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| samP | Hi all for masakari | 04:00 |
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| samP | #startmeeting masakari | 04:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Nov 20 04:00:11 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is samP. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 04:00 |
| tpatil | Hi | 04:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 04:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: masakari)" | 04:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'masakari' | 04:00 |
| samP | tpatil: Hi | 04:00 |
| samP | Let's start | 04:00 |
| samP | #topic Critical bugs/patches | 04:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Critical bugs/patches (Meeting topic: masakari)" | 04:00 | |
| tpatil | #link : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/615752 | 04:00 |
| tpatil | this patch is to fix openstack client issue | 04:01 |
| sagara | Hi | 04:01 |
| tpatil | if python-masakariclient is installed then osc doesn't work for any command | 04:01 |
| samP | sagara: hi | 04:01 |
| tpatil | Please review this patch | 04:01 |
| samP | tpatil: got it. LGTM | 04:01 |
| samP | tpatil: thanks for the fix | 04:01 |
| tpatil | we will need to back port it to stable Rocky branch as well | 04:02 |
| samP | tpatil: OK, let vote now. | 04:02 |
| samP | sagara: Can you review this patch? ^^ | 04:02 |
| samP | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/615752 | 04:03 |
| sagara | samP: OK, I'll review it later | 04:03 |
| samP | sagara: thanks | 04:03 |
| tpatil | Also, please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/616068 | 04:04 |
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| samP | tpatil: OK, this is the cache issue | 04:04 |
| tpatil | yes, same db session is used to create and get resources | 04:05 |
| samP | tpatil: I need time to understand this. I will do review this. | 04:05 |
| tpatil | Ok, Thanks | 04:05 |
| samP | tpatil: Do we need to backport this? to Rocky? | 04:06 |
| tpatil | Basically, there are other ways to fix this issue as well | 04:06 |
| tpatil | 1. In version objects | 04:06 |
| tpatil | 2. API Controller layer | 04:06 |
| tpatil | samP: No need to back port this issue | 04:06 |
| tpatil | I mean it's not critical/blocker issue | 04:07 |
| samP | tpatil: got it. But the problem was there in rocky and earlier? | 04:08 |
| tpatil | yes, this issue exists since beginning | 04:09 |
| tpatil | during writing openstacksdk functional tests, we encountered this issue | 04:09 |
| samP | tpatil: OK. Sorry I dont have enough knowledge of this. I will read your patch and review it. | 04:11 |
| samP | Then, let's discuss whether to backport or not. | 04:12 |
| tpatil | ok | 04:12 |
| samP | any other critical issus? | 04:12 |
| samP | if not let's jump to next topic. | 04:14 |
| samP | Please bring up any critical issues anytime | 04:15 |
| samP | #topic Stein Work Items | 04:15 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Stein Work Items (Meeting topic: masakari)" | 04:15 | |
| samP | Since we all are in summit last week, might not have any progress | 04:15 |
| tpatil | No big progress at my end | 04:16 |
| samP | tpatil: got it. | 04:16 |
| samP | OK then, pretty quick but let's finish the meeting, if nothing to share | 04:17 |
| tpatil | Ok, let's end today's meeting early | 04:18 |
| samP | Thank you for your time! | 04:18 |
| samP | #endmeeting | 04:18 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Nov 20 04:18:38 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 04:18 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/masakari/2018/masakari.2018-11-20-04.00.html | 04:18 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/masakari/2018/masakari.2018-11-20-04.00.txt | 04:18 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/masakari/2018/masakari.2018-11-20-04.00.log.html | 04:18 |
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| jiaopengju | #startmeeting karbor | 09:09 |
| jiaopengju | hi, all, it’s karbor meeting time, anyone has some topics to discuss? | 09:10 |
| jiaopengju | it seems the meeting robot is not working, I will try to end the meeting soon. If you has someting that want me know, please join the karbor irc channel | 09:16 |
| jiaopengju | #endmeeting | 09:16 |
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| frickler | jiaopengju: just a remark for next time, avoid having a space in front of the "#startmeeting" command, because that causes the bot to ignore it | 12:34 |
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| mlavalle | #startmeeting networking | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Nov 20 14:00:27 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mlavalle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: networking)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking' | 14:00 |
| mlavalle | hi | 14:00 |
| slaweq | hi | 14:00 |
| amotoki | hi | 14:00 |
| boden | howdy | 14:01 |
| amotoki | I still seem to be in jet lag. This meeting time is fine today :) | 14:01 |
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| mlavalle | amotoki: LOL | 14:01 |
| rubasov | o/ | 14:01 |
| slaweq | :) | 14:02 |
| mlavalle | ok, let's get going | 14:02 |
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| mlavalle | As usual the meeting's agenda is here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/Meetings | 14:02 |
| mlavalle | #Topic Announcements | 14:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: networking)" | 14:03 | |
| mlavalle | Our next milestone is Stein-2, January 7 - 11 | 14:03 |
| mlavalle | The other topic I wanted to share with the team is that last week the TC approved and merged vision for OpenStack Clouds: | 14:05 |
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| mlavalle | #link https://governance.openstack.org/tc/reference/technical-vision.html | 14:05 |
| mlavalle | This is meant to be a vision developed by OpenStack developers for OpenStack developers | 14:06 |
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| mlavalle | it is expected to help guide, at a high level, how we develop OpenStack services | 14:06 |
| mlavalle | I encourgage the team to read and internalize it | 14:06 |
| mlavalle | and of course, if you have more ideas to add to it, please feel free to propose a follow up patch | 14:07 |
| njohnston | o/ | 14:07 |
| mlavalle | any other announcements? | 14:07 |
| mlavalle | ok, let's move on... | 14:08 |
| mlavalle | #topic Blueprints | 14:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Blueprints (Meeting topic: networking)" | 14:08 | |
| mlavalle | These are the blueprints that we are targeting for Stein-2: https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/stein-2 | 14:09 |
| mlavalle | Does anyone have an update / request on the blueprint you are working on? | 14:10 |
| mlavalle | ok, I have a couple of updates / questions.... | 14:11 |
| mlavalle | First, The StarlingX project has currently is based on the Pike release | 14:12 |
| mlavalle | The goal by the end of Stein is to converge with master in all the projects | 14:12 |
| mlavalle | In order to do that, there is a number of specs / patches that need to be merged, mostly in Neutron and Nova (minor things in Glance) | 14:13 |
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| mlavalle | In Neutron we are in very good shape beacause we have been working with them since the PTG in Denver | 14:13 |
| mlavalle | I am going to create a blueprint to track the patches / specs that we need to merge in Stein | 14:14 |
| amotoki | general question: where are they tracked? | 14:14 |
| amotoki | ah... your last comment answered me | 14:14 |
| mlavalle | and I am also going to send to the ML the PDF with the "gap analysis" that describes them | 14:15 |
| mlavalle | amotoki: and also the PDF sheds light on them. Let's focues on the Neutron section | 14:15 |
| amotoki | mlavalle: thanks | 14:15 |
| mlavalle | The other point I question I want to ask is in regards to https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/port-mirroring-sriov-vf | 14:16 |
| mlavalle | does anyone know who is core in the Tap-as-a-service project? | 14:16 |
| amotoki | I think takashi is a core of taas | 14:17 |
| mlavalle | It is not under Neutron governance, so we need help there | 14:17 |
| mlavalle | amotoki: perfect, I'll follow up with him | 14:17 |
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| rubasov | here's the core list: https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/957,members | 14:17 |
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| amotoki | mlavalle: some other taas cores are from fujitsu. I can ask yushiro to check the status | 14:17 |
| mlavalle | amotoki: that would be very helpful. Thanks | 14:18 |
| mlavalle | thanks rubasov | 14:18 |
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| yamamoto | kaz and I are somehow responsive if you ping. other cores are inactive. | 14:19 |
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| mlavalle | yamamoto: thanks. there is a patch in tap as a service waiting for review for the port mirroring functionality | 14:20 |
| mlavalle | if you have time, please take a look | 14:20 |
| mlavalle | I know you have been giving feedback on the spec | 14:20 |
| mlavalle | Thanks | 14:20 |
| yamamoto | i'm aware of the patch. a large patch will take longer :-) | 14:20 |
| mlavalle | thanks | 14:21 |
| njohnston | Progress continues on bulk port update - battling an enginefacade error when testing with one of the changes but I think there are a couple of changes that are pretty close. | 14:21 |
| mlavalle | thanks for the update njohnston :-) | 14:22 |
| mlavalle | anything else on blueprints? | 14:22 |
| mlavalle | ok, next topic is | 14:23 |
| mlavalle | #topic Community goals | 14:23 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Community goals (Meeting topic: networking)" | 14:23 | |
