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| ricolin | multi-arch SIG meeting in 25 mins at #openstack-meeting-alt, feel free to add agenda:) https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Multi-Arch-agenda | 07:35 |
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| dkushwaha | #startmeeting tacker | 08:05 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 31 08:05:29 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dkushwaha. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:05 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 08:05 |
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| dkushwaha | #topic Roll Call | 08:05 |
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| tpatil | Hi | 08:05 |
| keiko-k | Hello | 08:06 |
| dkushwaha | hello all | 08:06 |
| hyunsikyang | Hi | 08:07 |
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| dkushwaha | Today, i have nothing to discuss from my side, but just an announcement. | 08:11 |
| dkushwaha | #topic announcement | 08:11 |
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| dkushwaha | With all of team support, I served as PTL for 3 cycles. But now as you knows, my employer is changed and roadmap too, so I am stepping down from PTL role now | 08:12 |
| dkushwaha | I would like thanks to all of you, I Learnt alot in this team. | 08:13 |
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| tpatil | dkushwaha: We will miss you as PTL. Will you still part of OpenStack community? | 08:15 |
| dkushwaha | I will be still contributing in Tacker community in my available time | 08:15 |
| hyunsikyang | oh.. | 08:15 |
| dkushwaha | #topic OpenDiscussion | 08:18 |
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| hyunsikyang | nothing from my side except my review things. When is the dead line of this cycle? | 08:19 |
| dkushwaha | hyunsikyang could yopu please resolve your merge conflicts | 08:19 |
| hyunsikyang | Ah I didn't check it. I will fix it ASAP. | 08:20 |
| dkushwaha | hyunsikyang thanks | 08:22 |
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| tpatil | We have started fixing review comments given on patches : https://review.opendev.org/#/q/topic:bp/support-etsi-nfv-specs+(status:open+OR+status:merged) | 08:24 |
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| tpatil | I have requested heat-translator team to review and merge patch : https://review.opendev.org/#/c/714026 | 08:25 |
| tpatil | Already received one _2, need another one. | 08:26 |
| dkushwaha | tpatil. yea, i see. Hope to get merge it soon | 08:26 |
| dkushwaha | we have to merge client patches soon, as they thave to release first | 08:28 |
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| tpatil | dkushwaha: Today I have addressed your comments and saw your +2, thank you. | 08:28 |
| tpatil | dkushwaha: on patch: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/707833/ | 08:29 |
| tpatil | We are going to push one last patch today in python-tackerclient to support filtering of vnf packages. | 08:30 |
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| dkushwaha | tpatil does it comes under bp/support-etsi-nfv-specs ? | 08:31 |
| tpatil | dkushwaha: No, it's bp/enhance-vnf-package-support-part1 | 08:32 |
| dkushwaha | i see | 08:32 |
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| tpatil | talking about python-tackerclient: total of 4 patches for bp/enhance-vnf-package-support-part1 and 5 for bp/support-etsi-nfv-specs | 08:33 |
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| tpatil | We will address review comments if any on top priority so that we can merge all these patches before the final release schedule | 08:34 |
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| dkushwaha | tpatil, all, could you review and if ok give your +1 there, i will merge those patches. | 08:36 |
| dkushwaha | IMO, this is the way we can get merge it fastly | 08:38 |
| tpatil | dkushwaha: Agree. I will review it at my side as well | 08:39 |
| dkushwaha | tpatil it will be great help. thanks | 08:40 |
| dkushwaha | ok, if nothing have to discuss. Lets close this meeting | 08:42 |
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| dkushwaha | Thanks Folks.. | 08:44 |
| dkushwaha | Closing it now | 08:44 |
| dkushwaha | #endmeeting | 08:44 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 31 08:44:38 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 08:44 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2020/tacker.2020-03-31-08.05.html | 08:44 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2020/tacker.2020-03-31-08.05.txt | 08:44 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2020/tacker.2020-03-31-08.05.log.html | 08:44 |
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| ricolin | automation SIG meeting in 30 mins at #openstack-meeting. Feel free to join https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Automation-meetings | 13:31 |
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| ricolin | #startmeeting automation | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 31 14:00:07 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ricolin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: automation)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'automation' | 14:00 |
| ricolin | #topic roll call | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "roll call (Meeting topic: automation)" | 14:00 | |
| ricolin | o/ | 14:00 |
| ricolin | hope everyone is safe and stay home:) | 14:00 |
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| ricolin | been a crazy weeks, assume people needs to handle some more private stuff than usual | 14:02 |
| witek | hi ricolin | 14:02 |
| witek | I'm a part-time teacher meanwhile :) | 14:03 |
| ricolin | witek, hi! | 14:08 |
| ricolin | witek, teach what?:) | 14:08 |
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| witek | everything, my kids don't go to school and should learn remote | 14:09 |
| ricolin | right! | 14:09 |
| ricolin | how's live there | 14:09 |
| witek | it's OK, we've got the lockdown for over a week now | 14:10 |
