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| ekcs | #startmeeting congressteammeeting | 02:32 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Fri Jul 20 02:32:17 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ekcs. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 02:32 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 02:32 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'congressteammeeting' | 02:32 |
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| ekcs | hi all. | 02:36 |
| ekcs | topics here as usual | 02:36 |
| ekcs | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/congress-meeting-topics | 02:36 |
| akhil_jain_ | ekcs: hi | 02:37 |
| ekcs | hi akhil_jain_ ! | 02:37 |
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| ekcs | ok let’s get started | 02:40 |
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| ekcs | #topic announcements | 02:40 |
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| ekcs | monasca client blockage resolved | 02:41 |
| ekcs | from the sphinx version change. | 02:41 |
| ekcs | had another gate breakage because of new osc-lib version causing monasca client to fail to load. | 02:42 |
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| ekcs | so I disabled the monasca tempest test in the mean time until a new monasca client version fixes the problem. | 02:43 |
| ekcs | that’s all for my announcements. anything else? | 02:43 |
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| ekcs | ok moving on then. | 02:47 |
| ekcs | #topic patches | 02:47 |
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| ekcs | want to point out a patch Pierre has been working on. it’s an alternative datalog engine for congress that would work alongside the standard datalog engine. still WIP at this point, but the hope is to get an experimental version merged next week. | 02:49 |
| ekcs | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/582625/ | 02:49 |
| patchbot | patch 582625 - congress - WIP: Z3 engine as an alternative Datalog engine | 02:49 |
| ekcs | nothing else from me at this point. | 02:51 |
| ekcs | trying to get everything ready for review for feature freeze next week. | 02:51 |
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| masahito | hello, sorry to be late. | 02:51 |
| ekcs | masahito: hello! np | 02:52 |
| ekcs | I was just pointing out a patch Pierre has been working on. | 02:52 |
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| masahito | got it. | 02:52 |
| ekcs | it’s an alternative datalog engine for congress that would work alongside the standard datalog engine. still WIP at this point, but the hope is to get an experimental version merged next week. maybe enabled by config option. | 02:52 |
| ekcs | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/582625/ | 02:53 |
| patchbot | patch 582625 - congress - WIP: Z3 engine as an alternative Datalog engine | 02:53 |
| ekcs | that’s all from me at this point. | 02:54 |
| ekcs | i’m also working on the implementation of the explicit types spec going along with the alternative engine. part 1 is ready for review. part 2 still wip. expecting to have that ready for review today hopefully. | 02:55 |
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| ekcs | anything else we’d like to talk about? | 02:56 |
| akhil_jain_ | ekcs: is z3 engine path ready to be tested or in progress? | 02:56 |
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| akhil_jain_ | patch* | 02:58 |
| ekcs | it’s not ready to merge, but it’s expected to be working so testable. | 02:58 |
| akhil_jain_ | ok I will go through z3 then | 02:59 |
| ekcs | Pierre has it working on his setup. | 02:59 |
| akhil_jain_ | i read commit message saying it requires setup | 03:00 |
| akhil_jain_ | of z3 | 03:00 |
| ekcs | I can ask pierre to upload the change to client which would also make it easier to test. | 03:00 |
| ekcs | oh yea that’s true. | 03:00 |
| ekcs | may not be worth the effort to go through all that right now. | 03:00 |
| akhil_jain_ | ok then will test after its ready | 03:01 |
| ekcs | cool! | 03:01 |
| ekcs | anything else to talk about? | 03:01 |
| akhil_jain_ | nothing from my side | 03:02 |
| masahito | nothing from my side. | 03:02 |
| ekcs | alright next time then! | 03:02 |
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| ekcs | have a great weekend! | 03:03 |
| akhil_jain_ | Bye! happy weekend! | 03:03 |
| ekcs | bye | 03:04 |
| ekcs | #endmeeting | 03:04 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Fri Jul 20 03:04:16 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 03:04 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2018/congressteammeeting.2018-07-20-02.32.html | 03:04 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2018/congressteammeeting.2018-07-20-02.32.txt | 03:04 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2018/congressteammeeting.2018-07-20-02.32.log.html | 03:04 |
