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| zhiyuan | hi | 01:06 |
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| xuzhuang | hi | 01:08 |
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| zhiyuan | #startmeeting tricircle | 01:08 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jul 11 01:08:52 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is zhiyuan. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 01:08 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 01:08 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tricircle' | 01:08 |
| zhiyuan | the milestone 3 of rocky is around july 23-27 | 01:09 |
| song__ | good | 01:09 |
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| zhiyuan | I am going to make a tag around that period | 01:10 |
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| song__ | yeah | 01:11 |
| zhiyuan | can part of the new l3 networking model be landed in milestone 3? | 01:12 |
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| xuzhuang | Now I have completed the basic part of the segment creation, the work of setting gateway and config route will need more time | 01:15 |
| zhiyuan | then we can finish the basic part first. what about the UT? | 01:16 |
| xuzhuang | "Unable to create the network. The VLAN 2016 on physical network bridge is in use." I don't understand why creating net when I create a new segment | 01:18 |
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| zhiyuan | the error is raised in "create_network"? | 01:19 |
| xuzhuang | in this line File "/home/zuul/src/git.openstack.org/openstack/tricircle/tricircle/tests/unit/network/test_segment_plugin.py", line 224, in test_create_segment | 01:20 |
| xuzhuang | fake_plugin.create_segment(neutron_context, segment1) | 01:20 |
| zhiyuan | i think create_segment willl trigger a notification | 01:23 |
| zhiyuan | the error is raised in a callback | 01:23 |
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| xuzhuang | yeah, so I think there are two choices. One is rewriting create_segment don't call notify, anther is repairing local plugin | 01:28 |
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| zhiyuan | i am a bit confused that why in the test a network is created before creating the segment | 01:35 |
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| zhiyuan | what about directly creating a new segment? | 01:36 |
| xuzhuang | I refer the docs of routed network. https://docs.openstack.org/ocata/networking-guide/config-routed-networks.html | 01:37 |
| zhiyuan | if I am correct, in the doc, the network is created with a segment, then a second segment is created on that network | 01:40 |
| xuzhuang | yes | 01:40 |
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| zhiyuan | while in your test, a network is created, then the first segment, the second segment | 01:41 |
| xuzhuang | yes | 01:41 |
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| zhiyuan | so the first segment is conflict with the network, you use the same VLAN ID2016 | 01:42 |
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| xuzhuang | in the docs network and segment should use same VLAN id, | 01:44 |
| zhiyuan | in the doc, segment is created during network creation | 01:44 |
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| zhiyuan | that is to say, a segment is first created, then use the segment to create the network | 01:45 |
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| zhiyuan | in your test, a network is first created(the 2016 VLAN is allocated), the you again use VLAN 2016 to create a segment | 01:46 |
| xuzhuang | oh, I got it | 01:47 |
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| zhiyuan | by the way, you use the same VLAN for segment1 and segment2, this will also causes conflict | 01:50 |
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| xuzhuang | I think they don't conflict. In the routed network docs, they created segment1 and segment2 using same vlan id 2016 | 01:52 |
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| zhiyuan | i see | 01:54 |
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| zhiyuan | so I think you can try creating the network without specifying VLAN | 01:57 |
| zhiyuan | then create the two segments | 01:57 |
| xuzhuang | ok, I will have a try. | 01:58 |
| zhiyuan | fine | 01:59 |
| zhiyuan | other topic? | 01:59 |
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| xuzhuang | no topic from me | 02:00 |
| Yipei | no | 02:01 |
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| zhiyuan | ok | 02:01 |
| zhiyuan | #endmeeting | 02:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jul 11 02:01:56 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 02:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tricircle/2018/tricircle.2018-07-11-01.08.html | 02:02 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tricircle/2018/tricircle.2018-07-11-01.08.txt | 02:02 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tricircle/2018/tricircle.2018-07-11-01.08.log.html | 02:02 |
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| mattoliverau | Anyone around for the fc sig meeting? | 08:01 |
| mattoliverau | diablo_rojo_phon: is absent this evening. | 08:02 |
| cmurphy | I'm sort of around | 08:02 |
| mattoliverau | cmurphy: hopefully or hacking on something awesome | 08:03 |
| mattoliverau | gmann: you here? | 08:03 |
| mattoliverau | I don't think there is much too say | 08:03 |
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| mattoliverau | but if it's only us we could skip the meeting | 08:03 |
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| cmurphy | wfm | 08:03 |
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| mattoliverau | only thing to note is diablo_rojo_phon did send off the email and she has a link to start gathering info for the forum. All is mentioned on the wiki. | 08:04 |
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| mattoliverau | Oh and thers is the very basic placeholder patch I pushed up.. which is really just a bunch of notes from the etherpad pages. | 08:06 |
