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brinzhang | amotoki: Could you please review this patch for horizon, he changes to Django based implementation too. https://review.opendev.org/#/c/664132 | 09:18 |
patchbot | patch 664132 - horizon - Add container_format 'ovf' when editing image - 10 patch sets | 09:18 |
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amotoki | brinzhang: ??? I am surprised that the meeting channel is used. | 10:30 |
brinzhang | amotoki: maybe I should find you in #openstack-horizon channel, next :) | 10:31 |
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efried | #startmeeting nova | 14:01 |
openstack | Meeting started Thu Sep 5 14:01:31 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is efried. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:01 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:01 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:01 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova' | 14:01 |
cdent | hi | 14:01 |
mriedem | o/ | 14:01 |
takashin | o/ | 14:01 |
gmann | o/ | 14:02 |
dansmith | o/ | 14:02 |
efried | #link agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 14:02 |
gibi | \o | 14:02 |
efried | #topic Last meeting | 14:03 |
efried | #link Minutes from last meeting: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2019/nova.2019-08-29-21.01.html | 14:03 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Last meeting (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:03 | |
stephenfin | o/ | 14:03 |
efried | Last week it was just me, mriedem, and aspiers. We decided not to approve https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/policy-rule-for-host-status-unknown for Train. | 14:03 |
efried | melwitt wasn't there to defend herself | 14:03 |
efried | #topic Release News | 14:04 |
efried | Feature freeze in one week. | 14:04 |
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efried | We have many things that are pretty close. | 14:05 |
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efried | It may be worthwhile to have a list of those things somewhere. | 14:06 |
dansmith | maybe we should call out some here? | 14:06 |
dansmith | I can start and summarize NUMA LM if you want | 14:06 |
efried | hit it | 14:06 |
efried | #link NUMA LM: https://review.opendev.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/numa-aware-live-migration | 14:07 |
mriedem | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/673133/ was +2 yesterday and i'll likely +2 today | 14:07 |
patchbot | patch 673133 - nova - Add delete_on_termination to volume-attach API - 16 patch sets | 14:07 |
dansmith | NUMA LM is close, has seen a lot of review, is four patches (not counting an extra test patch and a conf deprecation), and actually has CI tests that prove the new code in public | 14:07 |
dansmith | it enables us to migrate instances with numa topologies instead of silently screwing up hosts when we allow it to happen (as today) and moves that code to use the same claims process as other migrations | 14:08 |
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dansmith | bottom three patches have a +2 from me, radeks is going to look today | 14:08 |
dansmith | fin. | 14:08 |
dansmith | whoopsie, mriedem :) | 14:08 |
efried | #link AMD SEV https://review.opendev.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/amd-sev-libvirt-support | 14:09 |
mriedem | also seems like forbidden aggregates should get another push | 14:09 |
efried | This is close, has seen a lot of review | 14:09 |
efried | aspiers has been responsive to feedback. Much of the series has been +2ed at various points in the past. | 14:09 |
mriedem | i feel like there are new sev patches every day | 14:10 |
mriedem | but that's just because i see them posted to the bp in lp | 14:10 |
dansmith | I haven't followed the SEV stuff, but I thought it was still struggling | 14:10 |
mriedem | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/support-move-ops-with-qos-ports is getting review from myself and bauzas, should be doable by next week | 14:10 |
gibi | I focus on that ^^ | 14:10 |
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efried | #link virtual persistent memory https://review.opendev.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/virtual-persistent-memory | 14:12 |
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efried | stephenfin and I have been reviewing the bulk of the series. Otherwise need dansmith's nod on the bottom two patches. | 14:12 |
dansmith | I just would-be--2'd the second patch | 14:12 |
dansmith | because it stores an unversioned json blob in a string field | 14:13 |
dansmith | so some more object modeling is needed there | 14:13 |
efried | when that object is hypervisor-specific, is there still a way to model it generically at this level? | 14:13 |
dansmith | see the live migrate data object hierarchy | 14:14 |
efried | ack | 14:14 |
dansmith | json-in-a-string-field is never going to be the answer though | 14:14 |
