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| hongbin | #startmeeting zun | 03:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue Nov 21 03:00:44 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is hongbin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 03:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 03:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: zun)" | 03:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'zun' | 03:00 |
| hongbin | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Zun#Agenda_for_2017-11-21_0300_UTC Today's agenda | 03:00 |
| hongbin | #topic Roll Call | 03:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roll Call (Meeting topic: zun)" | 03:00 | |
| kevinz | o/ | 03:01 |
| hongbin | hi kevinz | 03:02 |
| hongbin | it looks it is two of us | 03:02 |
| mkrai | o/ | 03:02 |
| hongbin | hi mkrai | 03:02 |
| mkrai | hi hongbin kevinz | 03:02 |
| hongbin | there are three people today | 03:02 |
| kevinz | hi | 03:02 |
| hongbin | we can do a quick update of each of us , then end the meeting shortly | 03:02 |
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| mkrai | Yes sounds good | 03:03 |
| hongbin | kevinz: want to go first ? | 03:03 |
| kevinz | ok | 03:03 |
| kevinz | I'm working on cinder attach volume with capsule | 03:03 |
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| hongbin | cool | 03:04 |
| kevinz | I have a problem | 03:04 |
| kevinz | do we now can support zun run to create a new volume and attach it to container? | 03:04 |
| hongbin | yes | 03:05 |
| hongbin | zun run --mount source=<volume_id>,destination=<path> <image | 03:05 |
| hongbin | this is the command to do it | 03:05 |
| hongbin | oh, create a new volume | 03:05 |
| kevinz | if the volume don't exist, | 03:05 |
| kevinz | yes | 03:05 |
| hongbin | that is not supported, sorry for that | 03:06 |
| kevinz | OK feel free. | 03:06 |
| hongbin | any idea about that ? | 03:06 |
| kevinz | maybe we can do just set the destination could create a new volume? | 03:07 |
| hongbin | yes, i am open for that | 03:07 |
| kevinz | zun run --mount destination=<path> <image | 03:07 |
| hongbin | this might requires to extend the --mount option to support parameters for cinder create | 03:07 |
| mkrai | +1 for it | 03:08 |
| hongbin | e.g. size, name, ... | 03:08 |
| kevinz | Yes | 03:08 |
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| hongbin | sure, that could be a good idea | 03:08 |
| kevinz | If we agree, I will do this one | 03:08 |
| hongbin | +1 | 03:08 |
| kevinz | Cool, thanks hongbin mkrai | 03:08 |
| hongbin | thanks kevinz | 03:09 |
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| kevinz | my pleasure | 03:09 |
| hongbin | anything else from your side kevinz ? | 03:09 |
| kevinz | That all from me | 03:10 |
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| hongbin | ok, thanks kevinz | 03:10 |
| hongbin | mkrai: you have anything to update ? | 03:10 |
| mkrai | hongbin: yes a little | 03:10 |
| mkrai | I update the patch for CC support in devstack to include check for virt flags | 03:11 |
| mkrai | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/499534/ | 03:11 |
| mkrai | There is some failure in the patch | 03:11 |
| hongbin | cool | 03:11 |
| mkrai | So I will check it in this week | 03:11 |
| hongbin | ok, the flag is good | 03:11 |
| mkrai | hongbin: all CI is on VM? | 03:11 |
| hongbin | mkrai: i think so | 03:12 |
| mkrai | Ok that's the reason it fails | 03:12 |
| mkrai | but there should be a warning not failure | 03:12 |
| mkrai | So I will update the patch | 03:12 |
| mkrai | hongbin: If you have time, please review :) | 03:13 |
| hongbin | mkrai: ok, sure | 03:13 |
| mkrai | thank you hongbin | 03:13 |
| mkrai | That's all from me | 03:13 |
| hongbin | thanks mkrai | 03:13 |
| hongbin | from me, a short update | 03:13 |
| hongbin | i am cleaning up the PCI/SR-IOV patches | 03:13 |
| hongbin | there are several patches under review | 03:14 |
| hongbin | and there is a patch in kuryr-libnetwork as well, which is also under review | 03:14 |
| hongbin | however, i expect there is no problem to merge those patches | 03:14 |
| mkrai | hongbin: I will help in merging those patches | 03:15 |
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| hongbin | and there is a demo in sydney based on those patches, they should work very well | 03:15 |
| mkrai | Will review it | 03:15 |
| hongbin | mkrai: thx | 03:15 |
| hongbin | that is all from my side | 03:15 |
| hongbin | all, thanks for joining the meeting today | 03:15 |
| hongbin | see you next time | 03:15 |
| hongbin | #endmeeting | 03:15 |
| kevinz | see you | 03:15 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 03:15 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Nov 21 03:15:56 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 03:15 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zun/2017/zun.2017-11-21-03.00.html | 03:15 |
| mkrai | thanks kevinz hongbin | 03:16 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zun/2017/zun.2017-11-21-03.00.txt | 03:16 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zun/2017/zun.2017-11-21-03.00.log.html | 03:16 |
| mkrai | Bye | 03:16 |
| kevinz | bye mkrai hongbin | 03:16 |
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| sagara | Hi | 04:00 |
| tpatil | I will chair today's masakari meeting as Sampath san is busy | 04:00 |
| Dinesh_Bhor | okay | 04:01 |
| tpatil | #startmeeting masakari | 04:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Nov 21 04:01:07 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tpatil. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 04:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 04:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: masakari)" | 04:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'masakari' | 04:01 |
| tpatil | Hi All | 04:01 |
| Dinesh_Bhor | Hi all | 04:01 |
| abhishekk | o/ | 04:01 |
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| tpatil | #link : https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Masakari | 04:01 |
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| sagara | I heard today Sampath cannot join this meeting | 04:02 |
| tpatil | #topic High priority items | 04:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "High priority items (Meeting topic: masakari)" | 04:02 | |
| tpatil | anyone wants to discuss about high priority items | 04:03 |
| tpatil | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/masakari/+bug/1721742 | 04:03 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1721742 in masakari "Masakari will fail to recovery instances on failure host if instance's task_state is not none" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to takahara.kengo (takahara.kengo) | 04:03 |
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| tpatil | Any update about this bug | 04:03 |
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| tpatil | It looks like Honjo san is not available as well | 04:05 |
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| Dinesh_Bhor | there is a patch for this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/515013/ | 04:05 |
| Dinesh_Bhor | but looks like launchpad is not updated accordingly | 04:05 |
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| tpatil | Yes, it's strange | 04:06 |
| abhishekk | looks like bot job which updates the laucnhpad has some problem | 04:07 |
| tpatil | Jenkins jobs are failing, takahara.kengo will need to fix it | 04:07 |
| tpatil | Anyone wants to discuss about any bugs? | 04:07 |
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| tpatil | moving ahead | 04:08 |
| tpatil | #topic Discussion points | 04:09 |
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| tpatil | Horizon plugins | 04:09 |
| tpatil | Niraj has proposed two patches to add masakari-dashboard repo, review is in progress | 04:09 |
| tpatil | # link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/516554/ | 04:10 |
| tpatil | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/516554/ | 04:10 |
| tpatil | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/516550/ | 04:10 |
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| tpatil | ^^ Zulu job is failing, need to fix it | 04:11 |
| Dinesh_Bhor | yes | 04:11 |
| tpatil | next, Install guide document | 04:11 |
| tpatil | Needs review | 04:12 |
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| tpatil | Request core team to review install guide patches | 04:13 |
| tpatil | next, Recovery method customization | 04:13 |
| Dinesh_Bhor | I have updated the spec for this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/458023/ | 04:15 |
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| tpatil | Above specs supports to configure driver per notification type | 04:15 |
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| tpatil | In the current master branch, operator can configure one driver to execute recovery action for all notification types | 04:16 |
| Dinesh_Bhor | I think ill need to point the spec to queens. Before that queens spec directory needs to be created. | 04:17 |
| tpatil | Dinesh_bhor: please do the needful | 04:17 |
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| Dinesh_Bhor | tpatil: yes | 04:18 |
| tpatil | Now, the above specs will allow operator to configure one driver per notification type. mistral driver will be added in this new specs | 04:18 |
| tpatil | Dinesh_Bhor:Thank you | 04:18 |
| tpatil | Please review the specs | 04:19 |
| tpatil | Next, Find hosts without specifying segments | 04:19 |
| tpatil | takahara.kengo has made changes to the specs as suggested by samP | 04:20 |
| tpatil | Let's review the specs and implementation | 04:20 |
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| tpatil | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/find-segment-by-host+(status:open+OR+status:merged) | 04:20 |
| tpatil | Next, Queens Items | 04:22 |
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| tpatil | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/masakari-queens-workitems | 04:22 |
| tpatil | I don't have any new update since last meeting | 04:23 |
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| tpatil | I will skip next item "BM HA (ironic + nova)" as samP is not available today in this meeting | 04:25 |
| tpatil | next, OpenStack Proposal Bot updates | 04:26 |
| tpatil | In the last week, many bot updates patches were merged. Now, only one patch is up for review | 04:26 |
| Dinesh_Bhor | great | 04:27 |
| tpatil | In the next meeting, I will remove this item from the agenda | 04:27 |
| tpatil | moving ahead | 04:27 |
| tpatil | #topic AOB | 04:27 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "AOB (Meeting topic: masakari)" | 04:27 | |
| tpatil | Anyone looked into migrating masakari from launchpad to storyboard? | 04:28 |
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| Dinesh_Bhor | no not yet | 04:28 |
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| sagara_ | Not yet | 04:28 |
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| tpatil | As it's not mandatory to use storyboard, we can skip it to the next release unless someone is interested to do it in this release | 04:30 |
| Dinesh_Bhor | okay | 04:31 |
| tpatil | Anyone wants to bring up any new topic? | 04:31 |
| sagara_ | no | 04:31 |
| Dinesh_Bhor | no | 04:32 |
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| tpatil | #topic: Ansible support for Masakari | 04:32 |
| *** openstack changes topic to ": Ansible support for Masakari (Meeting topic: masakari)" | 04:32 | |
| tpatil | I don't have any update about this item | 04:33 |
| Dinesh_Bhor | last meeting we discussed that we need ansible plugin for this | 04:33 |
| tpatil | Do we need to add VM HA support using masakari in Ansible? | 04:33 |
