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| zhangchi | #startmeeting tricircle | 01:02 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Aug 14 01:02:56 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is zhangchi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 01:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 01:02 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tricircle' | 01:03 |
| zhangchi | Hi Morning welcome back | 01:04 |
| zhangchi | Time's up for tricircle bio-weely meeting | 01:04 |
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| zhangchi | Hello Yipei and XSM_HUST | 01:37 |
| zhangchi | Thanks for attending | 01:37 |
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| Yipei | hi, zhangchi | 01:38 |
| XSM_HUST | Hello | 01:38 |
| zhangchi | Nice to meet you Yipei and XSM_HUST. | 01:38 |
| zhangchi | How thing's going about the container test recently? | 01:39 |
| XSM_HUST | sorry. Because of summer vacation, nothing has progressed recently. | 01:42 |
| zhangchi | Oh sad to see But it is ok :) | 01:44 |
| XSM_HUST | The kuryr team hasn‘t fixed the bug that I submited. | 01:45 |
| zhangchi | Yes I saw it we will prompt the bp | 01:48 |
| XSM_HUST | Should we write a doc in advance and say what needs to be modified? | 01:49 |
| XSM_HUST | Then,once the bug has fixed we will continue to complete the next work. | 01:51 |
| zhangchi | Good idea we will refresh it. most bp has finished following the etherpad. plans need to be freshed | 01:51 |
| zhangchi | And We plan to delivery the stein version in the next two or three month | 01:51 |
| zhangchi | The new work need to be done in advance will refresh soon | 01:52 |
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| XSM_HUST | ok | 01:53 |
| zhangchi | Thanks for attending and good advice The next meeting 's 28th August | 01:56 |
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| zhangchi | Welcome to see you all | 02:06 |
| zhangchi | Bye | 02:06 |
| zhangchi | #endmeeting | 02:06 |
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| Yipei | bye | 02:06 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Aug 14 02:06:46 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 02:06 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tricircle/2019/tricircle.2019-08-14-01.02.html | 02:06 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tricircle/2019/tricircle.2019-08-14-01.02.txt | 02:06 |
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| b1airo | Evening | 11:05 |
| janders | hey Blair! | 11:06 |
| janders | it must be pretty late in your timezone.. | 11:06 |
| b1airo | How goes it janders ? | 11:06 |
| janders | not too bad | 11:07 |
| janders | making some progress with these CX6es | 11:07 |
| janders | and got some older loaner cards in the interim | 11:07 |
| janders | how are things at your end? | 11:07 |
| b1airo | Yeah tis, I'm up late providing Fitbit IT support to my Nana - true story | 11:07 |
| b1airo | #startmeeting scientific-sig | 11:08 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Aug 14 11:08:03 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is b1airo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 11:08 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 11:08 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'scientific_sig' | 11:08 |
| b1airo | Better do that before you go on any further :-) | 11:08 |
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| janders | we'll get them to work... eventually :) | 11:09 |
| b1airo | What did you figure out with the CX-6 breakouts? | 11:09 |
| janders | no, not yet, we focused on the VPI aspect | 11:09 |
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| janders | but the word from the reseller is "they might take a bit longer to get work, but when the become fully supported, they will remain so for their lifetime" | 11:10 |
| janders | backed with experience with few older generations | 11:10 |
| janders | hopefully that's true cause the breakouts would allow some really efficient, blocking, storage-optimised topologies | 11:10 |
| b1airo | Ok, so firmware and more likely needed? Are they Dell models? | 11:10 |
| janders | think 72 blades a rack on a single HDR switch | 11:11 |
| janders | the cards are vanilla mlnx | 11:11 |
| janders | servers are Intel | 11:11 |
| b1airo | Right, sounds not dissimilar to the PCI issues we had with vanilla CX-4s in Dell C6420s | 11:12 |
| b1airo | I'm guessing we don't have oneswig or martial this evening... I may have missed that from them in Slack earlier today | 11:13 |
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| janders | ah.. slack.. I need to re-join it | 11:13 |
| janders | my chrome crapped out the other day (essentially it would render a black box on startup). I had to delete most of the history/cache/config to recover and that kicked me out of my slack spaces | 11:14 |
| janders | do you have any experience with ironic and UEFI hardware? | 11:14 |
| janders | it's the first time I'm using UEFI servers (due to Intel's strong preference for it) and seeing some real weirdness | 11:15 |
