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| fungi | sounds like the security sig meeting is being skipped this week, but find us in #openstack-security if you have anything to need to discuss! | 15:18 |
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| SotK | #startmeeting storyboard | 18:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Oct 10 18:01:45 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SotK. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: storyboard)" | 18:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'storyboard' | 18:01 |
| SotK | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/StoryBoard (rough) Agenda | 18:02 |
| SotK | I've failed to remember to update that, but I didn't have anything in particular to add to it anyway | 18:03 |
| SotK | #topic Announcements | 18:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: storyboard)" | 18:03 | |
| SotK | I don't believe there's anything to announce this week | 18:03 |
| SotK | diablo_rojo? | 18:03 |
| fungi | nothing to my knowledge | 18:03 |
| fungi | there's a thing comnig up in shanghai | 18:04 |
| diablo_rojo | Nope nothing new | 18:04 |
| SotK | #topic Migration Updates | 18:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Migration Updates (Meeting topic: storyboard)" | 18:05 | |
| diablo_rojo | None here either. | 18:05 |
| diablo_rojo | Kind of in a holding pattern until the speed enhavcements and the attachment land | 18:06 |
| diablo_rojo | *attachements | 18:06 |
| fungi | i did see the migration docs change get reviewed | 18:06 |
| SotK | yep, that's what I thought | 18:06 |
| diablo_rojo | Yeah that was nice :) | 18:06 |
| diablo_rojo | Thanks again for that | 18:06 |
| SotK | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/680235/ | 18:06 |
| fungi | #link https://review.opendev.org/680235 Adds Migration Docs to Dashboard | 18:07 |
| fungi | oops | 18:07 |
| SotK | heh, your link is better | 18:07 |
| SotK | np | 18:07 |
| SotK | I'll try to get to actually doing some of the million other things I've said I'll do at some point | 18:08 |
| SotK | the fact I've found energy to do some reviews at last is a good sign :) | 18:08 |
| fungi | i did go through a couple weeks ago and start getting the projects which have migrated and are under openstack vmt oversight in better shape | 18:08 |
| fungi | now if someone opens a security-related private story for any of the covered deliverables, the openstack-security team is auto-added | 18:09 |
| fungi | which is what i renamed the generic old "vmt" team to for ease of discoverability | 18:09 |
| SotK | nice, its good to see that feature getting used | 18:09 |
| SotK | the team management in project-config stuff you're working on looks nice too | 18:10 |
| fungi | SotK also talked me through enough of the perms schema that i was able to insert myself into and audit all existing private stories | 18:10 |
| fungi | more than half were test stories, but for the ones which looked like legitimate defect reports i worked out who would be best to add to them and did that | 18:10 |
| SotK | #topic In Progress Work | 18:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "In Progress Work (Meeting topic: storyboard)" | 18:11 | |
| SotK | (I think we've moved off migration updates) | 18:11 |
| fungi | yeah | 18:11 |
| SotK | is there anything more that we could do in storyboard to help with the private stories stuff? | 18:12 |
| SotK | now that the auto-permissions stuff is being used I mean | 18:12 |
| fungi | well, that was about lingering semi-blockers for projects who went ahead and migrated anyway | 18:12 |
| fungi | but yeah | 18:12 |
| fungi | i've drafted up a schema for managing teams and project associations in git: | 18:12 |
| fungi | #link https://review.opendev.org/685778 Record vulnerability management teams used in SB | 18:13 |
| fungi | started looking into whether the associated automation should be implemented the same way we currently perform project and project-group additions | 18:13 |
| fungi | quickly concluded that no, it's a horrible anti-pattern | 18:14 |
| fungi | for that we have a puppet exec which fires an overloaded storyboard-dbmanage subcommand to ingest the project and project-group info from the project-config projects.yaml file | 18:14 |
| SotK | yeah, not doing more of that kind of thing sounds like a good idea to me | 18:15 |
