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| zhiyuan | hi | 00:59 |
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| xuzhuang | hi | 00:59 |
| Yipei | hi | 00:59 |
| song | hi | 00:59 |
| joehuang | hi | 01:00 |
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| zhiyuan | #startmeeting tricircle | 01:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 15 01:00:42 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is zhiyuan. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 01:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 01:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: tricircle)" | 01:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tricircle' | 01:00 |
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| RongHui11 | hello | 01:01 |
| zhiyuan | i would like to discuss some implementation details of our features one by one | 01:01 |
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| zhiyuan | #topic distinguish the source of requests | 01:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "distinguish the source of requests (Meeting topic: tricircle)" | 01:02 | |
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| zhiyuan | after discuss offline with xuzhuang, we find that one problem for this feature is that the function exposed by neutronclient doesn't have header parameter | 01:03 |
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| zhiyuan | so we cannot set some labels in the header to distinguish request from local/central | 01:04 |
| zhiyuan | xuzhuang's previous patch is to set labels in query string, but i think this is not a good way | 01:04 |
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| xuzhuang | I have finished the first version code through setting source tag into req.params. The result of testing in a running openstack is the request source tag can be get in central neutron. But it's a pity that, central neutron can't transform the source tag into context. So using params is failed. | 01:05 |
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| joehuang | we may need to add this to oslo.context, and neutron-client for this field configuration | 01:06 |
| zhiyuan | i assume that you can set the label via "ctx.label = label" | 01:06 |
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| zhiyuan | one way without changing neutron-client is to set the module level value USER_AGENT | 01:07 |
| zhiyuan | abd neutron-client will put USER_AGENT in header | 01:08 |
| zhiyuan | s/abd/and | 01:08 |
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| joehuang | yes | 01:09 |
| joehuang | this field itself is to discribe the source of the request | 01:10 |
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| xuzhuang | ok, I will try to use USER_AGENT | 01:10 |
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| zhiyuan | and for setting the field in context object, i think the code looks like this | 01:12 |
| zhiyuan | ctx = req.environ['neutron.context']; ctx.label = label; req.environ['neutron.context'] = ctx | 01:13 |
| zhiyuan | the previous filter will construct the context object and put it into req.environ | 01:13 |
| zhiyuan | you need to confirm that the previous filter exactly put context object in req.environ['neutorn.context'] | 01:14 |
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| xuzhuang | There is no user_agent in context | 01:17 |
| zhiyuan | yeah, but you can still do "ctx.user_agent = xxx" | 01:17 |
| xuzhuang | ok | 01:18 |
| zhiyuan | you can dynamically add field to python object | 01:18 |
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| xuzhuang | ok, Got it | 01:18 |
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| zhiyuan | fine, then next | 01:18 |
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| zhiyuan | #topic "LBaaS with tricircle" | 01:18 |
| *** openstack changes topic to ""LBaaS with tricircle" (Meeting topic: tricircle)" | 01:18 | |
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| zhiyuan | hi yipei, I think michael has identified the problem | 01:19 |
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| zhiyuan | "the issue here is the gateway neutron gave us for the subnet is different than the one the amphora is receiving via DHCP" | 01:20 |
| zhiyuan | this is true for our tricircle environment | 01:20 |
| Yipei | hi, zhiyuan, yes, but he is oblivious of the additional route table may lead to failure for finding missing gateway ip | 01:21 |
| zhiyuan | octavia query central neutron server to get gateway ip, this is different from the local neutron gateway ip | 01:21 |
| Yipei | yes | 01:21 |
| zhiyuan | but this is not a bug of octavia, in a normal setup, the route in table 1 is a onlink route | 01:22 |
| zhiyuan | default via 10.0.0.1 dev eth1 table 1 onlink | 01:22 |
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| johnsom | o/ | 01:24 |
| Yipei | ok, i see. so do we need to change the way we set gateway ip in tricircle? | 01:24 |
| zhiyuan | hi johnsom, please | 01:24 |
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| johnsom | Just saying Hi and I can answer questions if you have them | 01:25 |
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| zhiyuan | i have a question, octavia queries the subnet gateway and set it in the route of table 1, so dhcp request will not change the route, is that correct? | 01:28 |
| Yipei | to zhiyuan, maybe we can make central neutron return the real gateway ip in local neutron? | 01:28 |
| johnsom | zhiyuan Correct, we honor the gateway neutron gives us for the neutron subnet the VIP is on. | 01:30 |
| zhiyuan | to yipei, but central neutron need to know gateway ip of which local neutron to return | 01:30 |
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| johnsom | The rule and route table are there to make sure the traffic from the VIP goes back out the right interface. This allows members to access the VIP and get the response back from the appropriate MAC, etc. | 01:33 |
| zhiyuan | johnsom, if the subnet doesn't have a gateway ip, will the route be set? | 01:34 |
| johnsom | No | 01:34 |
| zhiyuan | Yipei, so i think we have a work-around, to create a subnet without gateway ip | 01:34 |
| johnsom | https://github.com/openstack/octavia/blob/master/octavia/amphorae/backends/agent/api_server/templates/plug_vip_ethX.conf.j2#L44 | 01:35 |
| johnsom | I still don't quite understand why if they are on the same subnet it would need to go to the default route... | 01:37 |
| johnsom | It's as if you are using DVR and the arp tables are not correct. | 01:37 |
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| zhiyuan | johnsom, in tricircle, one subnet in central neutron will be created in several local neutron, to avoid ip conflict, we allocate a gateway ip for each local neutron | 01:38 |
| zhiyuan | so the gateway IPs of the same subnet in different local neutron are different | 01:39 |
| Yipei | eh... but in my environment where octavia is installed alone, the gateway ip port does not exist, the route of table 1 is still added | 01:41 |
| zhiyuan | Yipei, what about the curl traffic? | 01:42 |
| johnsom | It would likely bypass the routing table and use the default routing table with the other gateway | 01:43 |
| Yipei | i checked, same issue, haproxy cannot respond curl with source if as VIP | 01:44 |
| Yipei | s/if/ip/ | 01:44 |
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| johnsom | Sorry, I need to sign off now. | 01:48 |
| zhiyuan | bye, johnsom, thanks for your help | 01:49 |
| Yipei | bye johnsom, thank a lot | 01:49 |
| zhiyuan | Yipei, i think we just try to use a subnet without gateway | 01:50 |
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| Yipei | you mean the gateway port does not exist? | 01:50 |
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| zhiyuan | no, create a subnet without gateway | 01:51 |
| Yipei | if the subnet has no gateway, how about l3 traffic | 01:51 |
| zhiyuan | by default the ip is .1 | 01:51 |
| Yipei | i will test it | 01:53 |
| zhiyuan | the main problem is that octavia queries central neutron to get gateway ip | 01:54 |
| zhiyuan | this is always different from the local neutron gateway ip | 01:55 |
| Yipei | oh, i see | 01:55 |
| zhiyuan | so even you attach a router, tricircle with LB still doesn't work | 01:55 |
| Yipei | cool, i think it will work | 01:56 |
| zhiyuan | so we have a limited LB | 01:56 |
| zhiyuan | :( | 01:57 |
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| Yipei | maybe we need to figure out a way to adapt the route of table 1 in future | 01:58 |
