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| slaweq | #startmeeting neutron_drivers | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Fri Jul 10 14:00:18 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is slaweq. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| slaweq | hi | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_drivers)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_drivers' | 14:00 |
| ralonsoh | hi | 14:00 |
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| yamamoto | hi | 14:00 |
| lajoskatona | Hi | 14:00 |
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| njohnston | o/ | 14:01 |
| mlavalle | o/ | 14:01 |
| slaweq | lets wait few more minutes for amotoki | 14:01 |
| slaweq | first of all, as not many of You were here last week, please welcome ralonsoh as our new team member :) | 14:02 |
| ralonsoh | thanks! | 14:02 |
| yamamoto | welcome | 14:03 |
| ralonsoh | thank you | 14:03 |
| slaweq | ok, I think we can start now | 14:03 |
| slaweq | #topic RFEs | 14:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "RFEs (Meeting topic: neutron_drivers)" | 14:03 | |
| slaweq | we have couple of RFEs for today | 14:03 |
| slaweq | first one is from ralonsoh | 14:03 |
| slaweq | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1886798 | 14:04 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1886798 in neutron "[RFE] Port NUMA affinity policy" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Rodolfo Alonso (rodolfo-alonso-hernandez) | 14:04 |
| ralonsoh | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/740011/ | 14:04 |
| ralonsoh | I still need to address some comments from Sean | 14:04 |
| ralonsoh | the goal is to add a new paratemer in the port description, "numa_affinity_policy" | 14:05 |
| ralonsoh | that can be None, legacy, preferred or required | 14:05 |
| ralonsoh | that will work the same a PCI numa policies, but for all type of ports | 14:05 |
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| ralonsoh | please, ask me if you have questions | 14:06 |
| slaweq | tbh for me it's ok to approve this rfe as we already discussed that in the past | 14:06 |
| slaweq | and imo we can clarify some details in the spec's review | 14:06 |
| ralonsoh | perfect | 14:06 |
| njohnston | +1 | 14:07 |
| yamamoto | i have no objection | 14:07 |
| slaweq | but in sake of procedures I wanted to add it to our agenda for today :) | 14:07 |
| ralonsoh | thank you all | 14:08 |
| mlavalle | +1 | 14:08 |
| slaweq | ok, so I think we are good with that one | 14:08 |
| slaweq | I will mark it as approved today | 14:08 |
| slaweq | and I think we can move on to the next one | 14:09 |
| slaweq | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1880532 | 14:09 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1880532 in neutron "[RFE]L3 Router should support ECMP" [Wishlist,New] - Assigned to XiaoYu Zhu (honglan0914) | 14:09 |
| ZhuXiaoYu | I'm here today, ask me if you have any question | 14:10 |
| slaweq | welcome ZhuXiaoYu :) | 14:10 |
| ZhuXiaoYu | :) | 14:10 |
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| ZhuXiaoYu | since we plan to use iptables to do this, I think it should have a separate API | 14:12 |
| ZhuXiaoYu | And I don't want to destroy the original logic of extraroute. | 14:13 |
| yamamoto | i don't understand. iptables is just an implementation. | 14:14 |
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| slaweq | yamamoto: so it's the same for me, I'm still not convinced that we need new parameters for that | 14:16 |
| ZhuXiaoYu | I think it's not like what extraroute does anymore, yamamoto san | 14:18 |
| ZhuXiaoYu | And don't you think that using the original API would add time complexity? | 14:19 |
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| yamamoto | do you mean complexity in a particular iptables-based implementation? | 14:20 |
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| ZhuXiaoYu | I would have to search every single extraroute entry, even if I just need adding a normal route, I mean | 14:21 |
| slaweq | ZhuXiaoYu: I still think that changing existing API to allow routes with same "destination" and different "nexthop" could be maybe better solution | 14:21 |
| slaweq | and getting all routes is just one db query always | 14:22 |
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| ZhuXiaoYu | Well, I'll consider the feasibility of that. | 14:23 |
| slaweq | I wonder what others thinks about it | 14:24 |
| ZhuXiaoYu | But the logic of the original 'replacement' would have been destroyed. | 14:24 |
| ralonsoh | slaweq's idea could be easier to implement and less intrusive with the current code | 14:25 |
| slaweq | ZhuXiaoYu: internally You can check if there is only one route to the destination or more than one and implement it in 2 different ways | 14:26 |
| slaweq | or if that would be possible, we can change our existing "replacement" method to something different which will be the same no matter how many routes to the dest we will have | 14:26 |
| slaweq | that's how I see it but I may be missing some details which can break this idea :) | 14:27 |
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| ZhuXiaoYu | I need some time to think about whether this will affect my ability to implement a sustainable hash. | 14:30 |
| slaweq | IMO all what You need You can "calculate" in the code when You will get data from the DB | 14:31 |
| yamamoto | i thought the existing API allowed routes with same "destination" and different "nexthop". at least there seems to be no db constraints to reject them. | 14:32 |
