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| eumel8 | good morning | 07:01 |
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| eumel8 | #startmeeting OpenStack I18n Meeting | 07:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Mar 8 07:02:09 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is eumel8. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 07:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 07:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: OpenStack I18n Meeting)" | 07:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_i18n_meeting' | 07:02 |
| eumel8 | Who's there for I18n meeting? | 07:02 |
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| jftalta | Hi | 07:22 |
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| jftalta | Frank ? Ian ? | 07:22 |
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| eumel8 | Hi jftalta | 07:24 |
| eumel8 | waited 20 min and want to move to my work now | 07:24 |
| jftalta | ok | 07:25 |
| eumel8 | we can meet in i18n in 60 min? | 07:25 |
| eumel8 | maybe ianychoi is than also at home ;) | 07:25 |
| jftalta | not possible for me today :-( | 07:25 |
| eumel8 | oh, ok | 07:26 |
| eumel8 | then next week ;) | 07:26 |
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| ianychoi | eumel8, 1 hr later? | 07:27 |
| eumel8 | could be possible | 07:27 |
| eumel8 | we will try... | 07:27 |
| eumel8 | #endmeeting | 07:27 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 07:27 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Mar 8 07:27:36 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 07:27 |
| eumel8 | thx | 07:27 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2018/openstack_i18n_meeting.2018-03-08-07.02.html | 07:27 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2018/openstack_i18n_meeting.2018-03-08-07.02.txt | 07:27 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2018/openstack_i18n_meeting.2018-03-08-07.02.log.html | 07:27 |
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| gmann_ | #startmeeting qa | 07:59 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Mar 8 07:59:47 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gmann_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 07:59 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 07:59 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'qa' | 07:59 |
| gmann_ | who all here today? | 08:00 |
| masayukig[m] | o/ | 08:01 |
| gmann_ | masayukig[m]: seems like 2 of us, let;'s wait for more people | 08:01 |
| gmann_ | andreaf: afazekas chandankumar ping | 08:01 |
| masayukig[m] | yeah | 08:02 |
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| * masayukig[m] is sitting next to gmann now | 08:02 | |
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| gmann_ | let's start or we can just speak f2f with some drink :) | 08:03 |
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| masayukig[m] | heh | 08:03 |
| gmann_ | anyways let's start. | 08:03 |
| gmann_ | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/QATeamMeeting#Agenda_for_Mar_8th_2018_.280800_UTC.29 | 08:03 |
| gmann_ | today agenda ^^ | 08:03 |
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| gmann_ | This is probably last meeting as we discussed in PTG to have office hours only | 08:04 |
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| gmann_ | So i will be using this meeting as publishing the new office hour time etc | 08:04 |
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| gmann_ | #topic Previous Meeting Action review | 08:04 |
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| andreaf | o/ | 08:04 |
| gmann_ | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2018/qa.2018-02-22-08.00.html | 08:05 |
| gmann_ | this is more pre PTG things and all done | 08:05 |
| gmann_ | andreaf: hi | 08:05 |
| gmann_ | #topic Rocky PTG Summary | 08:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Rocky PTG Summary (Meeting topic: qa)" | 08:05 | |
| gmann_ | i sent the summary for PTG over mail | 08:05 |
| gmann_ | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-March/128002.html | 08:05 |
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| gmann_ | you can also find the details on etherpad #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/qa-rocky-ptg | 08:06 |
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| masayukig[m] | gmann_: thanks for the mail! I think we actually still need to discuss interop things | 08:07 |
| masayukig[m] | in the dev-ml, gerrit, etc | 08:07 |
| gmann_ | we captured the Rocky priority also #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/qa-rocky-ptg-rocky-priority | 08:07 |
