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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 08:02 |
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| dkushwaha | #topic RollCall | 08:03 |
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| dkushwaha | closing today's meeting. | 08:10 |
| dkushwaha | #endmeeting | 08:10 |
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| ralonsoh | #startmeeting neutron_qos | 15:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Feb 11 15:01:01 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ralonsoh. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_qos)" | 15:01 | |
| ralonsoh | hi | 15:01 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_qos' | 15:01 |
| davidsha | o/ | 15:01 |
| ralonsoh | I don't think slawek is going to join us today | 15:01 |
| davidsha | kk | 15:01 |
| ralonsoh | let's wait 30 secs more | 15:01 |
| ralonsoh | #topic RFEs | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "RFEs (Meeting topic: neutron_qos)" | 15:02 | |
| ralonsoh | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1476527 | 15:03 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1476527 in neutron "[RFE] Add common classifier resource" [Wishlist,Triaged] - Assigned to Igor D.C. (igordcard) | 15:03 |
| ralonsoh | davidsha, ^ | 15:03 |
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| davidsha | Ya, I'm wrapping up the unit tests on the service plugin atm, however my team is being redeployed onto other tasks so I won't be able to continue development of the feature going forward. | 15:04 |
| ralonsoh | davidsha, so are you going to stop the development of the feature? | 15:05 |
| davidsha | ralonsoh: yesll post an update onto the patches so everyone is aware. | 15:05 |
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| ralonsoh | ok, I'll pack all the open patches in the bug | 15:06 |
| ralonsoh | just to have them in a single place | 15:06 |
| davidsha | thanks. | 15:07 |
| ralonsoh | but I no one is going to continue the development, I don't think we should merge any of them | 15:07 |
| ralonsoh | including the first one, the n-lib one | 15:07 |
| davidsha | ack, I'll put a workflow -1 on the patches for the time being. | 15:08 |
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| ralonsoh | anyway, thank you very much for working in such a difficult feature | 15:09 |
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| ralonsoh | and if you are not going to work (for now) in OpenStack, thank you very much for your time | 15:09 |
| ralonsoh | it was a pleasure to work with you in the same team | 15:10 |
| davidsha | thanks, and thank you for all the reviews and recommendations, I'll need to message Lajos aswell and thank them for the API test work | 15:10 |
| davidsha | Thank you, the pleasure was all mine :) | 15:10 |
| ralonsoh | ok, let's move then to the next RFE we have | 15:11 |
| ralonsoh | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1858610 | 15:11 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1858610 in neutron "[RFE] Qos policy not supporting sharing bandwidth between several nics of the same vm." [Undecided,New] | 15:11 |
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| ralonsoh | we are still debating the in launchpad about the feasibility of this feature | 15:11 |
| ralonsoh | we have 3 debating points | 15:12 |
| davidsha | You would need to aggreagate all the ports is it? | 15:12 |
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| ralonsoh | that's one question | 15:12 |
| ralonsoh | lest' start by | 15:12 |
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| ralonsoh | 1) the db model | 15:12 |
| ralonsoh | this is the easiest one | 15:12 |
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| ralonsoh | to create a new qos rule, but this rule is exclusive with maxBW | 15:13 |
| ralonsoh | a qos policy can have maxBW or maxBW shared | 15:13 |
| ralonsoh | not both | 15:13 |
| ralonsoh | (this must be defined with more detail in a spec) | 15:13 |
| ralonsoh | 2) the neutron server | 15:13 |
| ralonsoh | are we going to allow ports from different VMs with the same qos rule? | 15:14 |
| ralonsoh | a rule can define how a port is scheduled? | 15:14 |
| ralonsoh | IMO, we should NOT block a VM to be scheduled if a port has a shared maxBW rule and there are others ports, in different VMs, with this rule | 15:15 |
| ralonsoh | in this case, the aggreagation is per VM level | 15:15 |
| ralonsoh | and the shared BW will apply only for ports in the same VM with the same maxBW shared qos rule | 15:16 |
| ralonsoh | (but this is just my opinion, no spec is defined yet) | 15:16 |
