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| sagara | Hi | 04:00 |
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| samP | Hi all | 04:00 |
| samP | #startmeeting masakari | 04:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Feb 20 04:00:19 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is samP. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 04:00 |
| tpatil | Hi | 04:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 04:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: masakari)" | 04:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'masakari' | 04:00 |
| samP | Hi all, Thank you for coming | 04:00 |
| samP | #topic High priority items | 04:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "High priority items (Meeting topic: masakari)" | 04:01 | |
| samP | (1) Release | 04:01 |
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| samP | Currently, python-masakariclient is broken | 04:01 |
| samP | And masakari-monitors aslo broken because of that | 04:02 |
| samP | AFAIK, rkmrHonjo and Kengo-san is working on that. | 04:03 |
| rkmrHonjo | samP: Yes. openstack client plugin for masakari already worked by our fix. | 04:03 |
| samP | rkmrHonjo: great. thanks | 04:03 |
| samP | rkmrHonjo: is it on gerrit? | 04:04 |
| rkmrHonjo | samP: No. "masakari" command does not work yet. And we haven't test with openstack-sdk<=0.10.0.(e.g.0.9.19) | 04:04 |
| rkmrHonjo | samP: Should we submit our patch as WIP? | 04:04 |
| samP | rkmrHonjo: OK | 04:04 |
| samP | rkmrHonjo: WIP is OK. | 04:05 |
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| rkmrHonjo | samP: Sure. Could I submit it as new patch set for Monty's patch? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/534883/ Or, other patch? | 04:06 |
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| samP | rkmrHonjo: Got any news from Monty? if not, for now, please submit it as a new patchset | 04:07 |
| rkmrHonjo | No. ok, I(or Takahara) will submit it as a new patch set. | 04:08 |
| samP | One other important issue: Need to create stable/queens branch for those 2 repos | 04:08 |
| samP | After fixing this issue it too late. | 04:08 |
| tpatil | I think you should upload a new PS on the existing Monty's patch | 04:09 |
| rkmrHonjo | samP: I think that we can backport the fixing for stable branch. | 04:09 |
| rkmrHonjo | tpatil: OK. | 04:10 |
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| tpatil | I think let's merge openstack client plugin patch first and then cut the stable/queens branch so that atleast masakari commands will work using openstack client | 04:11 |
| samP | tpatil: rkmrHonjo: if you uploading a new patch set for Monty's patch, I think we better use Co-Authored-By | 04:11 |
| rkmrHonjo | samP: OK, I'll write Co-Authored-By. | 04:13 |
| tpatil | as masakari -monitors are using openstack sdk , everything will work except masakari shell commands | 04:13 |
| samP | tpatil: we have to propose our release candidates before 2/22. For release and cut branches, I have to submit a patch to openstack/relase | 04:15 |
| samP | tpatil: This patch also have some zuul jobs, and need review from release team | 04:16 |
| samP | tpatil: if we can merge openstack client plugin patch today or tomorrow, then I think we have enough time to publish our relase | 04:16 |
| tpatil | samP: that's what I'm proposing as well | 04:17 |
| rkmrHonjo | samP, tpatil: Should I give priority to test masakari-monitors with current fixed masakariclient lather than fixing masakari command? | 04:18 |
| samP | tpatil: got it. | 04:18 |
| tpatil | rkmrHonjo: Yes, this way, atleast masakari monitors and openstack client commands will work | 04:19 |
| samP | rkmrHonjo: I think you should. And please update the patch as soon as possible | 04:19 |
| rkmrHonjo | OK. At first, I'll submit current my code as WIP. And, I'll test masakari-monitors with the patch after that. I'll write the result of it to gerrit. | 04:20 |
| rkmrHonjo | I do it today. | 04:20 |
| samP | rkmrHonjo: thanks | 04:21 |
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| samP | rkmrHonjo: As we agree, please submit it to Monty's patch with Co-Authored-By | 04:22 |
| rkmrHonjo | samP: OK. | 04:22 |
| samP | rkmrHonjo: thanks | 04:22 |
| samP | And for Masakari, stable/queens will be proposed on 2/22 | 04:23 |
| tpatil | I still need to reproduce this LP bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/masakari/+bug/1746229 | 04:24 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1746229 in masakari "masakari-engine recovery looking for URL endpoint for service_name='Compute Service' instead of 'nova'" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Louie Kwan (lkwan) | 04:24 |
| tpatil | This issue is about reloading of config files | 04:24 |
| tpatil | I will update LP bug with our findings today | 04:25 |
| samP | tpatil: We discussed it in last meeting. If it's take time, shall we skip the fix to Rocky? | 04:25 |
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| tpatil | I think it's not a critical or blocker issue so we can skip it to Rocky | 04:26 |
| rkmrHonjo | tpatil: +1 | 04:27 |
| samP | tpatil: thanks. OK, then let's fix it in Rocky and backport it if needed | 04:27 |
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| tpatil | samP: Ok | 04:28 |
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| tpatil | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/masakari/+bug/1739383 | 04:29 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1739383 in masakari "'409 Conflict' occurred when adding reserved_host to aggregate" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to takahara.kengo (takahara.kengo) | 04:29 |
| tpatil | I have posted some review comments on this patch, any update? | 04:29 |
| tpatil | Patch : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/531310/ | 04:30 |
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| samP | Kengo is here? | 04:32 |
| samP | I think not.. | 04:32 |
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| rkmrHonjo | tpatil: Sorry, I and Takahara knew it, but we think that masakariclient is more important. | 04:32 |
| samP | rkmrHonjo: Do you have any info on this? | 04:32 |
| tpatil | Sorry, Dinesh pointe out that those methods are mocked at class level | 04:32 |
| tpatil | so I will take back my review comments | 04:32 |
| rkmrHonjo | tpatil: Ok. Is this patch needed for queen release? If that is "No", I'd like to fix this issue after release and backport it. | 04:33 |
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| tpatil | rkmrHonjo: I'm saying no need to address my review comment | 04:35 |
| tpatil | I have voted +2 on your patch | 04:35 |
| samP | rkmrHonjo: if tpatil has no further comments on this, then we may able to merge this after review | 04:35 |
| rkmrHonjo | tpatil: Oh, really? thanks. | 04:35 |
| samP | tpatil: thanks, got your +2 | 04:36 |
| samP | I will review and merge this right after this meeting | 04:36 |
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| tpatil | Need another +2 and we can merge the above patch in Queens release | 04:37 |
| tpatil | samP: Thanks | 04:37 |
| samP | tpatil: NP | 04:38 |
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| samP | Any other issues relate to release? | 04:38 |
| samP | or you may bring them up any time | 04:38 |
| samP | #topic Masakari Project mascot | 04:39 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Masakari Project mascot (Meeting topic: masakari)" | 04:39 | |
| samP | I wrote some info related to this on wiki meeting page | 04:39 |
| samP | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Masakari#Meeting_date:_20.2F2.2F2018 | 04:40 |
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| samP | How select a mascot and what other projects are using can be found here vv | 04:41 |
| samP | #link https://www.openstack.org/project-mascots/ | 04:41 |
| samP | I will send same info to ML. | 04:41 |
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| samP | Those 2 items in wiki: Asiatic black bear and Gekko are just for reference | 04:42 |
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| samP | Please propose good character for Masakari Mascot | 04:43 |
| rkmrHonjo | OK, I confirm it. | 04:43 |
| sagara | Asiatic black bear +1 | 04:43 |
| tpatil | Freezer and Ironic are already using Bear | 04:44 |
| samP | sagara: yeh, I like that too, but we already have 2 bears in openstack | 04:45 |
