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| hongbin | #startmeeting | 03:00 |
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| openstack | hongbin: Error: A meeting name is required, e.g., '#startmeeting Marketing Committee' | 03:00 |
| hongbin | #startmeeting zun | 03:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Feb 6 03:00:14 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is hongbin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 03:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 03:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: zun)" | 03:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'zun' | 03:00 |
| hongbin | #topic Roll Call | 03:00 |
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| kevinz | o/ | 03:02 |
| kevinz | sorry I'm late | 03:02 |
| kevinz | hongbin: ^ | 03:02 |
| hongbin | kevinz: hey kevin | 03:02 |
| hongbin | kevinz: no problem. thanks for joining | 03:03 |
| hongbin | kevinz: if it is just both of us, let's have a short meeting as usual | 03:03 |
| kevinz | OK | 03:03 |
| hongbin | first, i am going to say that we have release zun 1.0.0 for queens | 03:03 |
| kiseok7 | Hello | 03:03 |
| hongbin | this is the first 1.x release, mean zun is production ready now | 03:04 |
| kevinz | Hi kiseok7 | 03:04 |
| hongbin | hi kiseok7 , thanks for joining | 03:04 |
| kevinz | Good news | 03:04 |
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| hongbin | yes, that is what is from my side | 03:04 |
| hongbin | i was busy with the release last week, btw | 03:05 |
| kevinz | hongbin: Thanks a lot | 03:05 |
| kevinz | hongbin: how about the heat patch? | 03:05 |
| hongbin | kevinz: still wait for review | 03:05 |
| kevinz | OK | 03:06 |
| hongbin | kevinz: the heat ptl said he will give those patch a FFE | 03:06 |
| kevinz | hongbin: Hope so :-) | 03:06 |
| hongbin | kevinz: so i assume he will get back to those patches later and merge them before queens release | 03:06 |
| kevinz | sounds great | 03:06 |
| hongbin | ok, that is all from my side | 03:07 |
| hongbin | kevinz: you have anything to share with the team? | 03:07 |
| kevinz | So that now we could move capsule to v1 now? | 03:07 |
| hongbin | kevinz: yes, feel free | 03:07 |
| kevinz | OK, I also need to write the api-ref for all the capsule API? | 03:08 |
| hongbin | kevinz: just let me know if you need any help for that | 03:08 |
| kevinz | Thanks hongbin | 03:08 |
| hongbin | kevinz: if you have time, yes, otherwise, fill a tech-debt bug would be fine | 03:08 |
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| kevinz | OK got it | 03:09 |
| hongbin | kevinz: i guess the most important thing is to get the code working, and setup the CI to test it | 03:10 |
| hongbin | kevinz: i can help you to setup the CI if you want, so you can focus on the code | 03:10 |
| kevinz | Aha, thanks hongbin for your kindly help, really need:-) | 03:11 |
| hongbin | :) | 03:11 |
| kevinz | Since I'm not familiar about setting CI | 03:11 |
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| hongbin | kevinz: ok, you have anything else ? | 03:12 |
| kevinz | I will begin to move the code this week and let you know the progress | 03:12 |
| hongbin | ack | 03:12 |
| kevinz | Gophercloud patch capsule-get is still under review | 03:12 |
| hongbin | #link https://github.com/gophercloud/gophercloud/pull/725 | 03:13 |
| hongbin | i guess it is this one | 03:13 |
| hongbin | yes, it looks you get some feedback, which is good | 03:13 |
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| kevinz | Yes, looks good comments | 03:14 |
| kevinz | I will wait for more comments | 03:14 |
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| hongbin | cool | 03:14 |
| kevinz | That's all from my side. | 03:15 |
| hongbin | kevinz: thanks kevin | 03:15 |
| kevinz | also I see several guys from ZTE join Zun team. | 03:15 |
| hongbin | which is good | 03:15 |
| kevinz | Yeah:-) definitely | 03:16 |
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| hongbin | kiseok7: hi kiseok7 , thanks for joining, you have anything to bring up ? or anything we can help ? | 03:16 |
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| kiseok7 | i dont have now. i hope to upload bug patches | 03:17 |
| hongbin | which bug you are going to upload a patch for ? | 03:18 |
| hongbin | btw, it is good to hear | 03:18 |
| kiseok7 | this one : https://bugs.launchpad.net/zun/+bug/1746644 | 03:18 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1746644 in Zun "Support network-list for a container" [Medium,Triaged] | 03:18 |
| hongbin | cool | 03:19 |
| hongbin | i will assign this bug to you then | 03:19 |
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| hongbin | kiseok7: thanks for fixing the bug | 03:19 |
| kiseok7 | thank you :) | 03:20 |
| hongbin | just let me know if anything you need help | 03:20 |
| hongbin | ok, all, thanks for joining the meeting | 03:20 |
| hongbin | hope to see you next time | 03:20 |
| kevinz | bye hongbin | 03:20 |
| hongbin | #endmeeting | 03:20 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Feb 6 03:20:39 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 03:20 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zun/2018/zun.2018-02-06-03.00.html | 03:20 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zun/2018/zun.2018-02-06-03.00.txt | 03:20 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zun/2018/zun.2018-02-06-03.00.log.html | 03:20 |
| kiseok7 | bye | 03:20 |
| kevinz | bye kiseok7 | 03:20 |
| kiseok7 | kevinz: by :) | 03:21 |
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| samP | hi all for masakari | 04:00 |
| tpatil | Hi | 04:01 |
| samP | #startmeeting masakari | 04:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Feb 6 04:01:12 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is samP. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 04:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 04:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'masakari' | 04:01 |
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| Dinesh_Bhor | Hi all | 04:01 |
| samP | Hi all | 04:01 |
| samP | let's start | 04:01 |
| samP | #topic High Priority Items | 04:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "High Priority Items (Meeting topic: masakari)" | 04:02 | |
| samP | About Release | 04:02 |
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| samP | I had a discussion with release team and agree to follow independent release model for Queens | 04:02 |
| samP | Form next cycle, we will follow the cycle-with-milestones | 04:03 |
| tpatil | Ok | 04:03 |
| samP | #link https://releases.openstack.org/reference/release_models.html | 04:03 |
| tpatil | samP: Sure | 04:03 |
| tpatil | samP: Service type patches are up for review, do you want this change in Queens cycle? | 04:04 |
| samP | tpatil: that's one thing I would like to discuss | 04:04 |
| samP | since requirements are freezed, if we merged them then we have to propose FFE to requirements | 04:05 |
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| samP | on the other hand, instance-ha has alias `ha` | 04:06 |
| tpatil | samP: IMO, it's not a blocker.it can be done early Rocky release.What do you think? | 04:06 |
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| samP | tpatil: are you proposing to update requirement manually, till Rocky start? | 04:07 |
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| tpatil | samP: If we don't want to depend on requirements, then that's one way to merge service type change in queens cycle. But I don't think we should go in that way | 04:10 |
| tpatil | my main question is, do you want to change service_type in Queens cycle? | 04:11 |
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| samP | tpatil: I would like to postpone it to Rocky, if no objections | 04:12 |
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| tpatil | If service type change is not a blocker for other OpenStack projects, then I think it's ok to merge it in early Rocky release | 04:14 |
| samP | for my understanding it would not be a blocker for other projects. | 04:15 |
| samP | OK, then let's land it on early Rocky. | 04:16 |
| tpatil | samP: Sure | 04:16 |
| samP | Since we are following the independent release model, I would like to propose closing dates for Queens. | 04:16 |
| Dinesh_Bhor | Is there any existing openstack service sharing the same "HA" service_type? | 04:17 |
| samP | for Masakari, stable/queens will be created on 2/23 | 04:17 |
| samP | Dinesh_Bhor: none that i known of | 04:18 |
| Dinesh_Bhor | samP: okay, then there is no issue. We can update the service_type in next release. | 04:18 |
| samP | Please do not merge patches for openstack/masakari after 2/20 | 04:19 |
| samP | if you would like to merge something after 2/20, please discuss with me. | 04:19 |
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| samP | For masakari-monitors, python-masakariclient stable/queens will be created on 2/13 | 04:20 |