| witek | schools have been closed for 2 weeks now | 14:11 |
| ricolin | any signs show getting better in Munich? | 14:11 |
| witek | I think the infection rate slows down a little | 14:12 |
| ricolin | good to know | 14:13 |
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| ricolin | witek, regarding the autoscaling job, I think I make some mistake in the heat-tempest-plugin patch, which uses wrong script to add pressure to CPU loading | 14:15 |
| ricolin | I have some time earlier to check on logs, and do some adjust on test, and found the scenario is not working | 14:16 |
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| ricolin | I will schedule some time later to fix the hot script, but can't find time in these few days:/ | 14:16 |
| witek | is it just user_data which is wrong? | 14:17 |
| ricolin | That's what I assume | 14:18 |
| ricolin | I need to build my local environment to test that script | 14:18 |
| witek | thanks ricolin for your involvement on that | 14:20 |
| ricolin | hope we can make it happen before vPTG | 14:21 |
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| ricolin | #topic open discussion | 14:22 |
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| ricolin | and talk about which | 14:22 |
| ricolin | do you think automation SIG should join? | 14:22 |
| ricolin | VPTG | 14:22 |
| witek | there was always some attention to this SIG sessions, apart from the last one | 14:24 |
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| ricolin | witek, I'm thinking we need more attention from projects which might interest on automation and also ops and users | 14:26 |
| ricolin | if we would like to join VPTG, those are some factors we need to achieve first | 14:26 |
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| ricolin | To ask people to be there if they're interest on some relate stuff | 14:27 |
| witek | agree, it would be good to have input from interested participants before the PTG | 14:28 |
| ricolin | I will create action so we can achieve something first as preparation for VPTG | 14:29 |
| ricolin | also, maybe we can host maybe 2-4 hours session | 14:30 |
| ricolin | includes BoF and feedback | 14:31 |
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| witek | should be enough | 14:31 |
| ricolin | #action create storyboard task for track tasks for prepare VPTG | 14:32 |
| ricolin | #action ricolin create storyboard task for track tasks for prepare VPTG | 14:32 |
| ricolin | Will share more VPTG info. after the VPTG meeting this week | 14:33 |
| ricolin | Anything else you think we should include for VPTG? | 14:33 |
| witek | VPTG meeting? | 14:33 |
| witek | I think I missed that | 14:33 |
| ricolin | it's on 4/2 | 14:34 |
| * ricolin finding link | 14:34 | |
| ricolin | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-March/013699.html | 14:35 |
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| witek | thanks | 14:36 |
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| ricolin | it's some meeting that everyone can join IIUC | 14:37 |
| witek | so that's the kick-off meeting for vPTG planning, right? | 14:37 |
| witek | thanks for sharing again, I missed it | 14:38 |
| ricolin | yes | 14:38 |
| ricolin | MP | 14:38 |
| ricolin | NP | 14:39 |
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| ricolin | I think that's all from me | 14:40 |
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| witek | I don't have anything | 14:40 |
| witek | thanks ricolin | 14:41 |
| ricolin | not really, you have kids to educate:) | 14:41 |
| witek | :) | 14:41 |
| ricolin | and don't just teach coding:) | 14:41 |
| witek | that would be cool actually.. :) | 14:41 |
| ricolin | what about art class?:) | 14:42 |
| witek | that's my wife's part :) | 14:43 |
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| ricolin | haha | 14:45 |
| ricolin | Okay, I think we all done for now, let's end this meeting:) | 14:45 |
| ricolin | witek, thanks for join:) | 14:45 |
| ricolin | #endmeeting | 14:46 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 14:46 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 31 14:46:00 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:46 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/automation/2020/automation.2020-03-31-14.00.html | 14:46 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/automation/2020/automation.2020-03-31-14.00.txt | 14:46 |
| witek | stay safe, bye | 14:46 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/automation/2020/automation.2020-03-31-14.00.log.html | 14:46 |
| ricolin | stay safe! | 14:46 |
| ricolin | Multi-Arch SIG meeting in 12 mins at #openstack-meeting, feel free to add agenda:) https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Multi-Arch-agenda | 14:49 |
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| ricolin | #startmeeting multi_arch | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 31 15:00:43 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ricolin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'multi_arch' | 15:00 |
| jeremyfreudberg | o/ | 15:00 |
| ricolin | #topic roll call | 15:00 |
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| ricolin | o/ | 15:00 |
| jeremyfreudberg | o/ | 15:00 |
| ricolin | jeremyfreudberg, how's everything there | 15:01 |
| jeremyfreudberg | ricolin: it's manageable. we can go outside and go to gorcery store, not much else. seems like number of cases is not too extreme (yet) | 15:02 |
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| ricolin | do hope the number can clime down | 15:03 |
| jeremyfreudberg | hope so | 15:03 |
| ricolin | assume no much change in your works? Since it's mostly WFH | 15:04 |
| jeremyfreudberg | yeah wfh is not much change for me | 15:04 |
| ricolin | cool | 15:05 |
| jeremyfreudberg | i used to go to office sometimes, now i go never, but i am good at wfh | 15:05 |
| ricolin | +1 | 15:05 |
| rh-jelabarre | o/ | 15:06 |
| jeremyfreudberg | hey rh-jelabarre | 15:06 |
| ricolin | Something I think you should be aware of, that we planning the VPTG from earlier meeting | 15:06 |
