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| ekcs | #startmeeting congressteammeeting | 02:30 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Fri Aug 31 02:30:50 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ekcs. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 02:30 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 02:30 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'congressteammeeting' | 02:30 |
| ekcs | hi all! | 02:31 |
| ekcs | topics are kept here as usual: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/congress-meeting-topics | 02:31 |
| ekcs | feel free to add your own! | 02:31 |
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| akhil_jain | Hi ekcs | 02:33 |
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| ekcs | hi akhil_jain | 02:33 |
| ekcs | ok let’s get started then. | 02:35 |
| ekcs | #topic tempest feature flags | 02:36 |
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| ekcs | queens was the first time we moved to a tempest plugin model, so it’s the first stable branch on that model. | 02:36 |
| ekcs | so naturally we had to adapt to some new things like feature flags. | 02:37 |
| ekcs | it used to be that congress carried the tempest tests in-tree. but now all branches starting from queens run against the same tempest plugin. | 02:37 |
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| ekcs | naturally when data source schemas change or when new features are added, the tests are updated and no longer work for old branches. | 02:38 |
| ekcs | so we had to add feature flags to address the problem. | 02:38 |
| ekcs | here are the ones added for rocky https://review.openstack.org/#/c/594747/ | 02:38 |
| ekcs | also there’s a patch for adding stable branch checks to catch breakage when the tempest plugin is updated: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/591861/ | 02:39 |
| ekcs | any thoughts or questions on tempest feature flags? | 02:40 |
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| ekcs | it should also help us catch things that break on stable branches because of changes in other project stable branches such as the nova client version bump in stable/queens. | 02:42 |
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| ekcs | ok moving on then. | 02:48 |
| ekcs | #topic monasca webhook | 02:49 |
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| ekcs | akhil_jain: I see your patch on normalizing monasca webhook tables. great making more info available in the tables. | 02:50 |
| ekcs | anything you’d like to discuss at this point? | 02:50 |
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| akhil_jain | ekcs: i have addressed all of your comment. Just one thing left. Can you please share your view on use case we need to add in that. | 02:51 |
| ekcs | Got it. | 02:52 |
| ekcs | So I was thinking that you guys may have some sample policies driving the desire for the webhook driver. | 02:53 |
| ekcs | and looking at those policies then trying to write it using this new schema may be instructive for seeing what works well and what doesn't. | 02:54 |
| akhil_jain | Actualy that is with tacker. Whole scenario will be involving tacker congress and monasca | 02:55 |
| ekcs | not absolutely necessary. but colud be nice because with the policy we try to write, it may suggest a better way to set the schema for more convienent rules. | 02:55 |
| ekcs | I see. | 02:55 |
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| akhil_jain | So thats why needed your point of view. Just for sample use case | 02:56 |
| ekcs | not a necessity for this patch, but aside from it, is there any public example/info/discussion on this? i’d be helpful to understand the overall vision. | 02:57 |
| ekcs | not a necessity. more just for my benefit =) | 02:58 |
| akhil_jain | Yes that we can plan after tacker integration i think. | 03:00 |
| ekcs | ok. | 03:00 |
| ekcs | so nothing else on monasca webhook for now? | 03:00 |
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| akhil_jain | Also I will invite tacker PTL who worked alongside, to give more insight | 03:02 |
| ekcs | awesome. any links or references I could read up on would be great too. I may be able to be more helpful when I have more context. thanks! | 03:03 |
| ekcs | ok let’s move on then. | 03:04 |
| ekcs | #topic meeting time | 03:04 |
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| ekcs | we talked a bit about meeting time last meeting. | 03:04 |
| ekcs | we thought about reducing to 30 min. but another possibility is doing meeting every other week. | 03:05 |
| ekcs | we’ll gather more feedback later over email. but any thoughts for now? | 03:05 |
