Wednesday, 2019-07-31

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openstackgerritMerged openstack/mistral master: Rename the test class so it will be PyCharm friendly  https://review.opendev.org/67354405:48
openstackgerritMerged openstack/mistral master: When installing devstack enable the bash completion  https://review.opendev.org/67191406:27
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-mistralclient master: Rename the test class so it will be PyCharm friendly  https://review.opendev.org/67354106:48
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rakhmerovhi all08:01
rakhmerovanyone for the meeting here?08:01
vgvoleghi!08:01
rakhmerovanything to discuss?08:01
rakhmerovvgvoleg: hi!08:01
rakhmerovvgvoleg: how's it going?08:02
vgvolegso so08:02
rakhmerovany topics to discuss?08:03
rakhmerovif no, I won't start a meeting :)08:03
vgvolegI'd like to discuss documentation08:04
openstackgerritMerged openstack/mistral master: Update api-ref location  https://review.opendev.org/67359508:04
rakhmerov#startmeeting Mistral08:04
openstackMeeting started Wed Jul 31 08:04:33 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is rakhmerov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.08:04
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.08:04
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Mistral)"08:04
rakhmerovvgvoleg: go ahead08:04
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'mistral'08:04
vgvolegI am not sure where I should write notifications docs08:05
vgvolegMain features?08:06
rakhmerovaaah.. let me think08:06
rakhmerovso08:06
rakhmerovI'd say "yes" but I'd suggest to have a separate page about it for now and insert only a link into "Main features"08:07
rakhmerovbecause the current structure is doc is ugly08:07
rakhmerovI don't like it08:07
vgvolegAlso, there is a huge gap between what exists in mistral and what is described in the documentation08:07
rakhmerovand we have plans to restructure it completely soon08:07
vgvolegwhere can I read this plans?)08:08
rakhmerovI'm telling you :) It's mostly in our heads now08:08
rakhmerovwe also have some tickets but it's hard to describe everything that needs to be done in a ticket08:08
rakhmerovit's a creative process08:08
rakhmerovvgvoleg: Oleg, please either fix those mismatches or file tickets08:09
rakhmerovI'd ask others to do it as well08:09
rakhmerovwe need to be tracking it somehow08:09
vgvolegI'd like to help, otherwise I will continue to support our internal docs, which is sad :D08:09
rakhmerovno-no08:09
rakhmerovit's counter-productive08:09
rakhmerovwe work on a community project08:10
rakhmerovlet's make it better08:10
rakhmerovwe have all freedom08:10
vgvolegI don't like to support our internal docs for sure :D08:10
rakhmerov:)08:11
vgvolegwhat else we can do instead of one-page features description?08:11
rakhmerovfeel free to fix gaps08:11
rakhmerovfor now w/o changing the structure too much08:11
vgvolegbecause I am not sure if this a good idea or not08:11
rakhmerovI recommend to create a separate page just as a temporary approach08:12
rakhmerovbecause you're right, it's not clear now where to best add it08:13
rakhmerovthe structure is bad08:13
rakhmerovso I think we need to create it somewhere (not too important for now where exactly) and then we'll find a better place for it08:13
rakhmerovmakes sense?08:13
vgvolegI think the perfect way is to implement good table of contents and to have one page per feature08:15
rakhmerovsure08:15
rakhmerovyes08:15
rakhmerovanything else? :)08:17
rakhmerovI'm investigating one simple (as I think) bug for now and then go back to improving scheduler08:18
vgvolegI dont have anything else08:19
rakhmerovok08:20
rakhmerovlet's finish then08:20
vgvolegoh08:20
rakhmerovthanks vgvoleg08:20
vgvolegwait08:20
rakhmerovyep08:20
vgvolegDo we have any guides about resources limits/scale replicas to hit performance goals?08:21
vgvolegJust something about what new customers want to know before using mistral08:24
vgvolegsomething in terms of "tasks per second" or smth like that08:24
rakhmerovsecond..08:24
rakhmerovvgvoleg: no08:25
rakhmerovI'll tell you more, those properties change from cycle to cycle08:25
rakhmerovtowards being better, of course08:25
vgvolegsad08:27
rakhmerovpriorities, resources, as usual08:27
rakhmerovwe've been focus to make it better so far08:27
rakhmerovyou can work on such a guide btw :) You're experience enough already ;)08:28
rakhmerovexperienced08:28
vgvolegyes08:28
vgvolegi'll try08:28
vgvolegjust with std.noop08:28
vgvolegwithout action overhead08:30
rakhmerovyep08:30
rakhmerovI can help you, of course08:30
rakhmerovkeep in mind that benchmarking is trickier than it seems at first look08:31
rakhmerovyou may want to read how good benchmarks are done08:31
rakhmerovok, let's close the meeting for now08:33
rakhmerov#endmeeting08:33
*** openstack changes topic to "Mistral the Workflow Service for OpenStack. https://docs.openstack.org/mistral/latest/"08:33
openstackMeeting ended Wed Jul 31 08:33:26 2019 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)08:33
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2019/mistral.2019-07-31-08.04.html08:33
rakhmerovwe're around anyway08:33
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2019/mistral.2019-07-31-08.04.txt08:33
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2019/mistral.2019-07-31-08.04.log.html08:33
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vgvolegDo you guys use namespaces?13:05
vgvolegI've found that we can't create two workflows with same names but different namespaces13:06
vgvolegI'm not sure if it mistral problem or postgres13:06
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vgvolegIf it works with mysql please let my know13:06
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