| samP | not sure get the approval | 04:45 |
| tpatil | Freezer: Polar Bear and Ironic: Bear | 04:45 |
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| sagara | samP: OK, I will consider another idea | 04:46 |
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| samP | Thanks all.. looking forward to have some interesting ideas.... | 04:47 |
| samP | #topic Critical Bugs/Patches | 04:48 |
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| samP | Any bug or patches need to discuss except discussed above? | 04:48 |
| rkmrHonjo | I think so. | 04:48 |
| samP | rkmrHonjo: any issues? | 04:50 |
| rkmrHonjo | Oh, sorry, no. | 04:52 |
| samP | rkmrHonjo: NP | 04:52 |
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| samP | #topic Discussion points: Need to refine for Rocky | 04:52 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Discussion points: Need to refine for Rocky (Meeting topic: masakari)" | 04:52 | |
| samP | We need to refine this section for Rocky | 04:53 |
| samP | I will edit the etherpad and announce it in ML | 04:53 |
| samP | with the details for discussion. | 04:53 |
| samP | therefore, skip the detailed discussion here | 04:54 |
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| samP | please bring up any issues need to be discussed. | 04:55 |
| samP | #topic AOB | 04:55 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "AOB (Meeting topic: masakari)" | 04:55 | |
| samP | Any other thing to discuss? | 04:55 |
| samP | Please use #openstack-masakari and openstack-dev ML with [masakari] for further discussion. | 04:56 |
| samP | if no items to discuss, let's finish today's meeting | 04:56 |
| samP | Thank you all for your time... | 04:57 |
| rkmrHonjo | bye | 04:57 |
| tpatil | Thank you | 04:57 |
| sagara | thanks, bye | 04:57 |
| samP | #endmeeting | 04:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 04:59 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Feb 20 04:59:09 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 04:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/masakari/2018/masakari.2018-02-20-04.00.html | 04:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/masakari/2018/masakari.2018-02-20-04.00.txt | 04:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/masakari/2018/masakari.2018-02-20-04.00.log.html | 04:59 |
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| ihrachys | #startmeeting neutron_ci | 16:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Feb 20 16:02:11 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ihrachys. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:02 |
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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_ci)" | 16:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_ci' | 16:02 |
| ihrachys | sorry for late start | 16:02 |
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| ihrachys | I don't think we have jlibosva or haleyb today, both on pto | 16:02 |
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| ihrachys | waiting for at least some people to show up | 16:03 |
| slaweq | ihrachys: hi | 16:03 |
| slaweq | sorry for late | 16:03 |
| slaweq | and hello to all of You :) | 16:03 |
| ihrachys | slaweq, hi, np I was late too. so far we are two. | 16:03 |
| slaweq | ok | 16:04 |
| ihrachys | Jakub and Brian are on PTO | 16:04 |
| slaweq | I know about them | 16:04 |
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| ihrachys | ok regardless we are just two, let's do it (quick) | 16:05 |
| ihrachys | #topic Actions from prev meeting | 16:05 |
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| ihrachys | "ihrachys report test_get_service_by_service_and_host_name failure in periodic -pg- job" | 16:05 |
| slaweq | ok | 16:06 |
| ihrachys | I actually still haven't; I noticed that grafana periodic dashboard is broken (?) http://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/neutron-failure-rate?panelId=14&fullscreen | 16:06 |
| ihrachys | not showing data for legacy jobs | 16:06 |
| ihrachys | I suspect it's because we renamed the jobs | 16:06 |
| ihrachys | afair mlavalle was working on moving them into neutron repo | 16:06 |
| slaweq | I think that patch for that was merged already | 16:06 |
| ihrachys | here: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:remove-neutron-periodic-jobs | 16:07 |
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| ihrachys | slaweq, right. but as it often happens we forgot about grafana | 16:07 |
| slaweq | right | 16:07 |
| ihrachys | #action ihrachys to update grafana periodic board with new names | 16:07 |
| ihrachys | as for the original failure in -pg- I guess I should still follow up | 16:08 |
| ihrachys | #action report test_get_service_by_service_and_host_name failure in periodic -pg- job | 16:08 |
| ihrachys | next is "slaweq to backport ovsfw fixes to older stable branches" | 16:08 |
| slaweq | so I checked those patches | 16:09 |
| slaweq | and backport wasn't necessary in fact | 16:09 |
| ihrachys | for neither? | 16:09 |
| slaweq | yes | 16:09 |
| ihrachys | so we know which patch broke it? | 16:09 |
| slaweq | we are using earlier version of ovs there and there is no issue with crush dump there | 16:10 |
| slaweq | and for second patch I know which patch broke hard reboot of instance - this patch is not in Pike nor Ocata | 16:10 |
| ihrachys | hm ok | 16:11 |
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| ihrachys | next was "slaweq to look at http://logs.openstack.org/53/539953/2/check/neutron-fullstack/55e3511/logs/testr_results.html.gz failures" | 16:11 |
| slaweq | yes | 16:12 |
| slaweq | so there is at least 4 different issues spotted in those tests | 16:12 |
| ihrachys | that's https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1673531 right? | 16:12 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1673531 in neutron "fullstack test_controller_timeout_does_not_break_connectivity_sigkill(GRE and l2pop,openflow-native_ovsdb-cli) failure" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Ihar Hrachyshka (ihar-hrachyshka) | 16:12 |
| slaweq | it's one of them | 16:12 |
| slaweq | no, wait | 16:13 |
| slaweq | it is related but this one not describes any specific reason | 16:13 |
| slaweq | so I found and reported couple of issues: | 16:13 |
| slaweq | 1. https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1750337 | 16:13 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1750337 in neutron "Fullstack tests fail due to "block_until_boot" timeout" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq) | 16:13 |
| slaweq | and patch for this one is in review: https://review.openstack.org/546069 | 16:13 |
| slaweq | we discussed about it yesterday | 16:14 |
| slaweq | 2. https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1728948 | 16:14 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1728948 in neutron "fullstack: test_connectivity fails due to dhclient crash" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq) | 16:14 |
| slaweq | patch for this one is also ready https://review.openstack.org/#/c/545820/ | 16:14 |
| slaweq | 3. https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1750334 | 16:14 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1750334 in neutron "ovsdb commands timeouts cause fullstack tests failures" [High,Confirmed] | 16:14 |
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| slaweq | for this one I don't know exactly how to fix it but maybe otherwiseguy can help? | 16:15 |
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| ihrachys | slaweq, can the timeout be legit because of high load you saw? | 16:15 |
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| slaweq | 4. sometimes tests fails with "good" reason so network is interrupted, like e.g. http://logs.openstack.org/84/545584/1/check/neutron-fullstack/e49378a/logs/testr_results.html.gz | 16:16 |
| slaweq | yes, it's possible that this high load cause timeouts in ovsdb commands also | 16:16 |
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| slaweq | but I really didn't have more time to check all those issues this week | 16:17 |
| ihrachys | slaweq, you mean "RuntimeError: Networking interrupted after controllers have vanished" is red herring for some other issue that we already track in other plac? | 16:17 |
| ihrachys | *place | 16:17 |
| ihrachys | slaweq, ok we're landing the workers patch and will see if it gets better. | 16:17 |