| b1airo | Yes, insofar as we avoided it with our initial Ironic testing at Monash. Not sure if the guys got past that yet | 11:15 |
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| janders | sorry I got kicked out | 11:18 |
| b1airo | No probs, another Chrome crash? | 11:19 |
| janders | what I'm seeing is: the first provisioning attempt *just works* any subsequent ones are hit and miss. It looks like Ironic intermittently fails to PXEboot UEFI nodes | 11:19 |
| janders | does this seem familiar? | 11:19 |
| janders | this time it looks like freenode glitch and no success with auto-reconnect | 11:19 |
| janders | had to leave and rejoin | 11:19 |
| janders | we only need UEFI to have support for VROC which doesn't work particularly well with Ironic anyway, so I might have a go at switching these servers to legacy boot | 11:20 |
| janders | but curious if it's just our setup or something more common | 11:21 |
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| b1airo | Hmm not sure I'm afraid. Sounds like something oneswig and co would have experience with though | 11:25 |
| janders | might be worth bringing this up again next week | 11:25 |
| janders | sounds like not much audience this time.. shall we call it a short meeting? | 11:25 |
| b1airo | Yeah good plan. I'm going to need to run now anyway - gotta drive home | 11:26 |
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| b1airo | Have a good night! | 11:26 |
| janders | you to Blair! :) | 11:26 |
| janders | (and I got my Slack sorted :) | 11:26 |
| b1airo | #endmeeting | 11:26 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Aug 14 11:26:55 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 11:26 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_sig/2019/scientific_sig.2019-08-14-11.08.html | 11:26 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_sig/2019/scientific_sig.2019-08-14-11.08.txt | 11:26 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_sig/2019/scientific_sig.2019-08-14-11.08.log.html | 11:27 |
| b1airo | Bfn! | 11:27 |
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| liuyulong | test | 14:00 |
| slaweq | liuyulong: test passed :) | 14:00 |
| liuyulong | #startmeeting neutron_l3 | 14:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Aug 14 14:01:11 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is liuyulong. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 14:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_l3' | 14:01 |
| slaweq | hi | 14:01 |
| tidwellr | hi | 14:02 |
| liuyulong | hi | 14:02 |
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| liuyulong | OK, my backup liuyulong_ is coming now. | 14:02 |
| liuyulong | #chair liuyulong_ | 14:03 |
| openstack | Current chairs: liuyulong liuyulong_ | 14:03 |
| liuyulong | #topic Announcements | 14:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 14:03 | |
| liuyulong | I received a early bird Shanghai Summit notify email, it will expire in less than 24 hours. | 14:04 |
| liuyulong | It has a 30% discount. | 14:05 |
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| liuyulong | Next thing: seems our "U" name polling is started. | 14:07 |
| liuyulong | #link https://civs.cs.cornell.edu/cgi-bin/vote.pl?id=E_19e5119b14f86294&akey=0cde542cb3de1b12 | 14:07 |
| liuyulong | It was a very active email discussion thread, and finally we will have an official name. | 14:09 |
| liuyulong | Any other announcements? | 14:10 |
| slaweq | not from me | 14:10 |
| liuyulong | OK, next topic | 14:11 |
| liuyulong | #topic Bugs | 14:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: neutron_l3)" | 14:11 | |
| liuyulong | amotoki send us the email, it has only 3 bugs. | 14:12 |
| liuyulong | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-August/008436.html | 14:12 |
| liuyulong | No L3 related. | 14:12 |
| liuyulong | So let me raise some old ones. | 14:13 |
| liuyulong | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1817881 | 14:14 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1817881 in neutron " [RFE] L3 IPs monitor/metering via current QoS functionality (tc filters)" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to LIU Yulong (dragon889) | 14:14 |
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| liuyulong | I've subnet the POC of this: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/675654/ | 14:15 |
| liuyulong | The patch does not consider the default value yet, It only check the filter rules, and do metering. | 14:15 |
| slaweq | it's big | 14:16 |
| liuyulong | An independent patch will be submitted to do the default TC filter installation. | 14:16 |
| slaweq | :) | 14:16 |
| liuyulong | Yes, it is, consider the default TC filter installation, it will get bigger... | 14:17 |
| haleyb | hi, sorry i'm late | 14:17 |
| liuyulong | hi | 14:18 |
| liuyulong | #chair haleyb | 14:18 |
| openstack | Current chairs: haleyb liuyulong liuyulong_ | 14:18 |
| haleyb | liuyulong: so was my comment on that change correct that the metering agent can go away afterwards? | 14:18 |