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| zhiyuan | if we can distinguish the request from octavia, we can reply the local neutron gateway ip | 01:58 |
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| Yipei | yes, i can investigate it | 02:00 |
| Yipei | hope we can implement a full lbaas | 02:00 |
| zhiyuan | hope so | 02:01 |
| joehuang | yes, need to find a way to address this issue | 02:01 |
| zhiyuan | a quick pass of the last topic | 02:01 |
| zhiyuan | #topic QoS with tricircle | 02:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "QoS with tricircle (Meeting topic: tricircle)" | 02:01 | |
| zhiyuan | glad to see that all the tests have passed! | 02:02 |
| zhiyuan | but my last comments are not addressed | 02:02 |
| zhiyuan | the updated patch only rebase the master change | 02:02 |
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| Yipei | sorry, maybe i missed it, will double check and update it | 02:03 |
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| joehuang | to Yipei, Zhiyuan is talking about QoS | 02:04 |
| zxh | to zhiyuan, i modified your review, now adding qos bound network unit tests | 02:04 |
| zhiyuan | Yipei, we have moved to the QoS topic :) | 02:04 |
| Yipei | oh, sorry | 02:04 |
| zhiyuan | zxh, great, i think the patch need to rebase again, i see "Merge Conflict" in the review page | 02:05 |
| zxh | ok, i know, thinks | 02:06 |
| song | beyond this are there any other work we can do? we also have two people freedom. | 02:07 |
| zhiyuan | oh, time's up, let's end our meeting | 02:07 |
| zhiyuan | song, let's discuss in openstack-tricircle | 02:07 |
| song | good | 02:07 |
| zhiyuan | #endmeeting | 02:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 02:08 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 15 02:08:04 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 02:08 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tricircle/2017/tricircle.2017-11-15-01.00.html | 02:08 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tricircle/2017/tricircle.2017-11-15-01.00.txt | 02:08 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tricircle/2017/tricircle.2017-11-15-01.00.log.html | 02:08 |
| zhiyuan | thanks for join the meeting | 02:08 |
| zhiyuan | bye | 02:08 |
| xuzhuang | bye | 02:08 |
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| diga | hi | 04:17 |
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| gongysh | #startmeeting tacker | 04:30 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 15 04:30:36 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gongysh. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 04:30 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 04:30 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tacker' | 04:30 |
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| MinWookKim | o/ | 04:30 |
| gongysh | #topic roll call | 04:30 |
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| diga | o/ | 04:31 |
| Dinesh_Bhor | o/ | 04:31 |
| gongysh | Dinesh_Bhor, diga hi | 04:32 |
| diga | gongysh: hi | 04:32 |
| MinWookKim | gongysh, Dinesh_Bhor, diga hi | 04:33 |
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| tbh | o/ | 04:33 |
| dkushwaha | o/ | 04:33 |
| diga | gongysh: kirandivekar is joining from my org today, he is a senior architect having more than 17 years of exp | 04:34 |
| gongysh | dkushwaha, tbh , YanXing_an , hi | 04:34 |
| diga | kirandivekar: welcome to team | 04:34 |
| tbh | Hi gongysh | 04:34 |
| gongysh | kirandivekar, welcome | 04:34 |
| Dinesh_Bhor | kirandivekar: welcome | 04:34 |
| MinWookKim | kirandivekar, welcom : ) | 04:34 |
| kirandivekar | hi all, kiran here...joining as new member | 04:34 |
| tbh | kirandivekar, welcome to the tacker! | 04:35 |
| gongysh | #topic blueprint | 04:35 |
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| gongysh | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/511991/ | 04:35 |
| gongysh | Implement containerized VNF in Kubernetes VIM | 04:35 |
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| gongysh | I have a comment on it | 04:36 |
| gongysh | we have an agreement about it: first we need a pure k8s VIM | 04:37 |
| diga | gongysh: yes, we almost submitted everything as per the review comment | 04:37 |
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| gongysh | no kury-kubernetes | 04:37 |
| gongysh | no dependency on openstack env. | 04:37 |
| diga | gongysh: we have to depend on kuryr | 04:38 |
| diga | because kuryr only provides container networking for k8s and docker | 04:38 |
| diga | and it is reliable project now in openstack ecosystem | 04:38 |
| tbh | diga,kuryr provides container networking in case of openstack env | 04:39 |
| diga | tbh: yes | 04:39 |
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| tbh | diga, but gongysh stsatement makes sense | 04:40 |
| gongysh | diga, we agreed that we will provide pure k8s vim and k8s with openstack vim | 04:40 |
| gongysh | in pure k8s vim, there is no need of kuryr | 04:40 |
| tbh | +1 | 04:40 |
| diga | at the end we have provide neutron networks to k8s pods and containers | 04:40 |
| diga | it is required in case of containerized VNF on k8s but not for k8s as a vim | 04:41 |
| diga | Both use cases (BP's) are different | 04:42 |
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| gongysh | diga, you mentioned both BPs, where are they? | 04:44 |
| diga | gongysh: https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/tacker-specs/specs/queens/Kubernetes-as-VIM.html | 04:44 |
| diga | this one is related to kubernetes as VIM | 04:44 |
| diga | the one we are talking about now is containerized VNF on k8s | 04:45 |
| gongysh | it seems https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/tacker-specs/specs/queens/Kubernetes-as-VIM.html is a k8s with kuryr | 04:46 |
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| gongysh | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/511991/ is designed based on it. | 04:47 |
| phuoc_ | gongsyh, we are trying to support both pure k8s and k8s with kuryr-kubernetes | 04:47 |
| diga | I never looked at previous BP in detail but it was merged it last week already | 04:47 |
| diga | K8s as VIM | 04:48 |
| gongysh | phuoc_ then how do we known if the vim has the kuryr capability? | 04:48 |
| phuoc_ | actually if we don't consider to connect to VM, it is the same as pure K8S | 04:48 |
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| phuoc_ | we can not know about it | 04:49 |
| gongysh | the capability of kuryr will impact the implementation of c-VNF | 04:49 |
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| phuoc_ | because Tacker focuses on VNFM and NFVO | 04:50 |
| phuoc_ | we don't care about the infrastructure too much | 04:50 |
| diga | gongysh: kuryr is anyway needed for both in my opinion because without kuryr, we cannot configure the k8s pod networking | 04:50 |
| gongysh | in a pure k8s, we will have no openstack in target vim | 04:50 |
| phuoc_ | gongysh, it is the problem we need to figure out | 04:51 |
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| diga | phuoc_: no, it is important to care about infrastructure otherwise we may fail in configuring c-vnf part | 04:51 |
| diga | tbh: what do you think ? | 04:51 |
| diga | I think trinath might have different understanding about this but he is not here today | 04:52 |
| phuoc_ | we have to support both two cases | 04:52 |
| diga | gongysh: what problem you see in kuryr ? actually I dont understand it | 04:53 |
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| gongysh | in a k8s with openstack target vim env, we still need openstack access credentials. | 04:53 |
| gongysh | diga, it is about target vim env. we need to cover pure k8s env, that is lighter than k8s and openstack env. | 04:54 |
| diga | gongysh: got it | 04:54 |
| phuoc_ | maybe we can add some code to check if kuryr is enable | 04:55 |
| diga | gongysh: okay, and you mean it should not depend on any infrastructure layer | 04:55 |
| diga | gongysh: then in that case, we should not bring kuryr in this picture | 04:55 |
| phuoc_ | and depend on each case, we can treat them differently | 04:55 |
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| gongysh | phuoc_, we still need openstack access information when we register a k8s with openstack vim. | 04:56 |
| phuoc_ | gongysh, I will check it again | 04:58 |
| tbh | gongysh, you mean we need openstack details for accessing neutron? | 04:58 |