| tpatil | samP: When will stable/queen branch be cut for masakari projects? | 04:20 |
| tpatil | samP: Ok | 04:20 |
| samP | tpatil: it will be 2/23 | 04:20 |
| samP | Please do not merge any patches for masakari-monitors and python-masakariclient after 2/9 | 04:21 |
| tpatil | samP: One question related to service type | 04:21 |
| samP | tpatil: sure, | 04:21 |
| tpatil | if someone is using masakari for the first time, then they would need to add service as 'ha' and not 'instance-ha', correct? | 04:21 |
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| samP | tpatil: yes | 04:22 |
| tpatil | samP: Does operator refers service-types-authority project for creating services for OpenStack deployment? | 04:23 |
| tpatil | If yes, then we need to confirm masakari will work using alias 'ha'. | 04:24 |
| samP | tpatil: in that case we have `ha` alias to `instance-ha` | 04:24 |
| tpatil | I will confirm this point from my end | 04:25 |
| samP | tpatil: thank you. that will be great. | 04:25 |
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| samP | tpatil: if there are any issues, could you please share. So, we could merge them to Queens and fix the related problems manually. | 04:27 |
| tpatil | In Keystone Service db table, I can see only type column to store service type | 04:27 |
| tpatil | Need to check how to specify alias when you add a service | 04:27 |
| tpatil | samP: I will update my findings | 04:28 |
| samP | "API consumer cannot find a given service-type in the service-catalog, they are directed to try the list of aliases" need to find out more about it. | 04:29 |
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| samP | tpatil: thanks. I will take a look on this. | 04:30 |
| tpatil | since consumers of masakari service are python-masakariclient and masakari-monitors, there shouldn't be any issues | 04:30 |
| samP | tpatil: currently, yes. if someone would like to call masakari API from their custom monitors, then that would be the situation | 04:32 |
| tpatil | samP: in that case, they would need to follow service type authority guidelines to try using alias | 04:33 |
| samP | tpatil: correct | 04:34 |
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| tpatil | samP: So it's ok to merge service type changes in early Rocky, correct? | 04:35 |
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| samP | tpatil: Correct. I do not see any problem with that. | 04:36 |
| tpatil | samP: Ok | 04:36 |
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| samP | All the details about release is in today's meeting wiki | 04:38 |
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| samP | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Masakari#High priority items | 04:38 |
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| samP | which is not a good place to hold those info. I will put those info in masakari wiki page and send them to ML | 04:39 |
| samP | if you have any questions or requests please let me know. | 04:39 |
| tpatil | samP :Sure | 04:39 |
| samP | I would like to merge operators guide documentation in Queens. | 04:40 |
| samP | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/489095/ | 04:40 |
| patchbot | patch 489095 - masakari-monitors - Masakari-monitors operator's documentation | 04:40 |
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| samP | I have already read the doc, only have few comments. I will put my review comments asap. | 04:42 |
| samP | #topic Bugs and patches | 04:42 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs and patches (Meeting topic: masakari)" | 04:42 | |
| samP | Any bugs or patches to discuss? | 04:43 |
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| samP | Horizon Plugin, what is happening to this patch? | 04:44 |
| samP | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/528647/ | 04:44 |
| patchbot | patch 528647 - masakari-dashboard - Initial UI-Cookiecutter commit | 04:44 |
| samP | I thought I have merged it :) | 04:45 |
| tpatil | Zuul requirements jobs are failing after workflow +1 | 04:45 |
| tpatil | need to merge it again | 04:45 |
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| tpatil | In Queens release, are you planning to release masakari-dashboard? | 04:46 |
| samP | tpatil: no. I think there is nothing to release yet. right? | 04:47 |
| tpatil | samP: Correct | 04:47 |
| samP | tpatil: it's first release will be in Rocky | 04:48 |
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| tpatil | samP: Ok, I will review cookie cutter patch and vote +2 if no comments from my end | 04:49 |
| samP | tpatil: sure, I will review it again | 04:49 |
| tpatil | #link : https://bugs.launchpad.net/masakari/+bug/1746229 | 04:49 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1746229 in masakari "masakari-engine recovery looking for URL endpoint for service_name='Compute Service' instead of 'nova'" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Louie Kwan (lkwan) | 04:49 |
| tpatil | Need to reproduce this bug | 04:49 |
| tpatil | samP: I will confirm this LP bug | 04:51 |
| samP | tpatil: thanks. | 04:53 |
| samP | seems "nova" is correct. but, tpatil: please update | 04:56 |
| samP | we only have 4 mins left | 04:56 |
| tpatil | samP: ok | 04:56 |
| samP | Any updates to share? | 04:56 |
| samP | Please use #openstack-masakari @freenode or openstack-dev ML with [masakari] for discuss any issues related to masakari | 04:58 |
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| samP | Let's finish today's meeting | 04:58 |
| samP | Thank you all | 04:59 |
| sagara | Thanks | 04:59 |
| samP | #endmeeting | 04:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Feb 6 04:59:26 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 04:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/masakari/2018/masakari.2018-02-06-04.01.html | 04:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/masakari/2018/masakari.2018-02-06-04.01.txt | 04:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/masakari/2018/masakari.2018-02-06-04.01.log.html | 04:59 |
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| chenying_ | #startmeeting karbor | 09:06 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Feb 6 09:06:08 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is chenying_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 09:06 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: karbor)" | 09:06 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'karbor' | 09:06 |
| jiaopengju | hi | 09:06 |
| chenying_ | hi | 09:07 |
| chenying_ | Is there any topic want to discuss? | 09:07 |
| jiaopengju | no topic from me :) | 09:07 |
| chenying_ | Now the queens stable branch of karbor projects have been created. | 09:08 |
| jiaopengju | that’s nice, very good job! | 09:08 |
| chenying_ | So if we don't have any topcis, wo could end this meeting. :) | 09:09 |
| jiaopengju | ok :) | 09:09 |
| chenying_ | we can discss any questions in the karbor's irc meeting. | 09:09 |
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| chenying_ | #endmeeting | 09:22 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Feb 6 09:22:18 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 09:22 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/karbor/2018/karbor.2018-02-06-09.06.html | 09:22 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/karbor/2018/karbor.2018-02-06-09.06.txt | 09:22 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/karbor/2018/karbor.2018-02-06-09.06.log.html | 09:22 |
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| ihrachys | #startmeeting neutron_ci | 16:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Feb 6 16:02:30 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ihrachys. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_ci)" | 16:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_ci' | 16:02 |
| mlavalle | o/ | 16:02 |
| haleyb | o/ | 16:02 |
| slaweq | hi | 16:02 |
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| ihrachys | thanks jlibosva for taking over the chair the prev meeting | 16:03 |
| ihrachys | afaiu Jakub won't join us today | 16:03 |
| mlavalle | ++ | 16:03 |
| ihrachys | #topic Actions from prev meeting | 16:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Actions from prev meeting (Meeting topic: neutron_ci)" | 16:03 | |
| ihrachys | "jlibosva to request a new release for ovsdbapp" | 16:03 |
| mlavalle | yes, he dropped of about 15 minutes ago | 16:03 |
| ihrachys | there is https://review.openstack.org/541056 and https://review.openstack.org/541112 in pipeline that should roll in new library into gates | 16:04 |
| patchbot | patch 541056 - requirements - update constraint for ovsdbapp to new release 0.9.1 | 16:04 |
| patchbot | patch 541112 - requirements (stable/pike) - update constraint for ovsdbapp to new release 0.4.2 | 16:04 |
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| ihrachys | "mlavalle and haleyb to follow up on how we can move forward floating ip failures in dvr scenario" | 16:05 |