efried | ack | 14:14 |
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efried | #link forbidden aggregates https://review.opendev.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/placement-req-filter-forbidden-aggregates | 14:15 |
efried | has been really close for quite a while, is very simple, has had lots of +2s | 14:15 |
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gibi | I can re-review that ^^ | 14:16 |
dansmith | I will take a look at that when we're done here | 14:16 |
dansmith | at least the object stuff | 14:16 |
dansmith | object and b | 14:16 |
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efried | IIRC I was basically +2 all the way up, just waiting for the other reviewers who have weighed in to make sure they're satisfied. | 14:17 |
efried | stephenfin: I think that's you on the bottom one? | 14:17 |
stephenfin | which bottom one? | 14:17 |
efried | and/or gibi, dansmith | 14:17 |
efried | stephenfin: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/671072/11 | 14:17 |
patchbot | patch 671072 - nova - Nova object changes for forbidden aggregates reque... - 11 patch sets | 14:17 |
stephenfin | Sure. dansmith should look too though | 14:18 |
dansmith | yep, I will right after this | 14:18 |
efried | and top one | 14:18 |
efried | Okay, what else is close for FF? | 14:18 |
mriedem | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/train is relatively up to date if that helps | 14:19 |
mriedem | for what's open | 14:19 |
mriedem | lots of things in there should probably just be deferred at this point | 14:19 |
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efried | gadzooks | 14:20 |
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efried | oh, ignore 'implemented' | 14:20 |
efried | phew, that's easier on the eyes. | 14:21 |
efried | still 23 opens | 14:21 |
dansmith | is the cyborg stuff not happening? | 14:21 |
dansmith | I haven't re-looked at that in a few weeks | 14:21 |
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bauzas | I plan to do a couple of other reviews next week | 14:21 |
dansmith | but it seemed like not much review was going on at the time | 14:21 |
mriedem | i don't think any cores are reviewing the cyborg series | 14:22 |
efried | cyborg hasn't gotten enough review attention | 14:22 |
efried | yeah | 14:22 |
dansmith | so is that a defer already? | 14:22 |
bauzas | mriedem: I can do that if that helps | 14:22 |
mriedem | i would defer it, | 14:22 |
efried | Seems likely a defer, unfortunately. | 14:22 |
mriedem | the cyborg side patches for placement integration just merged this week | 14:22 |
bauzas | k | 14:22 |
* bauzas bbiab | 14:22 | |
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mriedem | anywho, we shouldn't step through these one by one in this meeting, | 14:23 |
mriedem | this is where an etherpad of what's open and its status would be useful | 14:23 |
mriedem | to sort out what should be deferred and what's close | 14:23 |
efried | agreed. Can I get a volunteer to put that together? | 14:23 |
dansmith | maybe eric propose a list of things to go ahead and defer | 14:23 |
dansmith | and we can review it | 14:23 |
efried | I would hate for the time spent on PM crap to detract from review time to the point of affecting what is able to land. | 14:24 |
efried | and you can quote me on that. | 14:24 |
efried | but see the necessity. | 14:24 |
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dansmith | well, don't do it then | 14:25 |
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dansmith | we can just see what lands and then mark everything that doesn't after the dust settles | 14:25 |
efried | let me put it this way: | 14:26 |
mriedem | i'll defer cross-cell-resize i know that's not happening | 14:26 |
gibi | mriedem: at least we tried | 14:26 |
mriedem | gibi: it's a multi-release effort anyway, i have no illusions about that | 14:27 |
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efried | I see the list exercise going one of two ways | 14:28 |
efried | 1) I (or someone) put together this list and prioritize it and the core team looks at it and reviews things in priority order. | 14:28 |
efried | 2) List is put together and we spend the next week arguing about priorities and not reviewing. | 14:28 |
efried | given history, which do you think is more likely? | 14:28 |
efried | so | 14:28 |
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efried | let's take a spin through the blueprints today and defer the things that are obviously deferrable | 14:28 |
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efried | and let the rest sit as dansmith suggests and sweep up the pieces after FF. | 14:29 |
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mriedem | sounds good | 14:29 |
dansmith | to be clear, that was not my suggestion :) | 14:29 |
dansmith | that was my concession if we're not going to plan, but whatever :) | 14:29 |
* gmann thinking about policy-defaults-refresh | 14:29 | |
