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| bauzas | gibi: shouldn't we have a nova meeting | 14:03 |
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| bauzas | ? | 14:03 |
| tssurya | o/ | 14:03 |
| gibi | #startmeeting nova | 14:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Oct 4 14:03:20 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gibi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:03 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova' | 14:03 |
| takashin | o/ | 14:03 |
| tssurya | oops o/ again | 14:03 |
| Luzi | o/ | 14:03 |
| gmann | o/ | 14:03 |
| dansmith | o/ | 14:03 |
| efried | ō/ | 14:03 |
| mhen | o/ | 14:03 |
| edleafe | \o | 14:04 |
| gibi | hi, I think I will be your guide today | 14:04 |
| bauzas | \o | 14:04 |
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| gibi | let's get started | 14:04 |
| gibi | #topic Release News | 14:04 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to "Release News (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:04 | |
| gibi | #link Stein release schedule: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/Stein_Release_Schedule | 14:04 |
| * cdent wanders in late. time is hard. | 14:04 | |
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| gibi | #link Stein runway etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-runways-stein | 14:05 |
| gibi | #link runway #1: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/use-nested-allocation-candidates (gibi) [END: 2018-10-04] next patch is https://review.openstack.org/583667 | 14:05 |
| gibi | #link runway #2: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/vmware-live-migration (rgerganov) [END: 2018-10-12] one patch https://review.openstack.org/270116 | 14:05 |
| gibi | #link runway #3: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/boot-instance-specific-storage-backend (brinzhang)[END:2018-10-14] | 14:05 |
| gibi | the runway queue is empty | 14:06 |
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| gibi | anything about release schedule or runways to discuss? | 14:06 |
| gibi | then moving on | 14:07 |
| gibi | #topic Bugs | 14:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:07 | |
| gibi | no critical bugs | 14:07 |
| gibi | #link 60 new untriaged bugs (small decrease since last meeting): https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?search=Search&field.status=New | 14:08 |
| gibi | #link 5 untagged untriaged bugs (down 18 since the last meeting): https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.tag=-*&field.status%3Alist=NEW | 14:08 |
| gibi | that is actually pretty good ^^ | 14:08 |
| gibi | thanks for whoever did the triage | 14:08 |
| gibi | #link bug triage how-to: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/BugTriage#Tags | 14:09 |
| gibi | anything about bugs to discuss? | 14:09 |
| sean-k-mooney | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1795920 | 14:09 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1795920 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "SR-IOV shared PCI numa not working " [Undecided,Confirmed] | 14:09 |
| sean-k-mooney | we did not fully implement the spec resulting in this bug | 14:10 |
| sean-k-mooney | i am going to reporpose teh spec for completion if there are no objections | 14:10 |
| gibi | sean-k-mooney: make sense to me. Thanks for taking care of it | 14:11 |
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| gibi | I think the silence means no objection :) | 14:11 |
| gibi | anything else? | 14:11 |
| gibi | on bugs | 14:12 |
| gibi | then | 14:12 |
| gibi | Gate status | 14:12 |
| gibi | #link check queue gate status http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/index.html | 14:12 |
| bauzas | gibi: you're correct on the assumption :) | 14:12 |
| gibi | 3rd party CI | 14:12 |
| gibi | #link 3rd party CI status http://ci-watch.tintri.com/project?project=nova&time=7+days | 14:12 |
| gibi | the gate feels faster for me but the parallel evacuation bug hit us hard | 14:12 |
| bauzas | right | 14:12 |
| gibi | http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/index.html#1763181 | 14:13 |
| gibi | mriedem proposed a patch to turn the test off but mdbooth has a fix up as well | 14:13 |
| * gibi grabbing link | 14:13 | |
| gibi | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/607620 | 14:13 |
| gibi | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/605436 | 14:14 |