| mlavalle | amotoki: any updates on policy in code? | 14:24 |
| amotoki | re: policy-incode, I am preparing a email to dev list (now -discuss ML) to drop user_name:neutron from neutron policy.json to simplify the further effort. | 14:24 |
| amotoki | as far as I checked no project uses advsvc explicitly, so I concluded it woudl be fine to send a mail to ML along with a devstack patch | 14:24 |
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| mlavalle | any other help you might need form the team? | 14:25 |
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| mlavalle | I take that as a no :-) | 14:26 |
| amotoki | perhaps I would like to ask testing and detail reviews. | 14:26 |
| mlavalle | njohnston: any updates on Python 3? | 14:26 |
| amotoki | At least I should pass the test. | 14:26 |
| njohnston | So we're discussing Python 3 in the CI meeting, later today, but I put together an etherpad that summs up the current state of things (although I have not delved as far as I need to for the experimental jobs). So I expect that will help drive the work that needs to be done. | 14:27 |
| njohnston | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron_ci_python3 | 14:27 |
| mlavalle | njohnston: do you need volunteers? | 14:28 |
| njohnston | I would never say no to a volunteer. :-) | 14:29 |
| mlavalle | ok | 14:29 |
| mlavalle | so team, if you are interested in helping with the py3 community goals, please look at the etherpad and join the CI meeting at 1600UTC today in this same channel | 14:30 |
| yamamoto | i have a question about py3 | 14:30 |
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| yamamoto | what importance should be for py3 related bugs these days? | 14:30 |
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| yamamoto | like this https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1804173 | 14:30 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1804173 in neutron "Metadata proxy server SSL handshake problem if Python >= 3" [Undecided,New] | 14:30 |
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| mlavalle | yamamoto: I think the same importance as any other bug | 14:31 |
| mlavalle | it really depends on the impact in the project | 14:31 |
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| yamamoto | ok. makes sense | 14:32 |
| yamamoto | btw i have no idea about the above bug so anyone familiar with the topic please help triage it :-) | 14:32 |
| mlavalle | LOL. Thanks | 14:32 |
| * mlavalle notices yamamoto is already performing his bugs deputy duties :-) | 14:32 | |
| mlavalle | slaweq: any updates on pre-upgrade checks? | 14:33 |
| slaweq | actually yes | 14:33 |
| slaweq | I wanted to raise for review patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/615196/ | 14:34 |
| slaweq | it's patch which will allow to use checks by entrypoints so e.g. stadium projects will be able to load their checks to neutron cli tool | 14:34 |
| slaweq | once this will be done, we will be done with base framework I think | 14:34 |
| slaweq | and we will be ready to implement some real checks if that will be necessary | 14:35 |
| mlavalle | and the goal for Stein, right? | 14:35 |
| slaweq | actually goal is fine now as we have base cli tool merged already | 14:35 |
| mlavalle | ahead of the curve.... Nice! | 14:35 |
| mlavalle | Thanks for the update? | 14:36 |
| slaweq | yw? ;) | 14:36 |
| mlavalle | LOL | 14:36 |
| mlavalle | ok, let's move on | 14:37 |
| mlavalle | #topic Bugs | 14:37 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: networking)" | 14:37 | |
| mlavalle | Last week lujinluo was our bugs deputy | 14:38 |
| mlavalle | She doesn't seem to be on-line | 14:38 |
| mlavalle | and I didn't find any message to the ML from her. Did anyone see it? | 14:38 |
| slaweq | nope | 14:39 |
| mlavalle | ok | 14:39 |
| mlavalle | any bugs that should be discussed here today? | 14:39 |
| boden | hi | 14:39 |
| boden | can I bring one up quick | 14:39 |
| mlavalle | of course | 14:39 |
| boden | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1787420 | 14:40 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1787420 in neutron "Floating ip association to router interface should be restricted" [Low,In progress] - Assigned to Michal Kelner Mishali (mkelnermishal) | 14:40 |
| boden | for which there's already a patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/599572/ | 14:40 |
| boden | looks like we are still waiting on a response from the drivers team on the patch? | 14:40 |
| mlavalle | boden: mhhh. I'll take a look today | 14:41 |
| boden | mlavalle thanks | 14:41 |
| liuyulong | We met the but https://launchpad.net/bugs/1803919 locally last week. And I added a patch set here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/618720/ | 14:41 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1803919 in neutron "[L2] dataplane down during ovs-agent restart" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to LIU Yulong (dragon889) | 14:41 |
| liuyulong | s/but/bug | 14:41 |
| mlavalle | liuyulong: thanks, will take a look at it | 14:43 |
| mlavalle | This week, our deputy is yamamoto, who, as you have noticed, is already hard at work. Thanks! | 14:43 |
| mlavalle | let's move on | 14:43 |
| mlavalle | #topic neutron-lib | 14:44 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "neutron-lib (Meeting topic: networking)" | 14:44 | |
| mlavalle | boden: you are up | 14:44 |
| boden | hi | 14:44 |
| * mlavalle has an update for boden | 14:44 | |
| boden | go ahead mlavalle | 14:44 |
| mlavalle | I had conversations with some people regarding networking-sfc. I targeted people I though have interest in the project, since their own projects depened on it | 14:45 |
| mlavalle | This people are: the Tacker PTL. He indicated he is available to help to merge patches | 14:45 |
| boden | mlavalle; ok we can see how it goes... I think SFC is behind already so I'll have to take some time to submit some patches to get them up to date | 14:46 |
| mlavalle | in the OPNFV community, they also use networking-sfc. In fact, they have a sfc project that depends on it. Manuel Buil(mbuil) is the PTL and he has also accepted to help merging patches | 14:46 |
| mlavalle | I talked to him in Berlin | 14:47 |
| mlavalle | and finally, I also taked to tmorin, who also accepted to help. his project depends on it | 14:47 |
| boden | thanks for taking the time to reach out to these folks | 14:47 |
| mlavalle | that's my update | 14:47 |
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| boden | ok I just have a brief update for neutron-lib | 14:48 |
| amotoki | mlavalle: which project does mbull work on as PTL in OPNFV? | 14:48 |
| mlavalle | amotoki: the sfc project. I don't remeber the excat name | 14:48 |
| amotoki | thanks, my colleague work on OPNFV actively and I will let him know this. | 14:48 |
| mlavalle | and it is mbuil | 14:48 |
| mlavalle | amotoki: ^^^^ | 14:49 |
| amotoki | i made typo... :( | 14:49 |
| mlavalle | He is based out of Spain, so closer to you in time zones | 14:49 |
| mlavalle | boden: go ahead | 14:49 |
| boden | I know we just released 1.20.0, but I'd like to plan another release in the near future; maybe next week after the holiday.. there's a few patches I need for some of the decouple-db work | 14:49 |
| mlavalle | that is fine with me | 14:50 |
| boden | still waiting for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/615941/ but after that lands I'd be ready to do a release | 14:50 |
| boden | other than that, just business as usual.. moving pretty slow this release, but I won't whine too much about it :) | 14:50 |
| boden | and that's it for me | 14:50 |
| mlavalle | in fact I have some changes to the extension definition for qos rules alias, based on my experience with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/613820/ | 14:51 |
| yamamoto | boden: thank you for your patience with subprojects | 14:51 |
| mlavalle | so the new release is timely for me | 14:51 |
| mlavalle | boden: yes, you do great job on that | 14:51 |
| boden | thanks guys.. nothing else from me | 14:52 |
| mlavalle | :-) | 14:52 |
| mlavalle | I don't see hongbin on line, so we will skip os-ken | 14:52 |
| mlavalle | #topic On demand agenda | 14:52 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "On demand agenda (Meeting topic: networking)" | 14:52 | |
| mlavalle | Anything else we should discuss today? | 14:52 |
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| mlavalle | ok, I give back 5 minutes to your busy days | 14:54 |
| mlavalle | Have a great week | 14:54 |
| boden | cheers | 14:54 |
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| mlavalle | and happy Thanksgiving for those in the USA | 14:54 |
| mlavalle | #endmeeting | 14:54 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 14:54 | |
| njohnston | \o | 14:54 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Nov 20 14:54:24 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:54 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2018/networking.2018-11-20-14.00.html | 14:54 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2018/networking.2018-11-20-14.00.txt | 14:54 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2018/networking.2018-11-20-14.00.log.html | 14:54 |
| amotoki | happy holidays! | 14:54 |
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| ralonsoh | #startmeeting neutron_qos | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Nov 20 15:00:18 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ralonsoh. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_qos)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_qos' | 15:00 |
| ralonsoh | hi | 15:00 |
| njohnston | o/ | 15:00 |
| mlavalle | o/ | 15:00 |
| * mlavalle welcomes back ralonsoh as the chair of this meeting \o/ | 15:01 | |
| ralonsoh | thanks! I'll do my best today | 15:01 |
| mlavalle | Bienvenido | 15:01 |
| rubasov | o/ | 15:02 |
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| ralonsoh | please, if I miss something, say it | 15:02 |