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| mlavalle | haleyb is setting up an environment to replicate the issue. | 16:06 |
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| mlavalle | since we marked the test as unstable | 16:06 |
| haleyb | ihrachys: my only update is i have an environment but haven't replicated yet | 16:06 |
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| ihrachys | ok. I guess there is not much sense to roll the AI over and over going forward. I trust you to beat it to death. :) | 16:09 |
| ihrachys | next was "jlibosva to report bug about scenario failure for test_snat_external_ip" | 16:10 |
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| ihrachys | not sure it happened, can't find anything in gate-failure tagged bugs | 16:11 |
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| ihrachys | I sent him an email about it, we'll see if he followed up on that | 16:13 |
| mlavalle | ++ | 16:13 |
| ihrachys | ok that's all we had from prev meeting | 16:13 |
| ihrachys | #topic Grafana | 16:13 |
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| ihrachys | http://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/neutron-failure-rate | 16:13 |
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| ihrachys | before we walk through regular offenders, let's peek at periodics | 16:14 |
| ihrachys | mlavalle, afaiu https://review.openstack.org/#/c/539006 would move the jobs to neutron tree, then we would change names for jobs / clean up legacy jobs from infra repos? | 16:14 |
| patchbot | patch 539006 - neutron - Move periodic jobs to Neutron repo | 16:14 |
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| mlavalle | correct | 16:14 |
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| ihrachys | there seems to be some syntax error or smth. | 16:15 |
| ihrachys | ok that's covered then | 16:15 |
| mlavalle | I introduced a syntax error yesterday. I'll fix it today | 16:15 |
| mlavalle | in the first revision we had a funtional periodic job as well | 16:16 |
| mlavalle | but is seems it is the same as the normal functional | 16:16 |
| mlavalle | so I removed it yesterday | 16:16 |
| mlavalle | and when we add the other two to the periodic queue, we will also add the normal functional | 16:16 |
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| ihrachys | ok. -pg- (postgres) job of those periodic jobs shows some level of instability | 16:19 |
| ihrachys | but it's not clear if it's totally broken, since some days are fine | 16:19 |
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| ihrachys | I checked latest logs and it seems something is busted | 16:20 |
| ihrachys | http://logs.openstack.org/periodic/git.openstack.org/openstack/neutron/master/legacy-periodic-tempest-dsvm-neutron-pg-full/be7f73e/logs/devstacklog.txt.gz#_2018-02-06_06_24_58_783 | 16:20 |
| ihrachys | "Rolling upgrades are currently supported only for MySQL and Sqlite" | 16:20 |
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| ihrachys | and that's from glance section of devstack | 16:20 |
| ihrachys | I will report a bug for that and assign it to glance | 16:21 |
| ihrachys | #action ihrachys report bug for -pg- failure to glance | 16:21 |
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| ihrachys | fullstack is unstable, that's expected | 16:22 |
| ihrachys | functional is a tad better and I expect it to become a lot better when new ovsdbapp rolls in | 16:22 |
| slaweq | but it's better than last week at least | 16:22 |
| slaweq | :) | 16:22 |
| ihrachys | (actually, it may also help fullstack) | 16:22 |
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| ihrachys | slaweq, absolutely! | 16:22 |
| ihrachys | one thing of concern esp. close to releas is that ovsfw job, though of course non-voting, now at 100% | 16:23 |
| ihrachys | anyone aware of the reason for breakage / bug to look at? | 16:23 |
| slaweq | e.g. here: http://logs.openstack.org/54/537654/4/check/neutron-tempest-ovsfw/5c90b2b/logs/testr_results.html.gz IMO some error with SSH to vm | 16:24 |
| slaweq | I can report a bug and try to check it this week if You want | 16:25 |
| slaweq | *in this week | 16:25 |
| ihrachys | and based on what guests log, metadata is not accessible | 16:25 |
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| slaweq | http://logs.openstack.org/54/537654/4/check/neutron-tempest-ovsfw/5c90b2b/logs/screen-q-agt.txt.gz?level=ERROR | 16:26 |
| ihrachys | slaweq, well if you have cycles. jlibosva may be of help here. | 16:26 |
| ihrachys | yeah was going to post same link to agent log | 16:27 |
| ihrachys | it doesn't look healthy | 16:27 |
| slaweq | there are some errors related to ovsfw but I don't know if it is a reason | 16:27 |
| ihrachys | ofport: -1 for VIF: bdfda7ad-c656-46a3-bd83-a17878346c35 is not a positive integer | 16:27 |
| ihrachys | slaweq, it's probably worth marking the bug as blocker for release. mlavalle what do you think? | 16:28 |
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| ihrachys | this sea of red is not something we should release :) | 16:28 |
| mlavalle | yeah, I think it is a good idea | 16:28 |
| slaweq | ihrachys: I have some cycles so I will check it ASAP | 16:29 |
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| ihrachys | slaweq, great. make sure the bug is tagged for queens-rc1 | 16:29 |
| slaweq | sure | 16:29 |
| ihrachys | mlavalle, btw when is stable/queens cutoff / rc1? | 16:29 |
| mlavalle | rc1 is this coming Friday | 16:29 |
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| ihrachys | I wonder if our release liaison started to walk through pre-release check list. | 16:30 |
| ihrachys | probably not a q for this venue though, but smth to follow up with armax if not already, mlavalle. | 16:30 |
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| mlavalle | yeap | 16:30 |
| mlavalle | but he's been active | 16:30 |
| ihrachys | ok so ovsfw is covered too, great | 16:30 |
| ihrachys | #action slaweq to report bug for ovsfw job failure / sea of red in ovs agent logs | 16:31 |
| ihrachys | as for scenarios, linuxbridge is quite bad, but dvr one actually seems to mostly match trend spikes and dips of other tempest jobs, just a bit exaggerated | 16:32 |
| ihrachys | so there are probably some more issues somewhere there. we'll have a look right now on logs. | 16:33 |
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| ihrachys | actually, dvr is not that much better, it's just some spike in linuxbridge lately that has not reflected on dvr, but the shape for older period is same. | 16:34 |
| ihrachys | #topic Scenarios | 16:34 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Scenarios (Meeting topic: neutron_ci)" | 16:34 | |
| ihrachys | linuxbridge: http://logs.openstack.org/54/537654/4/check/neutron-tempest-plugin-scenario-linuxbridge/3272a19/logs/testr_results.html.gz | 16:35 |
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| ihrachys | ssh to fip failed | 16:35 |
| ihrachys | there is some warning in q-agt logged over and over: http://logs.openstack.org/54/537654/4/check/neutron-tempest-plugin-scenario-linuxbridge/3272a19/logs/screen-q-agt.txt.gz?level=WARNING | 16:37 |
| ihrachys | haleyb, any idea where that one comes from and whether it's harmful? | 16:37 |
| ihrachys | based on table name, neutron-linuxbri-qos-o15fb2c, it's probably smth qos related | 16:37 |
| haleyb | ihrachys: i don't know where it's coming from but don't think it's harmful | 16:37 |
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| haleyb | it could be something as simple as removing the rule with a different string than it was added | 16:40 |
| slaweq | it's strange because AFAIR qos is adding rules to MANGLE table only (but I might be wrong) | 16:40 |
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| ihrachys | right. but then wouldn't we e.g. potentially leave an old? | 16:40 |
| slaweq | actually it might be MANGLE table and POSTROUTING chain there | 16:41 |
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| ihrachys | here is another run: http://logs.openstack.org/68/540868/1/check/neutron-tempest-plugin-scenario-linuxbridge/01c4559/logs/testr_results.html.gz | 16:43 |
| ihrachys | also failing on ssh to fip, but different tests | 16:43 |
| ihrachys | looks like some random issues that are not specific to scenario, just ssh to fip | 16:43 |
| haleyb | slaweq: maybe because the chain removal triggered the rule removal? | 16:43 |
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| slaweq | haleyb: maybe, I really don't know now | 16:44 |
| haleyb | it's the postrouting rule in the mangle table | 16:44 |
| ihrachys | but a successful run has same messages: http://logs.openstack.org/57/523257/33/check/neutron-tempest-plugin-scenario-linuxbridge/35864c5/logs/screen-q-agt.txt.gz?level=WARNING so it's probably not the root cause | 16:44 |
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| haleyb | actually mangle table rule in the postrouting table, that's a mouthful | 16:45 |