| bauzas | we can skip for now | 14:14 |
| bauzas | I'll +W the change | 14:14 |
| gibi | bauzas: works for me | 14:14 |
| bauzas | and then we can test the change separately | 14:14 |
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| efried | FWIW, the fix fixes the test case | 14:14 |
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| efried | But dansmith is concerned (rightly so) about the scope/impact/side effects of the fix | 14:15 |
| dansmith | yup | 14:15 |
| gibi | I saw that mdbooth answered dansmith in the review so I think that discussion can move forward | 14:15 |
| bauzas | efried: sure, but we can ask to remove the skipTest in the change | 14:15 |
| efried | yes | 14:16 |
| dansmith | I see I have things to read this morning | 14:16 |
| bauzas | efried: so while other changes aren't impacted, we can check it works | 14:16 |
| bauzas | nothing really blocking the fix | 14:16 |
| bauzas | except maybe to have it rebased on top of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/607620 | 14:16 |
| bauzas | so that it can remove the skipTest | 14:16 |
| bauzas | mdbooth : ^ | 14:17 |
| efried | I just didn't want to have us forget about the fix because it's hard and the failure is no longer occurring because we simply skipped it. | 14:17 |
| bauzas | efried: I promise I won't :) | 14:17 |
| efried | :) | 14:17 |
| bauzas | and I guess matt won't too | 14:17 |
| gibi | OK I think we have a clear way forward. moving on :) | 14:17 |
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| gibi | anything else about gate? | 14:18 |
| gibi | #topic Reminders | 14:18 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Reminders (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:18 | |
| gibi | #link high level nova PTG summary: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-September/135122.html | 14:18 |
| gibi | #link Stein Subteam Patches n Bugs: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/stein-nova-subteam-tracking | 14:18 |
| gibi | any other reminder to note? | 14:19 |
| gibi | #topic Stable branch status | 14:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Stable branch status (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:19 | |
| gibi | #link stable/rocky: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/rocky,n,z | 14:19 |
| gibi | #link stable/queens: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/queens,n,z | 14:19 |
| gibi | #link stable/pike: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/pike,n,z | 14:20 |
| gibi | #link stable/ocata: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/ocata,n,z | 14:20 |
| gibi | mriedem is not here do somebody has a short summary about the stable status? | 14:20 |
| gibi | Are we still working on flushing out the last ocata release before EM? | 14:20 |
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| gibi | we have couple of patches in the ocata queue so I guees those are needed to be released before EM | 14:22 |
| gibi | anything else on stable? | 14:22 |
| gibi | #topic Subteam Highlights | 14:23 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Subteam Highlights (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:23 | |
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| mdbooth_ | o/ | 14:23 |
| gibi | Cells v2 (dansmith) | 14:23 |
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| jding1_ | o/ | 14:23 |
| dansmith | no meeting this week, | 14:23 |
| dansmith | but down cell is proceeding, | 14:23 |
| dansmith | and matt has a PoC up for the cross-cell migration stuff | 14:23 |
| dansmith | which is fairly amazing | 14:23 |
| dansmith | oh, and there's a bug with the console stuff we deprecated last cycle | 14:24 |
| dansmith | which melwitt has some patches up for.. I haven't fully grokked that situation but I think it's progressing as well | 14:24 |
| dansmith | that's about it I think,. | 14:24 |
| gibi | thanks | 14:24 |
| gibi | Scheduler (efried) | 14:24 |
| efried | #link Last NovaScheduler meeting minutes http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_scheduler/2018/nova_scheduler.2018-10-01-14.00.html | 14:24 |
| bauzas | heh | 14:25 |
| bauzas | good luck | 14:25 |
| efried | We talked about the consumer gen series. I'll get through as much of that as I can today. | 14:25 |
| efried | Extraction is still progressing. | 14:25 |
| efried | #link ML thread on "intended purpose" of traits http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-September/135209.html | 14:25 |
