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| yasufum | hi, tacker team | 08:03 |
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| LiangLu | hi | 08:03 |
| manpreet | hi | 08:04 |
| ueha | Hi | 08:04 |
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| masazumi-ota | Hi | 08:04 |
| takahashi-tsc | Hi | 08:04 |
| yasufum | #startmeeting tacker | 08:04 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 19 08:04:56 2021 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is yasufum. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:04 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 08:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: tacker)" | 08:04 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tacker' | 08:05 |
| yasufum | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/tacker-meeting | 08:05 |
| yasufum | Thanks for suggesting topics for the meeting. | 08:06 |
| yasufum | Can we start from the first one? | 08:06 |
| yasufum | yoshito-ito: Are you joining? | 08:07 |
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| yasufum | seems he is not here... | 08:09 |
| yasufum | manpreet: can you start? | 08:09 |
| manpreet | yes, thanks. Please check L319 | 08:10 |
| yasufum | #topic attach-existing-volume | 08:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "attach-existing-volume (Meeting topic: tacker)" | 08:10 | |
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| yoshito-ito | sorry I'm late | 08:11 |
| manpreet | This is regarding adding FT for feature, I have added my queries in subsequent line L331 | 08:12 |
| manpreet | Seeking for help from team. | 08:13 |
| yasufum | I would like to clear your point. | 08:15 |
| yasufum | Is there any problem while trying to create a volume? | 08:15 |
| yasufum | Or, just asking how to do it? | 08:15 |
| manpreet | Yes, would like to know how to create volume ? As for testing purpose I have used cinder CLI, but as I have checked tacker functional testing code seems we are not using cinder client. | 08:17 |
| manpreet | Or there is any other way to achieve the same. Sorry for naïve queries. | 08:18 |
| yasufum | understand | 08:19 |
| yoshito-ito | I think you can refer https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/tacker/+/760231 for adding new tasks in FT. | 08:19 |
| yoshito-ito | Create a new ansible task to create a cinder volume with CLI, to get the volume ID, and to replace the ID with the ID in VNFD. | 08:20 |
| yasufum | yoshito-ito: manpreet just asking there are any examples for using cinder from FT code. | 08:21 |
| yasufum | And from my quick review, there is no examples in tacker currently. | 08:22 |
| yasufum | manpreet: I think you can find some examples from other than tacker, but I am not sure actually. | 08:24 |
| yasufum | Can we continue to discuss for implementation on gerrit? | 08:24 |
| yasufum | because it can be something detailed... | 08:25 |
| yoshito-ito | I'll put some notes for that on the etherpad. I agree that the implementation is too detailed to discuss here. | 08:26 |
| manpreet | Thanks yoshito-ito for suggestion will definitely look into it. Yes Yasufum we could discuss on gerrit, as I would work upon the suggestions. | 08:26 |
| yasufum | thanks | 08:26 |
| manpreet | Thanks for help guys :) | 08:27 |
| yasufum | Can we go to the first topic on our etherpad, yoshito-ito? | 08:28 |
| yoshito-ito | thanks | 08:28 |
| yasufum | #topic FT jobs for new features in W-release | 08:28 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "FT jobs for new features in W-release (Meeting topic: tacker)" | 08:28 | |
| yoshito-ito | As you know, we have some patches on Gerrit trying to add new FT jobs. | 08:29 |
| yoshito-ito | 1. (my patch) Spliting existing FT job to Legacy and SOL, and making them stable | 08:29 |
| yoshito-ito | 2. (from horie-san) Adding FT job for K8s-VIM | 08:30 |
| yoshito-ito | 3. (from takahashi-san) Adding FT job for separated NFVO | 08:30 |
| yoshito-ito | Because our Tacker FT job is now unstable and force us to "recheck" many times, I'd like you to review my patch first to fix it. | 08:31 |
| yoshito-ito | The changes are described in the commit massage of https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/tacker/+/770609 and the etherpad. | 08:32 |
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| yoshito-ito | So do you agree? or do you have any opinions for that? | 08:35 |
| masazumi-ota | I agree with you, partly because the FT exam time was also extended. | 08:37 |
| ueha | +1, It is very helpful to be free from repeated rechecks! | 08:37 |
| LiangLu | also +1, really helpful for me. | 08:38 |
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| takahashi-tsc | Agree, and I understand that my patch should be updated. I create new "functional_xxx" but "functional/xxx" seems better. | 08:40 |
| yasufum | I think so | 08:41 |
| yoshito-ito | Thank you. My patch is now under Zuul test due to the merge conflict with the patch enabling Ceilometer again. | 08:43 |