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| masahito | bye | 03:06 |
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| mlavalle | #startmeeting neutron_drivers | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Fri Jul 20 14:00:05 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mlavalle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_drivers' | 14:00 |
| njohnston | o/ | 14:00 |
| mlavalle | hey njohnston | 14:00 |
| haleyb | hi | 14:00 |
| mlavalle | hi haleyb | 14:00 |
| mlavalle | ready for the beach? | 14:00 |
| njohnston | which beach are you going to? | 14:01 |
| mlavalle | Cape Cod, I think | 14:01 |
| haleyb | mlavalle: almost, have 8-10 softball games to get through first | 14:01 |
| amotoki | hi | 14:01 |
| mlavalle | how long is the drive? | 14:02 |
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| amotoki | is gooling Cape Cod. looks like a nice place | 14:02 |
| haleyb | mlavalle: beach is less than 2 hours | 14:02 |
| haleyb | we like it, been there almost every year in forever :) | 14:03 |
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| mlavalle | ok, let's get going | 14:03 |
| mlavalle | #topic RFEs | 14:03 |
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| mlavalle | First one for today is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1757044 | 14:04 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1757044 in neutron "[RFE] neutron L3 router gateway IP QoS" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to LIU Yulong (dragon889) | 14:04 |
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| mlavalle | We discussed it a few weeks ago and were pretty close to approve it. We decided to ask a few questions to improve our understanding of it | 14:04 |
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| amotoki | I am refreshing my memory. it sounds reasonable to apply QoS policy to an gateway port. | 14:08 |
| mlavalle | yes, I am for approving it | 14:08 |
| amotoki | a question is whether we apply QoS policy for the port or apply QoS policy to an gateway IP. | 14:08 |
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| amotoki | if we apply QoS policy to a gateway port, it raises another question (whether FIP traffic is included or not when considering QoS) | 14:09 |
| amotoki | anyway, it is a reasonable RFE. | 14:09 |
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| mlavalle | He has alsoo been working on the FIP QoS. So I think he is going to keep them separate | 14:11 |
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| mlavalle | haleyb: what do you think? | 14:12 |
| amotoki | is looking at his proposed reviews. I agree that he is thinking about per-IP QoS. | 14:12 |
| haleyb | mlavalle: i am fine with the RFE | 14:13 |
| * haleyb was trying to look at reviews too | 14:13 | |
| mlavalle | ok, let's move ahead with it | 14:13 |
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| yamamoto | hi, sorry late | 14:17 |
| mlavalle | The next one I want to discuss is out of order, but seems simple to me and we have code alredy in Gerrit: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1780370 | 14:17 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1780370 in neutron "[RFE] Replace the timer based periodic resync task of DHCP agents with an event driven one" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Kailun Qin (kailun.qin) | 14:17 |
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| mlavalle | welcome Takashi | 14:17 |
| mlavalle | This is the patch associated to it: https://review.openstack.org/580548 | 14:18 |
| patchbot | patch 580548 - neutron - Event driven periodic resync task for DHCP agents | 14:18 |
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| haleyb | mlavalle: there was a good point raised in the review about batching, which i did wonder about as well | 14:20 |
| mlavalle | yeah, I saw yamamoto's comment. I think we are looking for a middle ground, right? | 14:20 |
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| haleyb | you could get that with just reducing the retry interval as well... | 14:22 |
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| kailun | yeah, agree | 14:23 |
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| mlavalle | yes, that's good point | 14:23 |
| yamamoto | i guess it's fine to react on an event immediately as far as something ensures that it isn't too frequent. | 14:24 |
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| amotoki | I agree that we need a mechanism to ensure that it happens too frequently | 14:25 |
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| mlavalle | but we end up with a behavior that is equivalent to just redducing the resynch behavior, wouldn't we? | 14:25 |