| efried | was mentioned and briefly discussed | 14:25 |
| efried | Talked a bit further about how to handle configuring min_unit (and others) in a forward-looking (i.e. generic NRP) way. jaypipes agreed to look at the specs that might move us in that direction: | 14:25 |
| efried | #link kosamara's spec for modeling passthrough https://review.openstack.org/#/c/591037/ | 14:25 |
| efried | #link sean-k-mooney's wip spec for generic device discovery/modeling https://review.openstack.org/#/c/603805/ | 14:25 |
| efried | Idea being to pick one of those so we can narrow our focus and move the ball forward. | 14:26 |
| efried | END | 14:26 |
| gibi | efried: thanks | 14:26 |
| gibi | Notification (gibi) | 14:26 |
| gibi | I've cancelled the weekly meeting indefinitely due to low interest: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/607314/ | 14:26 |
| gibi | so I guess this is the last report | 14:27 |
| gibi | but I still be around for notification work (too) | 14:27 |
| gibi | END | 14:27 |
| gibi | API (gmann) | 14:27 |
| gibi | gmann left note on the wiki: no office hour this week. | 14:27 |
| gmann | no API office hour this week. i have added API related stein items in subteam etherpad last week #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/stein-nova-subteam-tracking | 14:27 |
| gmann | not other update to share. will start reviewing those items | 14:28 |
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| gibi | gmann: thanks | 14:28 |
| gibi | anything else subteam related? | 14:28 |
| gibi | #topci Stuck Reviews | 14:28 |
| gibi | nothing on the agenda | 14:29 |
| gibi | does anybody want to mention something here? | 14:29 |
| gibi | #topic Stuck Reviews | 14:29 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Stuck Reviews (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:29 | |
| bauzas | gibi: #undo is cool for such things ;) | 14:29 |
| gibi | bauzas: the keyword was wrong, so nothing to undo | 14:30 |
| gibi | #topic Open discussion | 14:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:30 | |
| gibi | we have one item on the agenda | 14:30 |
| gibi | HPET support on x86 guests: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/support-hpet-on-guest | 14:30 |
| efried | I took a preliminary look at the code: | 14:30 |
| efried | #link HPET patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/605902/ | 14:30 |
| * bauzas won't make the joke again | 14:30 | |
| efried | The thing I thought we might want to discuss is a) how strict we should be in terms of making sure we get on a HPET-capable host if that was requested in the flavor | 14:30 |
| efried | and b) whether we should be using traits in here | 14:31 |
| efried | The case for b) becomes stronger if a) is a yes. | 14:31 |
| efried | rather, if a) is "we should be strict" | 14:31 |
| sean-k-mooney | efried: if we request a hpet in the guest i think we shoudl refuse to spawn if the host cant supprot it | 14:31 |
| gibi | efried: would libvirt fail to spawn if the host does not support hpet ? | 14:32 |
| efried | Okay. Not really having a handle on how users perceive this thing, that was my reaction too. | 14:32 |
| efried | No, right now the code is set up to be really forgiving. If you include the extra spec, but you spell it wrong, or the host isn't capable, it just spawns anyway with HPET off. | 14:32 |
| gibi | efried: I see | 14:32 |
| efried | If we make it stricter just in the driver, then the failure would be late, which isn't ideal, and is precisely what traits are meant for. | 14:33 |
| sean-k-mooney | well spelling mistaks can be ignored but the later is a bug in my view | 14:33 |
| efried | we can't do anything about spelling the key wrong. But if you misspell "treu" that should be an early failure. | 14:33 |
| sean-k-mooney | efried: we could report hpet suport as a cpu/compute node trait | 14:33 |
| efried | yes, sean-k-mooney, exactly. | 14:33 |
| gibi | efried: I totally agree that if we want to fail we should fail in placement GET a_c | 14:34 |
| efried | and either parlay hw:hpet=True into a required=<trait_name> or require the flavor to include the latter explicitly. | 14:34 |
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| efried | This goes back to the discussion about having to say a thing twice, once to schedule and once to turn it on. | 14:35 |
| efried | which is not an ideal ux | 14:35 |
