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| mriedem | efried: melwitt: gibi: is someone running this meeting? | 13:00 |
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| mriedem | or have i been DST'ed? | 13:01 |
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| mriedem | gah i have | 13:01 |
| mriedem | sorry | 13:02 |
| gibi | :) | 13:02 |
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| gibi | #startmeeting nova | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Mar 21 14:00:02 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gibi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:00 | |
| gibi | o/ | 14:00 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova' | 14:00 |
| takashin | o/ | 14:00 |
| mriedem | o/ | 14:00 |
| efried | gibi: you want to run it? | 14:00 |
| Kevin_Zheng | o/ | 14:00 |
| gibi | efried: I have to jump to a call at half past so you can take this | 14:00 |
| gibi | #chair efried | 14:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: efried gibi | 14:00 |
| efried | I done prepared and everything | 14:00 |
| efried | Greetings all. | 14:01 |
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| gibi | efried: thanks | 14:01 |
| efried | #link agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 14:01 |
| efried | updated like two minutes ago, refresh if needed | 14:01 |
| efried | #topic Release News | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Release News (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:01 | |
| efried | #link Stein release schedule: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/Stein_Release_Schedule | 14:01 |
| efried | #info Stein RC1 is TODAY, March 21 | 14:01 |
| efried | #link Stein RC potential changes tracking: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-stein-rc-potential | 14:01 |
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| efried | couple of things I wanted to bring up from the etherpad | 14:02 |
| efried | Docs for bug 1821015 | 14:02 |
| openstack | bug 1821015 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Attaching virtual GPU devices to guests in nova - libvirt reshaping" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1821015 - Assigned to Sylvain Bauza (sylvain-bauza) | 14:02 |
| * edleafe wanders in late | 14:02 | |
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| efried | bauzas didn't sign in, was going to ask him about that ^ because it requires (in order to be "authentic") GPU hardware. | 14:02 |
| mriedem | he said he's working on it | 14:02 |
| efried | okay, cool, thanks. | 14:03 |
| efried | #link Cycle highlights https://review.openstack.org/#/c/644697/ | 14:03 |
| bauzas | oops | 14:03 |
| bauzas | I'm there | 14:03 |
| efried | Please go have a look at that. I guess somebody on the releases team will decide when to merge it. | 14:03 |
| efried | #link reno prelude https://review.openstack.org/#/c/644412/ | 14:04 |
| efried | This has several +2s. I think we want to +W it today. There's a complex web of deps, but I think the only one that's not yet merged is | 14:05 |
| efried | #link network doc side of bw QoS https://review.openstack.org/#/c/640390 | 14:05 |
| mriedem | need to get https://review.openstack.org/#/c/640390 merged | 14:05 |
| mriedem | yeah i asked haleyb to just merge that last night | 14:05 |
| mriedem | can also ping mlavalle today | 14:05 |
| haleyb | mriedem: sorry, didn't see your ping about that last night, but seeme bence was going to update it? | 14:06 |
| mriedem | haleyb: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/645104/ | 14:06 |
| gibi | haleyb: bence put up a followup patch | 14:06 |
| mriedem | he already followed up | 14:06 |
| haleyb | mriedem: sorry, missed the reference, let me merge | 14:06 |
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| mriedem | thanks | 14:07 |
| mriedem | efried: i've approved the nova prelude change | 14:07 |
| efried | Miguel just did it. | 14:07 |
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| efried | Cool. | 14:07 |
| efried | Any other stein-y stuff to bring up? | 14:07 |
| efried | moving on | 14:08 |
| mdbooth | efried: Yep | 14:08 |
| efried | mdbooth: your mic | 14:08 |
| efried | or were you agreeing to move on? | 14:08 |
| mdbooth | I just posted to the ML about my monkey patching thing | 14:09 |
| mdbooth | I realise how late in the day it is for Stein, but I think it could be worthy of inclusion | 14:09 |
| efried | does this seem like kind of a dangerous thing to be trying to land right now? | 14:09 |
| mdbooth | Right, but it's a regression which makes it impossible to deploy Nova Stein on RHEL 8 | 14:09 |
| sean-k-mooney | mdbooth: secifcally with tripleo | 14:10 |
