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| yasufum | hi, tacker team | 08:01 |
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| manpreet | hi | 08:01 |
| takahashi-tsc | Hi | 08:02 |
| ueha | Hi | 08:02 |
| hyunsikyang | hi | 08:02 |
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| masazumi-ota | Hi | 08:03 |
| yasufum | I have nothing for this meeting today. | 08:04 |
| yasufum | Do you have any topic? | 08:04 |
| takahashi-tsc | I've finished write spec about EventAlarm. | 08:05 |
| takahashi-tsc | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/700167/ | 08:05 |
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| yoshito-ito | hi | 08:05 |
| yasufum | o/ | 08:06 |
| Liang | hi | 08:06 |
| yasufum | takahashi-tsc: thanks. I would like reviwe your spec. | 08:06 |
| takahashi-tsc | Thanks. I'm glad if you check by 10th July. | 08:06 |
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| yasufum | noted | 08:06 |
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| takahashi-tsc | I have 1 topic to discuss, about TST discussion. | 08:07 |
| yasufum | OK, I will start the meeting first | 08:07 |
| yasufum | #startmeeting tacker | 08:07 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jun 23 08:07:51 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is yasufum. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:07 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 08:07 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tacker' | 08:07 |
| yasufum | please go a head | 08:08 |
| takahashi-tsc | OK | 08:08 |
| takahashi-tsc | https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/tacker-meeting | 08:08 |
| takahashi-tsc | I'd like to discuss TST010 discuss (L17-), especially, bold part. | 08:09 |
| takahashi-tsc | s/L17/L27/ | 08:09 |
| takahashi-tsc | First(L36-), I'd like to request to make all 2xx test and 4xx test. I also ask TST's policy about coverage of response code. Is it OK? | 08:11 |
| hyunsikyang | I can't access above link | 08:11 |
| takahashi-tsc | Really? I can access it... | 08:12 |
| yoshito-ito | I can access, too. so might be network problem? | 08:12 |
| yasufum | no problem from my side too | 08:12 |
| masazumi-ota | I can access, too. | 08:12 |
| yasufum | takahashi-tsc: could you write down the point here if possible | 08:13 |
| hyunsikyang | I can see now sorry | 08:13 |
| takahashi-tsc | You means all points about TST discuss? | 08:13 |
| yasufum | OK, return back to the topic | 08:15 |
| yoshito-ito | basically I agree to request all 2xx and 4xx tests | 08:16 |
| yasufum | I roughly agreed with your suggestion in the last meeting, and no objection. | 08:16 |
| yasufum | LGTM | 08:16 |
| takahashi-tsc | Sure, so move to next topic. | 08:16 |
| takahashi-tsc | About HTTP response header | 08:16 |
| takahashi-tsc | I agree that we need tests which check HTTP response header. | 08:17 |
| takahashi-tsc | In SOL002/003, there are only description about "Location" and "Link" fileds. Our request is only testing them? Is there anything others? | 08:17 |
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| yoshito-ito | I'm not sure how our request will be when requesting response header tests | 08:19 |
| yoshito-ito | will it be a request to add check points related to response header in TST010? | 08:20 |
| takahashi-tsc | "Location" and "Link" fields should be reply from server side, so we should check. I think these filed can be checked by Robot Framework. | 08:21 |
| takahashi-tsc | In my opinion, these test is included in "API test". | 08:22 |
| yoshito-ito | I agree. Some testcase in TST010 have some check points like "Check HTTP Response Header Contains ETag" | 08:23 |
| yoshito-ito | but not sure our requests can be a request to TST010 to pick up all response header related check points, or simply to implement RF | 08:24 |
| yoshito-ito | all RF codes is implemented according to TST010 so we need the check description in TST010 to have the test in RF | 08:25 |
| hyunsikyang | +1 | 08:25 |
| takahashi-tsc | OK, so I think this should be a question or suggestion, not a strong request. And before that, we should check TST010 spec document. | 08:27 |
| yoshito-ito | +1 | 08:28 |
| hyunsikyang | +1 | 08:28 |
| masazumi-ota | +1 | 08:28 |
| takahashi-tsc | Anything else? if no, move to next topic | 08:29 |
| yasufum | go a head please | 08:30 |
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| takahashi-tsc | OK, I'll request to clarify tagging/branch naming policy of api-tests repository. | 08:31 |
| yoshito-ito | +1 | 08:32 |
| takahashi-tsc | This is just required for development to use ROBOT framework, our task. We need to identify the test code set. I would like TST team to define such policy. | 08:32 |
| masazumi-ota | +1 | 08:33 |
| takahashi-tsc | OK, and last is about IOP tests. yoshito-ito thank you for your suggenstion | 08:35 |
| takahashi-tsc | I think this is not about TST010, so I'll not include this topic in TST010 meeting on 30th June. But we need discussion to define our testing policy. | 08:36 |
| takahashi-tsc | Sorry but I do not read the details of TST007 and plugtests test code yet... Anyway I'd like to continue to discuss. | 08:38 |