| ralonsoh | let's start | 15:02 |
| ralonsoh | #topic RFEs | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "RFEs (Meeting topic: neutron_qos)" | 15:02 | |
| ralonsoh | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1560963 | 15:02 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1560963 in neutron "[RFE] Minimum bandwidth support (egress)" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Rodolfo Alonso (rodolfo-alonso-hernandez) | 15:02 |
| slaweq | hi, sorry for being late :) | 15:02 |
| ralonsoh | I have started again pushing an old patch to have egress QoS in physical and ext bridges, but not tunnel | 15:03 |
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| ralonsoh | tunnel bridges egress QoS must be addressed in other patch | 15:03 |
| ralonsoh | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/406841/ | 15:03 |
| mlavalle | thanks for picking this up | 15:03 |
| ralonsoh | this is just an initial draft | 15:04 |
| ralonsoh | let's see if I can finish it now | 15:04 |
| mlavalle | and pretty sure you will :-) | 15:04 |
| ralonsoh | ok, next one | 15:04 |
| ralonsoh | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1727578 | 15:05 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1727578 in neutron "[RFE]Support apply qos policy in VPN service" [Wishlist,Triaged] | 15:05 |
| ralonsoh | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/558986/ | 15:05 |
| mlavalle | that one is being taken care of by my colleague Zhabo | 15:05 |
| mlavalle | Zhaobo | 15:05 |
| ralonsoh | is still WIP | 15:05 |
| mlavalle | yes, he is focused right now on three features in Octavia | 15:05 |
| ralonsoh | and seems not to be progress since Oct | 15:05 |
| mlavalle | but he is commited to come back to this one in this cycle | 15:06 |
| ralonsoh | ok, so we can wait for this one | 15:06 |
| ralonsoh | I'll skip it | 15:06 |
| ralonsoh | next one | 15:06 |
| ralonsoh | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1757044 | 15:06 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1757044 in neutron "[RFE] neutron L3 router gateway IP QoS" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to LIU Yulong (dragon889) | 15:06 |
| ralonsoh | Patches in progress: | 15:06 |
| ralonsoh | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/424468/ - server side patch, | 15:06 |
| ralonsoh | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/568526/ - agent side patch, | 15:06 |
| mlavalle | I'll review them this week | 15:07 |
| mlavalle | They are in my pile | 15:07 |
| ralonsoh | agent side has one +2 | 15:07 |
| ralonsoh | same as server side | 15:07 |
| mlavalle | yeap | 15:07 |
| mlavalle | I feel the pressure | 15:07 |
| mlavalle | :-) | 15:07 |
| ralonsoh | I'll review them this week to (two more to my pile) | 15:08 |
| mlavalle | ralonsoh: thanks. I was about to ask | 15:08 |
| ralonsoh | *too | 15:08 |
| ralonsoh | any comment on those ones? | 15:08 |
| mlavalle | not from me | 15:09 |
| ralonsoh | ok, next one | 15:09 |
| ralonsoh | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1777627 | 15:09 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1777627 in neutron "RFE: QoS – rule's management (set,delete, show…) requires <qos-policy> parameter in addition to <rule-id>" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Miguel Lavalle (minsel) | 15:09 |
| ralonsoh | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/613820/ | 15:09 |
| mlavalle | yeap | 15:10 |
| mlavalle | it's good to go from my point of viw | 15:10 |
| ralonsoh | ok, another one to the review backlog fro everyone | 15:10 |
| mlavalle | please note that based on the experience with this patch, I'll update the api-ref and the extension definition ijn neutron-lib | 15:10 |
| ralonsoh | why are not you pushing the change to neutron-lib now? | 15:11 |
| ralonsoh | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/613820/4/neutron/extensions/_qos_rules_alias_lib.py | 15:11 |
| mlavalle | I'll do it this week | 15:11 |
| ralonsoh | perfect | 15:11 |
| mlavalle | just lack of time in Berlin | 15:12 |
| ralonsoh | sure, busy week | 15:12 |
| ralonsoh | next one | 15:12 |
| ralonsoh | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1578989 | 15:12 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1578989 in neutron "[RFE] Strict minimum bandwidth support (egress)" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Lajos Katona (lajos-katona) | 15:12 |
| rubasov | slow progress with open patches during the summit | 15:13 |
| ralonsoh | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:minimum-bandwidth-allocation-placement-api+(status:open+OR+status:merged) | 15:13 |
| mlavalle | rubasov did a great demo last week | 15:13 |
| ralonsoh | fantastic! | 15:13 |
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| mlavalle | despite having to wrestle to submission the projection equipment | 15:13 |
| rubasov | we'll have a youtube video of the presentation done together with mlavalle and gibi soon | 15:13 |
| ralonsoh | once you have it, please share it! | 15:14 |
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| mlavalle | it was 6pm on the last day of the summit and rubasov had the audience spellbound with a CLI demo | 15:14 |
| rubasov | with lajoskatona we plan to have a bit more focus in the coming weeks and produce a new set of changes | 15:14 |
| rubasov | ralonsoh: will do | 15:14 |
| rubasov | mlavalle: thanks for the flattery | 15:15 |
| ralonsoh | about the patches, only in neutron there are still 7 ongoing patches: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:minimum-bandwidth-allocation-placement-api+(status:open) | 15:15 |
| rubasov | lajoskatona's open patches are all close to being merged | 15:16 |
| ralonsoh | so I encourage everyone to take a look at them | 15:16 |
| rubasov | so the number will be lower soon | 15:16 |
| mlavalle | ack | 15:16 |
| ralonsoh | is a big feature, I now | 15:16 |
| ralonsoh | any tech problem you want to talk about? | 15:17 |
| rubasov | and we made an update to our todo etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/QoS_minimum_bandwidth_allocation_in_Placement_API | 15:17 |
| rubasov | it's quite complex | 15:17 |
| rubasov | so I only recommend it for the brave | 15:17 |
| mlavalle | I think the brave includes everybody in this meeting | 15:17 |
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| mlavalle | ralonsoh runs bulls every year in Panplona | 15:18 |
| mlavalle | and El Comandante in Poland is fearless | 15:18 |
| ralonsoh | sure...... hehehee | 15:18 |
| rubasov | wow :-) | 15:18 |
| rubasov | and that's about all from me | 15:19 |
| ralonsoh | thanks! | 15:19 |
| ralonsoh | there are a couple more RFEs | 15:19 |
| ralonsoh | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1787792 | 15:19 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1787792 in neutron "[RFE] Does not support ipv6 N-S qos" [Wishlist,New] | 15:19 |
| mlavalle | thanks rubasov lajoskatona.... great work | 15:20 |
| ralonsoh | is there any update or new comment on these one? | 15:20 |
| mlavalle | I'll start working on this one when I finish the rules alias | 15:20 |
| ralonsoh | perfect | 15:20 |
| ralonsoh | we'll update the status next week | 15:21 |
| mlavalle | in fact, if you can provide you thoughts in the RFE, I will appreciate it a lot ralonsoh | 15:21 |
| ralonsoh | sure | 15:21 |
| ralonsoh | where is the link? | 15:21 |
| ralonsoh | I don't see it in the bug | 15:21 |
| mlavalle | ralonsoh: I meant the RFE itself. If you have any thoughts or advice, it will be appreciated | 15:22 |
| mlavalle | or guidance | 15:22 |
| ralonsoh | oh, you said the bug itself | 15:22 |
| mlavalle | yeap | 15:22 |
| ralonsoh | added to my pile | 15:22 |
| mlavalle | :-) | 15:22 |
| ralonsoh | ok, last one | 15:23 |
| ralonsoh | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1787793 | 15:23 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1787793 in neutron "[RFE] Does not support shared N-S qos per-tenant" [Wishlist,New] | 15:23 |
| ralonsoh | this one is tricky | 15:23 |
| mlavalle | yes | 15:24 |
| ralonsoh | is LIU here? | 15:24 |
| mlavalle | and I am also willing to work on it | 15:24 |
| liuyulong | yes | 15:24 |
| ralonsoh | liuyulong, you have two patches | 15:24 |
| ralonsoh | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/568526/ | 15:25 |
| ralonsoh | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/568526/ | 15:25 |
| ralonsoh | from the other RFE | 15:25 |
| ralonsoh | you stated that those patches could resolve this problem | 15:26 |
| * mlavalle listens | 15:26 | |
| liuyulong | Hmm, this bug is for share bandwidth for entire tenant | 15:26 |
| liuyulong | The patches I submitted there, it is for traditional router gateway IPs QoS. | 15:27 |
| ralonsoh | you said that handling QoS in the router gateway | 15:27 |
| ralonsoh | the limits will be shared by the tenant | 15:28 |
| ralonsoh | liuyulong, ? | 15:29 |
| liuyulong | This bug is something like this. Users buy a bandwidth once from the provider. | 15:29 |
| liuyulong | Then share this bandwidth crossing the tenant's floating IPs, gateway IPs, VPN IPs, and so on. | 15:30 |
| mlavalle | and ports | 15:30 |
| ralonsoh | but what happens if none of the tenants are using FIPs? | 15:31 |
| mlavalle | right | 15:31 |
| ralonsoh | and you are not limiting physically the BW in the host | 15:31 |
| ralonsoh | for example, if you are not using DVR | 15:31 |
| liuyulong | Yes, this is the point, they want share a bandwidth for floating IPs. | 15:32 |
| ralonsoh | ok | 15:32 |
| mlavalle | can we debate / disucss in the RFE? | 15:32 |
| ralonsoh | sure, that's better | 15:32 |
| mlavalle | if we can come up with a nice design | 15:32 |
| liuyulong | And dvr or different routers' floating IP make things a little complicated. | 15:32 |
| mlavalle | I'll be glad to work on the implementation | 15:33 |
| ralonsoh | let's discuss in the RFE | 15:33 |