| ralonsoh | davidsha, any comment? | 15:16 |
| davidsha | ralonsoh, Just so I'm clear, is it a 1:1 mapping of Rule to VM to say all these ports with these rules are in the same VM? | 15:17 |
| ralonsoh | no | 15:17 |
| davidsha | with *this* rule are in the same VM* | 15:17 |
| davidsha | kk | 15:18 |
| ralonsoh | there is no 1:1 mapping between rule and VM | 15:18 |
| ralonsoh | that's what I want to avoid | 15:18 |
| davidsha | ack | 15:18 |
| ralonsoh | if we do this, we need to create a placement resource provider to limit the port scheduling | 15:18 |
| ralonsoh | and.... this is too much for this RFE | 15:18 |
| ralonsoh | (just my opinion) | 15:19 |
| davidsha | This nearly sounds like it should be a policy applied to the instance rather than the port. | 15:19 |
| ralonsoh | you can have VMs with ports with the same rule | 15:19 |
| ralonsoh | 1 maxBW shared rule | 15:19 |
| ralonsoh | applied to 100 ports, 10 per VM | 15:19 |
| ralonsoh | the 10 ports assigned to a VM will share the defined BW | 15:19 |
| ralonsoh | of course, this must be enforced in the backend | 15:20 |
| davidsha | yup | 15:20 |
| ralonsoh | and this is the third point | 15:20 |
| ralonsoh | 3) backend | 15:20 |
| ralonsoh | 3.1) LB: similar to the proposal Jie is doing, but I would like to see more detail on this | 15:20 |
| ralonsoh | 3.2) OVS: IMO, we **cannnot** introduce a LB in the middle of br-int and a device port | 15:22 |
| ralonsoh | this won't work with DPDK or offload HW | 15:22 |
| davidsha | with DPDK, probably not. | 15:22 |
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| ralonsoh | and that's why I would like Jie to propose a spec, to define those points | 15:23 |
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| davidsha | For OvS, it's QoS objects do let you route traffic into queues, I think it's only for egress traffic though | 15:23 |
| ralonsoh | davidsha, you can make it work like in hybrid OVS | 15:24 |
| davidsha | ack | 15:24 |
| ralonsoh | with a LB in the middle of br-int and the VM | 15:24 |
| davidsha | kk | 15:24 |
| ralonsoh | and using the same strategy as in LB | 15:24 |
| ralonsoh | but the performance... | 15:24 |
| ralonsoh | and as I said, some compatibility issues | 15:25 |
| davidsha | It's possible, just not practicle. | 15:25 |
| ralonsoh | exactly | 15:25 |
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| ralonsoh | ok, let's move to next section | 15:26 |
| ralonsoh | #topic Bugs | 15:26 |
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| ralonsoh | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1853171 | 15:26 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1853171 in neutron "Deprecate and remove any "ofctl" code in Neutron and related projects " [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to David Shaughnessy (david-shaughnessy) | 15:26 |
| ralonsoh | as commented, this will take time | 15:26 |
| davidsha | I'm looking into the firewall file at the moment, I'll try to push some initial work for it. | 15:27 |
| ralonsoh | thanks! | 15:27 |
| ralonsoh | no rush | 15:27 |
| davidsha | ack | 15:27 |
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| ralonsoh | and the next one we have is | 15:28 |
| ralonsoh | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1648525 | 15:28 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1648525 in neutron "[OVN] QoS doesn't work with DVR, vlan tenant networks or provider networks." [Undecided,New] | 15:28 |
| ralonsoh | (filled in 2016) | 15:28 |
| davidsha | :O | 15:28 |
| ralonsoh | I'll talk to OVN guys to know more about this bug | 15:29 |
| ralonsoh | and how to reproduce it | 15:29 |
| ralonsoh | so far, I don't have more information about it | 15:29 |
| ralonsoh | and that's all I have | 15:30 |
| ralonsoh | #topic Open Discussion | 15:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: neutron_qos)" | 15:30 | |
| ralonsoh | do you have something for this section, davidsha ? | 15:30 |
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| davidsha | Just to thank everyone again, I enjoyed working with you all and hope to get the chance again! | 15:31 |
| ralonsoh | for sure | 15:31 |
| ralonsoh | thank you very much! | 15:31 |
| ralonsoh | and see you around | 15:31 |
| davidsha | See you! | 15:31 |
| ralonsoh | bye | 15:32 |
| ralonsoh | #endmeeting | 15:32 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 15:32 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Feb 11 15:32:10 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:32 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_qos/2020/neutron_qos.2020-02-11-15.01.html | 15:32 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_qos/2020/neutron_qos.2020-02-11-15.01.txt | 15:32 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_qos/2020/neutron_qos.2020-02-11-15.01.log.html | 15:32 |