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| liuyulong | haleyb, no, if user still wants to get some internal east-west traffic usage, the original metering will still be needed. | 14:19 |
| liuyulong | This is only for floating IP and router gateway IP. Internal gateway traffic will not be considered. | 14:20 |
| haleyb | can we enhance this to support that as well? just that the metering agent has not been well maintained, although someone has been trying to fix it | 14:21 |
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| liuyulong | It could, can be another agent extension. | 14:22 |
| liuyulong | At present, the traffic data of public IP seems to be more necessary. | 14:24 |
| haleyb | yes, agreed | 14:24 |
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| liuyulong | OK, next | 14:26 |
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| liuyulong | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1609217 | 14:26 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1609217 in neutron "DVR: dvr router ns should not exist in scheduled DHCP agent nodes" [High,In progress] - Assigned to LIU Yulong (dragon889) | 14:26 |
| liuyulong | The code is here: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/364793/ | 14:26 |
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| liuyulong | We have this code locally for a while, it is really good for large amount of user networks and router. | 14:27 |
| haleyb | it would be good to get mlavalle's opinion on that, to see if what i suggested was crazy | 14:29 |
| haleyb | or wrong | 14:29 |
| liuyulong | Otherwise, when the number of routers and networks increases to a certain scale, l3-agent and ovs-agent will not restart normally in the high probability. | 14:29 |
| liuyulong | haleyb, sure | 14:29 |
| liuyulong | For now, I may say 300 routers and the connected 300 networks should be the bottleneck. | 14:30 |
| liuyulong | Or the scale ceiling | 14:30 |
| liuyulong | For a frequently developing cloud, this is a real pain point. | 14:32 |
| liuyulong | But for a long stand cloud, should be worrying about is unexpected restart. | 14:33 |
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| haleyb | liuyulong: agent restart is the largest issue we see frequently as well | 14:34 |
| liuyulong | When your cloud scale exceed such point, accidental failure recovery will become more difficult. | 14:35 |
| liuyulong | last one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1826695 | 14:37 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1826695 in neutron "[L3][QoS] cache does not removed when router is down or deleted" [High,In progress] - Assigned to LIU Yulong (dragon889) | 14:37 |
| liuyulong | I may say it is ready now. | 14:38 |
| liuyulong | And the fix should be backported to queens. | 14:38 |
| liuyulong | any other bugs? | 14:40 |
| slaweq | I have one | 14:40 |
| slaweq | give me a sec | 14:40 |
| slaweq | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1818824 | 14:41 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1818824 in neutron "When a fip is added to a vm with dvr, previous connections loss the connectivity" [Low,In progress] - Assigned to Gabriele Cerami (gcerami) | 14:41 |
| slaweq | I'm not an owner of this bug but I wanted to ask You to take a look into it and write Your opinions about it in comments to it | 14:42 |
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| liuyulong | slaweq, sure, go ahead | 14:43 |
| slaweq | liuyulong: I already pasted it above :) | 14:45 |
| liuyulong_ | It is an feature, IMO, we have such conclusion once. | 14:49 |
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| slaweq | liuyulong_: what is a feature? Behaviour in dvr case or in non-dvr case? | 14:51 |
| liuyulong | test | 14:51 |
| liuyulong_ | dvr for compute L3 agent only, dvr_no_external may not have such issue as well. | 14:52 |
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| liuyulong_ | Only when the VM is in a compute node which set the agent mode to 'dvr', the SNAT traffic will be down. But IMO, the traffic can be fixed soon, if your application have nice reconnection mechanism. | 14:56 |
| liuyulong_ | slaweq, thanks for bring this up. | 14:57 |
| liuyulong_ | we are running out of time. | 14:57 |
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| liuyulong_ | #topic On demand agenda | 14:57 |
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| liuyulong_ | mlavalle, tidwellr, wwriverrat: news about routed network to upate? | 14:58 |
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| liuyulong_ | I assume it is 'no'. | 14:59 |
| liuyulong_ | OK, let's end here. | 14:59 |
| liuyulong_ | #endmeeting | 14:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Aug 14 14:59:16 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2019/neutron_l3.2019-08-14-14.01.html | 14:59 |
| slaweq | o/ | 14:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2019/neutron_l3.2019-08-14-14.01.txt | 14:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_l3/2019/neutron_l3.2019-08-14-14.01.log.html | 14:59 |
| njohnston | o/ | 14:59 |
