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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/networking-ovn: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/202255 | 02:15 |
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| shettyg | apparently because there is a 'n-' in ovn-northd , devstack assumes that nova is enabled. | 04:25 |
| openstackgerrit | Gal Sagie proposed openstack/networking-ovn: Create Logical Router OVSDB API implementation https://review.openstack.org/199496 | 05:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/networking-ovn: Skip provider network tempest api tests for now https://review.openstack.org/202223 | 05:20 |
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| gsagie | anyone here? | 06:39 |
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| gsagie | hi arosen | 10:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/networking-ovn: Create Logical Router OVSDB API implementation https://review.openstack.org/199496 | 13:42 |
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| arosen | Gah I keep missing gsagie | 18:18 |
| russellb | arosen: west coast and Israel don't have a ton of TZ overlap I guess :) | 18:25 |
| russellb | US west coast that is | 18:26 |
| russellb | arosen: i just got the OVN side of provider networks ready to test :) | 18:26 |
| arosen | nice :) | 18:27 |
| arosen | just fixing up that patch set. Sorry that took so long. | 18:27 |
| russellb | no problem! huge patch (huge in terms of networking-ovn) | 18:27 |
| russellb | we might need a FAQ doc entry somewhere for "why not ML2?" | 18:28 |
| russellb | because i expect that over and over and over again | 18:28 |
| arosen | russellb: yea, i was hoping not to really open that can of beans again but I'm sure it will be opened several times more. | 18:29 |
| russellb | well no argument from me | 18:29 |
| arosen | I can work on a FAQ for why not ML2 though. | 18:29 |
| russellb | i just want to be able to respojnd with a link and not have to have the conversation every time | 18:29 |
| arosen | makes sense, good idea. | 18:29 |
| russellb | i usually say "i don't know, these guys say ML2 sucks, so whatever, fine with me" | 18:31 |
| russellb | :-p | 18:31 |
| shettyg | Trying to test docker | 18:33 |
| shettyg | in underlay mode. But devstack runs : openstack role list --os-url=http://10.33.75.122:5000/v3 --os-identity-api-version=3 --group c4e429314a754d5d88e75dbe806bcce7 --project 1bb8540952b54ea5b72903e5e0c4360f -c ID -f value | 18:33 |
| shettyg | So the '-f value' is wrong because it is invalid. | 18:33 |
| shettyg | Have any of you seen something like this? | 18:33 |
| russellb | i haven't seen that :-/ | 18:40 |
| shettyg | Do you guys install devstack on a VM? I am trying to figure out the correct workflow | 18:42 |
| shettyg | Looks like it is best to always start from scratch | 18:42 |
| shettyg | The only pain point of installing it on a VM for me is that there seems to be a problem using kvm. And VMs on top of it slow | 18:43 |
| shettyg | (i.e. without using kvm and using qemu emulator instead) | 18:43 |
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| arosen | shettyg: I don't use a vm though you have to be careful not to message up your env | 18:52 |
| arosen | shettyg: I still use the python-neutronclient. I haven't switched over to the openstackclient. | 18:53 |
| gsagie | arosen: you can assign bugs on me to align the unit tests and handle the security groups part | 18:53 |
| gsagie | will work on that after your patch merges | 18:53 |
| arosen | Hey gsagie sorry I've been missing your messages. | 18:53 |
| gsagie | arosen: np | 18:53 |
| arosen | gsagie: awesome sounds good! | 18:53 |
| arosen | that would be great | 18:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Aaron Rosen proposed openstack/networking-ovn: Convert plugin away from ML2 https://review.openstack.org/195326 | 18:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Russell Bryant proposed openstack/networking-ovn: Add new docs link to README. https://review.openstack.org/202753 | 19:14 |
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| *** russellb changes topic to "http://docs.openstack.org/developer/networking-ovn/ -=- OVN meeting Thursdays 1715 UTC #openvswitch" | 19:14 | |
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| mestery | arosen: Nice work on the core plugin, happy to see that land ... so says the guy who originally proposed it that way :D | 19:22 |
| mestery | arosen: Seriously, thanks for doing that! | 19:22 |
| russellb | mestery: heh you sound bitter | 19:23 |
| russellb | it *was* less code to get to a working start :) | 19:23 |
| mestery | russellb: Nope, not at all | 19:23 |
| mestery | Just happy to see someone just get it done :) | 19:24 |
| * russellb nods | 19:24 | |
| mestery | I was surprised at the fight by that a few months back to be honest | 19:24 |
| * mestery shrugges | 19:24 | |
| russellb | i didn't mean to fight | 19:24 |
| russellb | i honestly don't care, i just want to understand | 19:24 |
| russellb | because from a more general project perspective, i think it's far from obvious what people should be trying to do | 19:24 |
| russellb | and i think there's a lot of tip toeing around | 19:25 |
| russellb | and if ml2 just sucks, people should say that more clearly | 19:25 |
| russellb | most of the "fight" i think was people who are just confused and thought everyone was supposed to be using ml2 | 19:26 |
| russellb | anyway, my perspective at least | 19:26 |
| mestery | :) | 19:26 |
| mestery | I think fight was too strong a word | 19:27 |
| mestery | I always appreciate your feedback russellb :) | 19:27 |
| mestery | It was the folks not involved who were shocked at picking a core plugin vs. ml2 that was surprising | 19:27 |
| * mestery shrugges again | 19:27 | |
| russellb | right that's what i'm saying, everyone assumes ml2 is the thing everyone should be writing against | 19:33 |
| russellb | so they're all like "WOAH WAIT i'm using ML2, i thought i was supposed to, did something change?" | 19:34 |
| russellb | PANIC | 19:34 |
| mestery | Ah, got it! I missed that point being too deep into things :) | 19:36 |
| mestery | Good perspective russellb! | 19:36 |
| russellb | soooo close to working provider networks on the ovn side ... | 19:41 |
| arosen | mestery: if you want you could write the "OVN why ML2 FAQ" entry in the ovn docs section :) | 19:45 |
| mestery | arosen: good idea | 19:45 |
| arosen | it was russells idea, i was just punting it to you since you wanted ml2 first :P | 19:46 |
| russellb | ++ | 19:50 |
| russellb | mestery: i want a link for when people ask :) | 19:50 |
| russellb | btw all ... networking-ovn docs moved to http://docs.openstack.org/developer/networking-ovn/ from readthedocs.org | 19:51 |
| russellb | not sure where all we put that old url | 19:51 |
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| russellb | progress on ovn provider network support: http://openvswitch.org/pipermail/dev/2015-July/057630.html | 22:08 |
| russellb | salv-orlando: fyi ^ since we exchanged several mails about that | 22:09 |
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| salv-orlando | russellb: seen that. I will look at it in the morning | 22:18 |
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