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| yoshito-ito | IOP test codes in etsi repo seems still under development | 08:40 |
| yoshito-ito | so I agree to put this IOP test topic as our testing policy discussion | 08:41 |
| yoshito-ito | and not to include in the coming TST010 meeeting | 08:41 |
| takahashi-tsc | Sure, thanks. | 08:42 |
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| takahashi-tsc | That's all from me. Any other comments about TST discussion? | 08:42 |
| yasufum | I agree to include IOP in our target | 08:43 |
| yasufum | takahashi-tsc: thanks | 08:43 |
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| yasufum | It seems done all today | 08:46 |
| yasufum | This is for logging. I would like to review EventAlarm from takahashi-tsc, https://review.opendev.org/#/c/700167/ | 08:46 |
| takahashi-tsc | Thanks | 08:47 |
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| yasufum | I would like to close this meeting if nothing remained. | 08:48 |
| yasufum | Thanks for joining, bye | 08:49 |
| masazumi-ota | bye | 08:49 |
| yasufum | #endmeeting | 08:50 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jun 23 08:50:04 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 08:50 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2020/tacker.2020-06-23-08.07.html | 08:50 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2020/tacker.2020-06-23-08.07.txt | 08:50 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2020/tacker.2020-06-23-08.07.log.html | 08:50 |
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| oneswig | #startmeeting scientific-sig | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jun 23 21:00:35 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is oneswig. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'scientific_sig' | 21:00 |
| oneswig | Greetings | 21:01 |
| oneswig | No set agenda for today | 21:01 |
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| b1airo | lurking | 21:02 |
| oneswig | Hey b1airo, how's things | 21:03 |
| oneswig | #chair b1airo | 21:03 |
| openstack | Current chairs: b1airo oneswig | 21:03 |
| b1airo | a bit fuzzy this morning... up a few times with nosebleed dramas - Eva is growing too fast at the moment apparently :-) | 21:04 |
| oneswig | In her sleep? Ouch. | 21:05 |
| oneswig | I was up late but putting together some work stuff. Not much to show for it. | 21:05 |
| b1airo | the joys | 21:06 |
| oneswig | Having fun now though - adding new telemetry sources to a deployment. Watching Elastic and co eat all the RAM in the world. | 21:06 |
| b1airo | i had a colleague from Melbourne get in touch recently regarding GPU P2P in an OpenStack KVM cloud | 21:07 |
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| oneswig | With questions or answers? | 21:08 |
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| b1airo | mainly questions | 21:08 |
| b1airo | he appears to have a 4-way T4 box | 21:08 |
| b1airo | he's working with Aptira. i pointed him in the direction of the experimental GPU clique stuff in KVM and he was going to see if they could try it out | 21:09 |
| b1airo | though who knows if that even works - Google doesn't provide much hope | 21:09 |
| oneswig | There have to be some developments in this area by now... | 21:10 |
| b1airo | and looks like NVIDIA wants you to pay again for the privilege now and do it via GRID/vGPU (which recently got support for P2P by the looks of things) | 21:10 |
| oneswig | It's pretty grunty stuff to get working though. All those layers of indirection in PCI bus addresses. | 21:10 |
| oneswig | Interesting. Got a link to it? | 21:11 |
| b1airo | https://docs.nvidia.com/grid/latest/grid-vgpu-user-guide/index.html | 21:11 |
| b1airo | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/tGKYpyzo/ | 21:12 |
| b1airo | might be some devil in the "ifs" though | 21:13 |
| oneswig | NVlink it says - I was hoping for PCI for generality. | 21:14 |
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| b1airo | yeah, there's that too | 21:14 |
| martial | sorry to be late | 21:14 |
| oneswig | Progress of sorts. | 21:14 |
| oneswig | Hi martial | 21:15 |
| oneswig | #chair martial | 21:15 |
| openstack | Current chairs: b1airo martial oneswig | 21:15 |
| oneswig | What's new with you martial? | 21:15 |
| martial | not much | 21:16 |
| martial | been fighting Tensorflow compilation issues lately :) | 21:16 |
| martial | ie fun times | 21:17 |
| martial | How is the meeting? | 21:18 |
| oneswig | I don't think an agenda was posted so it's pretty quiet :-) | 21:18 |
| martial | ah well :) | 21:19 |
| oneswig | martial: I saw Mike has been active on Kolla-Ansible Ceph this last week | 21:19 |
| martial | indeed, we are trying to design our core installation scripts | 21:19 |
| oneswig | Somewhat interesting Next Platform discussion on Ceph usage at Sandia - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEfZ3FyN0IQ&feature=youtu.be&t=1118 | 21:20 |
| oneswig | martial: watch out, I believe the long-term plan for Kolla-Ansible is to use Ceph-Ansible or CephAdm rather than reinvent that work. | 21:21 |