| tpatil | sorry, I didn't attend last meeting and didn't check the logs before this meeting as well | 04:34 |
| Dinesh_Bhor | I searched about other openstack projects. Magnum has separate project for this: https://github.com/openstack/openstack-ansible-os_magnum | 04:34 |
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| Dinesh_Bhor | From operators point of view, they need a way to install and configure all masakari services using ansible. This above project helps to install magnum using ansible. It works with openstack/ansible project. | 04:36 |
| tpatil | So this new plugin will install masakari and during this process, we will need configure failover segments, hosts etc to support VM HA. Also need to install masakari-monitor on compute nodes | 04:36 |
| Dinesh_Bhor | tpatil: yes | 04:37 |
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| tpatil | Ok, Let's discuss who is interested to work on this item in the next meeting. I think we should target it for the next release though | 04:38 |
| Dinesh_Bhor | okay | 04:38 |
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| tpatil | Still have 20 minutes left | 04:39 |
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| tpatil | If no one has anything left for discussion, let's end this meeting | 04:41 |
| tpatil | Please use openstack-masakari channel should you have any questions | 04:42 |
| tpatil | Thank you, All | 04:42 |
| tpatil | #endmeeting | 04:42 |
| Dinesh_Bhor | Just a reminder. Zuul is passing on this patch now: https://review.openstack.org/515013. It is open for review now. | 04:42 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Nov 21 04:42:30 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 04:42 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/masakari/2017/masakari.2017-11-21-04.01.html | 04:42 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/masakari/2017/masakari.2017-11-21-04.01.txt | 04:42 |
| Dinesh_Bhor | Thank you all | 04:42 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/masakari/2017/masakari.2017-11-21-04.01.log.html | 04:42 |
| tpatil | Thanks, Dinesh for the update | 04:42 |
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| sagara_ | Thank you | 04:43 |
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| chenying_ | #startmeeting karbor | 09:04 |
| chenying_ | #startmeeting karbor | 09:04 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Nov 21 09:04:59 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is chenying_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 09:04 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: karbor)" | 09:05 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'karbor' | 09:05 |
| chenying_ | hi | 09:05 |
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| chenying_ | hi | 09:07 |
| chenying_ | There is no topic today. | 09:07 |
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| chenying_ | #endmeeting | 09:29 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 09:29 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Nov 21 09:29:44 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 09:29 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/karbor/2017/karbor.2017-11-21-09.04.html | 09:29 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/karbor/2017/karbor.2017-11-21-09.04.txt | 09:29 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/karbor/2017/karbor.2017-11-21-09.04.log.html | 09:29 |
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| jlibosva | #startmeeting networking | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Nov 21 14:00:46 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jlibosva. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: networking)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking' | 14:00 |
| jlibosva | hi everyone | 14:00 |
| mlavalle | o/ | 14:00 |
| annp | hi | 14:00 |
| hichihara | hi | 14:00 |
| jlibosva | #topic Announcements | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: networking)" | 14:01 | |
| bcafarel | o/ | 14:01 |
| jlibosva | We're migrating the tempest tests to separate neutron-tempest-plugin repo | 14:01 |
| jlibosva | so please if you want to send patches to either scenarios or api tests, it will need to go to neutron-tempest-plugin repo | 14:01 |
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| jlibosva | there are still patches in flight regarding zuul but they should be solved soon | 14:02 |
| jlibosva | next one: we're slowly approaching Q2, Dec 7 should be the deadline | 14:02 |
| mlavalle | jlibosva: how about a patch like this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/519198/ | 14:03 |
| jlibosva | that's all from me, does anybody have anything to announce? | 14:03 |
| mlavalle | ? | 14:03 |
| jlibosva | mlavalle: looking | 14:03 |
| mlavalle | that patch still goes in Neuron, right? | 14:03 |
| mlavalle | Neutron^^^^ | 14:03 |
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| jlibosva | mlavalle: right, it has corresponding patch in tempest-plugin repo: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/520233 | 14:04 |
| mlavalle | ++ | 14:04 |
| amotoki | in my understanding, job defintions should go to the neutron repo | 14:04 |
| jlibosva | amotoki: the job definition uses tempest-plugin tho | 14:05 |
| amotoki | sorry, job consumption should go to the neutron | 14:05 |
| amotoki | jlibosva: yes, you are right | 14:05 |
| jlibosva | ack :) | 14:05 |
| mlavalle | amotoki: still useful to clarify, thanks | 14:05 |
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| jlibosva | anything else to announce? | 14:05 |
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| jlibosva | let's move on then | 14:06 |
| jlibosva | #topic Blueprints | 14:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Blueprints (Meeting topic: networking)" | 14:06 | |
| jlibosva | #link https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/queens-2 | 14:06 |
| jlibosva | that reminds me I should spend more time reviewing firewall logging patches ... | 14:07 |
| jlibosva | anybody has anything related to blueprints? any blockers? | 14:07 |
| annp | yeah, thanks in advance jakub | 14:07 |
| mlavalle | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/floating-ip-rate-limit is making excellent progress | 14:08 |
| mlavalle | the TC lib patch was merged last week | 14:08 |
| mlavalle | Server side needs one more +2: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/424466/ | 14:08 |
| mlavalle | hhopefully haleyb can take a look | 14:09 |
| annp | jlibosva: I'd like to speed up on firewall logging patch's because 7 DEC is deadline for Q2. | 14:09 |
| hichihara | mlavalle: I checked the patch today and then I'll test it works fine in my env. | 14:09 |
| jlibosva | annp: yes, I'm aware :) | 14:09 |
| mlavalle | hichihara: thanks:-) | 14:09 |
| annp | jakub, thanks :) | 14:09 |
| haleyb | mlavalle: sorry, was late, workstation with my irc proxy lost power and i'm not near it | 14:10 |
| mlavalle | haleyb: np, thanks | 14:10 |
| mlavalle | hichihara: keep in mind the agent side is not ready yet | 14:11 |
| hichihara | mlavalle: yeah. I'll try to check API side only. | 14:11 |
| jlibosva | ok, any other BP worth discussion? | 14:12 |
| amotoki | mlavalle: hichihara: about qos-fip patch? | 14:12 |
| hichihara | amotoki: Right | 14:12 |
| mlavalle | yeap | 14:12 |
| amotoki | hichihara: thanks. two blueprints were being discussed :) | 14:12 |
| * mlavalle created the confusion :-( | 14:13 | |
| jlibosva | I thought the qos-fip patch is realated to the fip rate limit :) | 14:14 |
| jlibosva | seems like we can move on now? | 14:15 |
| mlavalle | I think so | 14:15 |
| jlibosva | #topic Starter Approved RFEs | 14:15 |
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| jlibosva | I see three RFEs at the wikipage | 14:15 |
| mlavalle | yeap | 14:15 |
| mlavalle | available for new contributors to take them over | 14:16 |
| jlibosva | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1653932 | 14:16 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1653932 in neutron "[rfe] network router:external field not exported" [Wishlist,Triaged] | 14:16 |
| jlibosva | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1689830 | 14:16 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1689830 in neutron "[RFE] Add attribute to the a port that lists the UUIDs of other ports that the port is allowed to impersonate" [Wishlist,Triaged] - Assigned to Dongcan Ye (hellochosen) | 14:16 |
| jlibosva | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1690438 | 14:16 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1690438 in neutron "[RFE] make get-me-a-network work with any network topology" [Wishlist,Triaged] - Assigned to Benjamin Kennel (bkennel) | 14:16 |
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| mlavalle | apparently the third one was claimed over the past few days | 14:16 |
| jlibosva | mlavalle: two are assigned, does it mean we do have contributors for those? | 14:17 |
| mlavalle | yeah, it looks like it | 14:17 |
| mlavalle | Nice! | 14:17 |
| jlibosva | nice :) | 14:17 |
| mlavalle | This is what this is for :-) | 14:18 |
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| jlibosva | anything else related to those RFEs? any volunteers for the first one? ;) | 14:18 |
| jlibosva | I guess we can jump to bugs then | 14:19 |
| jlibosva | #topic Bugs | 14:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: networking)" | 14:19 | |
| mlavalle | yeap | 14:19 |
| jlibosva | the bug deputy for the last week was bzhao | 14:19 |
| mlavalle | no, I think it was haleyb | 14:20 |
| * haleyb thought it was me as well | 14:20 | |
| jlibosva | ah, sorry :) | 14:20 |
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| mlavalle | yeah, bzhao is this week | 14:20 |
| jlibosva | right | 14:20 |
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| haleyb | There was one critical that came in, possible DoS | 14:21 |
| haleyb | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1732294 | 14:21 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1732294 in neutron "Probable DOS in linuxbridge" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to Brian Haley (brian-haley) | 14:21 |
| haleyb | i proposed a patch but submitter wasn't able to verify it | 14:21 |
| haleyb | https://review.openstack.org/520249 | 14:21 |
| haleyb | needs some update testing since both old and new rules would be installed on a restart | 14:22 |
| haleyb | this one slipped through the cracks, https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1732067 | 14:23 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1732067 in neutron "openvswitch firewall flows cause flooding on integration bridge" [Undecided,New] | 14:23 |
| haleyb | came in between deputies | 14:23 |
| jlibosva | I actually consulted that with James | 14:23 |
| jlibosva | on irc | 14:24 |
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| haleyb | perfect | 14:24 |
| jlibosva | I didn't add a proper tag though, thanks for bringing this up :) | 14:24 |
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| mlavalle | jlibosva: how important should it be? | 14:25 |
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| jlibosva | mlavalle: I'm not really sure I understand clearly the issue. It's that replies don't know where to go because on incoming traffic we bypass normal switching, so the replies are sent to all interfaces on given local network | 14:26 |
| jlibosva | mlavalle: I don't think it's severe | 14:26 |
| jlibosva | but maybe rackspace folks think it is :) | 14:26 |
| jlibosva | also I don't know how to fix it as the output action is much faster then normal action in openflow | 14:27 |
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| mlavalle | :-) | 14:27 |