mriedem | gmann: if it hasn't had core review yet it's likely DOA for train | 14:30 |
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efried | dansmith: concession is a good word for it. I'm in an unusually (for me) cynical mood at the moment, but I don't feel like "planning" is going to have an impact for the positive. | 14:31 |
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gmann | mriedem: its lot of changes and first set and framework has one one +2 | 14:31 |
dansmith | efried: roger that, as long as we're clear | 14:31 |
efried | I could go through and say "we're going to do these things, and we're not going to do these other things" | 14:31 |
dansmith | efried: and for the cliche auditors: failure to plan is planning to fail :P | 14:31 |
efried | but there's no way to enforce the plan | 14:32 |
dansmith | nope, it's lead by example | 14:32 |
dansmith | it's cool | 14:32 |
dansmith | I'm hip, let's just move on | 14:32 |
efried | give me a sec | 14:33 |
efried | #action efried to defer obviously-deferrable blueprints | 14:35 |
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efried | #topic Bugs (stuck/critical) | 14:35 |
efried | No Critical bugs | 14:35 |
efried | #link 76 new untriaged bugs (+1 since the last meeting): https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?search=Search&field.status=New | 14:35 |
efried | #link 4 untagged untriaged bugs (-2 since the last meeting): https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.tag=-*&field.status%3Alist=NEW | 14:35 |
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efried | any bugs we should be prioritizing in the next week? | 14:36 |
mriedem | someone more in the know should triage this https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1842616 | 14:36 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1842616 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "NUMA vcpus not correctly allocated against numa regions" [Undecided,New] | 14:36 |
mriedem | stephenfin: yonglihe: sean-k-mooney: ^ | 14:36 |
efried | artom: ^ | 14:36 |
artom | efried, looking | 14:36 |
efried | if possible I would like to reserve stephenfin for core reviews | 14:36 |
efried | thanks artom | 14:36 |
efried | #topic Gate status | 14:37 |
efried | #link check queue gate status http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/index.html | 14:37 |
efried | #link 3rd party CI status (seems to be back in action) http://ciwatch.mmedvede.net/project?project=nova | 14:37 |
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efried | anecdotally, grenade-y stuff failing pretty frequently of late. I haven't looked into it at all. mriedem, have you? | 14:37 |
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mriedem | not off the top of my head | 14:38 |
mriedem | i've been looking at failures but not aware of anything obvious / known | 14:38 |
efried | ight. It can probably wait until crunch is over. | 14:38 |
cdent | a few days ago some cinder stuff was unhappy, but it cleared up. | 14:38 |
efried | #topic Reminders | 14:38 |
efried | Feature freeze in one week | 14:38 |
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efried | any other reminders? | 14:38 |
efried | #topic Stable branch status | 14:39 |
efried | #link stable/stein: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+(project:openstack/os-vif+OR+project:openstack/python-novaclient+OR+project:openstack/nova)+branch:stable/stein | 14:39 |
efried | #link stable/rocky: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+(project:openstack/os-vif+OR+project:openstack/python-novaclient+OR+project:openstack/nova)+branch:stable/rocky | 14:39 |
efried | #link stable/queens: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+(project:openstack/os-vif+OR+project:openstack/python-novaclient+OR+project:openstack/nova)+branch:stable/queens | 14:39 |
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efried | mriedem: anything in stable we can't ignore for a week? | 14:39 |
mriedem | i haven't looked lately so idk | 14:39 |
efried | k | 14:39 |
efried | #topic Sub/related team Highlights | 14:39 |
efried | Placement (cdent) | 14:39 |
efried | #link latest pupdate http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-August/008935.html | 14:39 |
efried | Consumer Types: cdent continuing this work | 14:39 |
efried | #link consumer types (in progress) https://review.opendev.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/placement+branch:master+topic:bp/support-consumer-types | 14:39 |
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efried | cdent: your mic | 14:39 |
cdent | that consumer types stuff is basically done, so if people want something to look at in between things that are higher priority, it could become "ready for nova in U" pretty easily | 14:40 |
cdent | the only other thing is that placement is currently PTL-less for U, but there are a few plan bs available, waiting on more info to figure it out, not critical rush | 14:41 |
cdent | EOF | 14:41 |
