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| ekcs | #startmeeting congressteammeeting | 04:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Fri Jan 25 04:01:28 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ekcs. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 04:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 04:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: congressteammeeting)" | 04:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'congressteammeeting' | 04:01 |
| akhil_jain | ekcs: hi | 04:02 |
| ekcs | hello akhil_jain ! | 04:02 |
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| ekcs | happy friday! | 04:03 |
| akhil_jain | Happy friday | 04:03 |
| ekcs | topics are kept here as usual #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/congress-meeting-topics | 04:03 |
| ekcs | let’s take a minute to put down the topics we want to discuss today | 04:03 |
| ekcs | ok let’s get started then. | 04:07 |
| ekcs | #topic zuul migration & gate | 04:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "zuul migration & gate (Meeting topic: congressteammeeting)" | 04:08 | |
| ekcs | we had the issue that check jobs run from congress-tempest-plugin were not using the specified stable branches. that has been fixed with gmann’s help by adding a specification of branch override in the legacy playbooks. | 04:09 |
| ekcs | actually the patch is ready but not merged yet: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/631329/ | 04:10 |
| * gmann adding that in today review list. | 04:10 | |
| ekcs | ah thanks gmann haha. | 04:10 |
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| gmann | thanks for that migration. that is useful and helpful for infra/QA perspective | 04:11 |
| ekcs | along with it, patches are also created to migrate the master branch jobs to non-legacy format so that we should ha;ve fewer problems in the future. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/630414/ | 04:11 |
| ekcs | yup and thanks for the help gmann ! | 04:11 |
| ekcs | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/631609/ | 04:12 |
| ekcs | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/631894/ | 04:12 |
| ekcs | in the process we also moved to ubuntu bionic because stein will primarily target bionic rather than xenial. | 04:12 |
| ekcs | just wanted to give an update on these changes. any thoughts or comments? | 04:13 |
| gmann | +1 on moving to bionic | 04:14 |
| gmann | ekcs: it seems all running fine on bionic ? | 04:14 |
| ekcs | yes looks like it! | 04:14 |
| gmann | cool | 04:15 |
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| ekcs | ok moving on then. | 04:16 |
| ekcs | #topic use case in library for cross project network | 04:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "use case in library for cross project network (Meeting topic: congressteammeeting)" | 04:16 | |
| ekcs | akhil_jain: is that your topic? you wanna start us off? | 04:16 |
| akhil_jain | yes. i want to enquire about that use case. | 04:17 |
| akhil_jain | link https://github.com/openstack/congress/blob/master/library/cross_project_network.yaml | 04:17 |
| akhil_jain | we are making differnt groups and check if network from diff group atatched to differnt | 04:17 |
| akhil_jain | but by default according to me demo must not be able to see alt | 04:18 |
| akhil_jain | alt_demo networks. | 04:18 |
| akhil_jain | isnt that it or i am wrong somewhere? | 04:18 |
| ekcs | I think I understand each thing you’re saying, but I’m not sure what the problem is =p | 04:19 |
| akhil_jain | one project should not be able to see the network from other project until that is shared. so in which case are using this? | 04:19 |
| akhil_jain | is that is valid use case then? | 04:20 |
| ekcs | Ah I see. First I’ll say that the example policy is just an example. | 04:20 |
| akhil_jain | becuse if one project cannot see other project networks. it wont be able to attach to that. so what we are trying to achieve with this use case | 04:21 |
| akhil_jain | oh ok, if that is so. i was checking all of them to list use case we can achieve with congress. | 04:22 |
| akhil_jain | also for cfg_validator and cloudfoundry, do we have usecase? | 04:23 |
| gmann | ekcs: FYI, we are working to list all the use case of congress with all scenario. akhil_jain is preparing the sheet and then policy sample file. once all those policy sample file works fine then he can upstream those and document also | 04:24 |