| ihrachys | we will probably need to track through things like - whether FIP was reused; whether gARP was sent; whether ARP table was updated.. | 16:45 |
| ihrachys | I will bite that one | 16:46 |
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| ihrachys | #action ihrachys to look at linuxbridge scenario random failures when sshing to FIP | 16:46 |
| ihrachys | also, dvr scenarios fail from time to time | 16:48 |
| ihrachys | http://logs.openstack.org/57/523257/33/check/neutron-tempest-plugin-dvr-multinode-scenario/b907462/logs/testr_results.html.gz | 16:48 |
| ihrachys | similar symptoms actually | 16:48 |
| slaweq | I think that it's the issue which haleyb and mlavalle was talking at the beginning (in "actions from previous meeting") | 16:49 |
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| ihrachys | oh fip one? | 16:49 |
| slaweq | but I might be wrong | 16:49 |
| ihrachys | I also see this: http://logs.openstack.org/57/523257/33/check/neutron-tempest-plugin-dvr-multinode-scenario/b907462/logs/screen-q-agt.txt.gz?level=WARNING#_Feb_03_18_50_36_283366 that seems to resemble ovsfw- job failure | 16:49 |
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| ihrachys | but not sure, could as well be unrelated | 16:50 |
| ihrachys | the issue haleyb was trying to reproduce is for specific test cases that are disabled no? | 16:50 |
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| mlavalle | yes | 16:51 |
| ihrachys | ok I am not sure what to do with this failure. maybe allow it to slip since haleyb is already busy with another issue for the job related to FIPs. | 16:52 |
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| haleyb | was that just a warning or failure? | 16:54 |
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| ihrachys | well it fails test cases with ssh connection issues when used with FIP | 16:54 |
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| haleyb | oh, ERROR | 16:54 |
| ihrachys | http://logs.openstack.org/57/523257/33/check/neutron-tempest-plugin-dvr-multinode-scenario/b907462/logs/testr_results.html.gz | 16:55 |
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| ihrachys | it broke lots of tests | 16:55 |
| haleyb | ah, i saw WARNING in the url | 16:55 |
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| ihrachys | well yeah WARNINGs are just things we look at in hope they reveal the cause. but it's a legit failure. | 16:55 |
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| ihrachys | anyhow. I guess we will wait for more progress on that other FIP issue. | 16:56 |
| ihrachys | #topic Fullstack | 16:56 |
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| ihrachys | not much time but let's peek | 16:56 |
| slaweq | there is still one issue with security group tests: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1744402 | 16:57 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1744402 in neutron "fullstack security groups test fails because ncat process don't starts" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq) | 16:57 |
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| ihrachys | http://logs.openstack.org/14/531414/1/check/neutron-fullstack/55e82ca/logs/testr_results.html.gz | 16:57 |
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| ihrachys | slaweq, gotcha. fix here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/541242/ | 16:57 |
| patchbot | patch 541242 - neutron - [Fullstack] Mark security group test as unstable | 16:57 |
| ihrachys | oh it's just mark as unstable | 16:57 |
| slaweq | ihrachys: it's not a fix but related to this issue :) | 16:58 |
| ihrachys | ok | 16:58 |
| slaweq | I didn't have time yet to debug it | 16:58 |
| ihrachys | btw, before we wrap up | 16:59 |
| ihrachys | I noticed a colleague from ironic posted this revert for ovsfw patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/541297/1 | 16:59 |
| patchbot | patch 541297 - neutron - DNM Test Revert "ovsfw: Don't create rules if upda... | 16:59 |
| ihrachys | maybe they are onto something | 16:59 |
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| ihrachys | it would make sense to check with them what they try to do | 16:59 |
| ihrachys | ok time is out | 17:00 |
| ihrachys | thanks folks | 17:00 |
| ihrachys | #endmeeting | 17:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Feb 6 17:00:37 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ci/2018/neutron_ci.2018-02-06-16.02.html | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ci/2018/neutron_ci.2018-02-06-16.02.txt | 17:00 |
| slaweq | thx | 17:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ci/2018/neutron_ci.2018-02-06-16.02.log.html | 17:00 |
| mlavalle | o/ | 17:01 |
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| lbragstad | #startmeeting keystone | 18:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Feb 6 18:00:22 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is lbragstad. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 18:00 | |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'keystone' | 18:00 |
| cmurphy | o/ | 18:00 |
| lbragstad | ping ayoung, breton, cmurphy, dstanek, gagehugo, henrynash, hrybacki, knikolla, lamt, lbragstad, lwanderley, kmalloc, rderose, rodrigods, samueldmq, spilla, aselius, dpar, jdennis, ruan_he | 18:00 |
| hrybacki | o/ | 18:00 |
| spilla | o/ | 18:00 |
| lbragstad | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-weekly-meeting | 18:00 |
| lbragstad | agenda ^ | 18:00 |
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| knikolla | o/ is it that time already | 18:00 |
| gagehugo | o/ | 18:00 |
| samueldmq | o/ | 18:01 |
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| rodrigods | hey | 18:01 |
| lbragstad | we'll give folks a minute or two to join | 18:01 |
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| lbragstad | #topic release status | 18:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "release status (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 18:03 | |
| lbragstad | we are whittling down RC bugs, just a few left | 18:03 |
| lbragstad | #link https://goo.gl/A5Wz4Z | 18:03 |
| lbragstad | #link https://goo.gl/HgZSh5 | 18:03 |
| lbragstad | i think all but one have patches in review | 18:04 |
| lbragstad | and we have a few patches remaining to clean up our documentation | 18:04 |
| lbragstad | if there is anything missing from that list we need to include in Queens, please let me know | 18:04 |
| lbragstad | keep in mind, we are in string freeze | 18:05 |
| lbragstad | our RC-1 target is this friday | 18:05 |
| lbragstad | #link https://releases.openstack.org/queens/schedule.html#q-rc1 | 18:05 |
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| lbragstad | any questions on the release so far? | 18:05 |
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| lbragstad | #topic PTG planning | 18:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "PTG planning (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 18:06 | |
| lbragstad | in other news, we have rough schedules outlined for the PTG | 18:07 |
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| lbragstad | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-February/126998.html | 18:07 |
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| lbragstad | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-February/126999.html | 18:07 |
| lbragstad | since keystone has several items on the baremetal/vm SIG schedule, i took a stab at mapping that out for monday and tuesday | 18:07 |
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| lbragstad | early feedback is welcome, please let me know if you see issues in the scheduling | 18:07 |
| hrybacki | Schedule is starting to look good! Wednesday looks pretty open still too | 18:08 |
| lbragstad | we're early enough to move things around if needed | 18:08 |
| lbragstad | and yeah, we have several open sessions, so we can work on some other things, too | 18:08 |
| hrybacki | +1 | 18:08 |
| lbragstad | or add more topics, so if there is something you want to tackle at the PTG, feel free to add it to one of the sessions! | 18:08 |
| lbragstad | does anyone have questions about the PTG, or schedule in general? | 18:09 |
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| knikolla | looks good | 18:11 |
| lbragstad | cool | 18:11 |
| lbragstad | #topic call for Vancouver presenters | 18:11 |
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| lbragstad | this always sneaks up on me | 18:11 |
| knikolla | yup | 18:11 |
| knikolla | i just realized today | 18:11 |
| lbragstad | but the deadline for talk proposals is tomorrow | 18:11 |
| rodrigods | first summit i won't attend in a few years :( | 18:11 |
| lbragstad | :( | 18:12 |
| knikolla | it's thursday i think? | 18:12 |
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| knikolla | "The Call for Presentations will close on February 8, 2018" | 18:12 |
| lbragstad | yep - you're right | 18:12 |
| lbragstad | thursday* | 18:12 |