| slaweq | yes | 16:17 |
| ihrachys | great progress | 16:18 |
| slaweq | and I will try also to dig more in this interrupted networking errors if it will happen more | 16:18 |
| slaweq | but I think it's better and better :) | 16:18 |
| ihrachys | next was "mlavalle to look into linuxbridge ssh timeout failures" but mlavalle is offline so we will just repeat it | 16:18 |
| ihrachys | #action mlavalle to look into linuxbridge ssh timeout failures | 16:18 |
| ihrachys | #topic Grafana | 16:19 |
| ihrachys | http://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/neutron-failure-rate | 16:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Grafana (Meeting topic: neutron_ci)" | 16:19 | |
| slaweq | neutron-tempest-ovsfw is definitely much better than it was last week :) | 16:20 |
| ihrachys | I was watching functional job the previous week and it was always at average of ~10-15% (spikes to 20%, dips to 0%) | 16:21 |
| ihrachys | slaweq, yeah, and dvr scenarios are also pretty good now | 16:21 |
| slaweq | :) | 16:21 |
| ihrachys | not same for linuxbridge | 16:21 |
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| slaweq | linuxbridge and tempest are still the worst ones | 16:22 |
| slaweq | tempest/fullstack/s | 16:22 |
| slaweq | sorry | 16:22 |
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| ihrachys | yeah | 16:23 |
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| ihrachys | mlavalle, good day sir :) | 16:23 |
| mlavalle | sorry, got distracted | 16:23 |
| slaweq | hi mlavalle | 16:23 |
| mlavalle | hi | 16:23 |
| ihrachys | mlavalle, we were going through grafana | 16:23 |
| mlavalle | ok cool | 16:24 |
| ihrachys | mlavalle, one thing is functional, it seems rather stable, on par with unit tests | 16:24 |
| mlavalle | that's great | 16:24 |
| ihrachys | both show average failure in check queue around 10-15% | 16:24 |
| ihrachys | well it's slightly lower for unit tests I guess | 16:24 |
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| ihrachys | but then one may wonder if it's because more patches legitly break functional tests than unit tests | 16:25 |
| ihrachys | the best validation would be comparing gates I guess | 16:25 |
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| ihrachys | functional mostly stays at 0% but we have a spike to 15% right now there. | 16:25 |
| ihrachys | one complexity with using grafana to validate anything is that afaiu it captures results for all branches | 16:26 |
| ihrachys | so if e.g. we stabilize functional in master but not stable/queens, and people post patches to the latter, it will show as failure in grafana | 16:26 |
| mlavalle | ahh, right | 16:26 |
| ihrachys | how do we deal with it | 16:27 |
| ihrachys | maybe we should actually make the dashboard about master only | 16:27 |
| mlavalle | I would say so | 16:27 |
| ihrachys | (I hope grafite carries the data to distinguish) | 16:27 |
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| mlavalle | yeah, if the underlying platform carries the data, then we should strive for that | 16:27 |
| ihrachys | ok, I will have a look | 16:28 |
| ihrachys | #action ihrachys to update grafana boards to include master data only | 16:28 |
| ihrachys | and I guess we postpone decision on functional voting till next time in 2weeks | 16:28 |
| slaweq | should we then do also dashboard for stable branches? | 16:28 |
| slaweq | or it is not neccessary? | 16:29 |
| ihrachys | slaweq, yeah and I was actually planning to do it for quite a while | 16:29 |
| ihrachys | that's tangential though | 16:29 |
| slaweq | ok :) | 16:29 |
| slaweq | just asking to not forget about it :) | 16:29 |
| ihrachys | at this point you should know when I plan something it doesn't happen | 16:29 |
| slaweq | LOL | 16:30 |
| ihrachys | I will add a new board in the patch | 16:30 |
| slaweq | if You will point me when exactly is should be done I can do it | 16:30 |
| ihrachys | nah I should do SOMETHING right? | 16:30 |
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| slaweq | ok, as You want :) | 16:31 |
| mlavalle | you do more than enough | 16:31 |
| mlavalle | and we are thankful | 16:31 |
| slaweq | ++ | 16:31 |
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| ihrachys | so, fullstack, we already went through it before mlavalle joined, but basically tl;dr is we land a bunch of slaweq's patches and will see if they fix other issues we may have with high load on the system | 16:32 |
| ihrachys | hence skipping it now | 16:32 |
| ihrachys | #topic Scenarios | 16:32 |
| mlavalle | ok | 16:32 |
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| mlavalle | thanks for the summary | 16:32 |
| ihrachys | with slaweq's patches for ovsfw we seem to be in great place for both dvr scenarios and ovsfw jobs now | 16:32 |
| ihrachys | but not so much for linuxbridge | 16:33 |
| ihrachys | mlavalle, afair you planned to have a look at ssh timeouts in the linuxbridge scenarios job | 16:33 |
| ihrachys | have you got a chance to? | 16:33 |
| mlavalle | I didn't have the time | 16:33 |
| mlavalle | but I will try this week | 16:33 |
| ihrachys | ok | 16:34 |
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| ihrachys | let's check if all failures are same in a latest run | 16:34 |
| mlavalle | ok | 16:34 |
| ihrachys | http://logs.openstack.org/69/546069/1/check/neutron-tempest-plugin-scenario-linuxbridge/8561cce/logs/testr_results.html.gz | 16:35 |
| ihrachys | yeah seems exactly the same 4 failures | 16:35 |
| ihrachys | I guess once they are tackled, we'll have another green job | 16:36 |
| slaweq | mlavalle: I can try to have a look on those issues as You are probably busy with preparing to PTG | 16:36 |
| mlavalle | slaweq: if you have time in your hands, yes, please go ahead | 16:36 |
| slaweq | sure, I will try to debug it | 16:37 |
| ihrachys | speaking of green jobs, I suggest we also consider making the dvr scenarios job voting if it survives the next 2 weeks | 16:37 |
| mlavalle | THanks | 16:37 |
| mlavalle | ihrachys: yeah | 16:37 |
| ihrachys | and the same for ovsfw job | 16:37 |
| mlavalle | it's early in the cycle, so this is the time to be agresive with this type of things | 16:37 |
| slaweq | I agree | 16:38 |
| ihrachys | ok. when we make it voting, do we make it voting in both queues? | 16:38 |
| mlavalle | let's go with check | 16:38 |
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| ihrachys | ok | 16:39 |
| ihrachys | we can revisit gate if it's proved to be stable with all new jobs | 16:39 |
| mlavalle | yeah | 16:39 |
| ihrachys | #topic Bugs | 16:41 |
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| ihrachys | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?field.tag=gate-failure&orderby=status&start=0 | 16:41 |
| ihrachys | those are all bugs tagged with gate-failure | 16:41 |
| ihrachys | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1724253 | 16:41 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1724253 in BaGPipe "error in netns privsep wrapper: ImportError: No module named agent.linux.ip_lib" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Thomas Morin (tmmorin-orange) | 16:41 |
| ihrachys | this one is weird, in that it doesn't really seem to be a gate issue for neutron, and I suspect not for bagpipe either | 16:42 |
| ihrachys | because they probably wouldn't have gate broken for months :) | 16:42 |
| ihrachys | tmorin had this patch for neutron to make our scripts reusable for them: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/503280/ | 16:43 |
| ihrachys | not sure why the patch is not linked to the bug | 16:44 |
| ihrachys | but I think it's related | 16:44 |
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| ihrachys | I see fullstack failed in a weird way there though | 16:46 |
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| ihrachys | last thing I want is to break fullstack with this :) | 16:46 |
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| ihrachys | but apart from the failure that should be fixed, the patch seems innocent enough to help their project | 16:46 |
| * slaweq will cry if fullstack will be totally broken again :) | 16:47 | |
| ihrachys | earlier I suggested the script is not part of neutron api and shouldn't be reused but maybe it's too pedantic and they know what they do | 16:47 |
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| ihrachys | regardless, I removed gate-failure tag from the bug since no gate is broken | 16:48 |