| mlavalle | in that case, why add more coce? | 14:26 |
| mlavalle | code^^^ | 14:26 |
| kailun | the previous logic does not handle that neither since the interval is configurable | 14:26 |
| amotoki | yeah, tend to agree. | 14:26 |
| mlavalle | kailun: it is or it is not configurable? | 14:26 |
| amotoki | is there any actual problem when we use the default 5sec internal? | 14:26 |
| amotoki | (or with more smaller interval) | 14:27 |
| kailun | mlavalle: it is I think | 14:27 |
| mlavalle | so if it is configurable and the deployer reduces the re-synch period, wouldn't we get the same behavior as with event based resynch with a delaying mechanism? | 14:28 |
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| yamamoto | it depends on how frequent the event in question is | 14:29 |
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| yamamoto | if it's usually infrequent, we can react immediately in many cases | 14:30 |
| kailun | we should get a quite similar behavior but not exactly the same | 14:30 |
| haleyb | the l3-agent is different, using workers and a queue, and does a more immediate update | 14:30 |
| njohnston | Let's say there was an update for something that had not seen an update in a while. The proposed behavior would fire it immediately, whereas if the configured resync interval is 5s then it could be up to 4.9s before that gets propagated in the scheduled case, right? | 14:31 |
| haleyb | kailun: so this causes an immediate reaction to a network event, but if nothing happens still does a 5 second sync? | 14:31 |
| mlavalle | right | 14:31 |
| haleyb | that might have been the same question | 14:31 |
| kailun | yes, that should be the case | 14:32 |
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| kailun | the patch itself does not change the previous logic but adds with an immediate reaction to a network event if there is one | 14:33 |
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| amotoki | the current interval is controlled by self.conf.resync_interval, so the question is reducing resync_interval works or not. | 14:33 |
| amotoki | kailun: what happens if failure events happen continuously? | 14:34 |
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| kailun | that's a good question, as yamamoto's pointed out, a busy-loop I suppose | 14:35 |
| kailun | but the previous logic would end up in this as well if configured with a quite small interval | 14:37 |
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| amotoki | from RFE perspective, fast recovery would be nice. what I concern is the racing condition. | 14:41 |
| amotoki | I am not sure this needs to be discussed as RFE perspective. | 14:41 |
| mlavalle | in that case, let's just approve the RFE and discuss the details in Gerrit | 14:42 |
| yamamoto | +1 | 14:42 |
| mlavalle | amotoki, haleyb: you ok with this motion? | 14:43 |
| amotoki | I am okay with it | 14:43 |
| haleyb | mlavalle: sure, and i will remove the -W | 14:43 |
| * mlavalle approving int he RFE | 14:43 | |
| -amotoki- is trying to remember eventlet thread model in dhcp-agent now | 14:44 | |
| mlavalle | kailun: thank you very much for your proposal and code. Very much appreciated! | 14:45 |
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| kailun | mlavalle: sure, my pleasure :) | 14:46 |
| mlavalle | Next one is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1774463 | 14:46 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1774463 in neutron "RFE: Add support for IPv6 on DVR Routers for the Fast-path exit " [Wishlist,Triaged] | 14:46 |
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| mlavalle | I am ok with this RFE | 14:51 |
| mlavalle | what do others think? | 14:51 |
| yamamoto | i'm ok too | 14:52 |
| njohnston | makes sense to me | 14:52 |
| amotoki | does it mean "RA" is responded by a compute node? | 14:52 |
| haleyb | mlavalle: i am fine, just isn't a lot of info on the "how" | 14:52 |
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| amotoki | generally makes sense to me (if my understanding is right) though I would like ot know how it can be achieved. | 14:53 |
| haleyb | i can see how on egress IPv6 could be send directly, but ingress is harder (rfe is for exit) | 14:54 |
| amotoki | I think a case of prefix delegation also need to be considered. | 14:54 |
| mlavalle | we can ask clarifying questions from the author | 14:54 |
| mlavalle | direct him to this conversation and ask him to clarify | 14:55 |
| amotoki | can we cover this in the l3 meeting? | 14:55 |
| mlavalle | Swami usually attends the L3 meeting | 14:55 |
| mlavalle | and we can certainly cover it there | 14:55 |
| haleyb | yes, that might make sense | 14:55 |
| mlavalle | I have to say that he is on vacation the next two weeks | 14:56 |
