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| hongbin | #startmeeting zun | 03:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue Oct 24 03:00:18 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is hongbin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 03:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 03:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: zun)" | 03:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'zun' | 03:00 |
| hongbin | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Zun#Agenda_for_2017-10-24_0300_UTC agenda | 03:00 |
| hongbin | #topic Roll Call | 03:00 |
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| kevinz | o/ | 03:00 |
| kiennt26 | o/ | 03:01 |
| hongbin | thanks for joining the meeting kevinz kiennt26 | 03:02 |
| hongbin | kevinz: kiennt26 there are not too much people today, let's have a short updates for each other, then end the meeting shortly | 03:02 |
| Shunli | shunli | 03:03 |
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| hongbin | hi Shunli | 03:03 |
| hongbin | #topic Cinder integration (hongbin) | 03:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Cinder integration (hongbin) (Meeting topic: zun)" | 03:03 | |
| hongbin | for this topic, there are a few patches that are under reviews: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/zun+branch:master+topic:bp/direct-cinder-integration | 03:03 |
| hongbin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/zun+branch:master+topic:bp/direct-cinder-integration | 03:03 |
| hongbin | kiennt26: i believe you have tested these series of patches ? | 03:04 |
| hongbin | kiennt26: if you did, welcome to cast your votes into the patches :) | 03:04 |
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| hongbin | #topic Introduce container composition (kevinz) | 03:04 |
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| kiennt26 | hongbin: yes, sure. I will do :) | 03:04 |
| hongbin | kiennt26: thanks | 03:05 |
| hongbin | kevinz: any update from you about the capsule topic ? | 03:05 |
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| kevinz | I'm still working on writing a demo for k8s-connector | 03:05 |
| hongbin | kevinz: ack | 03:05 |
| kevinz | I have one question | 03:05 |
| hongbin | go ahead | 03:06 |
| kevinz | how to get the whole capabilities or resource of zun cluster? | 03:06 |
| kevinz | E.g: the CPU, the memory, the status. | 03:06 |
| hongbin | it is stored in compute-node table ? | 03:07 |
| kevinz | OK I will check | 03:07 |
| kevinz | I need a whole resource list, total compute-nodes | 03:07 |
| hongbin | for status, each zun-compute will heartbeat in each 10 second i remembered | 03:07 |
| kevinz | OK | 03:07 |
| hongbin | yes, it seems the compute-nodes table is what you need | 03:08 |
| hongbin | #topic NFV use cases (lakerzhou, Shunli) | 03:08 |
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| hongbin | Shunli: i think shunli has uploaded most of the patches for PCI passthrough | 03:09 |
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| hongbin | with the pci scheduler filter, everything are working very well | 03:09 |
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| Shunli | pci tracker and pci request is under review and need review. | 03:09 |
| hongbin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/508025/ | 03:10 |
| hongbin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/512230/ | 03:10 |
| hongbin | thanks Shunli | 03:10 |
| Shunli | the all patch for pci passthrough in zun side is ready. | 03:10 |
| hongbin | yes :) | 03:10 |
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| Shunli | i cannot spend much time on zun this week. | 03:11 |
| hongbin | Shunli: ack, that is fine | 03:11 |
| hongbin | Shunli: thanks for all your hard work for porting the pci features to zun | 03:11 |
| kevinz | Shunli: Thanks | 03:11 |
| hongbin | #topic Open Discussion | 03:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: zun)" | 03:11 | |
| Shunli | hongbin: np, my pleasure. | 03:12 |
| hongbin | anything else to bring up for discussion ? | 03:12 |
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| hongbin | ok, all, thanks for joining the meeting, see you next team | 03:12 |
| hongbin | next time | 03:12 |
| hongbin | #endmeeting | 03:13 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Oct 24 03:13:00 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 03:13 |
| kiennt26 | see you | 03:13 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zun/2017/zun.2017-10-24-03.00.html | 03:13 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zun/2017/zun.2017-10-24-03.00.txt | 03:13 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zun/2017/zun.2017-10-24-03.00.log.html | 03:13 |
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| tpatil | Hi | 04:00 |
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| tpatil | Today Sampath is busy, so I will chair today's Masakari meeting | 04:02 |
| tpatil | ping masakari team | 04:02 |
| Dinesh_Bhor | tpatil: okay | 04:02 |
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| tpatil | Dinesh_Bhor: Let's wait for few more people to join the meeting | 04:04 |
| Dinesh_Bhor | tpatil: yes, sure | 04:04 |
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| abhishekk | o/ | 04:04 |
| tpatil | Hi all | 04:05 |
| rkmrHonjo | hi | 04:05 |
| tpatil | #startmeeting Masakari | 04:05 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Oct 24 04:05:09 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tpatil. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 04:05 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 04:05 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'masakari' | 04:05 |
| niraj_singh | hi | 04:05 |