| ihrachys | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1744983 | 16:48 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1744983 in neutron "coverage job fails with timeout" [High,Confirmed] | 16:48 |
| ihrachys | have we seen unit test / coverage job timeouts lately? | 16:49 |
| ihrachys | we merged https://review.openstack.org/537016 that bumped time for the job lately. did it help? | 16:49 |
| mlavalle | I haven't seen it lately | 16:49 |
| ihrachys | I can't recollect timeouts in last several weeks so maybe it's gone | 16:49 |
| slaweq | I can't remember if I saw such timeouts lately | 16:49 |
| ihrachys | ok let me close it; we can reopen if it resurfaces | 16:49 |
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| ihrachys | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1660612 | 16:51 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1660612 in neutron "Tempest full jobs time out on execution" [High,Confirmed] | 16:51 |
| ihrachys | not sure if this one still happens much. but back when I looked into it, it was because of low concurrency (1) for tempest scenarios | 16:51 |
| ihrachys | (not our scenarios; tempest scenarios that are executed in -full jobs) | 16:52 |
| ihrachys | I proposed this in tempest: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/536598/1/tox.ini | 16:52 |
| ihrachys | but it seems like they are not entirely supportive about the change | 16:52 |
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| ihrachys | the -full jobs, they are still defined in our zuul config | 16:54 |
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| ihrachys | but the problem is that we don't control how we execute tox env from tempest | 16:54 |
| ihrachys | it's devstack-gate that does it | 16:54 |
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| clarkb | in the new zuul tempest jobs it is tempest that does it fwiw | 16:55 |
| clarkb | (via the in tree job config) | 16:55 |
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| ihrachys | clarkb, we have some neutron full jobs too. those trigger d-g for sure. | 16:56 |
| clarkb | ya if that haven't been transitioned yet they will still hit d-g | 16:57 |
| ihrachys | clarkb, but it's good point, we also want to touch jobs coming from other repos | 16:57 |
| ihrachys | clarkb, in tempest repo, I see run-tempest role used. where is it defined? | 16:58 |
| ihrachys | codesearch doesn't help | 16:58 |
| ihrachys | I mean here: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/tempest/tree/playbooks/devstack-tempest.yaml#n14 | 16:58 |
| clarkb | ihrachys: I think it may come from devstack/roles | 16:58 |
| clarkb | (codesearch probably failing because its a dir name and not file content) | 16:59 |
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| ihrachys | clarkb, and devstack/roles is in which repo? | 16:59 |
| clarkb | in devstack | 17:00 |
| ihrachys | ack | 17:00 |
| clarkb | sorry devstack is repo, roles is the dir | 17:00 |
| ihrachys | we are out of time. thanks for joining. | 17:00 |
| ihrachys | #endmeeting | 17:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Feb 20 17:00:48 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ci/2018/neutron_ci.2018-02-20-16.02.html | 17:00 |
| mlavalle | o/ | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ci/2018/neutron_ci.2018-02-20-16.02.txt | 17:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ci/2018/neutron_ci.2018-02-20-16.02.log.html | 17:00 |
| slaweq | thx | 17:00 |
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| lbragstad | #startmeeting keystone | 18:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Feb 20 18:00:09 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is lbragstad. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 18:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'keystone' | 18:00 |
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| lbragstad | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-weekly-meeting | 18:00 |
| lbragstad | ping ayoung, breton, cmurphy, dstanek, gagehugo, henrynash, hrybacki, knikolla, lamt, lbragstad, lwanderley, kmalloc, rderose, rodrigods, samueldmq, spilla, aselius, dpar, jdennis, ruan_he | 18:00 |
| cmurphy | o/ | 18:00 |
| hrybacki | o/ | 18:00 |
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| lbragstad | not much on the agenda today, so we can give folks a few minutes | 18:01 |
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| knikolla | o/ | 18:03 |
| lbragstad | #topic RC status | 18:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "RC status (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 18:03 | |
| lbragstad | yesterday we flushed out another rc bug | 18:03 |
| lbragstad | and thanks to cmurphy we have a fix landed in master and a backport proposed to stable/queens | 18:04 |
| lbragstad | #link https://goo.gl/ZMnUmg | 18:04 |
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| cmurphy | thanks lbragstad for uncovering the bug | 18:04 |
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| lbragstad | by tomorrow i'll propose our final rc candidate | 18:04 |
| lbragstad | cmurphy just doing what i do best... delete code | 18:05 |
| cmurphy | :) | 18:05 |
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| lbragstad | so if anyone has things they want to beat on before the release, now is the time | 18:05 |
| lbragstad | also - reviews on the stable/queens patch would be appreciated even though it's already merged in master | 18:05 |
| lbragstad | just so folks are familiar with the fix | 18:05 |
| lbragstad | (if they are interested) | 18:06 |
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| lbragstad | #topic PTG planning | 18:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "PTG planning (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 18:06 | |
| lbragstad | next week is the PTG | 18:06 |
| lbragstad | i'd like to get etherpads started and whatnot by the end of the week | 18:06 |
| lbragstad | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-rocky-ptg | 18:07 |
| lbragstad | i'll link everything to ^ | 18:07 |
| lbragstad | so you should be able to find it all from that etherpad | 18:07 |
| lbragstad | also, if anyone has any last minute topics, let me know or throw them on the agenda | 18:07 |
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| lbragstad | #topic open discussion | 18:08 |
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| knikolla | looks like a packed agenda | 18:09 |
| knikolla | that's good | 18:09 |
| lbragstad | yeah - it filled up nicely | 18:09 |
| lbragstad | i think we have some good structure/direction for the first two days, too | 18:09 |
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| hrybacki | I feel good about it. The team seemed to gel really well last time -- no doubt we can carry on that momentum | 18:11 |
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| lbragstad | i'm hoping so | 18:11 |
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| lbragstad | i was pretty excited that we were able to accomplish nearly everything we set out to do this release | 18:12 |
| hrybacki | lbragstad: any action items that I can help you with this week(end) in preparation? | 18:12 |
| hrybacki | Yes! That's huge | 18:12 |
| lbragstad | um - i guess i'm going to be doing the following | 18:12 |
| hrybacki | BTW I'm landing at ~1000 on Monday so will unfortunately miss the morning sessions | 18:13 |
| lbragstad | - go through all https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-rocky-ptg | 18:13 |
| lbragstad | - create sub-etherpads, if necessary | 18:13 |
| lbragstad | - populate them with context and pre-reading | 18:13 |
| lbragstad | - link them back to the main schedule | 18:14 |
| * hrybacki nods | 18:14 | |
| lbragstad | but that's about it... | 18:14 |
| hrybacki | simple is nice :) | 18:14 |
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| lbragstad | i was contemplating organziing the team supper, but wasn't sure if we should just do that in person next week based on what's around and what people are feeling | 18:15 |
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| * lbragstad literally eats anything | 18:15 | |
| hrybacki | I think that is probably the easiest | 18:15 |
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| lbragstad | ++ yeah - i'm fine with that | 18:15 |
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| lbragstad | one change i made was having our retro right before team dinner | 18:16 |