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| clarkb | meeting time anyone else here for the meeting? | 19:00 |
| clarkb | *infra meeting | 19:00 |
| clarkb | Things have been on fire today. We'll probably be split brained as a result | 19:00 |
| clarkb | #startmeeting infra | 19:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Feb 11 19:01:15 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is clarkb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:01 | |
| ianw | o/ | 19:01 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'infra' | 19:01 |
| clarkb | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-infra/2020-February/006599.html Our Agenda | 19:01 |
| zbr | o/ | 19:01 |
| clarkb | #topic Announcements | 19:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:01 | |
| clarkb | I'm going to use this topic to give a quick tldr on our current fires | 19:01 |
| clarkb | virtualenv>=20.0.0,<20.0.2 by default installs "seed" packages: pip, setuptools, wheel, and probably something I'm forgetting via symlinks to a common user dir | 19:02 |
| diablo_rojo | o/ | 19:02 |
| fungi | easy_install | 19:02 |
| clarkb | This causes problems if you then copy the virtualenv to someplace else or if you run software out of that venv as a user other than the user that created it and can't follow the symlinks due to permissions errors | 19:02 |
| clarkb | The first issue hit zuul due to its use of bwrap and the second is hitting opendev's test node images because we have root create venvs for bindep and os-testr | 19:03 |
| clarkb | then the zuul user can't access the files in /root/.local/some/path to resolve the symlinks in the venv | 19:03 |
| fungi | seemed like a great idea at the time | 19:03 |
| clarkb | The fix has been to use virtualen --seeder=pip which installs the seed packages normally using pip. But virtualenv==20.0.2 just released like 10 minutes ago to change the default to a file copy not symlink | 19:04 |
| zbr | the seed issue painful than the incompatibility with six that was introduced. | 19:04 |
| clarkb | right there is a seprate issue that affects you if you use new virtualenv with old six (possibly from distro packages) | 19:05 |
| clarkb | as old six isn't compatible with new virtualenv | 19:05 |
| zbr | mainly neither of the versions of six shipping with centos-8 or centos-7 are compatible with virtualenv 20.x, but somehow that virtualenv gets installed without upgrading six. | 19:06 |
| clarkb | zbr: virtualenv probably doesn't specify a lower bound for six | 19:06 |
| zbr | obviously that overriding the system installed six is another sensitive issue. | 19:06 |
| clarkb | so the installed version is seen as sufficient | 19:06 |
| mordred | o/ | 19:06 |
| clarkb | overall it seems we have a handle on things and if we get new images (which I've triggered builds for) we'll settle down and be happy | 19:06 |
| clarkb | there is also a base jobs workaround that mordred wrote which we should revert once the dust settles | 19:07 |
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| mordred | yeah. although I think we can go through the normal base-test process to verify it | 19:07 |
| fungi | https://github.com/pypa/virtualenv/blob/master/setup.cfg#L46 | 19:07 |
| fungi | six>=1.12.0,<2 | 19:07 |
| fungi | it's in the install_requires | 19:07 |
| fungi | i suspect some jobs are installing distro packages overtop it | 19:08 |
| zbr | i know it does, but I also know what I seen in the wild. newer virtualenv complaining about that import from six. | 19:08 |
| clarkb | at this point I think we want to double check any new reports to nesure they aren't different bugs and if not encourage patience, however jobs that start after now (mordreds workaround landing and its fix landing) should be good to go | 19:08 |
| frickler | queens and rocky u-c also install six==1.11.0 | 19:09 |
| clarkb | oh right devstack has some pin virtualenv changes to land, thank you frickler | 19:09 |
| fungi | pip also probably still doesn't catch when you incompatibly downgrade a dependency in a separate command | 19:10 |
| clarkb | fungi: it does not | 19:10 |
| mordred | the main thing that triggers that conflict seems to be pip installing tox on a system where python libs are otherwise installed via distro packages | 19:10 |
| fungi | afaik its dependency resolver still doesn't track dependencies for already-installed packages | 19:10 |
| clarkb | (that is something the dependency resolver work in pip should address) | 19:10 |