| tpatil | Let me check today's agenda | 04:05 |
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| tpatil | #topic High Priority Items | 04:05 |
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| tpatil | there will be project on boarding forum session in Sydney summit on Monday | 04:06 |
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| tpatil | I will check with Sampath and see what things to discuss during this session | 04:07 |
| tpatil | Moving to next item | 04:07 |
| tpatil | #topic Bugs | 04:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: Masakari)" | 04:07 | |
| tpatil | Anyone wants to discuss any bugs here | 04:08 |
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| tpatil | I don't see any critical or blocker bugs | 04:08 |
| rkmrHonjo | Please wait... | 04:09 |
| rkmrHonjo | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/513299/ | 04:09 |
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| rkmrHonjo | Above patch is very simple, please review it if you can. (But, this is not critical.) | 04:10 |
| tpatil | rkmrHonjo: Sure | 04:11 |
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| rkmrHonjo | tpatil: thanks. | 04:11 |
| tpatil | rkmrHonjo: If you don't specify service user and service name, does it cause any problems? | 04:12 |
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| tpatil | rkmrHonjo: Just trying to understand the severity of this bug | 04:13 |
| rkmrHonjo | tpatil: I heard that it causes problems about nova API microversion in some environments. | 04:13 |
| rkmrHonjo | tpatil: ok. | 04:13 |
| tpatil | rkmrHonjo: Will appreciate if you can add details on the LP bug about the problems you are facing if these parameters are not passed | 04:14 |
| rkmrHonjo | tpatil: ok, I'll add details. | 04:15 |
| tpatil | rkmrHonjo: Thanks | 04:15 |
| tpatil | Any other bugs to be discussed? | 04:16 |
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| tpatil | Moving to the next topic | 04:16 |
| tpatil | #topic Discussion Points | 04:16 |
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| tpatil | Horizon plugin | 04:17 |
| tpatil | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/masakari/+spec/masakari-dashboard | 04:17 |
| tpatil | The ^^ blueprint was approved by Sampath in the last week | 04:17 |
| tpatil | Niraj will a submit patch to create a new repo "masakari-dashboard" | 04:18 |
| niraj_singh | yes | 04:18 |
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| rkmrHonjo | Great! | 04:19 |
| tpatil | Should we use same launchpad project "masakari" to manage masakari-dashboard project? | 04:19 |
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| tpatil | #startvote Should we use same launchpad project "masakari" to manage masakari-dashboard project? Yes, No | 04:21 |
| openstack | Begin voting on: Should we use same launchpad project "masakari" to manage masakari-dashboard project? Valid vote options are Yes, No. | 04:21 |
| openstack | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | 04:21 |
| tpatil | please cast your vote | 04:21 |
| tpatil | #vote Yes | 04:21 |
| rkmrHonjo | #vote yes | 04:21 |
| Dinesh_Bhor | #vote Yes | 04:22 |
| abhishekk | #vote Yes | 04:22 |
| Dinesh_Bhor | Mistral guys are also doing the same for mistral-dashboard | 04:22 |
| tpatil | Dinesh_Bhor: Ok, thanks for the information. | 04:22 |
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| rkmrHonjo | (I knew this vote feature for the first time...) | 04:23 |
| tpatil | Will check Sampath's opinion as well and then Niraj will do the needful | 04:23 |
| niraj_singh | tpatil: ok | 04:24 |
| tpatil | rkmrHonjo: You can read this for more details: https://docs.openstack.org/infra/system-config/irc.html#voting | 04:24 |
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| tpatil | Install Guide document | 04:24 |
| tpatil | There are few comments on install guide patches | 04:25 |
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| abhishekk | yes | 04:25 |
| tpatil | abhishekk: please address these comments | 04:26 |
| abhishekk | tpatil: ok | 04:26 |
| tpatil | I think we should get these patches merged before the summit | 04:26 |
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| tpatil | abhishekk: Thank you | 04:26 |
| tpatil | Recovery method customization | 04:27 |
| Dinesh_Bhor | I am modifying the spec for this. | 04:27 |
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| tpatil | Last time, we decided to update specs to allow operators to configure different drivers for processing each notification type | 04:28 |
| tpatil | Dinesh_Bhor: Ok | 04:28 |
| tpatil | Find hosts without specifying segments | 04:28 |
| tpatil | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/506986/ | 04:29 |
| tpatil | Sampath suggested another solution to get segment from host | 04:29 |
| tpatil | I think his suggestion is doable | 04:30 |
| tpatil | rkmkHonjo: What do you think? | 04:30 |
| rkmrHonjo | tpatil: Yes, Takahara is rewriting spec according to Sampath's opinion. | 04:30 |
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| rkmrHonjo | So, please wait a little more. | 04:31 |
| tpatil | rkmrHonjo: Ok | 04:31 |
| tpatil | Queens work items | 04:31 |
| tpatil | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/masakari-queens-workitems | 04:31 |
| tpatil | I have marked ssl support for masakari api service as completed | 04:32 |
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| tpatil | Anyone wants to discuss any items from this etherpad? | 04:32 |
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| tpatil | Moving to the next item | 04:33 |
| tpatil | BM HA (ironic + nova) | 04:33 |
| tpatil | Sampath is not present, so let's skip this item | 04:34 |
