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| abhishekk | #startmeeting glance | 14:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Oct 15 14:01:53 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is abhishekk. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'glance' | 14:01 |
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| abhishekk | #topic roll call | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "roll call (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:02 | |
| dansmith | o/ | 14:02 |
| jokke | o/ | 14:02 |
| abhishekk | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/glance-team-meeting-agenda | 14:02 |
| abhishekk | o/ | 14:02 |
| abhishekk | hello every one | 14:02 |
| abhishekk | short agenda today :D | 14:02 |
| rosmaita | o/ | 14:02 |
| abhishekk | Lets start | 14:02 |
| abhishekk | #topic Updates | 14:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Updates (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:03 | |
| abhishekk | Next week is summit and PTG is in following week | 14:03 |
| abhishekk | Glance is scheduled between Tuesday to Friday around 1400 UTC to 1700 UTC | 14:04 |
| abhishekk | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/Glance-Wallaby-PTG-planning | 14:04 |
| abhishekk | This is the planning etherpad | 14:04 |
| abhishekk | If you have anything in mind for discussion kindly add that in above etherpad | 14:05 |
| abhishekk | Also those who haven't registered yet, please register as well | 14:05 |
| abhishekk | Moving ahead | 14:06 |
| rosmaita | do you want to schedule line 98 along with cinder team as cross-project topic? | 14:06 |
| abhishekk | #topic release/periodic jobs update | 14:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "release/periodic jobs update (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:06 | |
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| abhishekk | rosmaita, that will be better | 14:06 |
| abhishekk | we can keep it on Friday or as per cinder team's availability | 14:07 |
| rosmaita | abhishekk: is wednesday good for that? | 14:07 |
| abhishekk | sounds good | 14:07 |
| abhishekk | Let me know the time slot as well | 14:07 |
| rosmaita | ok, will leave a note on the etherpad | 14:08 |
| abhishekk | cool, thank you | 14:08 |
| abhishekk | moving ahead | 14:08 |
| abhishekk | Victoria is released \o/ | 14:08 |
| abhishekk | Thank you all for your efforts and contribution | 14:09 |
| jokke | \\o \o/ o// o/7 | 14:09 |
| abhishekk | \o/ | 14:09 |
| abhishekk | W is ahead of us, and during PTG we will finalize the priorities for W cycle | 14:10 |
| abhishekk | Periodic jobs are also green \o/ | 14:10 |
| abhishekk | moving ahead | 14:11 |
| abhishekk | #topic Meetings next 2 weeks | 14:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Meetings next 2 weeks (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:11 | |
| abhishekk | As next two weeks will be busy in summit and PTG, should we have meeting next week? | 14:11 |
| abhishekk | or Should we cancel for both weeks | 14:12 |
| jokke | I think we should cancel as usual. we'll be staying in touch a lot specially during ptg | 14:12 |
| abhishekk | +1 | 14:12 |
| abhishekk | rosmaita, dansmith ? | 14:13 |
| dansmith | yep, cancel | 14:13 |
| abhishekk | cool, I will send out info on openstack-discuss ML about cancellation | 14:13 |
| rosmaita | i am obviously not paying attention | 14:13 |
| rosmaita | cancel works for me, too | 14:13 |
| abhishekk | :D | 14:13 |
| abhishekk | ack | 14:13 |
| abhishekk | Lets move to Open discussion | 14:14 |
| abhishekk | #topic Open discussion | 14:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: glance)" | 14:14 | |
| abhishekk | Anything? | 14:14 |
| dansmith | I have something random, if there's nothing else | 14:14 |
| abhishekk | floor is yours | 14:14 |
| rosmaita | dansmith: congratulations on your TC election, by the way | 14:15 |
| jokke | indeed! Thanks ofr taking it on and GZ dansmith | 14:15 |
| rosmaita | jokke: thank you for running, hope you do it again next time | 14:15 |
| dansmith | I'm sure this topic has come up before, but... especially for edge scenarios, there are situations where it would be really nice if an image had, uh, two formats, or a way to say "yeah I want that image, but in qcow2 format" | 14:15 |
| dansmith | rosmaita: jokke I think you mean "condolences" but.. yeah thanks :) | 14:16 |
| abhishekk | Congratulations dansmith | 14:16 |
| dansmith | I can think about a couple ways to do this, but wondering how much it has been discussed before? | 14:16 |
| rosmaita | dansmith: there used to be this thing called glare that did that | 14:16 |
| jokke | dansmith: thanks anyways :P | 14:16 |
| dansmith | rosmaita: I know a few things about glare, but I wouldn't have included this.. did glare just maintain some relationships or did it do more? | 14:17 |
| rosmaita | dansmith: the traditional answer is that images are supposed to be immutable, that a motivated operator can connect different formatted payloads via metadata | 14:17 |
| abhishekk | that was way back, may be couple of years back | 14:17 |
| smcginnis | I was wondering if that was a glare thing. | 14:17 |
| smcginnis | I haven't heard much feedback from the edge WG, but it would be interesting to hear if they've come across any image management things like this that we need to start considering. | 14:18 |
| dansmith | smcginnis: I seriously doubt the edge wg has discussed anything this technical :) | 14:18 |
| jokke | what rosmaita just said ... basically we have no problem "locking" thoe metadata keys down so it will be common across the intallations, but It's really metadata management issue | 14:18 |
