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| gagehugo | #startmeeting security | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu May 23 15:00:27 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gagehugo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: security)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'security' | 15:00 |
| gagehugo | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/security-agenda agenda | 15:00 |
| gagehugo | o/ | 15:00 |
| fungi | hey howdy | 15:01 |
| nickthetait | hi hi | 15:02 |
| fungi | great agenda this week ;) | 15:03 |
| gagehugo | heh | 15:04 |
| gagehugo | fungi: was there anything this week? | 15:04 |
| fungi | checking my notes | 15:04 |
| fungi | #link https://launchpad.net/bugs/1824248 Security Group filtering hides rules from user | 15:05 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1824248 in neutron "Security Group filtering hides rules from user" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq) | 15:05 |
| fungi | we ended up making that one public and triaging it as a security hardening opportunity | 15:05 |
| gagehugo | ok, cool | 15:05 |
| fungi | #link https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2005678 SQL Injection vulnerability in node_cache | 15:06 |
| fungi | that was for ironic-inspector which is not overseen by the vmt, but we did consult on it | 15:06 |
| fungi | got a cve assignment but considered probably not exploitable | 15:06 |
| gagehugo | since Liberty, oh boy | 15:07 |
| * redrobot sneaks in | 15:07 | |
| fungi | i think those are all the newly public reports | 15:07 |
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| * gagehugo adds them to his list | 15:08 | |
| gagehugo | thanks fungi | 15:08 |
| fungi | please everyone feel free to weigh in on any public reports of suspected vulnerabilities and argue for a different outcome if you feel it's warranted | 15:08 |
| gagehugo | fungi: related to ^ I was considering the idea of sending out a weekly security sig update on our meeting notes | 15:09 |
| fungi | just because the vmt initially decides a report isn't severe enough to need an advisory doesn't mean we can't be convinced by new evidence | 15:09 |
| fungi | gagehugo: great idea! | 15:09 |
| gagehugo | and we could put public security vulnerabilities in there | 15:09 |
| gagehugo | to help get more eyes on it, since that's something we need | 15:10 |
| fungi | yeah, link to any we recently switched to public, and also maybe include a quick list of all which are public and unresolved | 15:10 |
| fungi | (we frequently resolve reports when making them public if we deem them not in need of an advisory at that time, so would be separate lists i expect) | 15:11 |
| gagehugo | yeah, I will write up a template in an etherpad, and we could track those | 15:11 |
| gagehugo | ok | 15:12 |
| gagehugo | #action gagehugo to draft a weekly meeting template | 15:12 |
| fungi | could probably assemble most of those bits from the openstack-security ml archive and lp/sb queries | 15:13 |
| fungi | though maybe also worth discussing is revisiting retirement of the openstack-security ml | 15:13 |
| gagehugo | hmm | 15:14 |
| fungi | i was working with hyakuhei on that at least a couple years ago, but with the shakeup in leadership and then the transition away from being a project much of that effort was dropped on the floor | 15:14 |
| gagehugo | I thought that got retired when we migrated to discuss | 15:14 |
| fungi | it's been receiving automated reports for security bugtags and gerrit changes marked security-impact | 15:15 |
| gagehugo | hmm | 15:15 |
| fungi | but the list description still implies it's for discussion, and he's still the list owner | 15:15 |
| fungi | at a minimum, we should decide how we want it to be used (if at all) and adjust the configuration for it accordingly | 15:15 |
| fungi | #link http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-security | 15:16 |
| fungi | it's still linked from the main list index too | 15:16 |
| gagehugo | ok | 15:16 |
| fungi | " central point for security discussion within OpenStack. Used primarily for project co-ordination within the OpenStack Security Group." | 15:16 |
| fungi | "Openstack-security list run by robert.clark at hp.com, hyakuhei at gmail.com" | 15:17 |
| fungi | but yeah, if we think it's a useful resource for people to be able to continue to subscribe to automated stuff, then we should just relabel it accordingly | 15:17 |
| gagehugo | ok | 15:18 |
| fungi | otherwise we should announce we're shutting it down, and then go ahead with that | 15:18 |
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| nickthetait | just ask on that list if anyone finds it useful? | 15:18 |