| mattoliverau | kk. Well seems it's just me and a sort of around cmurphy. So let's skip today, not going to bother starting then stopping the meeting. | 08:07 |
| gmann | o/ | 08:07 |
| gmann | sorry for late | 08:07 |
| mattoliverau | gmann: that's ok. | 08:07 |
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| mattoliverau | ok then how about we run through the meeting.. really quickly so there are at least logs :) | 08:08 |
| gmann | ok | 08:08 |
| mattoliverau | #startmeeting fc_sig | 08:08 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jul 11 08:08:28 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mattoliverau. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:08 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 08:08 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'fc_sig' | 08:08 |
| mattoliverau | #topic New Contributor Patches | 08:08 |
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| mattoliverau | I had a look through them today. And poked 3 or 4 of the new ones. (Ie added a liasion as a reviewer, left a review saying so etc.) | 08:09 |
| gmann | nice. | 08:09 |
| mattoliverau | not much else to add. | 08:09 |
| mattoliverau | I saw a neutron one that gmann you talked in, so it's getting some love, so great :) | 08:10 |
| gmann | i added few last week but they have note reviewed:) | 08:10 |
| mattoliverau | well we can only do what we can do. maybe we'll need an action item to relook at ones that haven't had movement from the reviewers we've added. | 08:11 |
| gmann | which one? | 08:11 |
| gmann | yea, i am aso not sure pinging on IRC also should we do? | 08:11 |
| gmann | but there are not much reply from author also sometime like- https://review.openstack.org/#/c/576910/ | 08:11 |
| mattoliverau | oh yeah that one. and your right no response | 08:12 |
| mattoliverau | I don't see any extra reviewers added, | 08:12 |
| gmann | but yeah as you said, that only we can do and enough for active contributors i think | 08:12 |
| gmann | yea, do not wan to ask for review for pep8 error patch | 08:12 |
| mattoliverau | I add one, and then ping them on irc (if I can) with a heads up. but that doesn't mean it'll work :P | 08:13 |
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| mattoliverau | lol, yeah true | 08:13 |
| mattoliverau | lets move on :) | 08:13 |
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| mattoliverau | #topic Ask.openstack.org Contribution Questions | 08:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Ask.openstack.org Contribution Questions (Meeting topic: fc_sig)" | 08:13 | |
| ianychoi | oh I have been confused the date - I am online now fortunately :) | 08:14 |
| mattoliverau | ianychoi: o/ | 08:14 |
| mattoliverau | welcome | 08:14 |
| ianychoi | Thank u, mattoliverau :) | 08:14 |
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| gmann | did not find any new query on that. | 08:14 |
| mattoliverau | so I didn't see anything new on the normal tags we search for. | 08:14 |
| gmann | yeah | 08:14 |
| mattoliverau | yeah me either. | 08:14 |
| mattoliverau | I did search for beginner and newbie which brought up some newer questions (though those words weren't tagged). So maybe they're ok. | 08:15 |
| mattoliverau | I'll do more digging. I only really tried them quickly a few minutes ago :P | 08:16 |
| gmann | ohk | 08:16 |
| mattoliverau | ok, so their the standing topics. | 08:16 |
| mattoliverau | it's good we keep checking them, even if they don't always yield results | 08:17 |
| mattoliverau | it'll be the one time we don't when we miss someone :P | 08:17 |
| gmann | yeah | 08:17 |
| mattoliverau | Let's move the other items. | 08:17 |
| mattoliverau | #topic Berlin Planning | 08:17 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Berlin Planning (Meeting topic: fc_sig)" | 08:17 | |
| mattoliverau | diablo_rojo_phon: as gone and created an etherpad page for us to gather thoughts. | 08:18 |
| mattoliverau | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/FC_SIG_BER_Planning | 08:18 |
| mattoliverau | Not much there at the moment. So if you can think of things we should talk about or what ever so add ideas. | 08:19 |
| gmann | i will add the idea i talked about in previous meeting. | 08:19 |
| mattoliverau | nice :) | 08:19 |
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| mattoliverau | not much more to say on it, we can leave it a week and hopefully at the next meeting there will be cool ideas there ;) | 08:20 |
| ianychoi | Is there some planning Etherpad for Denver PTG? | 08:20 |
| gmann | but deadline is before next meeting ? | 08:20 |
| gmann | ianychoi: not yet. | 08:21 |
| mattoliverau | ianychoi: that I don't know. we could create one. Or even find time in the hallway track to meet and do stuff | 08:21 |
| ianychoi | gmann, the deadline is for technical sessions and we can add Forum topics later | 08:21 |
| mattoliverau | the ops will be there so maybe we could try? | 08:21 |
| * gmann it is confusing that PTG is first or summit as deadline for summit is before PTG :( | 08:21 | |
| ianychoi | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-June/131881.html | 08:22 |
| ianychoi | I am asking since I saw First Contact SIG on Tuesday: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/attachments/20180628/bb5c0e18/attachment-0001.png | 08:22 |
| gmann | yea, along with forum we were thinking to add presentation session proposal also if any | 08:22 |
| mattoliverau | cool, I haven't really be following the PTG prep this time round because I wont make it :( | 08:23 |
| gmann | for PTG, i think we have time to plan. i have not started for QA also yet | 08:23 |
| gmann | mattoliverau: oh and in summit? | 08:23 |
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| mattoliverau | gmann: not sure yet. we'll see. I might have to go propose a presentation though just in case :) | 08:24 |
| ianychoi | Aha.. I see. I start to make my plan to go to Denver PTG only for Mon&Tue but not sure right now for Berlin Summit | 08:24 |