| mdbooth | Now downstream that's not a huge issue. As long as we land it upstream Real Soon we'll backport it | 14:10 |
| mdbooth | sean-k-mooney: It has nothing to do with tripleo | 14:10 |
| mdbooth | But it is a regression from Rocky. | 14:10 |
| efried | #link monkey patch early https://review.openstack.org/#/c/626952/ | 14:11 |
| efried | I only vaguely understand what's going on there (monkey patch early and only once and skip certain monkey patches in certain environments and don't do it for sphinx). | 14:11 |
| efried | anyone want to weigh in on relative risks/merits of landing right now? | 14:12 |
| mdbooth | It's horrible, but without it nova compute doesn't even start on RHEL 8. | 14:12 |
| mdbooth | And remember it's only horrible because it's changing something horrible. | 14:12 |
| efried | that seems like it would warrant inclusion. dansmith, mriedem, opinions here? | 14:12 |
| mriedem | it's a problem for rhel 8 b/c of py3.6 yeah? | 14:12 |
| mriedem | and what is the regression from rocky? | 14:13 |
| sean-k-mooney | mriedem: yes | 14:13 |
| mdbooth | mriedem: py36 and some combination of libraries | 14:13 |
| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/592285/ i guess | 14:13 |
| mdbooth | I outlined the regression in the ML post | 14:13 |
| mriedem | i've avoided that giant thread | 14:13 |
| mdbooth | The regression is actually the cross-cells thing | 14:13 |
| sean-k-mooney | mriedem: the parallel multi cell list change we did intoduced a eventlet depency in the api | 14:14 |
| mdbooth | The wsgi fix to the cross cells thing broke n-cpu without fully fixing wsgi (if you've got the unlucky libraries) | 14:14 |
| sean-k-mooney | previously we did not need to monkeypatch when the api ran under wsgi | 14:14 |
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| mdbooth | So melwitt asked me about this a couple of weeks ago and I didn't think it was a regression at the time. | 14:15 |
| mriedem | i wonder why this isn't a problem in our gate which is running bionic nodes with py36 | 14:15 |
| mdbooth | mriedem: Me, too. However, as I pointed out in the fix itself you're basically just lucky. | 14:16 |
| mdbooth | That combination of libraries happens to stumble past all the bugs. | 14:17 |
| mriedem | efried: so i'd mark it as stein-rc-potential as a candidate for an RC2 | 14:17 |
| mriedem | dansmith is in a meeting, | 14:17 |
| mriedem | and i need to jump in one soon too | 14:17 |
| mdbooth | That would be cool. As I say from a downstream POV if this didn't land in Stein it wouldn't be the end of the world as long as it landed real soon after. | 14:18 |
| mdbooth | We don't like backporting things which haven't at least landed on master. | 14:18 |
| mriedem | and i've been conveniently avoiding this because i don't trust myself with eventlet | 14:18 |
| efried | mdbooth: Would you please do the bug tagging and add to the etherpad? | 14:18 |
| mdbooth | efried: Ack. Thanks. | 14:18 |
| efried | thanks | 14:18 |
| efried | okay, last call for stein topics | 14:18 |
| efried | #topic Bugs | 14:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:19 | |
| efried | #link Critical bugs (0): https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?search=Search&field.importance=Critical&field.status=New&field.status=Incomplete&field.status=Confirmed&field.status=Triaged&field.status=In+Progress | 14:19 |
| efried | #link 64 new untriaged bugs (down 10 since the last meeting): https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?search=Search&field.status=New | 14:19 |
| efried | #link 6 untagged untriaged bugs (down 7 since the last meeting): https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.tag=-*&field.status%3Alist=NEW | 14:19 |
| efried | That's goodness :) | 14:19 |
| efried | Anyone want to bring up specific bugs? | 14:20 |
| efried | #topic Gate status | 14:20 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Gate status (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:20 | |
| efried | #link check queue gate status http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/index.html | 14:20 |
| efried | we had a snafu last night: | 14:20 |
| efried | #link placement reusing conf https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1821092 | 14:20 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1821092 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "test_local_delete_removes_allocations_after_compute_restart failing since https://review.openstack.org/#/c/644591/" [Critical,Fix released] - Assigned to Chris Dent (cdent) | 14:20 |
| efried | #link short-term fix (merged) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/645014/ | 14:20 |
| efried | #link long-term fix (merged) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/645031/ | 14:20 |