| fungi | maybe worth a [security] tagged thread on openstack-discuss to see what people think | 15:18 |
| gagehugo | yeah | 15:18 |
| fungi | i'm not even sure if that list currently allows subscribers to post to it | 15:18 |
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| nickthetait | hehe | 15:18 |
| fungi | so asking on the list for feedback to that list may be counterproductive | 15:19 |
| gagehugo | well I will try to find out | 15:19 |
| gagehugo | see if it throws it back | 15:19 |
| fungi | but perhaps announcing on that list that we're discussing the future of it over on openstack-discuss (with a link to the start of the thread) could be a good idea | 15:19 |
| gagehugo | fungi: sounds good | 15:19 |
| fungi | i can easily reassign that list to one or more of us as owners | 15:19 |
| fungi | using my infra superpowers | 15:20 |
| gagehugo | heh | 15:20 |
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| gagehugo | nickthetait: btw I got security sig mascot stickers the last day of the PTG, lemme know if you want some | 15:21 |
| nickthetait | sweet | 15:21 |
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| nickthetait | not sure its worth mailing them | 15:21 |
| gagehugo | https://www.openstack.org/project-mascots/ | 15:22 |
| nickthetait | aww its cute! | 15:22 |
| gagehugo | I will just put some in a letter | 15:22 |
| gagehugo | Anyone have anything else? | 15:23 |
| nickthetait | nope | 15:24 |
| fungi | technically those were "security project team mascot stickers" left over from before it stopped being a project team | 15:24 |
| gagehugo | yeah | 15:25 |
| fungi | the osf didn't actually supply mascot work for sigs | 15:25 |
| gagehugo | correct | 15:25 |
| gagehugo | thanks for coming everyone, have a good holiday weekend | 15:27 |
| gagehugo | #endmeeting | 15:27 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 15:27 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu May 23 15:27:38 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:27 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2019/security.2019-05-23-15.00.html | 15:27 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2019/security.2019-05-23-15.00.txt | 15:27 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2019/security.2019-05-23-15.00.log.html | 15:27 |
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| fungi | thanks gagehugo! | 15:29 |
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| nickthetait | bye o/ | 15:30 |
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| efried | #startmeeting nova | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu May 23 21:00:18 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is efried. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova' | 21:00 |
| mriedem | . | 21:00 |
| efried | #link agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 21:00 |
| edleafe | \o | 21:00 |
| tssurya | o/ | 21:01 |
| efried | small party. | 21:02 |
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| efried | at least the cool kids are here. | 21:02 |
| efried | and me | 21:02 |
| edleafe | more beer for us! | 21:02 |
| efried | okay, let's go | 21:03 |
| efried | #topic Last meeting | 21:03 |
| efried | #link Minutes from last meeting: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2019/nova.2019-05-16-14.00.html | 21:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Last meeting (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:03 | |
| efried | #link merged cycle themes this morning http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/priorities/train-priorities.html | 21:03 |
| efried | as promised last meeting | 21:03 |
| efried | fup bug 1827083 | 21:03 |
| openstack | bug 1827083 in OpenStack-Gate "ERROR: Could not install packages due to an EnvironmentError: HTTPSConnectionPool(host='git.openstack.org', port=443): Max retries exceeded with url: /cgit/openstack/requirements/plain/upper-constraints.txt (Caused by NewConnectionError('<pip._vendor.urllib3.connection.VerifiedHTTPSConnection object at 0x7febbf6ae630>: Failed to establish a new connection: [Errno -3] Temporary failure in name resolution',)) in vexxhost-sjc1" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1827083 | 21:03 |
| efried | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/659181/ is merged - does that mean the bug can be closed? | 21:03 |
| patchbot | patch 659181 - opendev/base-jobs - Only use ipv6 dns if nodepool uses ipv6 (MERGED) - 1 patch set | 21:03 |
| efried | mriedem: ^ | 21:03 |
| mriedem | it's worked around, | 21:03 |
| mriedem | i don't think we need to continue talking about it in our nova meeting | 21:04 |
| efried | okay. | 21:04 |
| efried | Review requested for a couple of patches (artom): | 21:04 |