| mattoliverau | depends on when the baby comes and how the wife is doing etc. | 08:24 |
| gmann | i see | 08:24 |
| gmann | ianychoi: +1 | 08:24 |
| ianychoi | gmann, thanks :) | 08:25 |
| mattoliverau | It doesn't hurt having an etherpad for the PTG. so maybe we should create one too. worst case, it stays empty | 08:25 |
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| gmann | +1 | 08:25 |
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| mattoliverau | cool. I'll go create on and add it to the wiki :) | 08:26 |
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| gmann | nice, thanks | 08:26 |
| mattoliverau | #action mattoliverau to create a PTG etherpad for FC sig | 08:26 |
| mattoliverau | cool, let's move on | 08:27 |
| mattoliverau | #topic Reqs for Organisations Contributing to OpenStack | 08:27 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Reqs for Organisations Contributing to OpenStack (Meeting topic: fc_sig)" | 08:27 | |
| mattoliverau | So I pushed a placeholder patch and added a bunch of notes I pulled from the etherpads. it needs alot of work, collaboration and discussion | 08:28 |
| mattoliverau | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/578676/ | 08:28 |
| mattoliverau | I should probably go look at the comments | 08:28 |
| ianychoi | mattoliverau, thanks a lot for nice initiation :) | 08:28 |
| gmann | i again forgot to review this. i will do before our next meeting | 08:29 |
| mattoliverau | diablo_rojo_phon: added a bunch of other reviewers and fungi sent an email around to gain more circulation | 08:29 |
| mattoliverau | ianychoi: thanks :) | 08:30 |
| mattoliverau | So if people can review it and help pad out the content that would be awesome :) | 08:30 |
| mattoliverau | Some of the older links to the other peices of information about it is on our wiki page. | 08:31 |
| * cmurphy finally added some comments | 08:31 | |
| mattoliverau | cmurphy: thanks! | 08:31 |
| mattoliverau | I honestly forgot all about it, even though I pushed it. So I need to loop back round and do my bit too | 08:32 |
| mattoliverau | ok, next topic | 08:32 |
| mattoliverau | #topic Project Liaisons | 08:32 |
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| mattoliverau | diablo_rojo_phon completed her action item and sent out the follow up email about the PTLs have now been added to the liason list. | 08:33 |
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| mattoliverau | if they want to change it, that need to nominate someone :) | 08:33 |
| gmann | yeah | 08:33 |
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| mattoliverau | We are still missing a bunch of timezone information on many of them though. so if you know where a PTL lives then feel free to update the list. | 08:34 |
| mattoliverau | unless you don't wnat them to know you've stalking them.. then I understand :P | 08:34 |
| gmann | :) | 08:35 |
| cmurphy | i think it would be good for the ptls to add that info themselves as an acknowledgement that they're aware they're on the list | 08:35 |
| mattoliverau | cmurphy: oohh thats a great idea! | 08:35 |
| mattoliverau | cmurphy: this is why your on the board, you think good ;) | 08:36 |
| * cmurphy not on a board | 08:36 | |
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| mattoliverau | sorry the TC | 08:36 |
| mattoliverau | council or whatever we call it | 08:36 |
| mattoliverau | see, that's why I'm not, I don't know proper words :P | 08:36 |
| cmurphy | :) | 08:37 |
| mattoliverau | I think it's a great idea, so let's see what diablo_rojo_phon thinks. Maybe another email in a week or so is required :) | 08:38 |
| cmurphy | sounds good | 08:38 |
| mattoliverau | cool. So that gets us to the end of the agenda. So let's move to | 08:38 |
| mattoliverau | #topic open discussion | 08:39 |
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| mattoliverau | anything else anyone wants to bring up? | 08:39 |
| gmann | nothing from me | 08:39 |
| mattoliverau | ianychoi: how was the OUI in South Korea? | 08:39 |
| mattoliverau | ever since seeing pictures, I have a craving for bulgogi. And this small beach town is missing good korean food :( | 08:41 |
| mattoliverau | maybe I need to go visit a bigger city soon | 08:42 |
| ianychoi | mattoliverau, great :) but because of my lazy advertisement, there were only about 15 participants but very nice :) | 08:42 |
| ianychoi | There have been feedback from 4 people and they said more time (1.5 days) or deep-dive topics would be great | 08:42 |
| mattoliverau | great! 15 is still people. And I heard there was someone interested in Swift. So hopefully I'll see a patch or get a chance to introduce myself to them soon ;) | 08:43 |
| mattoliverau | fair enough | 08:43 |
| ianychoi | mattoliverau, oh definitely - thanks a lot :) | 08:43 |
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| mattoliverau | and we are almost in the same timezone so I should always be around when they are. | 08:44 |
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| mattoliverau | ianychoi: thanks for putting so much effort in. | 08:44 |
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| mattoliverau | Anything else before we close the meeting? | 08:44 |
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| ianychoi | #action ianychoi will review more on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/579104/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/579089/ | 08:45 |
| ianychoi | Nothing more from me :) | 08:45 |
| mattoliverau | ianychoi: nice | 08:46 |
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| * mattoliverau wishes the swift channel's patchbot was here. It prints the first line of the commit message when someone pastes in a patch link. I'm now too spoiled by it :P | 08:47 | |
| mattoliverau | or when you write 'patch <patch num>' or 'p <patch num>' | 08:47 |
| gmann | i think when patch | 08:47 |
| gmann | patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/579104/ | 08:48 |
| gmann | no :) | 08:48 |
| mattoliverau | maybe I should try and see if I can the guys who run it to push it upstream :) | 08:48 |