| haleyb | there were some other dhcp-related bugs, all medium, and a lot of api-ref bugs by boden :) | 14:28 |
| haleyb | this was the only other high, https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1732543 | 14:28 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1732543 in neutron "HA network tenant network fails upon router delete" [High,Confirmed] | 14:28 |
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| haleyb | a fix was proposed, but breaks something else, on my L3 radar now | 14:28 |
| jlibosva | should we assign it to Steven then? | 14:29 |
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| haleyb | i asked him to send it out for review, but he didn't know the workflow we have, havne't seen a response after that yet | 14:31 |
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| jlibosva | I see but he seems to be one working on it, so it makes sense to me to have an assignee | 14:31 |
| jlibosva | we can remove it if he goes silent | 14:31 |
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| haleyb | sure, i'll assign it to him | 14:31 |
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| mlavalle | ++ | 14:32 |
| jlibosva | I did :) | 14:32 |
| jlibosva | haleyb: thanks for the report | 14:32 |
| jlibosva | I think we can move to docs now | 14:32 |
| haleyb | yup | 14:32 |
| jlibosva | #topic Docs | 14:32 |
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| jlibosva | boden: hi :) | 14:32 |
| boden | hi | 14:32 |
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| jlibosva | do you want to give any updates? | 14:33 |
| boden | the only think I wanted to mention (already hinted by haleyb) is that I went through all neutron extensions and determined those that needed updates in the api-ref | 14:33 |
| boden | I created a bug for each that needs work in case someone else wants to help out | 14:33 |
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| boden | they all have the ‘api-ref’ tag.. https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?field.tag=api-ref | 14:34 |
| mlavalle | ok, so you need volunteers | 14:34 |
| boden | no its fine.. I can process them over the next few weeks | 14:34 |
| boden | just saying if someone gets bored feel free to join the party if you want | 14:34 |
| mlavalle | cool | 14:34 |
| boden | that’s all I really have | 14:34 |
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| jlibosva | boden: thanks | 14:35 |
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| jlibosva | boden: don't go far | 14:35 |
| jlibosva | #topic neutron-lib | 14:35 |
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| boden | hi again | 14:35 |
| jlibosva | hi! :) | 14:36 |
| boden | so a high-level thing | 14:36 |
| boden | based on recent ML discussion it appears we will start publishing server projects to pypi.. including neutron | 14:36 |
| boden | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-November/124676.html | 14:36 |
| boden | one of the main motivations for neutron-lib was to provide something that could be released to pypi and versioned; since neutron couldn't | 14:37 |
| jlibosva | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-November/124676.html | 14:37 |
| boden | so my question becomes; do we need to rethink what we want to do with neutron-lib, or just keep moving forward | 14:37 |
| boden | there are still some benefits to neutron-lib… consolodate concrete interfaces, reduce dependencies (neutron pulls along a number), etc.. | 14:38 |
| boden | anybody have thoughts on this topic? | 14:38 |
| jlibosva | wasn't the motivation also that other projects don't need to fetch the whole neutron code base with specific implementation ? | 14:38 |
| mlavalle | I don't know what to say right now. I will take a look at the thread and discuss in the channel | 14:38 |
| jlibosva | ah, you just wrote it in the meantime | 14:39 |
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| boden | is armax around? | 14:39 |
| mlavalle | for the time being, I say let's carry on | 14:39 |
| boden | doesnt look like it | 14:39 |
| boden | ok | 14:39 |
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| jlibosva | boden: anything else for the lib? | 14:40 |
| boden | thats all I have | 14:40 |
| jlibosva | ok, thanks | 14:40 |
| jlibosva | #topic Migration to OSC | 14:40 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Migration to OSC (Meeting topic: networking)" | 14:40 | |
| jlibosva | amotoki: do you want to give updates? | 14:40 |
| amotoki | hi | 14:40 |
| amotoki | there are several things | 14:40 |
| amotoki | there are several pending patches in neutronclient repo. reviews would be appreciated | 14:41 |
| amotoki | it looks better to cut a release at some point. | 14:41 |
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| amotoki | the second thing is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/518954/ . haleyb proposed a patch to change the default protocol of a new sg rule. | 14:42 |
| amotoki | I would like to ask opinions for others. | 14:43 |
| haleyb | yes, i had forgotten about thatone | 14:43 |
| amotoki | there is a discussion on backward-compat on OSC vs on neutron CLI. | 14:43 |
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| haleyb | there was a change merged to OSC that defaulted the protocol to 'tcp' and it was noticed as not the same as the neutron client | 14:44 |
| haleyb | i was annoyed because noone from neutron was even asked to review it | 14:44 |
| amotoki | yes, the default value comes from nova sg rule implementation and OSC supports both | 14:44 |
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| amotoki | I will leave a comment after the meeting | 14:45 |
| mlavalle | so, provide feedback in the review | 14:45 |
| mlavalle | ? | 14:45 |
| haleyb | it is *almost* backwards-compatible in that if you specify a port range you must specify a protocol | 14:45 |
| haleyb | dean has said he would allow it in OSC4 only | 14:46 |
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| amotoki | that is good point | 14:46 |
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| amotoki | anyway feel free to leave comments/bugs if you feel odd around the migration to OSC | 14:47 |
| amotoki | the last thing is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1705755 raised by boden | 14:48 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1705755 in neutron "[RFE] Plugin support for API resource attribute extensions" [Wishlist,Triaged] | 14:48 |
| amotoki | i wouldn't like to discuss the detail here. feedback would be appreciated. | 14:48 |
| amotoki | it is one of big gaps around the migration | 14:48 |
| amotoki | that's all from me | 14:49 |
| mlavalle | amotoki: it was discussed in the drivers meeting last Thursday | 14:49 |
| mlavalle | please chack the logs | 14:49 |
| mlavalle | check | 14:49 |
| amotoki | mlavalle: thanks. i haven't checked the log | 14:49 |
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| amotoki | will check it soon | 14:49 |
| mlavalle | I will update the RFE itself today | 14:49 |
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| amotoki | i think we can move on to the next topic if nothing else | 14:50 |
| jlibosva | amotoki: thanks | 14:50 |
| jlibosva | #topic open discussion | 14:50 |
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| jlibosva | does anybody have a topic he'd like to discuss here? | 14:51 |
| haleyb | one question | 14:51 |
| jlibosva | haleyb: go ahead | 14:51 |
| jlibosva | I see two topics at the wiki | 14:51 |
| haleyb | ok, mine isn't on the wiki | 14:51 |
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| jlibosva | haleyb: so go ahead, we can discuss those after :) | 14:52 |
| haleyb | amotoki: i know you cover the osc client, but how do we make sure neutronions are always added to network reviews? | 14:52 |
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| haleyb | relying on people seeing the review emails isn't enough | 14:53 |
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| amotoki | haleyb: honestly i am not sure what is a better way. | 14:53 |
| haleyb | ok, i was even looking through the repo looking for a doc but didn't see anything | 14:54 |
| amotoki | i think there is a way to query which file(s) are included in a review. | 14:54 |
| amotoki | it might help us | 14:54 |
| haleyb | yes, i'd be ok with receiving emails if they are networking ones | 14:55 |
| amotoki | previously i checked networking guide reviews in openstakc-manuals by using "path:^doc/networking-guide/.*' in my gerrit dashboard | 14:55 |
| haleyb | ok, thanks, i'll try the same with osc | 14:55 |
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| haleyb | jlibosva: back to you | 14:55 |
| jlibosva | let's jump to those topics from wiki then | 14:56 |
| hoangcx_ | Hi jlibosva, VPNaaS team is working on stadium inclusion, almost required criteria have been addressed/addressing. It needs to get attention from core reviewers in order to help it jump into the stadium in Queens. | 14:56 |
| jlibosva | hoangcx_: hi, you have one VPNaaS stadium inclusion request: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/506012/ | 14:56 |
| jlibosva | mlavalle: ^^ I think it will need PTL's blessing :) | 14:56 |
| mlavalle | yeap, I will look at it this week | 14:57 |
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| hoangcx_ | jlibosva: I discussed with yamamoto and got suggestion to raise it here. Hopefully can get comments/decision from cores :) | 14:57 |
| jlibosva | hoangcx_: yes, thanks for bringing this up :) | 14:57 |
| mlavalle | hoangcx_: I will look at it this week | 14:57 |
| hoangcx_ | thanks a lot mlavalle jlibosva :) | 14:57 |
| jlibosva | bcafarel: next one is yours: "Should we use a single repo for all stadium split tempest plugins? http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-October/123814.html" | 14:57 |
| bcafarel | indeed | 14:58 |
| jlibosva | I don't know answer to that question | 14:58 |
| bcafarel | the topic should be short :) I'd just welcome some feedback (and decision) on the topic | 14:58 |
| mlavalle | bcafarel: do you see any downsides to having one repo for tempest tests? | 14:58 |
| jlibosva | it would make sense to me to have test repo per project but that would create loots of new projects :) | 14:59 |
| bcafarel | mlavalle: no downside apart from the creation job | 14:59 |
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| bcafarel | but as some other parts are in common repos, armax brought the question | 15:00 |
| mlavalle | I think we are short of people now in general so creating a lot of new projects will be difficult | 15:00 |
| amotoki | we have tempest API test and we have a single place neutron-lib to have API defintions. it makes sense to have a single repo in this context | 15:00 |
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| amotoki | but this is only one aspect | 15:00 |
| jlibosva | maybe we could discuss this on ML | 15:00 |
| jlibosva | we're out of time | 15:00 |
| amotoki | +1 | 15:00 |
| bcafarel | oops indeed | 15:00 |
| jlibosva | thanks bcafarel | 15:00 |
| jlibosva | and thanks everyone for showing up | 15:00 |
| amotoki | I completely missed that mail | 15:00 |
| jlibosva | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Nov 21 15:00:54 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2017/networking.2017-11-21-14.00.html | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2017/networking.2017-11-21-14.00.txt | 15:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2017/networking.2017-11-21-14.00.log.html | 15:00 |
| annp | thank you! see you guys | 15:01 |
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| ihrachys | #startmeeting neutron_ci | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Nov 21 16:00:15 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ihrachys. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_ci' | 16:00 |