| liuyulong | OK | 15:33 |
| ralonsoh | ok, no more RFEs | 15:33 |
| ralonsoh | let's go to bugs | 15:33 |
| ralonsoh | #topic Bugs | 15:33 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: neutron_qos)" | 15:33 | |
| ralonsoh | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1784006 | 15:33 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1784006 in neutron "Instances miss neutron QoS on their ports after unrescue and soft reboot" [Medium,Confirmed] - Assigned to Miguel Lavalle (minsel) | 15:33 |
| mlavalle | ralonsoh: but I think you are on to something. If we can put something in from of all the tenant resources, we limit the bandwidth in that something | 15:34 |
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| ralonsoh | we need to be cautious on having a bottle neck, adding something like a unique pipe for all the traffic | 15:35 |
| ralonsoh | anyway | 15:35 |
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| ralonsoh | mlavalle, #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1784006 | 15:35 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1784006 in neutron "Instances miss neutron QoS on their ports after unrescue and soft reboot" [Medium,Confirmed] - Assigned to Miguel Lavalle (minsel) | 15:35 |
| ralonsoh | any update? | 15:35 |
| mlavalle | no, didn't have time to work on it | 15:36 |
| mlavalle | if anyone has bandwidth, feel free to take it. otherwiese, I'll get to it later | 15:36 |
| ralonsoh | I don't have now | 15:36 |
| ralonsoh | sorry | 15:37 |
| mlavalle | np | 15:37 |
| mlavalle | I'm glad to be on the hook | 15:37 |
| mlavalle | just don't want to hoard bugs | 15:37 |
| ralonsoh | we have too much backlog sometimes... | 15:38 |
| ralonsoh | ok, we have the last one | 15:38 |
| ralonsoh | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1785189 | 15:38 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1785189 in neutron "Floatingip and router bandwidth speed limit failure" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Brian Haley (brian-haley) | 15:38 |
| ralonsoh | still no answer to liuyulong questions | 15:39 |
| ralonsoh | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/596637/ | 15:39 |
| ralonsoh | IMO, the solution is ok | 15:39 |
| ralonsoh | but questions marked by liuyulong are fair | 15:39 |
| mlavalle | yeah | 15:40 |
| ralonsoh | and we should have this information to validate this solution | 15:40 |
| mlavalle | I'll ping Brian | 15:40 |
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| ralonsoh | I think we should reproduce this environment to test liuyulong questions | 15:41 |
| ralonsoh | anyway, I'll try to reach Brian too | 15:41 |
| mlavalle | ok | 15:42 |
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| ralonsoh | does anyone have any other bug not listed? | 15:42 |
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| ralonsoh | ok, other opens | 15:43 |
| ralonsoh | #topic Open Discussion | 15:43 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: neutron_qos)" | 15:43 | |
| mlavalle | none from me | 15:44 |
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| ralonsoh | ok, we can finish the meeting today | 15:44 |
| ralonsoh | (do you remember the command to close the meeting?) | 15:45 |
| ralonsoh | (I'm still learning) | 15:45 |
| mlavalle | #endmeeting | 15:45 |
| ralonsoh | hehehhe | 15:45 |
| ralonsoh | perfect | 15:45 |
| ralonsoh | thank you all! | 15:45 |
| slaweq | o/ | 15:45 |
| mlavalle | o/ | 15:45 |
| njohnston | good job ralonsoh :-) | 15:45 |
| rubasov | thank you guys | 15:45 |
| ralonsoh | #endmeeting | 15:45 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 15:45 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Nov 20 15:45:57 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:45 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_qos/2018/neutron_qos.2018-11-20-15.00.html | 15:46 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_qos/2018/neutron_qos.2018-11-20-15.00.txt | 15:46 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_qos/2018/neutron_qos.2018-11-20-15.00.log.html | 15:46 |
| ralonsoh | see you all | 15:46 |
| rubasov | bye | 15:46 |
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| slaweq | #startmeeting neutron_ci | 16:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Nov 20 16:01:48 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is slaweq. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
| slaweq | hello | 16:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_ci)" | 16:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_ci' | 16:01 |
| njohnston | o/ | 16:01 |
| mlavalle | o/ | 16:01 |
| slaweq | lets start last of today's meetings then :) | 16:02 |
| slaweq | #topic Actions from previous meetings | 16:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Actions from previous meetings (Meeting topic: neutron_ci)" | 16:02 | |
| slaweq | mlavalle/slaweq to continue debugging issue with not reachable FIP in scenario jobs | 16:02 |
| mlavalle | I continued doing that | 16:02 |
| mlavalle | since I came back from berlin | 16:03 |
| mlavalle | and before leaving as well | 16:03 |
| slaweq | I didn't have time to look at this one, but I found some issue related to https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1717302 | 16:03 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1717302 in neutron "Tempest floatingip scenario tests failing on DVR Multinode setup with HA" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq) | 16:03 |
| slaweq | and it maybe can help with this one too | 16:03 |
| mlavalle | I've been comparing a "good run" with "bad run" | 16:03 |
| slaweq | I sent some patch already: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/618750/ | 16:03 |
| slaweq | this my patch can help with dvr jobs only | 16:04 |
| slaweq | I saw issues like that in quite many test runs, e.g. in http://logs.openstack.org/24/618024/5/check/neutron-tempest-dvr-ha-multinode-full/d27f183/logs/ | 16:05 |
| mlavalle | is this going to address also https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1795870? | 16:05 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1795870 in neutron "Trunk scenario test test_trunk_subport_lifecycle fails from time to time" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Miguel Lavalle (minsel) | 16:05 |
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| slaweq | if You had in l3-agent logs something like: http://logs.openstack.org/24/618024/5/check/neutron-tempest-dvr-ha-multinode-full/d27f183/logs/subnode-2/screen-q-l3.txt.gz?level=ERROR then it should help | 16:06 |
| slaweq | if not, then it's different issue probably | 16:07 |
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| mlavalle | well | 16:07 |
| mlavalle | I was thinking of a different aproach | 16:07 |
| mlavalle | we recently merged https://review.openstack.org/#/c/609924/ | 16:08 |
| mlavalle | this fixes a situation where the fip is associated to a port before the port is found | 16:09 |
| mlavalle | as a consequence, the fip is create in the snat node, right? | 16:09 |
| slaweq | yep | 16:09 |
| mlavalle | now, when the port is bound, the patch fixes the migration of the fip / port to the corresponding node | 16:10 |
| mlavalle | a compute presumably | 16:10 |
| mlavalle | right? | 16:10 |
| slaweq | yep | 16:10 |
| mlavalle | now, let's look at the code of test_trunk_subport_lifecycle: | 16:10 |
| mlavalle | https://github.com/openstack/neutron-tempest-plugin/blob/master/neutron_tempest_plugin/scenario/test_trunk.py#L67 | 16:11 |
| mlavalle | it creates the port and associates it to a fip | 16:11 |
| mlavalle | so in a dvr env, that fip is going to the snat node | 16:11 |
| slaweq | yes | 16:12 |
| mlavalle | and then the server is created in L76 | 16:12 |
| mlavalle | so the migration starts | 16:12 |
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| mlavalle | it is possible that the bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1795870 | 16:12 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1795870 in neutron "Trunk scenario test test_trunk_subport_lifecycle fails from time to time" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Miguel Lavalle (minsel) | 16:12 |
| mlavalle | is a consequence of the fip not being ready in the compute, because it is migrating | 16:13 |
| mlavalle | it is a race that is not fixed by https://review.openstack.org/#/c/609924/ | 16:13 |
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| mlavalle | right? | 16:13 |
| slaweq | it can be something like that | 16:14 |
| slaweq | maybe this FIP is configured in both snat and fip- namespaces then? | 16:14 |
| mlavalle | noiw the trunk test bug happens 95% of the time with DVR | 16:14 |
| slaweq | as in our gates all nodes are dvr_snat nodes | 16:15 |
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| mlavalle | so I intend to change the test script | 16:15 |
| mlavalle | to create and associate the fip after the server | 16:15 |
| mlavalle | and see what happens | 16:15 |
| mlavalle | makes sense? | 16:16 |
| slaweq | yes, totally :) | 16:16 |
| mlavalle | so I propose the following: | 16:16 |
| mlavalle | 1) let's merge your patch first and see the effect on the trunk bug | 16:16 |
| mlavalle | 2) Then let's change the trunk test script and see the effect | 16:17 |
| mlavalle | this way we learn what fix is having an efect or not | 16:17 |
| slaweq | ok, I will address comments on my patch today (or tomorrow morning) | 16:17 |
| mlavalle | and the other think that I propose is let's track the trunk test failure independently of the bug you are fixing | 16:18 |
| mlavalle | because in the case of the trunk stuff, it might be something else | 16:18 |
| slaweq | one more question, if it's like You are described it, is it still happens so often, or maybe it's now fixed by https://review.openstack.org/#/c/609924/11 ? | 16:18 |
| mlavalle | I mean the problem might be in the trunks code for example | 16:18 |