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| akhil_jain | Thats fine for me. | 03:06 |
| ekcs | ok. well i’ll get more feedback over email and figure that out. no change for now. | 03:06 |
| ekcs | that’s all the topics I have. anything else to discuss now? | 03:07 |
| akhil_jain | Not from my side | 03:08 |
| ekcs | alrite then. talk next time! | 03:08 |
| ekcs | have a great weekend! | 03:08 |
| akhil_jain | ekcs: thanks and same to you | 03:08 |
| ekcs | later akhil_jain | 03:09 |
| ekcs | #endmeeting | 03:09 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Fri Aug 31 03:09:07 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 03:09 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2018/congressteammeeting.2018-08-31-02.30.html | 03:09 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2018/congressteammeeting.2018-08-31-02.30.txt | 03:09 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2018/congressteammeeting.2018-08-31-02.30.log.html | 03:09 |
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| mlavalle | #startmeeting neutron_drivers | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Fri Aug 31 14:00:03 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mlavalle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_drivers' | 14:00 |
| haleyb | hi | 14:00 |
| mlavalle | hi | 14:00 |
| slaweq | hi | 14:00 |
| mlavalle | hey slaweq, elcome to your first drivers meeting | 14:00 |
| slaweq | hey :) | 14:00 |
| slaweq | and welcome drivers team! | 14:00 |
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| mlavalle | let's wait a couple of minutes for amotoki or yamamoto | 14:01 |
| manjeets_ | hi | 14:01 |
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| mlavalle | hi manjeets_ | 14:01 |
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| slaweq | amotoki sent email today that he will not be available | 14:02 |
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| mlavalle | LOL | 14:03 |
| slaweq | LOL | 14:03 |
| mlavalle | ok, let's get going | 14:03 |
| mlavalle | Firt one that we are going to discuss today is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1774463 | 14:04 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1774463 in neutron "RFE: Add support for IPv6 on DVR Routers for the Fast-path exit " [Wishlist,Triaged] | 14:04 |
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| haleyb | i don't see swami here... | 14:06 |
| mlavalle | we don't need him to be here, do we? | 14:07 |
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| haleyb | i guess not, just thinking of what else this entails than those 2 items | 14:08 |
| slaweq | I wonder what will be in case if there is IPv6 connected to instance but there is no FIP assigned | 14:09 |
| slaweq | then there will be no FIP namespace on node, right? | 14:09 |
| mlavalle | in principle, the idea seems sensible to me | 14:09 |
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| mlavalle | slaweq: yes, that would be the case | 14:10 |
| haleyb | there would still be a FIP namespace, shared for IPv6 usage now as for floating | 14:10 |
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| slaweq | ahh, so this FIP namespace will be created even if there will be no FIP associated to port, right? | 14:11 |
| haleyb | yes, and it should be able to forward IPv6, right now all IPv6 is centralized | 14:12 |
| slaweq | ok | 14:13 |
| mlavalle | let me point out that there is precedent as far as code: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/143917/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/138588/ | 14:13 |
| mlavalle | the comments in the patches seem favourable, but pending approval of the BP | 14:13 |
| haleyb | yes, and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/143917/ had some concepts that kind-of made this possible, if i remember some hacking i did with it a few years ago | 14:14 |
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| mlavalle | haleyb's question in regards what else is entailed seem appropriate. could you elaborate a little bit? | 14:15 |
| haleyb | mlavalle: sure. today with FIP we to ARP proxy, i'd assume we'd also need ND proxy for this, since it doesn't mention BGP, etc | 14:16 |
| mlavalle | right | 14:16 |
| haleyb | i don't know whethere it was just a typo to say "ra proxy" | 14:16 |
| haleyb | ? | 14:16 |
| mlavalle | yeah, I see what you say | 14:17 |
| mlavalle | so I propose to leave clarifying question in the RFE, for swami to respond so we can reconsider again | 14:17 |
| haleyb | i'll add a comment | 14:18 |
