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ykado | Hi, I've heard that there is a masakari meeting ATM. It's my first time joining a Openstack project meeting. Is there actually a meeting now? | 04:05 |
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ykado | #startmeeting masakari | 04:41 |
openstack | Meeting started Tue Sep 1 04:41:34 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ykado. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 04:41 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 04:41 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: masakari)" | 04:41 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'masakari' | 04:41 |
ykado | #endmeeting | 04:47 |
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 04:47 | |
openstack | Meeting ended Tue Sep 1 04:47:31 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 04:47 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/masakari/2020/masakari.2020-09-01-04.41.html | 04:47 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/masakari/2020/masakari.2020-09-01-04.41.txt | 04:47 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/masakari/2020/masakari.2020-09-01-04.41.log.html | 04:47 |
ykado | Sorry my mistake | 04:47 |
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yoctozepto | ykado: in one and half an hour, we're moving it; will probably run it on #openstack-masakari | 06:31 |
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yoctozepto | ykado: sorry, I wanted to mean in half an hour, that is in 8 minutes from now; I looked at the wrong clock | 06:52 |
yoctozepto | ykado: please join at #openstack-masakari to not miss it; though logs will surely be provided | 06:53 |
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yoctozepto | > masakari meeting on #openstack-masakari < | 07:03 |
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yoctozepto | > masakari meeting on #openstack-masakari < | 07:15 |
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yasufum | Hi, tacker team | 08:01 |
manpreet | hi | 08:01 |
ueha | Hi | 08:01 |
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hyunsikyang | Hi | 08:02 |
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yasufum | #startmeeting tacker | 08:04 |
openstack | Meeting started Tue Sep 1 08:04:56 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is yasufum. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:04 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 08:04 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: tacker)" | 08:04 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tacker' | 08:05 |
yoshito-ito | hi | 08:05 |
yasufum | hi | 08:05 |
Liang | hi | 08:05 |
masazumi-ota | hi | 08:06 |
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yasufum | First of all, I have shared reserved time slots and etherpad for vPTG | 08:06 |
hyunsikyang | I got the email. | 08:06 |
yasufum | https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/Tacker-PTG-Wallaby | 08:06 |
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hyunsikyang | Thx yasufum | 08:06 |
takahashi-tsc | Hi, sorry for the late... | 08:07 |
yasufum | Please add entry from yours before the vPTG | 08:07 |
yasufum | I would like also to ask to register the vPTG | 08:08 |
yasufum | as announced on ML | 08:08 |
yoshito-ito | Which part can we add our entries in the etherpad? Under "Topics:"? | 08:09 |
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yasufum | Yes, as similar to the previsou vptg etherpad | 08:10 |
yoshito-ito | OK, thanks. | 08:11 |
yoshito-ito | I have a topic related to the document | 08:14 |
yasufum | OK, go ahead | 08:14 |
yoshito-ito | As I explained last week IRC, I made a sample of new index of Tacker documents. | 08:15 |
yasufum | #topic docs-update | 08:15 |
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yoshito-ito | The 7th topic in https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/tacker-meeting | 08:15 |
yoshito-ito | If it seems OK, I will upload a patch to change the index. At the same time, we will have many TODOs to update documents especially for ETSI NFV-SOL beased implementation. | 08:16 |
hyunsikyang | good! thanks yoshito-ito | 08:16 |
yoshito-ito | I already uploaded some doc-revise patches, and will upload more after the change of index. | 08:17 |