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| slaweq | yamamoto: that would be even better as that would means that no API changes would be needed at all | 14:33 |
| ZhuXiaoYu | Fine, I will change that if wo find it works | 14:33 |
| ZhuXiaoYu | if I find it works | 14:34 |
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| ZhuXiaoYu | sorry | 14:34 |
| ZhuXiaoYu | Other questions? | 14:34 |
| slaweq | ok, so ZhuXiaoYu please test that and update RFE | 14:34 |
| slaweq | and then I think we can get back to it once again | 14:35 |
| slaweq | are You all ok with that? | 14:35 |
| mlavalle | ZhuXiaoYu: when you typed wo, were you thinking 我? | 14:35 |
| ZhuXiaoYu | :) | 14:36 |
| mlavalle | LOL | 14:36 |
| slaweq | :) | 14:37 |
| slaweq | I had to check in google translate what this means :) | 14:37 |
| ZhuXiaoYu | it means `I` | 14:37 |
| ZhuXiaoYu | LOL | 14:37 |
| slaweq | ok, anyone have any other questions about this RFE for today? | 14:37 |
| ralonsoh | +1 to update the RFE and revisit it again | 14:38 |
| njohnston | +1 | 14:38 |
| mlavalle | +1 | 14:38 |
| yamamoto | no more questions from me | 14:38 |
| slaweq | great | 14:38 |
| slaweq | ZhuXiaoYu: so please test that and comment in the RFE | 14:38 |
| ZhuXiaoYu | I will | 14:39 |
| slaweq | ZhuXiaoYu: and thx for proposing this :) | 14:39 |
| slaweq | ok | 14:39 |
| slaweq | that was all what I sent to You yesterday | 14:39 |
| slaweq | but today morning one more RFE jumped to the agenda | 14:40 |
| slaweq | so as we have some time lets check it | 14:40 |
| slaweq | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1886949 | 14:40 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1886949 in neutron "[RFE] Granular metering data in neutron-metering-agent" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Rafael Weingartner (rafaelweingartner) | 14:40 |
| ralonsoh | now we have two new proposals to change/evolve the metering | 14:41 |
| slaweq | yes, we have improved liuyulong's RFE to add some metering based on tc counters into the L3 agent | 14:42 |
| slaweq | but now it seems that metering agent is used by someone really :) | 14:42 |
| slaweq | and as it isn't deprecated (yet) IMO it's worth to discuss this RFE | 14:42 |
| ralonsoh | and this idea of adding "granularity" could be used in the L3 agent too | 14:43 |
| ralonsoh | for lp#1886949 | 14:43 |
| slaweq | ralonsoh: You mean to reuse granularity proposed here in the liuyulong's proposal? | 14:45 |
| njohnston | I can certainly see how the data would be useful | 14:45 |
| ralonsoh | no, the one proposed in this RFE | 14:45 |
| ralonsoh | Rafael is proposing to make the metering message for "flexible", adding more information | 14:46 |
| ralonsoh | that could be an idea, to have tags about the type of info you want transmit | 14:46 |
| ralonsoh | *want to transmit | 14:47 |
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| slaweq | looking at the proposed change of the message format I'm not sure if we need another config knob for that | 14:49 |
| slaweq | we could maybe simply add some new fields to the existing message so it would be backward compatible always | 14:49 |
| slaweq | wdyt? | 14:49 |
| mlavalle | would the receiving end be confused by the "new fields"? | 14:50 |
| slaweq | idk | 14:51 |
| slaweq | that is good question indeed :) | 14:51 |
| njohnston | Does this granularity imply an increase in the number of emssages sent to the notification queue? | 14:51 |
| yamamoto | i wonder how much the new format can increase ceilometer traffic for real deployments | 14:52 |
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| njohnston | If message volume will increase that is something that an operator might want to be able to turn off, if their RabbitMQ is stressed. | 14:52 |
| mlavalle | yeap | 14:52 |
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| slaweq | ok, that are all good questions to the owner of the RFE :) | 14:54 |
| slaweq | can You post them in the RFE comments or do You want me to summarize it and post a comment there? | 14:55 |
| mlavalle | why not just point to the relevant section of this meeting's log? | 14:55 |
| slaweq | mlavalle: sure, I can do that too :) | 14:56 |
| slaweq | ok, so I will write a comment there and we can get back to the discussion when we will have replies for those comments | 14:56 |
| njohnston | sounds good | 14:57 |
| ralonsoh | +1 | 14:57 |
| slaweq | that's all what I have for today | 14:57 |
| slaweq | one quick announcement at the end | 14:57 |
| slaweq | next 2 weeks I will be off so I asked mlavalle to chair this meeting | 14:57 |
| slaweq | thx mlavalle for help with that | 14:57 |
| mlavalle | :-) | 14:58 |
| njohnston | Have a great vacation slaweq! | 14:58 |
| slaweq | thx | 14:58 |
| slaweq | have a great weekend all | 14:58 |
| slaweq | and see You in 2 weeks :) | 14:58 |
| slaweq | o/ | 14:58 |
| slaweq | #endmeeting | 14:58 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 14:58 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Fri Jul 10 14:58:28 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:58 |
| njohnston | o/ | 14:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2020/neutron_drivers.2020-07-10-14.00.html | 14:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2020/neutron_drivers.2020-07-10-14.00.txt | 14:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2020/neutron_drivers.2020-07-10-14.00.log.html | 14:58 |
| ralonsoh | bye | 14:58 |
| mlavalle | o/ | 14:58 |
| lajoskatona | Bye, have a good weekend & vacation | 14:58 |
| yamamoto | good night | 14:58 |
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