| yoshito-ito | It will end in hours. | 08:44 |
| yasufum | thank, please review and leave your comment, reviewers | 08:45 |
| yasufum | #topic slim-down-etherpad | 08:47 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "slim-down-etherpad (Meeting topic: tacker)" | 08:47 | |
| yasufum | As you may know, I have updated the contents of our etherpad sometimes, but still mess... | 08:48 |
| yasufum | So, I would like to suggest to move large topics to other pages. | 08:49 |
| yasufum | I have started from topics clearly take long time. | 08:50 |
| takahashi-tsc | Sorry but many of them is due to me... Do you mean make new page and move to it? And move large topics or old topics? In my opinion, to move old topics is also necessary. | 08:51 |
| yasufum | I would like to also ask to move your topic to another page if it can be large | 08:51 |
| yasufum | yes | 08:52 |
| yasufum | I roughly made a rule of URL as described in the etherpad, but not mandatory. | 08:53 |
| yasufum | Thanks for your help | 08:53 |
| takahashi-tsc | Thanks | 08:55 |
| yasufum | ueha: can we go to your topic? | 08:56 |
| ueha | I'm sorry just before, I added a topic to etherpad. | 08:56 |
| ueha | ok, thanks | 08:56 |
| yasufum | OK, please go ahead | 08:56 |
| yasufum | #topic Change size of instance_id of vnf table | 08:56 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Change size of instance_id of vnf table (Meeting topic: tacker)" | 08:56 | |
| ueha | I am trying to change the Type of instance_id in the vnf table with the following patch for CNF operation. | 08:56 |
| ueha | https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/tacker/+/768217 | 08:56 |
| ueha | mysql has a row limit [1] in each tables, and discusses what to set for the number of characters with yasufumi-san. | 08:57 |
| ueha | [1] https://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/8.0/en/column-count-limit.html | 08:58 |
| ueha | I think there are two ways: | 08:58 |
| ueha | The first one is to change it to String (12800) or lager, as we are currently discussed with yasufumi-san in the patch. | 08:59 |
| ueha | Secondly, considering the row limit, it is better to use Text in consideration of the future. | 08:59 |
| ueha | Which do you think is better? | 09:00 |
| ueha | yasufumi-san suggested before that it is better to change the size of the String than to make it text. | 09:02 |
| yasufum | I think you need to some more explanation about your change. | 09:05 |
| yasufum | also we do not have much time... | 09:05 |
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| yasufum | My point is I think no need to use TEXT type because it is enough remained String type. | 09:06 |
| yasufum | I doubt it can be such a large size as not enough for String. | 09:07 |
| yasufum | We need to have some limitations if you changes the type to TEXT, such as careless upper or lower | 09:09 |
| ueha | Thanks, I understand the concerns of making it text. | 09:10 |
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| ueha | Changing to String(12800), I think enough to store about 100 of k8s resource in instance_id. | 09:11 |
| yasufum | I do not still understand your concerns yet. Please continue to discuss. | 09:11 |
| yasufum | on gerrit | 09:11 |
| yasufum | thansk | 09:11 |
| ueha | OK, thanks | 09:12 |
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| yasufum | If you have no more comments or topics, I would like close. | 09:13 |
| LiangLu | sorry,could I have a small topic? | 09:13 |
| yasufum | sure | 09:13 |
| LiangLu | gathering for review on patch https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/tacker/+/764138 | 09:13 |
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| LiangLu | It is a small patch but need to be merged for k8s FT, so I would like to call team to have a review on it, | 09:14 |
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| LiangLu | Currently I added UT code for the patch as yasufum-san mentioned on gerrit, and no more further fix on it | 09:15 |
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| yasufum | OK. I did not find the test result turns green, sorry. | 09:16 |
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| LiangLu | Looking forward to your review! | 09:18 |
| LiangLu | and that is all for my topic :) | 09:18 |
| yasufum | thanks | 09:18 |
| yasufum | seems no more comments | 09:19 |
| yasufum | Thank you for today, bye! | 09:20 |
| takahashi-tsc | thanks, bye | 09:20 |
| yoshito-ito | bye! | 09:20 |
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| yasufum | #endmeeting | 09:20 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 09:20 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jan 19 09:20:58 2021 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 09:21 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2021/tacker.2021-01-19-08.04.html | 09:21 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2021/tacker.2021-01-19-08.04.txt | 09:21 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2021/tacker.2021-01-19-08.04.log.html | 09:21 |