takahashi-tsc | Index seems good, thanks! And I start to prepare documents for CentOS and Testing document. | 08:17 |
yoshito-ito | Great! thank you. We still have many TBDs so I welcome your help! | 08:18 |
yoshito-ito | Please leave your notes on the etherpad if you have questions or comments. | 08:19 |
yoshito-ito | that's all from me, thank you. | 08:19 |
hyunsikyang | I have a two topic! | 08:19 |
hyunsikyang | today. | 08:19 |
yasufum | OK, please go ahead | 08:20 |
hyunsikyang | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/681157/ | 08:20 |
patchbot | patch 681157 - tacker - Implementation Fenix plugin in Tacker - 18 patch sets | 08:20 |
hyunsikyang | Now, we are ready to merge it. Please check it again:) | 08:21 |
hyunsikyang | 2. Networking-sfc | 08:21 |
hyunsikyang | we are starting the test networking sfc function in the tacker. At first we will figure out some feature. I will update it to etherpad:) | 08:22 |
yasufum | Thanks. I will check them. | 08:23 |
hyunsikyang | thanks. | 08:24 |
yasufum | It seems there are many patches uploaded recentl, mainly from NEC. | 08:28 |
yasufum | Is there anyone required to be reviewed soon? | 08:28 |
yasufum | Or it is OK in anytime? | 08:29 |
manpreet | Just a humble request if you could please help in attaining final +2 for these two reviews "https://review.opendev.org/#/c/745624/" and "https://review.opendev.org/#/c/745630/". Thanks!! | 08:30 |
patchbot | patch 745624 - tacker-specs - Fix old link in Tacker Queens Spec - 1 patch set | 08:30 |
patchbot | patch 745630 - tacker-specs - Fix old links in Tacker Ocata Spec - 1 patch set | 08:30 |
yoshito-ito | This patch "https://review.opendev.org/#/c/739697/" need review soon because it's parent of the next patch for CNF. This is ready to merge so please review it again. | 08:33 |
patchbot | patch 739697 - tacker - Implementation Artifacts support in Tacker - 10 patch sets | 08:33 |
takahashi-tsc | I'd like you to check my bug fix because I want to know this fix way is correct or not. | 08:34 |
takahashi-tsc | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/740179/ | 08:34 |
patchbot | patch 740179 - tacker - Fix: Remove wrong constraint in vnf_package_vnfd - 1 patch set | 08:34 |
yasufum | manpreet: I would like to ask other cores to review asap if possible. | 08:35 |
manpreet | Many thanks :) | 08:35 |
yasufum | yoshito-ito: I already started to review, but not complete yet because it is quite largeā¦ sorry | 08:36 |
yoshito-ito | yasufumi: thank you. | 08:37 |
yasufum | takahashi-tsc: It looks no problem after I did recheck, so I would like to give +2 after reviewing again. | 08:38 |
takahashi-tsc | yasufum Thanks! | 08:39 |
yasufum | I would like to go on the next topic if no more request for reviewing. | 08:41 |
yasufum | #topic questions-on-launchpad | 08:42 |
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yasufum | We have had some questions on lanchpad, but cannot answer them yet. | 08:43 |
yasufum | link: https://answers.launchpad.net/tacker | 08:44 |
yasufum | It is almost the same situation on bugs. | 08:44 |
yasufum | Although I will try to fix them, I appreciate if you help them. | 08:45 |
yasufum | especially for users of centos :) | 08:46 |
yasufum | That is all from me, thanks | 08:46 |
takahashi-tsc | I'll continue to investigate 691071, and I can answer 692587. I'm not sure that I can investigate others... | 08:47 |
manpreet | +1 will try to contribute. | 08:48 |
takahashi-tsc | I will answer as much as possible, but I would appreciate it if someone help... | 08:49 |
yasufum | takahashi-tsc: Thanks for your suggestion | 08:51 |
hyunsikyang | I also find a problem that I can help | 08:53 |
yasufum | For 692506, a bug of tacker horizon, I have already tackled similar problem in the latest commit. So, I can do something for the problem. | 08:53 |
yasufum | Thanks hyunsikyang and all. | 08:54 |
yasufum | It seems done all topics today. I would like to close this meeting if there is no other ones. | 08:55 |
yasufum | Thanks | 08:55 |
yoshito-ito | thank you. bye! | 08:55 |
manpreet | bye | 08:55 |
yasufum | bye | 08:55 |
takahashi-tsc | Thanks, bye | 08:55 |
