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| slaweq | #startmeeting neutron_drivers | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Fri Apr 24 14:00:21 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is slaweq. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_drivers)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_drivers' | 14:00 |
| mlavalle | o/ | 14:00 |
| njohnston | o/ | 14:00 |
| yamamoto | hi | 14:00 |
| slaweq | Good Morning/Afternoon/Evening :) | 14:00 |
| haleyb | hi | 14:00 |
| slaweq | before we start, short announcement | 14:01 |
| slaweq | today ussuri-rc1 was releases for neutron | 14:01 |
| slaweq | so we have stable/ussuri branches created already | 14:02 |
| slaweq | if we will need anything to get there before GA, we will have to backport | 14:02 |
| slaweq | end of announcement :) | 14:02 |
| slaweq | let's wait 2-3 more minutes for amotoki | 14:03 |
| slaweq | and we will start | 14:03 |
| ralonsoh | hi | 14:04 |
| slaweq | ok, lets start | 14:05 |
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| slaweq | #topic RFEs | 14:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "RFEs (Meeting topic: neutron_drivers)" | 14:05 | |
| slaweq | we have one RFE for today | 14:05 |
| slaweq | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1616208 | 14:05 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1616208 in neutron "[RFE] Support creating a subnet without an allocation pool" [Wishlist,Confirmed] | 14:05 |
| slaweq | it's an old rfe but seems that it's still not implemented, and owner of it is still interested in doing that | 14:06 |
| mlavalle | is he going to implement it? | 14:07 |
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| slaweq | mlavalle: I know only as much as is in his last comment | 14:07 |
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| slaweq | but if he don't have time to implement that, I can spend some time on it if needed | 14:08 |
| slaweq | it seems for me that this is pretty simple modification of our API | 14:09 |
| slaweq | as Neutron already supports empty allocation pools if You will do PUT to remove any pool which was created for subnet | 14:10 |
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| * haleyb wonders if he was disconnected | 14:18 | |
| mlavalle | who, slaweq ? | 14:18 |
| ralonsoh | I thought the same | 14:18 |
| haleyb | it's just been 8 minutes | 14:18 |
| slaweq | no, I'm still here | 14:18 |
| slaweq | but I'm waiting for any responses to what I wrote :) | 14:19 |
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| haleyb | the API supports an [] so i'm ok with the change to the client, and i guess whatever fallout there is where the server code isn't expecting it maybe | 14:20 |
| njohnston | I have no problem with this | 14:21 |
| slaweq | haleyb: we will need to add some tempest tests to cover that but I think it shouldn't be really an issue :) | 14:21 |
| haleyb | slaweq: sounds good to me | 14:22 |
| ralonsoh | (now we can create a subnet /31 --> this won't create an allocation pool, but then will fail assigning an IP) | 14:22 |
| slaweq | ralonsoh: but I think the issue of this failure is slightly different than what this rfe is trying to solve/change | 14:23 |
| ralonsoh | yes, agree | 14:23 |
| slaweq | and IIRC bcafarel was going to report and fix issue with /31 subnets | 14:24 |
| mlavalle | I am also ok with it | 14:26 |
| bcafarel | actually there is already old bug about it https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1580927 | 14:26 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1580927 in neutron "spans beyond the subnet reported incorrectly in ipam" [Low,In progress] - Assigned to Tyler Britten (9-me-9) | 14:26 |
| ralonsoh | welcome to Mitaka cycle! | 14:27 |
| bcafarel | currently there is no allocation pool for /31 as they are not properly handled in code (fun fact /32 have one properly filled) | 14:27 |
| bcafarel | back to the future :) | 14:27 |
| slaweq | :) | 14:27 |
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| slaweq | yamamoto: any thoughts about such API/client change to allow None or [] as allocation pool for subnets in POST? | 14:28 |
| yamamoto | [] has a different meaning already, doesn't it? | 14:29 |
| slaweq | I think so, that why I said None or [] because it has to be checked to be sure | 14:29 |
| slaweq | but probably we will need to use None as new value | 14:30 |
| yamamoto | i'm fine with the rfe as far as the api change will be backward compatible | 14:30 |
| slaweq | ok | 14:30 |
| slaweq | thx | 14:30 |
