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| abhishekk | #startmeeting glance | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Dec 3 14:00:38 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is abhishekk. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'glance' | 14:00 |
| abhishekk | #topic roll call | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "roll call (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:00 | |
| abhishekk | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-team-meeting-agenda | 14:00 |
| abhishekk | o/ | 14:00 |
| Steap | o/ | 14:01 |
| jokke | o/ | 14:01 |
| abhishekk | looks like only 3 of us | 14:01 |
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| abhishekk | rosmaita, will might join late | 14:02 |
| abhishekk | Lets start | 14:02 |
| abhishekk | #topic release/periodic jobs update | 14:02 |
| rosmaita | 0/ | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "release/periodic jobs update (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:02 | |
| abhishekk | cool, he is here :D | 14:02 |
| abhishekk | we have released glance-store for milestone 1 | 14:03 |
| abhishekk | for glanceclient patch is up | 14:03 |
| abhishekk | and for glance I am waiting for Steap's patch to get merge | 14:03 |
| abhishekk | it is in merged conflict at the momemnt | 14:03 |
| * Steap checks | 14:03 | |
| abhishekk | I am planning to tag glance M1 on Monday around this time | 14:04 |
| abhishekk | Periodic jobs all green this week | 14:04 |
| abhishekk | First time we are not hitting timeouts during milestone releases \o/ | 14:04 |
| rosmaita | hang on with Steap's patch | 14:05 |
| rosmaita | i think the release note could use a revision | 14:05 |
| abhishekk | ack | 14:05 |
| jokke | nice | 14:05 |
| abhishekk | moving ahead | 14:06 |
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| abhishekk | #topic Milestone 1 priorities | 14:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Milestone 1 priorities (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:06 | |
| abhishekk | Important reviews | 14:06 |
| abhishekk | #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/glance/+/763920 | 14:07 |
| abhishekk | this is Steap's patch which we need to get merged before M1 | 14:07 |
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| abhishekk | Also we need changes/reforms in cluster awareness specs | 14:08 |
| abhishekk | and, Lite spec for task API for general user - Needs reviews | 14:08 |
| abhishekk | #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/glance-specs/+/763740 | 14:08 |
| abhishekk | Please review specs whenever you get time | 14:09 |
| abhishekk | we need to get them merged within next 2 weeks | 14:09 |
| abhishekk | moving to Open discussion | 14:09 |
| abhishekk | #topic Open discussion | 14:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:10 | |
| jokke | I will revisit the spec next week, Have hands full for today/tomorrow | 14:10 |
| abhishekk | jokke, ack | 14:10 |
| abhishekk | So I was testing properties protection using policies to find out impact for RBAC | 14:10 |
| abhishekk | First impression is we don't have enough document to guide users/operators to use property protection using policies | 14:11 |
| abhishekk | 2nd is property protection policies needs to be define in policy.yaml file (it don't recognize separate file at the moment) | 14:12 |
| rosmaita | that's weird ... it used to work with separate files | 14:12 |
| abhishekk | 3rd there are some low priority bugs which can raise 500 errors if there are any issues in configuration files | 14:13 |
| abhishekk | rosmaita, you might be confusing the same with property protection with roles | 14:13 |
| abhishekk | you can define property protection with roles in different conf file | 14:14 |
| jokke | rosmaita: I have feelin that it got messed up with move to yaml patch which rattled around the policy files and how they gets read | 14:14 |
| abhishekk | jokke, nope that's not the case | 14:14 |
| jokke | ohh ... just saw the above | 14:14 |
| rosmaita | i think abhishek is right | 14:14 |
| abhishekk | as far as I remember we never used policies for property protection and that is why there is no documentation to explain the same | 14:15 |
| abhishekk | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/property-protection-with-policies | 14:15 |
| rosmaita | rackspace used it in their public cloud | 14:15 |
| jokke | I think we did too, but can't remember | 14:15 |
| abhishekk | NTT also used but with roles | 14:15 |
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| abhishekk | I will submit documentation to explain property protection with policies | 14:17 |
| abhishekk | That's it from me for today | 14:19 |
| abhishekk | anything else, Steap, jokke, rosmaita | 14:19 |
| Steap | nah, I'm gonna fix my patch | 14:19 |
| jokke | quick one abut ^^ | 14:19 |
| Steap | rosmaita's patch introduced a conflict | 14:19 |
| rosmaita | Steap: ha! | 14:20 |
| Steap | First he steals my food, then he breaks my patches | 14:20 |
| smcginnis | :) | 14:20 |
| rosmaita | Steap: hang on a minute, i am making some suggestions for your release note. | 14:20 |
| Steap | rosmaita: ok | 14:20 |
| abhishekk | :D | 14:20 |
| rosmaita | i am still not sorry that i ate the last bowl of goulash | 14:20 |
| abhishekk | jokke, you were saying something? | 14:20 |