| mlavalle | so yes, let's discuss in the next L3 meetings that he attends | 14:56 |
| haleyb | i'll add some questions to the bug too | 14:57 |
| mlavalle | haleyb: thanks! | 14:57 |
| mlavalle | ok, I think we ran out of time | 14:57 |
| mlavalle | Thanks for attending! | 14:57 |
| mlavalle | #endmeeting | 14:57 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Fri Jul 20 14:57:52 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:57 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2018/neutron_drivers.2018-07-20-14.00.html | 14:57 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2018/neutron_drivers.2018-07-20-14.00.txt | 14:57 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2018/neutron_drivers.2018-07-20-14.00.log.html | 14:57 |
| amotoki | thanks | 14:58 |
| yamamoto | thank you | 14:58 |
| mlavalle | haleyb: have fun | 14:58 |
| haleyb | mlavalle: thanks | 14:58 |
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| smcginnis | #startmeeting releaseteam | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Fri Jul 20 15:00:33 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is smcginnis. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'releaseteam' | 15:00 |
| smcginnis | Ping list: dhellmann, dims, fungi, tonyb, lbragstad, ttx, armstrong, annabelleB | 15:00 |
| armstrong | Hello | 15:00 |
| ttx | o/ | 15:00 |
| armstrong | o/ | 15:00 |
| smcginnis | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/rocky-relmgt-tracking | 15:01 |
| smcginnis | Looks like we are down to around line 383 | 15:01 |
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| annabelleB | o/ | 15:01 |
| smcginnis | Mr dhellmann, paging Mr dhellmann. | 15:03 |
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| dhellmann | o/ | 15:04 |
| smcginnis | \o/ | 15:04 |
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| smcginnis | #topic dealing with branching cycle-with-intermediary changes with unreleased content | 15:04 |
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| smcginnis | dhellmann: That sounds like fun. :) | 15:04 |
| * dhellmann thinks we have different ideas of fun | 15:04 | |
| smcginnis | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-July/132204.html | 15:04 |
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| dhellmann | we had a couple of projects that only had CI changes | 15:05 |
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| dhellmann | there wouldn't be any real reason to release for those, except that if we branch before the changes the stable branch may be immediately broken | 15:05 |
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| dhellmann | or could be, at any rate | 15:06 |
| dhellmann | so I think we ought to go ahead and tag a release to use for the branch point | 15:06 |
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| dhellmann | smcginnis : how many of those still don't have releases today? | 15:06 |
| smcginnis | That makes senese to me. | 15:06 |
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| smcginnis | I added some of that output in the etherpad. Just two libs and some flagged as "other". | 15:07 |
| ttx | should requestsexceptions really be tied to cycle ? | 15:07 |
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| smcginnis | That kind of seems independent. | 15:07 |
| dhellmann | mordred : ^^ | 15:07 |
| dhellmann | those items with type "other" have until the final release deadline to tag a release, right? | 15:08 |
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| mordred | yes - it should be independent | 15:09 |
| smcginnis | I was going to ask about that. Some of them actually do seem like non-client libs, so not really sure. | 15:09 |
| mordred | it almost never changes | 15:09 |
| mordred | (requestsexceptions) | 15:09 |
| mordred | I don't tihnk requestsexceptions has had a substantive change in a few years | 15:09 |
| dhellmann | ok, I can move requestsexceptions to independent | 15:09 |
| smcginnis | mordred: Thanks, that makes sense. | 15:10 |
| ttx | maybe post a 1.4.1 release request while at it | 15:10 |
| smcginnis | #link http://paste.openstack.org/show/726351/ Non-client lib unreleased commits | 15:10 |
| smcginnis | Just ran that this morning ^^ | 15:10 |
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| dhellmann | ttx: the only change is to tox | 15:10 |
| smcginnis | * 76c6344 2018-06-12 01:14:20 +0800 fix tox python3 overrides | 15:11 |
| armstrong | @smcginnis is this the current model used by project? cycle-with-intermediary | 15:11 |
| smcginnis | Can probably just move it from rocky to _independent and wait until something more substantial gets merged. | 15:11 |
| ttx | ok | 15:11 |
| dhellmann | #link make requestsexceptions independent https://review.openstack.org/584417 | 15:11 |
