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| tpatil | #startmeeting Masakari | 03:00 |
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| tpatil | Hi All | 03:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jun 19 03:00:14 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tpatil. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 03:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 03:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Masakari)" | 03:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'masakari' | 03:00 |
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| tpatil | Will wait for more members to join this meeting | 03:04 |
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| tpatil | #topic Bugs | 03:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: Masakari)" | 03:05 | |
| tpatil | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/575020/1 | 03:05 |
| patchbot | patch 575020 - masakari - Fix Context test cases | 03:05 |
| tpatil | We should merge this patch soon as it's blocking CI jobs | 03:05 |
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| tpatil | Due to lack of attendance, ending this meeting early. If anyone has any questions about Masakari please drop an email in the ML or ask on openstack-masakari IRC | 03:10 |
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| tpatil | #endmeeting | 03:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 03:10 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jun 19 03:10:14 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 03:10 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/masakari/2018/masakari.2018-06-19-03.00.html | 03:10 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/masakari/2018/masakari.2018-06-19-03.00.txt | 03:10 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/masakari/2018/masakari.2018-06-19-03.00.log.html | 03:10 |
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| gongysh | hi | 07:59 |
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| gongysh | #startmeeting tacker | 08:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jun 19 08:01:56 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gongysh. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 08:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: tacker)" | 08:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tacker' | 08:02 |
| gongysh | hi | 08:02 |
| gongysh | #topic roll call | 08:02 |
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| Li_Jiale | 0/ | 08:03 |
| joxyuki | gongysh, hi | 08:03 |
| phuoc | o/ | 08:03 |
| Li_Jiale | o/ | 08:04 |
| YanXing_an | o/ | 08:04 |
| gongysh | #topic bp | 08:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bp (Meeting topic: tacker)" | 08:05 | |
| gongysh | it seems our ci comes back. | 08:05 |
| gongysh | it works now. | 08:05 |
| gongysh | phuoc, do you have the idea why? | 08:06 |
| phuoc | gongysh, I don't know :) | 08:06 |
| gongysh | haha | 08:06 |
| gongysh | magic | 08:06 |
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| gongysh | phuoc, so do you have some thing to talk about the your bps? | 08:07 |
| YanXing_an | give way for hackathon ;) | 08:07 |
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| phuoc | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/548109 | 08:08 |
| patchbot | patch 548109 - tacker - Support exposing Kubernetes service using Loadbala... | 08:08 |
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| phuoc | if you guys have time, please look at this | 08:08 |
| phuoc | :) | 08:08 |
| nguyenhai | o/ | 08:08 |
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| gongysh | lets do the recheck first. | 08:09 |
| gongysh | we are joining smash bugs days in china | 08:09 |
| phuoc | gongysh, I will rebase it now | 08:09 |
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| nguyenhai | CI comes back because those failed unit tests are disable: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/572288/ | 08:10 |
| patchbot | patch 572288 - tacker - Disable unit tests for alarm monitoring features (MERGED) | 08:10 |
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| gongysh | we will merge codes after a quick testing. | 08:10 |
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| gongysh | phuoc, do you know whether the heat-translator publishes a new release? | 08:11 |
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| phuoc | It seems Bobh only released Tosca-parser and forgot Heat-translator | 08:12 |
| phuoc | I will notice him again | 08:13 |
| gongysh | ok, please remember to push him. thanks | 08:13 |
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| gongysh | YanXing_an, please review other guys patches too. | 08:13 |
| YanXingAn | ok | 08:13 |
| gongysh | YanXing_an, will you register a new bp to deal with mistral action to access tenants' vim credentials? | 08:14 |
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| YanXingAn | Already registered | 08:15 |
| YanXingAn | need a spec? | 08:15 |
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| gongysh | YanXing_an, anyways you think it is fine. but had better to register a spec. | 08:16 |
| gongysh | #topic open discussion | 08:17 |
| YanXingAn | ok, code goes first | 08:17 |
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| gongysh | anything else? | 08:17 |
| egonzalez | yep, i have one | 08:18 |
| gongysh | hyunsikyang1, hi | 08:18 |
| gongysh | egonzalez, hi | 08:18 |
| nguyenhai | python3-first | 08:18 |
| nguyenhai | we have to move to python3 | 08:18 |
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| egonzalez | i'm adding a job for testing tacker in kolla gates, hope it gets merged soon :) | 08:19 |
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| gongysh | egonzalez, it is great. | 08:19 |
| gongysh | egonzalez, do you have url for it? | 08:19 |
| gongysh | nguyenhai, python3 is fine. that is needed too. | 08:19 |
| egonzalez | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/575026/ | 08:19 |
| patchbot | patch 575026 - kolla-ansible - [GATE]Run jobs for files changes, scenario001 NFV | 08:19 |
| gongysh | egonzalez, got it. thanks | 08:20 |
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| gongysh | nguyenhai, any python3 patch will ok to merge | 08:21 |
| nguyenhai | but there is some failure when running unit tests at py35 | 08:22 |
| YanXingAn | Let’s fix them | 08:22 |
| gongysh | YanXingAn, nice | 08:22 |
| gongysh | nguyenhai, file the bug, and lets fix it. | 08:23 |
| nguyenhai | yes, let's investigate those failure | 08:23 |
| nguyenhai | also in the case of python-tackerclient, https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-tackerclient/+bug/1775548 | 08:23 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1775548 in python-tackerclient "'Statement' object has no attribute 'parsed'" [Medium,New] | 08:23 |
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| nguyenhai | when running tox -e py35, it shows the error below error in loop: | 08:23 |
| nguyenhai | EXCEPTION of type 'AttributeError' occurred with message: ''Statement' object has no attribute 'parsed'' | 08:23 |
| nguyenhai | and cause TIMED_OUT openstack-tox-py35 at CI, for example, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/573138/ | 08:24 |
| patchbot | patch 573138 - python-tackerclient - Switch to using stestr | 08:24 |
| nguyenhai | about VIM monitor using Mistral, please also consider to merger this patch :) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/568300/ | 08:25 |
| patchbot | patch 568300 - tacker - Fix failed to remove VIM monitor due to running ex... | 08:25 |
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| gongysh | nguyenhai, will you do more investigation about py35? | 08:26 |
| nguyenhai | yes, I will do | 08:26 |
| gongysh | thanks. and assign bug to yourself please. | 08:26 |
| nguyenhai | The patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/573138/ may not related to that bug, it should be merged | 08:27 |
| patchbot | patch 573138 - python-tackerclient - Switch to using stestr | 08:27 |
| nguyenhai | That's all from me. | 08:27 |
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| gongysh | anything else? | 08:32 |
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| gongysh | ok, lets go to code. | 08:33 |