yasufum | #endmeeting | 08:56 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Tue Sep 1 08:56:02 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 08:56 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2020/tacker.2020-09-01-08.04.html | 08:56 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2020/tacker.2020-09-01-08.04.txt | 08:56 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2020/tacker.2020-09-01-08.04.log.html | 08:56 |
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oneswig | #startmeeting scientific-sig | 21:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Tue Sep 1 21:00:16 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is oneswig. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'scientific_sig' | 21:00 |
oneswig | Hey Scoob | 21:00 |
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oneswig | #link Today's agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Scientific_SIG#IRC_Meeting_September_1st_2020 | 21:01 |
TheJulia | o/ | 21:01 |
oneswig | Hi TheJulia, welcome! | 21:01 |
oneswig | ears burning? :-) | 21:01 |
oneswig | martial: you there? | 21:02 |
trandles | Hi all | 21:02 |
oneswig | Hi trandles | 21:02 |
martial | yes Hi :) | 21:02 |
oneswig | #chair martial | 21:02 |
openstack | Current chairs: martial oneswig | 21:02 |
TheJulia | oneswig: no, not really burning :) | 21:02 |
oneswig | awesome, well let's talk kexec... | 21:03 |
oneswig | #topic Ironic deploy and kexec | 21:03 |
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oneswig | context on this is that BIOS is sometimes just too damn slow to endure a second lap on deployment | 21:04 |
oneswig | In some circumstances, we are measured by the time taken to deploy / redeploy n servers where n is uncomfortably large. | 21:04 |
TheJulia | I've wanted to see this be a thing in ironic for quite some time. However I simply don't have time to make it happen on my own. I've got some patches, and I'm happy to hack on patches occasionally, but could really use some help with at least some reviews and testing. | 21:05 |
TheJulia | So in our midcycle call this week, the topic came up of trying to get a smallish working group together of interested parties to collaborate and try and push it over the finish line. | 21:05 |
TheJulia | The added bonus of which, being able to influence use cases/operation and such | 21:06 |
oneswig | TheJulia: I hope someone from our team can help. Worst case, its me... | 21:06 |
trandles | I'm on board for testing/review/QA | 21:06 |
TheJulia | That would be awesome! | 21:06 |
TheJulia | Anyway, I created a quick dooddle with some time windows to try and see if we could get on a call to discuss. | 21:07 |
TheJulia | #link https://doodle.com/poll/ihbbtns36b2rkhfd | 21:07 |
TheJulia | I guess that is kind of it unless there are questions/comments/thoughts/wants/etc | 21:08 |
* TheJulia adds needs to that list | 21:08 | |
oneswig | Great. Where are you at with your patches? | 21:08 |
TheJulia | oneswig: need rebasing, they haven't been tested, more so just trying to get the idea out of my head | 21:10 |
oneswig | One other thought - is this compatible with multi-tenant networking, or are they mutually exclusive due to the shortcuts taken? | 21:10 |
TheJulia | mostly to see the areas where things would tie in | 21:10 |
TheJulia | multi-tenant networking would need tobe something we consider since it is another path. It might be feasible but we may jsut need to be able to tell ironic's agent to "go kexec in 15 seconds" | 21:11 |
TheJulia | naturally there is also greater risk there, but we're at the stage where discussion of such needs/wants/concerns/thoughts/desires are important | 21:12 |
oneswig | It does seem tricky... | 21:13 |
TheJulia | Yeah, I also kind of want to see kexecing from a persistent agent as well, so it does lend itself to needing to being able to navigate multiple paths | 21:13 |
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oneswig | Sorry What do you mean by persistent agent? | 21:14 |
TheJulia | And yes, I'm thinking some operators could go from a deployed workload, to deployment ramdisk, to another workload without an actual reboot in such a case | 21:14 |
trandles | I'm hoping standalone is the easiest case and where the work starts (mostly because that's the one I need) | 21:15 |
oneswig | OK - wow, interesting idea. | 21:15 |