| gmann | akhil_jain: may be we can share that sheet with ekcs on google sheet etc for his inout | 04:24 |
| gmann | input | 04:24 |
| akhil_jain | ya we can do that. and finally after all use cases are ready we can add to congress lib. that will be helpful for end users. | 04:25 |
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| ekcs | on this specific case: if there is no way for the violation to happen because of the openstack interface, then it’s not very compelling use case. But I can think of two reasons why we still include the policy example. | 04:25 |
| ekcs | 1. it illustrates an example of something congress can monitor/enforce even if it’s not necessary in the current openstack context. congress can be used with different virtial networking software and monitor this kind of policy. | 04:27 |
| gmann | i see, make sense. | 04:28 |
| akhil_jain | ekcs: thanks for explaining. got your point | 04:29 |
| ekcs | 2. in general, the principle for policy is that there can be a separation between the policy author and the system admins. Ideally, the people who write policy do not need to be intimately familiar with what is and isn’t possible. instead, they can simply write how things should be. | 04:30 |
| ekcs | 3. I guess 3 is that it’s an additional layer of check. suppose a hacker somehow exploited a bug to attach a certain network to a different project. then the policy will find it. | 04:30 |
| ekcs | gmann: Ah I see that’s cool. yes I’ll be happy to help with that! | 04:31 |
| ekcs | 3 is relevant in a multi-tenant situation. | 04:32 |
| akhil_jain | ekcs: ok i will share a google doc with you today | 04:32 |
| ekcs | cloudfoundry to be honest I’m not very familiar with it. | 04:32 |
| ekcs | cfg validator I can find the emails and specs and send to you. | 04:33 |
| akhil_jain | oh ok. i have found 2 cases as of now. that might not be achieveable by cuurent drivers. but we can with minor additions | 04:34 |
| ekcs | very cool! use case work is super valuable. | 04:34 |
| ekcs | ok any more on this topic? | 04:34 |
| akhil_jain | yes for making congress user friendly and easy to use. we need to add use cases | 04:35 |
| ekcs | +1 | 04:35 |
| akhil_jain | thats all for now | 04:35 |
| ekcs | #topic congress-neutron gate | 04:35 |
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| ekcs | ok maybe we can touch base a bit on the neutron test breakage. | 04:36 |
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| ekcs | great initiative tracking down the problem akhil_jain | 04:36 |
| ekcs | on this patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/631688/ | 04:36 |
| ekcs | I had some problem fully understanding the commit message. is it just the N/A vs OTHER mismatch or you’le also pointing out a different problem? | 04:37 |
| akhil_jain | thanks eric. but according to your comment i think neutron wont be aggreed with changing it. as they are managing floating_ip with differnt api set. and we are using ports api | 04:37 |
| ekcs | right. | 04:39 |
| akhil_jain | its about status field only. floating ip unless assigned. wuill show status N/A | 04:39 |
| akhil_jain | that in congress will be evaluated to OTHER | 04:39 |
| akhil_jain | Not sure if thats your question | 04:39 |
| ekcs | ok. | 04:40 |
| ekcs | ok I understand now. | 04:40 |
| akhil_jain | so whats your opinion on this? change in congress or in tempest-plugin test? | 04:41 |
| * akhil_jain options | 04:41 | |
| akhil_jain | 1. skiping in tempest plugin 2. adding NA in congress. | 04:42 |
| ekcs | I’d think change in congress. at least as long as neutron team confirms N/A is correct behavior. | 04:42 |
| ekcs | I think we can skip the test on floating ip for now, as you have done in the patch. | 04:42 |
| akhil_jain | ok then I will raise bug as you said. and lets see their response | 04:42 |
| ekcs | then change congress once neutron team confirms. | 04:42 |
| ekcs | does that make sense? | 04:43 |
| akhil_jain | ok sounds good to me | 04:43 |
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| ekcs | great! | 04:43 |
| ekcs | #topic patches | 04:43 |
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| ekcs | ok do we have any patches to discuss? | 04:43 |
| akhil_jain | not from my side this time. | 04:44 |
| ekcs | btw I’ll be pushing the next part to this json polling ingester hopefully today. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/629691/ | 04:45 |
| ekcs | ok then! | 04:45 |
| ekcs | #topic py36 | 04:45 |