| gongysh | #endmeeting | 08:33 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jun 19 08:33:33 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 08:33 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2018/tacker.2018-06-19-08.01.html | 08:33 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2018/tacker.2018-06-19-08.01.txt | 08:33 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2018/tacker.2018-06-19-08.01.log.html | 08:33 |
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| mlavalle | #startmeeting networking | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jun 19 14:00:16 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mlavalle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: networking)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking' | 14:00 |
| njohnston | o/ | 14:00 |
| annp | hi | 14:00 |
| janzian | o/ | 14:00 |
| elod | hi | 14:00 |
| gibi | o/ | 14:00 |
| rubasov | o/ | 14:00 |
| manjeet | o/ | 14:00 |
| mlavalle | hey Team | 14:00 |
| haleyb | hi | 14:01 |
| mlavalle | Thanks for attending | 14:01 |
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| bcafarel | hi | 14:01 |
| slaweq | hi | 14:02 |
| mlavalle | Updated agenda for today is here: | 14:02 |
| mlavalle | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/Meetings | 14:02 |
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| mlavalle | #topic Announcements | 14:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: networking)" | 14:03 | |
| mlavalle | Our next milestone is Rocky-3, July 23 - 27 | 14:04 |
| mlavalle | That's a little less than 6 week from now | 14:05 |
| mlavalle | it will be here before we know it | 14:05 |
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| mlavalle | The Berlin Summit Call for Presentations is open until July 15th: | 14:06 |
| mlavalle | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit-login/login?BackURL=%2Fsummit%2Fberlin-2018%2Fcall-for-presentations%2F | 14:06 |
| mlavalle | Looking forward to see many of you presenting in Berlin | 14:07 |
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| mlavalle | Any other announcements from the team? | 14:07 |
| janzian | I have one | 14:07 |
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| haleyb | mlavalle: should i mention release cadence now or add to end? | 14:07 |
| mlavalle | Go ahead, janzian | 14:07 |
| janzian | Unfortunately I will be leaving OpenStack shortly, going to a new company | 14:08 |
| janzian | So Neutron will need a new oslo liaison | 14:08 |
| mlavalle | Thanks for the annoncement, janzian. I wish you good luck in your next step. and I'll miss you ;-) | 14:08 |
| mlavalle | good thing you are my Austin neighbour ;-) | 14:09 |
| haleyb | good luck in your new adventure! | 14:09 |
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| janzian | mlavalle: We'll just have to grab lunch a little more frequently to make up for it :) | 14:09 |
| mlavalle | will do | 14:09 |
| mlavalle | haleyb: go ahead, please | 14:09 |
| janzian | Thanks all | 14:10 |
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| haleyb | we decided to document how frequently we will release stable branches | 14:10 |
| haleyb | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/575820/ | 14:10 |
| patchbot | patch 575820 - neutron - Update doc on stable release frequency (MERGED) | 14:10 |
| haleyb | basically, every milestone in master we'll release stable branches, if there are changes in them | 14:10 |
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| haleyb | the patch has merged, but if it's not clear let me know and i'll update | 14:11 |
| haleyb | i have also assumed the stable liaison role, so will be the one sending the release patches, etc | 14:11 |
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| njohnston | is that true for stadium projects as well, or just neutron/neutron-lib | 14:12 |
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| haleyb | njohnston: that's a good question. i was just going to take care of neutron, neutron-lib is mostly handled by boden | 14:12 |
| mlavalle | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CrossProjectLiaisons#Stable_Branch | 14:13 |
| mlavalle | and each Stadium team does that on its own | 14:13 |
| haleyb | other projects should release as frequently, but i have not synced with anyone else | 14:13 |
| njohnston | ok, makes sense | 14:13 |
| mlavalle | haleyb: I will send a message to the ML announcing you are our liaison with the stable branches team | 14:14 |
| mlavalle | thanks for taking care of this :-) | 14:14 |
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| bcafarel | and thanks for making sure to have regular minor releases :) | 14:14 |
| mlavalle | ok, let's move on | 14:15 |
| mlavalle | #topic Blueprints | 14:15 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Blueprints (Meeting topic: networking)" | 14:15 | |
| elod | just to mention now: regarding stable (reviews) i have a topic in "on demand agenda" to the end of the meeting | 14:15 |
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| mlavalle | elod: ack. will cover it at the end | 14:16 |
| elod | thanks | 14:16 |
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| mlavalle | Our blueprints / bigs targeted for Rocky-3 are the following: | 14:17 |
| mlavalle | #link https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/rocky-3 | 14:17 |
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| mlavalle | I saw annp join the meeting.... Do you want to talk about https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/run-in-wsgi-server? | 14:18 |
| annp | mlavalle,thanks | 14:18 |
| annp | regards to wsgi, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/555608/ | 14:19 |
| patchbot | patch 555608 - neutron - Allow neutron-api load config from WSGI process | 14:19 |
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| annp | there is remain issue related to fwaas rpc when runing in debian | 14:20 |
| annp | all tempest test of WSGI neutron integration with devstack were passed. | 14:21 |
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| annp | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/473718/ | 14:21 |
| patchbot | patch 473718 - openstack-dev/devstack - WSGI Neutron integration | 14:21 |
| annp | There is remain issue related to neutron-grenade gate | 14:22 |
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| mlavalle | annp: how can we help? Review the patches? | 14:22 |
| njohnston | annp: would you like assistance with the fwaas rpc issue? | 14:22 |
| annp | Currently, I'm trying to figure out why verify post-upgrade of cinder failed | 14:23 |
| annp | if you have any idea please comment on gerrit | 14:23 |
| annp | that's all | 14:23 |
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| mlavalle | njohnston: if you can help, please go ahead | 14:24 |
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| njohnston | annp if you can, let's chat after the meeting | 14:25 |
| mlavalle | annp: ^^^^. he can provide help with the fwaas issue | 14:25 |
| annp | mlavalle, njoshnston, I'm so sorry. My connection is lost suddently. Please go ahead | 14:25 |
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| annp | mlavalle, we can chat later. | 14:26 |
| mlavalle | cool | 14:26 |
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| mlavalle | In regards to https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/live-migration-portbinding | 14:26 |
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| mlavalle | I think that after https://review.openstack.org/#/c/573005/, we can go ahead and start merging the series, right boden? | 14:27 |
| patchbot | patch 573005 - vmware-nsx - shim references for port_binding (MERGED) | 14:27 |
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| boden | mlavalle I think we are good from a vmware-nsx perspective now.. that patch merged (obviously) | 14:28 |
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| mlavalle | cool | 14:28 |
| mlavalle | I contacted all the stadium teams and sent message to the ML almost two weeks ago. No body else has raised a hand | 14:29 |
| mlavalle | so I think we are good to go | 14:29 |
| mlavalle | The series starts: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/414251 | 14:29 |
| patchbot | patch 414251 - neutron - Multiple port binding for ML2 | 14:29 |
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| mlavalle | slaweq: I think I addressed event the minor issues that you and Ihar had | 14:30 |
| mlavalle | so please take a look at that patch | 14:30 |