| efried | #link stein backport of ^ (open) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/645105/ | 14:20 |
| efried | thanks to cdent for identifying and resolving the problem quickly when he should have been sleeping. | 14:21 |
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| efried | otherwise, gate seems... okay? | 14:22 |
| efried | #topic 3rd party CI | 14:22 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "3rd party CI (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:22 | |
| efried | #link 3rd party CI status http://ciwatch.mmedvede.net/project?project=nova&time=7+days | 14:22 |
| efried | zVM is choppy, but succeeding sometimes. Not sure who's the point of contact these days, haven't seen jichenjc in a while. Anyone know? | 14:23 |
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| mriedem | nope | 14:24 |
| mriedem | i forgot that driver was merged | 14:24 |
| efried | I'll try to dig something up. | 14:25 |
| efried | #action efried to find zVM contact for CI | 14:25 |
| efried | PowerVM CI is dead. That team is in "transition" currently (edmondsw is on a different project, outside of OpenStack), so I say give them a couple months to get their feet under them before we start breaking kneecaps. | 14:25 |
| efried | ...unless edmondsw happens to have an update? | 14:25 |
| sean-k-mooney | efried: looking at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ThirdPartySystems/IBM_z/VM_CI we should contact zvmosci@us.ibm.com but there is no irc nic listed. not sure it up todate however | 14:26 |
| efried | sean-k-mooney: Thanks | 14:26 |
| efried | I'll cc jichen; if he isn't it, he ought to know who is. | 14:26 |
| efried | #action efried to follow up with edmondsw re PowerVM CI | 14:26 |
| efried | any other CI business? | 14:27 |
| efried | #topic Reminders | 14:27 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Reminders (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:27 | |
| efried | uhhh, I feel like a lot is happening. Does anyone need to be reminded of any of it? | 14:27 |
| efried | or have things to remind the rest of us about? | 14:27 |
| edmondsw | we are working on the CI | 14:28 |
| efried | edmondsw: ack, thank you. | 14:28 |
| efried | #topic Stable branch status | 14:28 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Stable branch status (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:28 | |
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| efried | #link stable/rocky: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/rocky,n,z | 14:29 |
| mriedem | trying to burn down since pike is going into extended maintenance | 14:29 |
| mriedem | need more reviews on stable/queens | 14:29 |
| mriedem | we should have a rocky release soonish | 14:29 |
| mriedem | just waiting for 2 changes to land | 14:29 |
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| mriedem | there is also a functional test that keeps failing on stable | 14:29 |
| mriedem | http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/index.html#1820337 | 14:29 |
| mriedem | if someone wants to investigate that | 14:29 |
| mriedem | interestingly that is only on stable | 14:30 |
| * mriedem jumps on other call | 14:30 | |
| * gibi jumps as well | 14:30 | |
| mriedem | sshhh it's secret | 14:31 |
| efried | thanks for the summary mriedem. | 14:31 |
| efried | Any other stable issues? | 14:31 |
| mriedem | nope | 14:32 |
| efried | #topic Subteam Highlights | 14:33 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to "Subteam Highlights (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:33 | |
| efried | scheduler (me) | 14:33 |
| efried | First thing: we've proposed to stop doing a separate scheduler meeting, and instead do a placement meeting in the same slot. | 14:34 |
| efried | #link n-sch => placement team meeting http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-March/004059.html | 14:34 |
| efried | The metadata patch already merged, so it's, like, official, but if you have objections, comments, suggestions, whatever, please respond to ^ or hit people up in IRC or whatever. | 14:34 |
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| sean-k-mooney | one question will we still cover it in this subteam section going forward | 14:35 |
| efried | on that note, does anyone feel the need to have a ... | 14:35 |
| efried | I think that's what I was going to ask | 14:35 |
| efried | does anyone feel the need to have a "placement team update" in the nova meeting? | 14:36 |
| efried | I'm going to go out on a limb and say no, because if you care, go read the logs of that meeting. | 14:36 |
| cdent | agree | 14:36 |
| efried | That said, I would still expect cdent or whoever to chime in if there are nova-impacting issues coming out of that meeting. | 14:36 |