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| mlavalle | you ok, slaweq? | 14:18 |
| slaweq | yes | 14:18 |
| slaweq | sounds good | 14:18 |
| haleyb | mlavalle: and one other thing... | 14:18 |
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| haleyb | i guess maybe it's non-obvious to me that this requires subnet pool/address scopes to work (or maybe PD), since the ingress/egress rules drop traffic otherwise | 14:20 |
| haleyb | or maybe it's obvious i need to ask :) | 14:20 |
| mlavalle | it doesn't hurt to ask | 14:20 |
| mlavalle | it's part of our job, ask questions, even seemingly obvious ones | 14:21 |
| * haleyb is only remembering since he found a scoping issue the other day | 14:21 | |
| slaweq | I agree. We should ask questions :) | 14:21 |
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| mlavalle | haleyb: are you planning to ask the questions now or after the meeting? | 14:23 |
| mlavalle | slaweq: as you can see this meeting runs at a much slower pace. When I started attending it drove me crazy. But it is the way it should be. It's like the house of representatives and the Senate in US Congress. The Senate is much slower ;-) | 14:25 |
| slaweq | :) | 14:26 |
| slaweq | yes, I see but it's fine for me | 14:26 |
| mlavalle | because we should conider things | 14:26 |
| slaweq | I understand that | 14:26 |
| mlavalle | ok, it seems we can move on, thanks haleyb for the comment | 14:29 |
| mlavalle | Next one is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1777627 | 14:29 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1777627 in neutron "RFE: QoS – rule's management (set,delete, show…) requires <qos-policy> parameter in addition to <rule-id>" [Wishlist,Triaged] | 14:29 |
| njohnston | yamamoto's suggestion is wise | 14:30 |
| slaweq | I read it yesterday and I think that yamamoto's idea is good to fix this issue | 14:30 |
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| mlavalle | should have it been like that since the beginning? | 14:32 |
| slaweq | I think it could be like that | 14:32 |
| slaweq | in fact each rule has own uuid so it's uniq | 14:33 |
| mlavalle | do you remember why we went the other way? | 14:33 |
| slaweq | no, I wasn't working on it then | 14:33 |
| slaweq | I joined later | 14:33 |
| slaweq | I can ask ajo next week, maybe he will remember something | 14:34 |
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| mlavalle | maybe we were a little too orthodox with our ReST design | 14:34 |
| mlavalle | and the resource / sub-resource relationship | 14:34 |
| njohnston | ISTR it was because we were trying to follow the pattern set in other APIs, and we did not think enough about treating rules as first class objects | 14:34 |
| slaweq | that can be the reason | 14:34 |
| mlavalle | yeah, that's more or lesss what I meant with my comment | 14:35 |
| mlavalle | I am just trying to make sure we don't miss something obvious that they originally took into consideration | 14:35 |
| slaweq | but I think that yamamoto's suggestion is good, having such aliases internally will allow us to be backward compatible and provide new URI | 14:36 |
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| mlavalle | yes, I think it is a sensible approach and we make life easier to the client developers | 14:37 |
| slaweq | +1 | 14:37 |
| manjeets__ | yamamoto's solution is suggestion a api change ? would that v2/qos/bandwidth_rule/id will be an alias of existing api ? | 14:37 |
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| mlavalle | and we even save a rountd trip | 14:37 |
| mlavalle | API round trip | 14:37 |
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| mlavalle | manjeets__: yes, that's my understanding | 14:38 |
| slaweq | manjeets__: IIUC he is proposing to add new aliases for existing API | 14:38 |
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| mlavalle | LOL | 14:39 |
| manjeets_ | ah ok gotcha make sense ! if we change client that'll be two calls | 14:39 |
| slaweq | manjeets_: exactly | 14:39 |
| mlavalle | haleyb: we are considering https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1777627 | 14:40 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1777627 in neutron "RFE: QoS – rule's management (set,delete, show…) requires <qos-policy> parameter in addition to <rule-id>" [Wishlist,Triaged] | 14:40 |
| manjeets_ | I'm also facing vpn outages today | 14:40 |
| mlavalle | manjeets_: in your case we noticed | 14:40 |
| manjeets_ | have to look logs anyway after meeting | 14:40 |
| * njohnston got skunked by the same vpn outage as haleyb | 14:40 | |
| slaweq | LOL | 14:40 |
| slaweq | global disaster :D | 14:40 |