| slaweq | mlavalle: thx, I will review it asap | 14:30 |
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| mlavalle | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/571041 had some minor issues indicated for manjeet. I think that after addresing those today, it is also good to go | 14:31 |
| patchbot | patch 571041 - neutron - Pluralize binding relationship in Port | 14:31 |
| mlavalle | btw, thanks for the reviews | 14:31 |
| manjeet | :) | 14:31 |
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| mlavalle | In regards to https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/port-forwarding, zhaobo has made some extra effort to break the patches in smaller chunks | 14:32 |
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| mlavalle | The series is starts here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/535647 | 14:33 |
| patchbot | patch 535647 - neutron - [1] Neutron server side Floating IP port forwarding | 14:33 |
| mlavalle | Please take a look | 14:33 |
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| mlavalle | rubasov, gibi: do you want to talk about https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/strict-minimum-bandwidth-support | 14:34 |
| * mlavalle has some ideas addressing the HPB issue brought up by rubasov. will discuss in the QoS meeting | 14:34 | |
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| rubasov | we have a bit of progress with the implementation | 14:34 |
| rubasov | this topic: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:minimum-bandwidth-allocation-placement-api | 14:35 |
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| rubasov | these patches are WIP at the moment, but I have uploaded some to be able to discuss a few design questions | 14:35 |
| rubasov | I'm looking forward to that discussion on the qos meeting | 14:36 |
| gibi | the nova side progress is slowing down as other more priority issues needs focus from my side but I still pushing forward slowly | 14:36 |
| rubasov | and I hope to upload the next (agent resource info reporting) patch this week to the same topic | 14:36 |
| mlavalle | thanks for the hard work and update, rubasov and gibi !!!! | 14:36 |
| rubasov | mlavalle: thank you | 14:37 |
| mlavalle | I want to mention to the team that gibi, rubasov, slaweq and me are thinking of proposing a talk / demo on this topic for Berlin | 14:37 |
| mlavalle | thanks for starting the ball rolling, rubasov :-) | 14:37 |
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| rubasov | slaweq: let me know if you can join and then I can submit the abstract | 14:38 |
| njohnston | +1 | 14:38 |
| mlavalle | Does anyone else have another blueprint to discuss today? | 14:38 |
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| slaweq | rubasov: I will let You know asap by email | 14:39 |
| mlavalle | ok, let's move on | 14:39 |
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| mlavalle | #topic Community Goals | 14:40 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Community Goals (Meeting topic: networking)" | 14:40 | |
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| mlavalle | we already covered wsgi support | 14:40 |
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| annp | mlavalle, :) thanks. | 14:41 |
| mlavalle | is amotoki around to talk about policy in code? | 14:41 |
| mlavalle | maybe not | 14:41 |
| mlavalle | I want to mention that for python 3.5 support we have an etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/py3-neutron-pike | 14:42 |
| bcafarel | he said he would be on a train, not sure to join the meeting | 14:42 |
| mlavalle | folks can check this etherpad for iteam that need attention to attain this goal | 14:43 |
| mlavalle | Please take a look and see if there are iteam where you can help | 14:43 |
| mlavalle | bcafarel: thanks for the heads up ;-) | 14:43 |
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| munimeha1 | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/574477/ -need reviews | 14:43 |
| patchbot | patch 574477 - neutron-specs - Implements: bp/port-mirroring-sriov-vf Author: M... | 14:43 |
| bcafarel | bookmarked the etherpad, I hope to pick some of these off | 14:43 |
| mlavalle | cool! | 14:44 |
| mlavalle | #topic Bugs | 14:44 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: networking)" | 14:44 | |
| mlavalle | Our bugs report for the week is here: | 14:44 |
| mlavalle | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-June/131619.html | 14:44 |
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| mlavalle | anything you want to highlight slaweq? | 14:45 |
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| slaweq | mlavalle: nothing except what I wrote in email | 14:46 |
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| slaweq | and btw. sorry that I totally forgot about my bug deputy last week | 14:46 |
| mlavalle | It looks that everything is under control in that list | 14:46 |
| mlavalle | I will spend some time in that RFE | 14:47 |
| mlavalle | Thanks slaweq for summary! | 14:47 |
| slaweq | mlavalle: yw | 14:47 |
| mlavalle | Our deputy this week is haleyb | 14:47 |
| haleyb | ack | 14:48 |
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| mlavalle | and next week armax will be helping us with the bugs. I contacted him and he is ready to do it :-) | 14:48 |
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| mlavalle | he seems to like us and we love him back ;-) | 14:49 |
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| mlavalle | #topic neutron-lib | 14:49 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "neutron-lib (Meeting topic: networking)" | 14:49 | |
| manjeet | :) | 14:49 |
| mlavalle | any updates here, boden ? | 14:50 |
| boden | hi, I did have 1 thing to bring up and you can tell me if this is the wrong place for it | 14:50 |
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| boden | I’ve been having some problems getting patches into a few dependant projects for lib consumption patches | 14:51 |
| boden | it seems they are barely maintained | 14:51 |
| boden | this is really holding up progress with lib | 14:51 |
| boden | one example http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-June/131534.html | 14:51 |
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| boden | so my question is how to address these and keep lib efforts moving forward? | 14:52 |
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| mlavalle | Here's what I propose. Please send me an email with the list of projects you are having trouble with | 14:52 |
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| mlavalle | I will try to contact the nominal team. If we don't succeed on this, I will send a message to the ML indicating that we won't worry about them anymore | 14:53 |
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| mlavalle | does that help? | 14:53 |
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| boden | mlavalle we can try that… I will send a few other thoughts along with that email | 14:55 |
| mlavalle | cool | 14:55 |
| boden | and not belabor here | 14:55 |
| boden | thats all I really had ATM, unless others have something | 14:55 |
| mlavalle | it seems hongbin needs another release of neutron-lib. Would you object to that? | 14:56 |
| mlavalle | boden^^^ | 14:56 |
| mlavalle | I think he will prepare the patch | 14:56 |
| hongbin | o/ | 14:56 |
| hongbin | yes, after merging this patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/575560/ , i would need another release for moving forward | 14:56 |
| patchbot | patch 575560 - neutron-lib - Add the two missing 'is_filter' keyword | 14:56 |
| hongbin | mlavalle: thanks for bringing this up | 14:57 |
| boden | mlavalle I would have to do the dilligence to ensure it’s safe, but I suppose its fine | 14:57 |
| mlavalle | cool, thanks | 14:57 |
| mlavalle | hongbin: please coordinate with boden | 14:57 |
| hongbin | mlavalle: sure | 14:57 |
| mlavalle | In the interest of time, let's skip to open agenda | 14:58 |
| mlavalle | #topic Open Agenda | 14:58 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Agenda (Meeting topic: networking)" | 14:58 | |
| mlavalle | elod: I saw you list. I will go thorugh it today | 14:58 |
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| elod | mlavalle: thanks! | 14:58 |
| mlavalle | I've been catching up with stable since yesterday anyway | 14:59 |
