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| zhangchi | #startmeeting tricircle | 01:15 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 27 01:15:54 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is zhangchi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 01:15 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 01:15 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: tricircle)" | 01:15 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tricircle' | 01:15 |
| zhangchi | Hello everyone welcome back to tricircle bio-weekly meeting | 01:16 |
| Yipei | hi | 01:16 |
| zhangchi | Hi Yipei Nice to meet you | 01:18 |
| zhangchi | Right now our development cycle Ussuri begins | 01:19 |
| zhangchi | Our jobs listed bellow:https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tricircle-ussuri-plan | 01:20 |
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| zhangchi | Welcome everyone can take over interested work items :) | 01:21 |
| Yipei | we have a fresh undergraduate student join in our project, he will finish the rest work of new l3 networking model | 01:22 |
| Yipei | his name is Zhen | 01:22 |
| Yipei | i invited him in our WeChat group just now | 01:22 |
| zhangchi | Oh good Welcome Zhen | 01:23 |
| Yipei | We will help him learn to use irc | 01:23 |
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| zhangchi | Okay | 01:25 |
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| zhangchi | #link: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/#Tricircle_Meeting Maybe this is useful | 01:28 |
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| Yipei | got it. thx | 01:31 |
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| zhangchi | You are welcome :) | 01:32 |
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| zhangchi | Tricircle working with container listed So XSM_HUST you can improve and perfect it | 01:38 |
| XSM_HUST | ok | 01:38 |
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| zhangchi | I will registered the bluepints for you later Please tell us you email address later | 01:46 |
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| Yipei | ok, got it | 01:49 |
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| zhangchi | Okay Thanks Yipei we can try our best to have more contributions in Ussuri | 01:53 |
| Yipei | ok | 01:53 |
| zhangchi | Any other issues or advices is welcome for you | 01:58 |
| zhangchi | Our next meeting is December 11th | 01:59 |
| zhangchi | Thank you Yipei and XSM_HUST | 01:59 |
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| Yipei | you are welcome | 02:00 |
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| XSM_HUST | bye | 02:01 |
| zhangchi | Thank you bye | 02:01 |
| zhangchi | #endmeeting | 02:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 27 02:01:32 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 02:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tricircle/2019/tricircle.2019-11-27-01.15.html | 02:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tricircle/2019/tricircle.2019-11-27-01.15.txt | 02:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tricircle/2019/tricircle.2019-11-27-01.15.log.html | 02:01 |
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| ttx | #startmeeting large_scale_sig | 09:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 27 09:00:34 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ttx. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 09:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: large_scale_sig)" | 09:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'large_scale_sig' | 09:00 |
| ttx | #topic Rollcall | 09:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Rollcall (Meeting topic: large_scale_sig)" | 09:00 | |
| oneswig | hi | 09:00 |
| YusukeTatsumi18 | hi | 09:00 |
| belmoreira | o/ | 09:00 |
| amorin | hello | 09:01 |
| etp | hi | 09:01 |
| jiaopengju | hi | 09:01 |
| Dinesh_Bhor | Hello all | 09:01 |
| ttx | Welcome to the first of what I hope will be a long series of meetings of this SIG! | 09:01 |
| masahito | o/ | 09:01 |
| ttx | I'd like to start by doing a quick round of introductions, I'll start | 09:01 |
| ttx | My name is Thierry Carrez, I manage the engineering team at the OpenStack Foundation | 09:01 |
| oneswig | I'm Stig Telfer, CTO, StackHPC | 09:01 |
| ttx | My goal here is to facilitate a discussion between OpenStack users | 09:01 |
| ttx | and get them engaged to drive common improvements that will make everyone's life better | 09:01 |
| etp | I'm Erkki Peura, architect for Nokia private cloud | 09:02 |
| YusukeTatsumi18 | Hi I'm Yusuke Tatsumi from Yahoo! JAPAN | 09:02 |
