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| mriedem | ... | 14:01 |
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| efried | #startmeeting nova | 14:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Aug 8 14:01:56 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is efried. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova' | 14:02 |
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| takashin | o/ | 14:02 |
| gmann | o/ | 14:02 |
| * gmann in TC meeting also in parallel | 14:02 | |
| cdent | o/ | 14:02 |
| dansmith | o/ | 14:02 |
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| gibi | o/ | 14:03 |
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| efried | #link agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 14:05 |
| efried | (updated just now) | 14:05 |
| efried | #topic Last meeting | 14:05 |
| efried | #link Minutes from last meeting: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2019/nova.2019-08-01-21.00.html | 14:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Last meeting (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:05 | |
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| efried | actions from last time will come around again in open discussion | 14:06 |
| efried | #topic Release News | 14:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Release News (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:06 | |
| efried | We're in code mode now. | 14:06 |
| efried | Feature freeze in ~5 weeks, Sep 12 | 14:06 |
| efried | #topic Bugs (stuck/critical) | 14:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (stuck/critical) (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:07 | |
| efried | No Critical bugs | 14:07 |
| efried | #link 67 new untriaged bugs (-0 since the last meeting): https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?search=Search&field.status=New | 14:07 |
| efried | #link 1 untagged untriaged bugs (-1 since the last meeting): https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.tag=-*&field.status%3Alist=NEW | 14:07 |
| efried | any bug news? | 14:07 |
| efried | #topic Gate status | 14:08 |
| efried | #link check queue gate status http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/index.html | 14:08 |
| efried | #link 3rd party CI status (seems to be back in action) http://ciwatch.mmedvede.net/project?project=nova | 14:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Gate status (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:08 | |
| efried | we seem to be hitting 700-ish in-use nodes in the CI http://grafana.openstack.org/d/rZtIH5Imz/nodepool?orgId=1 | 14:08 |
| efried | which is a big bump | 14:08 |
| efried | yet anecdotally, build times don't seem to have gone down a whole lot. | 14:09 |
| efried | any comments there? | 14:09 |
| efried | #topic Reminders | 14:09 |
| efried | Anything? | 14:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Reminders (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:09 | |
| efried | #topic Stable branch status | 14:09 |
| efried | #link stable/stein: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+(project:openstack/os-vif+OR+project:openstack/python-novaclient+OR+project:openstack/nova)+branch:stable/stein | 14:09 |
| efried | #link stable/rocky: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+(project:openstack/os-vif+OR+project:openstack/python-novaclient+OR+project:openstack/nova)+branch:stable/rocky | 14:09 |
| efried | #link stable/queens: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+(project:openstack/os-vif+OR+project:openstack/python-novaclient+OR+project:openstack/nova)+branch:stable/queens | 14:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Stable branch status (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:09 | |
| efried | I think mriedem is gearing up for a rocky release | 14:10 |
| mriedem | yes, | 14:10 |
| mriedem | cve fixes https://review.opendev.org/#/q/I5e0a43ec59341c9ac62f89105ddf82c4a014df81 | 14:10 |
| efried | #help stables review rocky patches please | 14:10 |
| efried | anything else stable mriedem? | 14:10 |
| mriedem | no | 14:10 |
| efried | #topic Sub/related team Highlights | 14:11 |
| efried | Placement (cdent) | 14:11 |
| efried | #link latest pupdate http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-August/008192.html | 14:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Sub/related team Highlights (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:11 | |
| cdent | oh hi | 14:11 |
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| efried | cdent has been diligently chipping away at performance | 14:11 |
| cdent | lots of performance updates that have proven quite useful. I'm going to write up a thing about the general classes of changes that were made so that we can try to transfer some of them over to nova | 14:11 |