| hrybacki | Still aiming for Thursday night (w/ retrospective prior to roadmap on Friday AM)? | 18:16 |
| lbragstad | yeah - i think so | 18:16 |
| * knikolla is not too picky | 18:16 | |
| cmurphy | lbragstad: i would try to arrange it in advance | 18:16 |
| kmalloc | o/ | 18:16 |
| cmurphy | my nights are filling up | 18:16 |
| lbragstad | cmurphy ack - are you ok to have it after the retro on thursday? | 18:16 |
| kmalloc | i can call in for the retro if it is somewhere convinent | 18:16 |
| cmurphy | let me check | 18:17 |
| kmalloc | but i'll be missing the ptg | 18:17 |
| hrybacki | oh no! Sorry you can't make it kmalloc =/ | 18:17 |
| lbragstad | :( it'll be nice to al least have you participate for the retro | 18:17 |
| hrybacki | Nate is gonna be disappointed | 18:17 |
| cmurphy | yes thursday is free | 18:17 |
| lbragstad | cmurphy awesome | 18:17 |
| kmalloc | likewise happy to call in / hangout in for any specific session | 18:17 |
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| lbragstad | well | 18:18 |
| lbragstad | the good news is that 4 - 5 pm is going to be 8 - 9 am eastern | 18:18 |
| kmalloc | lol, if onlt i was est | 18:18 |
| cmurphy | yeah :/ | 18:19 |
| kmalloc | but... i'm 3hrs earlier :P | 18:19 |
| lbragstad | oh - sorry | 18:19 |
| lbragstad | wait | 18:19 |
| lbragstad | i can't timezone | 18:19 |
| kmalloc | pacific | 18:19 |
| cmurphy | gonna have some early mornings :) | 18:19 |
| lbragstad | s/easter/pacific/ | 18:19 |
| kmalloc | ah | 18:19 |
| kmalloc | yeah that is fine | 18:19 |
| lbragstad | https://www.worldtimebuddy.com/?pl=1&lid=100,2964574,5809844&h=100 | 18:19 |
| knikolla | our 9am session can be your before sleep session | 18:19 |
| kmalloc | or i just stay up all night :P | 18:20 |
| lbragstad | sorry - 5 pm in dublin is 9 am pacific | 18:20 |
| kmalloc | let me know what sessions you ant me to dial/hangout/something-not-phone-specific in | 18:21 |
| kmalloc | and i'll try to make it work | 18:21 |
| kmalloc | but let me know... sooner vs later | 18:21 |
| lbragstad | sounds good | 18:21 |
| kmalloc | so i can tyr and make my sleep work for the week | 18:21 |
| kmalloc | sorry i'm missing it =/ | 18:21 |
| cmurphy | :'( | 18:21 |
| lbragstad | well - it's probably a safe bet that we will be having the retro on thrusday night ( in dublin) so thursday morning in pst | 18:21 |
| kmalloc | just too much going on here to be able to commit before the prices went way up for travel | 18:21 |
| kmalloc | and i couldn't justify the added cost (+$1000 or more) for the trip over the already high price | 18:22 |
| lbragstad | but i can make a point to investigate places to hold it either later this week or early next week | 18:22 |
| lbragstad | worst case, we can just have it in the keystone room since there will be wifi | 18:22 |
| kmalloc | like i said, just let me know :) | 18:22 |
| lbragstad | will do | 18:22 |
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| knikolla | we should fill up the food/drink section with more than a yelp link | 18:23 |
| kmalloc | if i miss it, nbd, i can catch up afterwards. | 18:23 |
| lbragstad | knikolla i was especially unmotivated that day ;) | 18:23 |
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| lbragstad | i think i attempted to do that right around the time all the feature freeze stuff was happening - and a yelp like was all i could muster | 18:24 |
| lbragstad | s/like/link/ | 18:25 |
| lbragstad | does anyone else have anything ptg related? | 18:26 |
| knikolla | safe travels everyone! | 18:28 |
| lbragstad | ++ | 18:28 |
| lbragstad | i'll be tied up nearly all sunday in pre-ptg meetings, but i can start either a google thread or twitter thread | 18:28 |
| lbragstad | so we can stay in touch | 18:28 |
| lbragstad | does anyone have preferences? | 18:28 |
| hrybacki | I'm not on twitter actually | 18:29 |
| knikolla | i am untrained in the ways of twitter | 18:29 |
| lbragstad | is anyone not on google? | 18:29 |
| * cmurphy can either | 18:29 | |
| hrybacki | but if that's what the rest of the group uses lemme know and I'll jump on for the ptg | 18:29 |
| lbragstad | i'm pretty sure we've all used google hangouts together, so a google chat is probably easier | 18:29 |
| cmurphy | ++ | 18:30 |
| knikolla | ++ | 18:30 |
| kmalloc | ++ | 18:30 |
| lbragstad | #action lbragstad to start a google thread for PTG attendees | 18:30 |
| hrybacki | ++ | 18:30 |
| lbragstad | cool - well that about all i had | 18:30 |
| cmurphy | oh btw i'll be out starting thursday till ptg time | 18:31 |
| lbragstad | ack - thanks for the heads up cmurphy | 18:31 |
| lbragstad | anything else before we call it? | 18:32 |
| lbragstad | sounds good - thanks for coming, all | 18:33 |
| lbragstad | #endmeeting | 18:33 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Feb 20 18:33:22 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:33 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2018/keystone.2018-02-20-18.00.html | 18:33 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2018/keystone.2018-02-20-18.00.txt | 18:33 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2018/keystone.2018-02-20-18.00.log.html | 18:33 |
| hrybacki | o/ | 18:33 |
| gagehugo | o/ | 18:34 |
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| clarkb | anyone here for the infra meeting? | 19:00 |
| bkero- | bueller? | 19:00 |
| clarkb | it will likely be a quick and easy one | 19:01 |
| clarkb | #startmeeting infra | 19:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Feb 20 19:01:27 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is clarkb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'infra' | 19:01 |
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| clarkb | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/InfraTeamMeeting#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 19:02 |
| tobiash | o/ | 19:02 |
| clarkb | will wait for a few more to wander in before starting with announcements | 19:02 |
| ianw | o/ | 19:02 |
| AJaeger | o/ | 19:02 |
| pabelanger | o/ | 19:03 |
| clarkb | #topic Announcements | 19:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:03 | |
| clarkb | Mostly PTG related this week. | 19:03 |
| clarkb | next week many of us will be at the PTG | 19:03 |
| clarkb | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/infra-rocky-ptg PTG Brainstorming | 19:03 |
| clarkb | its not too late to go over the topics or propose more ^ | 19:03 |
| clarkb | #link https://ethercalc.openstack.org/cvro305izog2 Rough PTG Schedule | 19:04 |
| * fungi is actually around, just got done with internet service tech, all wired up again | 19:04 | |
| clarkb | I've got a rough schedule going there to help people that will be changing rooms in particular | 19:04 |
| clarkb | please looks those over if you will be attending to make sure it looks ok to you | 19:04 |
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| clarkb | It will be 7pm in dublin during the infra meeting next week which is dinner time so I am going to cancel the meeting next week. If you won't be in dublin and have stuff to talk about feel free to use the time but don't feel compelled to either :) | 19:05 |
| pabelanger | wfm | 19:05 |
| clarkb | and finally if you will be joining us in dublin pabelanger is putting together a team dinner plan which you can sign upfor at https://ethercalc.openstack.org/pqhemnrgnz7t | 19:06 |
| clarkb | #link https://ethercalc.openstack.org/pqhemnrgnz7t PTG team dinner sign up | 19:06 |
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| clarkb | #topic Actions from last meeting | 19:07 |
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| clarkb | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2018/infra.2018-02-13-19.01.txt minutes from last meeting | 19:07 |
| clarkb | I'm really bad and still haven't cleaned out old specs. It seems like such a low priority item compared to fixing timeouts in zuul and helping make zuul status work again :) | 19:07 |
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| clarkb | #action clarkb actually clean up specs | 19:07 |
| clarkb | ianw on the other hand totally got a ppa going for the afs packages we are using now on ubuntu hwe and arm kernels | 19:08 |
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| pabelanger | even running in production! | 19:08 |
| clarkb | ianw was able to build a mirror host in linaro's cloud using our puppetry using that | 19:08 |