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| jiaopengju | I'am Pengju Jiao from China Mobile | 09:03 |
| amorin | I am Arnaud Morin, working for OVH in the team in charge of deploying and operating the Public Cloud infrastructure (based on openstack of course) | 09:03 |
| belmoreira | I'm Belmiro. I work at CERN deploying and maintaining our multi cell cloud | 09:03 |
| masahito | I'm Masahito Muroi, working for LINE as software engineer. | 09:03 |
| Dinesh_Bhor | I'm Dinesh Bhor, I am from LINE Corp. I work as an Infrastructure Enginner. | 09:03 |
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| ttx | Looks like we lost Yusuke | 09:04 |
| YusukeTatsumi | I'm re-logined. | 09:05 |
| ttx | Ah great!\ | 09:05 |
| ttx | I think we heard from everyone | 09:05 |
| ttx | #topic Agree on SIG name | 09:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Agree on SIG name (Meeting topic: large_scale_sig)" | 09:05 | |
| ttx | We are currently using "large scale SIG" to describe this group | 09:05 |
| ttx | Before I formally file the paperwork to create the SIG I'd like to see if that name works | 09:05 |
| ttx | On one hand it's a bit vague and with a bit of a wide potential scope | 09:06 |
| ttx | On the other we already started to communicate with that name, so maybe it's simpler to continue | 09:06 |
| ttx | What is your opinion on that? | 09:06 |
| amorin | for me this name is correct | 09:06 |
| oneswig | I'm here for the substance, whatever the name :-) | 09:06 |
| jiaopengju | agree +1 | 09:06 |
| belmoreira | +1 | 09:06 |
| Dinesh_Bhor | I think lets keep it same as now. | 09:06 |
| etp | +1 | 09:06 |
| ttx | Personally I'm ok with that name, as long as we set smaller-scope objectives and don't go in every direction | 09:07 |
| masahito | +1 | 09:07 |
| amorin | agree | 09:07 |
| ttx | Like if we are clear on what we want to do, the name doesn't matter much | 09:07 |
| YusukeTatsumi | +1 | 09:07 |
| ttx | #agreed Keep "large scale SIG" as the group name | 09:07 |
| ttx | #topic Volunteers for SIG chairing | 09:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Volunteers for SIG chairing (Meeting topic: large_scale_sig)" | 09:07 | |
| ttx | As I said earlier my goal here is to facilitate this discussion, and I'm happy to help chairing the group at the beginning | 09:08 |
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| ttx | As I said earlier my goal here is to facilitate this discussion, and I'm happy to help chairing the group at the beginning | 09:08 |
| ttx | err | 09:08 |
| ttx | But I'm not running a large scale deployment of openstack myself, so I'll gladly let anyone else interested take over | 09:08 |
| ttx | For now we'd need at least one person that can take over organizing the meeting when I won't be available | 09:08 |
| ttx | Is there any volunteer? | 09:08 |
| oneswig | We are at the measuring phase of a large-scale deployment, we don't have any length of operational experience to draw from either. | 09:09 |
| belmoreira | I can help | 09:09 |
| amorin | we run large scale but I am not sure I can run the group for now, I'd prefer if someone else can take the lead | 09:10 |
| ttx | belmoreira: thanks! I'll list you as co-chair. I expect to take the bulk of the chairing work, but it's always good to have two names for continuity | 09:10 |
| ttx | #info Belmiro will co-chair with Thierry for now | 09:11 |
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| ttx | unless there are other volunteers :) | 09:11 |
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| ttx | We could have three chairs, especially if someone from the APAC timezones can help cover there | 09:12 |
| ttx | and we don;t have to decide today. Two is good for now | 09:12 |
| jiaopengju | Maybe I can help. We run large scale openstack cluster in public cloud | 09:12 |
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| ttx | jiaopengju: OK, I'll list you as co-chair as well. I like the idea of having geographic distribution for those | 09:13 |
| ttx | #info Pengju Jiao will co-chair with Belmiro and Thierry | 09:14 |
| ttx | #topic Meetings | 09:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Meetings (Meeting topic: large_scale_sig)" | 09:14 | |
| ttx | Now we need to decide how we should make progress in this SIG | 09:14 |
| ttx | Do we need synchronous meetings like this one? | 09:14 |
| ttx | And if yes, how often should we have them? Is IRC fine? | 09:15 |
| ttx | Should we have a permanent IRC channel ? | 09:15 |
| ttx | (like #openstack-large-scale) | 09:15 |
| belmoreira | I like the idea to have a meeting to sync. | 09:15 |
| amorin | +1 | 09:15 |
| ttx | Personally I feel like we'll need regular meetings, at least at the start, to get it off the ground | 09:15 |