| sean-k-mooney | efried: well we do not want traits to enable things correct so if we removed one of the two we would keep the extra spec and have nova generate the trait | 14:35 |
| efried | if we make a call for this case, it sets a precedent for the whole ironic deploy template design too... | 14:35 |
| gibi | I like the idea of saying once "I want this to be turned on" and as a result the instance get scheduled accordingly and the feature is turned on in the backend | 14:36 |
| efried | sean-k-mooney: I think that's probably the decision least likely to result in all-out war. | 14:36 |
| efried | The problem of course being that it's kind of arcane knowledge that some extra specs get parlayed into required traits. Doc doc doc. | 14:36 |
| * sean-k-mooney wait im not onthe all-out war side this feels weird | 14:36 | |
| bauzas | well | 14:37 |
| sean-k-mooney | efried: that is true but i think that is preferable to documentin you must ad extra spec x and trait y | 14:37 |
| bauzas | I don't have a particular opinion on that, except that fat-fingering shouldn't be a nova issue | 14:38 |
| bauzas | whether it should be an direct extraspec trait or something we would transform is not really important for me | 14:38 |
| sean-k-mooney | typos could be addresed seperatly with the extra spec validation proposal so i think thats a seperate issue | 14:38 |
| efried | Using strict=True when interpreting the bool value | 14:38 |
| bauzas | if you make typos in your flavor, it's your fault, right? | 14:39 |
| efried | seems like a pretty low-risk, low-cost validation strategy | 14:39 |
| efried | to some extent, yes. Like I say, there's no way we can validate the key, because there's not a prescriptive set of keys - you can put anything you want in there. | 14:39 |
| jding1_ | I second that document both but only expose hw:hpet to extra spec and let now generate traits | 14:39 |
| efried | But we can at least validate that the value - of a known key - matches the "data type" we expect. | 14:39 |
| jding1_ | let nova genarate traits | 14:40 |
| efried | I would like to hear jaypipes and/or dansmith weigh in on this | 14:40 |
| dansmith | sorry, something unfortunate came up that is distracting me from paying attention here | 14:40 |
| sean-k-mooney | efried: there is a scema for validate via the glace metdadef api already | 14:40 |
| sean-k-mooney | for extra spec validation that is | 14:40 |
| gibi | efried: then I guess we need to wait for them to express their oppinion on the review | 14:41 |
| dansmith | is this spec discussion about hpet and how to request it from placement? | 14:41 |
| gibi | dansmith: I think it is a specless bp right now | 14:41 |
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| gibi | dansmith: and an implementation patch | 14:42 |
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| dansmith | okay | 14:42 |
| dansmith | I've only skimmed, | 14:42 |
| efried | To summarize: | 14:42 |
| efried | We add a trait, say HPET_CAPABLE, which x86 libvirt adds to the host RP next to other "capabilities". | 14:42 |
| efried | Operator puts extra spec hw:hpet=True in their flavor. | 14:42 |
| efried | Nova looks at hw:hpet=True and adds required=HPET_CAPABLE to the GET /a_c request | 14:42 |
| efried | libvirt sees hw:hpet=True and switches HPET on in the guest. | 14:42 |
| dansmith | efried: yeah, was just typing that out.. what's wrong with that approach? | 14:42 |
| efried | dansmith: Nothing, I'm good with it. Wanted to make sure you were. | 14:43 |
| * cdent is confused | 14:43 | |
| dansmith | am I missing the thing I should hate there? | 14:43 |
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| cdent | why is this differerent from requiring a trait? | 14:43 |
| efried | Well, I find it slightly arcane that we're special-casing an extra spec to push a required trait t othe placement request | 14:43 |
| cdent | jinx | 14:43 |
| dansmith | we're not? | 14:43 |
| bauzas | efried: just one point | 14:43 |
| efried | cdent: Oh, because we're using it to switch on a thing in the guest, as well as making it part of the scheduling decision. | 14:44 |
| dansmith | you can already do required=$trait in a flavor yeah? | 14:44 |
| dansmith | oh, I see, but.. | 14:44 |
| bauzas | efried: we're talking a lot of transforming extra specs into traits and/or request groups | 14:44 |
| dansmith | isn't that kinda the approach we have with GPUs already? | 14:44 |
| bauzas | efried: I think someone should take his guts and write something clean for that | 14:44 |