| clarkb | very exciting | 19:08 |
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| ianw | yep, seems to be ok | 19:08 |
| clarkb | also I don't think we've seen an oom on the zuul executors since upgrading their kernels (which required the afs ppa on x86 too) | 19:09 |
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| fungi | wow! | 19:09 |
| clarkb | so thank you for getting that done | 19:09 |
| fungi | (on the arm64 mirror puppeting, but also yay on lack of oom) | 19:09 |
| clarkb | whcih is a good transition into talking about zuul | 19:09 |
| pabelanger | yah, OOM is much better | 19:09 |
| clarkb | #topic Priority Efforts | 19:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Priority Efforts (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:10 | |
| corvus | yeah, looks like they're all running (just crhecked) | 19:10 |
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| clarkb | #topic Zuul v3 | 19:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Zuul v3 (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:10 | |
| clarkb | I don't think there are any current fires but might be worth a general status update as a few things have changed in the last week | 19:10 |
| corvus | quick update from meeting yesterday: https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/board/53 | 19:10 |
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| corvus | we have 4 things to do before release | 19:10 |
| corvus | probably not going to happen this week. maybe at ptg? or maybe 2 weeks after... | 19:11 |
| pabelanger | so close | 19:11 |
| corvus | (i think several of us are scattered during week-after-ptg, so unlikely to release that week) | 19:11 |
| corvus | the post-timeout landed, as did host-vars and group-vars | 19:11 |
| corvus | i think maybe we should send an openstack-dev email about those things? | 19:12 |
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| clarkb | ++ | 19:12 |
| pabelanger | memory is also down this week! Thanks for that corvus | 19:12 |
| corvus | yay! | 19:12 |
| dmsimard | cpu down too also, no ? | 19:12 |
| corvus | yeah, we've landed one small memory improvement, raised cpu in the process, but then landed a fix to that. | 19:12 |
| fungi | down with resource utilization, up with servers! | 19:13 |
| corvus | so the upshot is that we're using significantly less memory, and a tiny bit more cpu at the end of the day | 19:13 |
| corvus | (a dynamic config generation now takes 12s, up from 10s last week) | 19:13 |
| pabelanger | +1 | 19:13 |
| corvus | i haven't actually started on the things i planned to do to really reduce memory usage | 19:13 |
| corvus | the thing so far was just something i noticed along the way during refactoring | 19:14 |
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| corvus | i'm planning on getting the marginal memory cost for a dynamic config to be in the range of several kb | 19:14 |
| corvus | but that's still back-seat to release blockers | 19:15 |
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| AJaeger | corvus: still a great improvement ;) | 19:15 |
| clarkb | corvus: do you want to send email about timeout and vars changes? | 19:15 |
| clarkb | (I'm not sure I grok the vars changes well enough to do them justice) | 19:16 |
| corvus | andreaf is sending out emails about the devstack-tempest job... probably good for folks to keep an eye on those, it's kind of a top-tier job so it's good if we can all help make it as good as possible and set a good pattern | 19:16 |
| corvus | clarkb: okay, i can do | 19:16 |
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| corvus | that's all i can think of off the top of my head | 19:17 |
| fungi | yeah, i wasn't paying attention on the vars changes either, so recap would be swell | 19:17 |
| corvus | oh, probably everyone knows about the json change | 19:18 |
| fungi | i got it was something that came up in the course of trying to generalize the devstack/tempest job configs | 19:18 |
| corvus | but we've dropped ".json" suffixes from the zuul api | 19:18 |
| corvus | so if anyone reports issues related to that, let them know. the dashboard is updated, but folks may need to reload js if they have trouble with that | 19:18 |
| corvus | i can include that in email too...? | 19:18 |
| fungi | ahh, yes i expect everyone who was going to be surprised by the status.json->status change is now done being surprised | 19:19 |
| fungi | but can't hurt to mention | 19:19 |
| clarkb | ya we've had a couple people ask about it this morning and a refresh did sort them out | 19:19 |
| corvus | (part of the reasoning for that is to restore the feature to just fetch status for a single change) | 19:20 |
| corvus | oh, also, see this tc resolution: https://review.openstack.org/545065 | 19:20 |
| fungi | which is needed for any upcoming attempts to retry status embedded in gerrit change views | 19:20 |
| fungi | (the per-change status queries, that is) | 19:20 |
| corvus | fungi: yep. we'll also use it in the github status link. | 19:20 |
| corvus | #link tc resolution about reporting on github https://review.openstack.org/545065 | 19:21 |
| corvus | #link infra manual update about reporting on github https://review.openstack.org/545077 | 19:21 |
| corvus | [ok really out of things now :)] | 19:22 |
| fungi | after some initial explaining, tc reception of the resolution seems to have been positive | 19:22 |
| corvus | yeah, it's been a good conversation | 19:22 |
| clarkb | alright, anything else zuul related? | 19:24 |
| clarkb | sounds like no | 19:26 |
| clarkb | #topic General Topics | 19:26 |
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| clarkb | ianw: any other aarch64 updates worth sharing? | 19:26 |
| ianw | yeah, if i could get some eyes on | 19:27 |
| ianw | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/546025/ | 19:27 |
| ianw | that just adds ability to have a specific config for a nodepool builder, as discussed in email thread | 19:27 |
| ianw | with a config | 19:27 |
| ianw | #link https://review.openstack.org/546027 | 19:28 |
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| ianw | that should allow me to hand-deploy our arm dib changes on a builder and see if we get a .qcow out the other end | 19:28 |
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| ianw | once we have that, we can try launching something | 19:28 |
| ianw | </end> :) | 19:28 |
| * clarkb has added them to the review list | 19:29 | |
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| clarkb | Just a quick reminder that March 16th is current planned day for project renaming | 19:30 |
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| clarkb | #topic Open Discussion | 19:30 |
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| clarkb | anything else? | 19:31 |
| pabelanger | ubuntu-bionic mirrors are online now | 19:33 |
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| clarkb | pabelanger: did we figure out why that seemed to cause problems for xenial mirror? | 19:34 |
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| clarkb | like maybe we synced in the middle of an update to xenial? | 19:34 |
| pabelanger | clarkb: yah, it seems the xenial mirror was stale since 02/05, but I didn't notice it at first | 19:34 |
| pabelanger | then, my reprepro update process deleted the older references, so when we did vos release, everything in the gate got deleted (old packages) | 19:35 |
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| pabelanger | so, for next time, the manually mirror process shouldn't delete old stale packages, until first vos release is done | 19:35 |
| pabelanger | then we can mirror as normal to remove the stale | 19:36 |
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| fungi | ahh, so it was the usual stale caches taking too long to update during a large vos release | 19:36 |
| pabelanger | yah, the bionic import took a day or so, and about 2 hours to release | 19:37 |
| fungi | or jobs had done apt-get update and then the vos release replaced packages out from under them before (or during) an apt-get install run | 19:37 |
| clarkb | we've also got to add in aarch64 too right? ianw ^ is that done? | 19:37 |
| pabelanger | yes, that | 19:37 |
| ianw | clarkb: no, that's in ports so will need some different handling i think | 19:37 |
| clarkb | oh right unlike debian its a separate repo source | 19:37 |