| efried | ++ | 14:11 |
| cdent | if I continue to have the time and space to do so, I'm just gonna carry on with the same analysis in nova-land | 14:12 |
| efried | that it? | 14:12 |
| cdent | one thing that may be a concern: | 14:12 |
| cdent | tssurya: not sure if you are here, but I'll speak your name in vain. They are working on implementing consumer types in placement (which is of value to nova quotas) and progress is relatively slow (compared to other features in placement this cycle) | 14:12 |
| cdent | for the sake of nova we may want to see about helping out with that, depending on what tssurya has to say | 14:13 |
| cdent | (that's all) | 14:13 |
| efried | who on the nova side is counting on consumer types? melwitt? | 14:14 |
| tssurya | cdent: I wasn't aware it was a priority honestly | 14:14 |
| tssurya | on the nova side | 14:14 |
| cdent | tssurya: I don't know if it is or not, which is why I bring it up | 14:14 |
| cdent | if it's not, then no big deal | 14:14 |
| cdent | if it is, then we can perhaps make some adjustments | 14:14 |
| mriedem | i should probably read that spec, | 14:14 |
| tssurya | the slow progress is truly my fault, apologies | 14:14 |
| mriedem | since knowing the type of consumer for allocations could be useful for when we're deleting a compute service and hit conflicts, or the audit placement cli | 14:15 |
| cdent | tssurya: we've all got many things on the plate, don't worry | 14:15 |
| mriedem | but none of those are priorities as far as i know | 14:15 |
| efried | mriedem: you appear to have at least glanced at the spec on June 27th | 14:16 |
| cdent | at least of the people here, it sounds like no one is clamouring, but not everyone is here | 14:16 |
| efried | Yeah, I can't quite tell from the | 14:17 |
| efried | #link consumer types spec (review) https://review.opendev.org/#/c/654799/ | 14:17 |
| efried | who/what the major motivators were | 14:17 |
| efried | but melwitt was at least involved, so probably need to fup with her | 14:17 |
| efried | cdent: your action ^ ? | 14:17 |
| cdent | sure, I'll check in | 14:17 |
| efried | #action cdent to track down why we care about consumer types, and how motivated we should be to close it in Train | 14:18 |
| efried | thanks | 14:18 |
| efried | moving on | 14:18 |
| efried | #topic Stuck Reviews | 14:18 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Stuck Reviews (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:18 | |
| efried | any? | 14:18 |
| efried | #topic Review status page | 14:19 |
| efried | #link http://status.openstack.org/reviews/#nova | 14:19 |
| efried | Count: 459 (-2); Top score: 1373 (+21) | 14:19 |
| efried | (FWIW, one week == 21 points) | 14:19 |
| efried | #help Pick a patch near the top, shepherd it to closure | 14:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review status page (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:19 | |
| efried | #topic Open discussion | 14:19 |
| efried | Train Spec Freeze Exception Process | 14:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:19 | |
| efried | Last week we decided to dump all the decisions on dansmith | 14:19 |
| gmann | efried: you missed API :) | 14:19 |
| efried | Ugh, sorry gmann | 14:19 |
| efried | #topic Sub/related team Highlights | 14:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Sub/related team Highlights (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:19 | |
| efried | API (gmann) | 14:19 |
| efried | This week updates: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-August/008358.html | 14:19 |
| efried | gmann is working on 'Default policy refresh' and first API policies (os-services) series of changes is up for early feedback and direction. | 14:19 |
| efried | This patch and all base patches: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/648480/7 | 14:19 |
| dansmith | #undo is a thing | 14:20 |
| gmann | mainly on thing about early feedback | 14:20 |
| gmann | regarding the last one "policy default refresh" initial series, i will catch melwitt and johnthetubaguy after meeting to discuss if this direction is good for them. and also will try to prepare an etherpad to write down the each changes motive to make it easy for review | 14:20 |
| gmann | i am looking for early feedback on this and its base patches https://review.opendev.org/#/c/648480/ | 14:20 |
| efried | "review guide on ML" has been helpful for things. | 14:20 |
| gmann | and same line we can work on other policy also | 14:21 |
| * efried still has mriedem's cross-cell resize review guide in the queue.... | 14:21 | |
| gmann | efried: sure. i can add that on ML | 14:21 |
| gmann | that's all on API. | 14:21 |
| efried | thanks gmann | 14:21 |
| efried | #topic Open discussion | 14:22 |