| gongysh | tbh, at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/511991/ , it reads the loadbalancer will be used. | 04:59 |
| gongysh | the loadbalancer will be openstack neutron lb service | 05:00 |
| gongysh | if there is no openstack information, how we can do it? | 05:00 |
| phuoc_ | gongysh, I updated it with Kubernetes service | 05:01 |
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| tbh | gongysh, yeah that's what I was referring ... agreed | 05:01 |
| phuoc_ | it will cover for pure k8s | 05:01 |
| gongysh | ok, lets move on | 05:01 |
| phuoc_ | I will put detail about how to translate too | 05:02 |
| diga | phuoc_: let sync before updating further | 05:02 |
| gongysh | dkushwaha, hi | 05:02 |
| diga | need to cover these steps | 05:03 |
| dkushwaha | gongysh, hi | 05:03 |
| gongysh | #topic bug triage | 05:03 |
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| gongysh | dkushwaha, your time | 05:03 |
| dkushwaha | Currently we have total 183 open bugs | 05:04 |
| dkushwaha | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tacker-bug | 05:04 |
| diga | ooops | 05:04 |
| dkushwaha | 63 bugs are in progress, and most of them, no one working on that | 05:04 |
| dkushwaha | i think first we needs to focus on that | 05:05 |
| diga | to start with | 05:05 |
| dkushwaha | there are 5 bugs with high importance | 05:06 |
| diga | dkushwaha: do you have some low hanging fruits kind of bugs, then I can assign them to my team | 05:06 |
| diga | ohh | 05:06 |
| dkushwaha | diga yea | 05:07 |
| dkushwaha | diga, https://bugs.launchpad.net/tacker/+bugs?field.tag=low-hanging-fruit | 05:07 |
| dkushwaha | there are 5 bugs in that, | 05:07 |
| diga | dkushwaha: I will assign those to me now | 05:07 |
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| dkushwaha | ok discuss high importance first | 05:08 |
| dkushwaha | gongysh, https://bugs.launchpad.net/tacker/+bug/1658364 | 05:08 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1658364 in tacker "DBReferenceError when Deploy or delete vnffg" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Tim Rozet (trozet) | 05:08 |
| gongysh | does anyone want to pick it up? | 05:09 |
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| diga | if not, I will assign it to me | 05:10 |
| gongysh | diga, sure, please | 05:10 |
| diga | dkushwaha: who is venkatamahesh, is he working on bug | 05:10 |
| diga | gongysh: okay | 05:10 |
| dkushwaha | diga, on which? | 05:10 |
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| diga | I assigned it to me | 05:11 |
| diga | dkushwaha: https://bugs.launchpad.net/tacker/+bug/1648327 | 05:12 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1648327 in tacker "Name of the key in vnf-show command to be modified" [Low,In progress] - Assigned to Digambar (digambarpatil15) | 05:12 |
| dkushwaha | diga, i am not sure venkatamahesh working on, i observed he is in almost all openstack components ;) | 05:12 |
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| diga | dkushwaha: hahah | 05:12 |
| dkushwaha | gongysh, https://bugs.launchpad.net/tacker/+bug/1668838 | 05:13 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1668838 in tacker "add vnffg functional tests" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Jimmy.Ye (jimmy.ye) | 05:13 |
| gongysh | YanXing_an, is Jimmy still on tacker? | 05:13 |
| dkushwaha | this seems good to go,and essential | 05:13 |
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| diga | dkushwaha: https://bugs.launchpad.net/tacker/+bug/1663082 | 05:14 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1663082 in tacker "novaclient tenant_id deprecation warning in ./prepare_functional_test.sh" [Low,New] - Assigned to Hari (hosingh000) | 05:14 |
| diga | dkushwaha: what is status of this, i saw the status is fix committed | 05:15 |
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| dkushwaha | diga, i could not found its patch, may be i needs to check more git logs | 05:16 |
| diga | dkushwaha: okay, I will also take a look at it | 05:17 |
| dkushwaha | gongysh, https://bugs.launchpad.net/tacker/+bug/1691363 | 05:17 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1691363 in tacker "VNF should not be allowed to delete separately, if part of an active NS" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to dharmendra (dharmendra-kushwaha) | 05:17 |
| diga | dkushwaha: thank you, I will target to complete these bugs in this week only | 05:17 |
| dkushwaha | gongysh, i am working on this one, hopefully will submit patch before next week meeting | 05:18 |
| gongysh | dkushwaha, you are the owner of this bug. | 05:18 |
| gongysh | thanks | 05:18 |
| dkushwaha | gongysh, https://bugs.launchpad.net/tacker/+bug/1656997 | 05:19 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1656997 in tacker "possible invalid custom node " [High,In progress] - Assigned to Tung Doan (tungdoan) | 05:19 |
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| dkushwaha | gongysh, not sure about this one, will it be abandon or valid | 05:19 |
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| gongysh | dkushwaha, I will have a look at it | 05:20 |
| dkushwaha | gongysh, sure | 05:21 |
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| dkushwaha | gongysh, other than these bugs, there are some bugs reported by "Manik Bindlish" | 05:21 |
| dkushwaha | he is working with me in Tacker/NFV Poc related activities | 05:22 |
| gongysh | is he working in tacker team? | 05:23 |
| diga | yes | 05:24 |
| gongysh | will he fix the reported bugs? | 05:24 |
| diga | guys we have less time left | 05:24 |
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| dkushwaha | gongysh, yes, but mostly involved him for Tacker Testing activities | 05:24 |
| gongysh | ok | 05:25 |
| dkushwaha | gongysh, he will start code contributing in Tacker too | 05:25 |
| gongysh | great | 05:25 |
| diga | gongysh: can you brief us about Tacker demo and what is communities take on tacker in going ahead | 05:25 |
| gongysh | dkushwaha, thanks for the bug triage. | 05:25 |
| dkushwaha | gongysh, one bug i would like to discuss is https://bugs.launchpad.net/tacker/+bug/1716831 | 05:25 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1716831 in tacker "No handling when updating with wrong value(disk size) for VNF updation" [Undecided,Confirmed] - Assigned to Manik Bindlish (manikbindlish) | 05:25 |
| phuoc_ | dkushwaha, it is nice | 05:25 |
| diga | gongysh: I hope you had interaction with TC members and other PTL in the summit | 05:25 |
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| diga | dkushwaha: I appreciate your effort in bug triage | 05:26 |
| gongysh | diga, not yet, but I will commit some time for it. | 05:26 |
| dkushwaha | gongysh, whenever we update vnf with wrong data, it goes success, but actually no update | 05:26 |
| gongysh | dkushwaha, got it | 05:27 |
| dkushwaha | what should be the behavior in that case | 05:27 |
| gongysh | dkushwaha, with wrong data, we can raise exception and return message to end users. | 05:27 |
| gongysh | dkushwaha, could you continue the triaging the job? | 05:28 |
| dkushwaha | gongysh, yes sure | 05:28 |
| gongysh | dkushwaha, thanks | 05:29 |
| gongysh | lets code to reduce the bugs. | 05:29 |
| gongysh | thanks everyone | 05:29 |
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| gongysh | #endmeeting | 05:30 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 15 05:30:19 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 05:30 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2017/tacker.2017-11-15-04.30.html | 05:30 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2017/tacker.2017-11-15-04.30.txt | 05:30 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2017/tacker.2017-11-15-04.30.log.html | 05:30 |
| gongysh | we can talk at tacker channel | 05:30 |
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| witek | #startmeeting monasca | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 15 14:00:34 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is witek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'monasca' | 14:00 |
| witek | Hello everyone | 14:00 |
| dougsz | hi all | 14:00 |
| fouadben | hi all | 14:01 |
| witek | small group today | 14:01 |
| sc | hi | 14:01 |
| witek | let's start then | 14:02 |
| dougsz | I added point 1. to the agenda | 14:02 |
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| dougsz | I'm new to the monasca project | 14:02 |
| witek | #topic value_meta in alarms | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "value_meta in alarms (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 14:02 | |