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| knikolla | i'll have one about our sso setup probably. | 18:13 |
| lbragstad | by the time i take my head out of the sand because of the release, the deadline is *right* here | 18:13 |
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| lbragstad | so - apologies for not getting this on the radar sooner | 18:13 |
| lbragstad | knikolla: ++ | 18:13 |
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| lbragstad | is anyone else looking to submit proposals? | 18:13 |
| * gagehugo needs to submit some today | 18:14 | |
| lbragstad | i plan on submitting on for system scope | 18:14 |
| lbragstad | one* | 18:15 |
| lbragstad | if anyone wants to co-present one on system scope, let me know! | 18:15 |
| lbragstad | or unified limits | 18:15 |
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| knikolla | i'm always up if someone doesn't feel more strongly about presenting. | 18:16 |
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| lbragstad | cool - we can work through the details in office hours, too | 18:17 |
| gagehugo | ok | 18:17 |
| lbragstad | that's about all i had there | 18:18 |
| lbragstad | #topic open discussion | 18:18 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 18:18 | |
| lbragstad | floor is open | 18:18 |
| rodrigods | hey lbragstad | 18:19 |
| rodrigods | for the next Outreachy round | 18:19 |
| lbragstad | yep | 18:19 |
| rodrigods | anything on the road for Rocky that we could accommodate there? | 18:19 |
| lbragstad | oh - i'm sure there is, we were just working on a list of internship ideas for Google Summer of Code | 18:20 |
| lbragstad | during last week's meeting | 18:20 |
| hrybacki | ohhh did we ever get that info off to them lbragstad ? | 18:20 |
| rodrigods | damm, i was traveling | 18:20 |
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| rodrigods | is openstack an org for gsoc this year? | 18:20 |
| lbragstad | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-internship-ideas | 18:21 |
| rodrigods | didn't know that | 18:21 |
| lbragstad | we voted on them | 18:21 |
| hrybacki | rodrigods: yep | 18:21 |
| rodrigods | nice | 18:21 |
| rodrigods | is the application for mentors over yet? | 18:21 |
| lbragstad | for GSoC or outreachy? | 18:21 |
| rodrigods | gsoc | 18:22 |
| lbragstad | cc vkmc ^ | 18:22 |
| vkmc | o/ | 18:22 |
| lbragstad | afaik they are still in the process of vetting openstack | 18:22 |
| vkmc | it's not over yet | 18:22 |
| rodrigods | nice vkmc | 18:22 |
| vkmc | we will hear back from GSoC org next Monday (Feb 12th) | 18:22 |
| rodrigods | i will sync with you for both outreachy and gsoc | 18:22 |
| vkmc | you still have time to jump in as mentor and propose new internship ideas | 18:22 |
| vkmc | awesome! | 18:22 |
| vkmc | thanks rodrigods | 18:23 |
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| lbragstad | vkmc: we did filter through the proposals we had | 18:25 |
| lbragstad | and came up with a list that's probably better suited for an internship | 18:25 |
| vkmc | lbragstad, cool! | 18:25 |
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| vkmc | is that in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-internship-ideas? | 18:25 |
| lbragstad | yep | 18:26 |
| vkmc | nice | 18:26 |
| vkmc | lbragstad, are there some volunteer mentors? | 18:27 |
| lbragstad | let me add another section for mentors under each proposal | 18:27 |
| vkmc | cool! | 18:28 |
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| lbragstad | vkmc: are we suppose to pass those ideas off somewhere? | 18:31 |
| vkmc | lbragstad, I can do that | 18:31 |
| lbragstad | awesome | 18:32 |
| vkmc | updating https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/GSoC2018 and https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/GSoC2018#Internship_ideas to match those updates | 18:32 |
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| lbragstad | cool - thanks | 18:33 |
| lbragstad | anything else we want to cover today? | 18:34 |
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| vkmc | thanks all! | 18:35 |
| lbragstad | thanks for coming, see you in office hours | 18:36 |
| lbragstad | #endmeeting | 18:36 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Feb 6 18:36:22 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:36 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2018/keystone.2018-02-06-18.00.html | 18:36 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2018/keystone.2018-02-06-18.00.txt | 18:36 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2018/keystone.2018-02-06-18.00.log.html | 18:36 |
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| * fungi peers around for infra people | 19:00 | |
| corvus | o/ | 19:00 |
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| ianw | 3 ... 2 ... 1 ... liftoff | 19:00 |
| clarkb | hello! | 19:01 |
| tobiash | hi | 19:01 |
| corvus | 20:45 UTC is latest | 19:01 |
| clarkb | I learned last week that "Trini" is apparently how you refer to peopel from trinidad. Does that makes us "Infras" | 19:01 |
| clarkb | #startmeeting infra | 19:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Feb 6 19:01:45 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is clarkb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'infra' | 19:01 |
| ianw | yeah, if someone wants to write an app that dynamically moves alarms based on launch delays, that would be awesome | 19:01 |
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| AJaeger | o/ | 19:01 |
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| clarkb | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/InfraTeamMeeting#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 19:02 |
| clarkb | word of warning this morning's fires have me not very well prepared for the meeting but we do have an agenda and we'll do our best | 19:02 |
| clarkb | #topic Announcements | 19:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:02 | |
| hrw | o/ | 19:02 |
| clarkb | The summit CFP closes on the 8th (that is like 1.5 days from now) | 19:03 |
| clarkb | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/infra-rocky-ptg PTG Brainstorming | 19:03 |
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| clarkb | And finally it is PTL election season with nominations happening for another day or so | 19:04 |
| clarkb | #topic Actions from last meeting | 19:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Actions from last meeting (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:04 | |
| clarkb | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2018/infra.2018-01-30-19.01.txt Notes from last meeting | 19:05 |
| clarkb | #action clarkb / corvus / everyone / to take pass through old zuul and nodepool master branch changes to at least categorize changes | 19:05 |
| clarkb | I don't think we've really had time to do ^ with the various fires we've been fighting so we'll keep that on the board | 19:05 |
| corvus | i *think* we've worked through the backlog there | 19:05 |
| clarkb | oh cool. Should I undo it then? | 19:06 |
| corvus | tobiash and i (maybe others?) did a bunch last week, and, at least, i think we're done | 19:06 |
| clarkb | #undo | 19:06 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: #action clarkb / corvus / everyone / to take pass through old zuul and nodepool master branch changes to at least categorize changes | 19:06 |
| clarkb | thank you everyone for somehow managing to get through that despite the fires | 19:06 |
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| clarkb | I'm still on the hook for cleaning out old specs | 19:06 |
| clarkb | #action clarkb clear out old infra specs | 19:06 |
| clarkb | #topic Specs approval | 19:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Specs approval (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:07 | |
| clarkb | Any specs stuff we need to go over that I have missed? | 19:07 |
| clarkb | Sounds like no | 19:08 |
| pabelanger | o/ | 19:08 |
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| clarkb | #topic Priority Efforts | 19:08 |
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| clarkb | #topic Zuul v3 | 19:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Zuul v3 (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:08 | |
| clarkb | corvus: you wanted to talk about the zuul executor OOMing | 19:08 |
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| corvus | the oom-killer has a habit of killing the log streaming daemon | 19:09 |
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| corvus | we thought this was because it was running out of memory | 19:09 |
| corvus | understandably | 19:09 |
| corvus | but on closer inspection, i don't think it actually is. i think it only thinks it is. | 19:09 |
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| fungi | a false-positive? | 19:09 |
| corvus | now that the governors are improved, we can see that even with 50% +/- 10% of the physical memory "available", we've still seen oom-killer invoked | 19:10 |