| jokke | So the owner_is_tenant, as it's security thingie, should we detect it in the config and refuse glance-api starting if it still configured to make sure anyone did not upgrade without reading renos etc. and get bitten by it | 14:21 |
| abhishekk | I think it will be ignored | 14:22 |
| jokke | Like I'm fully committed to get rid of it. Just want to play the change itself safe | 14:22 |
| rosmaita | what will happen is that nothing will work | 14:23 |
| jokke | abhishekk: currently, yes | 14:23 |
| jokke | rosmaita: exactly .. and there is no indication as of now, why | 14:23 |
| abhishekk | so you want to add upgrade check? | 14:23 |
| rosmaita | that is a good idea | 14:24 |
| abhishekk | s/want/suggesting | 14:24 |
| jokke | it will just start throwing 403s (I think) | 14:24 |
| abhishekk | please add comment so that Steap will get notification as well | 14:25 |
| rosmaita | take a look at this and see if we agree that it's a good way to announce this: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/glance/+/763920/5/releasenotes/notes/remove-owner_is_tenant-b30150def293effc.yaml#8 | 14:25 |
| jokke | I don't mind be it upgrade check or just 2loc check if it's still in config, exit and log that the service did not start because it's configured and won't work | 14:25 |
| rosmaita | it might be worth sending something to the ML saying that the option has been removed | 14:26 |
| rosmaita | as see if anyone screams | 14:26 |
| jokke | rosmaita: yeah, I have that reno open. Still commenting on it. | 14:26 |
| jokke | rosmaita: I think it's irrelevan it someone screams or not ;) Just lets make sure it's clear why world is broken if someone has ignored all the warnings until now ;P | 14:27 |
| abhishekk | I will send out mail | 14:27 |
| rosmaita | it's kind of a complicated db migration, you will have to have keystone available to do it | 14:27 |
| rosmaita | would have to look up the user_id in the 'owner' column, find out what project they are in, and then replace the value | 14:27 |
| rosmaita | but | 14:27 |
| rosmaita | i believe users can be in multiple projects | 14:28 |
| rosmaita | so it would be a mess | 14:28 |
| abhishekk | lot of | 14:28 |
| jokke | I think the "no migration path" is pretty clear and like said there is no easy way to do it. I'm not saying we shouldn't remove the config nor that we should postpone it for any reason | 14:29 |
| jokke | Just lets be clear why world is broken if you still have it in config | 14:29 |
| abhishekk | +1 | 14:29 |
| jokke | If it was just me glance-api would be logging something like "You fool, should have listened first time. Now ye're fecked" :P | 14:31 |
| abhishekk | lol | 14:31 |
| rosmaita | well, i think the problem with that is that oslo.config will give you a NoSuchOpt exception when you try to read it, if the option isn't defined (which it won't be, since Steap's patch removes it) | 14:32 |
| rosmaita | i think the upgrade check may be the way to go here | 14:32 |
| abhishekk | makes sense | 14:33 |
| rosmaita | i will take the action item to write an upgrade check for the 2 options we are removing | 14:34 |
| rosmaita | (unless someone else is itching to do it) | 14:34 |
| abhishekk | you are most welcome :D | 14:34 |
| jokke | So one option, which we have used before, is to reintroduce the config key under config.py with the hidden flag so it will not be added by configgen but we can access it and set it to like None so if it's set to True or False we know it was actually set in config | 14:34 |
| rosmaita | ok, that's good to know | 14:35 |
| abhishekk | In this case we also need to make a note to remove this after couple of cycles? | 14:36 |
| rosmaita | no, the upgrade check should continue to work fine if no one has the option | 14:36 |
| abhishekk | ack | 14:36 |
| jokke | abhishekk: or not ... can be just #TODO ... doesn't hurt have it hanging in there for longer, if someone needs easy quick patch to get started, that'd be good one :D | 14:37 |
| abhishekk | sounds good then | 14:37 |
| jokke | I can't remember what we used the hidden configs before so might be difficult to find the patch as example but I just remember we have done it somewhere like Juni, Kilo, Liberty range ;) | 14:37 |
| abhishekk | So I need to wait for upgrade check + Steap's patch before tagging M1 | 14:38 |
| rosmaita | i will look, i wasn't aware of that option | 14:38 |
| abhishekk | Yes, I remember that as well | 14:38 |
| rosmaita | i think the upgrade check can be a follow-up | 14:38 |
| rosmaita | i don't think anyone is going to upgrade to M-1 ! | 14:38 |
| abhishekk | :D | 14:38 |
| jokke | rosmaita: very true, and i'd just don't want to rely on that alone either as there is nothing guaranteeing that anyone runs those either | 14:39 |
| rosmaita | jokke: that's what i was going to ask | 14:39 |
| rosmaita | are you still in favor of the don't start if the option is there patch? | 14:39 |
| jokke | I would be yeah, that way it's super clear and can't be missed | 14:40 |
| jokke | It's even unlikely that no-one will hit that piece of code, yet if we do not write it, the likelyhood will increase exponentially :P | 14:41 |
| rosmaita | should we do that for M-2 or hold M-1 for it? | 14:41 |
| abhishekk | I don't think hide option is available now | 14:41 |
| rosmaita | ok that will complicate things | 14:42 |
| jokke | abhishekk: then, the easiest solution is to create hidden_config.py and not add that to the configgen config | 14:42 |
| rosmaita | i was thinking that i could define it only in the upgrade checker and not include it for configgen | 14:42 |