| tpatil | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/449155/ | 04:34 |
| tpatil | Above patch review is in progress | 04:34 |
| tpatil | OpenStack Proposal Bot updates | 04:35 |
| tpatil | rkmrHonjo: Do you have any updates? | 04:35 |
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| rkmrHonjo | no. | 04:36 |
| rkmrHonjo | ah, sorry, above "no" is mistake. | 04:36 |
| tpatil | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/510760/ | 04:37 |
| tpatil | ^^ patch is abandoned by you | 04:37 |
| tpatil | as oslo.context 2.19.1 is blocked | 04:37 |
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| rkmrHonjo | Yes. In current global-requirement, oslo.context 2.19.1 is blocked. So this patch is unnecessary. | 04:37 |
| tpatil | rkmrHonjo: Ok | 04:38 |
| rkmrHonjo | So I think that we can merge "Updated from global requirements" patch. | 04:38 |
| rkmrHonjo | By the way, Ben Nemec submitted two patches for removing version cap of oslo.context. | 04:39 |
| rkmrHonjo | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/513500/ | 04:39 |
| rkmrHonjo | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/513520/ | 04:39 |
| tpatil | I will approve patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/513500/1 later today | 04:42 |
| tpatil | #topic AOB | 04:42 |
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| tpatil | Migrate from LP to Storyboard | 04:43 |
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| tpatil | I have no updates about this item | 04:43 |
| tpatil | Anyone interested to take up this task? | 04:44 |
| tpatil | I think it's priority is low | 04:44 |
| rkmrHonjo | I think so, too. | 04:45 |
| Dinesh_Bhor | tpatil: I will check this. | 04:45 |
| tpatil | Dinesh_Bhor: Thanks | 04:45 |
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| tpatil | Anyone wants to bring up any other topic? | 04:47 |
| rkmrHonjo | no. | 04:48 |
| tpatil | If no, let's end this meeting | 04:48 |
| Dinesh_Bhor | nothing from my side, thanks | 04:48 |
| tpatil | Thank you everyone for joining this meeting | 04:48 |
| rkmrHonjo | thank you for all! | 04:49 |
| tpatil | #endmeeting | 04:49 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Oct 24 04:49:05 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 04:49 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/masakari/2017/masakari.2017-10-24-04.05.html | 04:49 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/masakari/2017/masakari.2017-10-24-04.05.txt | 04:49 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/masakari/2017/masakari.2017-10-24-04.05.log.html | 04:49 |
| rkmrHonjo | Bye... | 04:49 |
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| chenying_ | #startmeeting karbor | 09:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Oct 24 09:02:59 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is chenying_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 09:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:03 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'karbor' | 09:03 |
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| chenying_ | hi | 09:03 |
| jiaopengju | hi chenying_ | 09:03 |
| chenying_ | hi good afternoon | 09:03 |
| jiaopengju | :) | 09:03 |
| zhongjun | Hi chenying_ | 09:03 |
| chenying_ | hi zhongjun | 09:03 |
| chenying_ | #topic Open Discussion | 09:04 |
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| chenying_ | do you have anything want to discuss ? | 09:05 |
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| jiaopengju | image verification | 09:05 |
| xiangxinyong | hello | 09:05 |
| chenying_ | As we know the verification has been introduced to karbor. | 09:06 |
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| jiaopengju | chenying_: yes. If we want do the verification about images, we may need store the md5 of image chunks | 09:07 |
| chenying_ | The verify action of some plugins is to check the status of backup or snapshot resources. | 09:07 |
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| chenying_ | The backup of images are saved to swift bank. so we may need consider checking the md5 | 09:09 |
| chenying_ | of images chunks. | 09:09 |
| jiaopengju01 | chenying_: This means we should add some new interfaces of the banks | 09:09 |
| chenying_ | does swift have a Ali to check the | 09:10 |
| chenying_ | md5 | 09:10 |
| chenying_ | of objects. | 09:10 |
| jiaopengju01 | yes | 09:10 |
| chenying_ | That is what I worry about, the new interfaces of banks may be needed. | 09:11 |
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| chenying_ | I worry about that it may bring lots of changes to bank interfaces. | 09:11 |
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| jiaopengju01 | yes. In fs bank, we may do md5sum in erery verification action | 09:13 |
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| jiaopengju01 | chenying_: swift and s3 bank can store the md5 value as part of the object. | 09:13 |
| chenying_ | jiaopengju could you please to write a spec about the verify action of images plugins. it can show the detail about the feature. | 09:14 |
| jiaopengju01 | chenying_: ok, I will write it | 09:15 |
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| chenying_ | Is there a solution that will not bring changes to bank interfaces. As we know, the bank nodule is a base module of karbor. If it has been changed, we need consider all existed bank plugins, and also need consider the plugins that want to be introduced. | 09:17 |
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| jiaopengju01 | chenying_: I will try to find out that | 09:18 |
| chenying_ | if you have any idea about it, we can discuss it in the karbor irc channel. | 09:19 |
| jiaopengju | chenying_: ok | 09:20 |