* mriedem read that as plan bullsh*t | 14:41 | |
cdent | might work too | 14:41 |
cdent | but I meant Bs | 14:41 |
cdent | beeeeeees | 14:41 |
gibi | plan c can be the polite cannibalism.. | 14:42 |
cdent | quite so | 14:42 |
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efried | API (gmann) | 14:42 |
efried | did not get the chance to send updates on ML. Few highlights are: | 14:42 |
efried | microversion 2.78 is on gate: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/621476/ which need Brin 'delete_on_termination' to rebase. | 14:42 |
efried | Added policy-defaults-refresh BP in runway. First set and framework has +2 from kenichi and need second review. | 14:42 |
patchbot | patch 621476 - nova - Add server sub-resource topology API (MERGED) - 62 patch sets | 14:42 |
artom | This https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1842616 is invalid | 14:42 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1842616 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "NUMA vcpus not correctly allocated against numa regions" [Undecided,Invalid] | 14:42 |
artom | *Think | 14:42 |
* artom -> back to his corner | 14:42 | |
gmann | main updates was for policy-defaults-refresh which i will wait for final decision | 14:42 |
gmann | it is updates for all the policies and we should do it in single cycle. | 14:43 |
gmann | for upgrade benefits | 14:43 |
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efried | #link policy defaults refresh https://review.opendev.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/policy-defaults-refresh | 14:44 |
efried | gmann: how much of that are you realistically expecting for Train? | 14:44 |
gmann | efried: if i read it properly. tomorrow is going to be the list of possible go in Train ? | 14:44 |
mriedem | FF is next thursday | 14:44 |
mriedem | the question is how much should we spread the core team on things and risk not landing many, or rushing and merging regressions, | 14:45 |
efried | gmann: The only thing I'm going to do is defer things that are obviously not going to make it. Whatever's left is going to be wild west style. Because trying to organize anything more crisp is an exercise in futility and frustration. | 14:45 |
mriedem | or focusing on a smaller set that are already being actively reviewed | 14:45 |
gmann | till next Thursday will not be possible i think. we can get scope things in if we try but that also lot of patches | 14:45 |
mriedem | probably not a surprise that i'm goign to say i don't feel great about rushing in policy change stuff last minute | 14:46 |
mriedem | since that impacts upgrades | 14:46 |
gmann | ok, in that case I will say defer and get all policy changes in in ussuri | 14:46 |
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gmann | mriedem: agree. | 14:46 |
efried | gmann: starting here https://review.opendev.org/#/c/674038/5 ? | 14:46 |
patchbot | patch 674038 - nova - Pass RequestContext to oslo_policy - 5 patch sets | 14:46 |
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gmann | efried: yes | 14:47 |
gmann | till here it is for one API policy - https://review.opendev.org/#/c/648480/16 | 14:47 |
patchbot | patch 648480 - nova - Add new default roles in os-services API policies - 16 patch sets | 14:47 |
gmann | kind of 4 patches per API policy | 14:47 |
efried | okay, I put a -2 on that patch, moved the bp to Needs Approval and targeted for series ussuri | 14:48 |
efried | mriedem: any other paperwork necessary to defer a thing? | 14:48 |
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gmann | ok | 14:49 |
mriedem | efried: nope, i just leave a comment in the whiteboard saying why it's being deferred | 14:50 |
efried | thx | 14:50 |
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efried | #topic Stuck Reviews | 14:50 |
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mriedem | i just did that in the policy defaults bp | 14:50 |
efried | any? | 14:50 |
efried | mriedem: oh, no merge conflict in bp whiteboard, you overwrote my note | 14:50 |
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mriedem | why don't they use generations? | 14:50 |
efried | #topic Open discussion | 14:51 |
efried | Move/kill 2100 meeting slot? | 14:51 |
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mriedem | the alternative to that is leave 2100 and change this meeting to be more APAC/EU friendly | 14:52 |
mriedem | ? | 14:52 |
mriedem | obviously would need a different chair for that | 14:52 |
dansmith | so, once DST goes, I can't attend this slot | 14:52 |
dansmith | the 2100 one is the only one I would make | 14:52 |
gibi | I can chair an EU friendly slot | 14:52 |
dansmith | I expect that's the same for anyone in Pacific time | 14:52 |
efried | So I guess just making all the meetings be in this slot isn't an option. And I'm guessing the slots an hour or two later are probably pretty chocobloc | 14:53 |
cdent | so, for reference, the is the one openstack meeting I've ever attended that is actually useful | 14:53 |