| witek | hi Doug | 14:02 |
| dougsz | Hi Witek | 14:03 |
| witek | nice to see StackHPC again :) | 14:03 |
| dougsz | :) | 14:03 |
| witek | https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2001282 | 14:03 |
| dougsz | So this one is about alarms on log metrics | 14:03 |
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| dougsz | And how it could be helpful to include some value_meta in the alarm notification | 14:04 |
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| dougsz | So for example, for log metrics, that value meta could be the first line of a log message | 14:04 |
| witek | yes, it could be useful in other use cases as well | 14:05 |
| witek | at the moment the information gets 'lost' in monasca-thresh | 14:06 |
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| dougsz | That's right | 14:06 |
| akiraY | o/ | 14:06 |
| dougsz | I had a brief look at not dropping it and it looks to involve adding another table in the DB | 14:06 |
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| dougsz | Similar to the existing metric dimensions table | 14:06 |
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| dougsz | I guess, if people think the story is worth pursuing I could write a spec with some more detail | 14:07 |
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| witek | I think it should be enough to extend the alarm-state-transition message | 14:08 |
| witek | to include value and value_meta | 14:08 |
| witek | and then monasca-notification could use it to create the notification message | 14:09 |
| dougsz | sounds good | 14:09 |
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| dougsz | so you don't think modifying the DB is required? | 14:09 |
| witek | alarm-state-transitions are persisted to InfluxDB | 14:10 |
| witek | we might have to modify persister | 14:11 |
| dougsz | ah sure - i was referring to the MySQL DB | 14:11 |
| witek | no, I don't think we have to touch MySQL | 14:11 |
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| dougsz | Ok thanks - I'll go back and have a closer look. | 14:12 |
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| witek | in the story you write about extending MetricDefinition | 14:12 |
| witek | I don't think it's the right way | 14:12 |
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| dougsz | Ok, thanks for the pointer. | 14:13 |
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| witek | I think it's a good change, it helps to make the notifications more customisable | 14:13 |
| nseyvet | hi, sorry a bit late. | 14:13 |
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| witek | hi nseyvet | 14:13 |
| dougsz | Thanks witek - I believe rbrandt had a use case for it as well. | 14:14 |
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| witek | persister has already 'reason_data' but I think it's not used | 14:15 |
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| witek | dougsz: if you could write a spec for this, that would be great | 14:16 |
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| dougsz | witek: Sounds good to me. I'll try and come up with something. | 14:16 |
| witek | thanks | 14:16 |
| dougsz | np - thanks for taking a look. | 14:17 |
| witek | is anyone from HPE who could comment? | 14:17 |
| witek | Roland is out of office this week I guess | 14:18 |
| witek | #topic Cassandra update | 14:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Cassandra update (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 14:19 | |
| jgu | Hi witek | 14:19 |
| jgu | that's me and Scott | 14:19 |
| witek | hi James | 14:19 |
| witek | and Scott :) | 14:19 |
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| witek | thanks for the test framework | 14:20 |
| jgu | https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2001292 we have completed the test plan: mix of 1mil fixed "admin" metrics and 3 mil active guest vm metrics that rolls over 10% at each 1 bil measurements/run). Throughput: 85k metrics/second with Cassandra one a three baremetal node cluster 128GB RAM, 48 CPU, three disk each. Does the number sound good enough? | 14:20 |
| jgu | witek: it was fun | 14:20 |
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| witek | so you have tested Java persister, right? | 14:21 |
| jgu | yes. | 14:21 |
| witek | do you have results for Python as well? | 14:21 |
| jgu | not yet due to hardware availability issue | 14:21 |
| jgu | now we are wrapping up Java, we can switch to Python | 14:21 |
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| jgu | if that's needed | 14:22 |
| witek | how do you generate the set of metrics for test scenario? | 14:22 |
| jgu | I added some details in the storyboard: https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2001292 | 14:23 |
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| jgu | we use JMeter with kafka plugin to generate kafka metric messages | 14:23 |
| jgu | so we tested kafka+persister+cassandra | 14:23 |
| witek | OK, so two test plans are included in the tool already | 14:24 |
| jgu | yes | 14:24 |
| nseyvet | pretty nice!! | 14:24 |
| jgu | nseyvet: thanks! | 14:24 |
| nseyvet | I saw the jmeter files come in. | 14:24 |
| witek | the requirement for the env is to have Kafka, Persister and TSDB installed, right? | 14:24 |
| jgu | yes | 14:25 |
| akiraY | wonderful! | 14:25 |
| jgu | there is a small change in persister is required for the tool to correctly count the throughput | 14:25 |
| witek | is it documented somewhere? | 14:26 |
| jgu | it is in the same code patch | 14:26 |
| jgu | :-) | 14:26 |
| akiraY | :D | 14:26 |
| witek | we would need the same for Python? | 14:27 |
| jgu | it changes the flush meter to reflect the metrics persisted, bot the numbe rof batches | 14:27 |
| jgu | witek: ah yes. we haven't got to the same change for Python yet | 14:27 |
| witek | fine for now | 14:28 |
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| jgu | when we test python, will need it. It's a very small and easy change | 14:28 |
| jgu | thanks for pointing that out | 14:28 |
| witek | with how many persister instances have you tested? | 14:28 |
| jgu | three persister instances | 14:28 |
| witek | nice job, thanks for that | 14:29 |
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| jgu | kafka/zookeeper, persister and tsdb are colocated on 128GB, 48 COPU node | 14:29 |
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| jgu | s/COPU/CPU/ | 14:30 |
| witek | we should try to get Cassandra changes merged soon | 14:30 |
| witek | reviews are very welcome | 14:30 |
| jgu | I was hoping so :-) | 14:30 |
| witek | do you need help on zuul configuration? | 14:31 |
| jgu | scott? | 14:31 |
| jgu | sgrasley is working on the zuul gate | 14:31 |
| sgrasley | Yes please | 14:31 |
| witek | I guess we can take care of it | 14:33 |
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| witek | anything else on that topic? | 14:34 |
| jgu | nope | 14:34 |
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| jgu | thanks Witek | 14:34 |
| witek | thanks for the code | 14:34 |
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| witek | #topic new meeting time | 14:35 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "new meeting time (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 14:35 | |
| jgu | thanks for reviewing the code in advance | 14:35 |
| witek | would you like to make a survey for the new meeting time? | 14:35 |
| witek | I have prepared a doodle | 14:36 |
| witek | https://doodle.com/poll/s5fwqtu7ik898p57 | 14:36 |
| jgu | I like doodling :-) | 14:36 |
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| witek | times only for Wednesday, but we're free to change that as well | 14:37 |
| nseyvet | which TZ are those hours? | 14:37 |
| witek | should be in your local time | 14:37 |
| jgu | do we choose one or multiples? | 14:37 |
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| jgu | never mind -- see the colors | 14:38 |
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| fouadben | done | 14:38 |
| witek | nseyvet: I think you can set it yourself, my doodle display UTC | 14:38 |
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| witek | nseyvet: the info is displayed above the table | 14:38 |
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| jgu | done here too | 14:39 |
| witek | I will also send the link to the mailing list as not everyone is here | 14:39 |
| akiraY | done | 14:40 |
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| jgu | witek: thanks for the survey | 14:40 |