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| * smcginnis snores | 16:01 | |
| rosmaita | WAKE UP!!! | 16:01 |
| smcginnis | Someone poke jungleboyj with a stick. :) | 16:01 |
| jungleboyj | #startmeeting Cinder | 16:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Aug 14 16:01:50 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jungleboyj. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Cinder)" | 16:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'cinder' | 16:01 |
| jungleboyj | I am here. | 16:01 |
| e0ne | hi | 16:02 |
| smcginnis | o/ :) | 16:02 |
| walshh_ | hi | 16:02 |
| rosmaita | hello | 16:02 |
| jungleboyj | @!j | 16:02 |
| _pewp_ | jungleboyj (._.) ~ ︵ ┻━┻ | 16:02 |
| jungleboyj | courtesy ping: jungleboyj whoami-rajat rajinir lseki carloss pots woojay erlon geguileo eharney rosmaita enriquetaso e0ne smcginnis davidsha walshh_ xyang hemna _hemna tosky | 16:02 |
| enriquetaso | o/ | 16:02 |
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| davidsha | o/ | 16:02 |
| carloss | hi | 16:02 |
| eharney | hi | 16:02 |
| woojay | o/ | 16:02 |
| whoami-rajat | Hi | 16:02 |
| jungleboyj | @! | 16:03 |
| _pewp_ | jungleboyj (*´･д･)ﾉ | 16:03 |
| pots | o/ | 16:03 |
| jungleboyj | Ok. Lets get started. | 16:04 |
| jungleboyj | #topic announcements: | 16:04 |
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| jungleboyj | Hopefully everyone knows by now that we have the mid-cycle next week. | 16:05 |
| jungleboyj | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-train-mid-cycle-planning | 16:05 |
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| jungleboyj | Please add topics to the etherpad so that this is a productive time for us all. | 16:05 |
| * jungleboyj glares at smcginnis for abandoning us | 16:05 | |
| jungleboyj | ;-) | 16:05 |
| smcginnis | :P | 16:05 |
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| jungleboyj | We have a good start in there. I am going to go through our PTG and last mid-cycle notes I know there are to-dos in there that haven't been addressed. | 16:06 |
| jungleboyj | I will cover more details later in the meeting. | 16:06 |
| jungleboyj | That was all I had for announcements. | 16:07 |
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| jungleboyj | #topic cinderclient CLI version negotiation needs a look | 16:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "cinderclient CLI version negotiation needs a look (Meeting topic: Cinder)" | 16:07 | |
| jungleboyj | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/664430/ | 16:07 |
| eharney | well, mostly asking for reviews here, Sean gave some feedback that i added more information around | 16:07 |
| eharney | also wanted to check in on the whole major version bump plan in general | 16:07 |
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| jungleboyj | eharney: I thought this was what we were already doing. | 16:08 |
| smcginnis | Just added this to the midcycle etherpad - https://review.opendev.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/python-cinderclient+branch:master+topic:major_bump | 16:08 |
| smcginnis | We need to coordinate that work and make sure we get everything we want in. | 16:08 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: ++ Sounds good. | 16:09 |
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| jungleboyj | I don't really like that there is now error for using a version that is newer than what you requested but if that is what Nova does we should be consistent. | 16:10 |
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| jungleboyj | I suppose you are going to get some sort of error anyway because what you are trying to do isn't supported yet. | 16:10 |
| jungleboyj | I guess I would feel better if we had documentation and a release note indicating that behavior to go with the patch. | 16:11 |
| eharney | that makes sense | 16:11 |
| eharney | so we're going to aim to land all of the major bump patches somewhere close to the client freeze deadline? | 16:12 |
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| jungleboyj | eharney: Yeah, we should put group review of the patches early in the mid-cycle so we can try to shepherd things through. | 16:13 |
| eharney | ok | 16:14 |
| whoami-rajat | do we show a msg to user regarding the set version is higher than maximum and the max api version is used instead? | 16:14 |
| jungleboyj | whoami-rajat: That would be consistent and create a better UX. | 16:14 |
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| eharney | not sure i follow | 16:15 |
| jungleboyj | At least put out a 'WARNING' type message that it is falling back. | 16:15 |
| jungleboyj | If they try, it doesn't work, they run with debug on or whatever they at least get more info. | 16:16 |
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| whoami-rajat | if a user sets OS_VOLUME_API_VERSION = 3.90 and max version supported is 3.56, the user should know 3.90 doesn't exist or isn't supported and their max version supported is 3.56 | 16:16 |
| eharney | i just modeled the behavior here after how things already work in nova and manila | 16:16 |