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| mlavalle | o/ | 16:00 |
| jlibosva | o/ | 16:00 |
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| ihrachys | hi folks. giving 2 mins for others to join. | 16:01 |
| frickler | o/ | 16:01 |
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| haleyb | hi | 16:01 |
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| ihrachys | #topic Actions from prev meeting | 16:02 |
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| ihrachys | "ihrachys to pull oslo folks into reviewing rootwrap patch" | 16:03 |
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| ihrachys | the patch for oslo.rootwrap was merged | 16:03 |
| ihrachys | https://review.openstack.org/514547 | 16:03 |
| ihrachys | and new oslo.rootwrap released | 16:03 |
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| ihrachys | also upper-constraints updated | 16:03 |
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| ihrachys | so at this point, gate (master) should have the fix | 16:03 |
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| ihrachys | if you still see this particular failure (either eventlet error in an agent, or commands receiving output of previous commands), please speak up | 16:04 |
| jlibosva | oh, I saw this morning fullstack failure rate about 70%, so maybe that was it :) | 16:04 |
| ihrachys | I have backports for the fix for stable: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/Id9d38832c67f2d81d382cda797a48fee943a27f1 | 16:04 |
| ihrachys | but I wanted to give it some time to prove itself | 16:04 |
| ihrachys | jlibosva, yeah it went down somewhat | 16:04 |
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| ihrachys | at 65% right now | 16:05 |
| slaweq | hello, sorry for late | 16:05 |
| ihrachys | slaweq, hey! | 16:05 |
| mlavalle | slaweq: you in Paris? | 16:05 |
| slaweq | yes | 16:05 |
| ihrachys | slaweq, fyi the rootwrap issue should be fixed in master. if you see it, then the patch didn't help. | 16:06 |
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| slaweq | ok, thx for info | 16:06 |
| ihrachys | next is "mlavalle to track down "TypeError: None is not str() or unicode()!" error in dhcp agent fullstack tests" | 16:06 |
| ihrachys | I believe l3 team was going to look into it | 16:06 |
| mlavalle | haleyb proposed this fix https://review.openstack.org/#/c/520710/ | 16:06 |
| mlavalle | haleyb: is this the right patch? | 16:07 |
| mlavalle | yes it is | 16:07 |
| ihrachys | didn't know haleyb is mlavalle's sockpuppet account | 16:08 |
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| ihrachys | sorry, couldn't resist | 16:08 |
| ihrachys | so it's WIP, is it because you can't reproduce with new oslo? | 16:08 |
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| haleyb | sorry, someone rang bell and dog went crazy | 16:10 |
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| haleyb | ihrachys: right, i don't see it in the logs, but haven't looked in logstash | 16:10 |
| ihrachys | haleyb, note stable branches are still affected so you will need to filter them out | 16:11 |
| ihrachys | oh actually no, maybe posting the patch to stable will reveal it easier | 16:11 |
| ihrachys | because it still doesn't have the packages | 16:11 |
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| haleyb | ok, i can do that while i'm searching logstash | 16:13 |
| ihrachys | ok those were all actions we had | 16:13 |
| ihrachys | #topic Grafana | 16:13 |
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| ihrachys | http://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/neutron-failure-rate | 16:13 |
| ihrachys | before we dive into data... why is it that gate coverage dashboard is empty? | 16:13 |
| ihrachys | http://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/neutron-failure-rate?panelId=6&fullscreen | 16:13 |
| ihrachys | probably a name change? | 16:13 |
| ihrachys | for the job | 16:13 |
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| haleyb | ihrachys: that can happen if it's never failed | 16:14 |
| ihrachys | hm ok I see | 16:15 |
| ihrachys | yeah the name in project-config seems to be correct | 16:16 |
| haleyb | the unit tests in the gate had that "No datapoints" until something in infra blew up | 16:16 |
| ihrachys | ok. speaking of data... | 16:16 |
| ihrachys | as we already mentioned, fullstack went somewhat down, now at 65% | 16:17 |
| ihrachys | still a long way to go but it's the right direction | 16:17 |
| ihrachys | we sat at 100% for a while | 16:17 |
| ihrachys | scenarios are back at 100%, both flavors | 16:18 |
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| ihrachys | dvr-ha is at steady 30% and I suspect we don't make progress to make it voting | 16:18 |
| jlibosva | regarding scenarios - I checked this morning and only consistently failing tests are now east-west fip tests | 16:19 |
| jlibosva | I was tempted to use unstable_test decorator to see the stability of others :) | 16:19 |
| haleyb | we have not made any progress on that bug ^^ yet, will have to look at re-assigning | 16:20 |
| ihrachys | is it https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1717302 ? | 16:20 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1717302 in neutron "Tempest floatingip scenario tests failing on DVR Multinode setup with HA" [High,Confirmed] | 16:20 |
| jlibosva | yes | 16:20 |
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| ihrachys | does it affect both flavors though? this one seems dvr/ha specific | 16:20 |
| jlibosva | I checked multinode-dvr only | 16:21 |
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| jlibosva | or you mean we have non-ha routers there? | 16:21 |
| ihrachys | yeah. I picked a random linuxbridge run but it failed with timeout: http://logs.openstack.org/04/492404/19/check/legacy-tempest-dsvm-neutron-scenario-linuxbridge/0decc9a/job-output.txt.gz#_2017-11-21_04_36_12_038942 | 16:21 |
| ihrachys | so no per test logs | 16:21 |
| ihrachys | ok here is a better run: http://logs.openstack.org/83/521683/3/check/legacy-tempest-dsvm-neutron-scenario-linuxbridge/46e952f/logs/testr_results.html.gz | 16:22 |
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| ihrachys | ah right, linuxbridge is affected by https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1719711 | 16:23 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1719711 in neutron "iptables failed to apply when binding a port with AGENT.debug_iptables_rules enabled" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Brian Haley (brian-haley) | 16:23 |
| ihrachys | haleyb, no luck with that one? | 16:23 |
| haleyb | ihrachys: no, i have had other priorities, if anyone wants to pick up i can help once we can reproduce it better | 16:24 |
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| ihrachys | haleyb, it reproduces in gate just fine. do you mean you couldn't reproduce locally? | 16:25 |
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| haleyb | ihrachys: right, i only saw it locally once | 16:25 |
| ihrachys | I see. maybe if you don't have time for it, unassign yourself so that others are aware it's free | 16:26 |
| ihrachys | as for floating ip bug, is it still in scope for l3 subteam to figure out the fix? | 16:27 |
| ihrachys | or we need someone else too | 16:27 |
| mlavalle | it is still in scope | 16:27 |
| ihrachys | ok thanks | 16:28 |
| ihrachys | let's have a look at fullstack now | 16:29 |
| ihrachys | #topic Fullstack | 16:29 |
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| ihrachys | example failure: http://logs.openstack.org/71/520371/7/check/legacy-neutron-dsvm-fullstack/ad585a2/logs/testr_results.html.gz | 16:29 |
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| ihrachys | so connectivity failures seem to be because port hasn't transitioned to ACTIVE | 16:31 |
| ihrachys | I checked agent logs here: http://logs.openstack.org/71/520371/7/check/legacy-neutron-dsvm-fullstack/ad585a2/logs/dsvm-fullstack-logs/TestOvsConnectivitySameNetwork.test_connectivity_VXLAN,openflow-native_/ and I don't see any clear errors/traces though | 16:31 |
| ihrachys | also not in neutron-server | 16:31 |
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| jlibosva | I also wonder why the test_connectivity test wasn't skipped | 16:32 |
| ihrachys | why should it? | 16:32 |
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| ihrachys | have we merged the decorator alredy? | 16:32 |
| jlibosva | we haven't? | 16:32 |
| jlibosva | wait :) | 16:32 |
| mlavalle | I think we did | 16:32 |
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| ihrachys | yeah we did https://review.openstack.org/514660 | 16:33 |
| jlibosva | I need to investigate whether the decorator works with scenarios then | 16:33 |
| ihrachys | #action jlibosva to figure out why unstable_test didn't work for fullstack scenario case | 16:34 |
| ihrachys | another possibility is it just doesn't work :) | 16:34 |
| ihrachys | we don't have a test for it | 16:34 |
| ihrachys | we should have some fake test that raises an Exception | 16:34 |
| ihrachys | with the decorator applied | 16:35 |
| ihrachys | that would prove it works | 16:35 |
| ihrachys | and we can then do same for scenarios | 16:35 |
| slaweq | but I'm pretty sure I saw it was working | 16:35 |
| slaweq | http://logs.openstack.org/60/514660/4/check/legacy-neutron-dsvm-fullstack/587b7ff/job-output.txt.gz#_2017-11-14_17_25_56_281752 | 16:36 |
| slaweq | e.g. here | 16:36 |
| ihrachys | hm | 16:37 |
| ihrachys | could it be that the output is included nevertheless | 16:37 |
| ihrachys | no it lists all 3 as failed: http://logs.openstack.org/71/520371/7/check/legacy-neutron-dsvm-fullstack/ad585a2/job-output.txt.gz#_2017-11-20_22_26_56_096106 | 16:37 |
| jlibosva | no, this one http://logs.openstack.org/71/520371/7/check/legacy-neutron-dsvm-fullstack/ad585a2/logs/testr_results.html.gz lists 2 as skipped | 16:38 |
| jlibosva | just one is failed ... | 16:38 |
| frickler | does the decorator not work if the failure is in the class setup instead of the test itself? | 16:38 |
| slaweq | in example which I gave it's marked as skipped: http://logs.openstack.org/60/514660/4/check/legacy-neutron-dsvm-fullstack/587b7ff/logs/testr_results.html.gz | 16:38 |
| jlibosva | frickler: yes, in class setup it won't work | 16:38 |
| jlibosva | yeah :) | 16:38 |
| jlibosva | frickler++ | 16:38 |
| jlibosva | it didn't even build the env | 16:39 |
| ihrachys | huh ok good :) | 16:39 |
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| ihrachys | jlibosva, btw we banned the test case because of https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1728948 but seems like what we see is not related to this bug | 16:40 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1728948 in neutron "fullstack: test_connectivity fails due to dhclient crash" [High,New] - Assigned to Jakub Libosvar (libosvar) | 16:40 |
| ihrachys | jlibosva, what's the plan? make it work for classes somehow? | 16:40 |
| jlibosva | ihrachys: no, I don't think the decorator should work for classes. If env is not build, is very severe and I don't think we should skip | 16:41 |
| ihrachys | ok. we need to report a bug for the failure. anyone dare? | 16:42 |
| jlibosva | I can invsetigate | 16:42 |
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| ihrachys | at least I don't see it in gate-failure list, maybe it's somewhere | 16:42 |
| ihrachys | jlibosva, thanks! | 16:42 |
| ihrachys | #action jlibosva to investigate / report a bug for env deployment failure in fullstack because of port down | 16:43 |
| ihrachys | the other failure in the logs, test_controller_timeout_does_not_break_connectivity_sigkill, is not in setUp though | 16:43 |
| ihrachys | failed in block_until_boot | 16:44 |
| jlibosva | could be the dhclient crash? | 16:44 |
