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| liuyulong | #startmeeting neutron_l3 | 14:02 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed May 27 14:02:51 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is liuyulong. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 14:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_l3' | 14:02 |
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| liuyulong | #topic Announcements | 14:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 14:03 | |
| liuyulong | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/neutron-victoria-ptg | 14:04 |
| liuyulong | Topics are Scheduled ready. | 14:05 |
| liuyulong | All times in the agenda are UTC. | 14:06 |
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| liuyulong | OK, seems I'm in a one person meeting. : ) | 14:08 |
| liuyulong | OK, let's move on. | 14:08 |
| liuyulong | #topic Bugs | 14:09 |
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| liuyulong | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-May/015021.html | 14:11 |
| liuyulong | Most of the L3 bugs in the list were discussed last week. | 14:12 |
| liuyulong | So today I have only one | 14:12 |
| liuyulong | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1880532 | 14:12 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1880532 in neutron "[RFE]L3 Router should support ECMP" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to XiaoYu Zhu (honglan0914) | 14:12 |
| liuyulong | There is a spec has been uploaded to the gerrit. | 14:13 |
| liuyulong | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/729532/ | 14:14 |
| liuyulong | From the spec I can only see the "background", "the problem from that background", "code changes". | 14:16 |
| liuyulong | It missed the important section "the detail of the new approach" | 14:17 |
| liuyulong | why it works? and how it works? | 14:17 |
| liuyulong | And, in other word, this is something like a load balancer upon the Octavia load balancer. | 14:20 |
| liuyulong | And why not add the LB "real server" to the octavia load balancer? | 14:24 |
| liuyulong | One more thing is the route is cross the subnet, so the traffic in the same subnet should not go to the router, so the ECMP is actually not work. | 14:27 |
| liuyulong | So why not add the route directly to the guest client VM? | 14:27 |
| liuyulong | So... basically my opinion is negative, the possible scenarios for this proposal are very limited. | 14:27 |
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| liuyulong | OK, no more bug from me then. | 14:28 |
| liuyulong | Let's move on. | 14:28 |
| liuyulong | #topic On demand agenda | 14:28 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "On demand agenda (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 14:28 | |
| liuyulong | Just wait 1 or 2 minutes... | 14:29 |
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| liuyulong | OK, let's end here. | 14:36 |
| liuyulong | #endmeeting | 14:36 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 14:36 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed May 27 14:36:14 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:36 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2020/neutron_l3.2020-05-27-14.02.html | 14:36 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2020/neutron_l3.2020-05-27-14.02.txt | 14:36 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2020/neutron_l3.2020-05-27-14.02.log.html | 14:36 |
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| timburke | #startmeeting swift | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed May 27 21:00:14 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is timburke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: swift)" | 21:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'swift' | 21:00 |
| timburke | who's here for the swift meeting? | 21:00 |
| alecuyer | hello! | 21:00 |
| seongsoocho | o/ | 21:00 |
| mattoliverau | o/ | 21:00 |
| tdasilva | hi | 21:00 |
| kota_ | hi | 21:01 |
| clayg | o/ | 21:01 |
| timburke | as usual, the meeting agenda's at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Swift | 21:02 |
| timburke | #topic PTG | 21:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "PTG (Meeting topic: swift)" | 21:02 | |
| timburke | it's next week! | 21:02 |
| clayg | 🤯 | 21:02 |
| timburke | we've got time booked for a zoom room, though it looks like we could also use https://meetpad.opendev.org/swift-ptg-victoria whenever without needing to worry about scheduling conflicts | 21:03 |
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| mattoliverau | Cool | 21:04 |
| timburke | it there are any other topics we ought to discuss, write them down on the etherpad | 21:04 |
| timburke | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/swift-ptg-victoria | 21:04 |
| timburke | i'm looking forward to seeing everyone, even remotely :-) | 21:05 |
| alecuyer | yeah :) | 21:05 |
| kota_ | :D | 21:05 |
| timburke | #topic more tests in swift-dsvm jobs | 21:06 |
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| timburke | so i've been playing with our gate tests a bit lately | 21:06 |
| timburke | and i've managed to get the number of skips down from like 350 to 20 | 21:07 |
| clayg | timburke: nice work! | 21:08 |
| timburke | but i've got a question: does anyone actually want to bother reviewing that? or should i just go ahead and self-approve as things get to passing? | 21:08 |
| timburke | (still using good judgment, of course; if something seems to be getting out of hand, i'll raise a flag and ask for review) | 21:09 |
| clayg | 🤔 | 21:09 |
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| clayg | land that shit! | 21:12 |
| tdasilva | i'm ok with self-approve, but also feel free to ping me if you want a double-check of a patch | 21:12 |
| mattoliverau | It's testing code and your making it better, I say for now land it :) | 21:12 |
| mattoliverau | If it starts making the gate fail then we can rethink | 21:13 |
| timburke | fwiw, the long-term goal is for us to be able to drop some of the func test variations -- it seems silly to run a whole other job just to check that staticweb works, for example, when we could do it all at once *and* verify that it works with keystone | 21:13 |