| jeremyfreudberg | ricolin: yeah i was skimming logs from earlier meeting | 15:06 |
| ricolin | The idea for now is 2-4 hours a day, and two days with a gap day | 15:06 |
| ricolin | rh-jelabarre, Hi!:) | 15:06 |
| jeremyfreudberg | ricolin: that sounds good. | 15:07 |
| rh-jelabarre | seeing as Westford is 4 or so hours away, would be a difficult commute for me | 15:07 |
| jeremyfreudberg | rh-jelabarre: i wouldn't do it now, but you could always hang out in the former coreos office in NYC :) maybe in a couple years when this is over | 15:08 |
| rh-jelabarre | Mahwah NJ is actually quicker for me to get to than any RH NYC office | 15:09 |
| jeremyfreudberg | that's understandable | 15:09 |
| jeremyfreudberg | ricolin: do you have any quesitons for us about vptg planning ocnsideratoins? | 15:09 |
| ricolin | rh-jelabarre, hope you mostly stay home:/ | 15:10 |
| ricolin | jeremyfreudberg, would like to have feedback from you guys regarding what should we put in to VPTG | 15:11 |
| ricolin | thinking we should have Bof, onboarding, user feedback. and Some hacking on the second day | 15:12 |
| ricolin | jeremyfreudberg, rh-jelabarre what else you guys think we should add in? | 15:12 |
| ricolin | FYI VPTG init planning meeting will host on 4/2, so will provide more information after that | 15:12 |
| jeremyfreudberg | i think those four categories basically cover it | 15:14 |
| ricolin | Also any idea that we should host this VPTG?:) | 15:14 |
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| ricolin | jeremyfreudberg, also as mentioned in previous meeting, we should also work on promote our VPTG to users, ops, and devs before it happens | 15:16 |
| ricolin | as that's what SIG is about | 15:16 |
| ricolin | "a bridge" | 15:16 |
| ricolin | IMOP | 15:16 |
| ricolin | *IMO | 15:16 |
| jeremyfreudberg | yeah, i agree, we need to variety of participants | 15:17 |
| jeremyfreudberg | *we need variety of participants | 15:17 |
| ricolin | Also we will talk in more detail for the schedule next month:) | 15:17 |
| ricolin | jeremyfreudberg, ture! | 15:17 |
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| jeremyfreudberg | ricolin: are you attending only april 2 or will you attend multiple vptg planning meetings? | 15:18 |
| ricolin | I don't think it's possible for me to join the 1700 UTC meeting | 15:18 |
| ricolin | perhaps any of you could? | 15:19 |
| jeremyfreudberg | ricolin: yeah i will definitely attend 1700utc april 6 | 15:19 |
| jeremyfreudberg | ricolin: i guess you will cover 2utc april 7? | 15:19 |
| ricolin | April 6th at 17:00 UTC | 15:19 |
| ricolin | yes | 15:19 |
| jeremyfreudberg | cool | 15:19 |
| ricolin | jeremyfreudberg, that's good idea, we should have someone to cover meetings in case we missing anything | 15:20 |
| ricolin | IMO SIG needs to avoid overlap with multiple projects | 15:20 |
| ricolin | Also need better promotion | 15:20 |
| jeremyfreudberg | i agree | 15:21 |
| ricolin | we got to be care of those part | 15:21 |
| ricolin | #action ricolin and jeremyfreudberg will help to attend VPTG planning meeting to make sure SIG stay up-to dated | 15:22 |
| jeremyfreudberg | cool | 15:22 |
| jeremyfreudberg | ricolin: do oyu have other topics for today | 15:22 |
| jeremyfreudberg | personally i have not yet worked on the docs, i konw it has been a long time, i will do it "soon" | 15:22 |
| ricolin | We have discuss about CI in previous meeting, so unless there's something from you, I think we already got all logs we needed | 15:23 |
| ricolin | also docs as you just mentioned:) | 15:23 |
| jeremyfreudberg | yup, i don't have anything to say about CI | 15:23 |
| ricolin | jeremyfreudberg, thanks for jump in for docs | 15:23 |
| jeremyfreudberg | np | 15:24 |
| ricolin | If we can have some docs ready before VPTG, it will definitely help the Bof+onboarding | 15:24 |
| jeremyfreudberg | ricolin: good point! | 15:24 |
| ricolin | jeremyfreudberg, rh-jelabarre Anything else we should cover in this meeting?:) | 15:26 |
| rh-jelabarre | not that I know of | 15:26 |
| jeremyfreudberg | nothing from me | 15:26 |
| ricolin | Okay, than we can end this meeting now:) | 15:27 |
| jeremyfreudberg | thank you ricolin ! | 15:27 |
| ricolin | rh-jelabarre, jeremyfreudberg thanks for join this meeting | 15:27 |
| ricolin | and stay safe | 15:27 |
| ricolin | #endmeeting | 15:27 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 31 15:27:39 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:27 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/multi_arch/2020/multi_arch.2020-03-31-15.00.html | 15:27 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/multi_arch/2020/multi_arch.2020-03-31-15.00.txt | 15:27 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/multi_arch/2020/multi_arch.2020-03-31-15.00.log.html | 15:27 |
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| clarkb | anyone else here for the infra meeting? | 19:01 |
| clarkb | we'll get started just as soon as I can context switch | 19:01 |
| clarkb | #startmeeting infra | 19:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 31 19:01:23 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is clarkb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'infra' | 19:01 |
| clarkb | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-infra/2020-March/006616.html Our Agenda | 19:01 |
| AJaeger | o/ | 19:01 |
| ianw | o/ | 19:02 |
| clarkb | #topic Announcements | 19:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:02 | |
| clarkb | no new announcements this week | 19:02 |
| clarkb | #topic Actions from last meeting | 19:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Actions from last meeting (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:02 | |
| fungi | osf "community meeting" conference call tomorrow | 19:02 |
| fungi | er, thursday | 19:03 |
| clarkb | #undo | 19:03 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: #topic Actions from last meeting | 19:03 |
| * fungi can't remember what day of the week it is at the best of times | 19:03 | |