TheJulia | there has been some community interest in trying to eventually make ironic's agent such that it could live inside an instance and eventually tear down the node from with-in. Naturally there are other concerns there that would need to be navigated, but it is a neat concept of sorts | 21:15 |
TheJulia | trandles: ++ | 21:15 |
oneswig | TheJulia: what's the feature deadline for Victoria? Too soon? | 21:18 |
TheJulia | It is very unlikely to make Victoria. If there is enough interest it should make our first release after the end of victoria cycle release | 21:18 |
TheJulia | of course, if people are really interested and want to focus on it, maybe we might be able to make things happen in a couple weeks | 21:19 |
oneswig | That would be a stretch at this end. | 21:19 |
TheJulia | Unfortunately I lack a time machine to go collect the code from the future as well... | 21:19 |
* TheJulia hopes someone got a chuckle out of that | 21:20 | |
oneswig | I would lend you mine but Trump borrowed it and hasn't given it back... | 21:20 |
trandles | I'll expedite figuring out the upstream stuff so I can at least review in a meaningful way | 21:20 |
TheJulia | oneswig: DOH! | 21:20 |
TheJulia | trandles: I'd be happy to jump on a call and kind of try to walk you through that if you want | 21:21 |
trandles | if Trump is working on future knowledge we're all doomed...nevermind TheJulia we won't need kexec | 21:21 |
oneswig | The tangled webs we weave. | 21:21 |
TheJulia | silly paradoxes :( | 21:22 |
trandles | TheJulia: thanks for the offer. I'll ask for help if I get stuck. | 21:22 |
oneswig | TheJulia: will you announce the kexec-wg meeting on openstack-discuss? I'll keep an eye out if so. | 21:22 |
TheJulia | oneswig: I will, and I'll send a calendar invite out to participants if I have their email addresses | 21:24 |
TheJulia | or can find them | 21:24 |
oneswig | sounds good to me. Thanks TheJulia | 21:24 |
oneswig | OK - any more on kexec? | 21:26 |
TheJulia | Not from me, thanks! | 21:27 |
oneswig | Great, thanks for coming along TheJulia | 21:27 |
oneswig | #topic CANOPIE-HPC | 21:27 |
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oneswig | Busy week for the LANL folks it seems | 21:27 |
trandles | always I'm afraid | 21:27 |
oneswig | trandles: are you involved in CANOPIE? | 21:28 |
trandles | I'm a reviewer so beware | 21:28 |
trandles | well, I said "yes" when asked but haven't heard anything more | 21:28 |
oneswig | #link CFP for CANOPIE https://www.canopie-hpc.org/cfp20/ | 21:28 |
oneswig | What's the focus this time around, anything specific? | 21:29 |
trandles | I think the new deadline is Sept. 10 btw | 21:29 |
trandles | oneswig: checking... | 21:29 |
trandles | no particular theme that I know of, quite a broad scope at https://www.canopie-hpc.org/cfp20/ | 21:31 |
oneswig | As a counterpoint I'm trying to think of a topic that's out of scope :-) | 21:31 |
trandles | the CFP does say "include but are not limited to" | 21:32 |
oneswig | Damn, headed that one off! | 21:32 |
oneswig | Debugging's an interesting subject. Can you attach gdb to a process in a container and expect gdb to find the exec and symbols? | 21:33 |
trandles | that is a topic I'd love to hear more about, not just debuggers but analysis tools like tau, stat, etc. | 21:33 |
trandles | it's on my own internal hot list of things the community needs to get a handle on and develop some best practices | 21:34 |
martial | Deadline has been extended to 9/10 | 21:34 |
trandles | also best practices for containerized MPI applications at scale | 21:35 |
trandles | Charliecloud has spoiled me, other runtimes are painfully horrible at that | 21:35 |
oneswig | What's new with Charliecloud? | 21:36 |
trandles | unpriviledged build | 21:36 |
trandles | totally unprivileged, no setuid nonsense | 21:36 |
trandles | also on the near term roadmap, multi-stage builds | 21:37 |
trandles | better support for `spack containerize` | 21:37 |
trandles | there are lots of other things but maybe not of general interest...like all containers are read-only and if you application can't handle that you're doing it wrong | 21:40 |
trandles | *your | 21:40 |
oneswig | On a tangent we've had huge problems building and running WRF with any semblance of portability. I'd buy so much beer for someone who could containerise it in a way that works. Unfortunately it's a mutant in that the data model somehow gets compiled into the code. You think you've got badly-behaved applicatoins :-) | 21:41 |