| efried | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/643023/ | 21:04 |
| efried | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/643024/ | 21:04 |
| efried | Need second +2/+W | 21:04 |
| patchbot | patch 643023 - nova - Move get_pci_mapping_for_migration to MigrationCon... - 5 patch sets | 21:04 |
| patchbot | patch 643024 - nova - Allow driver to properly unplug VIFs on destinatio... - 6 patch sets | 21:04 |
| efried | These were requested a couple weeks ago. Progress has been made. | 21:04 |
| efried | any other old business? | 21:05 |
| efried | #topic Release News | 21:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Release News (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:05 | |
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| efried | I think the next major thing we're tracking is spec freeze at t-2, July 25th. | 21:06 |
| efried | Seems like a long way off right now... | 21:06 |
| takashin | o/ | 21:06 |
| efried | anything else release-y? | 21:06 |
| sean-k-mooney | efried: we are doing spec freeze at m1 then | 21:06 |
| efried | um, isn't that m2? | 21:07 |
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| mriedem | yes it's 2 | 21:07 |
| mriedem | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/Train_Release_Schedule | 21:07 |
| sean-k-mooney | ah ok sorry yes m1 is june 6th | 21:07 |
| efried | I wouldn't be opposed to doing a "spec proposal freeze" at m1 like keystone | 21:07 |
| efried | but not married to the idea. | 21:08 |
| efried | #topic Bugs (stuck/critical) | 21:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (stuck/critical) (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:08 | |
| efried | No Critical bugs | 21:08 |
| efried | #link 85 new untriaged bugs (up 7! since the last meeting): https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?search=Search&field.status=New | 21:08 |
| efried | #link 11 untagged untriaged bugs (up 1 since the last meeting): https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.tag=-*&field.status%3Alist=NEW | 21:08 |
| efried | Gate status | 21:08 |
| efried | #link check queue gate status http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/index.html | 21:08 |
| efried | I said last week that the gate was pretty healthy, thereby cursing it. | 21:09 |
| efried | Not seeing a high percentage of spurious failures, but ye gods is it slow. | 21:09 |
| mriedem | there was a problem yesterday | 21:09 |
| sean-k-mooney | there was a reset yesterday | 21:09 |
| sean-k-mooney | hopefully that will help | 21:09 |
| efried | okay. I didn't notice it being any faster today. But maybe it's catching up on the backlog | 21:10 |
| efried | #link 3rd party CI status http://ciwatch.mmedvede.net/project?project=nova&time=7+days | 21:10 |
| melwitt | it's hours in queue before going to a node these days | 21:11 |
| efried | yeah | 21:11 |
| efried | could it be ipv6 dns workaround? :) | 21:11 |
| efried | nova-multi-cell looks fairly ill for the past two or three days. It's non-voting, so maybe we don't care. | 21:12 |
| efried | anything else for bugs or CI? | 21:13 |
| efried | #topic Reminders | 21:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Reminders (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:13 | |
| efried | I got nothin. Anyone? | 21:13 |
| efried | #topic Stable branch status | 21:13 |
| efried | #link Stein regressions: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-April/005637.html | 21:13 |
| efried | bug 1824435 still pending | 21:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Stable branch status (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:13 | |
| openstack | bug 1824435 in OpenStack Compute (nova) stein "fill_virtual_interface_list migration fails on second attempt" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1824435 | 21:13 |
| efried | this is marked as high, not sure it really is. | 21:14 |
| efried | #link stable/stein: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+(project:openstack/os-vif+OR+project:openstack/python-novaclient+OR+project:openstack/nova)+branch:stable/stein | 21:14 |
| efried | #link stable/rocky: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+(project:openstack/os-vif+OR+project:openstack/python-novaclient+OR+project:openstack/nova)+branch:stable/rocky | 21:14 |
| efried | #link stable/queens: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+(project:openstack/os-vif+OR+project:openstack/python-novaclient+OR+project:openstack/nova)+branch:stable/queens | 21:14 |
| mriedem | dropped that bug to medium | 21:14 |
| mriedem | imacdonnell comments on https://review.opendev.org/#/c/653065/ | 21:14 |
| efried | I've dropped pike off of the list ^ since it's -em now. There was one -W patch in there | 21:14 |