| jlibosva | ah, no. it's a port status to become active | 16:45 |
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| ihrachys | yeah. I think we had a bug reported for the test case failure before | 16:46 |
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| ihrachys | this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1673531 | 16:46 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1673531 in neutron "fullstack test_controller_timeout_does_not_break_connectivity_sigkill(GRE and l2pop,openflow-native_ovsdb-cli) failure" [Undecided,Fix released] | 16:46 |
| ihrachys | I should reopen it | 16:46 |
| ihrachys | #action ihrachys to investigate latest https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1673531 failures | 16:47 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1673531 in neutron "fullstack test_controller_timeout_does_not_break_connectivity_sigkill(GRE and l2pop,openflow-native_ovsdb-cli) failure" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Ihar Hrachyshka (ihar-hrachyshka) | 16:47 |
| ihrachys | and finally, we have test_dscp_marking_packets(openflow-native) failing there | 16:48 |
| ihrachys | with: neutron.tests.common.agents.l2_extensions.TcpdumpException: No packets marked with DSCP = 16 received from 10.0.0.8 to 10.0.0.11 | 16:48 |
| ihrachys | I would need to look into what the test case does but | 16:49 |
| ihrachys | only ovs agents are running there, and neutron-server has this: | 16:50 |
| ihrachys | http://logs.openstack.org/71/520371/7/check/legacy-neutron-dsvm-fullstack/ad585a2/logs/dsvm-fullstack-logs/TestDscpMarkingQoSOvs.test_dscp_marking_packets_openflow-native_/neutron-server--2017-11-20--22-12-38-673206.txt.gz?level=TRACE | 16:50 |
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| slaweq | I can try to look at this one it You want | 16:50 |
| ihrachys | by the looks of it, it's as expected that no l3 / dhcp is there | 16:51 |
| ihrachys | slaweq, yes please. I think we should start with reporting a bug so that we can capture details there. | 16:51 |
| slaweq | ok, I will report bug for it | 16:51 |
| jlibosva | could it be that it got notification from ovsdb monitor? :) | 16:51 |
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| ihrachys | #action slaweq to investigate / report a bug for test_dscp_marking_packets fullstack failure | 16:51 |
| ihrachys | jlibosva, what do you mean | 16:52 |
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| jlibosva | ihrachys: nothing, brain fart. ignore me | 16:52 |
| jlibosva | it's server log | 16:52 |
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| ihrachys | slaweq, irrespective of what actually fails, I think it may also make sense to look if we can suppress those warnings. not having l3 / dhcp is, in theory, a reasonable setup (well, maybe not for dhcp because enable_dhcp is not implemented with a service plugin, but surely you can have a setup without router service plugin) | 16:53 |
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| ihrachys | #topic Tempest plugin | 16:54 |
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| slaweq | ok | 16:54 |
| ihrachys | as you know, we transition to a new repo for tempest tests | 16:54 |
| ihrachys | etherpad tracking patches: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-tempest-plugin-job-move | 16:55 |
| ihrachys | tl;dr we remove jobs from neutron, move them to new repo, inherit them from neutron repo | 16:55 |
| ihrachys | I still haven't heard about what we do for stable branches | 16:55 |
| ihrachys | there are some patches attempting removal of legacy jobs | 16:56 |
| ihrachys | but they are still to be used for stable | 16:56 |
| ihrachys | if you have answer please speak up | 16:56 |
| mlavalle | I did some research on that | 16:56 |
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| mlavalle | Please look at https://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/zuulv3.html#stable-branches | 16:56 |
| mlavalle | The summary is that each stable branch has to have its own .zuul.yaml and playbooks | 16:57 |
| ihrachys | ok. so we need to move legacy jobs into stable | 16:57 |
| ihrachys | before removing them in infra rpeos | 16:57 |
| ihrachys | *repos | 16:57 |
| mlavalle | correct | 16:57 |
| mlavalle | I also had a conversation with the infra team and they confirmed | 16:57 |
| ihrachys | can we in the meantime filter legacy out for master as we did with zuulv2? | 16:58 |
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| mlavalle | http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-infra/%23openstack-infra.2017-11-21.log.html#t2017-11-21T15:29:19 | 16:58 |
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| mlavalle | I think we can do that | 16:58 |
| ihrachys | ok | 16:58 |
| ihrachys | final thing I'd like to mention is that apparently there was a breakage in new tempest repo by one of new scenarios | 16:59 |
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| ihrachys | because create_server changed its signature somewhat | 16:59 |
| ihrachys | so the fix is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/521919/ please review | 16:59 |
| ihrachys | assuming it helps. if not, we have a revert here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/521898/ | 16:59 |
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| ihrachys | though I think we can live without a revert for some time because it's not voting anywhere. | 16:59 |
| ihrachys | (we don't even have those jobs anywhere right now because we cleaned them up in neutron repo already) | 17:00 |
| ihrachys | anyway, we are out of time | 17:00 |
| ihrachys | thanks everyone | 17:00 |
| ihrachys | #endmeeting | 17:00 |
| jlibosva | we must get some patches to run scenario tests on plugin repo first | 17:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Nov 21 17:00:20 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:00 |
| slaweq | thx | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ci/2017/neutron_ci.2017-11-21-16.00.html | 17:00 |
| jlibosva | thx, bye | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ci/2017/neutron_ci.2017-11-21-16.00.txt | 17:00 |
| ihrachys | jlibosva, ++ | 17:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ci/2017/neutron_ci.2017-11-21-16.00.log.html | 17:00 |
| slaweq | FYI: I just reported bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1733649 | 17:00 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1733649 in neutron "fullstack neutron.tests.fullstack.test_qos.TestDscpMarkingQoSOvs.test_dscp_marking_packets(openflow-native) failure" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq) | 17:00 |
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| lbragstad | #startmeeting keystone | 18:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Nov 21 18:00:02 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is lbragstad. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:00 |
| lbragstad | ping ayoung, breton, cmurphy, dstanek, edmondsw, gagehugo, henrynash, hrybacki, knikolla, lamt, lbragstad, lwanderley, kmalloc, rderose, rodrigods, samueldmq, spilla, aselius, dpar | 18:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 18:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'keystone' | 18:00 |
| lbragstad | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-weekly-meeting | 18:00 |
| lbragstad | agenda ^ | 18:00 |
| lbragstad | o/ | 18:00 |
| hrybacki | o/ | 18:00 |
| lamt | o/ | 18:00 |
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| lbragstad | i dropped the ball on the meeting last week - sorry about that | 18:00 |
| lbragstad | we don't have a whole lot on the schedule today - so we'll give it a few minutes for folks to trickle in | 18:01 |
| lamt | DST was rough esp after travel from the summit | 18:01 |
| lbragstad | ++ | 18:01 |
| lbragstad | yeah - between travel, jet lag, dst, and parsing missed work, i'm not sure when i really recovered | 18:02 |
| hrybacki | have you fully recovered? ;) | 18:03 |
| lbragstad | lol that's the real question | 18:03 |
| hrybacki | RH Tower has been awfully quiet this and last week as well | 18:03 |
| lbragstad | yeah - i've noticed that, too | 18:03 |
| lbragstad | which wasn't terrible because it was a nice opportunity to catch up on this and provide recaps | 18:03 |
| lbragstad | #topic specification reviews | 18:04 |
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| lbragstad | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-November/124727.html | 18:04 |
| lbragstad | i took a look at our roadmap and what we have let to merge for specs that we've committed to | 18:04 |
| lbragstad | there are a couple outstanding ones that we need to get updated and reviewed within the next couple weeks | 18:04 |
| lbragstad | any extra eyes on those would be awesome | 18:05 |
| lbragstad | i said this in the email, too.. but if anyone is looking to tag-team something, feel free to speak up | 18:05 |
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| lbragstad | #topic summit recaps | 18:05 |
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| lbragstad | cmurphy: just published #link http://www.gazlene.net/sydney-summit.html | 18:06 |
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| hrybacki | have not read her recap yet | 18:06 |
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| lbragstad | and i have my take #link https://www.lbragstad.com/blog/openstack-summit-sydney-recap | 18:06 |
| lbragstad | has anyone else published a keystone recap of any kind? | 18:06 |
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| lbragstad | if someone has, let me know and i'll advertise it accordingly | 18:07 |
| knikolla | o/ (sorry for being late) | 18:07 |
| lbragstad | does anyone have comments or questions on the recaps? | 18:07 |
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| hrybacki | not atm | 18:08 |
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| lbragstad | cool - well if you notice anything inconsistent in mine, ping me | 18:08 |
| lbragstad | #topic office hours schedule | 18:08 |
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| lbragstad | when i set this up - i don't think i actually set it for dst | 18:08 |
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| lbragstad | i'm curious if folks want to move office hours to be right after the meeting or leave it where it is (meaning we have an hour between the keystone meeting and the start of office hours) | 18:09 |
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| lbragstad | thoughts? | 18:09 |
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| KwozyMan | lbragstad: For us (Central Europe), it would be better to have it one hour earlier. | 18:10 |
| hrybacki | Do we have normal meetings follow US DST in OpenStack? | 18:10 |
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| lbragstad | KwozyMan: as in moving office hours to be right after the keystone meeting, regardless of dst? | 18:10 |
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| kmalloc | lbragstad: i thought that was already the case | 18:11 |
| kmalloc | heh | 18:11 |
| lbragstad | to my knowledge, openstack meetings are held in UTC, so they are subject to DST changes | 18:11 |
| kmalloc | why are office ours not in UTC then? | 18:11 |
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| kmalloc | and yes, meetings are in UTC | 18:11 |
| lbragstad | kmalloc: it was supposed to be (but i don't think i scheduled it that way) | 18:11 |
| KwozyMan | lbragstad: just telling you how it would be best here | 18:11 |
| lbragstad | KwozyMan: ack - that makes sense, i suppose it keeps things late for you | 18:12 |
| lbragstad | if you're in central europe | 18:12 |
| josecastroleon | me too | 18:12 |
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| lbragstad | ok - cool | 18:12 |