| efried | Train Spec Freeze Exception Process | 14:22 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:22 | |
| efried | Last week we decided to dump all the decisions on dansmith | 14:22 |
| efried | ...who has commented on both of the specs: | 14:22 |
| efried | #link Use PCPU and VCPU in One Instance: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/668656/ | 14:22 |
| efried | #link Nova Part of Image Encryption: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/608696 | 14:22 |
| efried | dansmith: are we saying definitively no at this point? | 14:23 |
| dansmith | I never signed up to make the final call, | 14:23 |
| dansmith | but tbh, | 14:23 |
| mriedem | i say defer | 14:23 |
| efried | Heh | 14:23 |
| efried | no, we signed you up in absentia | 14:23 |
| mriedem | if these aren't clear at this point in train, defer | 14:23 |
| dansmith | it seems like there is little support for either being an exception | 14:23 |
| mriedem | they aren't exception worthy | 14:23 |
| efried | Okay. | 14:24 |
| mriedem | being rushed for an exception makes one feel like they need to just approve to make people happy and keep the wheels grinding | 14:24 |
| efried | I would like to be able to encourage the authors to continue working on the specs, in backlog-land, so they can land early in U. | 14:24 |
| mriedem | yeah i think that's fine, | 14:25 |
| efried | I haven't been deep in the technical details, but they seemed close to me. | 14:25 |
| mriedem | knowing that to go from backlog -> U is still not a trivial re-approval | 14:25 |
| dansmith | so, on that, | 14:25 |
| dansmith | why don't we just propose them against U, and even potentially approve them at some point? | 14:25 |
| dansmith | going into the backlog and then needing a re-review just seems pointless to me | 14:25 |
| mriedem | if the U stuff is populated that's also fine | 14:26 |
| efried | wfm. As soon as we have a name, I'll (ask someone to) populate the tree and we can do that. | 14:26 |
| mriedem | backlog was historically more for an idea or problem w/o a solution | 14:26 |
| dansmith | other than to serve as making it look like we've handed them half a bone, to make ourselves and them feel better | 14:26 |
| mriedem | takashin has done it in the past | 14:26 |
| mriedem | populating nova-specs with the next series | 14:26 |
| efried | yuh | 14:26 |
| efried | okay, moving on. | 14:26 |
| mriedem | aciton? | 14:26 |
| mriedem | *action even | 14:26 |
| efried | #action takashin to populate nova-specs with U as soon as U has a name | 14:27 |
| takashin | okay | 14:27 |
| efried | #action Luzi and huaqiang to move their respective specs to U | 14:27 |
| efried | Thanks takashin | 14:28 |
| efried | (mriedem): | 14:28 |
| efried | #link python-novaclient blueprint to add --migration-type and --source-compute filters to "nova migration-list": https://blueprints.launchpad.net/python-novaclient/+spec/more-migration-list-filters | 14:28 |
| efried | mriedem is requesting approval for specless blueprint ^ | 14:28 |
| efried | what say you, all? | 14:28 |
| mriedem | i've already got code up, just waiting to write tests, | 14:29 |
| mriedem | this isn't dependent on microversion, it's legacy v2.0 stuff, | 14:29 |
| mriedem | and it's novaclient, so not really a spec freeze exception kind of thing | 14:29 |
| dansmith | heh | 14:29 |
| dansmith | widening the gap with OSC, I see! | 14:29 |
| mriedem | also, osc doesn't have any migration resource stuff | 14:29 |
| efried | was about to say | 14:29 |
| mriedem | i would have done osc | 14:29 |
| mriedem | except ^ | 14:29 |
| efried | :( | 14:30 |
| gibi | why not both? ;) | 14:30 |
| mriedem | and when osc gains migration stuff, it would likely use this | 14:30 |
| mriedem | so there | 14:30 |
| * mriedem checks how many knives he has available | 14:30 | |
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| mriedem | i guess just the one will do | 14:30 |
| gibi | works for me | 14:30 |
| dansmith | dude, don't stab me with a knife bloodied by someone else | 14:30 |
| mriedem | if someone else from the nova team wants to help out with osc gaps i'll be happy to let you know what needs doing | 14:31 |
| dansmith | think of the health risks | 14:31 |
| mriedem | dansmith: sorry | 14:31 |
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| * cdent must go, bbs | 14:31 | |
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| efried | okay, I'll approve with notes after the meeting. | 14:32 |
| efried | anything else? | 14:32 |
| efried | Thanks all | 14:32 |
| efried | o/ | 14:32 |
| efried | #endmeeting | 14:32 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 14:32 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Aug 8 14:32:50 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:32 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2019/nova.2019-08-08-14.01.html | 14:32 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2019/nova.2019-08-08-14.01.txt | 14:32 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2019/nova.2019-08-08-14.01.log.html | 14:32 |