| patchbot | patch 653065 - nova - Do not create default security group during instan... - 2 patch sets | 21:14 |
| mriedem | but i haven't had time to dig into it | 21:14 |
| efried | thanks mriedem | 21:14 |
| mriedem | regarding stein, | 21:14 |
| mriedem | i'm going to propose a release once the approved changes here https://review.opendev.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/stein+label:Code-Review=2 are merged | 21:15 |
| efried | ight. | 21:15 |
| efried | #topic Sub/related team Highlights | 21:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Sub/related team Highlights (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:16 | |
| efried | Placement (cdent) | 21:16 |
| efried | #link latest pupdate http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-May/006388.html | 21:16 |
| efried | From last time: | 21:16 |
| efried | #link WIP spec for nested magic https://review.opendev.org/#/c/658510/ | 21:16 |
| patchbot | patch 658510 - placement - WIP: Spec for nested magic - 2 patch sets | 21:16 |
| efried | I'm working on a new rev for ^ right now, should have it up in the next hour or so. | 21:16 |
| efried | the theme will be simplification | 21:16 |
| efried | #link spec for rg/rp mapping https://review.opendev.org/#/c/657582/ | 21:16 |
| patchbot | patch 657582 - placement - Resource provider - request group mapping in alloc... - 1 patch set | 21:16 |
| efried | Needs an owner | 21:17 |
| efried | edleafe or anyone have further nova-related placement info to impart? | 21:17 |
| efried | API (gmann) | 21:17 |
| edleafe | Not I | 21:17 |
| efried | nothing in the agenda, no gmann in channel, anyone have anything here? | 21:18 |
| efried | (Discussions about API changes coming up later) | 21:18 |
| mriedem | i, | 21:18 |
| mriedem | will probably be proposing a simple spec to filter hypervisors by compute service host, | 21:18 |
| mriedem | watcher has to jump through a few hoops to get from compute service host to hypervisor which could be optimized with a filter parameter in the api | 21:18 |
| efried | ack | 21:19 |
| efried | #topic Stuck Reviews | 21:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Stuck Reviews (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:19 | |
| efried | #link host/node validation in the API on server create http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-May/006518.html | 21:19 |
| efried | last I saw on the ML, consensus was "do it early" | 21:20 |
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| efried | right? | 21:20 |
| mriedem | yeah i'm not sure there is much to talk about here, seems everyone wants option 3 | 21:20 |
| mriedem | validate host via hostmapping, | 21:20 |
| mriedem | validate node via placement | 21:20 |
| sean-k-mooney | i like ^ | 21:20 |
| mriedem | optimize later with request spec destination node_uuid magic | 21:20 |
| efried | ++ | 21:20 |
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| efried | #topic Review status page | 21:21 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review status page (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:21 | |
| efried | #link nova review status http://status.openstack.org/reviews/#nova | 21:21 |
| efried | no progress on this from me since last week, sorry. | 21:21 |
| efried | I think we asked fungi to respin the data, and he did, though it doesn't look like it has changed substantially. | 21:21 |
| efried | We still don't know how the list is generated or how the fields are calculated. | 21:22 |
| efried | I'll get around to it eventually. Meantime, if anyone else wants to hack, the code is at openstack/reviewday. | 21:22 |
| efried | #topic Open discussion | 21:22 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:22 | |
| efried | #link WIP TC Vision Reflection https://review.opendev.org/658932 | 21:22 |
| patchbot | patch 658932 - nova - WIP: TC Vision Reflection - 3 patch sets | 21:22 |
| fungi | yeah, something had broken the installed dependencies for reviewday on the status host | 21:22 |
| efried | No movement on this since last week. | 21:22 |
| sean-k-mooney | efried: the hover text shows how teh score was dervied | 21:22 |
| fungi | that's fixed so it should be refreshing roughly every 10 minutes again | 21:22 |
| efried | sean-k-mooney: oh dang, nice spot. | 21:23 |
| efried | thanks fungi | 21:23 |
| dasp | asking for possibly more reviews on https://review.opendev.org/#/c/658903/ (Directly download and upload images to RBD), given the spec freeze soon | 21:24 |
| patchbot | patch 658903 - nova-specs - Directly download and upload images to RBD - 1 patch set | 21:24 |
| melwitt | oh yeah, that's on my list. thanks for reminding | 21:24 |
| efried | ack, added self | 21:24 |