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| lbragstad | is anyone actually in favor of an hour gap between the team meeting and office hours? | 18:12 |
| lbragstad | #action keep office hours immediately after the keystone meeting - subject to DST changes | 18:14 |
| lbragstad | #topic open discussion | 18:14 |
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| lbragstad | alrighty - floor is open | 18:14 |
| hrybacki | lbragstad: if there existed a set of policy files for various services that created what amounts to a read-only-role would upstream have interest in pulling those in? | 18:16 |
| hrybacki | policy-in-code stuff aside | 18:16 |
| lbragstad | sure | 18:16 |
| lbragstad | i think that would certainly be useful | 18:16 |
| lbragstad | since there is a need for it and that's been proven by several operators | 18:16 |
| lbragstad | implementation-wise | 18:16 |
| lbragstad | i'm not sure we'd keep the policy files in tree (since we're moving away from that model) | 18:17 |
| * hrybacki nods | 18:17 | |
| lbragstad | but documenting them somehow somewhere would be good | 18:17 |
| lbragstad | along with a document that explains the rationale (which would need to be updated with the system-scoping work) | 18:17 |
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| hrybacki | ack. okay cool, I'll brainstorm more with you offline? | 18:18 |
| lbragstad | yeah - i think that would be useful as a stop-gap until we fix things | 18:18 |
| lbragstad | ++ | 18:18 |
| * hrybacki nods | 18:18 | |
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| josecastroleon | lbragstad: we have been reviewing our stuff once back from the summit | 18:19 |
| josecastroleon | we have quite some things we can submit | 18:20 |
| josecastroleon | on the LDAP part | 18:20 |
| lbragstad | nice! | 18:20 |
| lbragstad | has any of it been recorded publicly? | 18:21 |
| lbragstad | (bug reports, specs, blueprints, etc...)? | 18:21 |
| josecastroleon | not yet but they will be soon, right? KwozyMan | 18:21 |
| KwozyMan | aye | 18:22 |
| lbragstad | KwozyMan: you must be at CERN? | 18:22 |
| KwozyMan | lbragstad: I am | 18:22 |
| lbragstad | KwozyMan: awesome - happy to have you here | 18:22 |
| KwozyMan | thank you, hope to be able to help | 18:22 |
| lbragstad | don't hesitate to reach out if you have any questions | 18:23 |
| KwozyMan | alright, I'll start lurking on #keystone | 18:23 |
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| lbragstad | good deal - you should be able to find all of us in #openstack-keystone | 18:23 |
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| lbragstad | does anyone have anything else? | 18:24 |
| josecastroleon | quick one, have you discussed already about the project id configured by the operator? | 18:24 |
| josecastroleon | the one that came on the summit from orange | 18:24 |
| lbragstad | josecastroleon: i just came across that bug report this morning | 18:24 |
| josecastroleon | sorry | 18:25 |
| lbragstad | oh - wait, nevermind | 18:25 |
| lbragstad | yeah | 18:25 |
| lbragstad | i was thinking of a separate bug | 18:25 |
| lbragstad | i spent about a day digging last week | 18:25 |
| lbragstad | i went through all keystone source back to diablo to try and figure out the paper trail there | 18:25 |
| lbragstad | but since kmalloc is here, he's pretty much the project historian at this point ;) | 18:26 |
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| lbragstad | josecastroleon: i attempted to document the new requirements in the recap i wrote | 18:27 |
| lbragstad | #link https://www.lbragstad.com/blog/openstack-summit-sydney-recap | 18:27 |
| lbragstad | specifically in the Other Feedback section | 18:27 |
| lbragstad | (kmalloc can probably correct me here) | 18:27 |
| lbragstad | i thought we came out of that session with two new requirements that I don't think we were aware of the first time we discussed this ability of the API | 18:28 |
| lbragstad | 1.) Authorization data must not come from the source of authentication | 18:28 |
| lbragstad | 2.) Data replication at the database layer might not be possible due to data security issues between countries | 18:28 |
| lbragstad | when #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/241346/ and #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/323499/ were proposed, we thought it was a way to get around using federation | 18:31 |
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| josecastroleon | from the comments on the reviews I think so too | 18:31 |
| lbragstad | or a way to mitigate database replication because of poor performance | 18:31 |
| lbragstad | in talking to operators at the summit - i'm not sure the poor performance was a concern, that actually didn't sound like the problem | 18:32 |
| lbragstad | the problem, as I interpreted it, was that there are laws in place that prevent you from being able to replicate traffic across borders | 18:32 |
| lbragstad | josecastroleon: is that how you understood it, too? | 18:33 |
| josecastroleon | on a telco, that's probably their main constraint | 18:34 |
| josecastroleon | on our side, it was more due to the lack of properties on the projects at the time we deploy our cloud | 18:34 |
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| lbragstad | that feature was only for specifying a specific project ID at project creation time, right? | 18:35 |
| josecastroleon | yes | 18:35 |
| lbragstad | so you'd use it to make sure the projects in other data centers have the same IDs? | 18:37 |
| lbragstad | as the legacy projects you already have in your deployment? | 18:37 |
| josecastroleon | on our case, it's a bit different | 18:38 |
| josecastroleon | there is an lifecycle management tool that creates the projects | 18:38 |
| josecastroleon | so when a user leaves the resources that he is managing are not orphaned/lost | 18:39 |
| josecastroleon | this entity identifies the resources by uuids | 18:40 |
| josecastroleon | and as the projects at that moment did not have properties | 18:40 |
| josecastroleon | we choose the id for storing it | 18:40 |
| lbragstad | ah | 18:41 |
| josecastroleon | on our side we can try to move to a property, but the existing projects will be tough to move | 18:41 |
| josecastroleon | project ids | 18:41 |
| lbragstad | because you have to change the project id | 18:41 |
| josecastroleon | at some point yes | 18:42 |
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| lbragstad | ok - so maybe what we can do it repropose one of those specifications with the requirements and use cases updated | 18:43 |
| lbragstad | i think that would help push the discussion forward | 18:43 |
| KwozyMan | lbragstad: any particular point against implementing this? | 18:43 |
| lbragstad | for that specific case, i'm not sure... the answer that was documented in the specification eluded to improving federation of building a db replication workaround into keystone's api | 18:44 |
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| lbragstad | ^ that was the main concern during the original proposal | 18:45 |
| lbragstad | because people wanted to have separate keystone's in each region but each region is part of the same deployment | 18:45 |
| lbragstad | which was about the extent of the requirement as I remember | 18:46 |
| lbragstad | and to several people, that just sounded like federation | 18:46 |
| josecastroleon | our use case is a bit simpler | 18:46 |
| lbragstad | yeah | 18:46 |
| josecastroleon | single data center | 18:46 |
| josecastroleon | single federation :D | 18:46 |
| KwozyMan | Ok, then I'll have to read up on it. It's not clear why exactly specifying id at creation time is wrong. | 18:47 |
| lbragstad | i think it would be useful to repropose the spec and document those use cases and requirements | 18:47 |
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| josecastroleon | fair enough | 18:47 |
| KwozyMan | sounds good | 18:47 |
| lbragstad | KwozyMan: i don't think anyone said it was wrong as much as we wanted to improve federation usability instead | 18:48 |
| lbragstad | but i don't think all of these requirements were involved the first time we discussed this | 18:48 |
| KwozyMan | lbragstad: sorry, just trying to understand. there will be a lot of questions from me, I'm afraid :( | 18:48 |
| lbragstad | no worries! | 18:49 |
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| lbragstad | but we've talked about this a few times | 18:49 |
| lbragstad | so i think it would be a good idea to document things in a specification with the new requirements | 18:49 |
| lbragstad | then we can iterate on it in review | 18:50 |
| KwozyMan | yes, that's a good idea | 18:50 |
| josecastroleon | great | 18:50 |
| lbragstad | (which is documenting) | 18:50 |
| lbragstad | josecastroleon: KwozyMan if either of you are interested in that - i think we could just re-use one of the existing specs | 18:51 |
| lbragstad | (keeping the context) | 18:51 |
| KwozyMan | lbragstad: send it over | 18:51 |
| lbragstad | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/323499/ | 18:52 |
| lbragstad | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/241346/ | 18:52 |
| lbragstad | the second one was the first formal proposal | 18:52 |
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| KwozyMan | roger that | 18:53 |
| lbragstad | KwozyMan: there is a lot of context in there too from other reviewers | 18:53 |
| lbragstad | so that might help piece things together | 18:53 |
| lbragstad | or paint a more complete picture than what I described here | 18:54 |
| lbragstad | anyone have anything else? | 18:54 |
| KwozyMan | sounds good | 18:55 |
| lbragstad | otherwise we can get a few minutes back before office hours (for those attending) | 18:55 |
| kmalloc | oh sorry stepped away for a sec | 18:55 |
| kmalloc | someone called me a historian? | 18:55 |
| * kmalloc reads back | 18:55 | |
| lbragstad | kmalloc: yeah - we can spill over into -keystone, too | 18:55 |
| lbragstad | kmalloc: i think you're opinion on that ^ discussion would be really helpful | 18:56 |
| kmalloc | sure. lets catch up in -keystone | 18:56 |
| kmalloc | and i can weigh in | 18:56 |
| lbragstad | kmalloc: awesome - josecastroleon KwozyMan you free to continue this discussion, too? | 18:56 |
| kmalloc | oh that one. | 18:56 |
| kmalloc | ugh. | 18:56 |
| lbragstad | :) | 18:56 |
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| KwozyMan | lbragstad: for some limited time, I would like to get home at some point | 18:57 |
| kmalloc | can i pretend i was never here now ;) | 18:57 |
| kmalloc | i can explain the real concerns with that proposal and why it got squashed | 18:57 |
| lbragstad | ok - let's continue in -keystone then | 18:57 |
| lbragstad | #endmeeting | 18:57 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Nov 21 18:57:35 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:57 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2017/keystone.2017-11-21-18.00.html | 18:57 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2017/keystone.2017-11-21-18.00.txt | 18:57 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2017/keystone.2017-11-21-18.00.log.html | 18:57 |
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| jeblair | i'm on time for this meeting today! | 19:00 |
| clarkb | hello infra | 19:00 |
| fungi | mmmeetings | 19:00 |
| clarkb | I count three, anyone else here? | 19:00 |
| AJaeger | four | 19:01 |
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| thecount | ha ha ha | 19:01 |
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| AJaeger | :) | 19:01 |
| clarkb | #startmeeting infra | 19:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Nov 21 19:01:40 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is clarkb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'infra' | 19:01 |