| mordred | so - I think the contraint bump on six fixes the symptom | 19:10 |
| mordred | but people should take this as an opportunity to go look at whether they can stop pip installing tox on systems where they install six via packages | 19:11 |
| mordred | because that _will_ break again if not addressed | 19:11 |
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| fungi | or switch to the tox-venv plugin if they only test python3 | 19:11 |
| zbr | and how about systems where tox is not packaged? | 19:11 |
| mordred | might mean someone making a good usable rpm for tox even | 19:11 |
| clarkb | zbr: then six and tox should probably both come from pypi and not be mixed | 19:12 |
| mordred | zbr: yeah - I'm not saying I know waht the solution is - just that the people who are in that circumstance should look at the options | 19:12 |
| mordred | fungi's is a good one | 19:12 |
| zbr | fungi: i wanted to propose we intall tox-venv by default with tox, it could help us avoid that .... virtualenv issue. | 19:12 |
| clarkb | mordred: ++ | 19:12 |
| mordred | although tox still has to get installed | 19:12 |
| fungi | zbr: i use it heavily for python3-only projects outside openstack | 19:12 |
| mordred | so there's still the issue that tox+six exposes | 19:12 |
| mordred | I'm not going to dig in to it any further - just more a warning that whoever is in the distro-six+pip-tox is _going_ to be broken again in the future | 19:13 |
| clarkb | ++ anything else on this? I don't think we should solve all the problems here, but I wanted to do a sumamry to ensure we all had a rough picture of what was going on | 19:13 |
| clarkb | as we are getting many questions | 19:13 |
| mordred | ++ | 19:13 |
| zbr | anyone against adding tox-venv? | 19:13 |
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| clarkb | zbr: I don't think so but we may have to sort out what that means for python2 ? something to figure otu in review likely | 19:14 |
| mordred | yeah. I think it's worth exploring | 19:14 |
| fungi | it's a good point, `pip install tox` still installs virtualenv whether or not you use it (but if you use tox-venv then virtualenv is not invoked at least) | 19:14 |
| mordred | it still might not solve our issue though | 19:14 |
| mordred | because of that ^^ | 19:14 |
| zbr | clarkb: it means nothing, tox-venv on python fallback to virtualenv | 19:14 |
| clarkb | ya we can debug further after the meeting | 19:15 |
| mordred | ++ | 19:15 |
| zbr | it is clearly documented that on platforms where venv is not available, tox-venv will let tox use virtalenv. | 19:15 |
| fungi | but yeah, we can likely move on with the meeting | 19:15 |
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| clarkb | My other last minute announcement is that I have to pop out of the meeting early in order to get kids from school. If we aren't done at about 19:45 fungi has volunteered to take over the chair duties | 19:15 |
| clarkb | Just a heads up that I'll be popping out in about half an hour | 19:15 |
| fungi | so let's wrap up in 30 minutes ;) | 19:16 |
| fungi | otherwise you have to deal with more of me | 19:16 |
| clarkb | #topic Actions from last meeting | 19:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Actions from last meeting (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:16 | |
| clarkb | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2020/infra.2020-02-04-19.01.txt minutes from last meeting | 19:16 |
| clarkb | There were no actions. | 19:16 |
| clarkb | #topic Priority Efforts | 19:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Priority Efforts (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:16 | |
| clarkb | #topic OpenDev | 19:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenDev (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:16 | |
| clarkb | mordred: where did we end up with the upgrading gitea stack (if we ignore that landing changes right now might be difficult) | 19:17 |
| clarkb | iirc there was a 1.10.3 upgrade that should be safe, then on top of that a 1.11.0rcX change and then on top of that a roll out master for git cache | 19:18 |
| clarkb | I expect we can land 1.10.3 real soon now then evaluate test results for the other changes? | 19:18 |
| clarkb | (I think mordred is distracted) | 19:18 |
| mordred | yes | 19:19 |
| mordred | 1.10.3 is safe to land | 19:19 |
| mordred | 1.11 I should go WIP - there are template changes that need to be updated | 19:19 |
| mordred | however - we're in good shape broadly because 1.11 and master both at least _build_ | 19:19 |
| clarkb | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/705804/ upgrade gitea to 1.10.3 | 19:19 |