| efried | dansmith: This is the whole crux of the ironic deploy template discussion right now. | 14:44 |
| bauzas | efried: it could be me because $NUMA, or it could be you | 14:44 |
| cdent | the use of traits in the GET /a_c part seems solid and normal | 14:44 |
| dansmith | efried: it is, except that the deploy template is more than just one thing | 14:44 |
| bauzas | dansmith: we directly ask a resource class in the flavor | 14:45 |
| cdent | it's the issue of having to transform from hw:hpet=True that is odd | 14:45 |
| efried | dansmith: take the UEFI example - that's just one thing, right? | 14:45 |
| dansmith | cdent: we don't | 14:45 |
| bauzas | dansmith: here, I think efried is asking to hide this into an extra spec | 14:45 |
| cdent | dansmith: that's what efried described abvoe | 14:45 |
| bauzas | I'm not opposed to, I just want to make the mapping easy | 14:45 |
| dansmith | cdent: oh sorry, I see, I missed those two steps | 14:45 |
| dansmith | why wouldn't we just put the required trait in the flavor? | 14:45 |
| cdent | bingo | 14:45 |
| dansmith | that said, the whole point of the request filter stuff is to translate novaisms into placementisms to some degree | 14:46 |
| efried | dansmith: Because then the operator has to remember to say both things, which kind of sucks. | 14:46 |
| dansmith | efried: oh, because libvirt doesn't see the request we made to placement, thus doesn't see that we asked for it, | 14:46 |
| dansmith | but it can see the flavor | 14:46 |
| bauzas | efried: like I said, my NUMA spec proposes some transformation-ism from an extra spec to a list of numbered request groups | 14:46 |
| dansmith | and that the flavor asked for that trait | 14:46 |
| * dansmith is catching up | 14:46 | |
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| bauzas | wait | 14:47 |
| bauzas | we have allocations, right? | 14:47 |
| sean-k-mooney | dansmith: even if it could see the trait we do not enable capablite based on traits | 14:47 |
| bauzas | for VGPUs, we exactly know what the user asked | 14:47 |
| dansmith | sean-k-mooney: currently. | 14:47 |
| dansmith | this seems like the trait version of what we do for GPU to me | 14:47 |
| efried | So here's the spectrum: | 14:47 |
| efried | - Operator says hw:hpet=True and we magically add required=HPET_CAPABLE to the placement call. | 14:47 |
| efried | - Operator says required=HPET_CAPABLE and libvirt uses that as its prompt to set it on the guest <== this is what jaypipes hates | 14:47 |
| efried | - Operator says both hw:hpet=True,required=HPET_CAPABLE, which is poor ux because if he forgets one or the other, he doesn't get what he wants. | 14:47 |
| sean-k-mooney | dansmith: or ever if i understand jaypipes view on that | 14:48 |
| dansmith | efried: jaypipes said he hates it? | 14:48 |
| efried | Well, he hates the principle | 14:48 |
| dansmith | I guess that's on the review? | 14:48 |
| efried | he hasn't weighed in on HPET specifically | 14:48 |
| efried | but using traits to effect guest config he has come down hard on. | 14:48 |
| dansmith | I feel like there might be some confusion about how this does or does not overlap with the ironic case | 14:48 |
| bauzas | oh wait | 14:49 |
| dansmith | I think that is because of the traits being complex in the ironic case, and needing to be basically parsed to extract the key=value aspect | 14:49 |
| sean-k-mooney | dansmith: jaypipes has said previouly that we should not use reired=X to enable X in the context of secure boot and other things | 14:49 |
| dansmith | but I could be wrong | 14:49 |
| bauzas | for VGPUs, we only get allocations | 14:49 |
| efried | For the ironic case, if we just stick to the UEFI case, which is 1:1, it's a good parallel. | 14:49 |
| bauzas | so we don't really know the traits | 14:49 |
| efried | but yeah, the multifaceted deploy templates gets off into deeper weeds. | 14:49 |
| bauzas | we only see whether we have a specific resource class | 14:49 |
| dansmith | can we maybe just schedule a hangout with the man himself instead of everyone parroting what they think he intends? | 14:49 |
| bauzas | for HPET, we would need to pass the request down the virt driver | 14:49 |
| dansmith | I think we could burn through this quicker that way anyway | 14:50 |
| dansmith | instead of everyone watching this | 14:50 |
| efried | wfm. jding1_ would you be available for a google hangout? | 14:50 |
| bauzas | + | 14:50 |