| clarkb | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/InfraTeamMeeting#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 19:01 |
| pabelanger | o/ | 19:01 |
| clarkb | There was a bit of stuff left over from last meeting that I took the liberty of clearing off the agenda. Feel free to reraise items as we go through if I shoudn't have removed something | 19:02 |
| clarkb | #topic Announcements | 19:02 |
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| frickler | o/ | 19:02 |
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| clarkb | This week is a major holiday in the US so expect those of us living there to be AFK starting thursday | 19:03 |
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| clarkb | I will be picking up a turkey this afternoon so the fun starts early too | 19:03 |
| mguiney | (/me lurk) | 19:03 |
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| clarkb | #topic Actions from last meeting | 19:04 |
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| clarkb | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2017/infra.2017-10-31-19.01.txt Minutes from last meeting | 19:04 |
| clarkb | er thats the wrong link | 19:04 |
| clarkb | #undo | 19:04 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2017/infra.2017-10-31-19.01.txt | 19:04 |
| clarkb | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2017/infra.2017-11-14-19.00.txt | 19:04 |
| clarkb | The only action there is for ianw to confirm backups are working properly. I saw report that this had been confirmed yseterday so \o/ | 19:05 |
| clarkb | fungi: you've also had an action to document secrets backup policy. Has that change been pushed/merged? | 19:05 |
| fungi | strangely, it looks like my pending action item got omitted | 19:05 |
| fungi | but yeah | 19:05 |
| fungi | #link https://review.openstack.org/520181 Add a section on secrets to the migration guide | 19:05 |
| fungi | needs reviewers | 19:06 |
| jeblair | oh cool thanks! | 19:06 |
| clarkb | thanks | 19:06 |
| fungi | there was nowhere good to add the note about it, so i added a section to give us somewhere | 19:06 |
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| jeblair | that looks great; when it merges, we should send a note to the dev list pointing people at it, for the benefit of those who have already read the doc | 19:08 |
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| fungi | dunno if that was too much or not enough detail about the feature, but felt it needed some context at least | 19:08 |
| clarkb | There aren't any specs that need review/approval that I've seen | 19:08 |
| clarkb | so going to skip specs approval | 19:08 |
| clarkb | #topic Priority Efforts | 19:08 |
| clarkb | did we lose the bot? | 19:08 |
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| clarkb | there it goes maybe I'm lagging | 19:08 |
| jeblair | clarkb: you seem laggy to me | 19:09 |
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| clarkb | fun! | 19:09 |
| * frickler is seeing lagging, too | 19:09 | |
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| clarkb | #topic Zuul v3 | 19:09 |
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| fungi | ahh, yeah, i had an entry for this | 19:09 |
| clarkb | Fungi asks if it is time to remove jenkins from the Gerrit CI group. ++ from me | 19:09 |
| fungi | we've gotten a few people showing up in irc asking us to delete stale -1 verify votes from "jenkins" | 19:09 |
| AJaeger | let's do it | 19:10 |
| fungi | because people aren't reviewing their changes | 19:10 |
| pabelanger | seems sane | 19:10 |
| fungi | and we did at one point before the rollout indicate that we would at some point remove jenkins from the group granting it verify voting permission | 19:10 |
| fungi | but didn't want to do it immediately because we were relying on zuul v3 trusting the verify votes left by v2 so people wouldn't need to recheck everything | 19:11 |
| clarkb | right so the concern is that removing the account from the group that is allowed to -1/-2 verify will effectively remove those votes from the UI | 19:11 |
| fungi | yup | 19:11 |
| fungi | figured now was a good time to revisit and see if we think we're just down to a long-tail of relatively inactive changes where doing a recheck isn't too onerous | 19:11 |
| mordred | well - the votes would only go away if we deleted the user, right? | 19:11 |
| mordred | rather than deleting the user from the group | 19:12 |
| jeblair | mordred: right, but they won't be visible | 19:12 |
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| fungi | mordred: gerrit "hides" the votes on active changes if you lose permission for them | 19:12 |
| mordred | wow. what a GREAT idea | 19:12 |
| jeblair | this of course will hide all the verified votes ever | 19:12 |
| fungi | so you can still see them in the db, but won't in the webui or api | 19:12 |
| fungi | jeblair: it only seems to do it for open changes. merged and abandoned were unaffected in the past by it | 19:13 |
| clarkb | ya so anything with a jenkins +1 will need to get zuul +1'd before it can gate | 19:13 |
| jeblair | fungi: oh huh | 19:13 |
| jeblair | that's less crazy | 19:13 |
| clarkb | I think its been long enough that we can make that jump now | 19:13 |
| jeblair | i agree, i'm in favor | 19:13 |
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| fungi | right. if i add myself to project bootstrappers, +2 verify and submit a change, then remove myself from that group, the verify +2 lingers on the merged change | 19:13 |
| mordred | yah. I think our stale check would be in effect by now anyway | 19:13 |
| AJaeger | let's send an email to the mailing list about this | 19:13 |
| AJaeger | (as a FYI - we've just done this) | 19:14 |
| fungi | i'll write up an announcement | 19:14 |
| jeblair | mordred: do we still have that? | 19:14 |
| jeblair | stale check | 19:14 |
| mordred | jeblair: oh - do we not? | 19:14 |
| clarkb | I think we got rid of it | 19:14 |
| fungi | we do not do stale result checking | 19:14 |
| AJaeger | mordred: ages ago... | 19:14 |
| mordred | ah. well, silly me | 19:14 |
| jeblair | yeah seems to be gone | 19:14 |
| fungi | right, it's been a couple of years i think? my sense of time is pretty terrible any more though | 19:14 |
| mordred | in any case, I think it's long enough that requiring a new +1 from zuul shouldn't be a super large burden | 19:14 |
| jeblair | if i can slip in a late addition to the topic... | 19:16 |
| jeblair | pabelanger proposed removing infra-check: https://review.openstack.org/521880 | 19:16 |
| clarkb | I thnik we have plenty of time | 19:16 |
| jeblair | i think it's time for that as well | 19:16 |
| clarkb | jeblair: ++ | 19:16 |
| fungi | wfm | 19:16 |
| mordred | ++ | 19:17 |
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| pabelanger | Yay | 19:17 |
| fungi | i did not approve in case others were still reviewing | 19:17 |
| pabelanger | and zuul-env from DIB: https://review.openstack.org/514483/ | 19:17 |
| jeblair | aiui the shim should handle the removal of that transparently, but we should still be prepared to keep an eye out and roll back images if something about that fails | 19:18 |
| clarkb | for ^ I think just need to approve it when we are ready to field questions from anyone that may have used the zuul env in weird ways (lets hope there are zero cases of that :) ) | 19:18 |
| clarkb | jeblair: yup that was my undersatnding as well | 19:18 |
| pabelanger | cool | 19:19 |
| mordred | clarkb: wait - you're saying that people may have used a thing in a ways we didn't intend or forsee? I find that hard to imagine ... | 19:19 |
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| clarkb | :) | 19:19 |
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| fungi | i suppose we could codesearch for /usr/zuul-env or whatever the path is | 19:20 |
| AJaeger | mordred: I expect you didn't find any such cases while working on releasenotes and sphinx ;) | 19:20 |
| clarkb | do we want to have a more explicit list of transition cleanup changes somewhere that we can work through? | 19:20 |
| fungi | codesearch says manila is doing that | 19:20 |
| clarkb | I know we had an etherpad for the VM instances maybe tack something onto there | 19:20 |
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| fungi | and oslo.messaging | 19:21 |
| * AJaeger approves the infra-check removal in a minute or two | 19:21 | |
| fungi | and tooz... | 19:21 |
| fungi | there's a ton | 19:21 |
| clarkb | another thing was moving the jenkins user stuff into its own element that third party CIs could use that we wouldn't | 19:21 |
| fungi | ahh, because they copied legacy playbooks in-repo | 19:21 |
| clarkb | pabelanger: ^ do you know if the jenkins stuff has changes yet (or maybe is done?) | 19:21 |
| mordred | AJaeger: I'm certainly not STILL finding them | 19:21 |
| pabelanger | clarkb: yah, I have a change up, but need to rework it still into own element | 19:21 |
| pabelanger | I can finish that today | 19:22 |
| fungi | so anyway, according to codesearch there's going to be a ton of cross-project work involved in removing use of zuul-env from copies of legacy jobs | 19:22 |
| fungi | likely also copied to stable branches codesearch isn't indexing | 19:22 |
| clarkb | fungi: probably worth an email to the dev list with a link to the change where we want to delete it | 19:23 |
| fungi | yeah | 19:23 |
| clarkb | similar to the run: foo -> run: foo.yaml email | 19:23 |
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| pabelanger | https://review.openstack.org/521937/ could use a final +3 too, removes static wheel-builder slaves | 19:23 |
| pabelanger | once merged, i can delete servers and push on other static slave nodes | 19:23 |
| mordred | wait - removing zuul-env from the images won't break people using /usr/zuul-env/bin/zuul-cloner - that's where we put zuul-cloner in the legacy base job | 19:24 |
| pabelanger | mordred: right | 19:24 |
| clarkb | its only if they use any other content of the venv | 19:24 |
| mordred | so like the manila jobs thatuse it shouldn't be broken, they're in legacy jobs | 19:24 |
| mordred | yah. | 19:24 |
| pabelanger | it will break once we remove zuul-cloner from base job, but that is another topic for another day | 19:24 |
| pabelanger | into base-legacy | 19:25 |
| mordred | it's already in base-legacy, no? | 19:25 |
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| pabelanger | yes, but we haven't removed it from base yet | 19:25 |
| jeblair | it's in both? | 19:25 |
| mordred | this: /usr.zuul-env(!?.bin.zuul-cloner)/ should be a regex for finding zuul-env uses other than zuul-cloner yeah? | 19:25 |
| pabelanger | jeblair: yes | 19:25 |
| jeblair | on purpose? | 19:26 |
| pabelanger | see https://review.openstack.org/513506/ for history | 19:26 |
| clarkb | mordred: that looks right | 19:26 |
| pabelanger | I think once we remove zuul-env in DIB, we can circle back to 513506 | 19:27 |
| mordred | clarkb: ok. according to that there are no uses of zuul-env that are not zuul-cloner | 19:27 |
| jeblair | okay. | 19:27 |
| jeblair | i agree the way to proceed is to remove it from images, then 513506 | 19:28 |
| fungi | oh, got it, so if they use zuul-cloner that's fine since we'll still put something executable at /usr/zuul-env/bin/zuul-cloner for the foreseeable future? | 19:28 |
| jeblair | if 506 breaks people, it will be easy to revert | 19:28 |
| clarkb | fungi: yes | 19:28 |
| clarkb | fungi: there just won't be a virtualenv there around it | 19:28 |
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| clarkb | and to double check zuul-cloner shim doesn't rely on the virtualenv python or any libs there right? | 19:29 |