| clarkb | fungi: thats the high level overview one right? then the one where meetpad is particularly relevant is april 2, 4 6? /me looks for that email | 19:03 |
| fungi | yeah | 19:03 |
| clarkb | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-March/013699.html | 19:04 |
| clarkb | 2, 6, 7 for time zone coverage on PTG brainstorming | 19:04 |
| clarkb | details in that email (which was sent broadly | 19:04 |
| clarkb | #topic Actions from last meeting | 19:05 |
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| clarkb | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2020/infra.2020-03-24-19.01.txt minutes from last meeting | 19:05 |
| clarkb | fungi took actions to create the new opendev meeting channel and a service-discuss mailing list | 19:05 |
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| clarkb | those changes are up for review at gerrit topic:opendev-comms | 19:05 |
| AJaeger | thanks, fungi! | 19:05 |
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| fungi | the bikeshed decisions there were to call the new ml "service-discuss" and the new irc channel "opendev-meeting" | 19:06 |
| fungi | and also whether to include statusbot in the new irc channel | 19:06 |
| clarkb | and we've got a topic a bit later to discuss what that means for the future of this meeting (as well as other things) | 19:06 |
| fungi | it might fight with meetbot over channel topics, but i expect our uses of the two won't overlap sufficiently in there for it to become an issue | 19:07 |
| clarkb | ya I expect it will be fine and if the topic gets out of sync many channel lurkers will be able to update it | 19:07 |
| AJaeger | so, opendev-meeting is only us - not a public place like #openstack-meeting? | 19:07 |
| mordred | o/ | 19:08 |
| clarkb | AJaeger: its public in that anyone can join but the topic/theme of the channel will be focused on opendev meetings and incident management | 19:08 |
| clarkb | AJaeger: it won't host arbitrary meetings | 19:08 |
| corvus | do we think there might be a desire for a general meeting channel? | 19:09 |
| clarkb | it seems that more and more projects are choosing to host meetings in their own channels | 19:09 |
| corvus | maybe we just wait until someone asks if they can use it, and otherwise don't worry about it? :) | 19:09 |
| fungi | it seems like even in openstack the desire for a central meeting channel has faded | 19:09 |
| AJaeger | clarkb: ok, we're on the same page - then, another name might be better since it's a different policy than #openstack-meeting | 19:09 |
| clarkb | corvus: ya thats what I am thinking | 19:09 |
| * fungi is happy to update those changes if someone has a better name, but maybe we can talk about it during the corresponding meeting topic | 19:10 | |
| clarkb | ya lets continue | 19:10 |
| clarkb | #topic Specs approval | 19:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Specs approval (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:10 | |
| clarkb | we landed the meetpad spec and work there has progressed! | 19:10 |
| clarkb | I wanted to call out the xwiki spec had a merge conflict as a result and could use some trivial reacks (though I think I'm comfortable approving it without those if people don't want to double check the erbase) | 19:11 |
| clarkb | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/710057/ xwiki for wikis | 19:11 |
| clarkb | mostly just a heads up there that a new ps has arrived and votes weren't preserved, but I'd like to not hold that back for too long | 19:12 |
| clarkb | #topic Priority Efforts | 19:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Priority Efforts (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:12 | |
| clarkb | #topic Update Config Management | 19:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Update Config Management (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:12 | |
| clarkb | There are exciting updates to our gerrit with docker changes | 19:12 |
| mordred | heck yes | 19:12 |
| clarkb | mordred: ^ would you like to fill us in? | 19:12 |
| * diablo_rojo sneaks in late | 19:13 | |
| mordred | manage-projects is now mostly working (there's one recent glitch- but we think that was related to a weird manual run) | 19:13 |
| mordred | but ... | 19:13 |
| mordred | drumroll | 19:13 |
| mordred | we're now triggering manage-projects with zuul and not from cron! | 19:13 |
| corvus | \o/ | 19:13 |
| mordred | which means project-config changes for project creation will get applied immediately | 19:13 |
| clarkb | ya we've seen ~2 repos be weird, but possibly they are just side effects from when things were broken | 19:14 |
| mordred | and - it's showing that our structure for doing infra-root playbooks works - so we shoudl be able to peel off the rest of run_all in pretty short order | 19:14 |
| clarkb | we should fix them (probably manually after reading jeepyb) then continue to monitor subsequent things | 19:14 |
| mordred | yeah- we're also going to have web-accessible logs - so people should be able to see when something is being weird | 19:14 |
| mordred | I agree - I think they are manual pushes | 19:14 |
| mordred | but we should start actually seeing logs from project creation on the promote job on the p-c patch - so we should know when stuff goes poorly | 19:15 |
| clarkb | ++ | 19:15 |
| fungi | once that patch also lands, right? | 19:15 |
| mordred | in fact- once this is solid ...we might want to have jeepyb start exiting 1 | 19:15 |
| clarkb | another thing we should probably call out is our use of allowed-projects and semaphores? | 19:15 |
| mordred | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/716376/ <-- collecting logs | 19:15 |
| corvus | mordred: why have it exit 1? | 19:16 |
| fungi | exiting 1 on a creation failure | 19:16 |
| mordred | corvus: because that way we'll see red on the job to create the projects | 19:16 |
| mordred | yeah - when something fails | 19:16 |
| corvus | ack | 19:16 |
| mordred | since it'll be running in response to file changes rather than just on a cron | 19:16 |
| mordred | yeah - so this: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/716359/ is adding a semaphore since we're also triggering this from project-config | 19:17 |