| gmann_ | masayukig[m]: yea, so that we will keep discussing on gerrit probably | 08:08 |
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| gmann_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/521602/ | 08:08 |
| masayukig[m] | gmann_: yeah, that should be the good place | 08:08 |
| gmann_ | or the new patch mentioned in that | 08:08 |
| gmann_ | from QA perspetive, it become little hard to own the new plugins repo | 08:09 |
| gmann_ | i am totally fine to help and share the review bandwidth for interop tests | 08:09 |
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| gmann_ | but owning the new interop plugin repo might be difficult for us | 08:09 |
| andreaf | gmann_ the proposal was only to have them under QA governance it doesn't mean we have to write the tests or anything | 08:10 |
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| andreaf | gmann_ there is not much difference in being responsible for reviews in tempest or in a plugin from my perpsective | 08:10 |
| andreaf | gmann_ the only difference would be with heat since their tests are in gabbi | 08:11 |
| gmann_ | andreaf: yea, i agree. and i think that's was our wed discussion to have the in tempest | 08:11 |
| andreaf | gmann_ but pretty much reviews for interop tests would be "do not change it" in most cases | 08:11 |
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| gmann_ | so it is not very clear to me that it should go under QA repos as it was mentioned that it is project own things | 08:12 |
| andreaf | gmann_ well with teams using plugins it would be much less work for us and for the teams | 08:12 |
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| masayukig[m] | gmann_: yeah, I agree. It should be described more details | 08:13 |
| gmann_ | current gerrit and comments does not say clearly that it has to be in QA repo. | 08:13 |
| andreaf | what do you mean by "QA repo"? | 08:14 |
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| masayukig[m] | Who should write, review, maintain, etc..? | 08:14 |
| gmann_ | under QA governance as QA maintained deliverables . | 08:14 |
| masayukig[m] | I feel some gaps are still there | 08:15 |
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| andreaf | well devstack-plugin-ceph and devstack-plugin-container are under QA governance and we do not do really much with those | 08:15 |
| andreaf | having the repo under the QA governance by itself is not a burden at all I think | 08:16 |
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| gmann_ | i am waiting to have clear view on this patch and see what it mean for us as per maintenance and owning means - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/550571/ | 08:16 |
| gmann_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/550571/ | 08:17 |
| masayukig[m] | andreaf: It's nice if everyone think so | 08:17 |
| gmann_ | yea let's see how it is structure and what all team are in core team which are the key. | 08:17 |
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| masayukig[m] | anyway, I think we can clarify that in that patch | 08:17 |
| andreaf | masayukig[m] the only thing that is expected from the qa team is to do reviews on interop tests | 08:18 |
| andreaf | but thats true with any solution we may come up with, whether it's tempest, original plugins, extra plugins | 08:18 |
| gmann_ | agree but that was not written clearly. it is being written as plugins repo own by QA team. which is not clear to me | 08:18 |
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| masayukig[m] | andreaf: yeah, that's my expectation | 08:19 |
| gmann_ | review with all plugin repo is all fine. | 08:19 |
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| gmann_ | anyways, i think chris is putting it in more better and clear way in his patch. | 08:19 |
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| gmann_ | we can discuss there. | 08:19 |
| andreaf | ok | 08:19 |
| gmann_ | as long as core team is more than QA and interop and projects it make sense than having only QA team as core | 08:20 |
| gmann_ | let's move next as we are in ops meetup and about to close the venue | 08:20 |
| gmann_ | #topic Vancouver Summit Planning | 08:21 |
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| gmann_ | i sent mail for QA Brainstorming ideas. Forum Topic. | 08:21 |
| gmann_ | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-March/127947.html | 08:21 |
| gmann_ | please write the ideas of Forum topic on mentioned etherpad | 08:21 |
| gmann_ | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/YVR-qa-brainstorming | 08:21 |
