| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/monasca-common master: Add description-file field to setup.cfg https://review.openstack.org/623175 | 01:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Adrian Czarnecki proposed openstack/monasca-ui master: Add python3.5 classifier https://review.openstack.org/624696 | 09:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | Adrian Czarnecki proposed openstack/monasca-api master: Add python3.5 classifier to setup.cfg https://review.openstack.org/624661 | 09:45 |
| openstackgerrit | Adrian Czarnecki proposed openstack/monasca-common master: Add missing build dependencies for agent in docker https://review.openstack.org/620606 | 09:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | Adrian Czarnecki proposed openstack/monasca-events-api master: Reconfigure tempest configuration https://review.openstack.org/622940 | 12:21 |
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| witek | Courtesy Monasca meeting reminder in #openstack-monasca: witek, jayahn,iurygregory,ezpz,igorn,haad,sc,joadavis, akiraY,tobiajo,dougsz_,fouadben, amofakhar, aagate, haruki,kaiokmo,pandiyan,charana,guilhermesp,chaconpiza | 15:00 |
| joadavis | good morning | 15:00 |
| witek | #startmeeting monasca | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Dec 19 15:00:39 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is witek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'monasca' | 15:00 |
| witek | hi joadavis | 15:01 |
| witek | today the first time in #openstack-monasca | 15:02 |
| joadavis | =-O | 15:03 |
| witek | just posted a short reminder in the old channel | 15:03 |
| witek | agenda for today: | 15:03 |
| witek | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/monasca-team-meeting-agenda | 15:03 |
| dougsz | hey all | 15:03 |
| witek | hi dougsz | 15:04 |
| witek | #topic Vitrage integration | 15:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Vitrage integration (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:04 | |
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| witek | we had some discussion with Ifat and Joseph about the integration with Vitrage | 15:04 |
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| witek | and how the monitored resources (or alarms) should be identified in Vitrage | 15:05 |
| witek | here the email list discussion: | 15:05 |
| witek | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2018-December/000806.html | 15:05 |
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| joadavis | I didn't reply to his last email, but have been trying to dig up any alarm details that may be helpful. I haven't explored the topic deeply before | 15:06 |
| joadavis | I think what he proposed is on the right track | 15:06 |
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| joadavis | as I understand it, metrics from vms and metrics from hosts have different metric names, which may help | 15:07 |
| witek | in the change from Bartosz (POC from Berlin) he uses custom dimensions: resource_type and resource_id | 15:08 |
| witek | do you think we could use such schema for all metrics? | 15:08 |
| joadavis | some metrics have the resource_id already, but I don't think any have type | 15:08 |
| joadavis | I think you could infer the type from the metric itself | 15:09 |
| witek | most of the checks have the possibility to configure own `custom` dimensions per check instance | 15:09 |
| witek | but that's e.g. not the case for libvirt | 15:10 |
| joadavis | Is there a resource_type in vitrage they are trying to match with? | 15:11 |
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| witek | let me check their docu | 15:11 |
| witek | https://docs.openstack.org/vitrage/latest/contributor/vitrage-template-format.html | 15:12 |
| witek | they define entity type, but I guess it's not what is meant | 15:13 |
| witek | as resource_type I understand e.g: node, instance, disc, interface | 15:13 |
| joadavis | that is the impression I got too. That it would be used to differentiate hosts from vms, etc | 15:14 |
| witek | OK, and how should we treat e.g http_check? | 15:15 |
| witek | that's pretty generic | 15:15 |
| joadavis | true, good point. That is probably most generic | 15:16 |
| witek | I think it's difficult to create a global mapping for metric of that type | 15:16 |
| witek | similarly process | 15:18 |