| fungi | though that raises the question, when a change creates multiple repos and one breaks do we want it to keep going or just short-circuit and fail | 19:17 |
| mordred | we don't need to do it on all of our infra-prod jobs - but we do when it's a job that could get triggered by more than just system-config | 19:17 |
| clarkb | with goaccess we run periodically and have a job timeout that is less than the day period for periodic jobs. that means we largely avoid any overlapping jobs. In general though I think these zuul applied ansible playbooks will want semaphores as production isn't throw away test isntances with overlap :) | 19:17 |
| mordred | so - a thing for opendev folks to keep in mind | 19:17 |
| mordred | fungi: I think keep going - but report that there was an error | 19:17 |
| clarkb | mordred: ya thats the key is if it can be enqueued more than once (supercedent promote pipeline avoids the issue with single repo case) | 19:18 |
| mordred | yup | 19:18 |
| fungi | so stash error conditions and then summarize at the end | 19:18 |
| mordred | yeah. well - it'll alreayd log them | 19:18 |
| mordred | so the behavior is currently right - we just want to flag that there was an issue somewhere and the exit code should be non-zero | 19:18 |
| mordred | everything else should work great | 19:18 |
| fungi | right, that's what my poorly-constructed sentence was attempting to convey | 19:19 |
| fungi | thanks for confirming | 19:19 |
| mordred | fungi: sentences are english hard being | 19:19 |
| clarkb | is there anything else to call out on this subject? are we running gerrit in a container yet? | 19:19 |
| mordred | no - we still need to do a restart | 19:20 |
| fungi | gerrit2 95054 186 38.0 65169020 23520072 ? Sl Mar20 30043:21 GerritCodeReview -Xmx48g -jar /home/gerrit2/review_site/bin/gerrit.war daemon -d /home/gerrit2/review_site --run-id=1584714516.94871 | 19:21 |
| fungi | nope | 19:21 |
| mordred | and there's still a cut list on the etherpad to followup on | 19:21 |
| mordred | gerritbot is next on my list | 19:21 |
| mordred | then there's some utility cron jobs and stuff | 19:21 |
| clarkb | do we have a link to that etherpad? | 19:21 |
| fungi | the plan for gerritbot is to move it to eavesdrop as part of this, right? | 19:21 |
| mordred | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/gerrit-2020-03-20 | 19:22 |
| fungi | or was that going to be a later step? | 19:22 |
| mordred | fungi: yeah- well - first step I'm containerizing it | 19:22 |
| fungi | got it | 19:22 |
| clarkb | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/gerrit-2020-03-20 gerrit on docker todo list | 19:22 |
| mordred | then yeah- since it's new ansible - might as well do it on eavesdrop | 19:22 |
| corvus | i think i suggested that eavesdrop might be a better long-term home for it, but it's not critical, so whatever ends up being easier :) | 19:22 |
| mordred | yeah - I thnik it'll be the exact same amount of work since it's completely net-new ansible | 19:23 |
| fungi | eavesdrop or eavesdrop replacement if we want to start migrating the other things there to bionic, i don't suppose it matters | 19:23 |
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| clarkb | ya we can probably figure out what makes the most sense as it gets ansible dockered | 19:24 |
| mordred | ++ | 19:25 |
| clarkb | ianw: you've also been pushing on the nodepool builder on docker and fedora-31 images. Does it make sense to bring that up here? | 19:25 |
| * mordred just +A'd the nodepool change to bump dib | 19:27 | |
| clarkb | probably the biggest thing to be aware of there is that fedora31 images will be joined fedora30 images on the new nb04.opendev.org builder running on docker | 19:27 |
| ianw | umm, if that bump is in, then we can merge the configs and i can try things out today | 19:27 |
| mordred | also - if people haven't seen the new python-stow element they should look at it - it's super cool and is, I think, a great pttern | 19:27 |
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| ianw | if that's all going well, we can think about migrating some of the other builds to the container builder, and eventaully replace the other builders | 19:28 |
| mordred | ++ \o/ | 19:28 |
| ianw | then we can think about containerising the launchers | 19:28 |
| clarkb | exciting | 19:28 |
| clarkb | #topic OpenDev | 19:29 |
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| clarkb | I've had a think on what the formalization of the opendev leadership and advisory board next steps are and I think we should get the new comms channels up (particualrly the mailing list for this) then use that as a venue to solicit volunteers | 19:30 |
| clarkb | that way the history of the thing will be preserved in a place where people are likely to go looking for it in the future | 19:30 |
| clarkb | in addition to that I think it would be great if we can have our next meeting in the new channel | 19:31 |
| fungi | i concur | 19:31 |
| mordred | ++ | 19:32 |
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| clarkb | so if you've got a moment it would be great to brainstorm the channel name (here for a few minutes or on the change(s)) | 19:32 |
| clarkb | however, I expect the mailing list addition is less contentious and maybe we can land that one more quickly | 19:32 |
| fungi | what was the other suggestion, #opendev-annex? | 19:33 |
| clarkb | fungi: or -auxilliary (except its hard to spell and I'm sure I got it wrong there) | 19:33 |
| frickler | can you post the links to the reviews for reference? | 19:34 |
| clarkb | annex is easy to spell and short I'm on baord with that too fwiw | 19:34 |
| fungi | i'm sure we'd just shorten that to #opendev-aux anyway | 19:34 |
| clarkb | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/q/topic:opendev-comms Opendev comms changes | 19:34 |
| fungi | #link https://review.opendev.org/715972 Add a service discussion mailing list for OpenDev | 19:34 |
| clarkb | fungi: ^ | 19:34 |
| fungi | ahh, thought he wanted them individually linked, but sure | 19:35 |