| jiaopengju | +1 | 09:16 |
| Dinesh_Bhor | +1 | 09:16 |
| YusukeTatsumi | +1 | 09:16 |
| oneswig | makes sense to me, but how often - every 2 weeks? | 09:16 |
| ttx | Should we make those weekly for now? Or every two weeks ? | 09:16 |
| ttx | hah | 09:16 |
| ttx | Weekly might just be too often | 09:16 |
| YusukeTatsumi | prefer every 2 weeks | 09:17 |
| jiaopengju | two weeks is ok for me :) | 09:17 |
| amorin | we can start with every 2 weeks | 09:17 |
| etp | +1 | 09:17 |
| masahito | Bi-weekly makes sense to me | 09:17 |
| ttx | #agreed IRC meeting every 2 weeks | 09:17 |
| belmoreira | every 2 weeks I think is a good compromise to start with | 09:17 |
| oneswig | ttx: should it cover different time zones? I'm happy with this time but could go up to +12 hours from now too | 09:18 |
| ttx | oneswig: good question. The group is currently only Europe and APAC | 09:18 |
| ttx | which is why this time makes the most sense | 09:18 |
| ttx | If we had people from the US interested, we shoudl probably find a way to rotate | 09:18 |
| ttx | but it's not the case yet... so maybe a problem for another time? | 09:19 |
| oneswig | True. Meeting every 2 weeks on this time leaves the option of an interleaved meeting at a different time. | 09:20 |
| ttx | (the trick being, there is just no convenient time for China/Japan + western Europe + US east _+US west | 09:20 |
| ttx | If we keep that day and time every two weeks, does that work for everyone (for now) ? | 09:20 |
| amorin | works for me | 09:21 |
| belmoreira | good for me | 09:21 |
| etp | works for me | 09:21 |
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| masahito | works for me | 09:21 |
| jiaopengju | works for me | 09:21 |
| ttx | Fun fact, I won;t be able to run the meeting two weeks from now at this time, being at a conf | 09:21 |
| YusukeTatsumi | good for me (from APAC/Japan) | 09:21 |
| ttx | Do you think a permanent IRC channel would help? | 09:22 |
| ttx | Or should we push as much comm as possible to the ML ? | 09:22 |
| belmoreira | for IRC we already have the openstack-operators. I think we shouldn't create a different group ("the large scale operators") but expose everything that we discuss to all operators | 09:22 |
| masahito | If not, what's the candidates for IRC channels? the openstack-operators? | 09:22 |
| ttx | I feel like leaving communication traces to the mailing-list is a great way to be transparent and encourage others to join | 09:23 |
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| ttx | We can definitely use #openstack-operators for one-off discussions | 09:23 |
| oneswig | agreed - the scientific-sig has a separate IRC channel but it is not used | 09:24 |
| amorin | Agree with ML, for the trace and being able to catch back some topics | 09:24 |
| masahito | Actually, I'm not available on IRC at night. ML is good to me as first contact points. | 09:25 |
| ttx | But I'd rather not force everyone to monitor a IRC channel all the time... | 09:25 |
| amorin | I have no strong opinion on IRC channel. openstack-operators is good for me | 09:25 |
| ttx | masahito: yes | 09:25 |
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| masahito | ah, I'm living Japan. | 09:25 |
| jiaopengju | irc channel and ML are all good for me | 09:26 |
| masahito | For interactive communication, #openstack-operators sounds good to me. | 09:26 |
| belmoreira | I agree with ML as the main communication channel. And we can use the openstack-operators for one-off discussions as ttx suggested | 09:26 |
| ttx | OK so let's use the mailing-list as our main means of communication... with prefix [large-scale] or [largescale-sig] | 09:26 |
| ttx | maybe the latter, so that it's clear it's about the SIG | 09:27 |
| ttx | Also we'll likely use a lot of etherpads as we draft goals and create documentation | 09:28 |
| ttx | that is all asynchronous and will work better across all of our timezones | 09:28 |
| ttx | Does that work? | 09:28 |
| YusukeTatsumi | +1 | 09:28 |
| jiaopengju | +1 | 09:28 |
| etp | +1 | 09:28 |
| masahito | +1 | 09:28 |
| amorin | +1 | 09:28 |
| belmoreira | +1 | 09:29 |
| Dinesh_Bhor | +1 | 09:29 |
| ttx | #agreed Use openstack-discuss with [largescale-sig] for SIG topics. Prefer etherpads and other asynchronous methods of communciation. One-off synchronous discussions in #openstack-operators | 09:29 |
| ttx | ok, is there any other logistics questions we need to solve before discussing what we'll actually do? | 09:30 |
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| ttx | #action ttx to propose large scale SIG creation changes to openstack-sigs repository | 09:31 |