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| witek | I'll share the result early next week on the mailing list | 14:42 |
| witek | is it OK? | 14:42 |
| nseyvet | yes | 14:42 |
| jgu | yes | 14:42 |
| fouadben | witek: yes | 14:42 |
| akiraY | yes | 14:43 |
| witek | #topic Summit update | 14:43 |
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| witek | last week we've been in Sydney at the OpenStack summit | 14:44 |
| witek | we had a hands-on workshop, and 4 presentations | 14:44 |
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| witek | sc: thanks for help on the workshop | 14:44 |
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| witek | Monasca was also presented on SUSE and Fujitsu booths in marketplace | 14:45 |
| akiraY | :) | 14:46 |
| witek | there is one interesting initiative started, self-healing SIG | 14:46 |
| witek | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Self_healing_SIG | 14:46 |
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| witek | it started actually at PTG in Denver already | 14:47 |
| witek | the goal is to coordinate the efforts for self-healing OpenStack across different projects | 14:47 |
| witek | here the etherpad to the Forum session from Sydney: | 14:48 |
| witek | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/self-healing-rocky-forum | 14:48 |
| witek | bi-weekly meetings are planned, and own mailing list | 14:48 |
| witek | feedback was requested to define goals and scope | 14:49 |
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| sc | witek: you're welcome | 14:49 |
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| witek | I think that's all from my side | 14:50 |
| witek | it was nice meeting you in person, akiraY :) | 14:51 |
| nseyvet | I do have one question if there is some time? | 14:51 |
| witek | sure | 14:51 |
| nseyvet | I have a question about the agent <-> monasca-api <-> Keystone and plugins. The agent has a keystone_url config option, but at the same time the libvirt plugin has its own authentication credentials towards Nova for example. How is authentication/authorization architectured from a monasca agent perspective vis a vis Monasca? Should each plugin independently use Keystone or is it centralized by the agent configuration? | 14:51 |
| akiraY | o/ | 14:51 |
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| witek | libvirt is a special case I guess, because it has to collect information from nova service | 14:52 |
| witek | I'm not sure if the standard monasca-agent user has enough permissions to get required info | 14:53 |
| nseyvet | atm it reads the nova.conf file and uses those credentials. correct? | 14:54 |
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| witek | aren't credentials configured in libvirt.yaml? | 14:55 |
| nseyvet | yes | 14:55 |
| nseyvet | I thought the "auto-detect" feature would read from nova.conf | 14:55 |
| witek | ok | 14:55 |
| nseyvet | but as a general principle, how should it work? | 14:56 |
| nseyvet | and what is the purpose of the "keystone_url"? | 14:56 |
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| witek | in general every plugin should use monasca-agent credentials | 14:56 |
| witek | agent gets token from Keystone and sends it for authorisation to monasca API | 14:58 |
| witek | I guess I have to close the meeting soon | 14:59 |
| nseyvet | ok so the agent acts as a normal OpenStack project and does not rely on MonascaAPI to authenticate it? | 14:59 |
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| nseyvet | (the www_authenticate_uri config option) | 15:00 |
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| witek | nseyvet: let's continue on #openstack-monasca | 15:00 |
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| witek | have to finish now | 15:00 |
| witek | bye | 15:00 |
| nseyvet | bye | 15:00 |
| nseyvet | ty | 15:00 |
| witek | #endmeeting | 15:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 15 15:01:03 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2017/monasca.2017-11-15-14.00.html | 15:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2017/monasca.2017-11-15-14.00.txt | 15:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2017/monasca.2017-11-15-14.00.log.html | 15:01 |
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| jgu | bye | 15:01 |
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| akiraY | bye | 15:01 |
| fouadben | bye | 15:01 |
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| jungleboyj | startmeeting cinder | 16:00 |
| jungleboyj | #startmeeting cinder | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 15 16:00:36 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jungleboyj. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: cinder)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'cinder' | 16:00 |
| smcginnis | o/ | 16:00 |
| Swanson | Hi | 16:00 |
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| jungleboyj | courtesy ping: jungleboyj DuncanT diablo_rojo, diablo_rojo_phon, rajinir tbarron xyang xyang1 e0ne gouthamr thingee erlon patrickeast tommylikehu eharney geguileo smcginnis lhx_ lhx__ aspiers jgriffith moshele | 16:01 |
| jungleboyj | @! | 16:01 |
| _pewp_ | jungleboyj (Β¬_Β¬)οΎ | 16:01 |
| geguileo | hi! o/ | 16:01 |
| eharney | hi | 16:01 |
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| DuncanT | Hi | 16:01 |
| tbarron | hi | 16:01 |
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| e0ne | hi | 16:01 |
| jungleboyj | Sorry everyone for the confusion last week about the meeting. | 16:02 |
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| jungleboyj | I should have gotten the etherpad updated and every time I went to update it I got interrupted. So, thanks to who ever got that done. | 16:02 |
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| jungleboyj | Ok, I am guessing this is all we are going to have for this week so lets get started. | 16:03 |
| Swanson | These things never happened under the old regime. | 16:03 |
| jungleboyj | Swanson: :-p | 16:03 |
| smcginnis | :) | 16:03 |
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| jungleboyj | #topic Announcements | 16:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: cinder)" | 16:04 | |
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| smcginnis | Ha | 16:04 |
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| jungleboyj | So, we have our review priorities: | 16:05 |
| jungleboyj | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-spec-review-tracking | 16:05 |
| jungleboyj | A reminder to keep an eye on those because of our next agenda item: | 16:05 |
| jungleboyj | Milestone 2 for Queens is coming up in just a couple of weeks. | 16:05 |
| lhx_ | hi | 16:06 |
| lhx_ | all | 16:06 |
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| jungleboyj | I know there have been updates to specs. I need to take a look at those and see which ones can make it in before the Freeze. | 16:06 |
| jungleboyj | I think there are a couple of drivers that need reviews to get merged. | 16:06 |
| jungleboyj | Appreciate any help we can get to get those reviews done and things merged. | 16:07 |
| jungleboyj | Any questions and comments there? | 16:07 |
| smcginnis | Would be great if we didn't wait until the last week this time to do those driver reviews. | 16:07 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: Yeah, good point. | 16:08 |
| jungleboyj | Hopefully my brain has recovered enough to start working on that kind of stuff today. :-) | 16:08 |
| jungleboyj | #topic Brief Overview of Sydney Summit | 16:09 |
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| jungleboyj | Sorry that we couldn't see more of you at the summit, but it was a long way to travel. | 16:09 |
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| jungleboyj | We had a great Upstream Institute session. Got ~26 new people educated who were all eager to work on OpenStack. | 16:10 |
| jungleboyj | The Cinder On-Boarding session was attended by 6 people. | 16:10 |
| jungleboyj | Was glad to have some interest there and I got the session recorded so I will be posting that to our YouTube channel soon. | 16:10 |
| tommylikehu | jungleboyj: great! | 16:11 |
| jungleboyj | Otherwise, from a Cinder Standpoint there wasn't a lot of technical content. Feel like Summit is suffering as we feared it would when they changed the format. | 16:11 |
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| jungleboyj | Not a lot of technical content and the summit is turning into an opportunity for the people who are paying to come push their wares. | 16:12 |