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| masayukig[m] | gmann_: sure | 08:22 |
| masayukig[m] | thanks | 08:22 |
| gmann_ | #topic Updated Meeting Time | 08:22 |
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| gmann_ | as we discussed the new time for QA meeting. | 08:22 |
| gmann_ | we will have only office hours on every Thursday at 9:00 UTC and 17:00 UTC. | 08:23 |
| gmann_ | no more meeting. | 08:23 |
| gmann_ | if that went well we will continue on with office hour otherwise we can think of bringing meeting back | 08:23 |
| gmann_ | i will update the wiki and send mail also. | 08:23 |
| masayukig[m] | ++ | 08:23 |
| gmann_ | #action gmann_ to update the meeting things on wifi and ML | 08:24 |
| gmann_ | #topic Tempest | 08:24 |
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| gmann_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/tempest+status:open | 08:24 |
| gmann_ | current open reviews ^^ | 08:24 |
| gmann_ | anything on tempest or i would like to jump on open discussion | 08:25 |
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| masayukig[m] | move to the open discussion? | 08:25 |
| gmann_ | k | 08:26 |
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| gmann_ | #topic Open Discussion | 08:26 |
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| gmann_ | anything to discus more | 08:26 |
| masayukig[m] | nothing from my side | 08:26 |
| gmann_ | andreaf: ? | 08:26 |
| andreaf | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+topic:multinode_zuulv3 could use some review love :) | 08:27 |
| gmann_ | andreaf: sure, i will try to do next week. | 08:27 |
| gmann_ | we are in OPS meetup straight from PTG | 08:27 |
| masayukig[m] | same here | 08:27 |
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| andreaf | ah right cool | 08:28 |
| gmann_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+topic:multinode_zuulv3 | 08:28 |
| andreaf | gmann_ perhaps you want ask if people is interested in QA SIG? | 08:28 |
| gmann_ | ah yea | 08:28 |
| gmann_ | we had discussion on QA tools but did not specify the SIG things | 08:29 |
| gmann_ | but we are discussing having OPS meetup and PTG together and that will be good for QA SIG thing also | 08:29 |
| gmann_ | but that is not decided it is just input from people | 08:29 |
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| gmann_ | anythings else | 08:31 |
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| andreaf | not from me | 08:32 |
| gmann_ | let's close then. | 08:32 |
| gmann_ | masayukig[m]: andreaf thanks for joining | 08:32 |
| gmann_ | #endmeeting | 08:33 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Mar 8 08:33:02 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 08:33 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2018/qa.2018-03-08-07.59.html | 08:33 |
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| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2018/qa.2018-03-08-07.59.txt | 08:33 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2018/qa.2018-03-08-07.59.log.html | 08:33 |
| masayukig[m] | :) | 08:33 |
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| gibi | #startmeeting nova notification | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Mar 8 14:00:04 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gibi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova notification)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_notification' | 14:00 |
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| gibi | #endmeeting | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Mar 8 14:00:13 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_notification/2018/nova_notification.2018-03-08-14.00.html | 14:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_notification/2018/nova_notification.2018-03-08-14.00.txt | 14:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_notification/2018/nova_notification.2018-03-08-14.00.log.html | 14:00 |
| jaypipes | o/ | 14:00 |
| gibi | #startmeeting nova | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Mar 8 14:00:24 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gibi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| gibi | this one :) | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova' | 14:00 |
| mriedem | o/ | 14:00 |
| jaypipes | o/ | 14:00 |
| takashin | o/ | 14:00 |
| stephenfin | o/ | 14:00 |
| edmondsw | o/ | 14:00 |
| edleafe | \o | 14:00 |
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| gibi | so I will be you host today as melwitt is on vacation | 14:01 |
| lyarwood | \o | 14:01 |
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| hrw | o/ | 14:01 |