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| ttx | I'll take that as a "no" | 09:32 |
| ttx | #topic Discuss initial SIG objectives | 09:32 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Discuss initial SIG objectives (Meeting topic: large_scale_sig)" | 09:32 | |
| ttx | So first of all I think it is important to set reasonable objectives | 09:32 |
| ttx | In my long experience of such groups in OpenStack history, we always start with a lot of energy | 09:32 |
| ttx | but then if we set large goals and go in every direction, that initial energy dissipates fast | 09:33 |
| ttx | especially when real world commitments start to disrupt progress | 09:33 |
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| ttx | It's a lot better to set a small goal and make steady progress toward it | 09:34 |
| ttx | rather than set a large goal and abandon it because nobody has enough time | 09:34 |
| ttx | But the group should definitely end up producing *something* | 09:35 |
| ttx | otherwise without a focal point the energy also dissipates fast :) | 09:35 |
| ttx | We had several ideas raised in the discussion we had in Shanghai | 09:35 |
| ttx | Notes at: | 09:36 |
| ttx | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/PVG-large-scale-SIG | 09:36 |
| ttx | amorin mentioned wanting to create or modify existing doc for sensible larger-scale config defaults | 09:36 |
| ttx | masahito has work within Oslo to instrument bottlenecks | 09:37 |
| belmoreira | the ML thread also adds some high level information | 09:37 |
| ttx | does anyone want to propose a topic for the group to initially focus on? | 09:37 |
| oneswig | instrumentation is my primary focus at present. | 09:38 |
| amorin | what do you mean by instrumentation? | 09:38 |
| YusukeTatsumi | what is "large scale" definition? I think about 1k compute-node on one cluster. | 09:39 |
| belmoreira | How about to gather the existing information how operators are managing large deployments. During the summits we have a lot of presentations that discuss several aspects: cells, rabbit, ... | 09:39 |
| oneswig | amorin: I'm thinking of how do I detect the bottlenecks as the system grows | 09:39 |
| amorin | ok | 09:39 |
| ttx | YusukeTatsumi: yes one issue was the difference between scale within one cluster (which was my original focus) and more generally large size deployments (lots of clusters) | 09:40 |
| ttx | Personally ai think if we focus on scaling within one cluster, it's already a large enough scope | 09:40 |
| belmoreira | signal relevant presentations in a document and maybe create a summary would help to avoid rethink a solution that maybe was solved by someone but didn't get a lot of exposure | 09:40 |
| ttx | and would raise very interesting questions | 09:40 |
| amorin | belmoreira: agree with that, and I think we can share good practices on config params within this topic | 09:40 |
| amorin | ^ was about how operators are managing large scale | 09:41 |
| ttx | Maybe that's two different axis we can work on. (1) Scaling within one cluster, and instrumentation of the bottlenecks there | 09:41 |
| ttx | (2) Document large scale configuration and tips &tricks | 09:42 |
| amorin | +1 | 09:42 |
| masahito | That makes sense. | 09:43 |
| jiaopengju | I think we should give all the users confidence in large clusters, so at first we should tell them how large about the clusters that running in product, and then show them how to do this | 09:43 |
| YusukeTatsumi | +1 | 09:43 |
| masahito | My work ttx mentioned above is related to (1) with the direction. | 09:43 |
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| ttx | A reasonable goal for (1) would be to identify the most obvious bottlenecks and start implementing instrumentation to actually be able to measure it | 09:44 |
| ttx | Reasonable goal for (2) is to produce some documentation | 09:44 |
| amorin | yup | 09:45 |
| ttx | I count masahito, oneswig interested in (1), amorin, belmoreira in (2) | 09:45 |
| YusukeTatsumi | I can join to (1) | 09:45 |
| belmoreira | honestly I think we shouldn't limit ourselves explicitly to one cell. Different workloads, use cases may require small but multiple cells. I would prefer to consider the architecture choice/botlenecks in terms of use case | 09:46 |
| jiaopengju | join (1) | 09:46 |
| oneswig | belmoreira: it's more one deployment than one cell isn't it? | 09:46 |
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| ttx | belmoreira: I agree we should not limit the scope of the SIG to one cell. But raising scaling limits within a single cell/cluster is useful for everyone imho | 09:47 |
| ttx | so it can be one of the SIG's lines of work | 09:47 |
