Wednesday, 2016-01-27

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mesterySam-I-Am: Noticed one issue with https://review.openstack.org/272759, gave you a -1, but easy to fix14:49
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Sam-I-Ammestery: hmm... i didnt think there'd be a case where mtu was not passed in14:52
Sam-I-Amdidnt check what vagrant would do if it was missing from the yml file14:52
regXboirussellb: ping - right now under devstack ovs-vswitchd is logging to /var/log/openvswitch/ovs-vswitchd.log - do we really want that, or do we want it logging to /opt/stack/logs/...14:52
russellbregXboi: or is it /usr/local/var/log/openvswitch/...log ?14:53
Sam-I-AmregXboi: good question. its a system thing rather than an openstack thing.14:53
mesterySam-I-Am: Alternatively, defualt it to 1500.14:53
russellbin any case, for devstack, /opt/stack/logs makes sense i suppose14:53
Sam-I-Ammestery: the default is 1500 in the patch14:53
Sam-I-Amwell, in the yml14:53
regXboirussellb: according to the man page and the command line, it's going to /var/lib14:53
russellbregXboi: all of /opt/stack/logs gets saved via jenkins jobs right?14:53
mesterySam-I-Am: It's in the yaml file14:53
regXboilet me find a machine and confirmed14:53
russellbregXboi: ah, k, well doesn't matter14:53
regXboirussellb: I *THINK* so14:53
mesterySam-I-Am: See new comments14:54
Sam-I-Ammestery: ah ha14:55
regXboiwell, now I'm confused, because I see vswitchd running with --log-file but there isn't a logfile where the manpage implies14:56
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regXboiok, not confused anymore - this is writing to /usr/local/var/log/openvswitch14:59
regXboiyeah, we ought to change that :)14:59
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russellbregXboi: right14:59
russellbit's fine, unless we want to keep the logs14:59
russellbwhich we do14:59
russellbSO15:00
regXboiyep, updating things15:00
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regXboibut also, it looks like I've got an ovn-controller logging to the same dir under devstack, so time to figure out the why of that15:00
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regXboinow... isn't that interesting - right now ovn-controller is double logging15:06
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Sam-I-Ami'd argue thats better than not logging15:06
regXboiyeah, but interestingly, one log has slightly more accurate time stamps that the other, and well, that bothers me slightly15:07
regXboilike a whole frigging lot15:07
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Sam-I-Amthats... interesting15:10
Sam-I-Ami'm getting one step further in my quest for large mtus15:12
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regXboilet's test out this new plugin version *before* pushing it up :)15:14
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russellbregXboi: console + log file?15:22
russellbcommand line args can be used to turn one or the other off15:22
regXboirussellb: for ovn-controller yes, for ovn-northd no15:22
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regXboirussellb: testing out this version of the patch set (to see if it handles ovsdb-server and ovswitchd properly15:23
regXboinext version will go after that part of the headache15:23
regXboiand likely I'll mumble something about the console needing the same time resolution as the logs, because that millisecond loss makes a difference in what I'm chasing15:24
openstackgerritRyan Moats proposed openstack/networking-ovn: Make OVS related logs multi-stack friendly  https://review.openstack.org/27226515:31
regXboiugh - that has a mistake in it15:32
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openstackgerritRyan Moats proposed openstack/networking-ovn: Make OVS related logs multi-stack friendly  https://review.openstack.org/27226515:55
* regXboi headdesks15:55
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russellbregXboi: patch revisions cost 25 cents each16:07
russellbthere's a jar on the table over there16:07
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mesterylol16:10
* regXboi lobs a virtual roll of quarters into the jar to cover the next couple of weeks16:11
Sam-I-Amhmm, ovn-nbctl show is hanging in this vagrant controller16:11