| dansmith | smcginnis: I'm talking about from our own edge team and customers | 14:18 |
| smcginnis | Haha, yep. | 14:18 |
| jokke | something I think Searhlight was also addressing with metadefs | 14:19 |
| dansmith | jokke: right, so some standardized way of using metadata keys to indicate alternate formats would be one way, | 14:19 |
| jokke | smcginnis: they operate in much higher level than that | 14:19 |
| dansmith | in such a way that nova could rely on it and use it to pick a different format | 14:19 |
| rosmaita | dansmith: our problem with this in the past has been having a definite well-defined use case | 14:20 |
| rosmaita | so it sounds like maybe you have one now | 14:20 |
| dansmith | rosmaita: okay, do you want to hear my use-case? | 14:21 |
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| rosmaita | yes, or at the ptg | 14:21 |
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| dansmith | we can also discuss this during the ptg if people would prefer, but | 14:21 |
| abhishekk | PTG will be good one to discuss | 14:21 |
| dansmith | ...alright then :) | 14:21 |
| dansmith | abhishekk: shall I add to the etherpad? | 14:21 |
| rosmaita | abhishekk: cinder is ending at 1600, so if you schedule this to start at 1600, that would be good | 14:21 |
| abhishekk | also, if you can put up a specs or lite-spec that will be good | 14:21 |
| rosmaita | (i think you said you are meeting 1400-1700 ?) | 14:22 |
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| abhishekk | dansmith, yes, please add it to etherpad | 14:22 |
| jokke | dansmith: just throw your mind out so we have an idea what's coming. I think I know what you're after, but it doesn't hurt to have it out there in public | 14:22 |
| abhishekk | rosmaita, right | 14:22 |
| rosmaita | (i will stop paying attention again for a while_) | 14:22 |
| dansmith | jokke: I don't really have anything baked, but some way of saying "the master image is $uuid, in raw format, but it has metadata entries for a qcow version (which is actually $uuid2) and a vmdk (which is $uuid3), so if you want those, actually go grab those instead | 14:23 |
| dansmith | jokke: and then naturally it'd be nice to have a way to make glance generate those versions automatically after you've uploaded the raw, but that's not necessarily a requirement | 14:24 |
| dansmith | jokke: but then nova can, if configured to prefer a qcow, grab the qcow variant instead | 14:24 |
| rosmaita | would probably be better if glance did it, to make sure the metadata is populated correctly | 14:24 |
| rosmaita | if it's doing the conversion, i mean | 14:24 |
| dansmith | I can explain why this is important and what hacks we're doing now to avoid the wrong format at the ptg | 14:24 |
| dansmith | rosmaita: yeah, I'd really like it if it could | 14:24 |
| dansmith | rosmaita: because I also secretly think that would be better than image conversion on upload, but.. :) | 14:25 |
| dansmith | (replacing image conversion isn't the goal here though) | 14:25 |
| dansmith | anyway, | 14:26 |
| jokke | I think the biggest issue is how we communicate this to the user (Unless Nova uses the original ImageID in the instance metadata regardless which one it picked to be put down to disk) | 14:26 |
| dansmith | jokke: yep, we'd have to figure that out for sure | 14:26 |
| dansmith | jokke: but I think you're right, we'd need to use the original image uuid everywhere except the download, which would be fine, but there're still details with that approach | 14:26 |
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| jokke | As if user sends request like "openstack virtual machine please boot me an instance form image <ID> with 300gig of cinder storage on flavor LAMPStack" and the instance has some other image ID when it comes up | 14:27 |
| dansmith | yup that would be bad and stuff :) | 14:28 |
| dansmith | the other way would be to tag a location with a format, so it's all one image | 14:28 |
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| jokke | none of the hashing and verification supports that | 14:29 |
| dansmith | I think that's likely to be more work, and it affects the API, but it would be more integrated | 14:29 |
| jokke | thta would need refactorng a lot | 14:29 |
| abhishekk | yes | 14:29 |
| dansmith | yeah, so I think the "right" thing, if this was a feature from the beginning, would be that approach, but at this point it's too big a deal I suspect | 14:29 |
| jokke | I think it's one of those things that needs to be taken into consideration when designing Images API v3 ;P | 14:30 |
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| jokke | as we don't do microversion, so we can't break the api nilly willy when ever we feel like so :P | 14:33 |
| abhishekk | anyway both the ways needs lots of work | 14:34 |
| jokke | abhishekk: establishing metadata relations between two images is not that big of a deal | 14:35 |
| dansmith | abhishekk: the metadata way can be very little work, or more.. but anyway, let's discuss in the PTG | 14:35 |
| jokke | ++ | 14:35 |
| abhishekk | sounds good | 14:35 |
| abhishekk | dansmith, also let us know your convenient time for this discussion (kindly keep it post 1600 UTC) | 14:37 |
| dansmith | abhishekk: meaning timezone-wise or conflicts with other groups? | 14:37 |
| dansmith | timezone-wise, any time after 1400 is fine | 14:37 |
| abhishekk | dansmith, rosmaita will be busy with cinder between 1400 to 1600 UTC | 14:38 |
| dansmith | ah okay | 14:38 |
| dansmith | I have' | 14:38 |