| yamamoto | i guess the no_allocation_pools approach in the proposed patch is safer | 14:30 |
| slaweq | but that's for client's side, right? | 14:31 |
| mlavalle | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/433234/ | 14:31 |
| ralonsoh | so the idea is to add a new attribute? no_allocation_pools | 14:35 |
| ralonsoh | is that the idea? | 14:35 |
| ralonsoh | and in the DB | 14:35 |
| slaweq | I'm not sure if that is something what we really need | 14:36 |
| slaweq | and for sure not for PUT | 14:36 |
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| slaweq | as this should IMO just tell server to not create allocation pool for subnet at all | 14:36 |
| slaweq | in PUT You can already do that by sending [] in allocation_pool IIUC comments to this RFE | 14:37 |
| haleyb | https://docs.openstack.org/api-ref/network/v2/?expanded=create-subnet-detail#subnets says "allocation_pools (Optional)" | 14:38 |
| slaweq | haleyb: yes | 14:38 |
| slaweq | and docs says "If allocation_pools are not specified, OpenStack Networking automatically allocates pools for covering all IP addresses in the CIDR" | 14:38 |
| slaweq | IIUC this rfe is about adding some option to tell neutron-server "don't create this pool with whole CIDR" | 14:39 |
| haleyb | ah, right, the API doesn't know we don't want that even when passing [] I guess? | 14:40 |
| slaweq | that's my understanding of this RFE at least | 14:41 |
| haleyb | although "not specified" != [] | 14:41 |
| slaweq | yes, I just tried | 14:44 |
| slaweq | http://paste.openstack.org/show/792669/ | 14:45 |
| slaweq | and when I sent None as "allocation_pools" I got error BadRequest | 14:46 |
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| slaweq | so are we all fine to add possibility to send None as allocation_pools in POST to tell neutron to not create any allocation pool for this subnet? | 14:48 |
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| slaweq | IMO that's the main goal of this RFE | 14:49 |
| yamamoto | do you mean null? | 14:49 |
| njohnston | yes I am good with that | 14:50 |
| haleyb | is it None or [] ? since a PUT with [] works i would think the POST with it should do the same thing? | 14:50 |
| slaweq | yamamoto: yes | 14:50 |
| njohnston | +1 for null | 14:51 |
| slaweq | haleyb: but changing to [] to not create any pool wouldn't be backward compatible | 14:51 |
| slaweq | so I think that we should left it as it is now | 14:51 |
| slaweq | and add null to explicity say "I don't want allocation pools" | 14:51 |
| njohnston | right | 14:52 |
| yamamoto | i'm ok with either ways (null or a new attribute) | 14:52 |
| haleyb | i get it, just stinks that being explicit with [] doesn't work, but saying null gets you [] | 14:53 |
| slaweq | haleyb: I see Your point | 14:53 |
| slaweq | and it would be better to do it Your way | 14:53 |
| slaweq | but we have to be backward compatible :/ | 14:54 |
| haleyb | but then we break backwards-compat? | 14:54 |
| ralonsoh | haleyb, agree but we should keep [] current behaviour, I think so | 14:54 |
| mlavalle | yes | 14:54 |
| haleyb | who wants api/v3, we can fix all the bugz :) | 14:55 |
| ralonsoh | hehehe | 14:55 |
| slaweq | haleyb: :) | 14:55 |
| slaweq | or microversioning :P | 14:56 |
| haleyb | i'm fine will null, it just gets back at last week's meeting where the info on the POST != the info on the GET wrt security groups | 14:56 |
| haleyb | so +1 from me since we're running out of time | 14:57 |
| njohnston | +1 | 14:58 |
| ralonsoh | +1 to null | 14:58 |
| slaweq | mlavalle: You ok with it too? | 14:58 |
| mlavalle | yes | 14:59 |
| slaweq | ok, thx for all comments | 14:59 |
| slaweq | I will mark this RFE as approved | 14:59 |
| slaweq | have a great weekend | 14:59 |
| mlavalle | o/ | 14:59 |
| slaweq | and see You all next week | 14:59 |
| njohnston | o/ | 14:59 |
| slaweq | ahh, one thing | 14:59 |
| slaweq | next week is 1st of May and it's public holiday in Poland | 14:59 |
| slaweq | so I'm going to cancel this meeting | 15:00 |
| slaweq | see You in 2 weeks on drivers meeting than :) | 15:00 |
| slaweq | *then | 15:00 |
| ralonsoh | see you then! | 15:00 |
| slaweq | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Fri Apr 24 15:00:28 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2020/neutron_drivers.2020-04-24-14.00.html | 15:00 |
| slaweq | o/ | 15:00 |
| yamamoto | good night | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2020/neutron_drivers.2020-04-24-14.00.txt | 15:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2020/neutron_drivers.2020-04-24-14.00.log.html | 15:00 |
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