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| harlowja | rakhmerov i did bring up https://review.openstack.org/#/c/229186/ in one of the oslo design sessions | 01:04 |
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| harlowja | i got pushback and was stated that the current pattern (of ack before processing) is what is going to stay, and even though this keeps on getting asked (to allow for ack after processing) it doesn't seem like certain folks want it :-/ | 01:05 |
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| rakhmerov | harlowja: aaaaaah... I was afraid something like that would happen | 03:30 |
| rakhmerov | harlowja: the only thing I don't understand is that people really need it | 03:31 |
| rakhmerov | what were their arguments against it? | 03:31 |
| xylan_kong | rakhmerov: are you here? | 03:33 |
| rakhmerov | xylan_kong: yes | 03:33 |
| xylan_kong | rakhmerov: sorry, i missed yesterday's meeting | 03:33 |
| rakhmerov | no problem, there wasn't probably anything interesting for you ) | 03:33 |
| rakhmerov | we were just summarizing what happened at the summit | 03:34 |
| rakhmerov | xylan_kong: how are you doing, sir? :) | 03:34 |
| xylan_kong | rakhmerov: i have applied resignation yesterday, so will be busy in coming days | 03:34 |
| xylan_kong | rakhmerov: no bad :-) | 03:34 |
| rakhmerov | ooh, really!? you did? | 03:34 |
| xylan_kong | rakhmerov: that's not a secret now | 03:34 |
| rakhmerov | ok, be brave my friend and you'll get your fame! :) | 03:35 |
| xylan_kong | thanks | 03:35 |
| rakhmerov | as far as the project workflow, please don't worry, solve your situation and come back | 03:37 |
| rakhmerov | ... project workload ... | 03:37 |
| rakhmerov | :) | 03:37 |
| xylan_kong | rakhmerov: no problem, i promise i will, and i will be always here, just don't have sufficient time in a period of time | 03:38 |
| rakhmerov | xylan_kong: got it, thanks | 03:38 |
| xylan_kong | for the oslo.messaging problem, i have my points. whether or not the ack is sent before or after processing, inconsistent issues are always be there. If it's sent before, then the processing may never occur or may crash at some time and we never get the result. On the other hand, if ack is sent after, if the process is crashed after its job, but it crashs | 03:46 |
| xylan_kong | just before ack is sent, you still don't get the result, but something is really happen. | 03:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/mistral-dashboard: executions overview screen: workflow link https://review.openstack.org/240181 | 03:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/mistral-dashboard: UI: Execution Overview screen refactored https://review.openstack.org/240252 | 03:47 |
| xylan_kong | so it's a little tricky to solve that problem totally and gracefully | 03:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/mistral: Filter is converted to list. https://review.openstack.org/240775 | 03:52 |
| harlowja | rakhmerov 'because its been mentioned before, this is the pattern oslo.messaging is suited for...' that was pretty much the reason i could extract (not much of a reason imho) | 03:55 |
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| rakhmerov | harlowja: yes, I know that but we discussed that with dhellmann as well in ML that we can provide config options if needed to solve it | 04:18 |
| rakhmerov | so that it's fully backwards compatible | 04:18 |
| rakhmerov | because it seems like we're just being ignored :) Not that I'm offended or something but it makes me feel confused | 04:19 |
| harlowja | agreed | 04:19 |
| harlowja | its weird | 04:19 |
| rakhmerov | ok, we'll keep fighting then? :) | 04:20 |
| harlowja | sureeeee | 04:20 |
| harlowja | if u guys want to take over https://review.openstack.org/#/c/229186 and try the config thing, then i can poke folks about it | 04:20 |
| rakhmerov | yes | 04:20 |
| harlowja | its not a huge change (as long as the change is right) | 04:21 |
| harlowja | +24, -7 | 04:21 |
| harlowja | :-P | 04:21 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/mistral-dashboard: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/241092 | 04:30 |
| openstackgerrit | hardik proposed openstack/mistral: Comparision opeartor has been changed. https://review.openstack.org/241097 | 04:53 |
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| rakhmerov | harlowja: yes, that's right ) | 05:09 |
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| _gryf | rakhmerov, regarding that patch… couple of weeks ago I've also had conversation with o.m guys about the ack-after-processing thing. Got the pushback aswell, but also some hints how we may overcome the problem. | 06:37 |
| _gryf | rakhmerov, one of the option mentioned was to implement own ack system outside of the o.m within the application (which is weird) | 06:38 |
| _gryf | rakhmerov, the other one was to persist the state of the working item in the database, so that it is possible to supervise the process from one of the services | 06:40 |
| _gryf | didn't had a chance to make a POC though | 06:40 |
| rakhmerov | hm... interesting | 06:57 |
| rakhmerov | yes | 06:57 |
| rakhmerov | _gryf: ok, the thing is that we kinda got an approval for implementing that inside o.m from a number of folks so I'm planning to get back to that discussion and push this change (in some form) into o.m | 06:58 |
| rakhmerov | otherwise, we already have a number of patches to address this problem w/o o.m | 06:58 |
| rakhmerov | we'll do it, if necessary | 06:58 |
| _gryf | rakhmerov, right - like the one, which doesn't use o.m at all | 06:58 |
| rakhmerov | we can even do it anyway in parallel, it won't harm anything | 06:58 |
| rakhmerov | yep | 06:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/mistral-dashboard: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/241092 | 08:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tomer Shtilman proposed openstack/mistral: Wrap sync_db opertaions in transactions https://review.openstack.org/240705 | 08:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Tomer Shtilman proposed openstack/mistral: Wrap sync_db operations in transactions https://review.openstack.org/240705 | 08:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Nikolay Mahotkin proposed openstack/mistral: Fixing wf execution creation at initial stage https://review.openstack.org/239638 | 09:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Gal Margalit proposed openstack/mistral-dashboard: UI: Task Overview screen refactored https://review.openstack.org/241194 | 12:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Gal Margalit proposed openstack/mistral-dashboard: UI: Task Overview screen refactored https://review.openstack.org/241194 | 13:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | hardik proposed openstack/mistral: Wrapper is used instead of direct json library. https://review.openstack.org/241248 | 15:31 |
| openstackgerrit | hardik proposed openstack/mistral: Wrapper is used instead of direct json library. https://review.openstack.org/241248 | 15:32 |
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