| persia | In other contexts, I found it useful to have a config file that determined hostname-by-architecture for mirrors, as a) different distros do it differently, and b) different releases sometimes do it differently for certain distros (Ubuntu having done that once in the past). | 19:38 |
| persia | My scripts read that file to determine the right mirror host to use. | 19:39 |
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| ianw | persia: i guess we more or less have that in https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/openstack-zuul-jobs/tree/roles/mirror-info ? | 19:40 |
| clarkb | in this case we'd probably mimic ubuntu and have a $host/ubuntu-ports/ path? | 19:40 |
| pabelanger | wfm | 19:41 |
| persia | ianw: That would be the place, although at first glance, I don't see how hostname or pathname differs by architecture. | 19:41 |
| ianw | no it doesn't, yet | 19:42 |
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| clarkb | one of the "nice" things about being single architecture for so long is you can ignore that until you can't. I remember when we first added x86 solaris at a previous job then all our nfs mounted gnu tools broke :) | 19:43 |
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| pabelanger | also, https://review.openstack.org/497948/ if people want to help make our mirrors more reload friendly | 19:44 |
| pabelanger | right now, each time we make vhost changes, we break jobs | 19:44 |
| pabelanger | since we stop / start apache | 19:44 |
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| clarkb | #link https://review.openstack.org/497948/ make apache vhost change application more graceful | 19:44 |
| clarkb | (keep in mind that means we might have to out of band restart apache for certain changes) | 19:44 |
| clarkb | anything else before I stop the meeting 15 minutes early? | 19:45 |
| fungi | yeah, adding/removing modules still needs to notify service['httpd'] instead | 19:45 |
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| pabelanger | yah, this should just affect vhost changes, for reload. everything else should still restart | 19:45 |
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| clarkb | alright calling it then. Find us in #openstack-infra or on the infra mailing list if there are additional items to discuss. See some of you at the PTG! | 19:48 |
| clarkb | thanks everyone | 19:48 |
| clarkb | #endmeeting | 19:48 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Feb 20 19:48:09 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:48 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2018/infra.2018-02-20-19.01.html | 19:48 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2018/infra.2018-02-20-19.01.txt | 19:48 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2018/infra.2018-02-20-19.01.log.html | 19:48 |
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| Ender948 | I say we get started | 21:00 |
| martial | #startmeeting Scientific-SIG | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Feb 20 21:00:33 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is martial. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
| oneswig | oh go on then :-) | 21:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Scientific-SIG)" | 21:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'scientific_sig' | 21:00 |
| martial | oops | 21:00 |
| martial | #chair oneswig | 21:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: martial oneswig | 21:00 |
| armstrong | Hello | 21:01 |
| oneswig | #link agenda for today https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Scientific_SIG#IRC_Meeting_February_20th_2018 | 21:01 |
| oneswig | Grreeetings | 21:01 |
| Ender948 | Greetings | 21:01 |
| martial | Greetings as well :) | 21:02 |
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| oneswig | Hello, welcome | 21:02 |
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| martial | #chair b1airo | 21:02 |
| openstack | Current chairs: b1airo martial oneswig | 21:02 |
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| martial | #topic Conference Calendar | 21:02 |
| oneswig | Hi b1airo, morning | 21:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Conference Calendar (Meeting topic: Scientific-SIG)" | 21:02 | |
| b1airo | Morning | 21:02 |
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| Ender948 | good morning to you | 21:03 |
| oneswig | There were a couple of announcements here I came across | 21:03 |
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| b1airo | I'm a little distracted here sorry - 8 o'clock getting out the door to school (and a birthday morning) | 21:03 |
| oneswig | Tim Randles forwarded the ScienceCloud conference in Tempe, Arizona. | 21:03 |
| oneswig | #link https://sites.google.com/site/sciencecloudhpdc/ | 21:03 |
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| oneswig | And there's HPCAC Lugano, which I saw jmlowe at last year | 21:04 |
| oneswig | #link https://www.cscs.ch/publications/press-releases/swiss-hpc-advisory-council-conference-2018-hpcxxl-user-group/ | 21:04 |
| jmlowe | I'm disappointed that I probably won't make it again this year | 21:04 |
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| oneswig | Ah, too bad. I'm hoping to talk on Ceph on NVME + 100G fabric | 21:04 |
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| jmlowe | oh, that sounds nice | 21:05 |
| jmlowe | A few of us will be at https://www.pearc18.pearc.org/ | 21:06 |
| oneswig | I had a mail earlier today about SREcon - I went to one two years ago and thought it was interesting trip into the parallel universe of hyperscaler infrastructure | 21:06 |
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| oneswig | jmlowe: I am piqued. Looks really interesting | 21:07 |
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| martial | jmlowe: sounds fun indeed | 21:07 |
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| oneswig | martial: was there a conference Khalil was looking at for ORCA or did I imagine that? | 21:08 |
| jmlowe | it used to be the Teragrid/XSEDE conference, broadened scope, and we have a panel accepted with PSC,LANL,IU,NASA,MSI represented | 21:08 |
| martial | oneswig: no you are not mistaken | 21:08 |
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| martial | oneswig: there is one for the NIST Public Working Group on Cloud Federation (IEEE P2302) and joint to the Open Research Cloud | 21:09 |
| martial | it will be March 20-21 2018 (so very soon) in Gaithersburg MD | 21:09 |
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| martial | am hoping jmlowe rbudden and trandles among other could join | 21:09 |
| trandles | sorry, I'm here, late | 21:10 |
| oneswig | Hi trandles | 21:10 |
| trandles | just ran in from another meeting... | 21:10 |
| trandles | hi oneswig | 21:10 |
| jmlowe | oof, that's going to be rough for me | 21:10 |
| oneswig | Just talking over conferences - have you previously been to ScienceCloud? | 21:10 |
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| trandles | I have not been to ScienceCloud | 21:11 |
| trandles | <sorry, reading back through the meetbot log now...> | 21:12 |
| oneswig | OK, move on to the next item? | 21:12 |
| oneswig | #topic managing dedicated capacity | 21:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "managing dedicated capacity (Meeting topic: Scientific-SIG)" | 21:13 | |
| jmlowe | science cloud, pearc18, hpcac lugano, summit, did I miss any? | 21:13 |
| oneswig | SC? | 21:13 |
| jmlowe | yep and NIST Public Working Group on Cloud Federation (IEEE P2302) + ORC | 21:14 |
| oneswig | This item came up from a question on how people manage reserved access to a system which has been part-funded in return for guaranteed quota | 21:14 |
| jmlowe | with a schedule like this we could almost meet monthly in person | 21:14 |
| oneswig | The decision-making process would be reminiscent of the part-time parliament! | 21:16 |
| oneswig | #link https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwi-9rb1tLXZAhUBesAKHaOxCdYQFggnMAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Flamport.azurewebsites.net%2Fpubs%2Flamport-paxos.pdf&usg=AOvVaw1AHQDriKZ-fF2C7BTNr6qm | 21:16 |
| jmlowe | Would this also cover mechanisms to keep users on the portion of hardware they funded? | 21:16 |
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| b1airo | jmlowe: yes, that is one of the problems | 21:17 |