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russellbSam-I-Am: i think it hangs if it can't connect to the db16:12
Sam-I-Amrussellb: thats what i suspect is happening16:12
russellb'tis a bug16:12
Sam-I-Amit should be a little more... vocal16:12
Sam-I-Ambut maybe the ip its looking for isnt correct or something16:12
Sam-I-Amovn seems to be working though16:13
regXboiand ...16:14
regXboiBOOM16:14
regXboiwell now, that.... sucks16:15
regXboioh16:16
regXboino it doesn't16:16
Sam-I-AmregXboi: in a ben stein voice?16:16
regXboiSam-I-Am: no, cristopher knights'16:16
russellbSam-I-Am: added that bug to my todo16:18
Sam-I-Amrussellb: thx16:23
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russellband we all know that everything that goes on a list gets done in a timely manner16:24
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* regXboi was glad he wasn't drinking something when he read that line16:24
russellbmestery: is it your birthday?!16:28
mesteryrussellb: Indeed, it is :P16:28
russellbHAPPY BIRTHDAY!16:28
russellb:)16:28
Sam-I-Ammestery: happy birthday!16:28
mesteryThanks folks :)16:28
regXboimestery: congrats and you can run, but you can't hide :)16:29
* regXboi asks who is bringing the virtual cake?16:29
mestery:)16:30
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openstackgerritRyan Moats proposed openstack/networking-ovn: Make OVS related logs multi-stack friendly  https://review.openstack.org/27226516:40
Sam-I-Amrussellb: this env has a separate ovndb server. on that server, i can run the ovn ctl commands. should those commands on the openstack controller node be able to point to the ovndb server and therefore work?16:45
Sam-I-Amit would be convenient if they worked16:45
russellbyou can run the commands remotely, but you have to add an argument that points the command to the db location16:46
regXboiwell... this is interesting... I give ovs-vswitchd a log file and it ... hangs?!?!16:48
Sam-I-Amcan it write to it?16:49
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regXboiSam-I-Am: it's root ...16:51
regXboibut it sure looks like it does16:52
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openstackgerritRyan Moats proposed openstack/networking-ovn: Make OVS related logs multi-stack friendly  https://review.openstack.org/27226516:59
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/networking-ovn: Make VM interface MTUs configurable  https://review.openstack.org/27275917:13
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Sam-I-Amrussellb: i see ovn-remote showing the correct ip, but ovn-nbctl doesn't work. does it read another variable?17:19
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Sam-I-Amrussellb: using --db works, but not sure how to set that permanently17:24
openstackgerritMatthew Kassawara proposed openstack/networking-ovn: Fix various networking bits  https://review.openstack.org/27316217:30
russellbSam-I-Am: can't set it permanently, have to supply it every time you run it17:40
openstackgerritMatthew Kassawara proposed openstack/networking-ovn: Fix various Vagrant networking bits  https://review.openstack.org/27316217:40
lrichardSam-I-Am: is the OVN_NB_DB environment variable set?17:40
russellbooh, i forgot about the env var ...17:40
Sam-I-Amlrichard: ooo that works17:41
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russellbSam-I-Am: that vagrant setup could drop that in .bashrc or something17:43
Sam-I-Amrussellb: thats what i'm thinking17:43
Sam-I-AmYet Moar Patchen17:43
russellbheh17:43
Sam-I-Amnow i'm trying to hack your localnet patches into it17:43
Sam-I-Ampretty sure my latest patch corrects some other issues, but i still cant ping the router gw on the provnet, so i'm going to try your patch17:45
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mesterySam-I-Am: I'm telling you, with Russell's patches, providernets worked just fine for me, so give it a shot :)17:51
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Sam-I-Ammestery: thats where i'm going next17:54
russellbSam-I-Am: are you trying to ping the ovn logical router IP from a VM on an OVN network?18:00
russellbor from elsewhere on the provider network?18:00
russellbit should work from a VM on an OVN network, pinging the logical router IP18:01