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| belmoreira | ttx of course I agree with that | 09:48 |
| belmoreira | oneswig yes, deployment considering the use-case | 09:48 |
| ttx | There will always be a point where you have to do multiple cells and clusters... and I agree we should also discuss that within this SIG | 09:48 |
| etp | there is also growth point of view, yep | 09:49 |
| ttx | Personally I can help both subgroups with their logistics and interactions with openstack project teams | 09:49 |
| ttx | Like to set up a repo and jobs to publish docs to a website etc | 09:50 |
| ttx | or grease the wheels with Oslo reviews etc | 09:50 |
| belmoreira | ttx that's great | 09:50 |
| masahito | Thanks. | 09:51 |
| ttx | OK, so in terms of immediate actions, and to make progress between now and next meeting... maybe we can start two threads on the ML, one of each subject, to further refine plans | 09:51 |
| ttx | Goal generally being to have a more detailed plan to discuss at next meeting for both areas | 09:52 |
| ttx | Or should we brainstorm on etherpads first before dropping it on the ML? | 09:53 |
| oneswig | I recall there was an interesting discussion in Shanghai about prometheus endpoints being exposed by OpenStack services. I haven't seen any follow-up go by on that but it would be one interesting place to start. | 09:54 |
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| ttx | One issue of discussing very early steps on the ML (compared to doing it on an etherpad) is that you'll get people outside the SIG starting to shoot down crazy ideas | 09:55 |
| oneswig | I think it was in the context of a billing forum | 09:55 |
| ttx | and therefore that limits the discussion | 09:55 |
| ttx | What's your preference to further refine those two topics? | 09:55 |
| belmoreira | ttx yes :) the etherpad may be better to start the discussion | 09:55 |
| amorin | I trust your experience, etherpad is good | 09:56 |
| ttx | ok, so I'll post a summary of this meeting, and create two etherpads to refine those two topics | 09:56 |
| amorin | ok | 09:56 |
| ttx | #topic Next meeting | 09:57 |
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| ttx | #action ttx to send meeting summary and create two etherpads to further refine the two initial goals | 09:57 |
| ttx | So as I said earlier, I won;t be around at that time in two weeks | 09:57 |
| ttx | also some of us will have the end-of-year holidays after that | 09:58 |
| ttx | So I'm wondering if we should not set the next meeting to Dec 18 | 09:58 |
| amorin | december 11 I am not available neither | 09:58 |
| ttx | and then January 8 | 09:58 |
| oneswig | either date works for me | 09:58 |
| ttx | then we can go back to every 2 week | 09:59 |
| oneswig | +1 | 09:59 |
| amorin | dec 18 works for me | 09:59 |
| etp | both work for me | 09:59 |
| jiaopengju | dec 18 is fine | 09:59 |
| oneswig | have to go - thanks ttx & all - see you next time | 09:59 |
| masahito | 18 dec works for me | 09:59 |
| ttx | Alright! Thanks everyone for attending | 09:59 |
| YusukeTatsumi | ether days works | 09:59 |
| belmoreira | I will not be available in the 18 | 09:59 |
| belmoreira | i would propose to work in the scope and then we meet next year | 10:00 |
| ttx | belmoreira: will you be available to sync with amorin ahead of the meeting on Dec 18? | 10:01 |
| ttx | It's ok to miss a meeting | 10:01 |
| belmoreira | I will be off all week | 10:01 |
| amorin | arf | 10:01 |
| ttx | OK, let's continue that discussion on the ML, and free up people | 10:02 |
| ttx | #info Next meeting date to be confirmed | 10:02 |
| ttx | #endmeeting | 10:02 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 27 10:02:29 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 10:02 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/large_scale_sig/2019/large_scale_sig.2019-11-27-09.00.html | 10:02 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/large_scale_sig/2019/large_scale_sig.2019-11-27-09.00.txt | 10:02 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/large_scale_sig/2019/large_scale_sig.2019-11-27-09.00.log.html | 10:02 |
| ttx | Thanks again everyone for attending | 10:02 |
| masahito | thank! bye | 10:02 |
| YusukeTatsumi | bye~ | 10:03 |
| amorin | thanks! | 10:03 |
| etp | tnx ttx & all | 10:03 |
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| liuyulong | sorry, I'm late. Just run off a local 3 hours emergency meeting with no laptop... | 14:21 |
| liuyulong | #startmeeting neutron_l3 | 14:21 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 27 14:21:51 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is liuyulong. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:21 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:21 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 14:21 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_l3' | 14:21 |