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| ricolin | o/ | 15:01 |
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| ricolin | multi-arch SIG scheduled a meeting now, but I'm not start meeting as I have no topic for meeting | 15:02 |
| ricolin | let me know if anyone got topics or feel free to join #openstack-multi-arch | 15:03 |
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| oneswig | #startmeeting scientific-sig | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 19 21:00:23 2021 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is oneswig. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: scientific-sig)" | 21:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'scientific_sig' | 21:00 |
| oneswig | ahoy | 21:00 |
| martial | hello Stig :) | 21:01 |
| oneswig | Hey Martial! | 21:01 |
| oneswig | #chair martial | 21:01 |
| openstack | Current chairs: martial oneswig | 21:01 |
| oneswig | What's new? | 21:01 |
| martial | not much, microstack is fun for testing things :) | 21:02 |
| oneswig | This week we are having our twice-yearly company "design summit" - thrashing out lots of planning for R&D directions. An interesting week | 21:03 |
| martial | oh that is cool | 21:03 |
| oneswig | You get to do this stuff with a small firm :-) | 21:04 |
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| martial | welcome julian | 21:06 |
| julianp | Hi martial. Apologies for running late. | 21:06 |
| oneswig | Hi julianp | 21:07 |
| julianp | Hello oneswig. | 21:07 |
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| julianp | What's on the agenda for tonight? Apologies if it was already covered. | 21:08 |
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| oneswig | Sorry, I don't think one has been set, unless youhave something up your sleeve martial? :-) | 21:09 |
| jmlowe | Hi everybody | 21:09 |
| martial | well there is the ISC email? | 21:10 |
| oneswig | Hi jmlowe | 21:10 |
| martial | also SC21 just opened its CFP | 21:10 |
| jmlowe | That hasn't gone virtual yet has it? | 21:10 |
| martial | ISC is | 21:10 |
| oneswig | Saw the subjects, didn't read further. What's going on? | 21:10 |
| martial | SC ... not sure | 21:10 |
| jmlowe | I'm guessing it's going to be right on the edge of in person | 21:11 |
| martial | ISC: is virtual but our BoF from last year is on if we want it | 21:11 |
| martial | that's it :) | 21:13 |
| oneswig | I thought ISC didn't accept the BoF submission - did they, and then it got dropped in the confusion of going virtual? I've forgotten.. | 21:14 |
| martial | okay now I am confused too | 21:14 |
| martial | I though they offered us to do it remotely last year and then said they will automatically accept it for this year | 21:15 |
| oneswig | b1airo would know. | 21:15 |
| martial | I read "We are aiming to accommodate all the BoFs accepted for ISC 2020 to take place at ISC 2021 Digital. However, if your circumstances have changed and you cannot organize a BoF at ISC 2021 Digital, please let us know early via email." | 21:15 |
| martial | this seems to say that we are "digital" but we are there? | 21:16 |
| oneswig | It does indeed. | 21:17 |
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| martial | so there is that :) | 21:18 |
| martial | we ought to confirm the original list of participants and confirm everyone can attend again | 21:18 |
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| oneswig | looking now | 21:18 |
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| oneswig | Ah, it was the big one: Tim Randles, Martial Michel, Tim Bell, Sadaf Alam, DK Panda, Ildiko Vancsa, Blair & me | 21:21 |
| oneswig | That's a lot | 21:21 |
| oneswig | OK, got it - details from Blair: The news came through late last week that the ISC organising committee have decided to shelve the BoF programme this year as they think a virtual format will detract from the highly interactive goal of these sessions. But the good news is they think this year's BoF proposals will all be relevant next year too, and so are going to invite us to run it at ISC2021. I | 21:22 |
| oneswig | 'll assume, unless I hear otherwise, that you are all interested to participate. | 21:22 |
| oneswig | That was April last year | 21:23 |
| martial | well virtual is going to be interesting to say the least but I am game as always | 21:23 |
| oneswig | What was the SC news martial? Just that the CFP is open? | 21:26 |
| martial | yes, pretty much | 21:27 |
| martial | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/racXJSp5/ | 21:28 |
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| martial | jmlowe: doing another workshop at SC ? | 21:28 |
| jmlowe | probably, we are doing the SuperCompCloud for ISC | 21:29 |
| oneswig | Ooh, nice. | 21:29 |