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| jiaopengju01 | ok | 09:20 |
| chenying_ | so next one ? | 09:22 |
| jiaopengju01 | ok | 09:22 |
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| chenying_ | The spec about protection parameters retention has been merged | 09:24 |
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| chenying_ | gengchangcai is not online | 09:24 |
| chenying_ | he now can continue the work about the feature. | 09:25 |
| jiaopengju01 | I have saw the patch about the feature (not spec) | 09:26 |
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| chenying_ | he need introduce a new protection type with retention parameters to operation engine service. | 09:28 |
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| jiaopengju01 | yes, this should be commented to the patch | 09:30 |
| chenying_ | so do you have any idea about it | 09:30 |
| chenying_ | ok we can ping him if hi is online. | 09:31 |
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| chenying_ | do you have any other thing want to discuss ? | 09:32 |
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| jiaopengju01 | I don't have | 09:33 |
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| chenying_ | so I will end this meeting. we can discuss any topic in karbor irc channel at any time. | 09:36 |
| jiaopengju | chenying_: ok | 09:36 |
| chenying_ | #endmeeting | 09:37 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Oct 24 09:37:15 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 09:37 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/karbor/2017/karbor.2017-10-24-09.02.html | 09:37 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/karbor/2017/karbor.2017-10-24-09.02.txt | 09:37 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/karbor/2017/karbor.2017-10-24-09.02.log.html | 09:37 |
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| ruijie | #startmeeting senlin | 13:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Oct 24 13:00:50 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ruijie. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: senlin)" | 13:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'senlin' | 13:00 |
| Qiming | evening | 13:01 |
| ruijie | evening Qiming | 13:01 |
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| ruijie | let's get started :) | 13:03 |
| ruijie | 1. about the Queens goal | 13:03 |
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| ruijie | the access policy had been done, I think | 13:04 |
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| Qiming | yep, good job | 13:04 |
| ruijie | yes, Qiming. Splitting tempest plugin, we now have the senlin-tempest-plugin project in gerrit | 13:05 |
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| Qiming | my understanding is that there must be some gate side job tunings following this split ? | 13:06 |
| ruijie | things changed a little bit as they are using new zuul | 13:07 |
| Qiming | I wasn't closely following the zuul upgrade thread | 13:08 |
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| ruijie | the network is not stable today~ cannot access to openstack.org .. | 13:09 |
| Qiming | possibly due to the great ccp meeting .... | 13:11 |
| Qiming | I have been suffering from network problem all day | 13:11 |
| ruijie | ya, the last day ~ | 13:11 |
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| ruijie | will check the zuul documentation later .. | 13:12 |
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| Qiming | based on this ... https://review.openstack.org/#/c/512996/ | 13:13 |
| Qiming | "legacy jobs" have been removed ... | 13:13 |
| Qiming | however, we still have gate jobs running for latest patches, e.g. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/514505/ | 13:14 |
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| Qiming | does this mean the migration to zuul v3 is done? | 13:14 |
| ruijie | for senlin itself, I think Andreas have helped migrate it to zuulv3 | 13:16 |
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| Qiming | okay ... | 13:16 |
| ruijie | I saw the job template was changed | 13:16 |
| ruijie | but the splitting job is not yet done :( | 13:17 |
| Qiming | the next thing is to leverage the new tempest plugin project for api/functional/integration tests? | 13:17 |
| Qiming | http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/project-config/tree/jenkins/jobs/senlin.yaml | 13:17 |
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| Qiming | job definitions are still all there | 13:17 |
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| Qiming | looks like we need to do something about it before we delete the senlin/tests/tempest directory | 13:18 |
| ruijie | yes Qiming, indeed. When I adding the senlin-tempest-plugin, I was told just add the job to zuul.d and zuul folder | 13:19 |
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| ruijie | hi XueFeng | 13:20 |
| XueFeng | hi ruijie | 13:20 |
| XueFeng | hi, all | 13:20 |
| Qiming | I'm trying to find a similar patch for reference | 13:20 |
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| ruijie | we are talking about the senlin-tempest-plugin XueFeng | 13:21 |
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| XueFeng | ok | 13:21 |
| ruijie | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/509098/14 this is the first patch for migration? | 13:22 |
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| Qiming | em this one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/504901/ | 13:23 |
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| Qiming | I'm not sure which pattern is the suggested way to go | 13:25 |
| Qiming | could be a combination of both | 13:25 |