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| mlavalle | ok team.... Thanks for attending | 14:59 |
| elod | by the way, can I ping you with similar patches (if something comes up) in the future? | 14:59 |
| manjeet | thanks ! | 14:59 |
| mlavalle | Have a great week! | 14:59 |
| bcafarel | o/ | 14:59 |
| mlavalle | elod: of course. anytime | 14:59 |
| njohnston | o/ | 14:59 |
| elod | thanks :) | 14:59 |
| elod | o/ | 14:59 |
| annp | thanks | 14:59 |
| mlavalle | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jun 19 15:00:03 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2018/networking.2018-06-19-14.00.html | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2018/networking.2018-06-19-14.00.txt | 15:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2018/networking.2018-06-19-14.00.log.html | 15:00 |
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| mlavalle | #startmeeting neutron_qos | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jun 19 15:00:58 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mlavalle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_qos' | 15:01 |
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| rubasov | hi again | 15:01 |
| gibi | o/ | 15:01 |
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| mlavalle | rubasov, gibi: today slaweq won't be around. He is watching the Poland game. Go Poland!!!!! | 15:03 |
| mlavalle | so you are stuck with me | 15:03 |
| gibi | go Poland! | 15:03 |
| rubasov | slaweq: go Poland! | 15:03 |
| mlavalle | give me a couple of minutes to strtech my legs | 15:03 |
| gibi | sure | 15:03 |
| mlavalle | I'll be right back | 15:03 |
| rubasov | mlavalle: of course | 15:03 |
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| mlavalle | gibi, rubasov: I'm back. My wife and daughter are watching the game. So if something happens, I might be able to update you | 15:06 |
| gibi | mlavalle: I'm not that deep in soccer but thanks :) | 15:07 |
| rubasov | mlavalle: cool | 15:07 |
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| rubasov | mlavalle: I'll have to leave around :35-:40 but until then I have my full attention here | 15:08 |
| mlavalle | ok, let's get going | 15:08 |
| mlavalle | the agenda for today is here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron_qos_meeting_chair | 15:08 |
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| mlavalle | let's start with you rubasov | 15:09 |
| mlavalle | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1578989 | 15:09 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1578989 in neutron "[RFE] Strict minimum bandwidth support (egress)" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Bence Romsics (bence-romsics) | 15:09 |
| rubasov | mlavalle: thank you | 15:10 |
| rubasov | there's this patch about me thinking how to drive binding from placement: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/574783 | 15:10 |
| patchbot | patch 574783 - neutron - WIP Drive binding by placement allocation | 15:10 |
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| mlavalle | I took a look yesterday | 15:11 |
| rubasov | the basic idea is simple: instead of calling on each mechanism driver configured restrict the list according to placement's decision | 15:11 |
| rubasov | mlavalle: thank you | 15:11 |
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| rubasov | but the qos-min-bw work is supposed to be limited to the bottom binding level (otherwise the scope would be larger) | 15:12 |
| rubasov | and I was stuck how to know if the current binding level is the bottom binding level | 15:12 |
| mlavalle | I also thought of taking advantage of the assumption that bind_port is side effect free | 15:13 |
| rubasov | or to find an alternative | 15:13 |
| rubasov | just before this meeting I added a comment on the patch I guess you have seen it | 15:13 |
| mlavalle | the alternative that I thought of was that we know we are at the botoom at this point: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/574783/5/neutron/plugins/ml2/managers.py@834 | 15:14 |
| rubasov | mlavalle: if bind_port is side effect free by design (not by just chance) we could use that | 15:14 |
| patchbot | patch 574783 - neutron - WIP Drive binding by placement allocation | 15:14 |
| mlavalle | what if, at that point, if we have 'allocation' in context.current['binding:profile'] | 15:15 |
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| mlavalle | we just re-execute the last binding level with the restricted set of drivers | 15:15 |
| mlavalle | ? | 15:15 |
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| rubasov | mlavalle: thinking... | 15:16 |
| mlavalle | up to that point, we just let everything run as normal | 15:16 |
| mlavalle | until we detect the bottom | 15:16 |
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| mlavalle | its another way to backtrack | 15:17 |
| rubasov | rubasov: let me rephrase to see if I understand: when done, go back and overwrite the last level according to the allocation | 15:17 |
| mlavalle | when done, let's execute the last level again with the restricted set of drivers | 15:18 |
| mlavalle | and rewrite the binding | 15:18 |
| mlavalle | until we find the bottom, we just let everything proceed as normal | 15:19 |
| mlavalle | as today | 15:19 |
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| rubasov | mlavalle: okay I think I understand | 15:19 |
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| mlavalle | and we only do the backtracking if we have 'allocation' in context.current['binding:profile'] | 15:20 |
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| rubasov | mlavalle: I like your idea, looks working to me | 15:20 |
| mlavalle | so instead of adding code at L778 | 15:20 |
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| mlavalle | you add code in the else branch in L832 | 15:21 |
| mlavalle | when you know you are at the bottom | 15:21 |
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| mlavalle | the in-tree drivers are side effect free | 15:21 |
| mlavalle | we know that | 15:21 |
| rubasov | mlavalle: one question: what if the two drivers (drv1: that first called set_binding, drv2: that follows from the allocation) thinks differently which level should be the bottom? | 15:21 |
| rubasov | mlavalle: can that ever happen? | 15:22 |
| mlavalle | at least in the case of the in-tree drivers, that cannot happen | 15:22 |
| rubasov | drv2 should never say continue_binding because that contradicts the allocation | 15:22 |
| mlavalle | beacuase does drivers actually don't touch the _next_segments_to_bind | 15:23 |
| rubasov | mlavalle: so it's theoretically possible, but practically not? | 15:23 |
| mlavalle | those ^^^^ | 15:23 |
| mlavalle | I checked last night | 15:23 |
| mlavalle | and I will double check | 15:23 |
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| rubasov | mlavalle: thanks a lot for that | 15:24 |
| mlavalle | and we can doument these assumptions as part of this implementation | 15:24 |
| gibi | mlavalle: do I understand correctly that the proposed change my restrict what an out of tree driver can do? | 15:25 |
| gibi | s/my/might/ | 15:25 |
| rubasov | mlavalle: I think now with your idea I can go ahead and upload a new patchset doing that | 15:25 |
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| gibi | mlavalle: compared to what an out of tree driver can do today | 15:26 |
| mlavalle | gibi: we are going to make the assumption that out of tree drivers that bind at the bottom are side effect free | 15:26 |
| mlavalle | to tell you the true I don't even know if that is an issue | 15:26 |
| gibi | mlavalle: more like 'beacuase does drivers actually don't touch the _next_segments_to_bind' what if out of tree drivers touch it? | 15:26 |
| mlavalle | it doesn't depend on not touching the _next_segments_to_bind attribute in the context | 15:27 |
| mlavalle | I know they do | 15:27 |
| mlavalle | it depends on the fact that the driver that binds at the bottom should be side effect free | 15:27 |
| mlavalle | so we can run it a second time | 15:28 |
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| mlavalle | once we know we are at the bottom | 15:28 |
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| gibi | OK, thanks | 15:28 |
| gibi | the current binding code allows a lot of freedom but based on this discussion it feels that the drivers are not using that freedom | 15:29 |