| rosmaita | ok what jokke said | 14:43 |
| abhishekk | whatever suits best | 14:43 |
| rosmaita | either that, or just use regular python (not oslo.config) to read the config file directly | 14:43 |
| jokke | rosmaita: just would need to import that hidden_config at the startup so oslo.config actually picks the defenition up, if it's just upgradecheck it won't, I think | 14:44 |
| rosmaita | jokke: right, i was just trying to figure out how i could do this in the upgrade check | 14:44 |
| abhishekk | Ok to be followup and not holding M1 for it | 14:44 |
| jokke | rosmaita: same way, import the hidden_config and check if the value is set, super simple | 14:45 |
| jokke | it should be literally like ~10 line addition to the current patch, 20 with the upgrade check (not sure how much boilerplating it needs) | 14:46 |
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| abhishekk | Let it be in a separate patch as we need upgrade check for 2 deprecated (removed) options | 14:47 |
| abhishekk | Anything else ? | 14:47 |
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| rosmaita | ok, i will work on the upgrade check and jokke can do the api part | 14:48 |
| rosmaita | we can resolve the location of removed_config.py once we have patches up | 14:48 |
| jokke | ++ | 14:49 |
| rosmaita | i must say, one nice thing about the new gerrit is having the project name in the gerrit url | 14:50 |
| abhishekk | yes | 14:50 |
| abhishekk | Lets wrap up | 14:51 |
| abhishekk | thank you all | 14:51 |
| jokke | thanks! | 14:52 |
| abhishekk | have a nice weekend | 14:52 |
| rosmaita | bye! | 14:52 |
| abhishekk | #endmeeting | 14:52 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 14:52 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Dec 3 14:52:25 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:52 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2020/glance.2020-12-03-14.00.html | 14:52 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2020/glance.2020-12-03-14.00.txt | 14:52 |
| smcginnis | Thanks abhishekk | 14:52 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2020/glance.2020-12-03-14.00.log.html | 14:52 |
| abhishekk | smcginnis, thank you | 14:52 |
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| gagehugo | #startmeeting security | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Dec 3 15:00:20 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gagehugo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: security)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'security' | 15:00 |
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| gagehugo | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/security-agenda agenda | 15:00 |
| gagehugo | o/ | 15:00 |
| fungi | ohai | 15:01 |
| gagehugo | #topic Dec meetings cancelled | 15:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Dec meetings cancelled (Meeting topic: security)" | 15:03 | |
| fungi | good idea | 15:04 |
| gagehugo | We will meet next week, but I'll be out after that | 15:04 |
| fungi | there likely won't be a ton going on anyway | 15:04 |
| gagehugo | So I was going to cancel the 17th, 24th, and 31st | 15:04 |
| fungi | project activity seems to slow significantly in december | 15:04 |
| gagehugo | as well as my brain activity | 15:05 |
| gagehugo | just slows down as the weather gets cold | 15:05 |
| gagehugo | #topic open discussion | 15:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: security)" | 15:06 | |
| gagehugo | fungi: do you have anything for this week? | 15:07 |
| fungi | when was our last meeting? | 15:07 |
| gagehugo | good question | 15:07 |
| fungi | trying to remember how far back to look for stuff which became public since then | 15:07 |
| gagehugo | Nov 12th | 15:07 |
| gagehugo | I've been out for the past 2 weeks | 15:07 |
| fungi | the answer seems to be "nothing" | 15:08 |
| gagehugo | that's easy | 15:08 |
| fungi | the tc did however confirm all official projects have completed a review of commits to their deliverable repositories for the worrisome couple of weeks during the gerrit breach | 15:09 |
| fungi | in related news, several of the opendev sysadmins have been experimenting with the two-factor auth beta feature in launchpad/ubuntuone sso | 15:10 |
| gagehugo | oh nice | 15:10 |
| fungi | we'll look at providing easy ways for our users to start enabling that soon too if they want it | 15:11 |
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| fungi | i got it working with a pair of purism "librem key" devices, i think some others have used yubikeys or otp phone apps | 15:12 |
| gagehugo | hmm ok | 15:12 |
| fungi | i don't think i have anything else of security interest to bring up right now, most of my time has been spent on gerrit upgrade work | 15:15 |
| gagehugo | ok | 15:15 |
| gagehugo | thanks fungi! Have a good rest of the week! | 15:16 |
| gagehugo | #endmeeting | 15:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 15:16 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Dec 3 15:16:14 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:16 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2020/security.2020-12-03-15.00.html | 15:16 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2020/security.2020-12-03-15.00.txt | 15:16 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2020/security.2020-12-03-15.00.log.html | 15:16 |
| fungi | thanks, you too gagehugo! | 15:16 |
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