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| mlavalle | it's still happening after merging that patch | 16:19 |
| mlavalle | I saw it yesterday | 16:19 |
| slaweq | sure, I just raised this patch here as I saw issues like that in many tests different tests (trunk also) - only common thing was not reachable FIP | 16:19 |
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| slaweq | ok, so lets do it as You described and we will see how it will be | 16:20 |
| mlavalle | I am just trying to be disciplined and merge fixes orderly, to learn what fixes what | 16:20 |
| mlavalle | makes sense? | 16:20 |
| slaweq | #action mlavalle to continue tracking not reachable FIP in trunk tests | 16:20 |
| slaweq | sure, makes sense for me :) | 16:20 |
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| slaweq | I think we can go on to the next one then, right? | 16:21 |
| mlavalle | yeap | 16:21 |
| mlavalle | thanks for listening :-) | 16:21 |
| slaweq | ok, so the next one is: | 16:21 |
| slaweq | njohnston rename existing neutron-functional job to neutron-functional-python27 and switch neutron-functional to be py3 | 16:21 |
| slaweq | njohnston: any updates? | 16:22 |
| njohnston | bcafarel already had that underway before we had talked about it: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/577383/ | 16:22 |
| njohnston | It is still showing the same issue with subunit.parser that I have been stumped by: http://logs.openstack.org/83/577383/12/check/neutron-functional/e02bd4f/job-output.txt.gz#_2018-11-13_14_10_04_212536 | 16:23 |
| slaweq | bcafarel: are You around? Do You need help with this one? | 16:23 |
| njohnston | but if I or anyone else has a eureka moment and figures out what in the functional test harness is not py3 ready, then the change is ready to go | 16:23 |
| bcafarel | o/ | 16:24 |
| njohnston | bcafarel and I have talked about it, when last we chatted he also had not had luck finding the py3 string handling incompatibility that is causing the error | 16:24 |
| bcafarel | yeah basically what njohnston said | 16:24 |
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| slaweq | ok, I will try to take a look this week on it if I will have few minutes | 16:24 |
| bcafarel | I will try to catch this issue again, but will not mind at all if someone solves it in the meantime :) | 16:24 |
| slaweq | ok, let's move forward then | 16:25 |
| slaweq | njohnston make py3 etherpad | 16:25 |
| slaweq | I guess it's https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron_ci_python3, right? | 16:25 |
| njohnston | As mentioned in the neutron team meeting, that is up | 16:25 |
| njohnston | yep | 16:25 |
| njohnston | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron_ci_python3 | 16:25 |
| slaweq | thx njohnston :) | 16:25 |
| slaweq | I will go through it and will start doing some patches with conversion to py3 as I have some experience with it already | 16:26 |
| njohnston | I need to flesh out the experimental jobs a bit | 16:27 |
| njohnston | but I figure it will be a while before we get tot hose anyway | 16:27 |
| njohnston | * to those | 16:27 |
| slaweq | I think that we should revisit which experimental jobs we still need :) | 16:28 |
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| njohnston | yes, many of the legacy ones may be able to be removed, like legacy-tempest-dsvm-neutron-dvr-multinode-full | 16:29 |
| slaweq | yes, I will take a look at them too | 16:29 |
| slaweq | #action slaweq to check which experimental jobs can be removed | 16:29 |
| njohnston | since that is covered already by neutron-tempest-dvr-ha-multinode-full in check and gate queues | 16:29 |
| slaweq | #action slaweq to start migrating neutron CI jobs to zuul v3 syntax | 16:29 |
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| njohnston | Much appreciated slaweq, my attempts at zuul v3 conversions have taught me humility | 16:30 |
| mlavalle | LOL | 16:30 |
| slaweq | :) | 16:30 |
| slaweq | I spent some time on converting neutron-tempest-plugin jobs to it so I understand You :) | 16:31 |
| slaweq | ok, lets move to the next one then | 16:31 |
| slaweq | njohnston check if grenade is ready for py3 | 16:31 |
| njohnston | Looks like Grenade has py3 supported and has a zuul job defined for py3 by mriedem https://github.com/openstack-dev/grenade/commit/7bae489f38f8f0c82c8eb284d1841ef68d8e9a43 | 16:31 |
| mriedem | \o/ | 16:32 |
| slaweq | so we should just switch to use this one instead of what we are using now, right? | 16:32 |
| njohnston | yes | 16:33 |
| mriedem | still need https://review.openstack.org/#/c/617662/ | 16:33 |
| mriedem | but maybe unrelated to what you care about | 16:33 |
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| njohnston | No, I think that is excellent | 16:35 |
| njohnston | I think we probably make use of that template | 16:35 |
| njohnston | So we can either base our jobs off of that zuul template or just use it outright | 16:35 |
| slaweq | I'm now comparing our definition of neutron-grenade job with grenade-py3 job | 16:36 |
| slaweq | I see only one difference, in grenade-py3 there is no openstack/neutron in required projects | 16:37 |
| slaweq | will we have to add it if we will use this job, or it's not necessary? | 16:37 |
| mriedem | i believe that comes from legacy-dsvm-base | 16:37 |
| mriedem | http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/openstack-zuul-jobs/tree/zuul.d/jobs.yaml#n915 | 16:37 |
| mriedem | but i'm never really sure how that all works | 16:37 |
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| slaweq | ahh, so we don't need to define it in our template | 16:38 |
| mriedem | i do'nt think it's needed, | 16:38 |
| mriedem | grenade-py3 is stein only, | 16:38 |
| mriedem | and devstack has defaulted to neutron since i think newton | 16:38 |
| slaweq | thx mriedem | 16:38 |
| slaweq | so IMO we could switch to use this template in neutron's .zuul.yaml file | 16:39 |
| slaweq | njohnston: will You do it then? | 16:39 |
| njohnston | definitely | 16:39 |
| slaweq | thx | 16:39 |
| mriedem | correct, neutron is the default since ocata, but doesn't matter for this anyway https://github.com/openstack-infra/devstack-gate/blob/master/devstack-vm-gate-wrap.sh#L201 | 16:40 |
| mriedem | *correction | 16:40 |
| slaweq | #action njohnston to switch neutron to use integrated-gate-py35 with grenade-py3 job instead of our neutron-grenade job | 16:40 |
| slaweq | thx mriedem, that sounds very good for us :) | 16:40 |
| slaweq | ok, so lets move on to the next one then | 16:41 |
| slaweq | slaweq to check Fullstack tests fails because process is not killed properly (bug 1798472) | 16:41 |
| openstack | bug 1798472 in neutron "Fullstack tests fails because process is not killed properly" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1798472 - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq) | 16:41 |
| slaweq | I was checking that one | 16:41 |
| slaweq | and what I found is, that in some cases openvswitch-agent or sometimes neutron-server are not responding for SIGTERM at all | 16:42 |
| slaweq | and then tests are failing in cleanup phase as process is not stopped properly and timeout is raised | 16:42 |
| njohnston | oh interesting | 16:42 |
| mlavalle | didn't we approve a patch for that yesterday? | 16:42 |
| slaweq | I did patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/618024/ which should at least workaround it in tests | 16:42 |
| slaweq | mlavalle: yes :) | 16:42 |
| slaweq | I just wanted to do introduction for everyone ;) | 16:42 |
| mlavalle | cool | 16:43 |
| slaweq | for now it failed with some not related errors so I rechecked it | 16:43 |
| slaweq | it should help with such issues in fullstack tests | 16:43 |
| slaweq | ok, next one | 16:43 |
| slaweq | mlavalle to check bug 1798475 | 16:44 |
| openstack | bug 1798475 in neutron "Fullstack test test_ha_router_restart_agents_no_packet_lost failing" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1798475 | 16:44 |
| mlavalle | no time to check this one | 16:44 |
| slaweq | do You plan to check that this week maybe? | 16:44 |
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| mlavalle | no, I don't thinbk I'll time this week | 16:45 |
| mlavalle | Thursday and Friday are holidays | 16:45 |
| slaweq | ok, I will assign it to me but I will check it only if I will have some time for it | 16:45 |
| slaweq | #action slaweq to check bug 1798475 | 16:45 |
| openstack | bug 1798475 in neutron "Fullstack test test_ha_router_restart_agents_no_packet_lost failing" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1798475 | 16:45 |
| slaweq | and the last one was: | 16:46 |
| mlavalle | Great, thanks! | 16:46 |
| slaweq | slaweq to check why db_migration functional tests don't have logs | 16:46 |
| slaweq | yw mlavalle :) | 16:46 |
| slaweq | for this last one I didn't have time | 16:46 |
| slaweq | so I will assign it to me for next week too | 16:46 |
| slaweq | #action slaweq to check why db_migration functional tests don't have logs | 16:46 |
| slaweq | ok, that were all actions from previous week | 16:46 |
| slaweq | do You want to add anything? | 16:47 |
| mlavalle | not from me | 16:47 |
| slaweq | ok, lets move on then | 16:47 |
| slaweq | #topic Python 3 | 16:47 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Python 3 (Meeting topic: neutron_ci)" | 16:47 | |
| slaweq | I think we discussed most things already :) | 16:48 |
| njohnston | indeed :-) | 16:48 |
| slaweq | I just wanted to mention that fullstack tests are now running on py3 only: | 16:48 |
| slaweq | #topic Python 3 | 16:48 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Python 3 (Meeting topic: neutron_ci)" | 16:48 | |
| slaweq | #undo | 16:48 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: #topic Python 3 | 16:48 |
| slaweq | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/604749/ | 16:48 |
| slaweq | so we don't have neutron-fullstack-python36 anymore | 16:49 |