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| Qiming | fix the senlin.yaml file for jobs to use senlin-tempest-plugin | 13:26 |
| Qiming | then move the content to the places expected by zuul v3 | 13:26 |
| ruijie | okay Qiming, that makes sense, will check it | 13:27 |
| Qiming | thx | 13:27 |
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| ruijie | the meetup, here is the agenda: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/senlin-queens-meetup | 13:29 |
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| ruijie | np Qiming :) | 13:29 |
| ruijie | we have two empty slots now :) | 13:29 |
| XueFeng | Looks good | 13:30 |
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| ruijie | hi XueFeng, would you like to share a topic | 13:31 |
| Qiming | what's your topic, XueFeng, :) | 13:31 |
| Qiming | ha | 13:31 |
| XueFeng | I will update to the link later | 13:33 |
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| ruijie | thanks XueFeng :) | 13:33 |
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| ruijie | will send a e-mail to everyone about the agenda | 13:34 |
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| XueFeng | I think can we use senlin to do OS/openstack upgrade? | 13:36 |
| ruijie | upgrade the service/software in server? | 13:37 |
| XueFeng | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/senlin/+spec/host-cluster | 13:37 |
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| XueFeng | run ansible shell by senlin node action | 13:39 |
| Qiming | ok | 13:39 |
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| XueFeng | Upgrade OS/openstack(config/db) is a huge topic | 13:41 |
| XueFeng | Senlin can provide the base famework | 13:41 |
| Qiming | sure | 13:41 |
| Qiming | love to see more use cases | 13:42 |
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| XueFeng | OK. I will update this idea tomorrow | 13:43 |
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| ruijie | do we have new topics to discuss today? | 13:47 |
| XueFeng | about Interaction Between Senlin and K8s | 13:49 |
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| Qiming | no from me | 13:51 |
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| XueFeng | I will talk with elynn, this will be a topic in Sydeny Summit | 13:51 |
| Qiming | yep | 13:52 |
| ruijie | sure XueFeng | 13:52 |
| ruijie | thanks for joining Gentlemen | 13:52 |
| XueFeng | ok | 13:53 |
| ruijie | good night :) | 13:53 |
| XueFeng | good night | 13:53 |
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| XueFeng | :) | 13:53 |
| ruijie | #endmeeting | 13:53 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Oct 24 13:53:23 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:53 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/senlin/2017/senlin.2017-10-24-13.00.html | 13:53 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/senlin/2017/senlin.2017-10-24-13.00.txt | 13:53 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/senlin/2017/senlin.2017-10-24-13.00.log.html | 13:53 |
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| jlibosva | #startmeeting networking | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Oct 24 14:00:26 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jlibosva. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| jlibosva | hi all | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: networking)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking' | 14:00 |
| mlavalle | o/ | 14:00 |
| haleyb | hi | 14:00 |
| jlibosva | #topic Announcements | 14:00 |
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| jlibosva | I see mlavalle has some announcements on wiki page :) nice. I'll copy & paste it here | 14:01 |
| jlibosva | If you are attending the Summit in Sydney, please register your name in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-sydney-summit-attendees. Team social event to be scheduled | 14:01 |
| jlibosva | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-sydney-summit-attendees | 14:01 |
| mlavalle | must likely Monday night | 14:01 |
| mlavalle | any opposition to that day? | 14:01 |
| jlibosva | the social event? | 14:01 |
| mlavalle | yeah | 14:01 |
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| jlibosva | maybe we could add it to the etherpad and people can suggest a day | 14:02 |
| mlavalle | right, will do | 14:02 |
| jlibosva | wow, I just realized that the summit date is getting pretty close :) | 14:03 |
| jlibosva | next announcement | 14:03 |
| jlibosva | Neutron team will be present in the Upstream Institute session in Sydney on Sunday 5th | 14:03 |
| mlavalle | I am the Neutron "mentor" for that session | 14:03 |
| mlavalle | if you are around, you are welcome to help | 14:03 |
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| slaweq | hello | 14:04 |
| jlibosva | I don't have a schedule yet but if I'm available, I'll come | 14:04 |
| mlavalle | ++ | 14:04 |
| jlibosva | next one | 14:04 |
| jlibosva | Neutron will have a new contributors on-boarding session during Summit. Day and time yet to be defined | 14:04 |
| mlavalle | we have secured a room for the session | 14:04 |
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| mlavalle | waiting to hear back from the Foundation day and time | 14:05 |
| mlavalle | again, if you are available, com and say hello to the newbies | 14:05 |
| jlibosva | :) | 14:05 |
| jlibosva | another announcement: there were TC elections and we have results | 14:06 |
| jlibosva | #link https://governance.openstack.org/election/results/queens/tc.html | 14:06 |
| jlibosva | any other announcements to make? | 14:07 |
| mlavalle | not from me | 14:07 |
| amotoki | have Q-1 been cut? | 14:07 |