| bauzas | +1 even | 14:50 |
| bauzas | but I have to run in a call right after this meeting | 14:50 |
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| jding1_ | will see what time | 14:51 |
| efried | jding1_: and cfriesen too | 14:51 |
| efried | so | 14:51 |
| sean-k-mooney | sure that siad i also do not like using traits to enable features e.g. retuired=hpet_capable give you a hpet unless i can do that with everything like hugepages | 14:51 |
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| efried | It's probably worth writing up these three alternatives at least into the blueprint template, if not into a short spec. | 14:51 |
| gibi | efried: I agree | 14:51 |
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| efried | cfriesen: You may want to read the scrollback. Or I can catch you up in -nova after the meeting. | 14:52 |
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| gibi | dansmith: will you organize the hangouts session for this? | 14:53 |
| cfriesen | efried: checking scrollback now | 14:53 |
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| dansmith | gibi: that won't go well, given my week | 14:53 |
| sean-k-mooney | cfriesen: did you also have a topic related to vtpm that you wanted to get eyes on? | 14:54 |
| dansmith | I'm sure efried wants that job | 14:54 |
| efried | I can write words, but not sure where I should put them. | 14:54 |
| gibi | efried: put it in the blueprint as a start | 14:54 |
| cfriesen | sean-k-mooney: yeah, I wasn't sure if I was going to make it so I didn't put it on the agenda | 14:54 |
| efried | I could work with cfriesen/jding1_ on a short spec and we could discuss there, if that'll ease schedules. | 14:54 |
| gibi | efried: thank you | 14:54 |
| efried | I don't think I have authority to edit the bp, and not sure the whiteboard is a good spot for it. | 14:55 |
| cfriesen | If people have a few minutes...there's a sort of similar question around how flexible to make the virtual TPM stuff. (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/571111) | 14:55 |
| sean-k-mooney | cfriesen: i think we are just done with the hpet topic if you want to use the last 5 mins | 14:55 |
| sean-k-mooney | :) | 14:55 |
| efried | cfriesen, jding1_: I'll write up the essentials and propose a spec review we can discuss on, and then give it over to y'all to fill in the details and make it buildable? | 14:56 |
| jaypipes | sorry folks, reading back... | 14:56 |
| gibi | cfriesen: go ahead you have 3 minutes :) | 14:56 |
| cfriesen | efried: sounds good. Sean had suggested specifying the tpm type and version number, (with version defaulting to something if not specified). then nova would translate that to a resource/trait request. | 14:56 |
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| efried | so same design pattern | 14:57 |
| cfriesen | alternately we could have the flavor specify it directly in placement terminology | 14:57 |
| jding1_ | efried: sounds good | 14:57 |
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| cfriesen | so for tpm we have an actual spec | 14:58 |
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| cfriesen | maybe we want to put the alternatives in there and use that as proxy for the hpet discussion? | 14:58 |
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| sean-k-mooney | efried: yes same pattern. if we model hugepages in placement in the futre i would also like to translate hw:mem_page_size into traits too | 14:59 |
| gibi | cfriesen: hpet is a bit special as it only uses traits not resource classes | 14:59 |
| cfriesen | gibi: ah, good point | 14:59 |
| gibi | we are running out of time | 14:59 |
| gibi | continue this on #openstack-nova | 14:59 |
| cfriesen | yep | 14:59 |
| gibi | thank you all | 14:59 |
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| gibi | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
| bauzas | thanks | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Oct 4 15:00:02 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2018/nova.2018-10-04-14.03.html | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2018/nova.2018-10-04-14.03.txt | 15:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2018/nova.2018-10-04-14.03.log.html | 15:00 |
| sean-k-mooney | o/ | 15:00 |