| slaweq | :) | 16:49 |
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| slaweq | thx bcafarel and njohnston for that one | 16:49 |
| njohnston | Did someone already submit a change to remove that from the grafana dashboard, or shall I do it? | 16:49 |
| slaweq | no, I think there is no such patch yet | 16:50 |
| slaweq | would be good if You will do it :) | 16:50 |
| slaweq | thx for remember about that | 16:50 |
| slaweq | #action njohnston to remove neutron-fullstack-python36 from grafana dashboard | 16:50 |
| njohnston | Will do, and I'll prep a second one one to match up with the change in functional tests with a proper depends-on | 16:50 |
| slaweq | thx njohnston | 16:50 |
| slaweq | ok, so speaking about grafana | 16:51 |
| slaweq | #topic Grafana | 16:51 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Grafana (Meeting topic: neutron_ci)" | 16:51 | |
| slaweq | #link http://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/neutron-failure-rate | 16:51 |
| slaweq | there were quite big failure rates during the weekend on charts but there was not many jobs running then so I don't think we should focus on those | 16:53 |
| slaweq | except that, I think that most things are similar like it was two weeks ago | 16:53 |
| slaweq | one thing which I want to rais is failing neutron-tempest-postgres-full periodic job | 16:54 |
| slaweq | we should check that one | 16:54 |
| mlavalle | ok | 16:54 |
| slaweq | looks like some nova issue, e.g.: http://logs.openstack.org/periodic/git.openstack.org/openstack/neutron/master/neutron-tempest-postgres-full/a52bcf9/job-output.txt.gz#_2018-11-18_06_59_45_183264 | 16:56 |
| slaweq | and nova logs: http://logs.openstack.org/periodic/git.openstack.org/openstack/neutron/master/neutron-tempest-postgres-full/a52bcf9/logs/screen-n-api.txt.gz?level=ERROR | 16:56 |
| slaweq | mriedem: does it ring a bell for You ^^ ? | 16:56 |
| mriedem | yes, | 16:57 |
| mriedem | but should be fixed | 16:57 |
| mriedem | oh nvm this is something else | 16:58 |
| slaweq | last such issue is from today, http://logs.openstack.org/periodic/git.openstack.org/openstack/neutron/master/neutron-tempest-postgres-full/1de7427/logs/screen-n-api.txt.gz?level=ERROR | 16:58 |
| mriedem | https://github.com/openstack/nova/commit/77881659251bdff52163ba1572e13a105eadaf7f | 16:58 |
| mriedem | ok so the pg jobs are broken | 16:59 |
| mriedem | has anyone reported a bug? | 16:59 |
| slaweq | not me, I just noticed that in periodic job | 16:59 |
| slaweq | I will report a bug aftet this meeting | 16:59 |
| mriedem | thanks | 17:00 |
| slaweq | (which is just over) :) | 17:00 |
| slaweq | ok, thx for attending | 17:00 |
| slaweq | #endmeeting | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Nov 20 17:00:16 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ci/2018/neutron_ci.2018-11-20-16.01.html | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ci/2018/neutron_ci.2018-11-20-16.01.txt | 17:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ci/2018/neutron_ci.2018-11-20-16.01.log.html | 17:00 |
| slaweq | and thx mriedem for Your help | 17:00 |
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| mriedem | yw | 17:01 |
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| clarkb | Infra meeting will be starting in just a minute or two | 18:59 |
| clarkb | Anyone here for the meeting? | 19:00 |
| * fungi wonders how many others are still hungover | 19:00 | |
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| clarkb | I didnt' feel too bad yesterday but then I was awake at 2am this morning and well today hasn't gone as well | 19:01 |
| clarkb | #startmeeting infra | 19:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Nov 20 19:01:18 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is clarkb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'infra' | 19:01 |
| gary_perkins | o/ is here for the meeting :) | 19:01 |
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| clarkb | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/InfraTeamMeeting#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 19:02 |
| clarkb | #topic Announcements | 19:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:02 | |
| fungi | i missed adding a reminder about the largeish ml merge i enacted yesterday | 19:03 |
| clarkb | This week is a big holiday week in the USA. This means in addition to jet lag lag you'll likely find that many of us in this country will be ignoring our computers later this week | 19:03 |
| frickler | o/ | 19:03 |
| rfolco | o/ | 19:03 |
| ssbarnea|bkp2 | o/ | 19:03 |
| clarkb | fungi: that seems like it is worth a reminder here though | 19:03 |
| fungi | note: i'm not ignoring my computer, i'm just ignoring people i don't like (kidding!) | 19:03 |
| clarkb | fungi did the openstack-dev/etc into openstack-discuss switch as discussed for a few months since the PTG | 19:03 |
| clarkb | if you haven't joined the -discuss list now is an excellent time to do so | 19:04 |
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| fungi | we're almost at 350 subscribers now | 19:04 |
| AJaeger | o/ | 19:04 |
| clarkb | I'm personally intending to try and be around today and tomorrow with various errands interspersed in today (to convince my body that it shouldn't fall asleep at 5pm). But then I'm afk Thursday to Monday | 19:04 |
| fungi | i'll be offline some of my usual thursday to meet friends for chow | 19:05 |
| fungi | otherwise i should mostly be around | 19:05 |
| * AJaeger is not celebrating Thanksgiving but travelling all of next week... | 19:05 | |
| anteaya | happy thanks chow | 19:05 |
| fungi | as much as i ever am the week after a summit anyway | 19:05 |
| clarkb | #topic Actions from last meeting | 19:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Actions from last meeting (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:06 | |
| clarkb | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2018/infra.2018-11-06-19.01.txt minutes from last meeting | 19:06 |
| clarkb | No explicit actions called out and considering we have a lot ot talk about post summit I'm inclined to push forward | 19:06 |
| clarkb | #topic Priority Efforts | 19:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Priority Efforts (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:06 | |
| clarkb | #topic Update Config Management | 19:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Update Config Management (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:07 | |
| clarkb | I believe the changes that ianw wanted to get in to make dockering possible have happened | 19:07 |
| clarkb | other than that I'm not sure we've made much progress on this effort since we last met since summit and associated demands were happening | 19:07 |
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| ianw | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/605585/ is ready for review, that installs docker on control plane | 19:08 |
| corvus | sorry i'm late | 19:08 |
| clarkb | mordred: ianw Mathias Gutehall mentioned on the infra mailing list that there was interest in helping with the dockering. I've suggested that you two may be the best points of contact for that | 19:08 |
| clarkb | I'm happy to help there as I can but most likely as a reviewer | 19:08 |
| ianw | yes, we've had a brief chat. i think the next thing to do is to get a hello-world type thing working ontop of 605585 | 19:08 |
| clarkb | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/605585/ install docker on the control plane (ready for review) | 19:08 |
| ianw | then get an ipv6 hello-world working too ... this will i think be harder, but required for anything we deploy | 19:09 |
| corvus | ianw: awesome! | 19:09 |
| clarkb | ah I know this change. I'll rereview it before I take off for errands | 19:09 |
| ianw | clarkb: it's a unix system, i know this! | 19:10 |
| clarkb | exactly | 19:10 |
| clarkb | velociraptors don't stand a chance | 19:10 |
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| corvus | why don't the iptables tests work? | 19:11 |
| clarkb | corvus: I had to update the iptables tests to accomodate the stuff docker adds | 19:11 |
| corvus | like -- i get that dockers doing other weird stuff, but shouldn't the rules we check for still be there? | 19:11 |
| clarkb | corvus: yup they are still there, but the order changes (docker prepends iirc) | 19:11 |
| clarkb | oh latest patchset removed the test | 19:12 |
| corvus | gotcha... maybe we could reduce the scope of the iptables test then, so we're still at least checking that, say, snmp is open | 19:12 |
| clarkb | ianw: I had updated it so that the existing test would work with docker I thought. But doing somethign like ^ is probably good enough too | 19:12 |
| fungi | granted if the block rule came first and we weren't checking at least some ordering, that could be problematic | 19:12 |
| clarkb | I don't think docker adds any block rules | 19:13 |
| clarkb | in any case we should be able to test the iptables + docker and iptables + !docker case | 19:13 |
| corvus | fungi: yeah, we could assert that snmp is open and our block rule is after that | 19:13 |
| clarkb | Are there other config mgmt update changes or items we'd like to talk about before moving on? | 19:14 |
| ianw | ok, make review comments and i'll look at it :) | 19:14 |
| corvus | clarkb: yep, and i think testing is worthwhile to prevent a regression; seems easy to do here | 19:14 |
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| corvus | ianw: done :) | 19:15 |
| clarkb | #topic Storyboard | 19:15 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Storyboard (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:15 | |
| fungi | we yakked about some storyboard stuff at the forum last week | 19:16 |
| clarkb | There was a good storyboard migration blockers session in Berlin. Seemed like it mostly boiled down to improving performance and error handling as well as some specific needs by various projects | 19:16 |