| cdent | especially given the pupdate exists | 14:36 |
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| cdent | and yes, i'll be in both places | 14:36 |
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| sean-k-mooney | we may have non placement sechduler topics to discsuss but i have no strong feeling either way | 14:36 |
| edleafe | sean-k-mooney: those can be part of this meeting, no? | 14:37 |
| sean-k-mooney | correct they can | 14:37 |
| efried | sean-k-mooney: Yeah, sorry, that's the intent, for any such topics to be folded directly into this meeting. | 14:37 |
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| sean-k-mooney | sounds fine to me | 14:38 |
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| efried | we had subteam because that had turned into a long section, which eventually became almost exclusively about placement. Now that we have placement, it can be its own thing, and any sched-specific stuff can just be done here again | 14:38 |
| efried | if it stops working for whatever reason, we can re-evaluate. | 14:38 |
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| efried | on that note, here are the couple of nova-ish things that were brought up in Monday's n-sch meeting: | 14:38 |
| efried | #link inter-provider affinity brainstorm etherpad https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/placement-inter-provider-affinity | 14:38 |
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| efried | we've been knocking around this idea of "how do we do generic NUMA affinity" in the past several PTGs and a spec or two. Given we're starting to try to model NUMA in placement at all, I think we should bring this to the forefront. | 14:39 |
| efried | I've got that ^ on ptg etherpads. If you have ideas etc., please chime in. | 14:39 |
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| efried | and | 14:39 |
| efried | #link Nova scheduler using openstacksdk instead of direct ksa to talk to placement https://review.openstack.org/643664 | 14:39 |
| efried | Been working with mordred and dustinc on this | 14:40 |
| mordred | HECK YEAH BABY | 14:40 |
| efried | some people are excited about it | 14:40 |
| mordred | HECK YEAH BABY!!!! | 14:40 |
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| efried | This and its successor | 14:42 |
| efried | #link use openstacksdk instead of python-ironicclient https://review.openstack.org/#/c/642899/ | 14:42 |
| efried | are a couple steps on the road toward getting rid of nova's use of python-*clientZ and bringing us in line with the modern world of openstacksdk | 14:42 |
| efried | if you have interest and/or objections, please let me or mordred know. | 14:42 |
| efried | moving on | 14:42 |
| efried | API (gmann) ? | 14:42 |
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| sean-k-mooney | efried: just one question. the patch i quickly hacked up to test with ironic client do you want me to abandon that | 14:42 |
| efried | sean-k-mooney: I've been leaving it around as a reference for "how to do stuff", but it can serve in that capacity abandoned too. | 14:43 |
| efried | sean-k-mooney: but yeah, it's no longer needed, since I decided to go whole hog and bypass python-ironicclient completely. | 14:43 |
| efried | thanks for working that up for me. It was educational in any case. | 14:44 |
| sean-k-mooney | efried: ok i was debating if i shoudl convert it into a real change but ill abandon instead | 14:44 |
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| efried | Usually people mention something about gmann having sent an API subteam update. Where does that go? | 14:44 |
| efried | For now I guess we'll move on. | 14:45 |
| efried | #topic Stuck Reviews | 14:45 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Stuck Reviews (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:45 | |
| efried | any? | 14:45 |
| efried | #topic Open Discussion | 14:45 |
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| efried | anyone? | 14:46 |
| edleafe | I like turtles | 14:46 |
| efried | "turtle guard" is an oxymoron | 14:46 |
| efried | Okay, thanks all. | 14:47 |
| efried | o/ | 14:47 |
| efried | #endmeeting | 14:47 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 14:47 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Mar 21 14:47:15 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:47 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2019/nova.2019-03-21-14.00.html | 14:47 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2019/nova.2019-03-21-14.00.txt | 14:47 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2019/nova.2019-03-21-14.00.log.html | 14:47 |
| sean-k-mooney | o/ | 14:47 |
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| mdbooth | o/ | 14:47 |
