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| slaweq | #startmeeting neutron_drivers | 14:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Fri Nov 9 14:01:01 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is slaweq. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_drivers)" | 14:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_drivers' | 14:01 |
| yamamoto | hi | 14:01 |
| slaweq | hi | 14:01 |
| ralonsoh | hi | 14:01 |
| slaweq | mlavalle is not available today, so I will chair this meeting | 14:01 |
| slaweq | I have "orders" from him so should be good ;) | 14:01 |
| Chenjie | Hi guys, if possible I want to discuss the RFE https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1793653 | 14:02 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1793653 in neutron "[RFE] Enable other subprojects to extend l2pop fdb information" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to ChenjieXu (midone) | 14:02 |
| slaweq | lets wait for amotoki and haleyb | 14:02 |
| haleyb | hi | 14:02 |
| slaweq | Chenjie: it's on the list for today | 14:02 |
| slaweq | hi haleyb | 14:02 |
| Chenjie | slaweq: thanks! | 14:02 |
| slaweq | ok, I think we have quorum now so we can start | 14:03 |
| slaweq | #topic RFEs | 14:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "RFEs (Meeting topic: neutron_drivers)" | 14:03 | |
| slaweq | I have 3 RFEs for today | 14:03 |
| slaweq | first is: | 14:04 |
| slaweq | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1796925 | 14:04 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1796925 in neutron "[RFE] port forwarding floating IP QoS" [Wishlist,New] - Assigned to LIU Yulong (dragon889) | 14:04 |
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| slaweq | I think that reported of this RFE is not here today | 14:05 |
| slaweq | IIUC comment #2 in this RFE he wants to apply bandwidth limit to all port forwardings attached to FIP, yes? | 14:07 |
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| yamamoto | that's my understanding | 14:11 |
| slaweq | yes, we can already attach QoS policy to Floating IP, so that would be IMO only change on backend's side to apply such QoS to port forwarding also | 14:12 |
| slaweq | and if that is true, I'm ok with that change | 14:13 |
| slaweq | what do You think? | 14:13 |
| yamamoto | api-wise it's intended to use the existing qos_policy_id field? | 14:15 |
| slaweq | that's my assumption as we already have qos_policy_id in FIP | 14:15 |
| slaweq | do You think we should ask about clarification on that? | 14:16 |
| yamamoto | so right now qos_policy_id is not expected to affect port-forwarding traffic? | 14:17 |
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| slaweq | yes, I think so | 14:18 |
| slaweq | but I'm not 100% sure | 14:19 |
| yamamoto | so, this rfe is about changing the behaviour of the combination of qos-fip + port forwarding? | 14:20 |
| slaweq | that is only my assumption :) | 14:21 |
| yamamoto | i guess we should ask some clarification :) | 14:21 |
| slaweq | I think I will ask about that in RFE and we can back to it next week | 14:22 |
| slaweq | what do You think? | 14:22 |
| yamamoto | +1 except that i guess we will skip next week | 14:22 |
| slaweq | yep, so we will back to it on next meeting | 14:23 |
| yamamoto | +1 | 14:23 |
| slaweq | ok, I will post questions after this meeting | 14:24 |
| slaweq | lets go to the next one | 14:24 |
| slaweq | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1793653 | 14:24 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1793653 in neutron "[RFE] Enable other subprojects to extend l2pop fdb information" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to ChenjieXu (midone) | 14:24 |
| slaweq | Chenjie: the floor is Yours :) | 14:24 |
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| Chenjie | thanks! | 14:25 |
| Chenjie | Miguel asked about performance issues. I sent an email to WR to ask for performance issues but didn't got reply. | 14:26 |
| Chenjie | Miguel said that he has sent an email to Thomas to ask his opinion on this RFE. I don't know whether Thomas reply or not. | 14:27 |
| yamamoto | WR? | 14:27 |
| Chenjie | WindRiver | 14:27 |
| slaweq | no, tmorin didn't reply anything | 14:27 |
| Chenjie | This RFE is a patch from StarlingX. | 14:27 |
| Chenjie | StarlingX comes from WindRiver. | 14:28 |
| yamamoto | i'm still not sure how it can work. how do you distinguish agent ip for tunnels and your gateway ip? | 14:28 |
| Chenjie | I think there is no need to distinguish agent_ip for tunnels and gateway ip. | 14:29 |
| yamamoto | why not? | 14:30 |
| Chenjie | For neutron network agent_ip is used. For bgp_vpn network gateway ip is used. | 14:30 |
| slaweq | am I understand correctly that You want to have something which will allow subprojects to "plug into" l2pop logic and add own IP:mac pairs which neutron will send to agents? | 14:31 |
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| Chenjie | slaweq: yes! | 14:32 |
| yamamoto | now i'm confused. maybe because i don't understand bgpvpn. | 14:32 |
| yamamoto | maybe some examples of l2pop rpc payloads with this extension would help | 14:33 |
| slaweq | ok, so in fact it's not on neutron's side to distinguish IPs, if some project will add SOME IP:MAC pair, neutron will just add fdb entries for it, right? | 14:33 |
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| Chenjie | yamamoto: yes, I think so. I will add some examples to the RFE later. | 14:34 |
| yamamoto | thank you | 14:34 |
| Chenjie | slaweq: yes! | 14:34 |
| Chenjie | yamamoto: you are welcome! | 14:34 |
| slaweq | Chenjie: ok, thx. I think that now I understand it more or less :) | 14:35 |