| fungi | #undo | 19:35 |
| clarkb | er that was for frickler but tab complete failed :) | 19:35 |
| clarkb | individual links are fine too :) | 19:35 |
| clarkb | then for the actual leadership position we can make a call for volunteers on the new mailing list and if we have more than 1 run an election among opendev contributors. I'm personally happy to continue in this role, but would also be happy to see others take it on as well :) | 19:37 |
| fungi | if we're worried about folks mistaking the #opendev-meeting channel for a general meeting space, then we can likely just clarify its focus in theh /topic | 19:37 |
| corvus | this all sounds good to me; i don't have a preference on the secondary channel name | 19:38 |
| fungi | yeah, i'm not going to bikeshed over the name but if folks want to propose alternatives i'm fine with us entertaining our options | 19:39 |
| fungi | i gave it some thought before i pushed the patch and couldn't come up with anything better either, fwiw | 19:39 |
| clarkb | fungi: that sounds like a plan. AJaeger ^ perhaps you can suggest an alternative and we take it from there? | 19:39 |
| frickler | you should -w the patches if you want further discussion on them, I almost approved them this morning already | 19:40 |
| * AJaeger is bad at naming | 19:40 | |
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| clarkb | I think the mailing list can land as is, I've not heard any concerns about that one, then maybe -W the meeting channel change for now in order to continue discussion on name options in gerrit? | 19:41 |
| clarkb | fungi: ^ | 19:41 |
| AJaeger | clarkb, fungi, give it two days, if no names come up, we merge... | 19:41 |
| clarkb | AJaeger: wfm | 19:41 |
| clarkb | That takes us to the last opendev item I had on the agenda. A heads up about improving documentation to give peopel ending up at https://opendev.org a bit more context on where to go next | 19:42 |
| fungi | sure, i can wip the system-config change for the irc channel | 19:42 |
| fungi | er, i guess the project-config change actually as that's the earlier onw | 19:42 |
| clarkb | so far we've added a getting started link to the links on the nav bar in gitea. This takes you to the opendev infra manual getting started doc which is a simplified version of the dev docs | 19:43 |
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| clarkb | I expect there is more we can do in this space, whether that is improving themeing of the docs to feel more "cohesive" or updating content to better address the neds of people arriving from gitea | 19:43 |
| corvus | that sounds great :) | 19:44 |
| clarkb | oh also we removed the openstack theme from the infra manual | 19:44 |
| clarkb | it uses the alabaster sphinx theme now with an opendev logo | 19:44 |
| clarkb | definitely interested to hear feedback on this as I think one issue I suffer from is familiarity with the system means I gloss over the docs :) | 19:45 |
| clarkb | ideas are good! | 19:45 |
| clarkb | before we move on, I'm not sure if it was clear before but next week I'd like to have the opendev meeting in the new channel but will continue to keep the existing time slot | 19:46 |
| clarkb | I'll be sure to send out specifics when I send an agenda out | 19:46 |
| clarkb | #topic General Topics | 19:46 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "General Topics (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:46 | |
| clarkb | fungi: anything to report on wiki? I know you indicated you would try to keep updating the puppet as a guide for potential replacement tooling | 19:47 |
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| fungi | nope | 19:48 |
| fungi | not yet anyway | 19:48 |
| clarkb | #topic Open Discussion | 19:48 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:49 | |
| clarkb | Anything else? | 19:49 |
| clarkb | I'm excited about the progress we've made over the beginning of the yaer. Feels like a lot of the plans and ideas we've hard are coming together | 19:50 |
| mordred | ++ | 19:50 |
| clarkb | also I can't type | 19:50 |
| corvus | typing is hard | 19:50 |
| * fungi types harder | 19:51 | |
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| frickler | what are the next steps on meetpad? any help needed there? | 19:51 |
| corvus | yeah, it's up and running, but we found in testing that the etherpad function wasn't working in some (maybe even most) cases | 19:53 |
| clarkb | corvus: mark tried ti and discovered there isn' | 19:53 |
| corvus | it was returning errors, so it's pretty obvious when it doesn't work | 19:53 |
| clarkb | er | 19:53 |
| clarkb | isn't an http -> https redirect? we may want to add that too | 19:53 |
| corvus | clarkb: correct | 19:53 |
| corvus | and http doesn't work at all | 19:53 |
| corvus | so we need to add that | 19:53 |
| corvus | that should be easy | 19:53 |
| corvus | the hard part is figuring out what's (sometimes) broken about etherpad | 19:54 |
| fungi | this is presumably also newer etherpad than on our existing etherpad.o.o | 19:54 |
| corvus | so if anyone wants to visit it (via https) and see if they get an error from etherpad, and see if they can figure out what the problem is, that would be great | 19:54 |
| corvus | fungi: no, it is our existing etherpad.o.o | 19:54 |
| corvus | that's the main attraction of the service | 19:55 |
| fungi | oh, okay | 19:55 |
| clarkb | one idea that came up on friday was maybe we need to update etherpad though | 19:55 |
| fungi | so not a separate containerized etherpad deployment | 19:55 |
| corvus | correct | 19:55 |
| clarkb | jitsi is passing flags that our etherpad doesn't seem to honor so it may have other integration points that we need to accomodate | 19:55 |
| fungi | we probably do need to update etherpad anyway | 19:55 |
| corvus | clarkb: true, but this is only a sometimes failure | 19:55 |
| fungi | however, worth keeping in mind that they've also changed the theme in etherpad recently | 19:55 |
| fungi | so it's going to look a lot different | 19:56 |
| clarkb | corvus: ya I doubt it will fix the underlying problems | 19:56 |