| mordred | it's worth noting that 1.11 is using npm directly - so we have to install that into the builder image | 19:19 |
| clarkb | mordred: nodenv might make that easy then we can rm -rf the virtualenv? | 19:20 |
| mordred | clarkb: doesn't matter - it's in the builder image | 19:20 |
| mordred | we don't use that image in the final output | 19:20 |
| clarkb | oh right we build in a throwaway | 19:20 |
| mordred | yup | 19:20 |
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| clarkb | even if we don't land those right away we'll at least be ready when those releases are cut | 19:21 |
| clarkb | seems worthwhile, thank y ou for that | 19:21 |
| clarkb | (1.12.0 adds the git commit cache to gitea which should speed up rendering time for large repos like nova) | 19:22 |
| clarkb | Anything else on the opendev topic? | 19:22 |
| clarkb | #topic Update Configuration Management | 19:23 |
| diablo_rojo | Have you given thoughts to the docs question I posed in the TC patch? | 19:23 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Update Configuration Management (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:23 | |
| diablo_rojo | Too slow lol | 19:23 |
| clarkb | #undo | 19:23 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: #topic Update Configuration Management | 19:23 |
| clarkb | diablo_rojo: were there new ones or the ones about user guide? | 19:23 |
| diablo_rojo | the one about the infra manual also being moved out and having openstack specific things extracted into the contrib guide | 19:24 |
| fungi | i suspect we're all in agreement the infra manual is going to need a bit of an overhaul and splitting/deopenstacking | 19:24 |
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| mordred | ++ | 19:25 |
| mordred | dopenstack | 19:25 |
| clarkb | diablo_rojo: I guess from openstack's perspective the contributor guide and infra-manual openstack specific bits might be redundant? | 19:25 |
| clarkb | diablo_rojo: and so it doesn't make sense to keep infra-manual the repo under governance? | 19:25 |
| fungi | a bit of dope'n'stacking yes | 19:25 |
| clarkb | if that is the case we can remove it from the yaml file then next time we do a repo renaming move it into opendev/ and work to dopenstack it | 19:26 |
| diablo_rojo | the definitely are redundant which is why I think it would make sense to move the infra manual out and keep the openstack specifics to the contributor guide and keep the opendev stuff to the infra manual | 19:26 |
| diablo_rojo | Agreed :) | 19:27 |
| clarkb | diablo_rojo: ok, in that case I'll push up a new ps | 19:27 |
| diablo_rojo | Woot! | 19:27 |
| clarkb | any objections to ^ | 19:27 |
| corvus | sgtm | 19:27 |
| fungi | i'm on board | 19:27 |
| fungi | thanks for the great suggestion, diablo_rojo! | 19:27 |
| diablo_rojo | Double woot :) | 19:28 |
| clarkb | alright next up is config mgmt | 19:28 |
| diablo_rojo | glad I spoke up :) | 19:28 |
| clarkb | ++ | 19:28 |
| diablo_rojo | thanks clarkb! | 19:28 |
| clarkb | #topic Update Config Management | 19:28 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Update Config Management (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:28 | |
| clarkb | mordred: I think despite fires there has been good progress on gerrit ansible+docker? | 19:28 |
| clarkb | including addition of LE? | 19:28 |
| mordred | yes! fungi made a great comment which I didn't see | 19:29 |
| fungi | i'll try to make my comments more visible in the future | 19:29 |
| mordred | until earlier today - which is that we should also grab the LE stuff for the .openstack.org versions so we can do the redirects | 19:29 |
| mordred | so I've got the LE dns records in place for review and review-dev in rackspace dns | 19:30 |
| fungi | cutting over without the review.openstack.org redirect would have been not great | 19:30 |
| mordred | and have updated the stack to include the redirects | 19:30 |
| fungi | and now it's failing a puppet4 job | 19:30 |
| mordred | that stack needs a good recheck after this morning's fun | 19:30 |
| fungi | (in case you haven't seen) | 19:30 |
| mordred | (eyah - that's a virtualenv based issue) | 19:30 |
| fungi | got it | 19:30 |
| mordred | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/707214/ <-- | 19:31 |
| clarkb | I filed a bug upstream in voxpululi but ^ works around it for us | 19:31 |
| mordred | that should be the fix for the virtualenv issue | 19:31 |
| clarkb | https://github.com/voxpupuli/puppet-python/issues/534 if curous | 19:31 |
| mordred | puppet askbot will also be borked | 19:31 |
| clarkb | mordred: can probably use a similar workaround there? | 19:31 |
| mordred | probably | 19:31 |