| mattoliverau | cool.. anyway. I'll stop going on tangents :) | 08:48 |
| mattoliverau | and ending meeting in.. | 08:49 |
| mattoliverau | 3... | 08:49 |
| mattoliverau | 2.. | 08:49 |
| mattoliverau | 1... | 08:49 |
| ianychoi | :) | 08:49 |
| mattoliverau | #endmeeting | 08:49 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 08:49 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jul 11 08:49:31 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 08:49 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fc_sig/2018/fc_sig.2018-07-11-08.08.html | 08:49 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fc_sig/2018/fc_sig.2018-07-11-08.08.txt | 08:49 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fc_sig/2018/fc_sig.2018-07-11-08.08.log.html | 08:49 |
| gmann | thanks mattoliverau for chairing | 08:49 |
| mattoliverau | nps | 08:49 |
| ianychoi | Thanks mattoliverau for charing, too! | 08:49 |
| mattoliverau | thanks everyone for coming | 08:50 |
| ianychoi | s/charing/chairing | 08:50 |
| mattoliverau | now time to go enjoy the evening :) | 08:50 |
| ianychoi | Yep :) Thanks! | 08:51 |
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| jungleboyj | #startmeeting Cinder | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jul 11 16:00:28 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jungleboyj. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Cinder)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'cinder' | 16:00 |
| jungleboyj | courtesy ping: jungleboyj DuncanT diablo_rojo, diablo_rojo_phon, rajinir tbarron xyang xyang1 e0ne gouthamr thingee erlon tpsilva patrickeast tommylikehu eharney geguileo smcginnis lhx_ lhx__ aspiers jgriffith moshele hwalsh felipemonteiro lpetrut lseki _alastor_ | 16:00 |
| e0ne | hi | 16:00 |
| tommylikehu | hello | 16:00 |
| erlon_ | Heu | 16:00 |
| rajinir | hi | 16:00 |
| geguileo | hi! o/ | 16:00 |
| walshh | hi | 16:00 |
| erlon_ | Hey | 16:00 |
| eharney | hi | 16:00 |
| jungleboyj | @! | 16:01 |
| _pewp_ | jungleboyj (ஐ╹◡╹)ノ | 16:01 |
| jungleboyj | Welcome, welcome to everyone. | 16:01 |
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| xyang | hi | 16:01 |
| tbarron | hi | 16:01 |
| jungleboyj | Give people another second to gather. | 16:01 |
| jungleboyj | Well, it looks like we have the usual suspects so I will get started. | 16:02 |
| jungleboyj | #topic announcements | 16:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "announcements (Meeting topic: Cinder)" | 16:02 | |
| jungleboyj | First, thanks to smcginnis_afk for covering meetings the last couple of weeks. | 16:02 |
| jungleboyj | Now I am back and he is away. :-) | 16:03 |
| jungleboyj | I have gotten an etherpad together for planning the PTG. | 16:03 |
| jungleboyj | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-ptg-planning-denver-9-2018 | 16:03 |
| jungleboyj | Please take a few minutes to add topics when you have a chance. I have already put a couple of things in there. | 16:04 |
| kien-ha | hi | 16:04 |
| jungleboyj | Also, if anyone hasn't gotten a hotel room and/or tickets make sure to do so. | 16:04 |
| jungleboyj | I think the prices go up again and they have a limited number of rooms in the hotel block. | 16:04 |
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| jungleboyj | Last reminder is that we are coming down towards the end of the release so please try to get patches wrapped up . | 16:05 |
| jungleboyj | Reviewers remember that the runway is shortening. | 16:05 |
| jungleboyj | I have been doing my best keeping up but would appreciate anyone else who can make time for reviews. | 16:06 |
| jungleboyj | I think that is all I have for announcements. | 16:06 |
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| jungleboyj | #topic Rocky Priorities Review | 16:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Rocky Priorities Review (Meeting topic: Cinder)" | 16:06 | |
| * jungleboyj hands ganso a tardy slip. | 16:06 | |
| jungleboyj | So, first thing on Rocky items is that I have pushed up a patch for the new non-wiki based support matrix: | 16:07 |
| jungleboyj | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/580757/ | 16:07 |
| jungleboyj | I have done my bet to get accurate info for each driver but would appreciate people's eyes on it. | 16:08 |
| jungleboyj | Let me know if you find issues. | 16:08 |
| eharney | do we really need a big section listing drivers that support "create volume"? :) | 16:08 |
| e0ne | :) | 16:08 |
| jungleboyj | :-) Well, that is a good question. | 16:08 |
| eharney | i think that's a pre-requisite for.. anything | 16:09 |
| jungleboyj | We could simplify it and just list all the things that everyone supports and slim it down to just the optional things. | 16:09 |
| jungleboyj | It would make the matrix easier to read and maintain. | 16:09 |
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| jungleboyj | So, take a look and please make comments. I will try to get changes pushed up quick as I would like to get that in for this release. | 16:11 |
| jungleboyj | I had a couple of questions: | 16:11 |
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| jungleboyj | e0ne: Is the Generic Backup work going to slip to Stein? | 16:11 |
| e0ne | jungleboyj: unfortunately, yes:( | 16:12 |
| jungleboyj | Ok. Bummer. Looks like you put in a placeholder to get ready to move that to Stein. | 16:12 |
| e0ne | I won't be able to finish it with an acceptable quality in Rocku | 16:12 |
| e0ne | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/581783/ | 16:13 |
| jungleboyj | Ok. Best to wait then. | 16:13 |
| e0ne | ^^ here is a patch to move a spec to Stein | 16:13 |
| jungleboyj | e0ne: Thanks. | 16:13 |
| jungleboyj | Is tommylikehu here? | 16:13 |
| tommylikehu | yeah | 16:13 |
| jungleboyj | Is the change to Update Backup's size when it is created going to slip? | 16:14 |
| tommylikehu | yeah:) | 16:14 |
| tommylikehu | I submitted the patch to move it into stein | 16:14 |
| jungleboyj | Ok. | 16:14 |
| jungleboyj | Link ? | 16:14 |