| frickler | o.k., I'll try to take a look tomorrow | 19:56 |
| fungi | etherpad-dev.o.o is offline too, i can take a look at that after the meeting | 19:56 |
| corvus | it's possible, but since it sometimes works and sometimes fails, it means that if the problem were to be solved by an etherpad upgrade, it'd have to be some kind of stabilization or race thing, not a straightforward incompatibility. | 19:57 |
| corvus | the good news is that our deployment mechanism worked flawlessly the first time. including LE certs. :) | 19:57 |
| fungi | we're getting good at this | 19:58 |
| corvus | though due to a bug i introduced in the config, it's currently in the emergency file until https://review.opendev.org/715572 lands | 19:58 |
| clarkb | that change has now been approved | 19:58 |
| clarkb | and we are just about at time. | 19:59 |
| clarkb | Thanks everyone! feel free to continue conversation on irc or the mailing list | 19:59 |
| clarkb | and we'll see you next week hopefully in the new location! | 19:59 |
| clarkb | #endmeeting | 19:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 19:59 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 31 19:59:52 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2020/infra.2020-03-31-19.01.html | 19:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2020/infra.2020-03-31-19.01.txt | 19:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2020/infra.2020-03-31-19.01.log.html | 19:59 |
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| fungi | thanks clarkb! | 20:01 |
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| martial | quiet again :) | 20:06 |
| martial | stay at home everywhere | 20:07 |
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| rbudden | hello | 20:14 |
| rbudden | :) | 20:14 |
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| martial | Hi Bob :) | 20:35 |
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| oneswig | #startmeeting scientific-sig | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 31 21:00:45 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is oneswig. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: scientific-sig)" | 21:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'scientific_sig' | 21:00 |
| oneswig | ahoy | 21:00 |
| janders | g'day Oneswig | 21:01 |
| oneswig | Hey janders, what's new? | 21:02 |
| oneswig | all well here | 21:02 |
| martial | okay so super confused ... the meeting was one hour ... did you guys just change DST again? :) | 21:02 |
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| oneswig | oh man, what happened? | 21:03 |
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| oneswig | My calendar (I think) is set in UTC... | 21:03 |
| janders | doing okay.. we're not far from being under house arrest here in AUS | 21:03 |
| janders | pulling my hair out trying to get some groceries online | 21:03 |
| oneswig | #chair martial | 21:04 |
| openstack | Current chairs: martial oneswig | 21:04 |
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| martial | yeah VA is "if you are not shopping or working stay home" (wear a mask if you are out ... nowhere to be found of course) | 21:05 |
| oneswig | yes, unusual times. I think my family has found some level of equilibrium, although not always... | 21:05 |
| martial | schools have been closed for a few weeks and until the end of the school year (at least) | 21:06 |
| oneswig | martial: is DataMachines work affected by everyone being at home? | 21:06 |
| martial | nope I am kept crazy busy :) | 21:06 |
| martial | how about the rest of you? | 21:07 |
| oneswig | Seems a very popular time for people to explore remote training workshops. We are getting the hang of it. | 21:07 |
| janders | my team is all over AUS so remote work didnt change things much in regards to how we work | 21:08 |
| janders | we did however get nearly locked out of our shared DC | 21:08 |
| janders | which is creating interesting challenges | 21:08 |
| oneswig | janders: had a question with your name on it. What's the cleanest way of deploying an Ironic node without filling an entire disk with the root fs? | 21:09 |
| janders | hmm... good one :) | 21:09 |
| janders | so you want to partition the drive but leave empty space on the disk past the boot partition right? | 21:10 |
| oneswig | They are Dell nodes with a PERC. I could maybe make a 1-node RAID group, and split it into virtual devices? Not sure if it does that. | 21:11 |
| oneswig | Otherwise I was wondering about making a massive swap partition, and then not using it for swap | 21:11 |
| oneswig | Or the whole-disk-image stuff, maybe. | 21:11 |
| oneswig | I expect there's a proper way to do this... | 21:12 |
| janders | I haven't done this but I think if | 21:16 |
| janders | 1) boot image is smaller than disk and | 21:16 |
| janders | 2) cloud-init is configured not to scale up the filesystem | 21:16 |
| janders | it might just work | 21:16 |
| janders | I remember having a reverse problem with VMs back in the day where resizing fs wasn't done automatically which users were finding annoying | 21:17 |
| janders | though i am unsure if fs resize after deploying the image is done by cloud-init (like in VMs) or maybe in ironic instances IPA does that? | 21:17 |
| oneswig | Thanks janders, sounds sensible. The issue might be that I end up with a 2G root filesystem (or something crazy like that) | 21:17 |
| oneswig | I think the partitioning happens first, and fs resize fills the partition. | 21:18 |
| janders | right! valid concern | 21:18 |
| oneswig | so I must control the partitioning. | 21:18 |
| oneswig | Brings us round to an agenda item | 21:18 |
| oneswig | #topic OpenStack Bare Metal SIG - white paper | 21:19 |
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| oneswig | janders: I think you're already fully signed up to this, right? | 21:19 |
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| janders | https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1355903 | 21:19 |