| fungi | for the new work (which i would also like to switch that stuff over to) i think i'm going with ansible interpreting the projects.yaml and using python module which creates/updates/removes resources by way of the rest api authenticated with a token | 18:15 |
| diablo_rojo | Yeah I think when I was talking to keystone about stuff a while back they were also opposed to that way | 18:15 |
| fungi | right, having configuration management almost directly interfacing with the backend db seems like dangertown | 18:16 |
| fungi | anyway, that's where i'm at now | 18:16 |
| fungi | but the upshot is that project maintainers ought to have a good self-service mechanism to take care of their team rosters and project association | 18:17 |
| fungi | backed by revision control and code review | 18:17 |
| fungi | which is really the last piece of the puzzle for vmt needs | 18:18 |
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| SotK | nice, that approach seems good to me | 18:19 |
| diablo_rojo | Yeah that sounds good to me too | 18:20 |
| SotK | I don't really have anything to mention in-progress | 18:20 |
| SotK | anything else? | 18:20 |
| diablo_rojo | I got nothing atm | 18:21 |
| diablo_rojo | I will make it a point to poke mordred again about sql magic | 18:21 |
| fungi | i still need to perform the experiment i mentioned a few weeks ago about restarting rabbit and friends to see what happens to query times | 18:22 |
| fungi | wrt pressure on cache memory | 18:22 |
| SotK | oh, I feel like there's been a couple of instances of people having weird login trouble recently too, was that just intermittent issues with ubuntu one? | 18:23 |
| diablo_rojo | I havent had any of those issues, but I think I saw johnsom having the issue the other day? | 18:24 |
| diablo_rojo | fungi, talked to him? | 18:24 |
| fungi | SotK: oh, i have a story to open after doing a bit more research | 18:24 |
| diablo_rojo | fungi, oh? | 18:24 |
| fungi | but in short, i think the reproducer is this: | 18:24 |
| fungi | while logged in, create a private story | 18:24 |
| fungi | log out and attempt to go to the url of the story | 18:25 |
| fungi | use the login button to log in because you can't see the private story otherwise | 18:25 |
| fungi | the redirect url handed off to the openid provider is nonfunctional, which causes authentication to blow up in weird ways | 18:25 |
| diablo_rojo | Oh interesting | 18:26 |
| fungi | or at least it's nonfunctional for clients which try to hit it without authentication, which includes the openid provider | 18:26 |
| diablo_rojo | Huh | 18:26 |
| fungi | his case was basically this: | 18:26 |
| fungi | had been travelling away from computer for a few days so sb login session expired | 18:27 |
| fungi | received e-mail referring to the url of a private story | 18:27 |
| fungi | followed that url but couldn't see it because wasn't logged in | 18:27 |
| fungi | tried to log in, got cryptic error | 18:27 |
| SotK | huh, that's an annoying one | 18:28 |
| fungi | i encountered the same sort of scenario when i was auditing private stories too, which is why i'm pretty sure this is the problem, but i need to try to spend a few minutes recreating it to confirm | 18:28 |
| fungi | the workaround of course is to go to a working sb page anonymous clients can access and then log in from there | 18:29 |
| fungi | then go to the private story url once authenticated | 18:29 |
| diablo_rojo | Makes sense. | 18:31 |
| SotK | yeah, at least its easy enough to work around | 18:31 |
| diablo_rojo | Thankfully not crippiling, but something to clean up as soon as we can. | 18:31 |
| SotK | I guess we need to do some checking in the backend when generating the redirect URL | 18:32 |
| fungi | the bigger issue is that it's confusing users, luckily it won't be hit often | 18:32 |
| johnsom | The other problem we are hitting is the duplicate names for people. I.e. which is the right one to give private access | 18:33 |
| johnsom | Or assign stories to | 18:33 |
| fungi | i've found and deactivated a handful of duplicate accounts so far when they've come to my attention | 18:33 |
| diablo_rojo | Maybe we can gather a list of higher profile bugs to work on. I did have NDSU reach out to me about another round of mentoring/students working on OpenStack. | 18:34 |
| fungi | as far as accounts with similar names, we're hoping to display e-mail addresses alongside them like gerrit does | 18:34 |
| johnsom | fungi there are two “Michael Johnson”s | 18:34 |