| lhx_ | jungleboyj, could you show me the channel link? | 16:13 |
| jungleboyj | The sessions that were about how OpenStack is being used and where it needs to go were nice though. | 16:13 |
| jungleboyj | CERN's numbers of storage and compute needed in the future are insane. | 16:13 |
| DuncanT | Are CERN using cinder yet? | 16:14 |
| smcginnis | DuncanT: Yeah, they are. | 16:14 |
| jungleboyj | DuncanT: Yep, they do. | 16:14 |
| jungleboyj | lhx_: Here | 16:14 |
| jungleboyj | #link https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJ8Koy4gsISMy0qW3CWZmaQ/videos | 16:14 |
| lhx_ | jungleboyj, thanks :) | 16:14 |
| jungleboyj | lhx_: Welcome. | 16:14 |
| Swanson | Like how many nodes are they using? | 16:14 |
| jungleboyj | 300k | 16:15 |
| jungleboyj | Swanson: Cores | 16:15 |
| jgriffith | :) | 16:15 |
| Swanson | Neato. | 16:15 |
| tbarron | with lvm, right? | 16:15 |
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| jungleboyj | tbarron: Ha ha. CEPH. | 16:15 |
| jgriffith | jungleboyj: and *others* | 16:15 |
| jungleboyj | jgriffith: You know what the others are? | 16:16 |
| jgriffith | and that's not 200K cores of cinder BTW :) | 16:16 |
| jgriffith | jungleboyj: some | 16:16 |
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| jgriffith | predominantly ceph | 16:16 |
| jungleboyj | jgriffith: Right, that is compute. I am not sure how many storage nodes the have. They just talking in PB of storage. | 16:16 |
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| jungleboyj | Anyway, jgriffith or smcginnis have anything to add from the summit? | 16:17 |
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| jungleboyj | *crickets* | 16:18 |
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| smcginnis | No, not really. Some good feedback sessions with operators, but nothing too noteworthy at this point. | 16:18 |
| Swanson | Anyone have a vegimite sandwich? | 16:18 |
| smcginnis | Some discussion of LTS releases going on. Or something along the lines of an LTS concepts. | 16:18 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: Ok. Cool. | 16:19 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: Yeah, I have seen that there is now a mail list thread on that. | 16:19 |
| jungleboyj | Will be interested to see where that goes. | 16:19 |
| jungleboyj | Swanson: I didn't. Had Crocodile and Kangaroo though. | 16:20 |
| jungleboyj | #topic Update on Multi-attach after the Summit Session: | 16:20 |
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| Swanson | jungleboyj, Typical McDonalds, then. | 16:20 |
| smcginnis | Anyone interested in the LTS proposals, brainstorming is being done here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/LTS-proposal | 16:20 |
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| jungleboyj | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/sydney-cinder-nova-cp-multi-attach | 16:20 |
| smcginnis | Mackies in Australia. And Burger King is Hungry Jacks. | 16:21 |
| jungleboyj | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/LTS-proposal | 16:21 |
| jungleboyj | Had a relatively well attended session on Multi-attach. | 16:21 |
| jungleboyj | Unfortunately there were not so many Operators there. | 16:22 |
| jungleboyj | We presented what the design of Multi-attach currently is and didn't get negative feedback. | 16:22 |
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| jungleboyj | Agreement that we need good documentation as to how it works and would should/should not be done. | 16:23 |
| jungleboyj | Agreement that boot from volume volumes will be read-only. | 16:23 |
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| jungleboyj | There was also discussion of a problem where you can attach the same volume to the same instance multiple times even when multi-attach is set to false. | 16:24 |
| jungleboyj | The problem is due to code that needs to be in place for live migration. | 16:25 |
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| jungleboyj | Nova team is planning to hack in a fix for Queens to avoid the problem and in the future we may need to find a better solution. | 16:25 |
| jungleboyj | Long story short, we are continuing to make good forward progress and no one at the sessions seemed to have notable concerns. | 16:26 |
| jungleboyj | I think that was all that was of interest there. | 16:26 |
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| jungleboyj | #topic Open Discussion | 16:27 |
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| jungleboyj | One other thing. We did have an office hours session at the Summit. | 16:27 |
| jungleboyj | I had a chance to chat with aspiers about the Storage Based Death approach for HA / Fencing of nodes. | 16:28 |
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| jungleboyj | I helped provide some education on how Cinder works. Think they had some bad assumptions. | 16:28 |
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| jungleboyj | What they are thinking for SBD definitely would not work for all storage backends. | 16:29 |
| jungleboyj | They were going back to think about it more. Something like Table Based Death using the database might be more realistic to work. | 16:29 |
| smcginnis | Oh, I also wanted to mention the bugsmash is next week. | 16:30 |
| smcginnis | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-October/123854.html | 16:30 |
| jungleboyj | As we talked about it, however, I am not totally convinced that we can gain much from it. | 16:30 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: Oh, that is good to know. | 16:30 |
| smcginnis | Cores, and really anyone who can help with reviews, please try to help look at those patches. | 16:30 |
| smcginnis | Something to do while you're half comatose on the couch after turkey fest. | 16:31 |
| tommylikehu | yeah | 16:31 |
| jungleboyj | Do we have anyone from Cinder participating? | 16:31 |
| smcginnis | tommylikehu: Are you going to attend that? | 16:31 |
| tommylikehu | I will | 16:31 |
| smcginnis | Great! | 16:31 |
| jungleboyj | Great1 | 16:32 |
| jungleboyj | tommylikehu: Please feel free to ping me as if there are reviews that need attention so that we can help make the bug smash productive. | 16:32 |
| tommylikehu | jungleboyj: lol, the messages would keep coming at midnight:) | 16:33 |
| jungleboyj | Thursday and Friday next week are a US holiday but I was planning to stay somewhat available. | 16:33 |
| jungleboyj | tommylikehu: :-) I am used to it. | 16:33 |
| jungleboyj | Any other topics for Open Discussion? | 16:34 |
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| jungleboyj | I guess related to the Bug Smash, does anyone have bugs that would be appropriate for the bug smash to address? | 16:35 |
| jgriffith | jungleboyj: yes | 16:35 |
| jungleboyj | jgriffith: Cool. We had put together a list for the last bugsmash. | 16:35 |
| jgriffith | jungleboyj: cool, I'll find it and add it to the list | 16:36 |
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| jungleboyj | jgriffith: That would be great. | 16:36 |
| jgriffith | https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1732223 | 16:37 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1732223 in Cinder "cinder-manage volume delete doesn't work due to rpc versioning error" [Undecided,New] | 16:37 |
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| jungleboyj | jgriffith: Unfortunately I don't have it in my list of etherpads. We put it together at the end of the Boston summit. | 16:37 |
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| jungleboyj | I will go back and see if I can find where we put that list and send a note out to the mailing list. | 16:38 |
| smcginnis | jungleboyj: Weren't we just tagging possible bugs with "bugsmash" or something like that? | 16:38 |
| jungleboyj | Hmmm, that does sound familiar. :-) | 16:38 |
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| jungleboyj | I will follow up on that and send a note to the ML. | 16:40 |
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| jungleboyj | smcginnis: Yep, looks like that is what we did. We still have 11 with that tag. | 16:41 |
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| jungleboyj | Just added jgriffith 's | 16:42 |
| jungleboyj | So, if anyone else has candidates, please add that tag. | 16:42 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: Thanks for that topic! | 16:43 |
| jungleboyj | Anything else from anyone? | 16:43 |
| jungleboyj | I will take that as a no and we can wrap the meeting up early. | 16:43 |