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| yamamoto | i have another concern. implications for non agent implementations. like odl | 14:35 |
| slaweq | Chenjie: please add those examples to RFE to make it all 100% clear | 14:35 |
| slaweq | yamamoto: are they using l2pop mechanism driver? | 14:35 |
| Chenjie | slaweq: Ok, I will do that. | 14:35 |
| yamamoto | slaweq: i don't think so | 14:36 |
| yamamoto | if bgpvpn chose to propagate this info via l2pop, it won't be available to non-agent implementations | 14:36 |
| yamamoto | isn't it a problem? | 14:37 |
| Chenjie | yamamoto: it should not be problem. | 14:37 |
| Chenjie | yamamoto: this RFE just wants to avoid broadcast. In non-agent implementations, they will just broadcast. | 14:38 |
| Chenjie | yamamoto: this RFE can avoid the broadcast when the vm in the neutron network send packet to other networks. | 14:39 |
| slaweq | yamamoto: here I agree with Chenjie - this is feature for l2pop, if e.g. odl wants to have something similar, they need to implement it on their own | 14:40 |
| yamamoto | and make bgpvpn provide the same info in two different ways? | 14:41 |
| slaweq | hmm, that is good point | 14:42 |
| slaweq | how odl is today dealing with fdb entries for neutron ports? Do You know? | 14:43 |
| slaweq | in other words, what they are using instead of l2pop mechanism | 14:43 |
| yamamoto | i don't argue they should implement it for odl. but it might be better to have some abstraction. | 14:43 |
| yamamoto | i don't know | 14:43 |
| slaweq | yes, I know, odl is only an example here :) | 14:44 |
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| yamamoto | i'll ping some odl folk to look at the rfe later | 14:45 |
| Chenjie | yamamoto: thanks! | 14:45 |
| slaweq | yamamoto: ok, so let's wait for their feedback on it | 14:45 |
| slaweq | and for Chenjie's examples too :) | 14:45 |
| Chenjie | yamamoto: for now l2pop uses: ports:{agent_ip_1: [(mac_1, ip_1),(mac_2, ip_2)], agent_ip_2: [(mac_3, ip_3),(mac_4, ip_4)]} | 14:45 |
| slaweq | and we will get back to this one also on next meeting, ok? | 14:46 |
| Chenjie | yamamoto: other subprojects just need to add fdb in this format | 14:46 |
| Chenjie | slaweq: Ok, thanks! | 14:46 |
| slaweq | yamamoto: fine for You? | 14:47 |
| yamamoto | Chenjie: i vaguely remember that there was some surrounding structure. "vxlan" or something. | 14:48 |
| Chenjie | yamamoto: yes | 14:48 |
| Chenjie | yamamoto: I will post the correct format in the RFE. | 14:48 |
| yamamoto | Chenjie: thank you | 14:49 |
| yamamoto | slaweq: yes | 14:49 |
| slaweq | ok | 14:49 |
| slaweq | lets go to the last one then | 14:49 |
| slaweq | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1784590 | 14:49 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1784590 in neutron "neutron-dynamic-routing bgp agent should have options for MP-BGP" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Ryan Tidwell (ryan-tidwell) | 14:49 |
| slaweq | IIUC this RFE, it's about adding possibility to annonce IPv6 prefixes to IPv4 peers | 14:51 |
| yamamoto | it seems fine in general. i wonder how we can/should expose different capabilities of different backends though. | 14:51 |
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| slaweq | yamamoto: You mean by API for example? or what exactly? | 14:54 |
| yamamoto | for api users. | 14:54 |
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| slaweq | that's good question | 14:55 |
| slaweq | is it done for any other capabilities currently? Do You know? | 14:55 |
| tidwellr | it's not | 14:55 |
| yamamoto | and the proposed patch seems to "just" change the behaviour. i wonder if it can be a compat problem. | 14:56 |
| tidwellr | yamamoto: in its current state, you can applying the peering relationship via the API, but it fails silently | 14:56 |
| slaweq | can we maybe add shim api extension which will expose if this feature is available or not? | 14:57 |
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| slaweq | tidwellr: in current API it is possible, so there will be no API change here, right? | 14:57 |
| tidwellr | slaweq: right the user that encountered the bug assumed this should work because the API allows you to map peers to a BGP speaker of ip_version=4 | 14:58 |
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| njohnston | wow, the DST change is really screwing me up | 14:59 |
| slaweq | ok, so IMO this if fine to go like it is now | 14:59 |
| slaweq | yamamoto: haleyb: what do You think? | 14:59 |
| haleyb | i try not to think :) | 14:59 |
| slaweq | sorry | 14:59 |
| yamamoto | it's ok for me as far as the behaviour change is stated loudly in doc | 15:00 |
| tidwellr | I agree that some sort of discoverability is needed here though | 15:00 |
| slaweq | we are out of time now | 15:00 |
| haleyb | seriously, the bug and change look ok, short of a release note. but think the discovery would be a good thing as tidwellr states | 15:01 |
| yamamoto | njohnston: i always feel lucky to live in a country without dst | 15:01 |
| slaweq | I agree haleyb but maybe this discovery of features may be another rfe? of should it be included in this one? | 15:01 |
| slaweq | ok, we need to finish | 15:02 |
| slaweq | #endmeeting | 15:02 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Fri Nov 9 15:02:16 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:02 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2018/neutron_drivers.2018-11-09-14.01.html | 15:02 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2018/neutron_drivers.2018-11-09-14.01.txt | 15:02 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2018/neutron_drivers.2018-11-09-14.01.log.html | 15:02 |
| slaweq | thx guys, let's finish this discusion in neutron channel maybe | 15:02 |
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