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| corvus | the problem appears to be that the memory is not 'free', just 'reclaimable'. especially 'reclaimable slab' memory. | 19:10 |
| corvus | there have been some kernel bugs related to this, and a lot of changes, especially around the early 4.4 kernels | 19:11 |
| corvus | i'm inclined to think that we're suffering from our workload patterns being suboptimal for whatever kernel memory management is going on | 19:11 |
| fungi | ahh, that's believable | 19:12 |
| clarkb | one suggestion I had was to try the hwe kernels ubuntu publishes. I've had reasonably good luck locally with them due to hardware needs but they get you a 4.13 kernel on xenial | 19:12 |
| fungi | worth considering | 19:12 |
| clarkb | considering these servers are mostly disposable and replaceable we can always rebuild them with older kernels if necessary as well | 19:12 |
| corvus | i think our options include: a) throw more executors at the problem and therefore use less ram. b) try to tune kernel memory management parameters. c) open a bug report and try kernel bugfixes. d) try a different kernel via hwe or os upgrade. | 19:13 |
| fungi | you can easily switch between default boot kernels without rebuilding, for that matter | 19:13 |
| dmsimard | hwe kernel is worth a shot | 19:13 |
| corvus | yeah, i'm inclined to start with 4.13 | 19:13 |
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| fungi | that seems like the easiest way to rule out old fixed bugs (at the risk of discovering newer ones) | 19:13 |
| dmsimard | we can even try it "online".. as in, install it, reboot without rebuilding the instance from a new image | 19:13 |
| fungi | dmsimard: yeah, that's what i was assuming we'd do | 19:14 |
| corvus | i'm not enthused about debugging 4.4 at this point in its lifecycle | 19:14 |
| pabelanger | is tuning OOM killer something we want to try too? As to not kill an executor process before ansible-playbook? | 19:14 |
| dmsimard | fungi: I forget if they have a PPA for them but I've installed them "manually" from http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ before | 19:14 |
| clarkb | we are also a few months away from new ubuntu lts release which should in theory be a simpler upgrade since we've already done the systemd jump | 19:14 |
| clarkb | so we may not have to live with the hwe kernel for long | 19:15 |
| fungi | pabelanger: i think the concern with tuning is that the bug would still be present, and we'd just kill other things | 19:15 |
| dmsimard | fungi: ah that's a ppa right in a URL | 19:15 |
| clarkb | fungi: ya that should probably be a last resort especially if we actually do have memory available after all | 19:15 |
| fungi | dmsimard: not a ppa, just a non-default kernel package (might be in the backports suite though) | 19:15 |
| pabelanger | fungi: yah, thought is if we kill ansible-playbook, job would be aborted and retried? Where if we lose executor we have to restart everything. But agree, not best solution | 19:15 |
| hrw | ubuntu hwe kernels works fine. my private server runs them since they started doing them | 19:15 |
| clarkb | hrw: ya mine home server runs it too | 19:16 |
| clarkb | the only downside I've seen was getting kpti patches took longer than the base kernel | 19:16 |
| corvus | we have had a bad experince with them in the past. they broke openafs the last time we had ne installed. | 19:16 |
| corvus | the executors need openafs | 19:16 |
| fungi | it's not so much whether they "work fine" but whether we turn up new and worse bugs than we're trying to rule out | 19:16 |
| corvus | that's something to look out for | 19:17 |
| fungi | all kernel versions have bugs. new versions usually have some new bugs too | 19:17 |
| fungi | yes, the openafs lkm does complicate this a little too (not logistically, just surface area for previously unnoticed bugs/incompatibilities) | 19:18 |
| clarkb | right if this was the gerrit server for example I'd be more cautious | 19:18 |
| corvus | okay, so let's start with an in-place test of hwe kernel, then maybe there's some voodoo mm stuff we can try (like disabling cgroups memory management), then maybe we throw more machines at it until we get yet another newer kernel with the upgrade? | 19:18 |
| clarkb | but we can fairly easily undo any kernel updates on these zuul executors | 19:18 |
| pabelanger | wfm | 19:18 |
| clarkb | corvus: sounds like a reasonable start | 19:18 |
| ianw | yeah, seems like we are a/b testing basically, and it's easily reverted | 19:19 |
| dmsimard | It seems we are using fairly old version of bubblewrap ? 0.1.8 which goes back to March 2017 -- there was 0.2.0 released in October 2017 but nothing after that. The reason I mention that is because there seems to be a history of memory leak: https://github.com/projectatomic/bubblewrap/issues/224 | 19:19 |
| fungi | and yeah, the newer kernel packages are just in the main suite for xenial, so no backports suite or ppa addition to sources.list needed: https://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/linux-image-4.13.0-32-generic | 19:20 |
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| fungi | #link https://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/linux-image-4.13.0-32-generic xenial package page for linux-image-4.13.0-32-generic | 19:20 |
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| corvus | i'd recommend ze02 for a test machine, it oomed yesterday | 19:20 |
| corvus | anyone want to volunteer for installing hwe on ze02 and rebooting? i'm deep into the zk problem | 19:21 |
| ianw | i can take that on if we like, i have all day :) | 19:21 |
| clarkb | ianw: thanks! | 19:21 |
| corvus | ianw: awesome, thx! | 19:21 |
| clarkb | corvus: re zk I put an agenda item re losing zk connection requires scheduler restart. Is that what you are debugging? | 19:22 |
| corvus | clarkb: yep | 19:22 |
| clarkb | I wasn't sure if this was a known issue with planned fixes that just need effort or if its debugging and fixing that hasn't been done yet or is in progress | 19:22 |
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| corvus | it's a logic bug in zuul that should be correctible. i'm working on fixing it now | 19:23 |
| clarkb | ok so keep an eye out for change(s) to fix that and try to review | 19:23 |
| clarkb | Anything else we want to talk about before moving on? | 19:24 |
| dmsimard | I'll just link this pad which summarizes what we had today: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/HRUjBTyabM | 19:24 |
| dmsimard | (not sure if I can #link as non-chair) | 19:25 |
| clarkb | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/HRUjBTyabM for info on zuul outage today | 19:25 |
| clarkb | dmsimard: I think you can but ^ got it | 19:25 |
| clarkb | #topic General Topics | 19:25 |
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| clarkb | ianw hrw arm64/aarch64 (is one more correct than the other?) updates? | 19:26 |
| ianw | oh, that was from ages ago, just haven't taken it out | 19:26 |
| hrw | clarkb: aarch64 is architecture name, arm64 is popular alias | 19:26 |
| ianw | but i can | 19:26 |
| ianw | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-infra/2018-February/005817.html | 19:26 |
| clarkb | ah wasn't sure if you wanted to give a new update since I'm guessing things have moved over the last week? | 19:27 |
| ianw | i sent that update | 19:27 |
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| fungi | yeah, arm64 is simply what debian called their port (and a number of other popular distros followed suit) | 19:27 |
| fungi | much like ppc64 | 19:27 |
| ianw | basically there's some AFS patches out which seem to work ... i have a custom build and need to puppet that into the mirror server | 19:27 |
| ianw | gpt support for dib is done i think | 19:28 |
| ianw | EFI is going pretty well; i can produce working efi images for amd64 & arm64 | 19:28 |
| ianw | next thing to test is the infra elements + base build on arm64 | 19:28 |
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| ianw | once we have all that sorted, nothing to stop us launching nodes! | 19:28 |
| clarkb | neat! | 19:29 |
| hrw | I spoke with Andreas on sunday to mark those patches as priority ones ;D | 19:30 |
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| pabelanger | cool | 19:31 |
| ianw | yeah, i still have the block-device-* element stuff marked as WIP, but i'm getting more convinced it's the way to go, no major problems seem to be revealing themselves | 19:32 |
| fungi | that's excellent news | 19:32 |
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| clarkb | #topic Project Renames | 19:34 |
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| clarkb | I think we've got the pieces in place to actually be able to perform these sanely now | 19:34 |
| clarkb | mordred: fungi I think you were going to try and write up a process that could be used? | 19:35 |