| martial | will pass along the information | 21:22 |
| oneswig | eg the warning here: https://docs.openstack.org/kolla-ansible/train/reference/storage/ceph-guide.html | 21:22 |
| b1airo | urgh - liberal use of red warning boxes on that page | 21:24 |
| b1airo | still, external looks eassy enough | 21:24 |
| martial | Thank you | 21:24 |
| martial | shared it with him (now just a matter for him to see it :) ) | 21:24 |
| b1airo | i'm afk for 5 to boost caffeine levels, gonna be a long day | 21:24 |
| martial | Caffeine power :) | 21:25 |
| oneswig | how was HPCW, did you participate? | 21:25 |
| martial | I listened in to some of the conversations | 21:26 |
| martial | but I did not present this year | 21:27 |
| martial | it was good and busy | 21:27 |
| martial | the videos are on you tube already | 21:27 |
| martial | and there were quiet a few conversations on slack | 21:27 |
| martial | let me find the link | 21:27 |
| oneswig | I wonder - what counts for busy with online workshops? | 21:27 |
| martial | #link https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLfE3_wJGw9KTx8t6byn5bCWpk4L5bRORY | 21:28 |
| oneswig | I'm wondering how ISC will go next week | 21:28 |
| oneswig | Looks like Christian did a lot of legwork to get all those videos done | 21:29 |
| martial | I know Christian posted a number of views ... looking for it | 21:29 |
| martial | I can not find it (lost in all the slack messages that day) but I remember something in the 70 concurrent viewers | 21:32 |
| oneswig | That's good going I'd say. | 21:33 |
| martial | it was very interesting | 21:34 |
| martial | (wish I could have been there the entire time) | 21:34 |
| martial | Good conversation on Saurus, Buildah and other topics (as last year actually :) ) | 21:35 |
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| oneswig | Not heard of Saurus | 21:36 |
| b1airo | https://sarus.readthedocs.io/en/stable/ | 21:36 |
| oneswig | lmgtfy :-) | 21:37 |
| b1airo | it's CSCS's container engine | 21:37 |
| b1airo | still haven't worked out why they need their own though | 21:38 |
| oneswig | I remember one of the authors was doing a lot with Shifter a couple of years ago. | 21:39 |
| martial | they had a good slide deck that explained the use case (looking for it) | 21:40 |
| martial | it was not posted in the channel it looks like but there is a similar one in the HPC container google drive | 21:41 |
| martial | let me check | 21:41 |
| martial | found a PDF | 21:43 |
| oneswig | martial: What's going on with Singularity? Does it still have good uptake? | 21:44 |
| martial | Christian was running a few live polls, | 21:45 |
| martial | 14 docker / 7 shifter / 10 singularity / 3 sarus / 5 charliecloud / 10 podman / 3 KataContainers / 6 LXC | 21:46 |
| martial | so yes still very much used | 21:46 |
| martial | keep in mind this was an HPC crowd | 21:46 |
| martial | Image building was high on Dockerfile with Docker (10) with distant (3) singularity | 21:47 |
| martial | Christian in particular had a good idea to add to the "machine" type conversation, see https://github.com/opencontainers/image-spec/pull/761 | 21:49 |
| oneswig | What a fascinating split between so many contenders. | 21:49 |
| martial | podman keeps getting higher in popularity | 21:50 |
| martial | easy to understand too .. their tagline is alias docker=podman | 21:50 |
| b1airo | i guess as deployments get it "for free" with RHEL/CENTOS 8 it will continue to get greater uptake | 21:51 |
| martial | Sarus was "push to docker" "deploy to HPC" without any job | 21:53 |
| martial | the link I have was too permissive so I found another PDF | 21:54 |
| martial | #link http://www.hpcadvisorycouncil.com/events/2019/swiss-workshop/pdf/030419/K_Mariotti_CSCS_SARUS_OCI_ContainerRuntime_04032019.pdf | 21:54 |
| martial | no news on Berlin? | 21:55 |
| oneswig | Not that I've heard. At the end of this month there is an OpenDev online conference on infrastructure scaling. Should be interesting | 21:57 |
| martial | got a link? | 21:57 |
| martial | #link https://www.openstack.org/events/opendev-2020/opendev-schedule | 21:58 |
| oneswig | thanks - it's a lousy name because in browser history it hits on so many other things | 21:58 |
| martial | so that is the one? | 21:58 |
| oneswig | yes - I'm going to participate in the Tools session. | 21:59 |
| martial | cool! | 21:59 |
| oneswig | We are nearly out of time... | 22:00 |
| oneswig | final comments? | 22:00 |
| oneswig | thanks for the update on HPCW martial | 22:00 |
| martial | happy to do so | 22:00 |
| oneswig | #endmeeting | 22:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jun 23 22:00:41 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:00 |
| oneswig | Until next time | 22:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_sig/2020/scientific_sig.2020-06-23-21.00.html | 22:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_sig/2020/scientific_sig.2020-06-23-21.00.txt | 22:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_sig/2020/scientific_sig.2020-06-23-21.00.log.html | 22:00 |
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