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| mordred | that said ... | 19:33 |
| mordred | assuming the puppet patch works and the gerrit stack goes green - a) it's ready for review :) ... | 19:33 |
| clarkb | ++ | 19:33 |
| mordred | b) we should talk about how we want to do the actual review.o.o | 19:33 |
| ianw | i should move that afsmon call to mirror-update.opendev.org anyway | 19:33 |
| mordred | (cant' remember if I mentioned, but review-dev.opendev.org is running from the tip of the previous rev of that stack - minus the redirects) | 19:33 |
| clarkb | mordred: is this on xenial or bionic (the new stuff) | 19:34 |
| mordred | xenial | 19:34 |
| mordred | because review.o.o is xenial | 19:34 |
| clarkb | ok so we don't have to create a new server and cut over if we don't want to | 19:34 |
| mordred | nope | 19:34 |
| clarkb | but that may still be a good idea just to start clean? | 19:34 |
| corvus | do we feel like we need to do the new ip notification dance? | 19:35 |
| mordred | nah - I think let's go with what we've got for now - new server and cutover is a bunch more work | 19:35 |
| clarkb | mordred: got it and good point corvus (we probably would want to do that at least for a week or two) | 19:35 |
| mordred | we've got decent runway on xenial right? | 19:36 |
| corvus | in which case, yeah, let's keep the existing :) | 19:36 |
| mordred | the container shift should protect us from userland impacting needs for upgrading for a while longer | 19:36 |
| clarkb | mordred: ~14 months | 19:36 |
| mordred | yeah. that's awesome. we should be able to get firmly onto 3.x and be happy with our container workflow in that time :) | 19:36 |
| clarkb | and bionic is 10 yaers of support so we can just park there and retire :) | 19:37 |
| clarkb | alright anything else or should we move on? | 19:37 |
| fungi | i got nothin' | 19:38 |
| clarkb | #topic General Topics | 19:38 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "General Topics (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:38 | |
| clarkb | First up, we've been asked if we will want space at the Vancvouer PTG | 19:38 |
| clarkb | I plan to be there and expect that fungi does as well | 19:38 |
| fungi | yup | 19:38 |
| fungi | it's a swell place | 19:38 |
| clarkb | if we have more than 2 I'll fill out the form and request a spot | 19:39 |
| clarkb | so let me know if you think you'll be there | 19:39 |
| fungi | could be opendev or openstack infra i guess | 19:39 |
| clarkb | ya I think the overlap will still be large and won't try to be specific to one or the other | 19:39 |
| mordred | I imagine I'll be there - but I'm still in "I don't want to travel anywhere ever again" mindset ... | 19:40 |
| clarkb | I have about 3 weeks to answer so no rush but sooner is probably better for diablo_rojo | 19:40 |
| clarkb | Next up is server upgrades. I'll start with a quick refstack update then ianw and fungi can add wiki and static updates | 19:40 |
| fungi | mordred: at least it's within the same conference? | 19:41 |
| fungi | er, same continent | 19:41 |
| * fungi struggles with words | 19:41 | |
| clarkb | With refstack apparently some of the board is still interested in running that service. The foundation is going to ask around and see if any of that translates to willingness to maintain the software | 19:41 |
| mordred | fungi: I did my due-dilligence on amtrak | 19:41 |
| fungi | fair | 19:41 |
| clarkb | I pointed out that I don't think it is significant amounts of work, but someone does need to do it. | 19:42 |
| clarkb | Until then I'll sit on my dockerfied refstack stack | 19:42 |
| clarkb | fungi: any wiki updates? | 19:42 |
| fungi | yeah, if the board is interested in running the service, then the board should run th eservice | 19:42 |
| fungi | no new updates since just prior to fosdem. i've gotten little done in the post-fosdem hangover fog | 19:42 |
| fungi | still need to test plugins now that we have content loading | 19:43 |
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| clarkb | ianw: any thing new on static? | 19:43 |
| fungi | it's basically done except for tarballs, yeah? | 19:44 |
| ianw | umm, i wouldn't say so unfortunately | 19:44 |
| fungi | also i suspect we didn't actually need to migrate the logs site | 19:44 |
| ianw | https://review.opendev.org/#/q/topic:static-services | 19:44 |
| ianw | is ready for review | 19:44 |
| clarkb | ah ok need the modified afs vos release toolchain | 19:44 |
| ianw | there are changes to publish tarballs to AFS in parallel | 19:44 |
| ianw | i have also proposed as clarkb mentions some changes so we can make a dashboard for vos release | 19:45 |
| ianw | because i'm a little concerned this will be the biggest volume by far in that path | 19:45 |