| mlavalle | with haleyb and njohnston I just thought they were thinking deeply | 14:40 |
| haleyb | my proxy in inside redhat, so noone probably noticed | 14:41 |
| mlavalle | which they usually do ;-) | 14:41 |
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| haleyb | i'm fine with this alias, if you're waiting for me | 14:44 |
| manjeets__ | ++ | 14:44 |
| mlavalle | haleyb: we were waiting for you | 14:44 |
| njohnston | ++ | 14:44 |
| * slaweq also had some vpn issues now :/ | 14:44 | |
| mlavalle | the only question is whether the submitter will pitch in with the implementation. If he doesn't, I'll take it up | 14:45 |
| slaweq | for me idea of this mirroring of calls and make them easier is good | 14:45 |
| * mlavalle writing comment in RFE | 14:45 | |
| slaweq | I don't think he will do it as he is workig on different things IIRC | 14:45 |
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| njohnston | It should be a pretty simple change | 14:47 |
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| * njohnston wonders if the old "low-hanging-fruit" tag is used anymore for changes that are good for more junior members | 14:48 | |
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| slaweq | njohnston++ | 14:48 |
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| slaweq | that could be good for someone new IMO :) | 14:48 |
| mlavalle | I assigned it to me already. If he wants to implement, he can change the assignment | 14:49 |
| njohnston | and in the neutron world the fruit is so often placed very, very high | 14:49 |
| manjeets__ | fruits and cakes are lie | 14:49 |
| mlavalle | slaweq, njohnston: you are making a good point. If he says he won't implement it, I will advertise it in the weekly meeting. If nobody steps up, then I'll take it | 14:50 |
| slaweq | mlavalle++ | 14:50 |
| mlavalle | Next one is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1785213 | 14:51 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1785213 in neutron "[RFE] Automatically allow incoming DHCP traffic for networks which uses external dhcp server" [Wishlist,Triaged] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq) | 14:51 |
| slaweq | yes, this one is mine :) | 14:51 |
| slaweq | should I explain it? | 14:53 |
| mlavalle | mhhh, it seems pretty clear to me | 14:53 |
| mlavalle | maybe answer some questions | 14:54 |
| slaweq | sure | 14:54 |
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| mlavalle | the subnets on that network, would become no-dhcp with that option? | 14:54 |
| haleyb | it seems straightforward to me too, and i had the same question ^^^ | 14:54 |
| slaweq | no, I was thinking that this would work only if enable_dhcp would be set to false | 14:55 |
| slaweq | or even differently | 14:55 |
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| slaweq | in fact this flag would be "equal" to configure proper security groups to allow dhcp traffic going from outside | 14:56 |
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| slaweq | so if that flag would be set such traffic would be allowed for all ports in network | 14:56 |
| njohnston | allowed regardless of security group settings? | 14:56 |
| slaweq | and ports then could accept dhcp responses from both internal and external dhcp server - depends on user | 14:56 |
| slaweq | njohnston: yes | 14:57 |
| slaweq | basically problem with using external dhcp server is that response from such server is blocked by default by SG | 14:57 |
| mlavalle | ahhh! | 14:57 |
| slaweq | it can be unblocked by adding proper SG rule | 14:57 |
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| slaweq | but it's not "user friendly" (at least I had such feedback) | 14:58 |
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| mlavalle | so just allowing the traffic from the external dhcp server, let the instance / user handle the response from external and internal | 14:58 |
| slaweq | mlavalle: yes | 14:58 |
| slaweq | dhcp traffic outgoing from instance is allowed always currently | 14:58 |
| slaweq | it's hardcoded | 14:58 |
| slaweq | but response will be blocked by default | 14:58 |
| mlavalle | we won't make a decision on it because we need another vote in this case, but I would add this clarification to the RFE | 14:59 |
| haleyb | do we want neutron dhcp running? would that cause a race? i.e. first answer wins ? | 14:59 |
| slaweq | haleyb: it may | 14:59 |
| haleyb | slaweq: and how would metadata work? | 14:59 |
| slaweq | but this flag would be by default disabled | 14:59 |
| slaweq | haleyb: metadata would not work in such case | 15:00 |
| mlavalle | ok, let's continue the discussion in the RFE | 15:00 |