| openstack | bugzilla.redhat.com bug 1355903 in diskimage-builder "[RFE] overcloud images have a single partition. Security requirement request for multiple partition options in the RHEL Cloud image" [Urgent,Closed: errata] - Assigned to yroblamo | 21:19 |
| janders | this may have some leads on "advanced partitioning" | 21:19 |
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| janders | I've never used this though, just heard about it doing something similar | 21:20 |
| janders | oneswig: yes | 21:20 |
| janders | I'm already working on it | 21:20 |
| oneswig | Nice - when does it need doing for? | 21:21 |
| janders | I wasn't told - though my gut feel is it has something to do with OpenDev in Vancouver (if OpenDev happens that is) | 21:21 |
| oneswig | That would make sense. If it gets printed, it would need some weeks before then for layout and so on. | 21:23 |
| oneswig | martial: is the bare metal sig something Data Machines is involved in? | 21:24 |
| martial | not really | 21:24 |
| martial | I am not sure who in the company would be the best POC for it too | 21:25 |
| martial | a lot of our work has us do K8s lately | 21:25 |
| oneswig | ... but not on bare metal ... | 21:26 |
| martial | but not on OpenStack :) | 21:26 |
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| martial | although we are looking into an undercloud based on OpenStack | 21:26 |
| martial | but this is a lot of Ansible scripts to deploy on top | 21:27 |
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| oneswig | Right, sounds somewhat familiar. | 21:27 |
| b1airo | halo! | 21:28 |
| oneswig | hey b1airo, g'day | 21:28 |
| oneswig | #chair b1airo | 21:28 |
| openstack | Current chairs: b1airo martial oneswig | 21:28 |
| martial | welcome Blair | 21:28 |
| oneswig | How's NZ? | 21:28 |
| b1airo | hope you're well! apologies for being late - bouncing between meetings | 21:28 |
| b1airo | quiet! | 21:28 |
| oneswig | np, we've just been talking bare metal with janders | 21:28 |
| b1airo | anything new on that front? | 21:29 |
| oneswig | Had a request for participation from the SIG in a bare metal white paper | 21:29 |
| oneswig | I'll take the request to the Slack channel later to widen circulation. Looking for user stories and motivations for Ironic | 21:30 |
| b1airo | i need to go back to the ISC committee and confirm or not willingness to participate - in one form or another | 21:31 |
| oneswig | We've been working recently on a study on the security mitigations for bare metal compute. I'm hoping we can share it as part of this effort. | 21:31 |
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| oneswig | b1airo: good point, thanks for the reminder. I'm assuming they'll can it, but good to do that anyway. | 21:31 |
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| oneswig | I'm not sure you can fly anywhere from NZ right now can you? | 21:34 |
| b1airo | no, not even if i wanted to ignore my workplace | 21:35 |
| martial | honestly not sure if ISC will happen for me either | 21:37 |
| oneswig | Seems highly unlikely | 21:37 |
| b1airo | yeah my guess would be that it will either move online or won't happen | 21:38 |
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| b1airo | the question might be whether we'd still want to hold the BoF if they move to an online forum | 21:39 |
| janders | allright... I was wondering why it suddenly got so quiet and it was just me getting booted out | 21:39 |
| b1airo | seems doable | 21:39 |
| oneswig | That seems the likely outcome | 21:39 |
| janders | oops seems like I missed a key part | 21:40 |
| janders | does it seem like OpenDev will be moved to online format? | 21:40 |
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| oneswig | I think that already happened | 21:40 |
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| janders | correct - just read the notification on the website | 21:41 |
| janders | good move | 21:41 |
| janders | I'd be surprised if ISC20 doesn't follow suit | 21:41 |
| oneswig | We were wondering that. | 21:42 |
| janders | I don't think anyone from Australia would be able to attend | 21:42 |
| martial | last I checked they still had cancelation policy :) | 21:42 |
| martial | (ie still happening in person) | 21:42 |
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| oneswig | Anyone else set up folding@home? There's quite a few people getting on board with that | 21:45 |
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| martial | for Corona? | 21:47 |
| oneswig | yes, apparently | 21:48 |
| martial | yes it is sweet ... kind of wish they had alternate CPU versions | 21:50 |
| martial | like a Jetson Nano :) | 21:50 |
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| oneswig | Yes that would be nice! | 21:50 |
| martial | and GPU optimized | 21:52 |
| b1airo | isn't that what containers are for ? :-P | 21:52 |
| martial | not sure if I can run an x86_64 on an arm64 | 21:53 |
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| martial | https://foldingathome.org/alternative-downloads/ | 21:55 |
| martial | nope | 21:55 |
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| oneswig | Nearly at the hour folks | 21:57 |
| martial | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/Sq2eDVc5/ | 21:57 |
| martial | (sorry) | 21:57 |
| martial | that on the other hand is interesting "The Folding@home team know about the work unit shortage. | 21:57 |
| martial | It's happening because of an approximately 20x increase in demand." | 21:57 |
| janders | stay safe - and we'll chat again next week | 21:58 |
| oneswig | Same to you! | 21:58 |
| martial | bye :) | 21:59 |
| oneswig | until next time | 21:59 |
| oneswig | #endmeeting | 21:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 21:59 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 31 21:59:24 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_sig/2020/scientific_sig.2020-03-31-21.00.html | 21:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_sig/2020/scientific_sig.2020-03-31-21.00.txt | 21:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_sig/2020/scientific_sig.2020-03-31-21.00.log.html | 21:59 |
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