| efried | (stephenfin) Approval for specless blueprint to remove nova-consoleauth https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/remove-consoleauth | 21:25 |
| dasp | existing review pointed out that a lot of "helper" functions already exists in code for boot-from-volume stuff, making implementation even easier than before (potentially). Thanks! | 21:25 |
| efried | stephenfin said he wouldn't be around to defend himself, but we should tag him with any actions | 21:25 |
| efried | so like all of them | 21:25 |
| sean-k-mooney | sounds fair | 21:25 |
| efried | There was a brief discussion about this today in -nova, /me finds... | 21:25 |
| efried | http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-nova/%23openstack-nova.2019-05-23.log.html#t2019-05-23T16:34:49 | 21:26 |
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| efried | was any conclusion reached? Can we approve the blueprint? | 21:26 |
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| mriedem | it would be nice to have *any* anecdotal evidence that people have upgraded through to the point of not using the nova-consoleauth service at all, | 21:27 |
| mriedem | because there was a ton of confusion over that after rocky was released | 21:27 |
| mriedem | i know mnaser is past that point but don't know if he's killed all nova-consoleauth services | 21:27 |
| sean-k-mooney | i guess we shoudl check with some of the deployment tools and see if they have made the switch by defualt and have an automated upgrade path | 21:28 |
| mriedem | also no idea how far along/behind the deployment projects are in this regard | 21:28 |
| melwitt | yeah, that is my hesitation as well. in theory it should be OK to remove it now but it's been bumpy and could use some reassurance | 21:28 |
| mriedem | so before moving forward, i'd want to know how OSA, kolla and tripleo are regarding this first | 21:28 |
| efried | okay, hypothetically what if someone is still using it? How careful do we really need to be? It's been deprecated for two releases and we've made efforts to reach out. | 21:28 |
| efried | mmph, okay. | 21:29 |
| mriedem | removing cells v1 is easy b/c we mostly knew who was using it and most tooling didn't support it, | 21:29 |
| mriedem | nova-network is in a similar boat in that people have moved to neutron long ago, | 21:29 |
| efried | I guess | 21:29 |
| efried | #action stephenfin to find out how OSA, kolla, and TripleO are positioned wrt nova-consoleauth | 21:29 |
| efried | which is easy for me to say. | 21:29 |
| mriedem | but nova-consoleauth was required everywhere up until rocky | 21:29 |
| sean-k-mooney | perhaps the ar to tag stepehen with is email the list and as the deployment prject to confrim what there current support is for deploying without it | 21:29 |
| efried | just so | 21:30 |
| efried | okay, I guess we move on. | 21:30 |
| efried | (melwitt): Seeking approval for specless blueprint to add --before option to nova-manage db archive_deleted_rows https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/nova-archive-before | 21:31 |
| efried | #link code for nova-archive-before https://review.opendev.org/#/c/556751/ | 21:31 |
| patchbot | patch 556751 - nova - Add --before to nova-manage db archive_deleted_rows - 14 patch sets | 21:31 |
| melwitt | this started out as a wishlist bug and the author went ahead and created a specless bp for it | 21:31 |
| melwitt | being able to archive deleted rows based on time is something I think a lot of people want, I know the folks in RDO cloud really need it | 21:32 |
| efried | code looks pretty ready. mriedem and dansmith have had review eyes on it. | 21:32 |
| mriedem | huh, ok | 21:32 |
| dansmith | yeah | 21:32 |
| mriedem | the bp is just paperwork at this point | 21:32 |
| mriedem | i think everyone was in line with it already anyway | 21:32 |
| dansmith | bp seems unnecessary to me, but.. whatever | 21:32 |
| efried | okay, then let's approve it and move on... | 21:32 |
| melwitt | yeah. just wanted to bring it up here instead of ninja approving it | 21:32 |
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| efried | wfm | 21:32 |
| efried | done | 21:33 |
| melwitt | thanks | 21:33 |
| efried | Any other opens? | 21:33 |
| efried | cool, thanks all | 21:34 |
| efried | o/ | 21:34 |
| efried | #endmeeting | 21:34 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu May 23 21:34:21 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:34 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2019/nova.2019-05-23-21.00.html | 21:34 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2019/nova.2019-05-23-21.00.txt | 21:34 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2019/nova.2019-05-23-21.00.log.html | 21:34 |
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