| timburke | the main variations we'd want to keep (i think) would be more backend-focused: replica vs ec, encrypted vs not, py2 vs py3 | 21:14 |
| timburke | ok, sounds like people are generally on board with landing them and making our testing better :-) | 21:15 |
| timburke | #topic py2 and dsvm | 21:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "py2 and dsvm (Meeting topic: swift)" | 21:16 | |
| timburke | speaking of the dsvm job... | 21:16 |
| timburke | i just realized that our py2/py3 dsvm variations stopped being different | 21:16 |
| timburke | i proposed https://review.opendev.org/#/c/731318/ to drop it down to just ipv6 vs not | 21:17 |
| patchbot | patch 731318 - swift - Remove swift-dsvm-functional-py3 job - 1 patch set | 21:17 |
| timburke | devstack dropped support for installing packages on py2 back in https://github.com/openstack/devstack/commit/6b6bdc711 | 21:17 |
| timburke | (so, october) | 21:18 |
| kota_ | wow | 21:19 |
| clayg | nice catch | 21:19 |
| timburke | the question is: do we care? do we want to invest in maintaining a gate job that runs swift under py2 and keystone under py3? | 21:19 |
| clayg | ouch - that's a tough one | 21:20 |
| clayg | to be clear we're talking about doing work to get back something we lost in October and haven't noticed till now | 21:20 |
| clayg | did we notice because something broke? | 21:20 |
| timburke | or do we say, "to the best of our knowledge, this still works -- we'll fix bugs you report if it doesn't" ? | 21:20 |
| timburke | swift on py2 should certainly still get tested, of course -- but the interaction with keystone hasn't been exercised for a while now | 21:21 |
| clayg | aka "keep doing what's already happening; but on purpose" | 21:21 |
| clayg | oic, the dsvm job is specific to keystone - that's significant | 21:21 |
| clayg | and we ARE testing py3 swift + keystone 🤔 | 21:21 |
| timburke | clayg, no, i noticed it (or rather, takashi pointed it out) while i was trying to get a comparable configuration going for storlets | 21:21 |
| clayg | and shops that are deploying modern keystone are already running some kind of py3? like... does keystone still test with py2 (like we do; just not in dsvm jobs) | 21:22 |
| clarkb | clayg: no I don't think it does | 21:22 |
| timburke | and of course, i'd expect it to *not work on py2* in the very near future | 21:23 |
| clayg | timburke: and we wouldn't be able to test a "swift + keystone on py2" setup - it'd be "py3 and keystone; but somehow still swift on py2" | 21:23 |
| timburke | yup | 21:23 |
| timburke | similar to what we used to be able to do with devstack | 21:23 |
| clayg | ok, i'm pretty sure I'm advocating for not trying to | 21:23 |
| timburke | tho... maybe we could do everybody on py2 if we took keystone from a stable branch... 🤔 | 21:24 |
| clayg | that might be a more reasonable scenario to test - but also possibly still low value | 21:24 |
| clayg | shops that are having a hard time getting off py2 (like us!) are probably already pretty leary of upgrades as projects are dropping py2 support | 21:25 |
| timburke | kota_, alecuyer, mattoliverau, rledisez what are your thoughts? i feel like clayg and i will be very easily convinced to just drop it ;-) | 21:29 |
| clayg | i hate coming down on the side of "do the work" unless i'm going to do the work - i'm not going to do the work in this case | 21:29 |
| alecuyer | timburke: I think that sounds reasonable | 21:30 |
| clayg | alecuyer: fwiw, aren't you guys on py2 + keystone? | 21:30 |
| alecuyer | we are | 21:30 |
| kota_ | reasonable | 21:30 |
| alecuyer | But I think the plan is to switch to py3 for both in a short window | 21:31 |
| mattoliverau | I'm leaning on the side of dropping as every distro tends to be dropping py2 anyway. ie focus on py3 and make sure that's working. But can understand legecy users. | 21:31 |
| mattoliverau | happy to have it to support OVH and swiftstack/nvidia users tho. | 21:31 |
| timburke | all right. sounds like we'll let it go, then | 21:32 |
| timburke | alecuyer, that reminds me, we still need to address https://bugs.launchpad.net/swift/+bug/1872553 :-( | 21:32 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1872553 in OpenStack Object Storage (swift) "fallocate_reserve is still broken on py3" [Undecided,New] | 21:32 |
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| alecuyer | ohh right the fallocate % :/ | 21:33 |
| timburke | something we can hack on next week ;-) | 21:34 |
| alecuyer | yes :) | 21:34 |
| timburke | that's all i had | 21:34 |
| timburke | #topic lots of small files | 21:34 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "lots of small files (Meeting topic: swift)" | 21:34 | |
| timburke | alecuyer, i saw another patchset for the new key format! | 21:34 |
| alecuyer | Yes it's going slowly :/ So I have no real news, but that slow progress is for lack of time, and we will keep working on it, we will need that for future hardware | 21:35 |
| timburke | got it, no worries | 21:36 |
| timburke | #topic open discussion | 21:36 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: swift)" | 21:36 | |
| timburke | what else should we talk about today? | 21:37 |
| timburke | no normal meeting next week, for obvious reasons | 21:37 |
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| timburke | all right, let's let kota_, mattoliverau, and seongsoocho start their morning ;-) | 21:40 |
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| timburke | thank you all for coming, and thank you for working on swift! | 21:40 |
| kota_ | thx | 21:40 |
| alecuyer | thanks tim | 21:40 |
| seongsoocho | see u next week! | 21:40 |
| timburke | \o/ | 21:40 |
| timburke | #endmeeting | 21:40 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 21:40 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed May 27 21:40:38 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:40 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2020/swift.2020-05-27-21.00.html | 21:40 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2020/swift.2020-05-27-21.00.txt | 21:40 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2020/swift.2020-05-27-21.00.log.html | 21:40 |
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