| mordred | I agree with jeblair - I think 506 is good to land- there really shouldn't be jobs using zuul-cloner and not parented on legacy-base and if there are we need to find them | 19:29 |
| clarkb | it runs from system python? | 19:29 |
| mordred | clarkb: that's right | 19:29 |
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| jeblair | oh, i'm assuming we put the shim in base because just in case someone ended up (even accidentally as dmsimard says) using the cloner, we wanted them using the shim and not v2 | 19:29 |
| fungi | that's less scary then. i thought we were talking about _also_ removing the zuul-cloner shim | 19:29 |
| mordred | clarkb: it'snot installed in the venv - it's just copied there | 19:29 |
| jeblair | to summarize: | 19:29 |
| jeblair | 1) remove zuul-env from images now. if that doesn't blow up: | 19:29 |
| pabelanger | mordred: ++ | 19:30 |
| jeblair | 2) remove zuul-cloner shim from base immediately afterwords. | 19:30 |
| jeblair | 3) if that blows up, fix those jobs, or temporarily revert 506 to add zuul-cloner shim back. repeat as necessary. | 19:30 |
| mordred | jeblair: ++ | 19:30 |
| jeblair | 4) in the distant future, remove legacy-base (which will continue to install the shim as long as it exists) | 19:30 |
| jeblair | [eol] | 19:30 |
| fungi | yeah, that seems sane | 19:31 |
| mordred | I have verified that fetch-zuul-cloner will create the directory if it's not there | 19:31 |
| clarkb | sounds like a plan | 19:31 |
| mordred | so it should still work on images without the venv | 19:31 |
| jeblair | lemme info this | 19:31 |
| jeblair | #info plan for removing zuul-cloner shim: | 19:31 |
| jeblair | #info 1) remove zuul-env from images now. if that doesn't blow up: | 19:31 |
| jeblair | #info 2) remove zuul-cloner shim from base immediately afterwords. | 19:31 |
| jeblair | #info 3) if that blows up, fix those jobs, or temporarily revert 506 to add zuul-cloner shim back. repeat as necessary. | 19:31 |
| jeblair | #info 4) in the distant future, remove legacy-base (which will continue to install the shim as long as it exists) | 19:32 |
| jeblair | k | 19:32 |
| AJaeger | step 1 is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/514483 | 19:32 |
| pabelanger | wfm | 19:32 |
| AJaeger | step 2 is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/514483 | 19:32 |
| AJaeger | jeblair: plan is fine. Who wants to +A 514483? | 19:32 |
| clarkb | #info step 1 is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/514483 | 19:32 |
| clarkb | #info step 2 is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/513506/ | 19:33 |
| pabelanger | I can watch step1 now | 19:33 |
| clarkb | ok, anything else related to zuulv3? | 19:34 |
| jeblair | nak | 19:34 |
| pabelanger | it is awesome | 19:34 |
| pabelanger | :) | 19:34 |
| clarkb | #topic General Topics | 19:34 |
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| clarkb | This is where I claered out a whole bunch of stuff from the agenda that appeared stale so speak up if I did so and shouldn't have | 19:35 |
| mordred | pabelanger: I +A'd 514483 | 19:35 |
| pabelanger | mordred: ack | 19:35 |
| clarkb | Worth mentioning again that ianw reported that the new backup server is functioning and has the old backups servers volumes attached to it | 19:35 |
| clarkb | thank you ianw for getting that sorted out | 19:35 |
| fungi | thanks a ton ian! that's been on our backlog longer than i want to think about | 19:36 |
| clarkb | we should make a note to remove and delete the old volumes after an appropriate amount of time. Maybe in the new year? | 19:36 |
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| clarkb | that gives us just over a month or so of keeping old backups around | 19:37 |
| fungi | yeah, that seems long enough to me | 19:37 |
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| pabelanger | agree | 19:37 |
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| fungi | we've also never figured out how to rotate backups so we don't eat disk space indefinitely. i wonder if that's a good model (switch volumes, then evenrually remove old volumes) | 19:38 |
| clarkb | fungi: so rather than adding up to one 3TB filesystem just swap out an old 1TB fs for a new 1TB fs? | 19:38 |
| mordred | wfm | 19:39 |
| clarkb | (should check actual usage before committing to a specific size but I like the idea of rotating rather than appending) | 19:39 |
| fungi | if memory serves, bup doesn't have a way to age out data, so we do incur a bunch of overhead re-priming the new volume under that model | 19:39 |
| clarkb | fungi: correct | 19:39 |
| fungi | as we have to transfer a full copy of everything rather than just differential/incremental changes | 19:40 |
| fungi | i think it comes down to a question of how much we're backing up, and how much retention we want | 19:40 |
| clarkb | ianw may also have thoughts having just done it | 19:41 |
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| fungi | and how much disk we can allocate, i guess | 19:41 |
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| fungi | though this might also be a good thing to try moving to vexxhost? | 19:41 |
| clarkb | ya ceph may make this substantially easier | 19:41 |
| clarkb | (not sure) | 19:42 |
| fungi | if nothing else, it's been suggested that getting available block devices of substantial size is much easier for us there than in rax | 19:42 |
| fungi | like, could get a 25tb block device rather than having to stitch together a slew of 1tb volumes with lvm or raid0 | 19:43 |
| clarkb | we may also consider a different tool like borg, which has support for append only and not append only backups. Not sure if you can switch between them in a way that makes sense given the reasons we have append only backups in the first place | 19:43 |
| clarkb | but thats likely significantly more worjk | 19:44 |
| mordred | yah | 19:44 |
| clarkb | The other general item I wanted to bring up quickly was we are mostly keeping up with the logstash job queue at this point. its been steady around 130-150k jobs for a couple days now and the worker processes aren't crashing \o/ | 19:45 |
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| pabelanger | nice | 19:45 |
| clarkb | I'd like to not add any significant load to that system (new files to index) until after the holiday as I'd like to see if it catches up and drives to zero with the expected drop in job activity during the holiday | 19:46 |
| clarkb | if it does that then I think we can slowly add things back in and see how we do | 19:46 |
| AJaeger | clarkb: https://review.openstack.org/520171 adds one file | 19:46 |
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| AJaeger | clarkb: do you want to WIP? ^ | 19:46 |
| clarkb | AJaeger: ya I can WIP it | 19:46 |
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| fungi | sounds like a fine plan | 19:48 |
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| clarkb | #topic Open Discussion | 19:48 |
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| pabelanger | I had 2 things, first, what do people think about a virtual sprint before or after jan 1 for control plane upgrades (xenial) | 19:49 |
| * clarkb pulls up a calendar | 19:49 | |
| pabelanger | 2nd, could have been in zuulv3 topic, I'd like to upgrade / migration nodepool-builders to feature/zuulv3 branch to build up python3 and new nodepool syntax, we've been trying to add new images and it is confusing to contributors | 19:50 |
| mordred | pabelanger: ++ to 2nd thing for sure | 19:50 |
| fungi | i should be free of visiting family around that week, if all goes well | 19:51 |
| pabelanger | for #1, https://releases.openstack.org/queens/schedule.html, r-11 or r-10 or r-4 look clear on release side of things | 19:51 |
| clarkb | r-10 and r-8 look good to me | 19:51 |
| pabelanger | yah, I could do either myself | 19:52 |
| mordred | r-10 and r-11 look good to me | 19:52 |
| clarkb | I think a matrix of availability etherpad/ethercalc thing may work best since everyone is going to have different holiday plans/travel/etc | 19:52 |
| mordred | I cannot do R-8 | 19:52 |
| clarkb | but ya I like the idea of focusing on that when things get quiet around here | 19:52 |
| fungi | yeah, r-10 and r-8 are currently clear on my calendar too | 19:53 |
| pabelanger | okay, I'll compose and send that out ML today. See when people are free and what they want to work on | 19:53 |
| jeblair | we should totally do it on jan 1 when we're all still sloshed | 19:53 |
| clarkb | sounds good | 19:53 |
| clarkb | jeblair: hahahaha | 19:53 |
| clarkb | "who needs this server? NOT US" | 19:53 |
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| pabelanger | I'd paid to see jeblair sloshed | 19:53 |
| fungi | jeblair: i can always make a point of getting sloshed regardless of the week | 19:53 |
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| clarkb | pabelanger: for the second thing, does it make sense to just merge v3 into master on nodepool at this point? | 19:54 |
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| pabelanger | clarkb: maybe jeblair or mordred can answer that | 19:55 |
| clarkb | then the install will update automagically to the new version? we just have ot update the config in sync right? | 19:55 |
| jeblair | tbf, we could probably merge v3 to master on zuul too | 19:55 |
| pabelanger | clarkb: we'd need to update puppet for python3 support, but yat | 19:55 |
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| clarkb | I'm thinking that may be the best approach as it solves the underlying issue of having the two branches | 19:55 |
| clarkb | its more work but gets us into a better state I think then we just go back to dev on master | 19:56 |
| pabelanger | yah, if we want to have that discussion, sure | 19:56 |
| * mordred is in favor of merging back to master | 19:56 | |
| mordred | on both | 19:56 |
| jeblair | it might be best to go ahead and make a plan to tell third-parties to freeze anything they need, then start updating the puppet modules and merge the branches in | 19:56 |
| mordred | we've made recentish tags on both that 3rd parties can use, yeah? | 19:57 |
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| jeblair | yeah, i think we need a plan for puppet modules though | 19:57 |
| clarkb | we have v3 flags on the puppet modules today | 19:57 |
| clarkb | we could invert it? | 19:57 |
| jeblair | maybe someone could work through all the steps for that | 19:57 |
| clarkb | so that v3 is default and if you are deploying v2 then set the flag? | 19:57 |
| jeblair | clarkb: yeah, v2 + v2 release tag could be inputs to the puppet module to get a v2 system | 19:58 |
| jeblair | and defaults could all be v3 | 19:58 |
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| dmsimard | totally missed out on the entire meeting, I had a topic but I guess we're out of time ? :/ | 19:58 |
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| fungi | you have half a minute ;) | 19:59 |
| clarkb | also I'm sure we'll mostly be around in -infra after the meeting | 19:59 |
| dmsimard | Don't want to overlap, I'll bring it up in #openstack-infra yeah | 19:59 |
| jeblair | though i will be stuffing my face with a fried chicken sandwich | 19:59 |
| clarkb | now i want one | 19:59 |
| clarkb | thanks everyone! | 20:00 |
| clarkb | #endmeeting | 20:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Nov 21 20:00:05 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2017/infra.2017-11-21-19.01.html | 20:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2017/infra.2017-11-21-19.01.txt | 20:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2017/infra.2017-11-21-19.01.log.html | 20:00 |
| fungi | reminder: no tc meeting this week, but our next scheduled office hour starts 5 hours from now (01:00 utc) in #openstack-tc if you're looking for some of us | 20:01 |
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