| tommylikehu | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/575280/ | 16:15 |
| jungleboyj | tommylikehu: Thank you! | 16:15 |
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| jungleboyj | Last note on Rocky work is to hold off on the privsep patches as there are concerns with any long running commands blocking all of Cinder. | 16:16 |
| jungleboyj | eharney: Raised this concern. | 16:16 |
| jungleboyj | I have added discussion for at the PTG. | 16:16 |
| eharney | i'll write up something on this (and likely start working on fixing it) | 16:16 |
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| jungleboyj | eharney: That would be awesome! | 16:16 |
| tommylikehu | eharney: thanks! | 16:17 |
| jungleboyj | Cool. So that covers the Rocky work I think. Anyone else have comments. | 16:18 |
| jungleboyj | #topic HA development check in. | 16:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "HA development check in. (Meeting topic: Cinder)" | 16:19 | |
| jungleboyj | geguileo: *nudge nudge* | 16:19 |
| jungleboyj | Anything to share? | 16:19 |
| e0ne | :) | 16:19 |
| jungleboyj | I shouldn't poke, I haven't had a chance to look at the patch yet. I will do that. | 16:20 |
| jungleboyj | Hope others can do the same. | 16:20 |
| jungleboyj | Looks like we lost geguileo though. | 16:20 |
| geguileo | I'm back | 16:20 |
| jungleboyj | Yay! | 16:20 |
| geguileo | I have to make some modifications to the patch that are in the reviews | 16:21 |
| jungleboyj | geguileo: Anything else to share? | 16:21 |
| jungleboyj | Ok. Cool. | 16:21 |
| geguileo | nothing else to add | 16:21 |
| jungleboyj | Okie Dokie. | 16:21 |
| jungleboyj | Last ... | 16:22 |
| jungleboyj | #topic Storyboard Migration | 16:22 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Storyboard Migration (Meeting topic: Cinder)" | 16:22 | |
| jungleboyj | Just a check to see if anyone else has had a chance to look at the test migration? | 16:22 |
| jungleboyj | Guessing that is crickets I hear. | 16:23 |
| eharney | where is it? | 16:23 |
| jungleboyj | tbarron: You made any progress with Manila ? | 16:23 |
| jungleboyj | #link https://storyboard-dev.openstack.org/#!/project_group/55 | 16:23 |
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| eharney | jungleboyj: that doesn't appear to exist | 16:24 |
| jungleboyj | I also keep it at the head of the weekly meeting etherpad. | 16:24 |
| jungleboyj | Seriously? | 16:24 |
| tbarron | jungleboyj: I don't want to move ahead on manila until storyboard will allow attachment upload | 16:24 |
| tbarron | jungleboyj: that's a deal-breaker for me atm and the storyboard folks know it | 16:24 |
| jungleboyj | eharney: Looks like it disappeared again. | 16:24 |
| jungleboyj | This happened with the last one diablo_rojo_phon made as well. | 16:25 |
| jungleboyj | I will follow up with her. | 16:25 |
| jungleboyj | tbarron: Any eta on that function? | 16:25 |
| tbarron | jungleboyj: we can't require bug reporters to know what are the relevant log snippets and cut and paste them | 16:25 |
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| tbarron | jungleboyj: not that I know of but they did register the concern as legit | 16:25 |
| jungleboyj | Ok. That is good. | 16:26 |
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| jungleboyj | Do you have a test migration out there that has survived> | 16:26 |
| jungleboyj | tbarron: ^^ | 16:27 |
| eharney | do we have bugs currently on cinder that have files attached? do they disappear when we migrate? | 16:27 |
| jungleboyj | eharney: Not sure. Need to take a look. | 16:29 |
| eharney | there's https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+patches which shows a few but i'm not sure how to search for all files | 16:29 |
| jungleboyj | eharney: Not sure either. | 16:30 |
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| jungleboyj | So, I guess the path forward is to get the test migration going again and start looking at those details. | 16:31 |
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| jungleboyj | I will let people know when the migration is up. | 16:32 |
| jungleboyj | Any other thoughts there? | 16:32 |
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| jungleboyj | I am taking that as a no. I will get updates out as I get them. | 16:34 |
| jungleboyj | #topic Open Discussion | 16:34 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: Cinder)" | 16:34 | |
| jungleboyj | Anyone have other topics? | 16:34 |
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| jungleboyj | Very quiet. | 16:36 |
| jungleboyj | Ok. Sorry, I was little distracted. Getting my boys dropped off. | 16:37 |
| jungleboyj | eharney: Was there anything more you wanted to say on StoryBoard or tbarron ? | 16:38 |
| eharney | nothing other than the usual complaint about random number urls :) | 16:38 |
| jungleboyj | eharney: I hate that! It makes no sense. Don't understand why we can't make a link or something. | 16:38 |
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| tbarron | jungleboyj: test migration is there and I think surviving | 16:39 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | There are patches out to fix that-the URLs being human readable. | 16:39 |
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| jungleboyj | diablo_rojo_phon: Yay! | 16:39 |
| tbarron | jungleboyj: sorry, dealing with a cust. issue at same time | 16:39 |
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| jungleboyj | tbarron: No problem. | 16:40 |
| jungleboyj | diablo_rojo_phon: Any idea why the Cinder migration looks like it disappeared again? | 16:40 |
| jungleboyj | I thought I had updated the link in the etherpad. | 16:41 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | It doesn't happen in the production environment just the Dev environment. Haven't had time to look into what's causing it yet. | 16:42 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | And it's not may cinder is disappearing | 16:42 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | All the repos are still there | 16:42 |