| mlavalle | the relases guys will mad at us otherwise | 15:00 |
| smcginnis | :) | 15:00 |
| mlavalle | thanks for attending | 15:00 |
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| manjeets__ | thanks :) | 15:00 |
| mlavalle | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
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| slaweq | but it's for some specific use cases when user wants to connect his vms with some "legacy" hosts | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Fri Aug 31 15:00:31 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2018/neutron_drivers.2018-08-31-14.00.html | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2018/neutron_drivers.2018-08-31-14.00.txt | 15:00 |
| njohnston | does this assume the external existence of a dhcp_proxy or "ip helper" to encapsulate the DHCP broadcast and forward it to an external IP? Or does it's operation work differently based on network type i.e. provider networks work differently from tenant networks? | 15:00 |
| slaweq | thx | 15:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2018/neutron_drivers.2018-08-31-14.00.log.html | 15:00 |
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| slaweq | bye | 15:00 |
| smcginnis | #startmeeting releaseteam | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Fri Aug 31 15:00:56 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is smcginnis. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'releaseteam' | 15:01 |
| dhellmann | o/ | 15:01 |
| annabelleB | o/ | 15:01 |
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| ttx | o/ | 15:01 |
| smcginnis | I see Sigyn here, so not pinging the list. | 15:01 |
| ttx | wise | 15:02 |
| smcginnis | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/rocky-relmgt-tracking Agenda | 15:02 |
| smcginnis | All the way down to the bottom! | 15:02 |
| smcginnis | #topic Remaining release week process | 15:02 |
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| fungi | heh | 15:02 |
| smcginnis | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/598621/ Marking Stein as under development | 15:03 |
| smcginnis | I think that's the last step in getting the releases.o.o up to date. ^ | 15:03 |
| ttx | yep | 15:03 |
| smcginnis | ttx: Thanks for getting that one up there. I updated Rocky but didn't cover it all. | 15:04 |
| evrardjp | o/ | 15:04 |
| smcginnis | The other item listed on the etherpad was to notify openstack-dev. I took care of that one a couple hours ago. | 15:04 |
| smcginnis | Overall I think the release went well. We ended up with good timing with release jobs finishing right in time for annabelleB's webinar. | 15:05 |
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| smcginnis | Thanks everyone for helping get things through. | 15:05 |
| annabelleB | Thank YOU | 15:05 |
| ttx | Thanks to our fearless leader! | 15:06 |
| smcginnis | #topic 404s on Rocky release page | 15:06 |
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| smcginnis | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/vPBa2EDSdD | 15:06 |
| ttx | I transcripted the list on the meeting agenda | 15:06 |
| ttx | for clarity | 15:06 |
| smcginnis | OK, good. | 15:06 |
| smcginnis | #link https://review.openstack.org/598952 Skipping release-test for missing-releases | 15:07 |
| ttx | bgpvpn is the only "urgent" one | 15:07 |
| smcginnis | We still have a few without signatures. | 15:07 |
| ttx | the others we can add to teh Stein team plan | 15:07 |
| fungi | bgpvpn is fixed now, right? | 15:07 |
| smcginnis | Yep, I believe so. | 15:07 |
| * ttx checks | 15:07 | |
| smcginnis | After switching the job, that one passed. | 15:07 |
| fungi | we switched jobs and reenqeuued the tag | 15:08 |
| smcginnis | And my run of missing-releases this morning did not complain about anything. | 15:08 |
| fungi | i think it was after wine-thirty in france though so you missed the exciting conclusion | 15:08 |
| ttx | ok yes solved | 15:08 |
| smcginnis | They still have the dependency issues in their code, but the releases can now happen despite that. | 15:08 |
| ttx | Missing signatures for neutron-tempest-plugin ? | 15:08 |
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| dhellmann | can/should we generate signature files? or is it better to just leave those? | 15:09 |
| smcginnis | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/596907/ fixes tripleo-ui signing | 15:09 |
| fungi | it was running the python3 job which was missing the signing role. let me find the fix we merged | 15:09 |
| fungi | neutron-tempest-plugin i mean | 15:09 |
| ttx | ok | 15:09 |