| dansmith | not even looked at the nova scheduling yet | 14:38 |
| abhishekk | :D | 14:38 |
| abhishekk | anything else? | 14:39 |
| abhishekk | jokke, rosmaita | 14:39 |
| rosmaita | nothing from me | 14:39 |
| jokke | nothing from me | 14:40 |
| abhishekk | cool, lets meet during PTG then | 14:40 |
| abhishekk | thank you all | 14:40 |
| abhishekk | have a great weekend and summit | 14:40 |
| jokke | thanks all | 14:40 |
| jokke | Long weekend for us Red Hatters | 14:40 |
| abhishekk | #endmeeting | 14:40 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 14:40 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Oct 15 14:40:58 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:41 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2020/glance.2020-10-15-14.01.html | 14:41 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2020/glance.2020-10-15-14.01.txt | 14:41 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/glance/2020/glance.2020-10-15-14.01.log.html | 14:41 |
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| gagehugo | #startmeeting security | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Oct 15 15:00:26 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gagehugo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: security)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'security' | 15:00 |
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| gagehugo | o/ | 15:01 |
| gagehugo | Not much on the agenda today | 15:04 |
| gagehugo | #topic Next 2 meetings cancelled | 15:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Next 2 meetings cancelled (Meeting topic: security)" | 15:04 | |
| gagehugo | Next week is the summit, and the following is the PTG, so I am proposing cancelling the next 2 weeks of meetings | 15:05 |
| * redrobot nods | 15:05 | |
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| fungi | oh, hi, sorry, firefighting right now | 15:06 |
| fungi | i mentioned some bugs in #openstack-security | 15:06 |
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| gagehugo | fungi: no worries | 15:07 |
| fungi | and yes, cancelling the next two weeks sounds good | 15:07 |
| gagehugo | I'll send out an email today about cancelling them | 15:08 |
| gagehugo | #topic bug updates | 15:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bug updates (Meeting topic: security)" | 15:08 | |
| gagehugo | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1799298 | 15:08 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1799298 in OpenStack Compute (nova) rocky "Metadata API cross joining instance_metadata and instance_system_metadata" [Medium,Triaged] | 15:08 |
| gagehugo | This was switched to public security today, thanks fungi | 15:08 |
| gagehugo | also this merged last night | 15:09 |
| gagehugo | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/757465/ | 15:09 |
| patchbot | patch 757465 - ossa - Add OSSA-2020-007 (CVE-2020-26943) (MERGED) - 1 patch set | 15:09 |
| fungi | priteau isn't around today i guess, but the rst version can be copied from https://security.openstack.org/_sources/ossa/OSSA-2020-007.rst if he wants to send that to any of the mailing lists mentioned at the end of https://security.openstack.org/vmt-process.html#openstack-security-advisories-ossa | 15:10 |
| gagehugo | #topic PTG Agenda | 15:10 |
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| gagehugo | oh whoops | 15:10 |
| gagehugo | fungi: sure | 15:10 |
| fungi | #link https://launchpad.net/bugs/1899229 Nova compute log can get the password info from the user_data | 15:11 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1899229 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Nova compute log can get the password info from the user_data" [Wishlist,Confirmed] | 15:11 |
| fungi | that was also switched to public in the past week | 15:11 |
| gagehugo | ok | 15:12 |
| gagehugo | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/security-sig-wallaby-ptg | 15:13 |
| gagehugo | ^ agenda for the PTG, if anyone wants to add topics | 15:13 |
| gagehugo | I will send that out in the mailing list as well | 15:13 |
| gagehugo | fungi: if priteau isn't around by EoD, do we want to send out the email then regardless? | 15:14 |
| gagehugo | I can do that | 15:14 |
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| fungi | gagehugo: it can probably wait until he's around to confirm | 15:15 |
| gagehugo | ok | 15:15 |
| gagehugo | #topic open discussion | 15:15 |
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| gagehugo | Anything else for this week? | 15:15 |
| fungi | he seemed to think that there was probably only one user of that feature, and he helped them mitigate it before the bug became public | 15:15 |
| gagehugo | ah ok | 15:15 |
| gagehugo | we can let him confirm it then | 15:16 |
| fungi | so circulating the advisory more widely is likely not urgent | 15:16 |
| fungi | i didn't have anything else really | 15:18 |
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| gagehugo | fungi: thanks, have a good rest of the week | 15:18 |
| gagehugo | #endmeeting | 15:18 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Oct 15 15:18:50 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:18 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2020/security.2020-10-15-15.00.html | 15:18 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2020/security.2020-10-15-15.00.txt | 15:18 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2020/security.2020-10-15-15.00.log.html | 15:18 |
| fungi | thanks gagehugo, you too! | 15:18 |
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