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| rubasov | mlavalle: thanks a lot for the input, I'll go ahead accordingly with the patch | 15:29 |
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| mlavalle | gibi: in the case of the in-tree drivers, they are certainly not | 15:29 |
| mlavalle | and there aren't a lot of out of tree drivers | 15:30 |
| gibi | I'm fine going forward :) | 15:30 |
| mlavalle | so we can probably work with them | 15:30 |
| gibi | agree | 15:30 |
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| mlavalle | ok, we have a plan to go forward | 15:31 |
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| mlavalle | will look for the next revision to the patch | 15:31 |
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| rubasov | mlavalle: will get back to it this week | 15:32 |
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| mlavalle | rubasov: Thanks! | 15:32 |
| rubasov | mlavalle: thank you | 15:32 |
| gibi | mlavalle: thanks | 15:32 |
| mlavalle | gibi, rubasov: I will continue going though the agenda to leave it on the record. But feel free to leave at any moment ;-) | 15:33 |
| rubasov | mlavalle: I'll have to very soon, sorry | 15:33 |
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| rubasov | bye everyone | 15:34 |
| mlavalle | o/ | 15:34 |
| mlavalle | you can go an enjoy the game of your Visegrad fellow country ;-) | 15:34 |
| mlavalle | #topic RFEs | 15:35 |
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| mlavalle | In regards to https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1727578 | 15:35 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1727578 in neutron "[RFE]Support apply qos policy in VPN service" [Wishlist,Triaged] | 15:35 |
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| mlavalle | we have a patch up for review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/558986/ | 15:36 |
| patchbot | patch 558986 - neutron-vpnaas - WIP: Support vpn service Qos | 15:36 |
| mlavalle | mlavalle thinks he brought this up to the attention of the VPNaaS team, but will try agin this week | 15:36 |
| mlavalle | #action mlavalle to talk to the VPNaaS team about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/558986/ | 15:37 |
| patchbot | patch 558986 - neutron-vpnaas - WIP: Support vpn service Qos | 15:37 |
| * njohnston is still here | 15:37 | |
| mlavalle | njohnston: nice!. Thanks :-) | 15:38 |
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| mlavalle | in regards to https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1578989 | 15:38 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1578989 in neutron "[RFE] Strict minimum bandwidth support (egress)" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Bence Romsics (bence-romsics) | 15:38 |
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| mlavalle | We discussed alternatives to move forward with the WIP patches in the first part of the meeting with rubasov and gibi | 15:39 |
| mlavalle | Patches are here: | 15:39 |
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| mlavalle | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/574781/ | 15:40 |
| patchbot | patch 574781 - neutron-lib - WIP Mechanism driver API: responsible_for_rsc_prov... | 15:40 |
| mlavalle | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/574783/ | 15:40 |
| patchbot | patch 574783 - neutron - WIP Drive binding by placement allocation | 15:40 |
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| mlavalle | In regards to https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1560963 | 15:41 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1560963 in neutron "[RFE] Minimum bandwidth support (egress)" [Wishlist,In progress] | 15:41 |
| mlavalle | slaweq is working on a PoC | 15:42 |
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| mlavalle | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1757044 has been discussed twice by the drivers team. Waiting clarification from submitter | 15:43 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1757044 in neutron "[RFE] neutron L3 router gateway IP QoS" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to LIU Yulong (dragon889) | 15:43 |
| mlavalle | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1708460. The spec is up for review | 15:44 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1708460 in neutron " [RFE] Reaction to network congestion for qos" [Wishlist,Triaged] - Assigned to Fouad Benamrane (ftreqah) | 15:44 |
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| mlavalle | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/445762 | 15:44 |
| patchbot | patch 445762 - neutron-specs - Spec for Explicit Congestion Notification | 15:44 |
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| mlavalle | #action mlavalle to review it | 15:45 |
| njohnston | I'll review it as well. I thought that ECN bits were autonegotiated during transit, and all that we could really do is enable processing of ECN in the network stack. | 15:45 |
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| mlavalle | Thanks! | 15:46 |
| mlavalle | #topic Bugs | 15:46 |
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| mlavalle | We have a recently filed bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1776160 | 15:46 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1776160 in neutron "'burst' does not take effect for neutron egress qos bindlimit by ovs" [Undecided,New] | 15:46 |
| mlavalle | It requires further triaging / investigation | 15:46 |
| mlavalle | feel free to take a look | 15:47 |
| mlavalle | #topic Open Discussion | 15:47 |
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| mlavalle | any other topics we should cover today? | 15:47 |
| mlavalle | dang! Somalia just scored a few minutes ago. Hang in there Poland. Go Poland! | 15:48 |
| mlavalle | #endmeeting | 15:48 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jun 19 15:48:34 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:48 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_qos/2018/neutron_qos.2018-06-19-15.00.html | 15:48 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_qos/2018/neutron_qos.2018-06-19-15.00.txt | 15:48 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_qos/2018/neutron_qos.2018-06-19-15.00.log.html | 15:48 |
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| njohnston | thanks mlavalle! | 15:49 |
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| gibi | thanks | 15:50 |
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| mlavalle | #startmeeting neutron_ci | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jun 19 16:00:24 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mlavalle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_ci)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_ci' | 16:00 |
| mlavalle | Hi there! | 16:00 |
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| njohnston | o/ | 16:02 |
| haleyb | hi | 16:02 |
| mlavalle | hey | 16:02 |
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| mlavalle | so you guys are stuck with me today | 16:02 |
| mlavalle | Poland is playing Senegal and slaweq is watching the game | 16:03 |
| mlavalle | Go Poland! | 16:03 |
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| mlavalle | #topic Actions from previous meeting | 16:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Actions from previous meeting (Meeting topic: neutron_ci)" | 16:03 | |
| mlavalle | slaweq to debug failing test_ha_router_restart_agents_no_packet_lost fullstack test | 16:04 |
| mlavalle | slaweq reported a bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1776459 | 16:04 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1776459 in neutron "TestHAL3Agent.test_ha_router_restart_agents_no_packet_lost fullstack fails" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq) | 16:04 |
| mlavalle | and hasn't been able to get to the root cause | 16:04 |
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| mlavalle | so the test was marked as unstable for the time being | 16:06 |
| mlavalle | and there is a patch to help debugging the problem: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/575710/ | 16:06 |
| patchbot | patch 575710 - neutron - [Fullstack] Ensure connectivity to ext gw before a... | 16:06 |
| mlavalle | mlavalle was goint to talk to the OVO team about the constant time test case | 16:09 |
| mlavalle | I did ;-) | 16:09 |