| jungleboyj | diablo_rojo_phon: Ok. Understood. If you can respin at some point that would be good. | 16:42 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | It's just the project group association. | 16:42 |
| jungleboyj | Oh, ok. | 16:42 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | If you search for cinder all the repos still exist :) | 16:43 |
| jungleboyj | Interesting. | 16:43 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | And from what I understand it still exists in the dB for the Dev environment | 16:44 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | It's just not showing in the UI | 16:44 |
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| jungleboyj | That is odd. Well, let us know if you guys figure it out. | 16:45 |
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| jungleboyj | diablo_rojo_phon: Oh, I see that I can search for Cinder. Ok. That will help me make progress at least. | 16:46 |
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| jungleboyj | Ok, so if others want to look around that is how you can find Cinder. :-) | 16:47 |
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| jungleboyj | Where oh where has my Cinder go, Where oh where can it be? | 16:47 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | It never left :) | 16:47 |
| jungleboyj | Ok, I think that is all we have for today. | 16:47 |
| jungleboyj | diablo_rojo_phon: It was just hiding. | 16:48 |
| jungleboyj | Ok. Thank you to everyone for joining! | 16:48 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Indeed :) | 16:48 |
| jungleboyj | Keep up the good work. | 16:49 |
| jungleboyj | Please help review and I will talk to you all next week! | 16:49 |
| jungleboyj | #endmeeting | 16:49 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 16:49 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jul 11 16:49:37 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:49 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2018/cinder.2018-07-11-16.00.html | 16:49 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2018/cinder.2018-07-11-16.00.txt | 16:49 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2018/cinder.2018-07-11-16.00.log.html | 16:49 |
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| notmyname | swift team meeting time | 20:59 |
| notmyname | #startmeeting swift | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jul 11 21:00:01 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is notmyname. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: swift)" | 21:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'swift' | 21:00 |
| notmyname | who's here for the swift team meeting? | 21:00 |
| timburke | o/ | 21:00 |
| mattoliverau | o/ | 21:00 |
| rledisez | hi o/ | 21:00 |
| kota_ | o/ | 21:00 |
| notmyname | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Swift | 21:01 |
| notmyname | there's the agenda. a few things to cover | 21:01 |
| notmyname | where's clayg? is he here? | 21:01 |
| clayg | o/ | 21:01 |
| notmyname | welcome, everyone | 21:01 |
| notmyname | #topic contianer sharding | 21:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "contianer sharding (Meeting topic: swift)" | 21:02 | |
| notmyname | I wanted to share with [!swiftstack] some of the info on sharding. more just "here's how it's going in prod" | 21:02 |
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| notmyname | put simply, so far it's going pretty well. it works, it can be scaled to do more at once, and people are pretty happy | 21:02 |
| notmyname | that being said, we just recently came across a couple of issues we're looking in to | 21:03 |
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| notmyname | first, object PUTs can get slow because there's a GET to the root container. timburke and I have talked a little about what may be done about that | 21:03 |
| notmyname | second, when concurrency was ramped up some object GETs started returning 404s. not sure what's up with that yet | 21:04 |
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| notmyname | clayg: timburke: is all that correct-ish enough? | 21:04 |
| timburke | no... *container* GETs in the object *PUT* path | 21:04 |
| clayg | Talked more than just “cache shard ranges somehow”? | 21:04 |
| timburke | (was my understanding) | 21:04 |
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| notmyname | timburke: thanks :-) | 21:04 |
| notmyname | clayg: very slightly more, yes ;-) | 21:05 |
| clayg | I know what’s happening with the 404 on PUT I saw that I’m the lab. It’s kind of the same problem. Ish. | 21:05 |
| timburke | we knew that container request would slow things down. we didn't appreciate that the container would get error limited, leading to the 404s | 21:05 |
| notmyname | either we cache it in the proxy (somehow) or we potentially defer it to async later | 21:05 |
| notmyname | timburke: ah, that makes sense | 21:05 |
| clayg | Ah. Async. | 21:05 |
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| clayg | Yeah we know why there is 404. We could/should probably try to do better there. | 21:06 |
| notmyname | may be an actual async pending. or could be that the object updates the root and then gets redirected to a child. or that the root queues it for async update to the child. so many different ideas | 21:06 |
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| clayg | The async idea seems like it GETs is into trouble later. Dunno. | 21:06 |
| notmyname | yeah, it's not great. but neither is an unbounded cache in the proxy | 21:06 |
| mattoliverau | Interesting, do we have bugs or an etherpad to track these | 21:07 |
| notmyname | I don't think so | 21:07 |
| clayg | I’m still a little mad the container dbs can’t do a few 100 connections per second. 🤷♂️ | 21:07 |
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| clayg | Yeah so action item is bugs. | 21:08 |
| notmyname | yeah. I'll take that | 21:08 |
| clayg | I’ll work on that while @timburke is out. | 21:08 |