| mlavalle | the patchset is still lingering around | 14:07 |
| mlavalle | so not yet | 14:08 |
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| mlavalle | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/512432/ | 14:09 |
| amotoki | thanks. every team is waiting for the release job in shape :) | 14:09 |
| mlavalle | yeap | 14:09 |
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| jlibosva | so is there anything no our side we can do or it's just CI not voting correctly? | 14:09 |
| mlavalle | as far as I can tell it is not on our side | 14:10 |
| jlibosva | ok, thanks | 14:10 |
| jlibosva | I think we can move on then | 14:10 |
| jlibosva | #topic Blueprints | 14:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Blueprints (Meeting topic: networking)" | 14:10 | |
| jlibosva | so as per plan, we're supposed to be in q2 now | 14:10 |
| mlavalle | correct | 14:11 |
| jlibosva | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/queens | 14:11 |
| jlibosva | the link above reminds me how slow I am in reviewing the logging API patches | 14:11 |
| mlavalle | I worked earlier today on updating this https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/queens-1 | 14:12 |
| mlavalle | I left the blueprints still marked for Q-1 for the team to see what was left | 14:12 |
| jlibosva | mlavalle: I suppose those q1 marked BPs are going to flip into q2, right? | 14:12 |
| mlavalle | correct | 14:12 |
| mlavalle | I just wanted to higlight where we need to focus | 14:12 |
| mlavalle | amotoki: how are we doing with https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/neutron-in-tree-api-ref? | 14:13 |
| mlavalle | is it moving to Q-2? | 14:13 |
| amotoki | mlavalle: I am thinking this can be completed and the remaining thing should be converted into bugs | 14:14 |
| hoangcx_ | jlibosva: yeah. It is remain 2 logging's patches are waiting for you :-) | 14:14 |
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| mlavalle | amotoki: are you filing the bugs? | 14:14 |
| amotoki | mlavalle: yes, of course | 14:14 |
| jlibosva | hoangcx_: I keep that in mind, I just had some fire that needed to be extinguished :) | 14:14 |
| hoangcx_ | jlibosva: Thank you very much ;) | 14:15 |
| mlavalle | amotoki: ok, so I'll mark that blueprint as complete :-) | 14:15 |
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| mlavalle | hoangcx_: my goal over the next couple of days is to take alook again at the rpc and DB patchset | 14:16 |
| mlavalle | jlibosva: why don't we focus on that one over the next few days ^^^^? | 14:16 |
| amotoki | thanks. I became suddenly busy for internal affairs after PTG till the summit so I could not do for the remaining things... will clean them up soon | 14:16 |
| jlibosva | mlavalle: I have it on my plate, I already did a partial review but then I didn't get back to it | 14:17 |
| mlavalle | cool | 14:17 |
| mlavalle | amotoki: thanks :-) | 14:17 |
| hoangcx_ | mlavalle: jlibosva happy to hear ;) | 14:17 |
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| jlibosva | anything else to blueprints? | 14:19 |
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| mlavalle | not from me | 14:19 |
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| jlibosva | #topic Bugs | 14:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: networking)" | 14:19 | |
| jlibosva | boden was bug deputy last week but he'll be late to this meeting | 14:19 |
| jlibosva | he left an email | 14:20 |
| boden | jlibosva I’m here, but feel free to just paste the summary | 14:20 |
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| jlibosva | boden: o/ hi | 14:20 |
| jlibosva | ok :) boden triaged all the bugs and there is still one critical: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1724253 | 14:20 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1724253 in neutron "error in netns privsep wrapper: ImportError: No module named agent.linux.ip_lib" [Critical,Confirmed] - Assigned to Thomas Morin (tmmorin-orange) | 14:20 |
| jlibosva | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1724253 | 14:20 |
| jlibosva | it already has a fix up for review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/505701 | 14:21 |
| jlibosva | oh, it's merged | 14:21 |
| mlavalle | well, no | 14:21 |
| mlavalle | I don't think that's the fix | 14:21 |
| mlavalle | I think that was the trigger, right haleyb ? | 14:21 |
| mlavalle | or seems to be | 14:21 |
| slaweq | mlavalle: yes | 14:22 |
| haleyb | yes, that is correct | 14:22 |
| jlibosva | but I saw some fixes to configure_func_for_testing script | 14:22 |
| jlibosva | hold on | 14:22 |
| haleyb | wait, that was the wrong review i think | 14:22 |
| haleyb | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/503280/ | 14:23 |
| jlibosva | right ^^ | 14:24 |
| haleyb | i will update based on tmorin's comments, lost track of that one | 14:24 |
| jlibosva | and then the fix for bagpipe: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/500109/ | 14:24 |
| mlavalle | thanks haleyb :-) | 14:24 |
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| jlibosva | and that's all for bugs from the last week | 14:26 |
| jlibosva | unless anybody has anything, I'll move to the next topic | 14:26 |
| mlavalle | great job boden. thanks for your dilligence :-) | 14:27 |
| jlibosva | boden++ | 14:27 |
| jlibosva | #topic Docs | 14:27 |
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| jlibosva | boden: hi again | 14:27 |
| boden | just an FYI.. there’s a proposal to add PDF generation to the unified doc build https://review.openstack.org/#/c/509297/ | 14:27 |
| boden | I’m guessing that would give us PDF generation “for free” | 14:28 |
| mlavalle | many moons ago we had that | 14:28 |
| mlavalle | I remember being a newbie and downloading the PDF API doc | 14:28 |