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| whoami-rajat | jungleboyj: ++ | 16:17 |
| eharney | printing warnings gets interesting with the "i have a script that parses CLI output" user base | 16:17 |
| jungleboyj | eharney: Right. | 16:17 |
| smcginnis | I think the concensus I've seen lately has been that CLI output is not an API. | 16:17 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: That is a good consensus. | 16:18 |
| eharney | except for the CLIs that output json/csv? | 16:18 |
| clarkb | well you can emit warnings and such to stderr | 16:18 |
| eharney | true | 16:18 |
| rosmaita | clarkb: ++ | 16:18 |
| clarkb | and output regular content that scripts might care about to stdout | 16:18 |
| smcginnis | That makes sense to me. | 16:19 |
| e0ne | clarkb: +1 | 16:19 |
| jungleboyj | clarkb: ++ | 16:19 |
| jungleboyj | eharney: Are you ok with that approach? | 16:20 |
| eharney | adding a warning message if the requested version is downgraded? yes | 16:20 |
| jungleboyj | MVs are confusing and a PITA as it is. Anything we can do to make them less confusing is good. | 16:20 |
| jungleboyj | eharney: Right, but don't change functionality. | 16:20 |
| eharney | i'll try to get some doc and examples together for next week | 16:22 |
| jungleboyj | eharney: Sounds good. | 16:22 |
| jungleboyj | Thank you! | 16:22 |
| jungleboyj | That is a good change to get in. I thought we already had that done. :-) | 16:23 |
| jungleboyj | Anything else on that topic? | 16:23 |
| eharney | nope | 16:23 |
| jungleboyj | Okie Dokie. | 16:23 |
| jungleboyj | So, details for next week. | 16:23 |
| jungleboyj | #topic Details for Next Week's Mid-cycle | 16:24 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Details for Next Week's Mid-cycle (Meeting topic: Cinder)" | 16:24 | |
| jungleboyj | I have put my Cell phone in the etherpad. | 16:24 |
| jungleboyj | I have also added my arrival/departure times. | 16:24 |
| jungleboyj | For those of you that didn't see I am timezone challenged. So, we won't be meeting until 10 am because that is all the earlier I reserved the room and I couldn't get anything else. | 16:25 |
| jungleboyj | So, we will have kind-of lazy mornings. | 16:25 |
| jungleboyj | I am bringing the usual recording equipment and the room should be much the same as last time. | 16:25 |
| jungleboyj | Rather than dealing with food service figured we would just make trips to the cafe downstairs for coffee and snacks when people want. Lenovo will cover. It is cheaper and easier that way. | 16:26 |
| * jungleboyj should find my badge. | 16:26 | |
| rosmaita | i think we should all bring headsets so we can all get into zoom or whatever if necessary | 16:27 |
| rosmaita | make it easier on the remote attendees | 16:27 |
| jungleboyj | Sure. Can do. I am hoping I might have Zoom working but I am not sure. | 16:27 |
| whoami-rajat | rosmaita: ++ | 16:27 |
| jungleboyj | rosmaita: That is a good idea. Hadn't thought of that before. | 16:27 |
| jungleboyj | Supposedly my trial Zoom account ends this week but I haven't seen any indication of that. | 16:28 |
| rosmaita | i think we could use my bluejeans account if necessary | 16:28 |
| enriquetaso | rosmaita++ | 16:28 |
| jungleboyj | rosmaita: ++ Oh, that would be so much better. | 16:28 |
| jungleboyj | Assume we can record those. | 16:29 |
| rosmaita | i think i can even record in bluejeans, but need to check | 16:29 |
| rosmaita | maybe eharney knows? | 16:29 |
| jungleboyj | Sweet. | 16:29 |
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| eharney | it records, but may have some time limit | 16:29 |
| rosmaita | ok, i will take an action item to get that info today | 16:30 |
| jungleboyj | I will still record to YouTube to be safe and to keep that record. | 16:30 |
| jungleboyj | rosmaita: Check out what is possible and we can coordinate to be ready for next week. | 16:30 |
| rosmaita | ack | 16:30 |
| jungleboyj | Using some sort of official meeting platform would be good though. | 16:31 |
| jungleboyj | Any other questions/concerns? | 16:32 |
| jungleboyj | Assume we will do the usual lunch together and grab dinner afterwards one night. | 16:32 |
| jungleboyj | or both nights. | 16:33 |
| jungleboyj | :-) | 16:33 |
| jungleboyj | I am planning that we should be able to wrap up by mid-day Friday. If not I do have one conflicting meeting that I will need to step out for at 1:30. | 16:34 |
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| jungleboyj | Then we have the big party at eharney 's house on Friday night. | 16:34 |
| jungleboyj | :-) | 16:34 |
| eharney | sweet | 16:35 |
| e0ne | :) | 16:35 |
| jungleboyj | Wondered if IRC was still working. Had to check. | 16:35 |
| jungleboyj | Ok. Any question/concerns on that topic? | 16:35 |
| rosmaita | nope | 16:35 |
| enriquetaso | nope | 16:36 |
| jungleboyj | Ok. That was all I had on the agenda. | 16:36 |
| jungleboyj | #topic Open Discussion | 16:36 |
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| jungleboyj | As usual, if you are a remote attendee watch the Etherpad and IRC for details. | 16:36 |