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| gagehugo | #startmeeting security | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Mar 21 15:00:24 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gagehugo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: security)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'security' | 15:00 |
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| gagehugo | ping fungi gagehugo lhinds nickthetait browne redrobot | 15:00 |
| gagehugo | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/security-agenda agenda | 15:00 |
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| fungi | ohai | 15:01 |
| redrobot | \o | 15:01 |
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| Luzi | o/ | 15:02 |
| gagehugo | o/ | 15:02 |
| gagehugo | hey fungi redrobot Luzi | 15:04 |
| redrobot | igau' | 15:04 |
| redrobot | *ohai | 15:04 |
| gagehugo | Only got a couple things on the agenda for today | 15:05 |
| gagehugo | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1816727 | 15:05 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1816727 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "nova-novncproxy does not handle TCP RST cleanly when using SSL " [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to melanie witt (melwitt) | 15:05 |
| gagehugo | was made public recently | 15:05 |
| fungi | #link https://launchpad.net/bugs/1816727 nova-novncproxy does not handle TCP RST cleanly when using SSL | 15:06 |
| gagehugo | thanks fungi | 15:06 |
| fungi | this was classified as a security hardening opportunity, since the impact is assumed to be roughly the same as someone intentionally opening a lot of connections to the service and not closing them cleanly | 15:07 |
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| fungi | it's more just a fix to avoid people using certain kinds of load balancer health checks from unintentionally dos'ing their novnc | 15:07 |
| fungi | it's still recommended to have some sort of rate limiting/mitigating proxy in front of the service anyway, as it's not really robust in the face of intentional attacks | 15:09 |
| fungi | i didn't really have anything else to say on that one | 15:11 |
| gagehugo | ok, thanks again fungi | 15:12 |
| gagehugo | #topic Denver Summit | 15:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Denver Summit (Meeting topic: security)" | 15:12 | |
| * gagehugo is bad about remembering to do the topics | 15:13 | |
| gagehugo | So I reserved a room for 1 day at the summit for the security sig | 15:13 |
| gagehugo | once the schedule gets made I can send out an email to the mailing list | 15:13 |
| fungi | (just a heads up, i added something else to the agenda now) | 15:13 |
| gagehugo | :) | 15:14 |
| gagehugo | #topic ossa-2019-001 | 15:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "ossa-2019-001 (Meeting topic: security)" | 15:14 | |
| gagehugo | #link https://security.openstack.org/ossa/OSSA-2019-001.html OSSA report | 15:14 |
| fungi | OSSA-2019-001: Unsupported dport option prevents applying security groups | 15:15 |
| fungi | patch up! | 15:15 |
| fungi | it's our first ossa of the year | 15:15 |
| fungi | and patches made available by the neutron devs all the way back to stable/ocata | 15:15 |
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| gagehugo | nice | 15:18 |
| gagehugo | fungi anything else? | 15:18 |
| fungi | not on my end | 15:19 |
| gagehugo | #topic open discussion | 15:20 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: security)" | 15:20 | |
| gagehugo | Anyone have anything they want to bring up? | 15:20 |
| gagehugo | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/DEN-securitysig-topics | 15:20 |
| gagehugo | ^ if anyone has a topic for the summit session or PTG | 15:20 |
| gagehugo | otherwise I have nothing else for this week | 15:21 |
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| gagehugo | thanks for coming everyone! | 15:25 |
| gagehugo | have a good weekend | 15:25 |
| gagehugo | #endmeeting | 15:25 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Mar 21 15:25:43 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:25 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2019/security.2019-03-21-15.00.html | 15:25 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2019/security.2019-03-21-15.00.txt | 15:25 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2019/security.2019-03-21-15.00.log.html | 15:25 |
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| gmann | efried: RE: API summary on ML. i need to restart that, and find new time for API office hour too if needed. its is on hold due to my migration from tokyo | 17:07 |
| efried | gmann: ack, thanks. | 17:15 |
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