| jungleboyj | I am guessing a lot of people in the US will be on vacation next Wednesday, but lets still plan to meet for those who can make it. | 16:44 |
| jungleboyj | Oh and incentive to get to Dublin, I finally have the new Cinder stickers! | 16:45 |
| smcginnis | Woohoo | 16:45 |
| jungleboyj | Class up your laptop with horse's ... | 16:45 |
| jungleboyj | backend. | 16:45 |
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| jungleboyj | On that note ... | 16:46 |
| jungleboyj | #endmeeting cinder | 16:46 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 16:46 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 15 16:46:23 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:46 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2017/cinder.2017-11-15-16.00.html | 16:46 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2017/cinder.2017-11-15-16.00.txt | 16:46 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2017/cinder.2017-11-15-16.00.log.html | 16:46 |
| smcginnis | Thanks! | 16:46 |
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| bh526r | #startmeeting gluon | 19:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 15 19:00:46 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bh526r. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: gluon)" | 19:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'gluon' | 19:00 |
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| bh526r | I just realized that I have messed up time. | 19:01 |
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| bh526r | It should be 18:00 UTC | 19:01 |
| bh526r | It was 11am PDT, but now it should be 10am PST | 19:01 |
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| jinli | hi Bin | 19:02 |
| bh526r | Sorry that I joined at wrong time - 11am PST which is 19:00 UTC | 19:02 |
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| bh526r | Hi Jin | 19:02 |
| bh526r | glad you are here | 19:02 |
| jinli | meeting always at 11:00, right? | 19:02 |
| bh526r | Actually it is 18:00UTC | 19:03 |
| jinli | oh, ok | 19:03 |
| jinli | other countries don't have winter time | 19:03 |
| jinli | I see | 19:03 |
| bh526r | as listed in | 19:03 |
| bh526r | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/#Gluon_Meeting | 19:03 |
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| bh526r | So both of us messed up the time now :) | 19:04 |
| bh526r | which is good, and we meet at the same time | 19:04 |
| bh526r | #topic Roll Call | 19:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roll Call (Meeting topic: gluon)" | 19:04 | |
| bh526r | #info Bin Hu | 19:04 |
| bh526r | #info Jin Li | 19:05 |
| bh526r | #topic Update | 19:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Update (Meeting topic: gluon)" | 19:05 | |
| bh526r | #info Bin attended OpenStack Summit. Many good topics on container, edge cloud, 5G etc. | 19:05 |
| bh526r | sorry Jin that I didn't review your code in time. | 19:06 |
| jinli | that's ok | 19:06 |
| bh526r | I will try to do it this week. | 19:06 |
| bh526r | what is your holiday plan? | 19:06 |
| jinli | I have a new patch, which may explains why you can't find you sqlite file | 19:06 |
| bh526r | that's great | 19:06 |
| jinli | don't know about my holiday plan yet, I am planning to move some of my vocations to next year | 19:07 |
| jinli | want to visit China for a month from mid Mar to mid Apr | 19:07 |
| jinli | 2018 | 19:07 |
| bh526r | I see. But you still need to use it by 03/31 next year, right? | 19:07 |
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| jinli | yes | 19:07 |
| jinli | I am thinking moving 10 days from this year | 19:08 |
| bh526r | Just try to figure out what exactly policy is. so that I can also plan accordingly | 19:08 |
| bh526r | That's good. where will you visit in China? | 19:08 |
| jinli | I still have maybe 8 days, which I am planning to use in Christmos | 19:08 |
| bh526r | That's great | 19:08 |
| jinli | Beijing, ShangHai, and Canton | 19:09 |
| bh526r | cool. your relatives? or just as tourist? | 19:09 |
| jinli | never went back since I came here 20 yr ago | 19:09 |
| bh526r | Canton? Guangzhou? | 19:09 |
| jinli | so want to spend couple more days :) | 19:09 |
| jinli | yes, I am from Guangdong | 19:10 |
| bh526r | That's nice. | 19:10 |
| jinli | close by Guangzhou | 19:10 |
| bh526r | Cool. I am from Jiangsu | 19:10 |
| jinli | come back there often | 19:10 |
| bh526r | No, every 4-5 years | 19:11 |
| bh526r | But I just visited them this summer | 19:11 |
| jinli | nice | 19:11 |
| jinli | how long you stayed there? | 19:12 |
| bh526r | 2 weeks | 19:12 |
| jinli | Hot ? | 19:12 |
| bh526r | yes, record hot this summer | 19:12 |
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| jinli | Lol | 19:12 |
| bh526r | Even if I grew up there, I felt very hot. | 19:13 |
| bh526r | I am spoiled by the weather in bay area | 19:13 |
| jinli | yeah.... haha.. | 19:13 |
| bh526r | let me find time to review it this week. | 19:13 |
| jinli | that's why I choose Mar | 19:13 |
| jinli | ok | 19:13 |
| jinli | so I will be out for black Fri and the last couple days of Dec. | 19:13 |
| bh526r | That's smart choice | 19:14 |
| jinli | another Question | 19:14 |
| bh526r | or, do you want to come down to south bay early next week? | 19:14 |
| jinli | sure, | 19:14 |
| jinli | I can do that | 19:14 |
| jinli | I also want to know if we have code to use Mysql for database | 19:14 |
| bh526r | do you mean gluon code? perhaps not | 19:15 |
| jinli | I know we have sqlite | 19:15 |
| jinli | ok, I can work on that also | 19:15 |
| bh526r | some other projects, e.g. Neutron, may have code for MySql | 19:15 |
| bh526r | that's good. I will record it on the task sheet. | 19:16 |
| jinli | oh, so we want to use Neutron's db | 19:16 |
| jinli | ? | 19:16 |
| bh526r | we can discuss more details when we meet in person | 19:16 |
| jinli | sure | 19:16 |
| jinli | let me know what day you want | 19:16 |
| jinli | to meet | 19:16 |
| bh526r | how does your calendar or schedule look like? | 19:17 |
| jinli | any day/time should be ok for me | 19:17 |
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| bh526r | Wednesday is the best for me. But it is the day before Thanksgiving, so traffic for you may be bad | 19:18 |
| jinli | ok, Wed works | 19:18 |
| bh526r | we can cancel the IRC meeting then | 19:19 |
| jinli | Ok | 19:19 |
| bh526r | The best location for you may be Menlo Park (ON Lab). | 19:19 |
| jinli | I will meet you around 10 | 19:20 |
| jinli | ok | 19:20 |
| jinli | I can meet you in lib | 19:20 |
| jinli | lab | 19:20 |
| bh526r | Let me check if they have room available (or if the office is still open) | 19:20 |
| jinli | but you mya need to send me address | 19:20 |
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| bh526r | That's right. Let me check with them first. If they are open on Wednesday, I will send you the address. | 19:21 |
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| jinli | ok | 19:21 |
| jinli | sounds good | 19:21 |
| bh526r | If they are not open, next is Milpitas, which I have access too | 19:21 |
| bh526r | So let me check with Menlo Park first, then I will let you know. | 19:22 |
| jinli | ok | 19:22 |
| bh526r | sounds good. | 19:22 |
| bh526r | anything else? | 19:22 |
| jinli | that's all from me | 19:22 |
| bh526r | great. | 19:22 |
| bh526r | #info Bin and Jin will meet next week to review code | 19:23 |
| bh526r | #topic AOB | 19:23 |
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| bh526r | #info IRC meeting on Nov 22 next Wednesday will be canceled to observe Thanksgiving holiday week | 19:23 |
| bh526r | #info Meeting adjourned | 19:24 |
| bh526r | #endmeeting | 19:24 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 19:24 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 15 19:24:11 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:24 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/gluon/2017/gluon.2017-11-15-19.00.html | 19:24 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/gluon/2017/gluon.2017-11-15-19.00.txt | 19:24 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/gluon/2017/gluon.2017-11-15-19.00.log.html | 19:24 |
| bh526r | Thank you Jin, and see you next week | 19:24 |
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| jinli | thanks see you | 19:24 |
| SotK | anyone here for the storyboard meeting? | 19:24 |
| Zara | HI | 19:24 |