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| johnsom | Is there an ETA on the email addresses? | 18:35 |
| SotK | oh man I thought I'd already reviewed that patch | 18:36 |
| fungi | johnsom: i can confirm, looks like those are distinct people, one with a sas.com e-mail address and another with a gmail.com address | 18:36 |
| SotK | I will do so after this meeting, ETA next day or so hopefully :) | 18:36 |
| fungi | separate ubuntu one openids | 18:36 |
| johnsom | Yeah, I was never at sas | 18:36 |
| johnsom | Who knows how many stories I have assigned them... lol | 18:37 |
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| diablo_rojo | SotK, whenever you get a sec to review it :) | 18:38 |
| fungi | johnsom: as far as adding to security-related stories, i hope my team management work will simplify that because a security team including the right user can just be granted access instead | 18:38 |
| fungi | johnsom: if they do the work, maybe it's a blessing in disguise ;) | 18:38 |
| diablo_rojo | LOL | 18:38 |
| johnsom | I wish! | 18:38 |
| SotK | haha | 18:39 |
| SotK | anything else folk want to raise about in progress stuff? | 18:40 |
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| fungi | i did switch a bunch of private opendev/storyboard stories public and then deleted them | 18:40 |
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| diablo_rojo | SotK, I think you can +W the two changes of mine you have +2ed | 18:40 |
| fungi | because people were opening stories against the sb project thinking it was a testing sandbox | 18:40 |
| diablo_rojo | unless fungi wants to | 18:41 |
| fungi | which two? | 18:41 |
| SotK | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/645960/ and https://review.opendev.org/#/c/680235/ | 18:41 |
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| fungi | ahh, right, those | 18:42 |
| fungi | and approved | 18:42 |
| SotK | thanks! | 18:42 |
| fungi | thank you! | 18:43 |
| diablo_rojo | Thanks! | 18:43 |
| fungi | it's a thank-you party | 18:44 |
| SotK | #topic PTG + Forum | 18:45 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "PTG + Forum (Meeting topic: storyboard)" | 18:45 | |
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| SotK | do we have anything we need to do for this at the moment? | 18:45 |
| fungi | i may be cheering from the sidelines if the chinese embassy doesn't hurry up with my visa | 18:46 |
| fungi | but no, i think we're fairly prepared | 18:46 |
| fungi | or entirely unprepared but are just going to "wing it" anyway | 18:46 |
| SotK | sounds good (except the visa part) :) | 18:48 |
| SotK | #topic Open Discussion | 18:48 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: storyboard)" | 18:48 | |
| diablo_rojo | I dont think our Forum session got selected. | 18:48 |
| diablo_rojo | But we do have space on the PTG schedule | 18:48 |
| diablo_rojo | But yeah, can just see who is around and wing it | 18:49 |
| fungi | which we were going to use for show-and-tell/onboarding/whatever | 18:49 |
| fungi | teach people about storyboard features | 18:49 |
| diablo_rojo | Yeah the forum session was going to be onboarding users | 18:49 |
| diablo_rojo | and the features | 18:49 |
| diablo_rojo | but if those people show up to the PTG session I am fine to teach them that there instead of teaching folks how to develop for storyboard | 18:50 |
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| SotK | #undo | 18:50 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: #topic Open Discussion | 18:50 |
| SotK | yeah, just doing that at the PTG instead makes sense if folks are interested | 18:50 |
| diablo_rojo | Happy to do whatever people request | 18:51 |
| SotK | thanks :) | 18:51 |
| diablo_rojo | I got nothing else today :) | 18:51 |
| SotK | in that case, lets finish a little early | 18:52 |
| SotK | thanks for coming folks! | 18:52 |
| SotK | #endmeeting | 18:52 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 18:52 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Oct 10 18:52:50 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:52 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/2019/storyboard.2019-10-10-18.01.html | 18:52 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/2019/storyboard.2019-10-10-18.01.txt | 18:52 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/2019/storyboard.2019-10-10-18.01.log.html | 18:52 |
| fungi | thanks SotK! | 18:53 |
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