| timburke | one thought i'd had was to see that the root is sharding, direct all updates to a random selection of the root's first 10*replica_count *handoffs* (skipping the primaries entirely), and let them cleave to the shards | 21:08 |
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| timburke | but i have *no idea* how well that'll work | 21:08 |
| mattoliverau | I'd like to recreate them so I can see where the bottleneck is :) | 21:09 |
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| mattoliverau | Oh interesting, giving the work to handoffs | 21:09 |
| clayg | Just get sharded AF them PUT with a lot of concurrency. | 21:09 |
| notmyname | timburke: I liked that one for the "it's just crazy enough it may actually work" factor ;-) | 21:10 |
| timburke | mattoliverau: importantly, some >1 multiple of the replica count of the handoffs | 21:10 |
| notmyname | mattoliverau: if I haven't made upstream bugs by your lunchtime today, then yell at me | 21:11 |
| clayg | I think we might could find something clever in the container server code that would get us enough shard range lookups per second. | 21:11 |
| timburke | but i'd worry about what will happen with db size as we're streaming records through the misplaced object table... | 21:11 |
| clayg | Deferring the work isn’t great. That was the problem we were solving! | 21:12 |
| clayg | I’d much rather back pressure the client. | 21:12 |
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| notmyname | anyway, I wanted to share with mattoliverau and rledisez and kota_ what was going on there | 21:13 |
| notmyname | mostly good. a few issues to work through. nothing that's a showstopper yet | 21:13 |
| notmyname | I'll make some upstream bugs so others can try to see it too | 21:13 |
| kota_ | notmyname: thanks for sharing, I need to catch up more what's going on the situation with the container sharding... | 21:13 |
| clayg | We should be able to make it fast enough. With some sort of caching (maybe closer to the db) - more like the pending files. Or... something. There’s not that much shard ranges to cache. We have an SSD right there. | 21:13 |
| mattoliverau | Thanks I appreciate it, let's out our heads together and figure something out. I'll have a go recreating it | 21:13 |
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| notmyname | clayg: +1 | 21:14 |
| notmyname | #topic patches | 21:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "patches (Meeting topic: swift)" | 21:14 | |
| kota_ | repro according to the bug reports will help me to understand. | 21:14 |
| notmyname | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/447129 is open, and acoles had asked for an additional +2. his is on it already | 21:14 |
| patchbot | patch 447129 - swift - Configure diskfile per storage policy | 21:14 |
| clayg | Oh, that’s on my list to review! | 21:15 |
| clayg | Hi @rledisez | 21:15 |
| notmyname | oh good! :-) | 21:15 |
| notmyname | I'd looked at it a high level, but clayg would do a lot better at a real review than me :-) | 21:15 |
| clayg | I mean, it’s been there since last week? 🤷♂️ | 21:15 |
| notmyname | a whole week?! surely we don't let patches get that old, do we? ;-) | 21:16 |
| clayg | 😂 | 21:16 |
| notmyname | speaking of... https://review.openstack.org/#/c/427911/ | 21:16 |
| patchbot | patch 427911 - swift - Replace MIME with PUT+POST for EC and Encryption | 21:16 |
| notmyname | timburke: do you remember where acoles left this with zaitcev? | 21:16 |
| timburke | not off hand... | 21:17 |
| notmyname | ok | 21:17 |
| notmyname | the other patch I wanted to mention in swift is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/337960/ | 21:17 |
| patchbot | patch 337960 - swift - Include SLO ETag in container updates | 21:17 |
| notmyname | timburke: you updated this at clayg's suggestion | 21:17 |
| clayg | Zaitcev was gunna flatten some stuff. Then we needed to merge it. Al said “needs tests” | 21:17 |
| notmyname | clayg: got it. thanks | 21:17 |
| clayg | @notmyname: we talk about that. It’s all brilliant. Tim is a saint. | 21:18 |
| timburke | more keys in JSON dicts! what could go wrong, right? | 21:18 |
| notmyname | nothing, as long as you don't end with a trailing , | 21:18 |
| clayg | kota_: you might wanna sign off? The follow on is s3api. Also awesome afaik? | 21:18 |
| notmyname | yeah, I'd love to have kota_'s opinion on it, based on his expertise with s3 | 21:19 |
| kota_ | it sounds cool, sorry i didn't see the new version (more keys) yet. | 21:19 |
| notmyname | no worries | 21:20 |
| notmyname | clayg: weren't we just saying how great timburke is? I've got another reason to pile on | 21:20 |
| notmyname | so this week timburke updated https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Swift/PriorityReviews with a bunch of stuff that would be good to see land in swiftclient. (thanks timburke!) | 21:21 |
| kota_ | I'll try to look at it as possible today but not sure to complete, then i'll be being in summer vacation for a week. | 21:21 |
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| notmyname | it's a long list, but the top ones are all that really matter right now (because they're the only ones ready to land) | 21:21 |
| clayg | I say that all the time. It’s part of my morning routine. “Try to be more like Tim, but don’t cry to much when you inevitably fail” | 21:21 |
| mattoliverau | +1 :) | 21:21 |
| notmyname | and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/498069/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/538349/ both already have one +2. so should we go ahead and click +A on them | 21:21 |
| patchbot | patch 498069 - python-swiftclient - Stop mutating header dicts | 21:21 |
| patchbot | patch 538349 - python-swiftclient - Treat 404 as success when deleting segments | 21:21 |
| timburke | clayg: i think you've got my routine, but backwards :-/ | 21:21 |
| notmyname | so unless someone objects by the end of my workday (ie in about 3-4 hours), then i'll merge these two patches based on existing reviews | 21:23 |