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| clarkb | the other item that came up was easy mode file a bug tooling | 19:16 |
| clarkb | as is the current story creation process is quite involved and makes more sense on the backend for a developer planning work | 19:16 |
| fungi | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BER-Contrib-Portal-Feedback | 19:16 |
| clarkb | I don't think there were any real surprises though which is good | 19:17 |
| corvus | why is that called 'contrib portal'? | 19:17 |
| fungi | i think it must have gotten repurposed from a contributor portal session | 19:18 |
| fungi | i wondered that myself | 19:18 |
| corvus | ok. it's not relevant, that's the main thing to know i guess. :) | 19:18 |
| corvus | (i thought i mispercieved what was happening) | 19:18 |
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| fungi | there's also a BER-Contrib-Portal pad which i think was for that | 19:19 |
| fungi | guessing it was a cut-n-paste error and we were all too jetlagged on tuesday to notice | 19:19 |
| clarkb | fungi: diablo_rojo_phon anything else worth calling out from that session? | 19:20 |
| clarkb | Looks like we had pretty decent note taking :) | 19:20 |
| fungi | not that i'm aware of | 19:20 |
| clarkb | Moving on then | 19:20 |
| clarkb | #topic General Topics | 19:20 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "General Topics (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:20 | |
| clarkb | I'll start with a quick summit recap. One of the sessions was on dealing with timezones and language barriers and a suggestion that came out of that was leaning on meeting agendas more explicitly and only having meetings if we have an agenda | 19:21 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | I definitely messed up the Etherpads and rather than lose the edit history just kept the confusing name. | 19:21 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Just got into SeaTac :) | 19:22 |
| clarkb | the goal here is to allow people in less convenient timezones for the meeting to sleep/have dinner/etc if the meeting doesn't need to happen or doesn't have an agenda that affects them | 19:22 |
| fungi | thanks for the deets diablo_rojo_phon! | 19:22 |
| clarkb | Also gives people a chance to prepare their thoughts on topics | 19:22 |
| anteaya | clarkb: was the timezones and language barriers aimed at infra? or was it openstack wide? | 19:22 |
| clarkb | I've proposed to the infra mailing list that we require agenda updates 24 hours before the start of the infra meeting and if there is no update at that time then cancel the meeting | 19:22 |
| clarkb | anteaya: was openstack wide | 19:22 |
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| clarkb | do we think this proposal is worthwhile? so far the reception on the mailing list has been positive | 19:23 |
| frickler | I think it's a good proposal | 19:23 |
| AJaeger | +1 | 19:23 |
| anteaya | I'd like to add that we have at least one meeting every four weeks | 19:23 |
| clarkb | I'm happy to do my best to send notes to the mailing list signalling if (or not) we will have a meeting around 1900UTC monday | 19:23 |
| gary_perkins | I'm in the UK, so +1 | 19:23 |
| anteaya | so if we have an agenda lull we at least have a cadence for some sort of meeting | 19:23 |
| clarkb | anteaya: can probably do that informally with a catch up agenda item if we otherwise wouldn't meet | 19:24 |
| fungi | i'm just not a fan of holding meetings we don't need, so also in favor ;) | 19:24 |
| clarkb | anteaya: I expect we'll end up having meetings closer to every other week | 19:24 |
| corvus | clarkb: ++ plan; ++ anteaya's idea | 19:24 |
| clarkb | we can also tweak it as we go | 19:24 |
| anteaya | sure, I'd just like something in the proposal, so that in years to come it is written down | 19:25 |
| anteaya | and thanks | 19:25 |
| corvus | i think in practice, it'll be at least every other week. we often have something to talk about here :) | 19:25 |
| fungi | usually someone at least adds something to the agenda, yes | 19:25 |
| fungi | i wouldn't be surprised if we still hold it most weeks | 19:26 |
| anteaya | oh I agree, I don't think we will only meet once per month | 19:26 |
| anteaya | I just like a backstop | 19:26 |
| clarkb | ok how about this for an ammended proposal " THe infra team requires an updated meeting agenda 24 hours prior to the meeting time otherwise the meeting will be cancelled. If we don't have a meeting for 4 weeks we should have a catch up agenda item added by the chair" | 19:26 |
| fungi | but we'll need to be more diligent about adding things to the agenda sooner | 19:26 |
| anteaya | clarkb: +1 | 19:26 |
| fungi | that wfm. also not necessary to spell out in the agenda but if you have an agenda item to add in the final 24 hours it probably goes on the backlog for the next week's agenda | 19:26 |
| anteaya | yes, this is where I miss pleia2 | 19:26 |
| anteaya | she was very attentive to meeting things | 19:27 |
| fungi | i miss pleia2 for many, many reasons. she's still lurking in here though! | 19:27 |
| clarkb | We can start with that process next week then. I'll do my best monday morning to check in on agenda and send email as necessary from the beach house | 19:27 |
| ianw | i'm not about this cancelling but I'll respond on list, seems a better place to discuss it | 19:27 |
| anteaya | yes, not the only thing I miss her for | 19:27 |
| * corvus waves at pleia2 | 19:27 | |
| clarkb | ianw: ya I'll follow up there to | 19:27 |
| clarkb | the other summit session that impacts us is the opendev feedback session. | 19:28 |
| corvus | ianw: was that last missing a word? | 19:28 |
| anteaya | clarkb: beach house has a lovely ring to it | 19:28 |
| clarkb | If I had to sum that one up the tl;dr would be communicate communicate communicate | 19:28 |
| fungi | good thing that session was also a means of communicating! | 19:28 |
| clarkb | There didn't seem to be any major sky is falling concerns but there was the ask that we keep bodies like the TC informed of planning. I think we've managed to communicate well so far, we just have to keep at it | 19:29 |
| anteaya | I will say again I hope the team will continue to be available in the openstack-infra channel | 19:29 |
| fungi | i don't think we intend to cease having an irc channel | 19:30 |
| clarkb | anteaya: yup I don't expect we'll move soon and if/when we do move we can set things up with freenode to redirect people to the correct location | 19:30 |
| anteaya | I hope it has infra in the name of the channel if the openstack is dropped | 19:30 |
| anteaya | and thank you | 19:30 |
| clarkb | our attentiveness and willingness to help was called out. People don't want that to go away and I don't expect it to | 19:31 |
| clarkb | the TC is particularly interested in any plans for reorganizing git repos in gerrit | 19:31 |
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| anteaya | when you say called out do you mean some find it lacking currently? | 19:31 |
| clarkb | anteaya: no they found it helpful today and don't want that to change | 19:31 |
| anteaya | ah, maintainance of status quo | 19:32 |
| clarkb | (I don't think we intend for that to change) | 19:32 |
| * fungi doesn't intend to try to change it | 19:32 | |
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| anteaya | yeah, I didn't think so | 19:32 |
| anteaya | called out has many meanings for me, I guess | 19:32 |
| fungi | except finding ways to get even better at it, if possible | 19:32 |
| anteaya | I'm not a fan of cloning | 19:32 |
| clarkb | I'm trying to think if there were any other sessions that have a direct impact on the infra team | 19:33 |
| clarkb | any other summit recap related items others want to bring up? or questions from those that weren't able to attend? | 19:34 |
| fungi | the summit feedback session sort of impacts us, insofar as one of our infra-root sysadmins should see if we can figure out how to roll back an edit to the pad for it | 19:34 |
| anteaya | I hope you got to a beirgarten? | 19:34 |
| fungi | someone autotranslated the first half the pad into japanese after the session ended | 19:34 |
| clarkb | fungi: if the pad isn't broken corrupt I think we can rell back to an older version with the api | 19:34 |
| fungi | yep, i was just digging up the api docs | 19:35 |
| clarkb | *roll | 19:35 |
| clarkb | ssbarnea|bkp2: corvus: re gertty is that still something we need/want to discuss in this meeting? or did that get sorted out? | 19:35 |
| ssbarnea|bkp2 | sorted. | 19:36 |
| clarkb | alright the next agenda item is having an infra topic for the new -discuss list | 19:36 |
| clarkb | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/common-openstack-ml-topics openstack-discuss topics listing | 19:36 |
| clarkb | corvus: ^ I think you added this | 19:36 |
| corvus | yep. i don't have a position to advocate, mostly wanted to see if folks thought we should | 19:37 |
| corvus | or how we should use the new list to communicate to folks about infra changes | 19:37 |
| anteaya | I think we should | 19:37 |
| fungi | seems like a fine addition. [infra] works for that case | 19:37 |
| frickler | isn't "infra" a team name already like "qa"? | 19:37 |
| clarkb | yes, I think it will be helpful since the alternative is likely to be filtered into the bitbucket | 19:37 |
| clarkb | and then people will miss our updates | 19:37 |
| corvus | [infra] for "hey should we tweak a thing?" and [infra][all] for "gerrit is being upgraded" ? | 19:38 |
| fungi | frickler: future status as an openstack team is probably up in the air | 19:38 |
| clarkb | frickler: it is technically "infrastructure" I think | 19:38 |
| clarkb | corvus: ++ | 19:38 |
| fungi | corvus: i like | 19:38 |
| corvus | of course "all" is now more than just "all developers" it's "all people interested in openstack" | 19:38 |
| fungi | adding [all] in the case of announcements basically | 19:38 |