| joadavis | http_alive_status does have service field. For a vm it adds component and resource_id, but for a host those fields are missing | 15:18 |
| joadavis | do you think we could add a resource_type to all metrics? it might be useful, just don't know how much work that would be | 15:19 |
| joadavis | not sure how we would define a resource_id for a process, as it is not an OpenStack resource in all cases | 15:20 |
| joadavis | Similar questions come up for aggregated metrics. If the metric used to trigger the alarm is aggregated across all VMs, then we don't have a resource_id | 15:21 |
| joadavis | That might be a use case we should discuss with them | 15:23 |
| witek | I have joined the self-healing meeting today morning (EU time) | 15:23 |
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| witek | and we had a longer discussion with Ifat | 15:23 |
| joadavis | cool | 15:23 |
| witek | she wants to propose a spec and start to define use cases we should cover | 15:24 |
| joadavis | That sounds like a good idea. A starting set of use cases could keep us from digging too deep | 15:24 |
| witek | there is another self-heeling meeting today in 2 hours, I guess | 15:25 |
| witek | I have to think over this mapping thing, still don't have a clear picture on it | 15:25 |
| witek | here the logs from today's meeting: | 15:26 |
| witek | http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/self_healing/2018/self_healing.2018-12-19-09.02.log.html | 15:26 |
| joadavis | thanks | 15:26 |
| joadavis | If nothing comes up, I may join in at 9am PST | 15:27 |
| witek | thanks, I'm not sure myself yet | 15:27 |
| witek | should we move on? | 15:27 |
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| joadavis | Speaking of SIGs, have you seen anything about the auto-scaling sig starting meetings? | 15:28 |
| witek | no | 15:28 |
| joadavis | I think it has been quiet for a week | 15:28 |
| joadavis | I don't think it needs meetings yet, but I would like to start contributing to their use cases too | 15:28 |
| joadavis | yes, next topic. :) | 15:29 |
| witek | yes, we could publish our documentation there | 15:29 |
| witek | #topic spaces in dimension names | 15:29 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "spaces in dimension names (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:29 | |
| joadavis | yes, I saw Matthias' comments on the bug this morning | 15:30 |
| joadavis | I think it may be an acceptable workaround, but will check with the team and let support comment | 15:30 |
| witek | so, the reported case is about deployment using collecting libvirt metrics | 15:30 |
| witek | the dimensions zone and tenant_name are set by the plugin | 15:31 |
| witek | and include spaces | 15:31 |
| witek | are in general dimensions values with spaces something we should support? | 15:31 |
| joadavis | fair question | 15:33 |
| joadavis | looking at the designs and documentation, I think there was an assumption that fields like zone and tenant_name would be unique identifiers and not long descriptions | 15:33 |
| joadavis | unique, human parsable identifiers. :) | 15:33 |
| witek | apparently API accepts it and it's not explicitly forbidden in the API ref | 15:34 |
| joadavis | I'm not sure how in this case someone set values iwth spaces without causing trouble at the cli or api, but you are right that it appears it accepted it | 15:34 |
| joadavis | in general, it does seem like we want dimensions to be flexible and there may be other fields that we would want to support spaces in | 15:35 |
| joadavis | I haven't looked in to the persister code for influxdb. How hard would it be to add escaping or something to support spaces? | 15:35 |
| witek | could you check if Cassandra persister supports it? | 15:35 |
| joadavis | I asked the team, but I don't think James is online yet. :) | 15:36 |
| witek | InfluxDB has syntax for this, should not be very difficult | 15:36 |
| joadavis | I'll follow up witg them today | 15:36 |
| witek | the problem is more our matrix Python/Java + InfluxDB/Cassandra | 15:37 |
| witek | thanks joadavis | 15:37 |
| joadavis | yes, I was surprised it was a problem for influx | 15:37 |
| witek | OK, let's follow up on this after holidays | 15:38 |
| joadavis | will do | 15:38 |
| witek | #topic events listener | 15:38 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "events listener (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 15:38 | |