| ttx | dhellmann: I'd say leave them out, and maybe have a the same skip-link flag be able to act on signatures only | 15:10 |
| smcginnis | I think dhellmann fixed up the jobs that were missing the signing. | 15:10 |
| dhellmann | I fixed 2 jobs; I don't know if that was all of them | 15:10 |
| dhellmann | ttx: yeah, that makes sense | 15:11 |
| smcginnis | At least all we've identified so far I think. | 15:11 |
| dhellmann | I will restore the story for that work | 15:11 |
| ttx | dhellmann: thx | 15:11 |
| fungi | huh, i'm not finding the patch for the python3 job | 15:11 |
| smcginnis | I see the notes for https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2001689 show it was closed as invalid. | 15:11 |
| smcginnis | dhellmann: OK, so you'll restore and we do want to list without linking? | 15:12 |
| ttx | "We can't remember why we want to do this instead of just removing the entry for the broken release, so I am going to close this as invalid." | 15:12 |
| dhellmann | smcginnis : yeah | 15:12 |
| smcginnis | OK, that sounds reasonable to me. | 15:12 |
| ttx | Now I remember why it's better | 15:12 |
| dhellmann | please leave a note on the story so we don't forget again :-) | 15:13 |
| ttx | which is that the history should match the tags, and we just unlink to things we could not generate | 15:13 |
| ttx | i.e. that version still exists, it just failed to generate artifacts | 15:13 |
| smcginnis | Makes sense. | 15:13 |
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| ttx | I think dhellmann's comment is clear enough | 15:14 |
| fungi | aha, found. linked in the pad now | 15:14 |
| ttx | Just added a quick comment | 15:15 |
| smcginnis | fungi: Thanks | 15:15 |
| smcginnis | Missing old releases - how old are these? | 15:15 |
| ttx | ok, all set then | 15:15 |
| ttx | They are just not the current one | 15:15 |
| smcginnis | OK | 15:15 |
| smcginnis | #topic AOB | 15:16 |
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| smcginnis | Ocata is now extended maintenance per the timeframe that was set for it. | 15:16 |
| smcginnis | Maybe that's something tonyb should announce officially? | 15:17 |
| smcginnis | Or I can. | 15:17 |
| ttx | yes I was thinking it needs to be communicated beyond taht yaml change | 15:17 |
| smcginnis | Seems like there should be some public declaration other than the releases page quietly updating. | 15:17 |
| ttx | if only to kick ext-maint people into next gear hopefully | 15:17 |
| smcginnis | Yeah | 15:17 |
| annabelleB | Ops list and such | 15:17 |
| ttx | not much happened on that front publicly lately | 15:17 |
| smcginnis | annabelleB: Good point, should probably be -dev and -ops. | 15:18 |
| smcginnis | While we have two lists, right fungi? :) | 15:18 |
| * ttx sighs briefly | 15:18 | |
| fungi | heh | 15:18 |
| fungi | cross-post-em while you got em | 15:18 |
| smcginnis | Maybe -announce too? | 15:18 |
| ttx | smcginnis: hmm, probably not | 15:19 |
| smcginnis | OK | 15:19 |
| ttx | It's not that big of a change, it's just the occasion to promote ext-maint a bit | 15:19 |
| ttx | you take the action ? | 15:19 |
| smcginnis | How about this - I'll wait and get input from tonyb, then one of us can decide to send out the announcement. | 15:19 |
| ttx | ++ | 15:19 |
| ttx | let's not approve that change in the meantime ? | 15:20 |
| smcginnis | Will anything change? I think that it is going to e-m is a done deal. Just a matter of who should communicate that. | 15:20 |
| ttx | added a note on it | 15:20 |
| ttx | It's just a convenient way to remember to do it :) | 15:20 |
| smcginnis | But we could hold until tonyb has a chance to ack it. | 15:20 |
| smcginnis | OK, meeting next week. | 15:21 |
| smcginnis | ttx: I assume you'll be traveling at that point. | 15:21 |
| ttx | I'll leave the next morning | 15:21 |
| ttx | Could use the extra time for packing | 15:21 |
| ttx | unless we expect to have something to discuss | 15:22 |
| smcginnis | And with the start of the new cycle and travel prep, it's a quiet time for activity. | 15:22 |
| dhellmann | seems like a good week to skip | 15:22 |
| smcginnis | I doubt we'll have anything, so I'm for skipping. | 15:22 |
| annabelleB | +1 | 15:22 |
| fungi | wfm | 15:22 |
| * smcginnis hits gavel | 15:22 | |
| smcginnis | No meeting next week. | 15:22 |
| fungi | oh, in other (forward-looking) news, the artifact signing key for stein has been generated and published and attested to by a the rocky signing key as well as a few infra sysadmins (with hopefully more to come). need to decide when we want it swapped into production | 15:22 |
| * dhellmann wants a gavel | 15:22 | |