| boden | there are also still a few patches out for doc/api-ref fixes when folks get time to review | 14:29 |
| boden | that’s all I have unless someone wants to add something? | 14:29 |
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| mlavalle | those are in neutron-lib, correct | 14:29 |
| mlavalle | ? | 14:29 |
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| boden | mlavalle, yeah it appears all the neutron ones already landed | 14:30 |
| * mlavalle making sure folks know where to look | 14:30 | |
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| amotoki | neutron-lib https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/neutron-lib+path:%255Eapi-ref/.*+status:open | 14:31 |
| mlavalle | amotoki: even better. Thanks :-) | 14:31 |
| jlibosva | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/neutron-lib+path:%255Eapi-ref/.*+status:open | 14:31 |
| jlibosva | boden: thanks for updates | 14:32 |
| jlibosva | I think we can move on | 14:32 |
| jlibosva | #topic Transition to OSC | 14:32 |
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| jlibosva | amotoki: hi, do you want to give any updates? | 14:32 |
| amotoki | I see zuul v3 jobs are now working. | 14:33 |
| amotoki | I am not sure who fixed it, but thanks anyway | 14:33 |
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| amotoki | regarding OSC transition, the remaining part is dynamic-routing. I think it is near the merge https://review.openstack.org/#/c/340763/ | 14:34 |
| jlibosva | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/340763/ | 14:34 |
| amotoki | I hope some folks around dynamic-routing test it | 14:34 |
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| mlavalle | I think that would be vikram | 14:34 |
| jlibosva | amotoki: is that all to osc? | 14:36 |
| amotoki | also would like to cut a release of neutronclient for Queens after Q-1 | 14:36 |
| amotoki | I would like to include some SFC fixes | 14:36 |
| amotoki | if you have any to be included, let us know | 14:36 |
| mlavalle | thanks | 14:37 |
| amotoki | that's all from me | 14:37 |
| jlibosva | thanks for updates amotoki :) | 14:37 |
| jlibosva | anybody has anything to add to this topic? | 14:37 |
| jlibosva | I think we can jump to the next one then | 14:37 |
| jlibosva | #topic Neutron-lib | 14:37 |
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| jlibosva | boden: hi again | 14:37 |
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| boden | business as usual… “consumption” patches are in progress https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+message:%22NeutronLibImpact%22 | 14:38 |
| boden | as mentioned, I’ve been making consumption changes for all impacted projects.. and thus have not been sending the “heads up” to the ML | 14:38 |
| jlibosva | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+message:%22NeutronLibImpact%22 | 14:38 |
| boden | If a neutron consumption patch has -1W from me, it means I’m waiting for consumer patches to land | 14:39 |
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| boden | also I think there are a number of patches ready to land in neutron-lib; they are just waiting for a +1 workflow vote from someone | 14:40 |
| boden | if folks that have +W in lib get time, can you please make a pass through the neutron-lib review queue | 14:40 |
| mlavalle | I will take a look later today | 14:40 |
| boden | thanks | 14:40 |
| boden | and that’s all I have unless someone wants to add something | 14:40 |
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| jlibosva | boden: thanks | 14:41 |
| amotoki | boden: one question: how can we know consumer patches? | 14:41 |
| amotoki | Same topic? | 14:41 |
| boden | amotoki: for most cases you can just look at the topic to see all related patches | 14:41 |
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| amotoki | nice | 14:42 |
| boden | however for those that have the bp/neutron-lib-networking-ovn you have to search for the matching subject | 14:42 |
| boden | I’m not using that “generic” topic anymore tho, so hopefully just using the topic will suffice | 14:42 |
| mlavalle | yeah, it is pretty straightforward in my experience | 14:43 |
| boden | BTW: I know we did have a breakage the other week from lib consumption | 14:43 |
| boden | IMO that’s to be expected in these massive x-project efforts, tho I think overall it’s been fairly smooth | 14:43 |
| boden | if ppl have comments on the approach feel free to voice them | 14:43 |
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| boden | I’m done now :) | 14:44 |
| jlibosva | ok, thanks :) | 14:44 |
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| jlibosva | unless there is nothing else to add we can jump to open discussion | 14:44 |
| jlibosva | #topic open discussion | 14:44 |
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| mlavalle | I have a topic | 14:45 |
| jlibosva | there is no topic on wiki | 14:45 |
| jlibosva | mlavalle: go on :) | 14:45 |
| mlavalle | well, I added a "Starter Approved RFEs" section to the meeting's wiki | 14:45 |
| jlibosva | mlavalle: do you want this as a topic in our team meetings? | 14:46 |
| mlavalle | I just want to highlight it in very meeting to remind folks that those RFEs are ready to be implemented, are cosidered entry level | 14:46 |
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| mlavalle | jlibosva: yeah, I just would like to spend a couple of minutes highlighting them | 14:47 |
| jlibosva | let's do it then | 14:47 |
| jlibosva | #topic Starter Approved RFEs | 14:47 |
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| mlavalle | Please look at this new section in the teams wiki | 14:47 |