| gibi | I forget to updat the agenda on the wiki so it will be a bit hectic meeting. sorry for that | 14:01 |
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| tssurya | o/ | 14:02 |
| gibi | anyhow, welcome back from the PTG | 14:02 |
| gibi | let's get started | 14:02 |
| gibi | #topic Release News | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Release News (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:02 | |
| gibi | Queens has been released! | 14:03 |
| dansmith | o/ | 14:03 |
| gibi | https://releases.openstack.org/queens/index.html | 14:03 |
| hrw | yay | 14:03 |
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| gibi | the Rocky release schedule is available https://releases.openstack.org/rocky/schedule.html | 14:04 |
| cdent | oh hai | 14:04 |
| gibi | R-0 is end of August | 14:05 |
| gibi | any comment on the release news? | 14:05 |
| gibi | #topic Bugs (stuck/critical) | 14:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (stuck/critical) (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:06 | |
| gibi | the critical bug list is empty | 14:06 |
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| jaypipes | I feel so empty inside. | 14:07 |
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| dansmith | jaypipes: you're not alone. | 14:07 |
| gibi | there are 5 untriaged, untagged bugs based on the query https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.tag=-*&field.status%3Alist=NEW | 14:07 |
| gibi | either we are cool at triaging or I'm looking at it wrong but this number seems low | 14:08 |
| gibi | bauzas: do you have better numbers about untriaged bugs? | 14:08 |
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| mriedem | i count 38 new bugs | 14:09 |
| gibi | anyhow if somebody wants to help with triaging then #link bug triage how-to: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/BugTriage#Tags | 14:09 |
| mriedem | that's excluding tags | 14:09 |
| gibi | mriedem: thanks | 14:09 |
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| gibi | anything else about bugs? | 14:11 |
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| gibi | #topic Reminders | 14:11 |
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| gibi | #link review priorities etherpad https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/rocky-nova-priorities-tracking | 14:12 |
| gibi | the etherpad has some empty sections to be fileld | 14:12 |
| gibi | filled | 14:12 |
| gibi | #info Rocky PTG nova session summaries to be sent out to the dev ML the week of March 12 | 14:13 |
| gibi | I know that jaypipes collects the placement summary in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/rocky-ptg-scheduler-placement-summary | 14:13 |
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| gibi | so you can help him adding stuff there | 14:14 |
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| jaypipes | gibi: I sent it out to dev ML this morning. | 14:14 |
| cdent | #link published placement summary: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-March/128041.html | 14:14 |
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| gibi | jaypipes: ohh, sorry :) | 14:14 |
| gibi | any other reminders? | 14:15 |
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| jaypipes | gibi: nope. | 14:15 |
| gibi | #topic Stable branch status | 14:15 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Stable branch status (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:15 | |
| gibi | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/queens,n,z | 14:16 |
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| gibi | mriedem: did we released 17.0.1 already? | 14:16 |
| mriedem | yes | 14:16 |
| mriedem | yesterday | 14:16 |
| gibi | cool | 14:16 |
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| gibi | #link stable/pike: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/pike,n,z | 14:17 |
| gibi | #link stable/ocata: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/ocata,n,z | 14:17 |
| gibi | any news about stable branch? | 14:17 |
| gibi | branches | 14:17 |
| mriedem | nope | 14:17 |
| mriedem | well, | 14:17 |
| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/548916/ | 14:17 |
| mriedem | get ready for no more EOL | 14:17 |
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| gibi | if nothing else then moving forward to the subteams | 14:19 |
| gibi | #topic Subteam Highlights | 14:19 |
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| gibi | Cells v2 (dansmith) | 14:19 |
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| dansmith | gibi: no cells meeting this week. melwitt was out and we were all sick of each other from last week | 14:19 |