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| ekcs | just a quick mention as people are adding py36 jobs, they run into problems with the current latest version of congress not supporting according to setup.cfg. so I’ll be putting out a new release | 04:47 |
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| ekcs | i mean congress client. | 04:47 |
| ekcs | ok that’s all from me. | 04:48 |
| ekcs | #topic open discussion | 04:50 |
| ekcs | anything else to discuss for today? | 04:50 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: congressteammeeting)" | 04:50 | |
| akhil_jain | ekcs: not from my side | 04:51 |
| ekcs | ok then! | 04:51 |
| ekcs | helpful discussions today. let’s end meeting then. | 04:52 |
| ekcs | have a great weekend! | 04:52 |
| akhil_jain | Thanks and you too! | 04:53 |
| ekcs | #endmeeting | 04:53 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 04:53 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Fri Jan 25 04:53:11 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 04:53 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2019/congressteammeeting.2019-01-25-04.01.html | 04:53 |
| ekcs | bye! | 04:53 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2019/congressteammeeting.2019-01-25-04.01.txt | 04:53 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2019/congressteammeeting.2019-01-25-04.01.log.html | 04:53 |
| akhil_jain | bye! | 04:53 |
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| mlavalle | #startmeeting neutron_drivers | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Fri Jan 25 14:00:19 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mlavalle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_drivers' | 14:00 |
| njohnston | o/ | 14:00 |
| slaweq | hi | 14:00 |
| mlavalle | o/ | 14:01 |
| mlavalle | we know amotoki won't be able to join today | 14:01 |
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| mlavalle | neither haleyb | 14:01 |
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| slaweq | so we are waiting for yamomoto :) | 14:02 |
| mlavalle | pretty much | 14:02 |
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| yamamoto | hi | 14:08 |
| mlavalle | hi yamamoto | 14:08 |
| mlavalle | good to see you | 14:09 |
| slaweq | hi | 14:09 |
| yamamoto | sorry for being late | 14:09 |
| mlavalle | This is what we have to discuss today: | 14:10 |
| mlavalle | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?field.tag=rfe-triaged | 14:10 |
| mlavalle | let's get going | 14:10 |
| mlavalle | #topic RFEs discussion | 14:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "RFEs discussion (Meeting topic: neutron_drivers)" | 14:10 | |
| mlavalle | From the top of the list, let's revisit https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1808062 | 14:10 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1808062 in neutron "[RFE] Limit VXLAN to within Neutron availability zones" [Wishlist,New] | 14:10 |
| haleyb | mlavalle: sorry i'm late | 14:12 |
| mlavalle | haleyb: hey good to see you. we are discussing ^^^^ | 14:12 |
| mlavalle | just started | 14:12 |
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| slaweq | about this vxlan limit to one AZ, I think that this makes sense but IMO it will require quite big changes, like connect network with specific AZ, changes in the way how vxlan endpoints are "calculated" and so on | 14:18 |
| mlavalle | yeah, if approved, we are going to need a spec | 14:19 |
| slaweq | also what in case if on one host there will be 1 VM connected to such "separate AZ" network - so vxlan tunnels have to be limited only to this AZ | 14:19 |
| slaweq | and also if there will be on this host vm connected to other network which isn't limited to one AZ | 14:19 |
| slaweq | as You said mlavalle, I think we need spec for that as it's pretty complex change IMHO | 14:19 |
| mlavalle | but conceptually I think it makes sense, especialy in light of the trend towards edge computing, which the RFE seems to reflect | 14:20 |
| slaweq | mlavalle: I agree | 14:21 |
| haleyb | yes, it seems good overall to me, drilling down into the details in a spec would be good | 14:21 |
| slaweq | this makes sense but there is a lot of things to consider | 14:21 |
| mlavalle | any thoughts yamamoto? | 14:25 |
| yamamoto | is it specific to vxlan? | 14:26 |
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| mlavalle | yes | 14:27 |
| yamamoto | how? the concept looks tunneling protocol agnostic | 14:28 |
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| mlavalle | well yeah, once you get to the description, seems tunneling protocol agnostic | 14:29 |