| SotK | #startmeeting storyboard | 19:24 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Nov 15 19:24:59 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SotK. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:25 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:25 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: storyboard)" | 19:25 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'storyboard' | 19:25 |
| SotK | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/StoryBoard Agenda | 19:25 |
| SotK | somewhat outdated because I failed to update it just now | 19:25 |
| SotK | #topic In Progress Work | 19:25 |
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| SotK | I sent a patch to replace marked with markdown-it, since the latter is actually maintained | 19:26 |
| SotK | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/518625/ | 19:26 |
| Zara | oh no I was typing the link! :D | 19:27 |
| Zara | yes that is on my todo list for reviewing this week, please poke me if I don't get to it by fri | 19:27 |
| SotK | ok then, thanks | 19:27 |
| Zara | I was going to check the js draft build, but that's currently broken, SotK sent a patch to fix the issue: | 19:27 |
| Zara | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/518626/ | 19:28 |
| Zara | in general that will make it quicker to review webclient patches again | 19:28 |
| Zara | i've definitely been slow on those | 19:28 |
| SotK | thanks for the review fungi :) | 19:28 |
| SotK | I'll reply on gerrit later | 19:28 |
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| Zara | this is still hovering: | 19:29 |
| Zara | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/506812/ | 19:29 |
| Zara | my current position is that I want it merged in some form before the next team is ready to migrate, even though I'd rather a cgit link | 19:30 |
| Zara | since I think their need for the info will outweigh the other considerations there | 19:30 |
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| * SotK agrees with fungi's comment, but can see the need to have it merged in some form soon | 19:31 | |
| Zara | yeah, I haven't seen a lot of movement on it in the release team, though I agree that'd be best | 19:31 |
| Zara | not sure who the best person would be to ask about that | 19:32 |
| fungi | well, also relevant is smcginnis's comment, wherein he points out that the releases repo readme is not intended as a reference | 19:32 |
| fungi | so sort of like calling private methods in a library, it's subject to being broken at a moment's notice | 19:33 |
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| fungi | i'm inclined to consider heavily any comment from the release ptl stating that the releases repo readme isn't a reference | 19:34 |
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| fungi | it would probably help to follow up and find out whether that section should be relocated to something published to the releases site or the project teams guide | 19:35 |
| Zara | sure, it would be better if we could get it documented somewhere more permanent | 19:36 |
| SotK | that seems likely to be the best way to making it into something mergable I think | 19:36 |
| SotK | to be clear, I can see the need to have it merged, but I don't want to merge it as-is | 19:36 |
| Zara | I still generally lean toward preferring a liable-to-break reference over none, but I don't want to cause trouble for the releases team | 19:37 |
| Zara | if the worry is that people will complain to them should it get broken when they didn't make a guarantee of supporting it | 19:37 |
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| fungi | i'm mostly just not keen to have official documentation linking to something the release managers don't want linked as documentation | 19:38 |
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| fungi | if for no other reason than it's best not to get on their bad side ;) | 19:38 |
| smcginnis | Hey, just reading scrollback and trying to remember that patch... | 19:39 |
| Zara | oh sure, I don't want to tread on toes. :D I just foresee us ending up making some other even more unofficial documentation otherwise | 19:39 |
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| smcginnis | So I'm OK with linking to the README. Just think it might be good if we documented that somewhere better. | 19:40 |
| Zara | (we already have a bad habit of leaving doclike things in paste.openstack.org too long) | 19:40 |
| smcginnis | To be fair, the README isn't likely to change, so it would be safe enough. | 19:40 |
| Zara | if there's a better option I could make a patch for it, not sure where would be best? | 19:41 |
| smcginnis | Zara: I think it might be best to add a section to the release-management section of the project team guide. | 19:41 |
| Zara | okay :) | 19:42 |
| Zara | it's partly been stuck so long because I've been pretty distracted so I think it's on me to get it moving | 19:42 |
| fungi | right, the other (related) concern with 506812 is that if the sb docs _do_ link to the readme then what's actually desired is linking to a section heading of an html-rendered version of the wiki, and the proposed patch attempts to abuse github's interface to that end | 19:43 |
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| fungi | er, s/wiki/readme/ | 19:43 |
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| * fungi has wikibrain at the moment apparently | 19:44 | |
| Zara | :D | 19:44 |
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| Zara | my brain is fried, sorry. I see now that that doesn't seem to have section headings yet? (the project team guide) | 19:45 |
| Zara | well, linkable ones | 19:45 |
| fungi | at any rate, i similarly don't want to be linking to gh copies of openstack repos, nor treating it as a makeshift documentation publishing platform | 19:45 |
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| Zara | +1 | 19:45 |
| fungi | Zara: which page are you looking at? | 19:46 |
| fungi | if you hover over a subheading in a page you should see a paragraph mark appear to the right which is clickable | 19:46 |
| Zara | oh I was failing to use dashes instead of underscores | 19:46 |
| Zara | I didn't see the paragraph mark but they do have ids | 19:47 |
| Zara | I was looking at: https://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/release-management.html | 19:47 |
| Zara | and saw no paragraph mark, but source suggests it has ids so ignore me | 19:47 |
| SotK | hm, I see the paragraph mark on that page | 19:47 |
| fungi | you have to hover to the immediate right of the end of the heading for the ΒΆ to appear | 19:48 |
| fungi | basically a hidden character that changes to a visible color on hover | 19:48 |
| Zara | aha my mouse was too far to the right | 19:48 |
| fungi | secret sphinx features ;) | 19:49 |
| SotK | :) | 19:49 |
| Zara | either I've used it before somewhere but with a wider area or I'm imagining that | 19:50 |
| SotK | anyway, I will be happy to +2 a patch which links to the needed content on that page | 19:50 |
| Zara | cool | 19:51 |
| SotK | but likely will not +2 a patch which links to github in the meantime, since I don't want to forget about it | 19:51 |
| fungi | similarly, i'll be happy to +2 the corresponding addition to the project team guide | 19:51 |
| SotK | \o/ | 19:52 |
| Zara | thanks | 19:52 |
| Zara | now I just have to do things | 19:52 |
| SotK | thanks fungi and Zara | 19:52 |
| SotK | (and smcginnis) | 19:52 |
| fungi | so many things | 19:52 |
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| SotK | anything else in progress that needs discussion? | 19:53 |
| SotK | #topic Open Discussion | 19:54 |
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| Zara | oh, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/510669/ is still in review | 19:57 |
| Zara | I completely forgot about that | 19:57 |
| Zara | (docs on manually upgrading a sb instance) | 19:58 |
| SotK | heh, me too | 19:58 |
| Zara | :D | 19:58 |
| SotK | do you have time to add that to your list? | 19:58 |
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| SotK | -> #storyboard | 20:00 |
| SotK | #endmeeting | 20:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Nov 15 20:00:05 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/2017/storyboard.2017-11-15-19.24.html | 20:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/2017/storyboard.2017-11-15-19.24.txt | 20:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/2017/storyboard.2017-11-15-19.24.log.html | 20:00 |
| SotK | thanks folk | 20:00 |
| Zara | thanks | 20:00 |
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