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| jungleboyj | Anyone have other topics for today? | 16:37 |
| zhengMa | Hi team, looking forward to reviewing https://review.opendev.org/#/c/668825/ | 16:37 |
| jungleboyj | zhengMa: Sure. Will make sure to take a look through that. | 16:38 |
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| zhengMa | And more, there's a similar patch https://review.opendev.org/#/c/674758/ , do we have to do some changes because of this? | 16:39 |
| zhengMa | jungleboyj: thank you! | 16:39 |
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| eharney | i don't think you have to change anything because of that patch | 16:40 |
| jungleboyj | eharney: ++ | 16:40 |
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| zhengMa | eharney: thank you, but will the compression configuration be confusing? | 16:41 |
| eharney | your feature only does anything if you choose to upload as a new format to glance, right? | 16:42 |
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| zhengMa | that's right | 16:43 |
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| eharney | the other one only applies compression transparently inside of the qcow2 format | 16:43 |
| eharney | and doesn't require any particular configuration etc | 16:43 |
| eharney | so i think it's ok | 16:43 |
| zhengMa | eharney: ok, got it, thank you | 16:43 |
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| jungleboyj | Anything else for today? | 16:44 |
| whoami-rajat | So i've the base frame of the bp ready, i still need to optimize the tests but would appreciate reviews on the functional code | 16:44 |
| whoami-rajat | cinder : https://review.opendev.org/#/c/639180/ | 16:44 |
| whoami-rajat | cinderlib : https://review.opendev.org/#/c/674826/ | 16:44 |
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| jungleboyj | Wheee, that is a big patch. | 16:46 |
| jungleboyj | Ok. Will find some time to look at that. | 16:46 |
| jungleboyj | whoami-rajat: Thanks for working on that. | 16:46 |
| whoami-rajat | jungleboyj: np, the existing tests needed to include the volume type that made the patch big | 16:47 |
| jungleboyj | That would be good to get reviewed and agreed upon before the end of the mid-cycle as well since there was some controversy over it in the past. | 16:47 |
| whoami-rajat | jungleboyj: i will try to minimize it more | 16:48 |
| whoami-rajat | jungleboyj: thanks! | 16:48 |
| jungleboyj | Anything else? | 16:48 |
| whoami-rajat | Nothing from my side | 16:49 |
| jungleboyj | Ok good. | 16:49 |
| jungleboyj | Just a note that we won't have this meeting next week as it will be during the mid-cycle. So we will just be having one big meeting. :-) | 16:49 |
| jungleboyj | I think that is it for today then. | 16:50 |
| jungleboyj | Thank you everyone and I look forward to seeing some of you next week. | 16:50 |
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| rosmaita | bye! | 16:50 |
| jungleboyj | #endmeeting | 16:50 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Aug 14 16:50:45 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:50 |
| zhengMa | thank you, bye! | 16:50 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2019/cinder.2019-08-14-16.01.html | 16:50 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2019/cinder.2019-08-14-16.01.txt | 16:50 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2019/cinder.2019-08-14-16.01.log.html | 16:50 |
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| SotK | there's no storyboard meeting this week, as you might've noticed, since most of the usual attendees are busy elsewhere | 19:08 |
| SotK | feel free to drop into #storyboard if needed | 19:08 |
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| timburke | #startmeeting swift | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Aug 14 21:00:21 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is timburke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: swift)" | 21:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'swift' | 21:00 |
| timburke | who's here for the swift meeting? | 21:00 |
| kota_ | o/ | 21:00 |
| mattoliverau | o/ | 21:00 |
| tdasilva | hello | 21:00 |
| rledisez | hi o/ | 21:02 |
| timburke | agenda's at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Swift | 21:02 |
| timburke | #topic swauth | 21:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "swauth (Meeting topic: swift)" | 21:02 | |
| timburke | onovy recently sent an email to the mailing list saying that he isn't able to continue maintaining swauth | 21:03 |
| timburke | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-August/008416.html | 21:03 |
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| timburke | i guess my question is, do any of us have a need to keep swauth working? do any of us want to pick up maintainership of it? | 21:04 |
| timburke | fwiw, i took a stab at addressing his first two concerns | 21:05 |
| timburke | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/676265/ | 21:05 |
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| timburke | p 676265 | 21:05 |