| witek | dougsz has added small comments | 15:39 |
| joadavis | Spec looks approved, though Doug had a couple good nits. I think we can merge and I'll do a quick follow-up to fix the nits | 15:39 |
| joadavis | unless you want me to fix it first. :) | 15:39 |
| witek | OK, let's do this | 15:39 |
| witek | it's up to you :) | 15:39 |
| dougsz | Sounds good to me | 15:39 |
| witek | just gave W+1 | 15:40 |
| joadavis | thanks | 15:40 |
| witek | :) | 15:40 |
| witek | great job, thanks joadavis and Ashwin | 15:40 |
| dougsz | yep, thanks guys, will be a really nice feature | 15:41 |
| witek | thanks dougsz for constructive remarks and discussion | 15:41 |
| dougsz | I certainly didn't do any of the hard work :) | 15:42 |
| joadavis | I was finally watching the RH presentation on monitoring with Prometheus from Berlin summit. It is interesting when they come to some of the same conclusions, and have a similar event listener component. :) | 15:42 |
| witek | :) | 15:42 |
| witek | getting back to this presentation, I think we could also consider adding support for collectd | 15:43 |
| joadavis | I've been pondering what a good solution for container monitoring will be. collectd may be a good choice | 15:44 |
| dougsz | cadvisor is also a nice one for containers | 15:44 |
| joadavis | I'm still slightly clueless though. :) | 15:44 |
| joadavis | yes... was it ceilometer that was using cAdvisor? | 15:45 |
| dougsz | hmm, pass | 15:45 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/monasca-specs master: Monasca Events Publishing Spec https://review.openstack.org/583803 | 15:46 |
| dougsz | witek: we would have a Monasca Agent plugin to harvest collectd metrics? | 15:46 |
| dougsz | Or were you thinking about something that submits them directly to the API? | 15:47 |
| witek | I rather thought about monasca plugin for collectd | 15:47 |
| dougsz | Ah, I see. | 15:47 |
| witek | I think it's main advantage is that it's lightweight and performant | 15:47 |
| joadavis | I'm all for light weight. on of the reoccurring concerns when deploying monasca is that it is too heavy | 15:48 |
| dougsz | And here we are talking about adding Events support to it :) | 15:48 |
| witek | :) | 15:48 |
| dougsz | At least it is modular though, so the collector can always be turned off in favour of collect or something. | 15:49 |
| dougsz | The statsd part is actually very useful to us. | 15:49 |
| joadavis | modular is a good thing | 15:49 |
| dougsz | +1 | 15:49 |
| witek | if we don't have anything else for today, I would like to wish you Merry Christmas | 15:51 |
| witek | and have a good start in the new year! | 15:51 |
| joadavis | It may be worth defining a 'monasca light stack' for smaller deployments. | 15:51 |
| joadavis | Merry Christmas! | 15:51 |
| dougsz | Thanks, Merry Christmas to you all too | 15:51 |
| dougsz | Hope you get some quality time off... | 15:52 |
| joadavis | I'm looking forward to time with the kids | 15:52 |
| joadavis | I need to line up some interactive science experiments with them. :) | 15:53 |
| witek | tomorrow we have a new additional meeting in the morning | 15:54 |
| witek | and then a break until Jan, 2nd | 15:54 |
| witek | thank you guys and bye bye | 15:54 |
| witek | #endmeeting | 15:55 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Monitoring as a Service | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Monasca" | 15:55 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Dec 19 15:55:06 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:55 |
| dougsz | Thanks all, until next year.. | 15:55 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2018/monasca.2018-12-19-15.00.html | 15:55 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2018/monasca.2018-12-19-15.00.txt | 15:55 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2018/monasca.2018-12-19-15.00.log.html | 15:55 |
| joadavis | Tschuss | 15:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joseph Davis proposed openstack/monasca-specs master: Fix a few nits in events-listener spec https://review.openstack.org/626362 | 16:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/monasca-specs master: Fix a few nits in events-listener spec https://review.openstack.org/626362 | 17:21 |
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