| mlavalle | lujinluo agreed to take it over and fix it | 16:10 |
| mlavalle | she is out on vacation this week | 16:10 |
| mlavalle | but will work on it as soon as she comes back | 16:10 |
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| mlavalle | #topic Grafana | 16:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Grafana (Meeting topic: neutron_ci)" | 16:11 | |
| mlavalle | Let's look at Grafana: http://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/neutron-failure-rate | 16:11 |
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| manjeets | question about gate and check queue, is gate queue failure rate implies after the patch is approved ? | 16:15 |
| mlavalle | One thing that stands out is the 50% failure of unit tests in the gate queue. Is it the OVO test mentioned above^^^^? | 16:15 |
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| njohnston | I have noticed in the past week a lot of random failures in unit tests in the gate queue; often a recheck would result in a failure in a different set of tests | 16:16 |
| njohnston | for example look at how many times https://review.openstack.org/#/c/570244/ had to be rechecked | 16:17 |
| patchbot | patch 570244 - neutron - Use OVO in ml2/test_db (MERGED) | 16:17 |
| mlavalle | yeah | 16:17 |
| mlavalle | slaweq sent me an email with some of his comments for this meeting | 16:18 |
| mlavalle | and he mentions the same | 16:18 |
| mlavalle | he asks that if we see an issue more that two times | 16:18 |
| mlavalle | let's file a bug so we can work on it | 16:18 |
| njohnston | sounds good | 16:19 |
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| mlavalle | I am also noticing that we have a couple of panels with no data in Grafana | 16:20 |
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| njohnston | that's odd, I have data in all of mine | 16:21 |
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| mlavalle | ahh great | 16:22 |
| mlavalle | so that's my connection | 16:22 |
| manjeets | I think i see data in all panels too | 16:22 |
| mlavalle | good | 16:22 |
| mlavalle | #topic Stable branches | 16:22 |
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| mlavalle | It seems we have a few issues with the stable branches | 16:23 |
| mlavalle | In Queens: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1777190 | 16:24 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1777190 in neutron "All neutron-tempest-plugin-api jobs for stable/queens fails" [Critical,Fix committed] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq) | 16:24 |
| mlavalle | I W+ the fix for this one yesterday | 16:24 |
| mlavalle | In Pike and Ocata we have https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1777506 | 16:25 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1777506 in neutron "neutron-rally job failing for stable/pike and stable/ocata" [Critical,Confirmed] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq) | 16:25 |
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| mlavalle | There are a couple of fixed proposed: | 16:26 |
| mlavalle | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/576451/ | 16:27 |
| patchbot | patch 576451 - neutron (stable/pike) - Use rally 0.12.1 release for stable/pike patches | 16:27 |
| mlavalle | https://review.openstack.org/576567 | 16:27 |
| patchbot | patch 576567 - neutron (stable/ocata) - Use rally 0.12.1 release for stable/pike patches | 16:27 |
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| mlavalle | Let's take a look at them, haleyb if you have some time | 16:27 |
| haleyb | ok | 16:28 |
| mlavalle | slaweq also indicated that we should probably take a closer look at the stable branches queues to make sure they are in working order | 16:29 |
| mlavalle | right now we have haleyb and me as stable revieiwers | 16:30 |
| mlavalle | I think we need another one | 16:30 |
| haleyb | mlavalle: garyk has powers too | 16:30 |
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| haleyb | but we do need another | 16:31 |
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| mlavalle | haleyb: I noticed that one patch of yours got a +2 from me several weeks ago | 16:31 |
| mlavalle | and it has been sitting there since then | 16:31 |
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| mlavalle | ok, let's fix that situation | 16:31 |
| haleyb | +1 | 16:31 |
| mlavalle | and let's keep a closer eye on the stable queues | 16:32 |
| mlavalle | #topic Open Discussion | 16:32 |
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| mlavalle | Anything else to discuss today? | 16:32 |
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| njohnston | would it make sense to set up a grafana for the stable jobs? | 16:33 |
| njohnston | yet another checklist for releasing, but it would definitely give more visibility to error trends for stable releases | 16:33 |
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| mlavalle | njohnston: not a bad idea | 16:33 |
| mlavalle | what do you think haleyb? | 16:33 |
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| manjeets | may be not since the patches for stable branches are limited, I doubt it could be maintenance overhead, but that;'s just my opinion | 16:34 |
| haleyb | yes, that could be a good thing, the data must all be there somewhere in graphite | 16:35 |
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| njohnston | ok, I'll look at adding that | 16:35 |
| mlavalle | njohnston: thanks! | 16:35 |
| mlavalle | #action njohnston to look into adding Grafana dasboard for stable branches | 16:36 |
| mlavalle | anything else? | 16:36 |
| mlavalle | ok, Thanks for attending | 16:36 |
| mlavalle | #endmeeting | 16:37 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jun 19 16:37:03 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:37 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ci/2018/neutron_ci.2018-06-19-16.00.html | 16:37 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ci/2018/neutron_ci.2018-06-19-16.00.txt | 16:37 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ci/2018/neutron_ci.2018-06-19-16.00.log.html | 16:37 |
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| clarkb | Infra meeting time here in a minute | 18:59 |
| clarkb | Anyone else around for that? | 18:59 |
| fungi | i suppose | 19:00 |
| * mordred is here | 19:00 | |
| clarkb | #startmeeting infra | 19:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jun 19 19:01:09 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is clarkb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:01 |
| ianw | o/ | 19:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'infra' | 19:01 |
| clarkb | I know a few of us are traveling or otherwise unable to attend | 19:01 |
| clarkb | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/InfraTeamMeeting#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 19:01 |
| clarkb | #topic Announcements | 19:01 |
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| clarkb | I'm going to be out middayish tomorrow. My brother bought a new drift boat and he wants to take it out with the kids. | 19:02 |
| anteaya | nice | 19:02 |
| clarkb | Other than that just a friendly reminder to take the openstack user survey if you are an operator or user of openstack | 19:03 |
| clarkb | any other announcments? | 19:03 |
| clarkb | #topic Actions from last meeting | 19:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Actions from last meeting (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:04 | |
| clarkb | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2018/infra.2018-06-12-19.01.txt Minutes from last meeting | 19:04 |
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| clarkb | Again no formal actions however the informal one from mordred has been started \o/ | 19:04 |
| clarkb | which leads us into the next topic | 19:05 |
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| clarkb | #topic Specs approval | 19:05 |
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| clarkb | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/565550/ config mgmt and containers | 19:05 |
| patchbot | patch 565550 - openstack-infra/infra-specs - WIP Update config management for the Infra Control... | 19:05 |
| clarkb | This spec is still WIP so not quite up for approval | 19:05 |
| mordred | yah - I need to put in some thoughts about hiera and inventory | 19:05 |
| mordred | and it probably needs more cleaning | 19:06 |