| gibi | :) | 14:19 |
| gibi | thanks | 14:20 |
| dansmith | well, the first part at least | 14:20 |
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| gibi | Scheduler (edleafe) | 14:20 |
| edleafe | I was out for the meeting | 14:20 |
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| edleafe | jaypipes ran it I think | 14:20 |
| gibi | I think it was a pretty short one | 14:21 |
| gibi | asking around if we missed to discuss something on the PTG | 14:21 |
| gibi | Notification (gibi) | 14:21 |
| gibi | on the meeting I just listed my TODOs for the coming weeks / cycles :) | 14:22 |
| gibi | summary is in the weekly status mail #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-March/127992.html | 14:22 |
| gibi | and that mail also serves as a PTG summary from notification perspective | 14:22 |
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| gibi | any other subteam alive? | 14:23 |
| gibi | #topic Stuck Reviews | 14:23 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Stuck Reviews (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:23 | |
| gibi | no item on the agenda | 14:23 |
| gibi | do we have some here? | 14:23 |
| gibi | #topic Open discussion | 14:24 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:24 | |
| gibi | there is one item on the agenda | 14:24 |
| Rambo | Hello,everyone, Can you tell me the present situation of the spec about rebuild a instance booted from volume? | 14:24 |
| Rambo | The link is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/532407/ | 14:24 |
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| gibi | Spec-less blueprint for DB purging needs approval: (discussed informally at PTG): | 14:24 |
| gibi | Rambo: let's have it after the item from the agenda | 14:25 |
| gibi | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/purge-db | 14:25 |
| Rambo | ok | 14:25 |
| dansmith | code for this is is already up and some has already landed, so I hope we're going to approve :) | 14:25 |
| dansmith | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/purge-db | 14:25 |
| gibi | dansmith: I agree. Seems like a well agreed bp | 14:25 |
| dansmith | and we've had like four other attempts at this and a handful of bugs reported | 14:25 |
| gibi | any objections? | 14:25 |
| gibi | #action approve the bp https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/purge-db | 14:26 |
| dansmith | woot | 14:26 |
| gibi | Rambo: it is your turn now | 14:27 |
| Rambo | ok,if any one can tell me about that | 14:27 |
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| gibi | mriedem: I think volume booted VM is your experties | 14:28 |
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| gibi | Rambo: it seems that we have to read your spec | 14:30 |
| Rambo__ | thank you | 14:31 |
| gibi | anything else to discuss? | 14:31 |
| Rambo__ | I am really interested in this,any suggestion is welcome | 14:32 |
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| gibi | If nothing else then let's close the meeting | 14:32 |
| gibi | thanks for being here | 14:33 |
| gibi | #endmeeting | 14:33 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Mar 8 14:33:05 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:33 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2018/nova.2018-03-08-14.00.html | 14:33 |
| hrw | thx for leading it | 14:33 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2018/nova.2018-03-08-14.00.txt | 14:33 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2018/nova.2018-03-08-14.00.log.html | 14:33 |
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| cdent | thanks gibi | 14:34 |
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| mriedem | gibi: the volume-backed rebuild thing has come up in meetings before, just fyi | 14:38 |
| mriedem | not sure why it keeps getting mentioned | 14:38 |
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| gibi | mriedem: somehow volume booted stuff is connected in my head to you | 14:41 |
| gibi | mriedem: sorry for blindly routing it | 14:41 |
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| mriedem | it's fine, it basically is at this point | 14:48 |
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| mlavalle | #startmeeting neutron_drivers | 22:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Mar 8 22:00:43 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mlavalle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 22:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 22:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_drivers' | 22:00 |