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| notmyname | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/581374/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/581374/ are the other two that could land soon. they add good new functionality | 21:23 |
| patchbot | patch 581374 - python-swiftclient - Add ability to generate a temporary URL with an IP... | 21:23 |
| patchbot | patch 581374 - python-swiftclient - Add ability to generate a temporary URL with an IP... | 21:23 |
| clayg | Those patches already have my opinion on them 😃 | 21:23 |
| notmyname | importantly, we need swiftclient master to be ready for a release tag by the end of next week (july 20) | 21:23 |
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| notmyname | towards the end of next week i'll do the authors/changelog patch and well tag a release | 21:24 |
| notmyname | #topic open discussion | 21:24 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: swift)" | 21:24 | |
| notmyname | anything else to bring up this week? | 21:24 |
| timburke | i'm looking at that tempurl one now -- looks sane, i might have a follow-up to catch some errors earlier | 21:24 |
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| timburke | another patch worth pointing out: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/578075/ -- i know we said one +2 is enough, but since i had a decent hand in writing the patch, i figure someone else ought to point out where i was stupid | 21:24 |
| patchbot | patch 578075 - swift - Add keymaster to fetch root secret from KMIP service | 21:24 |
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| clayg | mattoliverau: bash completion thing looks cool!? | 21:26 |
| notmyname | clayg: i know, right | 21:26 |
| kota_ | clayg: +1 | 21:26 |
| mattoliverau | Thanks :) | 21:26 |
| mattoliverau | I'm lazy so want things to auto complete | 21:27 |
| clayg | I don’t want to sign up for kmips thing. | 21:27 |
| notmyname | timburke: is your multi-key thing a dependency of p 578075? | 21:27 |
| patchbot | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/578075/ - swift - Add keymaster to fetch root secret from KMIP service | 21:27 |
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| mattoliverau | If we're happy with how that works, might slowly add it to other tools | 21:27 |
| timburke | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/577874/ is cool, too -- will probably want multiple opinions eventually | 21:27 |
| patchbot | patch 577874 - swift - Add support for multiple root encryption secrets | 21:27 |
| notmyname | right | 21:27 |
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| timburke | notmyname: the two patches are independent, but once one lands, the other's gonna grow a chain | 21:27 |
| notmyname | got it | 21:27 |
| clayg | rledisez: weren’t you saying you wanted to do more reviews? | 21:28 |
| mattoliverau | Is there a simple way to have a kmip service, if so I'll take a look | 21:28 |
| notmyname | mattoliverau: yeah, the pykmip project has a test endpoint afaik | 21:28 |
| timburke | acoles is the best. https://gist.github.com/alistairncoles/88044939197875d227556a5c676ad6ac | 21:28 |
| rledisez | clayg: yeah, but I say so much things… :/ | 21:28 |
| timburke | linked in the comments on gerrit, too | 21:28 |
| timburke | clayg: i'm pretty sure we *all* say we want to do more reviews :P | 21:29 |
| notmyname | the story with these two kmip ones is that (1) we've got people who what to do key rotation (ie start using a new key later for new data, and all the keys still work) and (2) we've got people who want to do that while talking directly to a kmip server instead of going through barbican | 21:29 |
| mattoliverau | Oh sweet, go acoles | 21:29 |
| clayg | Lol @ timburke | 21:30 |
| notmyname | what else should we talk about this week? | 21:30 |
| notmyname | rledisez: anything to report on LOSF? | 21:30 |
| notmyname | (or anything else?) | 21:30 |
| kota_ | timburke: something we should do for proxyfs? | 21:30 |
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| kota_ | i saw an issue you reported around delimiter... | 21:31 |
| timburke | kota_: add support or delimiter queries? yeah, that'd probably be nice... it's been a known issue for a while... i just gotta find cycles to fix it | 21:31 |
| rledisez | notmyname: not really on LOSF. alecuyer was digging a bug in SSYNC all day. might be related to https://bugs.launchpad.net/swift/+bug/1652323. I expect a patch soon for that | 21:31 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1652323 in OpenStack Object Storage (swift) "ssync syncs an expired object as a tombstone" [High,Fix released] | 21:31 |
| kota_ | timburke: ok, thx. | 21:32 |
| timburke | kota_: as much as anything, i wrote that up to get our known issues more visible -- "Issues (2)" doesn't *begin* to describe the limitations we know about :P | 21:32 |
| timburke | i'll try to write up more of them in the near-ish future | 21:33 |
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| kota_ | great | 21:33 |
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| clayg | Grand. | 21:34 |
| notmyname | kota_: rledisez: mattoliverau: I want to talk to you each during the next week about the denver ptg. I'll try to find you each on irc (at your respective reasonable times) | 21:34 |
| notmyname | anything else to bring up from anyone? | 21:34 |
| mattoliverau | Nope, breakfast time? | 21:35 |
| notmyname | let's put a fork in it and call it done | 21:35 |
| notmyname | (yes, I'm using american idioms intentionally to confuse people) ;-) | 21:36 |
| notmyname | thanks for coming today. and thank you for your work on swift | 21:36 |
| notmyname | #endmeeting | 21:36 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jul 11 21:36:20 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:36 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2018/swift.2018-07-11-21.00.html | 21:36 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2018/swift.2018-07-11-21.00.txt | 21:36 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2018/swift.2018-07-11-21.00.log.html | 21:36 |
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