| clarkb | mordred: are you ready for us to start providing feedback? | 19:06 |
| mordred | nah - lemme take one more pass at it | 19:06 |
| mordred | I'll take the WIP off | 19:06 |
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| clarkb | ok I'll keep an eye on it for the WIP to be removed then ping people to tkae a look | 19:07 |
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| clarkb | #topic Priority Efforts | 19:07 |
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| clarkb | On the config management side of things cmurphy isn't able to attend the meeting today but the topic:puppet-4 changes could use some review | 19:08 |
| clarkb | I did a pass last week and will try to do another pass this week. Help is appreciated :) | 19:08 |
| clarkb | ianw: ty for the help there btw | 19:09 |
| mordred | I +A'd one a few minutes ago | 19:09 |
| mordred | but yeah- there are patches | 19:09 |
| clarkb | Other than that, the combined spce is in progress, puppet 4 is making slow but steady progress. Anything else we want to talk about related to config mangaement future and updates? | 19:10 |
| fungi | related stuff later in the mm3 topic | 19:11 |
| clarkb | I mentioned it last week but I think this will make a great PTG topic. I'll work to get a PTG planning etherpad up this week. I hear rumors we should have a schedule out soon too | 19:11 |
| clarkb | Look for that etherpad in an infra list thread | 19:11 |
| clarkb | Ok storyboard | 19:11 |
| clarkb | fungi: ^ anything new we should be aware of with storyboard? How is the outreachy internship bootstrapping going? | 19:12 |
| clarkb | fungi: still with us? | 19:14 |
| fungi | i saw some more discussion in #storyboard with fatema (our outreachy intern) on getting a working dev deployment going and coming to an understanding with how we interact with gerrit | 19:14 |
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| fungi | yep, sorry, too many discussions at once | 19:14 |
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| fungi | the api sig also moved from lp to sb last week | 19:14 |
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| fungi | (and has a related request on the agenda for a repo rename too) | 19:15 |
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| fungi | there's been some passing discussion in #openstack-tc about whether sb should be on the help wanted list, and/or whether having it not overshadowed by openstack would increase visibility | 19:15 |
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| fungi | i think that's it for this week | 19:16 |
| clarkb | cool, thanks for the update | 19:16 |
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| clarkb | #topic General Topics | 19:17 |
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| clarkb | ianw and fungi have done work to add the new platform9 managed cloud running on packethost | 19:17 |
| fungi | mostly ianw | 19:17 |
| fungi | almost entirely | 19:17 |
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| clarkb | it is running jobs with its max-servers value set to 95 now | 19:18 |
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| mordred | \o/ | 19:18 |
| clarkb | seems to be doing ok, though I've noticed there are some boot errors (could just be image conversion timeouts) and we seem to have peaked at ~45 instances which may indicate our quota is too high (or there just wasn't enough demand to go higher) | 19:18 |
| anteaya | thank you ianw and fungi | 19:18 |
| fungi | they're also talking about providing arm64 instances soon too | 19:19 |
| ianw | hmm, there should be logs about quota | 19:19 |
| clarkb | Keep an eye out for new/weird/unexpected behaviors from jobs running on these instances | 19:19 |
| fungi | it'll be nice to have some cross-provider redundancy for arm64-based jobs | 19:19 |
| clarkb | ianw: nodepool logs probably have insights too, I just haven't had a chance to look at them yet juggling meetings and meeting prep | 19:19 |
| ianw | i believe we're soon getting access to a london based cloud for arm64 too, there is a ticket open. will add when we get credentials | 19:20 |
| clarkb | in any case it appears to be going well so thank you to our new infra donors and to those of us that helped set it up | 19:21 |
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| clarkb | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/infra-services-naming winterstack naming | 19:22 |
| clarkb | I wanted to remind everyone of ^ the feedback has been helpful I think | 19:22 |
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| clarkb | I'll resync with jbryce on further refining what we have there | 19:24 |
| mordred | ++ | 19:24 |
| fungi | yes, has been a remarkably insightful process, more than i anticipated | 19:24 |
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| clarkb | but you still have time to get more ideas onto paper :) | 19:24 |
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| clarkb | Next item is we need to do an SSL certificate refresh. June 30 is when most of our certs expire. I expect I will be doing the actual purchasing and flipping of certs, but had a couple questions I thought I would ask the group. | 19:25 |
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| clarkb | The first is do we want 1 year or longer certs? and second should I refresh certs that won't be expiring soon to get them on the same schedule? | 19:26 |
| fungi | i did 1 year last time because i thought we might be switching to startcom/startssl... now glad we didn't ;) | 19:26 |
| mordred | I could see refreshingso that they're all on the same schedule | 19:27 |
| fungi | i also lumped in any which were expiring in the next few to six months usually to try and get them eventually in sync | 19:27 |
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| anteaya | I vote 1 year for certs | 19:27 |
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| anteaya | things change so quickly I go with the shortest version that makes sense | 19:27 |
| clarkb | ya possible that winterstack naming will play into that too | 19:28 |
| anteaya | as fer cert cadence I leave that up to the person refreshing | 19:28 |
| clarkb | if we don't whitelabel some serivces having paid less for shorter cert may be good | 19:28 |
| anteaya | which isn't me | 19:28 |
| fungi | i've also been trying out letsencrypt but so far am not sure what our configuration management solution would look like for that given there's a chicken-and-egg sort of process with adding the certs (either need a webserver up on that site already, or need to be able to temporarily add/remove records from dns) | 19:28 |
| clarkb | fungi: one approach I've seen is to front everything with a proxy that redirects the letsencrypt renewals to a dedicated renewal host | 19:29 |
| clarkb | I don't think that will work too well for us though | 19:29 |
| fungi | ick. that's turning mediocre security into terrible security | 19:29 |
| ianw | ... hence fungi asking about rax dns api keys? | 19:29 |
| fungi | nope | 19:30 |
| fungi | i just wanted to set dns records for the lists-dev01.o.o server i'm using for the mm3 poc | 19:30 |
| fungi | nothing nearly so exciting | 19:30 |
| ianw | oh :) i thought you might be POC a renewal bot :) | 19:30 |
| clarkb | ok, I'll plan to buy 1 year renewals and look to renew anything that expires iwthin the next 6 months or so | 19:31 |
| clarkb | and now we can talk about fungi's mailman 3 work | 19:31 |
| clarkb | mostly I was interested in hearing baout the trouble you've had bringing up and instance running it to see if the crowd had any suggestions or working around them | 19:32 |
| fungi | oh, heh | 19:32 |
| fungi | yeah, it's turned into a major rabbit hole | 19:32 |
| fungi | to preface, the tc and first contact sig and others have been expressing interest in finding ways to make interacting with the community easier while still using mailing lists | 19:33 |
| fungi | mailman 3 (a complete rewrite of mailman 2 which we use today) has some particular features which make it possible to interact with mailing lists in nonconventional ways, such as posting through a webui | 19:33 |
| fungi | unfortunately, mm3 is a big, complex beast (much more than mm2 is/was) and it's only recently started getting packaged in linux distros | 19:34 |
| fungi | so putting together a proof of concept deployment for people to just play around with has been far more challenging than i anticipated | 19:34 |