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| yamamoto | hi | 22:00 |
| mlavalle | hi there! | 22:00 |
| doude | hi | 22:01 |
| mlavalle | yamamoto: how was your trip back from Dublin? | 22:01 |
| SridarK | hi | 22:01 |
| mlavalle | did you get stuck in Dublin? | 22:01 |
| mlavalle | hi SridarK, doude | 22:01 |
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| yamamoto | everything was mostly on time | 22:02 |
| mlavalle | great, amotoki was stranded until Tuesday morning | 22:02 |
| yamamoto | i guess he enjoyed it | 22:02 |
| mlavalle | he did | 22:03 |
| mlavalle | SridarK, doude: is there a topic you want to bring up in this meeting? | 22:03 |
| SridarK | mlavalle: yes doude has a FWaaS related RFE | 22:04 |
| mlavalle | doude: what is the RFE? | 22:04 |
| doude | yes mlavalle, a bug I tagged as RFE for FWaaS | 22:04 |
| doude | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1702312 | 22:04 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1702312 in neutron "[RFE][FWaaS v2] Does not work with core plugin non based on Neutron DB model" [Undecided,New] | 22:04 |
| doude | it's about re-work FW service plugin to allow pluggable backend | 22:05 |
| doude | like it's done for other services like BGPVPN or LBaaS | 22:05 |
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| SridarK | mlavalle: doude has had a patch out for review as well - but with our priorities for L2 support we were a bit late to make it into Queens | 22:06 |
| doude | yes https://review.openstack.org/#/c/480265/ | 22:07 |
| mlavalle | SridarK: is this something that the FWaaS team wants / can support? | 22:07 |
| SridarK | Also we realized that we did not have a RFE filed so we want to follow process | 22:07 |
| doude | patch is big but it is mostly file renaming | 22:07 |
| SridarK | mlavalle: yes we will support it | 22:07 |
| mlavalle | in that case I don't have a problem approving it | 22:08 |
| mlavalle | yamamoto: any concerns? | 22:08 |
| SridarK | mlavalle: And we have discussed it in our meetngs extensively also | 22:08 |
| yamamoto | is it about db models of fwaas itself? | 22:09 |
| doude | no it does not touch the db model | 22:10 |
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| doude | just decouple it from the service plugin and driver | 22:10 |
| doude | to allow new drivers not based on the DB model | 22:11 |
| doude | https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1_9KkNgIbWYE6tucoym8N7J2xfcQ1XwN8Zuu-ALEUD3U/edit#slide=id.g27fa2ac987_0_0 | 22:11 |
| yamamoto | not based on the fwaas db models right? | 22:11 |
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| doude | I tried to describe that in that diagrams --^ | 22:11 |
| yamamoto | vs neutron etc | 22:11 |
| doude | yes | 22:11 |
| doude | or new driver based on the DB model but which not used the RPC agent mechanism | 22:12 |
| yamamoto | you mean the last page of the doc? | 22:14 |
| doude | yes finally we prefer solution on slide 4 | 22:14 |
| mlavalle | so ignore slide 3? | 22:15 |
| doude | which proposes 2 interface, one for driver not based on the Neutron DB model, and another one which maintain DB transaction | 22:15 |
| mlavalle | and branch on the right is what is currently implemented, right? | 22:16 |
| doude | the actual FWaaS implementation is based on the second interface and adds all agent RPC stuff | 22:16 |
| yamamoto | i'm not sure how it's better than having a separate service plugin for contrail (with possible refactoring to share code) | 22:16 |
| doude | yes mlavalle ignore 3 | 22:16 |
| yamamoto | but if fwaas team is fine with it, i have no problem with it. | 22:16 |
| doude | yes mlavalle branch on the right is the actual implem | 22:17 |
| doude | IMO, that permits to factorize some code like checks and validation | 22:17 |
| SridarK | yamamoto: yes sometime in I or J release we talked abt this but we never did - so we are ok | 22:17 |
| doude | and we can also imagine mixed drivers | 22:18 |
| mlavalle | SridarK: do me a favor. Please indicate in the RFE that the FWaaS team wants to pursue this RFE. Include the pointer to the Google presentation. As soon as that is done, I'll move it approved | 22:18 |
| SridarK | mlavalle: ok will do | 22:19 |
| mlavalle | SridarK, doude: thanks for bringing this up | 22:19 |
| yamamoto | doude: you mean contrail + something other which doesn't use db either? | 22:19 |
| mlavalle | and good luck with the review | 22:19 |
| doude | thanks mlavalle | 22:19 |
| mlavalle | seems like a big patch to me | 22:19 |
| yamamoto | big patch but mostly mechanical it seems | 22:19 |
| doude | yes yamamoto but not sure it's realistic | 22:20 |