mriedem | so maybe suggest options in the ML, see if there is interest in moving this meeting to APAC/EU friendly time and if so but after a month or two no one shows up we could cancel it - or just outright cancel this one | 14:53 |
cdent | maybe wait until after FF | 14:54 |
cdent | or even RC | 14:54 |
efried | yeah, let's do that. | 14:54 |
efried | It may have just been an anomaly (for several meetings in a row) that attendance at the later meeting was almost nonexistent. | 14:55 |
efried | (mriedem): Should we deprecate the xen driver before releasing Train? We added a quality warning https://review.opendev.org/#/c/662295/ with the idea of deprecating if no changes and there haven't been. Deprecation doesn't mean we remove in U but it leaves the option and sends a clear signal. | 14:55 |
patchbot | patch 662295 - nova - xenapi: log quality warning in init_host (MERGED) - 1 patch set | 14:55 |
mriedem | just following up on the plan from the ptg | 14:55 |
cdent | yes, follow through | 14:56 |
mriedem | quality warning post-ptg, deprecation by end of train of no improvement | 14:56 |
mriedem | *if | 14:56 |
efried | Yeah, I haven't seen any xen activity, so pull the trigger. Is this a trigger that can wait a week to be pulled? | 14:56 |
* bauzas is back - sorry, taxi dad | 14:56 | |
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cdent | 3 minute warning | 14:57 |
efried | mriedem: that last question was for you. Guess it doesn't need to be answered right now | 14:57 |
efried | any other opens? | 14:57 |
efried | today is my birthday | 14:58 |
mriedem | well happy birthday | 14:58 |
efried | one year ago today I seem to recall we merged roughly my-age patches toward placement extraction | 14:58 |
gmann | happy birthday :) | 14:58 |
dansmith | efried: deprecation can be done now with no ill effects, not much point in waiting I think | 14:58 |
cdent | that was a year ago? | 14:58 |
cdent | jeebus | 14:58 |
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efried | ikr, it must have been, but I had a hard time believing that | 14:58 |
cdent | happy birthday efried and placement extraction | 14:58 |
bauzas | good b'day | 14:59 |
efried | thanks all | 14:59 |
efried | Okay, if there's nothing else...? | 14:59 |
cdent | kill it | 14:59 |
efried | Oh, and I'm taking the afternoon off | 14:59 |
efried | o/ | 14:59 |
efried | #endmeeting | 14:59 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Thu Sep 5 14:59:35 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:59 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2019/nova.2019-09-05-14.01.html | 14:59 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2019/nova.2019-09-05-14.01.txt | 14:59 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2019/nova.2019-09-05-14.01.log.html | 14:59 |
gagehugo | #startmeeting security | 15:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Thu Sep 5 15:00:09 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gagehugo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'security' | 15:00 |
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gagehugo | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/security-agenda agenda | 15:00 |
gagehugo | o/ | 15:01 |
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fungi | quiet meeting ;) | 15:05 |
gagehugo | yup | 15:13 |
gagehugo | fungi: anything new? | 15:13 |
gagehugo | otherwise we can end early | 15:13 |
fungi | #link https://launchpad.net/bugs/1841933 Fetching metadata via LB may result with wrong instance data | 15:14 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1841933 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Fetching metadata via LB may result with wrong instance data" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Kobi Samoray (ksamoray) | 15:15 |
fungi | that's public as of a few minutes ago | 15:15 |
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gagehugo | cool | 15:17 |
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fungi | i had nothing else, this week has been a bit of a washout for me | 15:19 |
gagehugo | Are you getting a visit from Dorian? | 15:20 |
fungi | not personally, because i evacuated. my house on the other hand... watching and waiting | 15:20 |
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gagehugo | ah ok, hopefully it's not too bad then | 15:24 |
gagehugo | gonna end early, thanks fungi, hope everything stays calm there | 15:24 |
gagehugo | #endmeeting | 15:24 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Thu Sep 5 15:24:51 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:24 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2019/security.2019-09-05-15.00.html | 15:24 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2019/security.2019-09-05-15.00.txt | 15:24 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2019/security.2019-09-05-15.00.log.html | 15:24 |
fungi | thanks gagehugo! | 15:25 |
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