| patchbot | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/676265/ - x/swauth - Add py3 support - 1 patch set | 21:05 |
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| kota_ | i don't know swauth users for my company and related NTT groups for now. | 21:06 |
| mattoliverau | To be honest I haven't really looked at swauth. | 21:06 |
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| mattoliverau | but having other auth's out there isn't a bad thing. especially if it's one that enables Swift to run standalone (ie with out the rest of OpenStack). | 21:06 |
| timburke | cool. that was kinda my assumption; i think swiftstack's in a similar boat -- not really using it or thinking much about it | 21:07 |
| mattoliverau | But no Suse doesn't use it, and I never have myself. | 21:07 |
| timburke | though mattoliverau's point is certainly valid: i definitely feel like there's some benefit to having a few different auth options | 21:08 |
| timburke | anyway, on to updates! | 21:09 |
| timburke | #topic static symlinks and versioning | 21:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "static symlinks and versioning (Meeting topic: swift)" | 21:09 | |
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| timburke | looks like the static link patch is coming along nicely | 21:10 |
| timburke | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/633094/ | 21:10 |
| patchbot | patch 633094 - swift - Allow "static symlinks" - 27 patch sets | 21:10 |
| mattoliverau | Yeah, I like the new static and dynamic naming in the Doc it really clears it up | 21:10 |
| timburke | and the cleanup pre-req already landed | 21:10 |
| timburke | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/675451/ | 21:10 |
| patchbot | patch 675451 - swift - Consolidate Container-Update-Override headers (MERGED) - 2 patch sets | 21:10 |
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| timburke | i think clayg is currently working on rebasing the (swift) versioning patch on top of those | 21:11 |
| timburke | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/673682/ | 21:11 |
| patchbot | patch 673682 - swift - s3api: Implement versioning status API - 1 patch set | 21:11 |
| kota_ | cool | 21:12 |
| timburke | er, wrong one | 21:12 |
| timburke | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/633857/ | 21:12 |
| patchbot | patch 633857 - swift - symlink-backed versioned_writes - 10 patch sets | 21:12 |
| kota_ | lol | 21:12 |
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| mattoliverau | I'm mid way through another review of the hard symlink patch (since the doc change), and will hopefully finish it today. Though I know clayg has been working on it since. | 21:13 |
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| timburke | thanks mattoliverau! | 21:13 |
| timburke | hopefully we'll be able to land the static link patch this week and have a few reviews on the versioning patch | 21:13 |
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| mattoliverau | +1 | 21:14 |
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| timburke | #topic py3 | 21:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "py3 (Meeting topic: swift)" | 21:14 | |
| timburke | zaitcev's been steadily working through reviewing; we should have a couple more func test modules landed soon | 21:15 |
| timburke | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/674716/ | 21:15 |
| patchbot | patch 674716 - swift - py3: mostly port s3 func tests - 5 patch sets | 21:15 |
| timburke | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/675710/ | 21:15 |
| patchbot | patch 675710 - swift - py3: port test/functional/test_versioned_writes.py - 3 patch sets | 21:15 |
| mattoliverau | nice | 21:15 |
| timburke | the last bit of the s3api tests was kinda funny -- there was an import-ordering issue that caused boto3 to get into an infinite recursion because of eventlet monkey-patching | 21:17 |
| timburke | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/675227/ | 21:17 |
| patchbot | patch 675227 - swift - py3: Finish porting s3 func tests - 3 patch sets | 21:17 |
| timburke | but i think now we have patches proposed for all func tests | 21:17 |
| timburke | and i'm currently working on adding tests for the sharded-listings patch | 21:18 |
| timburke | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/671167/ | 21:18 |
| patchbot | patch 671167 - swift - py3: fix up listings on sharded containers - 1 patch set | 21:18 |
| timburke | that's about it for py3 -- i'm really excited that we're getting so close, though! | 21:19 |
| mattoliverau | oh wow, fun times | 21:19 |
| timburke | #topic lots of small files | 21:20 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "lots of small files (Meeting topic: swift)" | 21:20 | |
| timburke | rledisez, is alecuyer back from vacation yet? ;-) | 21:20 |
| rledisez | timburke: I hope he made it back home, cause I'm waiting for him on Monday ;) | 21:21 |
| timburke | hehe | 21:21 |