| clarkb | it would probably be good to schedule this and try to get it down though as it has been quite a while | 19:35 |
| clarkb | and in the process we can try ianw's fix for the nova specs repo replication | 19:35 |
| fungi | i can give it a shot... though i'm not entirely sure the extent to which a project (or at least its jobs?) need to be entirely unwound in zuul before renaming | 19:35 |
| fungi | i suppose we can merge a change which tells zuul to ignore the in-repo configuration temporarily until it gets patched | 19:36 |
| clarkb | fungi: ya could just remove it from the zuul project list temporarily | 19:37 |
| fungi | though unsure whether that's sufficient | 19:37 |
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| clarkb | its going to have to be updted there regardless | 19:37 |
| fungi | oh, true we could entirely remove it from zuul, bypass code review to merge the config changes in those repos, then readd with the new name | 19:37 |
| clarkb | looking at a calendar release happens during ptg so probably the earliest we want to do renames is week after ptg | 19:38 |
| fungi | i'd be cool with trying it then | 19:38 |
| fungi | unless that's too soon after the main release due to the release-rtailing projects | 19:38 |
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| fungi | er, release-trailing | 19:38 |
| corvus | i won't be around ptg+1 week | 19:38 |
| mordred | clarkb: gah. sorry - was looking away from computer with heads in code | 19:38 |
| fungi | worth checking with the release team on when would be a good time for a scheduler gerrit outage | 19:39 |
| fungi | er, scheduled | 19:39 |
| clarkb | ok lets ping them and ask | 19:39 |
| clarkb | I can do that | 19:39 |
| fungi | cool. it could also just get discussed wit them at the ptg if preferred | 19:40 |
| clarkb | corvus: you are back the ptg +2 week? | 19:40 |
| * mordred will be around both weeks | 19:40 | |
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| clarkb | fungi: do you think if we corner them at ptg we'll have a better shot at getting the day we want? :P | 19:41 |
| corvus | clarkb: yep, should be | 19:41 |
| fungi | i think the answer will be the same either way. they're a surprisingly consistent lot ;) | 19:41 |
| clarkb | alright then lets sync up with them and go from there | 19:41 |
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| corvus | (i don't think i'm a required participant, just adding info) | 19:42 |
| clarkb | #topic Open Discussion | 19:42 |
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| fungi | the more infra-root admins we have on hand during the rename maintenance in case of emergencies, the better. also deep understanding of zuul job configuration will be helpful if we have to think on our feet this first time | 19:43 |
| clarkb | re zuul networking outage this morning/last night (whatever it is relative to your timezone) it would be good to not forget to sort out the ipv6 situation on the executors | 19:43 |
| clarkb | I think that if we end up leaving them in that state for more than a day we should consider removing AAAA records in DNS | 19:43 |
| pabelanger | I'd like to maybe discuss how we can start testing migration to zookeeper cluster, might even be better topic for PTG | 19:43 |
| corvus | remove gerrit's quad a? | 19:43 |
| ianw | clarkb: is that the current theory for why things dropped out of zk? | 19:44 |
| fungi | yeah, as soon as the rest of the executors get service restarts to pick up newer zuul performance improvements, i'll be stopping ze09 and rebooting it with its zuul-executor service disabled so it can be used to open a ticket with rackspace | 19:44 |
| clarkb | corvus: the zuul executors | 19:44 |
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| clarkb | corvus: beacuse things talk to them and may resolve AAAA too | 19:44 |
| clarkb | (specifically won't the console streaming do something like that from the scheduler?) | 19:44 |
| corvus | clarkb: ok, but the big issue we saw was the executors not connecting to gerrit... very little is inbound to executors... just log streaming i think | 19:44 |
| fungi | i favor building replacement executors rather than running some with no ipv6 longer-term | 19:45 |
| clarkb | I'm just thinking if the lack of ipv6 is going to be longish term then not having dns records for those IPs would probably be good | 19:45 |
| fungi | though at this point we have no reason to believe we won't end up with new instances exhibiting the same issues | 19:45 |
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| fungi | leaving some ipv6-less means inconsistencies between executors which seems equally bad unless we're doing it explicitly to test something | 19:46 |
| corvus | clarkb: yeah... i'm worried that if the issue is 'ipv6 is broken in all directions' then those records are actually the least of our worries | 19:46 |
| dmsimard | can we open a ticket with rax to see if there is any known issues ? | 19:46 |
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| clarkb | corvus: ya I think we should work to get a ticket into rax too to make sure that they at least know about it | 19:46 |
| dmsimard | It seems odd that only certain executors are affected | 19:46 |
| fungi | dmsimard: to restate what i just said above "yeah, as soon as the rest of the executors get service restarts to pick up newer zuul performance improvements, i'll be stopping ze09 and rebooting it with its zuul-executor service disabled so it can be used to open a ticket with rackspace" | 19:47 |
| clarkb | dmsimard: if I had to guess its nova cell related | 19:47 |
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| clarkb | knowing what little I know about rackspace's internals | 19:47 |
| dmsimard | fungi: +1 | 19:47 |
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| clarkb | corvus: maybe we wait for people to notice log streaming is broken? | 19:49 |
| clarkb | (though I haven't confirmed that and may jsut work due to failover to v4 magically) | 19:49 |
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| corvus | yeah, it's broken enough these days i wouldn't sweat it. | 19:50 |
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| clarkb | As a heads up I'm doing a day trip to seattle on friday to talk about infra things in a bar | 19:51 |
| clarkb | so I will probably be mostly afk doing that | 19:51 |
| Shrews | clarkb: let's all do that | 19:52 |
| ianw | oh, one thing that came up in our discussions over AFS was there might be a request for us to try out kafs | 19:52 |
| fungi | it's what i do every day | 19:52 |
| AJaeger | clarkb: nice ;) | 19:52 |
| ianw | i suggested that we might be able to load-balance in a kafs based mirror server at some point as a testing environment | 19:52 |
| clarkb | ianw: til about kafs. I think that would be worthwhile to test considering the afs incompatibility with ubuntu's hwe kernels on xenial | 19:53 |
| corvus | does it support the sha256 based keys? | 19:53 |
| fungi | i'm still struggling to find the official page for it | 19:54 |
| ianw | i don't know details like that ATM :) | 19:54 |
| ianw | #link https://wiki.openafs.org/devel/LinuxKAFSNotes/ | 19:54 |
| corvus | it's worth doing some manual local testing to make sure it works | 19:54 |
| ianw | has some details | 19:54 |
| fungi | thanks | 19:55 |
| clarkb | looks like 4.15 included major improvements to kafs so we may need a very new kernel for it to be useable | 19:55 |
| clarkb | but we can test that | 19:55 |
| clarkb | also it supports ipv6 neat | 19:55 |
| ianw | yeah, it's definitely a custom hand-held rollout for testing | 19:56 |
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| fungi | i'm wondering how kafs could effectively support ipv6 without a v6-supporting afs server | 19:56 |
| fungi | since kafs just looks like a client cache manager | 19:56 |
| clarkb | fungi: looks like maybe that is for auristor? | 19:57 |
| fungi | also, i thought v4-isms in the protocol abounded and a newer afs-like protocol or protocol revision was needed to do it over v6 | 19:57 |
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| fungi | so maybe auristor supports an afs-like protocol over v6, i suppose | 19:58 |
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| clarkb | alright we are just about at time. Thanks everyone! If you like rocket launches we are about 45 minutes away from the falcon heavy launch | 19:58 |
| clarkb | I'm goign to go find lunch now | 19:59 |
| clarkb | #endmeeting | 19:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Feb 6 19:59:11 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2018/infra.2018-02-06-19.01.html | 19:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2018/infra.2018-02-06-19.01.txt | 19:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2018/infra.2018-02-06-19.01.log.html | 19:59 |
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| martial | Well SpaceX launch is done :) | 20:59 |
| martial | and just in time for the next OpenStack meeting as well :) | 20:59 |
| trandles | damn, I missed the launch! | 21:00 |