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| mlavalle | he chose to to scope it to vxlan in the title, though | 14:29 |
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| mlavalle | you have a point | 14:30 |
| yamamoto | i don't think it makes much sense to have rfes for each protocols | 14:30 |
| mlavalle | you are right | 14:31 |
| mlavalle | we can request the spec to be written having tunnels in general as the scope | 14:31 |
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| yamamoto | i guess it's ok for the submitter as he seems interested in geneve as well | 14:32 |
| mlavalle | yes, there is a separte rfe that mentions geneve, although he scoped that one for ovn exclusively | 14:33 |
| mlavalle | but again, we can request the spec to be developed for tunnels in general | 14:33 |
| yamamoto | the use case makes sense | 14:35 |
| yamamoto | i'm not sure if (ab?)using az is the best way though | 14:35 |
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| mlavalle | what would you suggest? | 14:36 |
| yamamoto | i have no alternative suggestion right now | 14:37 |
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| mlavalle | so maybe let's move ahead requesting a spec so we can dig further and have a discussion with the broader community. | 14:37 |
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| mlavalle | makes sense? | 14:38 |
| yamamoto | yes | 14:38 |
| slaweq | yes | 14:38 |
| mlavalle | cool | 14:38 |
| mlavalle | let me leave a comment in there | 14:38 |
| mlavalle | done | 14:40 |
| mlavalle | next one in the list is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1809037 | 14:40 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1809037 in neutron "[RFE] Add anti_affinity_group to binding:profile" [Wishlist,Triaged] - Assigned to Hongbin Lu (hongbin.lu) | 14:40 |
| slaweq | is it only matter of adding information to binding:profile in port? Or some bigger changes on Neutron side are required? e.g. reporting to nova/placement about what PFs are no host or somethig like that | 14:43 |
| mlavalle | it seems it is only adding informnation to the binding profile | 14:44 |
| slaweq | if that would be all to do on our side, then it would be great :) | 14:45 |
| mlavalle | there is no need to count resource consumption, so placement is not needed | 14:45 |
| slaweq | but nova don't need to know how many PFs is still available on host? | 14:46 |
| slaweq | how nova will schedule instance to good host? | 14:46 |
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| yamamoto | is this the right nova spec for this? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/626055/ | 14:48 |
| mlavalle | ahh, you beat me to it | 14:49 |
| mlavalle | yes, it seems it is | 14:49 |
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| slaweq | ok, so it looks that nova will somehow handle that :) | 14:50 |
| mlavalle | yes, looking here, it seems that is the case: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/626055/8/specs/stein/approved/sriov-bond.rst@52 | 14:51 |
| slaweq | if so, I'm ok with adding such field to port's binding:profile | 14:51 |
| mlavalle | yes, seems a simple change for us | 14:52 |
| mlavalle | so I think we can move ahead with it | 14:53 |
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| slaweq | +1 | 14:53 |
| yamamoto | give me a few min | 14:54 |
| mlavalle | sure | 14:55 |
| mlavalle | any thoughts haleyb? | 14:55 |
| yamamoto | +1 | 14:56 |
| haleyb | mlavalle: sorry, someone was asking a question here... | 14:56 |
| mlavalle | no problem haleyb | 14:56 |
| haleyb | +1 from me | 14:57 |
| mlavalle | ok so we can move ahead with this one | 14:57 |
| mlavalle | since we are close to the top of the hour, I'll use the remaning few minutes to leave a comment in the RFE | 14:57 |
| mlavalle | THanks for attending | 14:57 |
| yamamoto | thank you | 14:58 |
| mlavalle | see you next week, same time, same channel | 14:58 |
| slaweq | thx, have a great weekend guys :) | 14:58 |
| mlavalle | have a great weekend | 14:58 |
| mlavalle | #endmeeting | 14:58 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2019/neutron_drivers.2019-01-25-14.00.html | 14:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2019/neutron_drivers.2019-01-25-14.00.txt | 14:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2019/neutron_drivers.2019-01-25-14.00.log.html | 14:58 |
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