| timburke | fwiw, we here at swiftstack have been trying it out, and i get the impression there's some excitement that the standard deviation for some performance numbers has come down | 21:22 |
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| rledisez | good to know. any numbers you can share? | 21:23 |
| mattoliverau | cool, I should try and set up an env one of these days. | 21:23 |
| timburke | but there was some issue that came up where we'd get tracebacks making frags durable? | 21:23 |
| timburke | let me dig around a moment... | 21:24 |
| tdasilva | http://paste.openstack.org/show/757015/ | 21:24 |
| kota_ | curious | 21:25 |
| rledisez | i'm checking if we have this error un our cluster, but I never saw it | 21:25 |
| kota_ | is it on feature/losf HEAD? | 21:26 |
| tdasilva | yeah, looks like it is missing some files in the kv db, we are still trying to understand it better | 21:26 |
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| tdasilva | kota_: yeah | 21:26 |
| kota_ | perhaps, my mis-rebasing to the current master | 21:26 |
| kota_ | in the history to track the master. | 21:27 |
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| rledisez | timburke: nothing close to that in our production | 21:27 |
| kota_ | basically, the change around .durable should redirect to kvfile itself or index server. | 21:27 |
| kota_ | no .durable | 21:27 |
| kota_ | #d | 21:28 |
| kota_ | i might be older guy :/ | 21:28 |
| timburke | some performance stats: http://paste.openstack.org/show/757016/ | 21:28 |
| tdasilva | kota_: i'm not sure I understand your last comment | 21:29 |
| timburke | i think those were with some s3-benchmarking tool, somewhere around a concurrency of 50; i forget how beefy the cluster is, though | 21:29 |
| kota_ | tdasilva: ah, i remembered we used .durable file for fragment durability but it's old style fragment durable expression. | 21:30 |
| rledisez | reading the code, the DiskFileError is not the original exception. of you get the original one we could dig more | 21:30 |
| rledisez | but alecuyer would probably be more efficient than me for that | 21:32 |
| tdasilva | rledisez: I think the original exception might be this: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 0dbdb93b1ef1360902c56454414f0d221565777702.34279#3.data ? | 21:32 |
| tdasilva | anyhow...we can probably take this to #openstack-swift | 21:33 |
| timburke | sounds good. i think we can probably dig for a bit, at least until he gets back | 21:33 |
| timburke | #topic sharding | 21:33 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "sharding (Meeting topic: swift)" | 21:33 | |
| timburke | i saw mattoliverau proposed https://review.opendev.org/#/c/675820/ ! thank you! | 21:33 |
| patchbot | patch 675820 - swift - sharder: Keep cleaving on empty shard ranges - 1 patch set | 21:33 |
| timburke | i ought to go review it, since i wrote up the bug ;-) | 21:34 |
| mattoliverau | I haven't done much on the autosharding, but yeah I did play with the emtpy shards sharding bug :) | 21:34 |
| mattoliverau | yeah that | 21:34 |
| mattoliverau | it pretty much just doesn't count empty shards when calulating the shard batch size. | 21:35 |
| timburke | 👍 | 21:35 |
| mattoliverau | because if the shards are empty then they become a noop | 21:35 |
| timburke | nice | 21:36 |
| timburke | #topic open discussion | 21:36 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: swift)" | 21:36 | |
| timburke | anything else we should bring up? | 21:36 |
| timburke | today's the last day for early-bird pricing for the summit | 21:37 |
| timburke | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/shanghai-2019/ | 21:37 |
| mattoliverau | oh yeah.. time to go nag work some more then :( | 21:37 |
| timburke | i was about to ask whether you thought you'd be able to make it or not :-) | 21:38 |
| mattoliverau | Yeah, I hope so. Work is waiting for to get the budget for it sorted or something.. sigh always seem to be waiting to the last minute... which tends to also make things more expensive. | 21:39 |
| timburke | yeah -- i hope we'll see you there! | 21:40 |
| timburke | not the end of the world if it doesn't work out though. at least we'll have better overlap with your tz ;-) | 21:41 |
| mattoliverau | that's true. But summits closer to my TZ is nice, less jetlag! :) | 21:41 |
| timburke | all right, i'm gonna call it, let mattoliverau and kota_ get breakfast :-) | 21:42 |
| mattoliverau | \o/ | 21:42 |
| timburke | thank you all for coming, and thank you for working on swift! | 21:42 |
| * mattoliverau is hungry | 21:42 | |
| timburke | #endmeeting | 21:42 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 21:42 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Aug 14 21:42:25 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:42 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2019/swift.2019-08-14-21.00.html | 21:42 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2019/swift.2019-08-14-21.00.txt | 21:42 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2019/swift.2019-08-14-21.00.log.html | 21:42 |
| mattoliverau | thanks timburke | 21:42 |
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