| oneswig | jmlowe: will you attempt an HPL number on Jetstream2? | 21:30 |
| jmlowe | I don't see how we can skip that | 21:30 |
| jmlowe | I'm going to try for an IO500 submission as well, time permitting | 21:31 |
| jmlowe | Based on the timing HPL run would probably be submitted for SC'21 not ISC'21 | 21:31 |
| oneswig | Get on! Is that with CephFS? | 21:31 |
| jmlowe | yes | 21:31 |
| martial | nice :) | 21:32 |
| jmlowe | I'll fire up a native cephfs manila share and see what happens | 21:32 |
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| b1airo | oops, i got caught in another meeting | 21:35 |
| martial | It's okay, we gave you all the action items :) | 21:35 |
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| martial | #chair b1airo | 21:35 |
| openstack | Current chairs: b1airo martial oneswig | 21:35 |
| b1airo | :-o | 21:35 |
| oneswig | morning b1airo | 21:35 |
| martial | we were talking about ISC and SC | 21:36 |
| oneswig | We should discuss future agenda items - would be good to bring in some fresh ideas? | 21:36 |
| martial | (sorry have to excuse myself for a few minutes) | 21:39 |
| b1airo | function as a service everywhere? | 21:39 |
| oneswig | Is that project still going? Forgive my ignorance. | 21:41 |
| b1airo | which one? the globus thing, funcx? | 21:42 |
| oneswig | Not heard of that, was thinking of the OpenStack project | 21:42 |
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| b1airo | ah right, i can't remember there ever being anything in the tent that really addressed this | 21:44 |
| b1airo | oh yeah, Qinling | 21:44 |
| b1airo | https://github.com/openstack-archive/qinling - RETIRED | 21:45 |
| oneswig | What's the mechanism behind funcx? | 21:46 |
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| b1airo | it basically allows you to register containers (e.g. Singularity) and entry points as containers, there's an endpoint that you launch on your HPC that then connects to centrally managed Globus services. the API then allows you to run functions (containers) on endpoints (HPCs etc) directly through simple Python | 21:48 |
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| oneswig | Sounds a bit like Dask without the graph model? | 21:50 |
| b1airo | ya not an unreasonable comparison for sure, though aimed at different levels | 21:51 |
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| oneswig | b1airo: do you have users of funcx? | 21:51 |
| b1airo | we have an instrument data processing project in flight at the moment where we are kicking the tyres on it | 21:52 |
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| b1airo | my understanding from Kyle (Chard) is that it's still more a research project at the moment, but it's leveraging Globus Labs, so that makes it a more reliable prospect | 21:53 |
| oneswig | Does it provide anything for data access? Is it all S3 based? | 21:54 |
| b1airo | that project is already using Globus and its transfer APIs to do automated data movement, so being able to stay in the same API ecosystem to remotely launch/manage associated processing is nice | 21:54 |
| oneswig | Good to know, thanks. | 21:56 |
| b1airo | so we have instrument/s at org/uni producing data that needs post-processing. data gets captured into a repo locally, once it lands there either the repo triggers a Globus transfer to NeSI (or Globus just watches a folder on a managed endpoint), data arrives at NeSI, then we use Funcx to kick off the associated processing workloads (which in many cases can be standardised), outputs get Globus'd back to the | 21:57 |
| b1airo | original org/uni's Globus endpoint | 21:57 |
| b1airo | oneswig: was there a Ceph thing you wanted to discuss? | 21:58 |
| oneswig | Not sure. I had some hairy fun upgrading a cluster in place from CentOS7/Docker to CentOS8/Podman. The monitors on the CentOS8 side wouldn't join quorum with the existing monitors. Was that it? | 21:59 |
| oneswig | Or was it related to all-flash or all-hdd Ceph configurations? | 22:00 |
| b1airo | yeah the Slack convo - will continue it there seeing as appears to be only us here anyway :-) | 22:00 |
| b1airo | and we're at time | 22:00 |
| oneswig | Time at the bar anyway. | 22:00 |
| oneswig | OK, better close the meeting. Thanks all | 22:01 |
| oneswig | #endmeeting | 22:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jan 19 22:01:17 2021 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_sig/2021/scientific_sig.2021-01-19-21.00.html | 22:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_sig/2021/scientific_sig.2021-01-19-21.00.txt | 22:01 |
| martial | I wonder if you can demo this sometime Blair? | 22:01 |
| julianp | Bye! | 22:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_sig/2021/scientific_sig.2021-01-19-21.00.log.html | 22:01 |
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| martial | Bye | 22:01 |
| oneswig | Thanks guys until next time | 22:01 |
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