| mlavalle | doude: will this approach be usable by other plugins that are not Contrail? | 22:20 |
| doude | yes it is | 22:21 |
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| mlavalle | cool | 22:21 |
| mlavalle | thanks | 22:21 |
| SridarK | mlavalle: done added comments | 22:21 |
| SridarK | mlavalle: yamamoto: we have discussed breaking up the patch as well | 22:21 |
| mlavalle | SridarK, doude: I just marked it approved | 22:22 |
| SridarK | for easier review but as stated yes mostly mechanical | 22:22 |
| SridarK | mlavalle: yamamoto: thanks | 22:22 |
| doude | thanks | 22:22 |
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| yamamoto | it's for contrail monolithic plugin, not contrail ml2 driver, right? | 22:23 |
| yamamoto | (just curious) | 22:23 |
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| doude | yes it is yamamoto | 22:24 |
| mlavalle | yamamoto: yeah it is the monlithic plugin | 22:24 |
| mlavalle | otherwise it would use the DB | 22:24 |
| yamamoto | i got it, thank you | 22:24 |
| doude | but the ML2 plugin will also benefit to that patch because it will have to use the DB interface | 22:25 |
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| doude | like the FirewallAgentDriver | 22:25 |
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| doude | we did the same work on the BGPVPN service plugin | 22:26 |
| doude | I mostly copy the idea here | 22:26 |
| mlavalle | yamamoto: we don't have quorum. it seems amotoki is too tired after all the fun he had in Dublin | 22:26 |
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| mlavalle | doude: cool, the approach is tested | 22:26 |
| mlavalle | yamamoto: but have you seen https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1743480? | 22:27 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1743480 in neutron "[RFE] No way to differentiate beween floating IP networks and external provider networks" [Wishlist,Confirmed] | 22:27 |
| mlavalle | what are your thoughts on that one? | 22:27 |
| yamamoto | i guess we went to ops meeting after that (2 days event in tokyo) | 22:27 |
| yamamoto | even more tired | 22:27 |
| mlavalle | ahhh, yeah, smcginnis was there, right? | 22:28 |
| yamamoto | i don't know. i wasn't there | 22:28 |
| mlavalle | ok | 22:29 |
| yamamoto | i'm not sure about the use case. wondering if auto-fip fits it. | 22:29 |
| mlavalle | but he has a point, doesn't he? | 22:30 |
| yamamoto | after all it seems what they want is a marker for the network which is the default for floating ips | 22:30 |
| yamamoto | yea, i agree there's no suitable mechanism for them right now | 22:31 |
| * smcginnis waves from Tokyo | 22:31 | |
| mlavalle | the network can have router:external=True and still not be suitable for fips, correct? | 22:31 |
| yamamoto | yes | 22:31 |
| mlavalle | hey smcginnis hope I didn't wake you up | 22:32 |
| yamamoto | smcginnis: hi! | 22:32 |
| smcginnis | Nope, just getting up and checking in and happened to see your comment. ;) | 22:32 |
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| mlavalle | yamamoto: thanks for showing up and your comments | 22:39 |
| yamamoto | my understading of the situation is 1. they want to mark some networks for fip allocations 2. gman already has "default" attribute for a similar purpose 3. auto-fip might or might not use the "default" attribute | 22:39 |
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| mlavalle | gman? | 22:40 |
| yamamoto | i wonder if we can avoid having a lot of similar default-for-xxx attributes :-) | 22:40 |
| yamamoto | get me a network | 22:40 |
| mlavalle | ahhh | 22:40 |
| yamamoto | auto-allocated-topology | 22:41 |
| mlavalle | yeah | 22:41 |
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| mlavalle | and yes, I agree, about the default-for-xxx attributes | 22:42 |
| mlavalle | yamamoto: closing the meeting now | 22:43 |
| yamamoto | sure | 22:43 |
| mlavalle | thanks for the attendance | 22:43 |
| yamamoto | thank you | 22:43 |
| mlavalle | #endmeeting | 22:43 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Mar 8 22:43:25 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:43 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2018/neutron_drivers.2018-03-08-22.00.html | 22:43 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2018/neutron_drivers.2018-03-08-22.00.txt | 22:43 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2018/neutron_drivers.2018-03-08-22.00.log.html | 22:43 |
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| SridarK | mlavalle: yamamoto thx | 22:43 |
| mlavalle | SridarK: o/ | 22:43 |
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