| liuyulong | #topic Announcements | 14:22 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 14:22 | |
| liuyulong | We have merged the OVN Convergence spec. | 14:23 |
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| liuyulong | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/658414/ | 14:23 |
| liuyulong | And we also have some ovn patches are getting to the review list. | 14:23 |
| liuyulong | So I'd like to add a new topic in the L3 meeting, for OVN L3 functionality. | 14:24 |
| liuyulong | I will send this to the mail list to see the opinions from others. | 14:25 |
| liuyulong | OK, let's move on. | 14:26 |
| liuyulong | #topic Bugs | 14:26 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 14:26 | |
| liuyulong | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1853637 | 14:27 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1853637 in neutron "Assign floating IP to port owned by another tenant is not override-able with RBAC policy" [Medium,New] | 14:27 |
| liuyulong | This should be fixed IMO, I will take this. | 14:28 |
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| haleyb | liuyulong: hi, sorry figured you had canceled | 14:28 |
| bcafarel | o/ | 14:29 |
| liuyulong | It will be required for some hierarchical operators role. | 14:29 |
| bcafarel | liuyulong: slaweq will not be around for the meeting, he will catch up on logs later | 14:29 |
| liuyulong | Next one: | 14:31 |
| liuyulong | #link Hierarchical | 14:31 |
| liuyulong | #undo | 14:31 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: #link Hierarchical | 14:31 |
| liuyulong | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1853613 | 14:31 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1853613 in neutron "VMs don't get ip from dhcp after compute restart" [Undecided,New] | 14:31 |
| liuyulong | haleyb, hi | 14:32 |
| liuyulong | haleyb, a long local meeting just blocked me. | 14:32 |
| haleyb | np | 14:33 |
| liuyulong | For this DHCP bug, we have noticed same issue. | 14:33 |
| liuyulong | If a compute node was down, and up again. | 14:33 |
| liuyulong | Some VM will not get (dhcp) the address, due to the flow re-install slow progress. | 14:34 |
| haleyb | and this is the iptables_hybrid driver it looks like | 14:34 |
| liuyulong | The dhcp client inside the VM will try to request 3-5 times, and all get failed, then just VM just start without IP address. | 14:35 |
| liuyulong | We have one solution is make the NIC config a static setting inside the VM during the first start (booting) procedure. | 14:36 |
| liuyulong | And another solution is to start 10-20 VMs each time, yes as a trunk, until all get finished. | 14:38 |
| haleyb | he claimed this started after https://review.opendev.org/#/c/645408/ - the fix we did for ovs agent restarts | 14:39 |
| liuyulong | Local flow based-DHCP mechanism can not work, since physical host restart will lose all the flow, it needs to be re-install or sync data from neutron-server. | 14:39 |
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| liuyulong | Yes | 14:41 |
| liuyulong | I noticed that, but I'm not sure if it is really related. | 14:42 |
| liuyulong | Let's investigate this and try to reproduce it. | 14:46 |
| haleyb | i guess in generic terms it's a race condition when rebooting a compute node | 14:47 |
| liuyulong | No more L3 bugs from bug deputy. | 14:47 |
| liuyulong | And after a quick scan of LP bug list, also no L3 bugs. | 14:48 |
| liuyulong | #topic On demand agenda | 14:49 |
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| haleyb | i don't have any items | 14:51 |
| liuyulong | haleyb, should we add a section in this meeting for OVN L3 functionality? | 14:52 |
| haleyb | liuyulong: sure, on the gaps? | 14:53 |
| liuyulong_ | Not only gaps, but also some bugs, features or anything else need to be mentioned or discussed for the team. | 14:55 |
| haleyb | +1 | 14:55 |
| liuyulong_ | Mainly for L3, since OVN has almost full functionalities of networking. We cannot cover them all. : ) | 14:57 |
| liuyulong | OK, then, let's end here, we only have one hour time slot. | 14:58 |
| liuyulong | #endmeeting | 14:58 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 27 14:58:22 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2019/neutron_l3.2019-11-27-14.21.html | 14:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2019/neutron_l3.2019-11-27-14.21.txt | 14:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2019/neutron_l3.2019-11-27-14.21.log.html | 14:58 |
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