| fungi | #link https://sks-keyservers.net/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=0x27023b1ffccd8e3ae9a5ce95d943d5d270273ada&fingerprint=on Stein Cycle Artifact Signing Key | 15:22 |
| smcginnis | fungi: Oh good. | 15:23 |
| smcginnis | Don't we usually swap around this point? | 15:23 |
| fungi | since there's no immediate end to cycle-trailing stuff any more, maybe we don't delay it significantly? | 15:23 |
| fungi | previously we waited a couple weeks for teh cycle-trailing releases to get through | 15:23 |
| smcginnis | Yeah, I think it would be a challenge now waiting for the trailing stuff. | 15:23 |
| ttx | since they have 3 months to do those | 15:24 |
| smcginnis | We stated we would give two months, so that already puts us well into stein activities. | 15:24 |
| fungi | okay, i'll whip up the patch to the releases repo and do the remainnig steps in our key replacement process | 15:24 |
| smcginnis | 2 or 3? Either way. | 15:24 |
| ttx | 6? | 15:24 |
| smcginnis | fungi: Thanks | 15:24 |
| smcginnis | Hah! | 15:24 |
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| smcginnis | Oh, last meeting for the rocky tracking etherpad. We should switch to the stein one now. | 15:25 |
| smcginnis | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/stein-relmgt-tracking | 15:25 |
| ttx | hhhhrm | 15:25 |
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| ttx | The release deadline for projects using the release:cycle-trailing model that follow the main release cycle is set to November 28, 2018. | 15:25 |
| smcginnis | fungi: I see either etherpad hasn't been upgraded or the undocumented highlighting feature is still there. | 15:25 |
| ttx | so... 3 | 15:26 |
| smcginnis | ttx: OK, then it is three months. | 15:26 |
| fungi | smcginnis: it's been upgraded. when did you see it happen? | 15:26 |
| smcginnis | Could have sworn it was 2, but either is fine. | 15:26 |
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| ttx | except that for Stein I think we got it wrong | 15:26 |
| fungi | i restarted the service late last night | 15:26 |
| ttx | "The release deadline for projects using the release:cycle-trailing model that follow the main release cycle is set to 13 June, 2019." | 15:26 |
| smcginnis | fungi: I just appended CANCELLED to the meeting line in the stein etherpad and it changed the whole line's highlighting. | 15:26 |
| ttx | that is 2 montsh | 15:26 |
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| fungi | huh, okay i wonder if something failed to apply the upgraded version | 15:27 |
| ttx | we might want to double-check which is right and fix | 15:27 |
| ttx | 3 months according to https://releases.openstack.org/reference/release_models.html#cycle-trailing | 15:27 |
| smcginnis | Should it be 2 or 3? I saw another place I missed the Wednesday vs Thursday final deadline, so I need to update the stein schedule anyway. I could fix that if it needs fixin. | 15:27 |
| dhellmann | ttx: yeah, the docs say 3 | 15:27 |
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| smcginnis | OK, I'll update it. | 15:27 |
| smcginnis | Anything else we need to cover today? | 15:28 |
| ttx | I wonder if those 2 months are hardcoded in the schedule generator or somethnig | 15:28 |
| smcginnis | I think I probably put it there thinking we had decided 2. | 15:28 |
| ttx | ah! | 15:28 |
| ttx | PEBKAC then | 15:29 |
| smcginnis | Yep | 15:29 |
| smcginnis | Where the problem usually lies. | 15:29 |
| smcginnis | OK, if that's all we can wrap up. | 15:30 |
| annabelleB | Thanks!! | 15:30 |
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| fungi | smcginnis: any chance you had that etherpad already up in your browser and simply reconnected rather than reloading the tab | 15:30 |
| smcginnis | Thanks again everyone for all your help over the last six months. I think it went really well. | 15:30 |
| fungi | ? | 15:31 |
| smcginnis | fungi: I don't think so, but maybe there's some caching issue and I need a hard refresh. | 15:31 |
| fungi | i'll keep digging, thanks! | 15:31 |
| smcginnis | OK, thanks everyone. Have a good weekend. | 15:31 |
| smcginnis | #endmeeting | 15:31 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Fri Aug 31 15:31:43 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:31 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2018/releaseteam.2018-08-31-15.00.html | 15:31 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2018/releaseteam.2018-08-31-15.00.txt | 15:31 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2018/releaseteam.2018-08-31-15.00.log.html | 15:31 |
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