trandles | *your appliction*...geesh | 21:41 |
trandles | I'm not familiar with WRF | 21:41 |
trandles | oh, weather, nevermind | 21:41 |
oneswig | weather code. When we have a client who wants it, it's always a stormy forecast | 21:42 |
trandles | I'll buy you a beer for that one ;) | 21:42 |
martial | lol | 21:42 |
oneswig | trandles: do you use the tau visualization tool? | 21:43 |
trandles | we do | 21:43 |
trandles | beyond that, it's far from my area | 21:43 |
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oneswig | must be a fascinating field to work in. | 21:45 |
trandles | we just had a tau workshop for users last week | 21:45 |
oneswig | their example of visualising MPI_Alltoallv over 786432 cores ... | 21:47 |
oneswig | Such a shame they couldn't round up to the million | 21:48 |
martial | have you seen the new gaming GPU announced today? | 21:48 |
oneswig | No, what's new? | 21:49 |
trandles | RTX 3090? | 21:49 |
martial | they announced the 3070, 3080 and yes the 3090 | 21:50 |
martial | we all kind of knew it was coming :) | 21:50 |
martial | but it is a nice range of hardware | 21:50 |
martial | they announced a few other things, but the 3090 will have 24GB of memory | 21:51 |
martial | if you want to see the announcement, here is the youtube link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKx-eMAVK70 | 21:51 |
martial | no Ti this time | 21:52 |
oneswig | Sounds ideal for business graphics. | 21:53 |
martial | yes it looks rather nice | 21:55 |
martial | Performance is 1.5 to 2 times faster than previous gen | 21:55 |
martial | which is nice as well | 21:55 |
trandles | I could say "what's a GPU?" because other than my work laptop I don't have a computer at home. :P | 21:56 |
martial | I should not start to count the number of computers in this room alone :) | 21:56 |
trandles | I use my phone for everything...which says a lot about the current state of HPC hardware :( | 21:56 |
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martial | hey it works for what you need | 21:57 |
trandles | when nvidia buys ARM I'm going to look into llama farming | 21:57 |
oneswig | trandles: those huawei phones are awesome :-) | 21:57 |
martial | or one plus | 21:58 |
oneswig | Nearly at time - last gasp comments | 21:58 |
trandles | PTG?!?! | 21:58 |
martial | trandles that is a plan | 21:58 |
martial | oh right :) | 21:58 |
trandles | is the SIG submitting something? | 21:58 |
martial | #topic PTG | 21:59 |
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martial | we were planning to | 21:59 |
oneswig | ah yes. I took an action two weeks ago to do something like last time. | 21:59 |
martial | I know we discussed it | 21:59 |
trandles | martial will do it, great, thanks Martial! | 21:59 |
martial | did I just walk into a trap? | 21:59 |
martial | I am pretty sure Stig is mostly done :) | 22:00 |
oneswig | A trap so subtle | 22:00 |
martial | Stig: did you do something or not? | 22:00 |
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oneswig | np, I said I'd do the paperwork - I will sort it. | 22:00 |
martial | I can take care of it, but not before next week | 22:00 |
martial | what is the deadline? | 22:00 |
oneswig | 9th? 11th? | 22:00 |
oneswig | I'll look into it tomorrow. | 22:01 |
oneswig | time to close | 22:01 |
martial | thank you; ping me if you need help | 22:01 |
trandles | I'd do it but I'm busy working on containerizing WRF for oneswig. He offered beer. | 22:01 |
oneswig | trandles: you don't know what you're getting into, walk away | 22:01 |
martial | hey ... the right priorities :) | 22:01 |
oneswig | OK, thanks all | 22:01 |
oneswig | #endmeeting | 22:01 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Tue Sep 1 22:01:55 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:01 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_sig/2020/scientific_sig.2020-09-01-21.00.html | 22:01 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_sig/2020/scientific_sig.2020-09-01-21.00.txt | 22:01 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_sig/2020/scientific_sig.2020-09-01-21.00.log.html | 22:02 |
martial | thank everybody :) | 22:02 |
trandles | bye folks | 22:02 |
oneswig | likewise! | 22:02 |
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