| corvus | hrm. maybe we should refrain from [all] except in the most highly impactful cases, and use [infra][dev] for "gerrit is being upgraded"? | 19:39 |
| fungi | there are plenty of people in the community who don't engage in software development but probably still care about bits of the community infrastructure | 19:39 |
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| anteaya | I'm a fan of using [all] judiciously | 19:39 |
| corvus | fungi: indeed; i certainly think it's widely applicable, but i don't have a read on how much. | 19:40 |
| fungi | not sure any of us do yet | 19:40 |
| fungi | we're all still figuring this out | 19:40 |
| clarkb | corvus: I still feel like gerrit upgrades are an [all]? simply due to the large impact it is | 19:40 |
| clarkb | *impact it has | 19:40 |
| clarkb | and maybe we scale that back if we get asked to? | 19:40 |
| fungi | openstack-discuss [all] is still not on the same level as posting to openstack-announce at least | 19:40 |
| anteaya | I'd go the other way | 19:40 |
| corvus | i can buy the argument for [all] | 19:41 |
| anteaya | use [infra][dev] to start and go to all if the feedback requests | 19:41 |
| clarkb | as fungi points out we are all learning and probably best thing is to try something and change if that doesn't work | 19:42 |
| anteaya | and put gerrti upgrade in the subject line | 19:42 |
| corvus | we can also add [all] to, say, an initial announcement of a major change (such as a gerrit upgrade) and drop down to [dev] for followup scheduling messages, etc | 19:42 |
| frickler | +1 to anteaya, folks will just unsubscribe instead of complaining about too many mails | 19:42 |
| clarkb | corvus: that might be a good compromise | 19:42 |
| fungi | yeah, all fine ideas in my opinion, we just need to be flexible (especially here at the beginning) until we work out a viable pattern | 19:42 |
| anteaya | yup | 19:42 |
| anteaya | just suggestions | 19:42 |
| corvus | we can ask for feedback after our first message: "did you enjoy receiving this message?" "do you wish you had received this message?" ;) | 19:43 |
| fungi | i don't really have enough of a feel yet for which will work better, so use [infra] and apply your best judgement in adding other tags? | 19:43 |
| anteaya | ha ha ha | 19:43 |
| clarkb | fungi: ++ | 19:43 |
| corvus | sounds good. i'm glad we thought a bit about it. | 19:44 |
| clarkb | we've also only got about ~16 minutes left and a couple important topics left so I think we should move on. I think we are all aware of how careful we should be using [all] and we can learn to see what works as we go | 19:44 |
| clarkb | Next on the list is an opendev update | 19:44 |
| clarkb | I believe we are waiting on dns registrar to be happy with dnssec? | 19:44 |
| corvus | yeah, jamesmcarthur has been very helpful in making requests to the registrar | 19:45 |
| corvus | apparently they are confused about our request to add dnskey records. we're trying to convince them that the data we sent are correct, or at least find out more info about why they think it isn't. | 19:45 |
| fungi | and i have to assume we haven't heard any more because he hasn't heard any more yet | 19:46 |
| clarkb | can (should) we set up the domain without dnssec to start? | 19:46 |
| corvus | the glue records are said to be in place now, however, i think making requests to them in this manner is a bit like talking to a jinn -- i don't think we actually asked them to change the ns records to *use* the glue records. | 19:46 |
| corvus | so i reckon we need to explicitly ask for that too :) | 19:46 |
| corvus | clarkb: technically, yes, but i have to say i'm really not interested in it. | 19:47 |
| corvus | i *really* want sshkey records | 19:47 |
| * fungi too | 19:47 | |
| fungi | i use them with my domains, very handy | 19:48 |
| clarkb | in that case I guess we wait for registrar to say more words about the problem? | 19:48 |
| clarkb | fungi and I may be able to followup with them and jimmy if necesary too (I think email is their primary form of communication) | 19:48 |
| clarkb | I'll check with jimmy if he thinks we can do anything else to help as well | 19:49 |
| clarkb | he has some experience with this group | 19:49 |
| fungi | very confused e-mail, if my previous experiences with them are representative | 19:49 |
| corvus | it'd be one thing if requests like this took a day or two, but the fact that it's taking *weeks* is, honestly, pretty unworkable. | 19:50 |
| jamesmcarthur | clarkb: I'm waiting to hear back from them after rebutting their last assertion that the DNSSEC key is wrong. | 19:50 |
| jamesmcarthur | And corvus: I agree 100%. | 19:50 |
| clarkb | jamesmcarthur: roger | 19:50 |
| fungi | thanks jamesmcarthur! | 19:50 |
| jamesmcarthur | It's top of our list to move off to a different registrar. | 19:50 |
| corvus | jamesmcarthur: yeah, i think we're on the same page on that :) | 19:50 |
| jamesmcarthur | Just one of those "we need some time" things | 19:50 |
| jamesmcarthur | These guys are absolutely useless. | 19:50 |
| clarkb | once dns is in place I expect we can start pushing snowballs downhill quickly | 19:51 |
| jamesmcarthur | lsell: and I have already been communicating about a plan to move to another registrar | 19:51 |
| clarkb | Anything else before that snowball is rolling? I'd like to get to ianw's topic before we run out of time | 19:51 |
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| fungi | we have a few snowballs already perched atop the avalanche | 19:51 |
| clarkb | Alright ianw would like to talk about cleaning up our pypi afs volume | 19:52 |
| clarkb | for those that maybe don't know we serve pypi via caching proxy now beacuse pypi itself has become quite large and is growing more quickly every day | 19:52 |
| clarkb | this has been mostly working | 19:52 |
| ianw | yes, our afs volume is basically full, the f29 updates are pushing it. removing the old pypi volume obviously frees up most of it | 19:53 |
| clarkb | and I'm not sure we'd be able to realistically go back to mirroring even if we wanted to. But if we did creating a new voluming and building up without packages that are huge and we don't want is possible | 19:53 |
| clarkb | I'm in favor of removing the pypi volume given that doing ^ is feasible if we need to go back to the old setup | 19:53 |
| fungi | also switching to a new enough version of bandersnatch to successfully clean up that mirror needs python from ubuntu bionic or later | 19:53 |
| ianw | yeah, the idea we could re-use the data is probably fantasy | 19:54 |
| ianw | what i would like to happen is people +2 on the removal of the docs etc with | 19:54 |
| ianw | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/618326/ | 19:54 |
| fungi | we certainly may want to switch back to bandersnatch at some point, but by the time we can do that we're better off just starting a fresh mirror from scratch anyway | 19:54 |
| ianw | and i'll take that as an indication to clean up | 19:54 |
| ianw | the f29 mirror is pushing it (but i'll ping in #infra about removing f27, which will relieve some of the pressure) | 19:55 |
| clarkb | done | 19:55 |
| ianw | that's all on that | 19:56 |
| AJaeger | thanks, ianw | 19:56 |
| corvus | a note on the commit message -- we can work around the 2tb limit by sharding. but i think the other issues are compelling and we should stick with proxy. | 19:56 |
| clarkb | corvus: ya the fact that the growth is only getting worse as time goes on makes it a treadmill that will continue to be hard to be on | 19:57 |
| fungi | yeah, we're not using it anyway, so the complexity of sharding that isn't worth the effort to maintain | 19:57 |
| ianw | corvus: true, but we'd have to sort of invent the sharding, an effort i'm not sure any of us want to go to | 19:57 |
| clarkb | We have just a couple minutes left | 19:58 |
| clarkb | #topic Open Discussion | 19:58 |
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| clarkb | Any last minute items before our hour is up? | 19:58 |
| corvus | it's not difficult; just do a volume for each directory under packages/ | 19:58 |
| corvus | (so ~256 volumes for the 00 -- ff directories) plus some more | 19:58 |
| corvus | i mostly mention this as a general pattern it's useful to keep in mind | 19:59 |
| corvus | afs can handle hundreds of thousands of volumes easily | 19:59 |
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| anteaya | thanks for the meeting clarkb | 19:59 |
| ssbarnea|bkp2 | considering the size (and number of changes) of pypi i suspect we are better off with a proxy than a mirror, but that's only my "gut feeling". | 19:59 |
| corvus | (this is the way home directories are set up at the big universities) | 19:59 |
| clarkb | the biggest issue is the pypi package size cost is concentrated in a few packages so we'd still need to ignore them in bandersnatch | 19:59 |
| anteaya | happy too much food and shopping those who do | 19:59 |
| corvus | clarkb: yes, and keep adding packages to the list as we see them | 20:00 |
| clarkb | ssbarnea|bkp2: yup mine too. Basically current system works and is low maintenance | 20:00 |
| clarkb | I think if we decide to go back to afs for pypi we'd be rebuiilding things anyway | 20:00 |
| clarkb | so its fine to move fowrard on ianw's plan for now | 20:00 |
| clarkb | and with that we are at time | 20:00 |
| clarkb | #endmeeting | 20:00 |
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| fungi | thanks clarkb! | 20:00 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Nov 20 20:00:42 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2018/infra.2018-11-20-19.01.html | 20:00 |
| clarkb | thank you everyone | 20:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2018/infra.2018-11-20-19.01.txt | 20:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2018/infra.2018-11-20-19.01.log.html | 20:00 |
| gary_perkins | thanks clarkb :) | 20:00 |
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