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| gagehugo | #startmeeting security | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Aug 8 15:00:40 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gagehugo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: security)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'security' | 15:00 |
| fungi | aloha | 15:00 |
| gagehugo | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/674877/ | 15:00 |
| gagehugo | o/ | 15:01 |
| mhen | o/ | 15:01 |
| gagehugo | let's begin | 15:03 |
| gagehugo | #topic OSSA-2019-003 | 15:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OSSA-2019-003 (Meeting topic: security)" | 15:03 | |
| gagehugo | So a new OSSA was released this week | 15:03 |
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| gagehugo | thanks to fungi for handling that | 15:04 |
| gagehugo | #link https://security.openstack.org/ossa/OSSA-2019-003.html | 15:04 |
| gagehugo | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1837877 | 15:04 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1837877 in OpenStack Compute (nova) queens "[OSSA-2019-003] Nova Server Resource Faults Leak External Exception Details (CVE-2019-14433)" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Matt Riedemann (mriedem) | 15:04 |
| gagehugo | Fixes in Nova are here | 15:04 |
| gagehugo | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/q/I5e0a43ec59341c9ac62f89105ddf82c4a014df81 | 15:04 |
| fungi | all supported stable branches except stable/queens have merged at this point | 15:06 |
| fungi | also the advisory was hung up in the openstack-announce ml's moderation queue until just now, but it also was sent on tuesday to the openstack-discuss ml as well as oss-security (non-openstack open source security mailing list) | 15:07 |
| fungi | after discussing with ttx he's suggested i become a co-moderator of openstack-announce so we don't have to ping him on these in the future | 15:08 |
| fungi | also the real thanks on ossa-2019-003 go to donnyd for reporting it and mriedem for writing and testing all the patches for 6 different branches of nova | 15:08 |
| gagehugo | thanks to all of them too then! | 15:09 |
| gagehugo | #topic Nova/Cinder policy | 15:10 |
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| gagehugo | mhen: sorry, it's been crazy here this last week | 15:10 |
| gagehugo | I still have that on my to-do list | 15:10 |
| mhen | No worries, I totally understand :) | 15:10 |
| gagehugo | just giving a heads up :) | 15:10 |
| gagehugo | and putting it on the agenda also helps me remember | 15:10 |
| gagehugo | #topic Open Discussion | 15:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: security)" | 15:11 | |
| gagehugo | anyone have anything else? | 15:11 |
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| fungi | update on the image encryption effort | 15:16 |
| fungi | it looks like the nova spec is unlikely to get a spec freeze exception for train, based on discussion in #openstack-nova on monday | 15:16 |
| gagehugo | hmm ok | 15:17 |
| fungi | the main reasoning is that if they did approve the exception, they don't think they'd have time to actually review the necessary changes for the implementation before release | 15:17 |
| fungi | especially as the image handling routines in nova are rather dangerous places to be poking around due to their age (they don't get touched often) so extra care would be required there | 15:18 |
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| fungi | there were also still some outstanding questions on the spec requiring clarification, and a concern about assumptions being made around the wrong abstraction layers | 15:19 |
| gagehugo | makes sense | 15:19 |
| fungi | so ideally the spec gets polished up in the coming weeks and targets an early approval in the "u" cycle | 15:19 |
| gagehugo | probably best not to rush this | 15:19 |
| gagehugo | thanks fungi mhen | 15:23 |
| gagehugo | have a good rest of the week | 15:23 |
| gagehugo | #endmeeting | 15:23 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Aug 8 15:23:57 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:24 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2019/security.2019-08-08-15.00.html | 15:24 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2019/security.2019-08-08-15.00.txt | 15:24 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2019/security.2019-08-08-15.00.log.html | 15:24 |
| fungi | thanks gagehugo, you too! | 15:24 |
| mhen | you too, thanks! | 15:24 |
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