| fungi | clarkb: have you #chair'ed me? you need to scoot now, right? | 19:45 |
| clarkb | ya I need to scoot | 19:45 |
| clarkb | #chair fungi | 19:45 |
| openstack | Current chairs: clarkb fungi | 19:45 |
| * fungi cackles maniacally with power | 19:46 | |
| clarkb | thanks! and I'm out | 19:46 |
| fungi | i agree, having good stats around vos release timing should be helpful | 19:46 |
| ianw | there's still releases after this, and then a few other straggler sites | 19:46 |
| fungi | though hopefully the updates to that volume are not high-impact, as they're generally incremental and append-only | 19:47 |
| fungi | (tarballs i mean) | 19:47 |
| ianw | yep -- i certainly hope that's the case and we see no issues at all :) | 19:47 |
| fungi | it's not like the mirror volumes where we add and delete (far more) data | 19:48 |
| ianw | there's also the option to serve directly from the r/w volume, at, AIUI at cost of much more network traffic ... but given the loads on the server it may be acceptable | 19:48 |
| fungi | also i'm complicating matters by adding docs.airshipit.io into the mix | 19:49 |
| ianw | anyway, i'll chase up on things as the virtualenvopolypse settles | 19:49 |
| fungi | but it's at least helping me better understand the tooling around all of this | 19:49 |
| fungi | i should be able to review the rest of the vos release stack after the meeting | 19:50 |
| ianw | thanks; happy to babysit it as appropriate | 19:51 |
| fungi | okay, on to... | 19:52 |
| fungi | New Arm64 cloud (ianw 20200211) | 19:52 |
| ianw | i think that is, as they say, fully operational now | 19:52 |
| ianw | we had some teething problems with routing and storage, but we migrated nb03 to the new region and it appears to be working | 19:53 |
| fungi | i appreciate the death star reference | 19:53 |
| ianw | kevinz fixed ceph on the london side so our orphaned images disappeared yesterday afternoon my time | 19:54 |
| mordred | woot | 19:54 |
| * corvus tries to remember tarkin discussing teething problems | 19:54 | |
| fungi | though an upshot of that is we discovered an unresponsive provider will block the image cleanup thread from processing old images in other providers on the same builder | 19:54 |
| fungi | corvus: the "fully operational" line | 19:54 |
| ianw | so, i'm not aware of any outstanding issues | 19:55 |
| corvus | fungi: i'm going to pursue the teething line of inquiry | 19:55 |
| fungi | moff corvus | 19:55 |
| ianw | note we have "check-arm64" for anyone who would like to add jobs but is a bit shy to put them in their main gate | 19:55 |
| ianw | i think we can promote that more now that we have a bigger cloud, and as it proves itself people can promote jobs to main gates | 19:56 |
| fungi | what's the rough quota now? | 19:56 |
| corvus | this is our second region, right? | 19:56 |
| fungi | second but, as i understand, much larger? | 19:56 |
| ianw | yes, i think it's 8 nodes in london, and about 48 in US | 19:56 |
| fungi | that is substantial, yes (6x) | 19:56 |
| fungi | so lon may as well not exist, by comparison | 19:57 |
| fungi | if we see significant uptake and then usa falls offline, lon isn't going to make much of a dent in the backlog | 19:58 |
| fungi | we have like a minute to talk about the airship cloud | 19:58 |
| fungi | and clarkb isn't here to fill us in | 19:59 |
| fungi | but sounds like it's up and in use | 19:59 |
| fungi | there's been some confusion over the naming | 19:59 |
| fungi | to be clear, it's resources provided by ericsson at the request of airship by purchasing capacity in citycloud | 19:59 |
| fungi | so ultimately it's in citycloud, hence the name | 19:59 |
| fungi | though it's supposed to also provide some general resource quota for our overall pool too | 20:00 |
| fungi | in addition it has some very large (including 32gb) nested virt flavors | 20:00 |
| fungi | which airship requested for their integration testing | 20:01 |
| fungi | and we're over time | 20:01 |
| fungi | i can entertain questions (as far as i'm able) in #openstack-infra though | 20:01 |
| fungi | thanks all! | 20:01 |
| fungi | #endmeeting | 20:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 20:01 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Feb 11 20:01:46 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2020/infra.2020-02-11-19.01.html | 20:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2020/infra.2020-02-11-19.01.txt | 20:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2020/infra.2020-02-11-19.01.log.html | 20:01 |
| diablo_rojo | Thanks fungi and clarkb! | 20:02 |
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