| martial | was pretty cool :) | 21:00 |
| martial | #startmeeting Scientific-SIG | 21:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Feb 6 21:01:03 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is martial. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Scientific-SIG)" | 21:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'scientific_sig' | 21:01 |
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| martial | #chair b1airo | 21:01 |
| openstack | Current chairs: b1airo martial | 21:01 |
| martial | Hi Blair, welcome | 21:01 |
| b1airo | Hi martial | 21:01 |
| martial | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Scientific_SIG#IRC_Meeting_February_6th_2018 | 21:01 |
| martial | The agenda is listed above | 21:02 |
| martial | #topic Vancouver Summit - 2 days left for CFP | 21:02 |
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| martial | So as the topic indicate, if you are waiting to add a presentation for the Vancouver summit, you have two days to do so | 21:02 |
| b1airo | Hop to it! | 21:03 |
| b1airo | Anything interesting from Datamachines? | 21:03 |
| martial | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/vancouver-2018/summit-categories | 21:03 |
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| martial | b1airo: so far not too much, we have things, but nothing ready for presentation at this summit | 21:04 |
| martial | maybe later this year | 21:04 |
| b1airo | Sounds good | 21:04 |
| martial | not sure if other people have something to add to this PSA | 21:05 |
| b1airo | Did u see zioproto has been doing some k8s as a service stuff - I hope he submits that for a talk | 21:05 |
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| martial | b1airo saw it, I agree, I look forward to the presentation (hopefully even accepted as a main talk) | 21:06 |
| martial | (especially because it would be recorded) | 21:06 |
| martial | if that is it or this topic, let's move to the next topic | 21:07 |
| martial | #topic Dublin PTG - SIG time scheduled for development advocacy | 21:07 |
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| martial | This is something more relevant if Stif was with us | 21:08 |
| martial | (Stig) | 21:08 |
| martial | but Stig will be at the Dublin PTG at the end of this month | 21:08 |
| martial | and we understand there will be 1/2 day scheduled for the Scientific SIG | 21:09 |
| martial | we started collecting ideas on this topic last week | 21:09 |
| martial | if you have information/topics to add to the conversation , please share them with us (Stig in particular) | 21:10 |
| martial | going once :) | 21:11 |
| martial | okay, moving on then | 21:12 |
| martial | #topic HPCAC Lugano - 9-12 April | 21:12 |
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| martial | #link https://www.cscs.ch/publications/press-releases/swiss-hpc-advisory-council-conference-2018-hpcxxl-user-group/ | 21:12 |
| b1airo | Pretty quiet today | 21:12 |
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| martial | I am not too aware of this, but it looks like a call for paper, unfortunately the CFP is closed at this point | 21:14 |
| martial | so more a FYI than anything else (sorry) | 21:14 |
| martial | so moving on | 21:14 |
| martial | #topic P2302/ORCA meeting in March | 21:15 |
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| martial | this one I can talk about | 21:15 |
| martial | I have been part of the P2302 effort as well as the ORCA efforts | 21:16 |
| trandles | I'm here so you two don't think you're talking to each other :P | 21:16 |
| martial | so we (P2302 and ORCA) plan to have a Cloud Federation meeting to continue the effort of the P2302 and ORCA independent conversations | 21:17 |
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| martial | by having a joint meeting on March 19th and 20th in Gaithersburg, MD | 21:17 |
| martial | we are finalizing the location (hotel, not NIST) and will share the link to register shortly | 21:18 |
| martial | we are also interested in discussing --as usual-- possible speakers | 21:18 |
| martial | I had a meeting earlier Today about this topic and we are wondering if people such as trandles jmlowe rbudden priteau are interested in joining (it is US based) | 21:19 |
| b1airo | trandles: o/ | 21:19 |
| martial | the big difference being that this time, the meeting will be also in association with an IEEE effort | 21:20 |
| trandles | I'm not sure I can make it martial | 21:20 |
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| trandles | I'm on travel now, I was on travel two weeks ago, I'm on travel first week of March | 21:20 |
| trandles | b1airo: \o | 21:21 |
| martial | trandles: bummer, let me know | 21:21 |
| trandles | yeah I'll know more closer to early March | 21:21 |
| martial | we are coordinating the meeting and will have a follow up at the Vancouver Summit | 21:22 |
| trandles | in somewhat related news, containers in HPC is all the rage in the meetings I've been attending | 21:22 |
| rbudden | martial: I need to confirm with my boss about Vancouver, but if I get the go ahead I’m in for helping | 21:22 |
| martial | rbudden: happy to have you on board, we can talk about how you can help :) | 21:23 |
| rbudden | :) | 21:23 |
| martial | at this stage, we will confirm information as soon as possible | 21:24 |
| martial | but basically the dates and general area (east coast) are set | 21:24 |
| martial | and now for the one topic that we are opening to discussion to everybody around :) | 21:25 |
| b1airo | trandles: new news in the HPC container world? | 21:25 |
| martial | #topic AOB: containers in HPC is all the rage | 21:26 |
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| martial | all yours trandles :) | 21:26 |
| martial | (we will go to the agenda item in a few minutes :) ) | 21:26 |
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| trandles | HPC container runtimes (Shifter, Charliecloud, Singularity) are generating a lot of interest. Consensus is building that using the docker toolchain for building and distributing images is the best path forward because all of the runtimes can work with it. | 21:26 |
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| martial | cool :) | 21:27 |
| trandles | some of us DOE-types are attempting to get docker on board to do an HPC-friendly runtime | 21:27 |
| martial | any luck? | 21:28 |
| martial | the next DockerCon federal will be in DC in a few months | 21:28 |
| trandles | i.e. unprivileged, no docker daemon required on local nodes, support for diskless nodes, scale-out to deploying big (10's of GB) images to thousands of nodes | 21:28 |
| trandles | um, luck in that they're willing to listen and even start to poke at some of our pain points | 21:29 |
| martial | okay it is a start | 21:29 |
| trandles | this is all pretty new so we'll see if we can build momentum with them | 21:29 |
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| trandles | But, it's obvious enough to us on the HPC operations side that what our users want is docker. Not something docker-like...they want docker... | 21:30 |
| trandles | that's all I have for now, I'll report more as it happens | 21:31 |
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| martial | thank you Tim, that is very good news, even if preliminary | 21:31 |
| b1airo | Thanks trandles - useful to have an ear to the ground in this area | 21:31 |
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| martial | cool :) | 21:34 |
| martial | thanks Tim | 21:34 |
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| martial | last topic | 21:36 |
| martial | #topic Meltdown/Spectre performance impacts: does anyone have information to share | 21:36 |
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| martial | anybody has any examples/test cases to share with us? | 21:37 |
| martial | this one in particular was more a request for information | 21:38 |
| martial | I did not see any answer to my email | 21:39 |
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| martial | nor does it seem are there much content on the channel just now :) | 21:39 |
| martial | maybe we can keep the call open for a further meeting | 21:39 |
| martial | which would lead us to the last topic of the day for this meeting | 21:40 |
| martial | going once ... | 21:40 |
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| martial | #topics AOB | 21:41 |
| martial | open floor | 21:41 |
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| martial | okay well, then we might adjourn a little early | 21:44 |
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| martial | thank you everybody for joining our weekly meeting and talk to you at the next meeting | 21:45 |
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| martial | #endmeeting | 21:45 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Feb 6 21:45:59 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:46 |
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