| patchbot | patch 584417 - releases - make requestsexceptions independent | 15:11 |
| smcginnis | armstrong: By requestsexception? | 15:11 |
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| armstrong | yes | 15:12 |
| ttx | looks like we haven't had oslo releases for a while ? | 15:12 |
| smcginnis | armstrong: That one is set with "release-model: cycle-with-intermediary", but it doesn't really have a tie in to specific cycles. | 15:12 |
| smcginnis | ttx: There were a few yesterday afternoon. | 15:12 |
| armstrong | ok i see , thx | 15:13 |
| smcginnis | ttx: Are you looking at dhellmann's post from last week or my paste from today? | 15:13 |
| ttx | your paste | 15:13 |
| dhellmann | futurist needs a new tag | 15:13 |
| ttx | I guess those releases are not trigger for trivial/CI changes | 15:13 |
| smcginnis | armstrong: Here's where that's set: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/releases/tree/deliverables/rocky/requestsexceptions.yaml#n3 | 15:13 |
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| smcginnis | But to dhellmann's point, maybe we should still tag those before they are branched? | 15:14 |
| armstrong | @smcginnis ok let me take a look at it | 15:14 |
| ttx | osc-placement and neutron-lib need new releases too, but may qualify as late libs since they carry things that used to just be in their consuming projects | 15:15 |
| smcginnis | I checked on those this morning. | 15:15 |
| smcginnis | osc-placement is actually miscategorized. | 15:16 |
| smcginnis | It is a plugin for osc, so that should really be a client lib. Melanie will change that along with doing the release next week. | 15:16 |
| ttx | sahara-extra is really not a lib | 15:17 |
| ttx | same for tosca-parser | 15:17 |
| smcginnis | I've asked mlavalle to take a look at ovsdbapp, but probably should have also pointed out neutron-lib has a few things. | 15:17 |
| ttx | ovsdbapp, not sure | 15:17 |
| dhellmann | looks like oslo.reports could use a release, but there's a "remove deprecated" change in there and it feels late to be doing that | 15:17 |
| mlavalle | smcginnis: we released neutron-lib this week | 15:18 |
| ttx | dhellmann: it might be usage BY THE LIB of a deprecated option somewhere else | 15:18 |
| * ttx digs | 15:18 | |
| dhellmann | bnemec: ^^ | 15:18 |
| smcginnis | mlavalle: Looks like there were a couple commits sense then that look interesting. | 15:18 |
| ttx | dhellmann: looks like it https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/oslo.reports/commit/?id=884cee9f683ad3023ccffada4dbe1c1773cbbd40 | 15:18 |
| smcginnis | mlavalle: http://paste.openstack.org/show/726351/ line 145. | 15:18 |
| smcginnis | mlavalle: If those are work already for stein then that's fine. Just want to make sure nothing is missed. | 15:19 |
| dhellmann | ttx: so a doc change | 15:19 |
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| ttx | yeah | 15:19 |
| ttx | dhellmann, smcginnis: what's your take on neutron-lib ? | 15:20 |
| ttx | oh, dsicussion in parallel | 15:20 |
| ttx | ignore me | 15:20 |
| smcginnis | ttx: :) | 15:20 |
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| ttx | I'd argue ovsdbapp should be 'other' | 15:21 |
| ttx | same for sahara-extra and tosca-parser | 15:22 |
| smcginnis | I don't know enough about that deliverable. What makes those "other"? | 15:22 |
| * ttx checks requirements | 15:22 | |
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| ttx | smcginnis: the fact that they are not a lib | 15:22 |
| ttx | nor a service | 15:22 |
| ttx | nor a horizon-plugin etc. | 15:22 |
| smcginnis | What are they? | 15:22 |
| smcginnis | Rico proposed the tosca-parser release just moments ago, btw. | 15:23 |
| ttx | hmm tosca-parser is a lib. or at least it's usable as a lib | 15:23 |
| ttx | same for ovsdbapp | 15:23 |
| ttx | shara-extra contains a bunch of tools used by sahara | 15:24 |
| smcginnis | Yeah, the repo description for ovsdbapp actually calls it a library. | 15:24 |
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| ttx | I'll propose a change to other-ify sahara-extra | 15:25 |
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| ttx | #link other-ify sahara-extra: https://review.openstack.org/584422 | 15:27 |
| dhellmann | do we want to go ahead and have releases for those other deliverables? | 15:27 |
| patchbot | patch 584422 - releases - sahara-extra is not a library | 15:27 |
| smcginnis | dhellmann: Do you think we need to update PROCESS to call out forcing releases before branching? | 15:27 |
| dhellmann | I thought we did say we would do that, let me look at what we wrote | 15:28 |
| ttx | So the only one left is ovsdbapp ? | 15:28 |
| smcginnis | ttx: Yep, and mlavalle was going to check on that. | 15:28 |
| ttx | ok | 15:29 |
| ttx | smcginnis: oh and we need to fix osc-placement as well | 15:29 |