| oneswig | jmlowe: it's an interesting question. In a pool of nodes, I guess there might be some of a different spec, which would make that easy. Otherwise I guess it is not relevant (unless there are data protection issues?) | 21:17 |
| jmlowe | ok, that is a problem I have a nontrivial chance of encountering in the next 12 months | 21:17 |
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| b1airo | Pretty common for researchers to want a particular thing different from standard offerings, especially when it is "their" money | 21:18 |
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| b1airo | We have two different classes of this problem: | 21:19 |
| b1airo | 1) researcher co-investment wanting dedicated access to their own compute pool | 21:19 |
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| b1airo | 2) broader pool of locally prioritised capacity within a community cloud | 21:20 |
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| b1airo | For #1 things like dedicated flavors are ok | 21:21 |
| b1airo | For #2 it is harder as we don't really want more full sets of standard flavors just to tie to specific aggregates | 21:22 |
| b1airo | I had the idea of using the imagepropertiesisolation filter for this - i.e. set a "secret" on the aggregate/s you are putting prioritised capacity into and tell the users you want to allow into that aggregate to set the matching property on their glance images. But the filter (or docs) are buggy it seems :-/ | 21:24 |
| oneswig | In that it doesn't isolate? | 21:24 |
| b1airo | Am I making any sense? | 21:24 |
| b1airo | Yeah | 21:25 |
| jmlowe | my specific case is that IU will purchase identical hardware as an expansion, I'd like to keep my same control plane and add additional projects,domains (with domain specific auth), and whatever else I needed to keep the IU projects on IU funded hardware, so multiple cases of 1? | 21:25 |
| b1airo | In fact we aren't even seeing the image properties in the dict the filter is using | 21:25 |
| b1airo | Does the domain come into it in the hardware isolation side jmlowe ? I haven't seen any filters that mention it | 21:27 |
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| jmlowe | I don't think so, but I will need to use a different auth for those users, probably ldap | 21:28 |
| jmlowe | I already use domain specific configuration to put novice users in the default domain with sql identity backend and advanced users in another domain with an ldap identity backend, what's one more domain and ldap identity backend? | 21:31 |
| b1airo | Interesting jmlowe , what's the use case for that? Surely the users don't know what Keystone backend they're in? | 21:32 |
| jmlowe | I can scope projects to a domain, but afaik that's as far as it goes, there's no domain filter for host aggregates | 21:32 |
| oneswig | b1airo: in your case #1, does the research project funding the kit allow others to use the resources when they are not? | 21:33 |
| jmlowe | no but for the default domain the domain is masked, and they don't actually know their credentials, the atmosphere ui does all the openstack calls on their behalf and they just need to use openid to prove their identity to atmosphere, the other ones use the "TACC" domain because their credentials are actually the ones issued by TACC, but I digress | 21:35 |
| persia | Similarly in case #2, can the funding be applied via a billing model (x seconds of y machines) rather than being directly associated with specific hardware? | 21:35 |
| b1airo | oneswig: that might be a 1b case, but generally not | 21:35 |
| oneswig | Seems a limited benefit to stretching the same openstack over that resource, unless you've an eye to the project's ending? | 21:36 |
| b1airo | persia: there are lots of different models possible for sure, but at the moment I'm just thinking about the most common ones we see today | 21:37 |
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| b1airo | Not sure I follow oneswig ? You suggesting to build a dedicated cloud for one to few machines? | 21:38 |
| oneswig | Is that the scale? Perhaps not then. Just thinking, it's not very share-y, this resource | 21:38 |
| b1airo | From operations perspective it is, also usability across the broader federated cloud is easier - same auth, APIs, dashboard, images, etc etc | 21:39 |
| jmlowe | I'm looking at 32 nodes myself ~%10 addition to my existing | 21:40 |
| jmlowe | Plus a handful of gpu's | 21:41 |
| oneswig | b1airo: good points. In our world it's a duplication of the playbook, but the clouds aren't federated like that. | 21:41 |
| jmlowe | I think a domain dropdown in horizon login is new in pike (if so I can't believe it took this long) | 21:42 |
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| oneswig | b1airo: does the PI also pay for network infrastructure? | 21:44 |
| b1airo | Also control infrastructure overhead to consider oneswig | 21:44 |
| oneswig | VMs in your setup, right? | 21:45 |
| b1airo | oneswig: yeah we typically structure it so they pay for the server ports but fabric ports are covered centrally | 21:46 |
| oneswig | b1airo: do you think you'll get your setup with aggregates that other projects cannot schedule to? Or are you having a major rethink? | 21:47 |
| b1airo | oneswig: yep virt control plane currently | 21:47 |
| b1airo | We're debugging the filter, will see how we go | 21:48 |
| b1airo | The other option for #2 is the aggregatetenancyisolationfilter | 21:48 |
| b1airo | But it has a major shortcoming in that it is limited to 255 characters worth of tenant IDs in the allowed access list | 21:49 |
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| b1airo | We could carry a patch to merge all matching aggregate keys, I.e., use multiple overlapping aggregates to get all relevant projects/tenants. I doubt such a change would get upstream | 21:50 |
| oneswig | Should we move on? | 21:51 |
| b1airo | Yeah seems like | 21:51 |
| oneswig | #topic public voting for Vancouver summit | 21:52 |
| martial | did not know about this option for #2, thnaks b1airo | 21:52 |
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| b1airo | I will report back once we've figured it out | 21:52 |
| oneswig | keep us updated b1airo | 21:52 |
| oneswig | OK, so public voting's underway | 21:52 |
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| oneswig | If anyone has a presentation proposal, or has seen an interesting one they wanted to share, lets gather together in an etherpad | 21:53 |
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| oneswig | #link presentations of interest https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Scientific-SIG-Vancouver-presentation-picks | 21:53 |
| oneswig | Andrey Brito who presented to the SIG earlier this year on SGX has submitted a proposal for their work | 21:54 |
| martial | all of those sound very interesting already | 21:54 |
| oneswig | martial: you're stepping up this time, right? Let's see the details :-) | 21:54 |
| oneswig | Public votes are a guideline but could be the tie-breaker | 21:55 |
| oneswig | That's all I had on that - do add your talks if you've got something proposed | 21:56 |
| oneswig | #topic AOB | 21:56 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "AOB (Meeting topic: Scientific-SIG)" | 21:56 | |
| martial | nope, not this time, likely will participate in a forum session on federation following the effort of our meeting in March | 21:56 |
| oneswig | I heard that DK Panda's team has released a new version of Spark-RDMA - http://hibd.cse.ohio-state.edu/#spark - got a fix in for an issue we hit so we'll be trying that. | 21:57 |
| martial | (with Khalil, Craig Lee and Robert Bohn) | 21:57 |
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| oneswig | We are nearly out of time - any final comments? | 21:59 |
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| oneswig | OK, thanks everyone | 22:00 |
| oneswig | #endmeeting | 22:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Feb 20 22:00:37 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:00 |
| oneswig | until next time | 22:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_sig/2018/scientific_sig.2018-02-20-21.00.html | 22:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_sig/2018/scientific_sig.2018-02-20-21.00.txt | 22:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_sig/2018/scientific_sig.2018-02-20-21.00.log.html | 22:00 |
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