Sam-I-Amrussellb: from the controller node which has br-provider, and br-provider has an ip on it on the same network18:01
russellbi don't think it's going to work from outside right now18:01
russellbok, i don't think that's going to work18:02
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russellbfirst, i don't think it's going to respond to arp requests for that IP18:02
Sam-I-Amso if i booted a vm on the prov net, it should be able to ping .102 (the router's gw on the prov net)?18:03
Sam-I-Amright now i can ping .101, the dhcp server on the prov net, from the controller node18:03
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Sam-I-Ambut that's also in a namespace and not using the l3 stuffs18:03
russellbif you boot a VM on a private net (tenant network, OVN logical network), you should be able to ping the logical router's IP, the gw out of that network18:04
Sam-I-Amthe private side or provnet side?18:04
russellbprivate side18:04
Sam-I-Amok, but no routing to the prov net side of things?18:04
russellbprovider network side is incomplete in a few different ways18:05
Sam-I-Ameven with your patches?18:05
russellbcorrect18:05
Sam-I-Amdamn.18:05
russellbmy patches fix the case where you're exclusively using provider networks18:05
russellb(no overlays at all)18:05
russellbthe problems we have with the env you're shooting for18:05
russellb1) no NAT support (can work around that of course)18:05
russellb2) we won't respond to ARP requests on the provider net side18:06
Sam-I-Ami added a host route to the private net's cidr18:06
Sam-I-Amso that gets around nat18:06
russellb3) IP addressing ... the logical router exists on every hypervisor, but it only has one IP, so ... it can't really work18:06
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Sam-I-Amhmmm18:07
russellbif we follow DVRs example, we could add a central gw for the common case18:07
russellband then use floating IPs to let you direct traffic straight the appropriate hypervisor18:07
Sam-I-Amso... in theory, minus nat, what i'm trying to do *should* work, but just isnt ready yet.18:07
russellbright18:07
russellbit's an absolutely valid config (the most common ML2+OVS config right?)18:08
russellbbut OVN is just incomplete for that right now18:08
Sam-I-Amyep. thats what my latest vagrant patch achieves.18:08
Sam-I-Amall the neutron bits look correct now, and host-side stuff necessary to do things like tempest18:08
russellbit's closer to working for single node all-in-one setups heh18:08
russellbbut we still have some ARP patches missing18:08
russellb(there's some ben did, but they're not merged yet)18:08
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Sam-I-Amwhat i'm gleaning is i can't do mtu testing yet.18:09
Sam-I-Ambecause that requires going from a provider net to an overlay net18:09
russellbwell, not easily ...18:09
russellblet's see ...18:09
russellbif you go with a single-node devstack env18:09
russellband manually populate the arp cache18:09
russellbthen maybe?18:09
russellb:-/18:09
Sam-I-Amproblem is, things usually work in AIOs18:10
Sam-I-Ammestery: so with those patches, you were at least able to boot a vm on the provnet in a multi-node?18:14
mesterySam-I-Am: With those patches, I could ping everywhere in the provider networks, yes.18:14
mesteryGWs, outside the openstack environment, into the openstack environment from outside18:15
mesteryThe Vagrant should set that all up18:15
mesteryI have a Vagrant setup, I'll give it a try18:15
mesteryAfter my presentation :)18:15
Sam-I-Amhmm, russellb's telling me that shouldnt work :/18:15
russellbyou're talking about different things18:16
mesteryRight18:16
russellbSam-I-Am: mestery is talking about the equivalent of http://docs.openstack.org/liberty/networking-guide/scenario-provider-ovs.html18:16
Sam-I-Amrussellb: ahhhh, from within the vm18:17
mesteryYes18:17
Sam-I-Amok, that makes sense18:17
russellband i think you're trying to setup the equivalent of http://docs.openstack.org/liberty/networking-guide/scenario-classic-ovs.html18:17
Sam-I-Amrussellb: yeah, thats what i need for mtu testing18:17
russellbwhich obviously we need to support, but it's incomplete in a few different ways18:17
Sam-I-Amrussellb: *assuming* ovs-classic works in ovn, my recent patch to vagrant should enable all of that functionality from a host/neutron side.18:18