| smcginnis | dhellmann: Yes, but to your meeting topic - I thought the question was whether to call out doing that earlier for these non-client libs. | 15:29 |
| smcginnis | ttx: melwitt is going to do that with its release next week. | 15:29 |
| ttx | ack | 15:29 |
| ttx | #info osc-placement is miscategorized, that will be fixed by melwitt when she asks for release next week. | 15:30 |
| ttx | #info ovsdbapp needs a release to catch latest change, mlavalle is going to look into it | 15:30 |
| dhellmann | smcginnis : the only things I'm finding talk about projects with no changes | 15:30 |
| dhellmann | for example, step 5 in https://releases.openstack.org/reference/process.html#between-milestone-3-and-rc1 | 15:30 |
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| dhellmann | these are projects with CI changes, and since we only branch from tags, I think that means we need to force tags for them | 15:31 |
| dhellmann | so yes, I think we need to update the process to say that at the appropriate points | 15:31 |
| smcginnis | I agree. | 15:31 |
| dhellmann | I can work on that patch today | 15:31 |
| smcginnis | Anyone else have any opinions on this? Sounds like a good plan to me. | 15:32 |
| ttx | wfm | 15:32 |
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| ttx | I doublechecked the list again and I think we covered everything | 15:33 |
| smcginnis | OK, my topic kind of melded with this one. Anything else as far as the release status before we move on? | 15:33 |
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| ttx | we should still review the unreleased stuff | 15:34 |
| ttx | line 392+ | 15:34 |
| smcginnis | #topic Release status | 15:34 |
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| smcginnis | So we have the two library ones, cmw and requestexception. | 15:35 |
| smcginnis | The latter being moved to independent. | 15:35 |
| ttx | cmw had no release at all | 15:35 |
| smcginnis | Ceilometermiddleware being ceilometer, not sure what we want to do there other than just force the branching and move on. :/ | 15:35 |
| smcginnis | There are only two commits merged, neither functional changes. | 15:36 |
| dhellmann | that tox change will have an impact on the pep8 job | 15:36 |
| dhellmann | so we should probably tag and branch from there | 15:36 |
| smcginnis | I can put up a patch for that. | 15:37 |
| dhellmann | ok | 15:37 |
| smcginnis | #action smcginnis to request tag and branch for openstack/ceilometermiddleware | 15:37 |
| ttx | yes, there were some changes so we need to tag | 15:37 |
| smcginnis | That's it for the library ones. I also included the other category. | 15:37 |
| ttx | "6. For stable libraries that did not have any change merged over the | 15:37 |
| ttx | cycle, create a stable branch from the last available release. | 15:38 |
| ttx | "requirements" sounds like it should not be there | 15:38 |
| dhellmann | requirements does have a library or tool or something that they release | 15:38 |
| dhellmann | I'm not sure what actually uses it. | 15:39 |
| dhellmann | #link https://review.openstack.org/584425 document another reason to force tags on intermediary projects | 15:39 |
| patchbot | patch 584425 - releases - document another reason to force tags on intermedi... | 15:39 |
| smcginnis | ttx: Should we update bullet 6 there to state that merged changes should be tagged before creating that stable branch? | 15:39 |
| smcginnis | Oh, nevermind, dhellmann's patch does just that. | 15:39 |
| ttx | looks like requirements end up being tagged | 15:40 |
| ttx | but that will definitely happen later | 15:40 |
| ttx | it's tagless actually | 15:40 |
| smcginnis | IIRC, requirements and tempest are in our process for end of cycle activities. | 15:41 |
| ttx | smcginnis: for those, I think we just need to remind the PTLs to remember to make a release | 15:41 |
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| dhellmann | ttx: tagless means we can branch from anywhere, but the tools in the requirements repo do get version tags | 15:41 |
| ttx | those being lines 396+ | 15:41 |
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| ttx | they still have some time | 15:42 |
| dhellmann | https://pypi.org/project/openstack-requirements/ | 15:42 |
| smcginnis | I mostly included other just so we are aware of what is in that category and we've at least looked it over to see if there were issues. But I agree there's some time yet on those. | 15:42 |
| ttx | all good | 15:42 |
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| smcginnis | Based on the lack of proper formatting for requirements on pypi, looks like that readme may need some fixing. | 15:43 |
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| dhellmann | yeah | 15:43 |
| ttx | next topic ? | 15:43 |
| smcginnis | Sure... | 15:44 |