| fungi | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mm3poc Mailman 3 Proof of Concept Deployment Notes | 19:35 |
| fungi | so far i have some deployment challenge notes accumulated there | 19:35 |
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| fungi | it exposed, in particular, that we're looking at some not so fun scenarios when it comes to trying to deploy, well, anything on ubuntu bionic (18.04 lts) | 19:35 |
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| fungi | i've just now (mostly during the meeting) determined that the "xenial pc1" suite of packages puppetlabs provides seems to work on bionic, and gets us puppet 4 | 19:36 |
| fungi | so might represent a possible stepping stone | 19:37 |
| clarkb | we've seen lack of bionic packages in othe rplaces too like docker | 19:37 |
| fungi | it at least runs, though as cmurphy's outstanding changes attest, we've still got some configuration updates to get through | 19:37 |
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| clarkb | I dunno if ubuntu is just less important to these groups or if there is something that makes packaging for it challenging | 19:37 |
| fungi | i think deploying in not-containers is increasingly less important to lots of development communities | 19:38 |
| clarkb | could be, though containers tend to still need packages too | 19:38 |
| fungi | especially for web-facing services where they don't feel like packaging all of the numerous (particularly javascript) dependencies | 19:39 |
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| clarkb | if puppetlabs PC1 puppet4 works on bionic do you expect you'll push forward with that? | 19:39 |
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| fungi | so instead of packaging you have some hackish scripted combination of pip install and npm install to get everything into your container image, and then rework the world whenever your scripted assumptions break | 19:39 |
| fungi | well, i mostly just needed some means of exposing a manually-installed mailman3 deployment to people to test out and see what/how we might use it | 19:40 |
| fungi | but yes, if we're interested in deploying/upgrading servers to bionic so far the xenial pc1 suite at puppetlabs looks like our best option for having something workable soonish | 19:41 |
| clarkb | good to know, thanks | 19:41 |
| fungi | even though it says xenial on the tin, it seems to have its dependencies satisfied okay on bionic | 19:41 |
| fungi | (using the xenial-packaged puppet 3 on the other hand broke horribly with bionic's ruby packages) | 19:42 |
| ianw | ++ great to have some initial feedback on bionic hosts | 19:42 |
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| fungi | anyway, other than those initial insights and the fact that there'll be a mailman3 server (in the next day or so at this rate) people can play around with if they're interested in helping, nothing else from me on this topic | 19:43 |
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| clarkb | Thanks again. Next thing I wanted to bring up was mnaser and I are meeting with some kata folks in 45 minutes to talk about kata on zuul | 19:43 |
| clarkb | There is a zoom conference call if others are interested in participating | 19:44 |
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| anteaya | where will the meeting id be posted? | 19:45 |
| clarkb | It was posted to the kata irc channel I can share it too | 19:45 |
| * clarkb finds it | 19:45 | |
| anteaya | thanks | 19:45 |
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| clarkb | https://zoom.us/j/398799714 | 19:45 |
| anteaya | thank you | 19:46 |
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| anteaya | what is the name of the kata irc channel | 19:46 |
| clarkb | #kata-dev on freenode | 19:46 |
| anteaya | I've learned it isn't #kata | 19:46 |
| anteaya | thanks | 19:46 |
| clarkb | that is all I had | 19:46 |
| clarkb | #topic Open Discussion | 19:46 |
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| clarkb | Anything else? | 19:47 |
| clarkb | Happy to end early so I can grab lunch before the kata meeting | 19:47 |
| clarkb | :) | 19:47 |
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| ianw | not sure if people saw my note about the opensuse mirror | 19:47 |
| ianw | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-infra/2018-June/005972.html | 19:48 |
| fungi | ahh, right. we could probably find ways to manually shard that across a couple of volumes if we absolutely must | 19:48 |
| clarkb | ianw: what did you think of cmurphy's suggestion of removing something like half the packages? | 19:48 |
| ianw | fungi: it's not volumes, but directories | 19:48 |
| ianw | clarkb: i'm happy to review any changes :) | 19:49 |
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| ianw | it will require pruning the list before the rsync somehow | 19:49 |
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| clarkb | oh right its rsync | 19:49 |
| clarkb | that does make it more complicated | 19:49 |
| ianw | maybe something like get a list of files, sed/awk/munge it, then feed that back | 19:49 |
| fungi | ianw: oh, right, moving some to another volume doesn't solve it i guess | 19:50 |
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| fungi | and yes, some regular expression to be able to exclude files by name pattern would probably be needed to make the filtering with rsync possible | 19:50 |
| ianw | if the duplicates can be pattern matched out, that would be great | 19:51 |
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| fungi | or if suse has a reprepro-like solution... | 19:51 |
| clarkb | another option may be to proxy cache tumbleweed instead | 19:51 |
| clarkb | we do have a really good cache hit rate on port 8080 of our mirror nodes | 19:51 |
| clarkb | it is around 95% | 19:51 |
| ianw | yes, proxy caching may be the way forward | 19:52 |
| ianw | it's another (open)AFS issue to be aware of when setting things up | 19:52 |
| ianw | unfortunately, it seems most people find out about these limits like us, when everything stops working :) | 19:53 |
| clarkb | I'd be comfortable with that change personally | 19:53 |
| fungi | proxy caching's down side is that it doesn't help us if the site backing it goes down | 19:54 |
| fungi | so i wouldn't want to rely on it for some of our more heavily used data sets like pypi or ubuntu/centos | 19:54 |
| clarkb | correct, but it is also tumbleweed I think we expect a reasonable amount of volatility there in return for testing all the new stuff | 19:54 |
| clarkb | fungi: ++ | 19:54 |
| fungi | that said, "your mirrors can't be copied to afs" is likely something suse would consider worth solving for? | 19:55 |
| clarkb | maybe process forward here is to communicate the problem to suse more directly, ask if they are interested in addressing it. Then if that doesn't happen switch to caching instead | 19:55 |
| fungi | i wouldn't be surprised if a lot of (particularly university) networks keep distro package mirrors on afs | 19:55 |
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| ianw | i'm guessing debian "solved" this 25+ years ago with directory names in the pool because probably filesystems of the day didn't like huge numbers of files in a single directory too | 19:56 |
| clarkb | (like a bug in their bugzilla) | 19:56 |
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| fungi | ianw: right | 19:56 |
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| ianw | clarkb: i'm happy to send a bug. changing things to proxy mirrors, or rsync magic, etc, i'm happy to review and work with anyone who wants to drive it. i'll send a follow-up mail with some of our dicussion from here | 19:57 |
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| clarkb | ianw: sounds good, thanks | 19:58 |
| clarkb | and we are bsaically at time. Find us in #openstack-infra if anything else comes up | 19:59 |
| clarkb | thank you everyone | 19:59 |
| clarkb | #endmeeting | 19:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jun 19 19:59:05 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2018/infra.2018-06-19-19.01.html | 19:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2018/infra.2018-06-19-19.01.txt | 19:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2018/infra.2018-06-19-19.01.log.html | 19:59 |
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