russellbawesome18:23
russellbyou're just ahead :)18:23
Sam-I-Amlol. for once!18:23
Sam-I-Amwe'll also need to fix up devstack to make it work too18:23
Sam-I-Amdisabling q-l3 prevents devstack from doing the usual neutron net bits18:24
russellbyeah it kind of magically works because of stuff that happens in q-l3 setup ...18:37
russellb"works"18:37
Sam-I-Amwell, yeah... using the conventional l3 agent18:41
Sam-I-Ambut that also works for the wrong reasons18:41
Sam-I-Amit shouldnt even work for non-ovn neutron18:42
Sam-I-Amrussellb: going to try the mailing list route for mtu stuff. do you recommend discuss or dev?18:45
russellbdiscuss i think18:46
russellbit's monitored by devs too18:46
Sam-I-Amaight.18:46
Sam-I-Amgoing to state the concern and see who says what18:46
Sam-I-Amsince i cant actually test it yet18:46
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openstackgerritRyan Moats proposed openstack/networking-ovn: Make OVS related logs multi-stack friendly  https://review.openstack.org/27226519:06
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regXboiwell jenkins finally +1'd the last patch revision, but man did I essentially gut it19:58
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/networking-ovn: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/27280320:17
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openstackgerritMatthew Kassawara proposed openstack/networking-ovn: [vagrant] Enable OVN commands to use a remote DB  https://review.openstack.org/27322720:30
russellbSam-I-Am: nit, convention for commit message subject is usually "area: overview" instead of "[area] overview"20:38
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Sam-I-Amrussellb: oh, docs uses [area]20:40
Sam-I-Amlive and learn20:41
russellbah20:41
russellbeverywhere else uses foo: bar20:41
russellband by everywhere i mean in my view of the world, which is obviously a small subset of everywhere20:41
Sam-I-Ami'll use curly braces next time :)20:43
russellbperfect20:46
russellbregXboi: feedback posted on your logging patch20:53
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regXboirussellb: ack - will read later20:58
regXboidoh20:59
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regXboirussellb: one thing to note is the difference in the timestamps between the two logs (console and log file)21:00
regXboiit would be *really* useful if the console also logged time to milliseconds21:00
regXboi:)21:00
russellbthat's configurable21:00
regXboivia args or via the config file?21:01
regXboiif it's via args, we can add them to this PS21:01
russellb$ ovs-appctl -t ovn-controller vlog/list-pattern21:02
russellb         prefix                            format21:02
russellb         ------                            ------21:02
russellbSYSLOG   <%B> %D{%h %e %T} %E %A:          ovs|%05N|%c%T|%p|%m21:02
russellbCONSOLE  none                              %D{%Y-%m-%dT%H:%M:%SZ}|%05N|%c%T|%p|%m21:02
russellbFILE     none                              %D{%Y-%m-%dT%H:%M:%S.###Z}|%05N|%c%T|%p|%m21:02
russellb21:02
russellbsee "man ovs-appctl" for the syntax for using  "ovs-appctl -t ovn-controller vlog/set" to set a new format21:03
russellbit's not clear if you can do that using command line args21:03
russellbit looks like you can, but we don't have it properly reflected in help text / man page for ovn-controller21:04
regXboiok, but I can *still* put that in the PS :)21:04
russellb(feel free to file a bug on that and tag it with ovn-upstream)21:04
regXboiand I will21:04
russellbif you look at the man page for ovs-vswitchd ..21:05
russellbsee "--verbose=PATTERN:destination"21:05
regXboiok21:05
russellblooks like that would do it21:05
russellbif you can work out the right formatting21:05
regXboiyeah, that I can do :)21:05
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openstackgerritRamu Ramamurthy proposed openstack/networking-ovn: Add a dhcp acl to allow dhcp packets from client to server  https://review.openstack.org/27327222:55
openstackgerritRamu Ramamurthy proposed openstack/networking-ovn: Add a dhcp acl to allow dhcp-client to dhcp-server  https://review.openstack.org/27327223:00
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