| smcginnis | #topic PTL election | 15:44 |
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| smcginnis | Self nomination starts next week. | 15:44 |
| smcginnis | Since ttx and dhellmann are off being very busy with other things now, I'm assuming I'm going to have to break the yearly pattern and extend that unless someone else is ready to step in. | 15:45 |
| dhellmann | I'm not sure I would have time to be PTL and drive the python3 work I have planned next cycle | 15:46 |
| dhellmann | unless that all goes much more smoothly than I anticipate :-) | 15:46 |
| smcginnis | dhellmann: Yeah, I think you have your plate full with other work. | 15:46 |
| ttx | I'd rather not take it back right now unless you really can't do it :) | 15:46 |
| ttx | Also the real test is next week | 15:46 |
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| smcginnis | I'm fine continuing. I wasn't originally planning on it, but I think things have settled with zuul migrations and automation to the point that it's really not a big deal anymore. | 15:47 |
| ttx | #agreed | 15:47 |
| dhellmann | I'll be on deck to deal with any disruption we cause in packaging for the python3 work | 15:47 |
| smcginnis | OK, unless anyone is sitting in the back of the room secretly wanting to jump up, I'll propose myself next week and plan on going again for Stein. | 15:48 |
| dhellmann | thanks, smcginnis | 15:49 |
| ttx | thanks, fearless leader! | 15:49 |
| dhellmann | maybe we can spend a bit of time focusing on recruiting next cycle, too | 15:49 |
| smcginnis | Hah, no problem. :) | 15:49 |
| * dims waves from the back of the room | 15:49 | |
| * dhellmann wonders who "dims" is. the name is vaguely familiar. | 15:49 | |
| smcginnis | Yeah, not sure what to do about that, but that will be a goal of mine for stein so we're not in the same situation for T. | 15:49 |
| dims | LOL :) | 15:50 |
| smcginnis | dims: o/ :) | 15:50 |
| smcginnis | #topic Next week's activities | 15:50 |
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| smcginnis | ttx: Looks like you're putting the process info in the etherpad? | 15:50 |
| ttx | yes | 15:50 |
| dhellmann | smcginnis : maybe we can get some of the release liaisons to start helping with reviews. We might have to force that by saying that releases have to be reviewed by another liaison before they're approved. | 15:50 |
| smcginnis | dhellmann: Not sure if that will fly, but we could certainly try it. | 15:51 |
| ttx | smcginnis: (8) is not urgent, i can do it when back | 15:51 |
| dhellmann | something to think about, anyway | 15:51 |
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| dhellmann | hmm, step 1 there looks a bit out of date after our "stable" discussions | 15:51 |
| smcginnis | I think we can still try to do step 1, but knowing we will force it afterwards if no response? | 15:52 |
| ttx | smcginnis: everything else should be clear enough ? | 15:52 |
| smcginnis | I would still prefer that we aren't the ones initiating that tagging. | 15:52 |
| smcginnis | ttx: Yeah, all steps are pretty straight forward. I don't anticipate any issues next week. | 15:53 |
| ttx | You can coordinate (2) with prometheanfire | 15:53 |
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| ttx | the rest is more about PTL comms | 15:53 |
| smcginnis | I think he plans on doing that step but will confirm and follow up. | 15:53 |
| ttx | "oh, btw, remember you're technically frozen now" | 15:53 |
| smcginnis | And I think I have most of the comms stuff queued up in the draft for the next countdown. | 15:53 |
| smcginnis | I will double check that though before sending it out. | 15:54 |
| smcginnis | Or maybe that warrants its own post just to make sure it's visible. | 15:54 |
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| smcginnis | Or both. | 15:54 |
| ttx | I'll move that etherpad block to the Tasks section of the next week then | 15:55 |
| smcginnis | Good, I was thinking about doing that. | 15:55 |
| smcginnis | Anything else on this? 5 minutes left. | 15:55 |
| ttx | I guess no meeting next week ? | 15:55 |
| smcginnis | annabelleB, armstrong: Do you see any need for a meeting next week? | 15:55 |
| annabelleB | not that I can think of? I’ll be out Aug 3 fwiw, but I can catch up when I’m back on the 6th/RC1 time | 15:56 |
| smcginnis | annabelleB: OK, cool,. | 15:56 |
| smcginnis | Yeah, I'll skip the meeting next week then. | 15:57 |
| smcginnis | #topic Open discussion | 15:57 |
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| smcginnis | Anything else in the final minutes? | 15:57 |
| dhellmann | nothing from me | 15:58 |
| smcginnis | OK, thanks everyone. Safe travels dhellmann and ttx | 15:58 |
| annabelleB | thanks smcginnis! | 15:58 |
| smcginnis | #endmeeting | 15:59 |
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