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rakhmerov | hi all | 08:01 |
rakhmerov | anyone for the meeting here? | 08:01 |
vgvoleg | hi! | 08:01 |
rakhmerov | anything to discuss? | 08:01 |
rakhmerov | vgvoleg: hi! | 08:01 |
rakhmerov | vgvoleg: how's it going? | 08:02 |
vgvoleg | so so | 08:02 |
rakhmerov | any topics to discuss? | 08:03 |
rakhmerov | if no, I won't start a meeting :) | 08:03 |
vgvoleg | I'd like to discuss documentation | 08:04 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/mistral master: Update api-ref location https://review.opendev.org/673595 | 08:04 |
rakhmerov | #startmeeting Mistral | 08:04 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Jul 31 08:04:33 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rakhmerov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:04 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 08:04 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Mistral)" | 08:04 | |
rakhmerov | vgvoleg: go ahead | 08:04 |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'mistral' | 08:04 |
vgvoleg | I am not sure where I should write notifications docs | 08:05 |
vgvoleg | Main features? | 08:06 |
rakhmerov | aaah.. let me think | 08:06 |
rakhmerov | so | 08:06 |
rakhmerov | I'd say "yes" but I'd suggest to have a separate page about it for now and insert only a link into "Main features" | 08:07 |
rakhmerov | because the current structure is doc is ugly | 08:07 |
rakhmerov | I don't like it | 08:07 |
vgvoleg | Also, there is a huge gap between what exists in mistral and what is described in the documentation | 08:07 |
rakhmerov | and we have plans to restructure it completely soon | 08:07 |
vgvoleg | where can I read this plans?) | 08:08 |
rakhmerov | I'm telling you :) It's mostly in our heads now | 08:08 |
rakhmerov | we also have some tickets but it's hard to describe everything that needs to be done in a ticket | 08:08 |
rakhmerov | it's a creative process | 08:08 |
rakhmerov | vgvoleg: Oleg, please either fix those mismatches or file tickets | 08:09 |
rakhmerov | I'd ask others to do it as well | 08:09 |
rakhmerov | we need to be tracking it somehow | 08:09 |
vgvoleg | I'd like to help, otherwise I will continue to support our internal docs, which is sad :D | 08:09 |
rakhmerov | no-no | 08:09 |
rakhmerov | it's counter-productive | 08:09 |
rakhmerov | we work on a community project | 08:10 |
rakhmerov | let's make it better | 08:10 |
rakhmerov | we have all freedom | 08:10 |
vgvoleg | I don't like to support our internal docs for sure :D | 08:10 |
rakhmerov | :) | 08:11 |
vgvoleg | what else we can do instead of one-page features description? | 08:11 |
rakhmerov | feel free to fix gaps | 08:11 |
rakhmerov | for now w/o changing the structure too much | 08:11 |
vgvoleg | because I am not sure if this a good idea or not | 08:11 |
rakhmerov | I recommend to create a separate page just as a temporary approach | 08:12 |
rakhmerov | because you're right, it's not clear now where to best add it | 08:13 |
rakhmerov | the structure is bad | 08:13 |
rakhmerov | so I think we need to create it somewhere (not too important for now where exactly) and then we'll find a better place for it | 08:13 |
rakhmerov | makes sense? | 08:13 |
vgvoleg | I think the perfect way is to implement good table of contents and to have one page per feature | 08:15 |
rakhmerov | sure | 08:15 |
rakhmerov | yes | 08:15 |
rakhmerov | anything else? :) | 08:17 |
rakhmerov | I'm investigating one simple (as I think) bug for now and then go back to improving scheduler | 08:18 |
vgvoleg | I dont have anything else | 08:19 |
rakhmerov | ok | 08:20 |
rakhmerov | let's finish then | 08:20 |
vgvoleg | oh | 08:20 |
rakhmerov | thanks vgvoleg | 08:20 |
vgvoleg | wait | 08:20 |
rakhmerov | yep | 08:20 |
vgvoleg | Do we have any guides about resources limits/scale replicas to hit performance goals? | 08:21 |
vgvoleg | Just something about what new customers want to know before using mistral | 08:24 |
vgvoleg | something in terms of "tasks per second" or smth like that | 08:24 |
rakhmerov | second.. | 08:24 |
rakhmerov | vgvoleg: no | 08:25 |
rakhmerov | I'll tell you more, those properties change from cycle to cycle | 08:25 |
rakhmerov | towards being better, of course | 08:25 |
vgvoleg | sad | 08:27 |
rakhmerov | priorities, resources, as usual | 08:27 |
rakhmerov | we've been focus to make it better so far | 08:27 |
rakhmerov | you can work on such a guide btw :) You're experience enough already ;) | 08:28 |
rakhmerov | experienced | 08:28 |
vgvoleg | yes | 08:28 |
vgvoleg | i'll try | 08:28 |
vgvoleg | just with std.noop | 08:28 |
vgvoleg | without action overhead | 08:30 |
rakhmerov | yep | 08:30 |
rakhmerov | I can help you, of course | 08:30 |
rakhmerov | keep in mind that benchmarking is trickier than it seems at first look | 08:31 |
rakhmerov | you may want to read how good benchmarks are done | 08:31 |
rakhmerov | ok, let's close the meeting for now | 08:33 |
rakhmerov | #endmeeting | 08:33 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Mistral the Workflow Service for OpenStack. https://docs.openstack.org/mistral/latest/" | 08:33 | |
openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jul 31 08:33:26 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 08:33 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2019/mistral.2019-07-31-08.04.html | 08:33 |
rakhmerov | we're around anyway | 08:33 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2019/mistral.2019-07-31-08.04.txt | 08:33 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2019/mistral.2019-07-31-08.04.log.html | 08:33 |
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vgvoleg | Do you guys use namespaces? | 13:05 |
vgvoleg | I've found that we can't create two workflows with same names but different namespaces | 13:06 |
vgvoleg | I'm not sure if it mistral problem or postgres | 13:06 |
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vgvoleg | If it works with mysql please let my know | 13:06 |
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