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| gagehugo | #startmeeting security | 15:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Oct 4 15:01:27 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gagehugo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: security)" | 15:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'security' | 15:01 |
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| gagehugo | #chair lhinds | 15:01 |
| openstack | Current chairs: gagehugo lhinds | 15:01 |
| gagehugo | ping eeiden fungi gagehugo lhinds nickthetait browne redrobot | 15:02 |
| fungi | howdy | 15:02 |
| nickthetait | heyo | 15:02 |
| redrobot | o/ | 15:02 |
| gagehugo | agenda: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/security-agenda | 15:02 |
| * redrobot is only half here... also in an IRL meeting. | 15:02 | |
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| jaypipes | efried: I don't see why we don't just have trait:HPET=require in the flavor extra specs? | 15:03 |
| efried | jaypipes: move to -nova pls | 15:03 |
| gagehugo | #topic ossa/ossn | 15:03 |
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| jaypipes | why add some magic "if I see hw:hpet extra spec, then create a trait:HPET=require" automatically? | 15:04 |
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| gagehugo | https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1795800 was made public yesterday I believe | 15:04 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1795800 in OpenStack Identity (keystone) "Username enumeration via response timing difference" [Undecided,New] | 15:04 |
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| nickthetait | ah yes | 15:05 |
| gagehugo | getting the timings to match up was deemed not an easy task | 15:06 |
| gagehugo | #topic Documentation | 15:07 |
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| gagehugo | I think doug pushed some tox changes to the security-doc repos | 15:07 |
| gagehugo | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/security-doc+branch:master+topic:python3-first | 15:08 |
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| gagehugo | #topic Threat Analysis Docs | 15:10 |
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| gagehugo | Same 3 are up for review | 15:10 |
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| gagehugo | #topic general discussion | 15:10 |
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| gagehugo | fungi nickthetait redrobot do you guys have anything? | 15:11 |
| nickthetait | no | 15:11 |
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| fungi | other than that new security hardening bug you linked for keystone, nothing from me | 15:12 |
| fungi | thanks! | 15:12 |
| fungi | also the two cinder potential ossa public bugs we mentioned last week still need some help | 15:12 |
| smcginnis | fungi: Not sure I'm aware of those. | 15:12 |
| gagehugo | https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1784871 | 15:13 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1784871 in OpenStack Security Advisory "ScaleIO (thin) volumes contain previous data (follow-up to 1699573)" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 15:13 |
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| smcginnis | gagehugo: Ah, thanks! | 15:13 |
| gagehugo | https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1714858 | 15:14 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1714858 in OpenStack Security Advisory "Some APIs don't check the owner policy" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 15:14 |
| fungi | one of them looks like it probably needs us to issue an advisory? less sure about the other one | 15:14 |
| gagehugo | fungi: ack, I'll look them over | 15:14 |
| fungi | (us being members of the vmt, but assistance from other interested parties is also welcome since they're public reports) | 15:15 |
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| gagehugo | Is anyone going to be in Berlin? | 15:16 |
| gagehugo | next summit is little over a month away | 15:17 |
| nickthetait | I cant :'( | 15:18 |
| gagehugo | I don't think I will be either unfortunately | 15:18 |
| gagehugo | If no one else has anything, we can end early | 15:21 |
| gagehugo | give back a few mins | 15:22 |
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| gagehugo | Thanks everyone, have a good weekend! | 15:23 |
| gagehugo | #endmeeting | 15:23 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Oct 4 15:23:24 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:23 |
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