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| jlibosva | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/Meetings#Starter_Approved_RFEs | 14:47 |
| mlavalle | I am also planning to discuss these RFEs during the Upstream Institute and on-boarding sessions in Sydney | 14:48 |
| mlavalle | let's see it this helps to bring new recruits to the team | 14:48 |
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| mlavalle | and I will send a message to the ML this week also | 14:49 |
| mlavalle | that's all I have on this topic | 14:49 |
| jlibosva | thanks | 14:49 |
| jlibosva | does anybody have any other topic to discuss? | 14:50 |
| jlibosva | if not, we can end 10 minutes earlier | 14:50 |
| mlavalle | yaay! | 14:50 |
| jlibosva | sounds like a plan then :) thanks everybody for coming | 14:50 |
| jlibosva | #endmeeting | 14:50 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 14:50 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Oct 24 14:50:49 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:50 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2017/networking.2017-10-24-14.00.html | 14:50 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2017/networking.2017-10-24-14.00.txt | 14:50 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2017/networking.2017-10-24-14.00.log.html | 14:50 |
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| mlavalle | jlibosva: thanks for leading the meeting :-) | 14:51 |
| jlibosva | it's always a pleasure :) | 14:51 |
| amotoki | thanks all | 14:51 |
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| ihrachys | #startmeeting neutron_ci | 16:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Oct 24 16:01:16 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ihrachys. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_ci' | 16:01 |
| ihrachys | o/ | 16:01 |
| mlavalle | o/ | 16:01 |
| slaweq | hi | 16:01 |
| ihrachys | #topic Actions from prev meeting | 16:01 |
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| ihrachys | "haleyb to follow up with infra on missing grafite data for zuulv3 jobs" | 16:01 |
| * haleyb hides | 16:01 | |
| ihrachys | haleyb, any news on the missing data? | 16:01 |
| jlibosva | o/ | 16:01 |
| ihrachys | haleyb, meaning no? :) | 16:02 |
| * mlavalle waiting for call from hospital where wife is undergoing minor surgery procedure. Might drop from the meeting to go pick her up. Will advice the team | 16:02 | |
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| haleyb | i have been busy with other priorities, will ping them now | 16:02 |
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| ihrachys | mlavalle, ack, thanks for the heads up, I hope everything is ok | 16:02 |
| haleyb | mlavalle: don't worry about work | 16:02 |
| jlibosva | mlavalle: I hope everything will be alright | 16:02 |
| mlavalle | minor thing, she is ok | 16:03 |
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| ihrachys | haleyb, ok. let's tackle that in next days. if you are busy with other stuff, we can find someone else to follow up | 16:03 |
| ihrachys | empty grafana is PITA | 16:03 |
| ihrachys | #action jlibosva to post a patch for decorator that skips test case results if they faile | 16:04 |
| ihrachys | #undo | 16:04 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: #action jlibosva to post a patch for decorator that skips test case results if they faile | 16:04 |
| ihrachys | oops | 16:04 |
| ihrachys | #action haleyb to follow up with infra on missing grafite data for zuulv3 jobs | 16:04 |
| clarkb | I think we have been pushing statsd events for a while now | 16:04 |
| clarkb | just a matter of updating the paths to the gauges/counters? | 16:05 |
| ihrachys | clarkb, 'a while' is weeks? | 16:05 |
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| clarkb | ihrachys: zuulv3 hasn't been deployed for weeks :P since last week at least iirc | 16:05 |
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| ihrachys | ok | 16:06 |
| haleyb | clarkb: i'll have to follow-up in in the infra channel as our grafana page has no stats, maybe we just have to change where we grab them? | 16:06 |
| clarkb | haleyb: ya that | 16:06 |
| haleyb | i didn't see new names in graphite | 16:06 |
| ihrachys | I think we had that discussion, there was a doc page somewhere describing new paths | 16:06 |
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| haleyb | i just don't see it in the faq or migration | 16:07 |
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| ihrachys | sorry, can't find the link now :-x | 16:08 |
| clarkb | after a quick look the data is there, swing by the infra channel after your meeting and we'll get you sorted out | 16:08 |
| haleyb | clarkb: great, thanks | 16:09 |
| ihrachys | great. next item was "jlibosva to post a patch for decorator that skips test case results if they failed" | 16:09 |
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| jlibosva | I did today but it failed CI cause of my bad mistakes | 16:09 |
| jlibosva | next PS was sent a few minutes ago: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/514660/ | 16:09 |
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| jlibosva | and that's all from me :) | 16:11 |
| ihrachys | great, seems reasonable, I will have a look | 16:11 |
| jlibosva | thanks | 16:11 |
| ihrachys | next was "slaweq to take over https://review.openstack.org/#/c/504186/ from armax" | 16:11 |
| slaweq | I pushed patch today: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/514586/ | 16:11 |
| ihrachys | I see the patch was abandoned, replaced by https://review.openstack.org/#/c/514586/ | 16:11 |
| slaweq | I didn't abandon any patch but maybe someone else did it | 16:11 |
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| slaweq | fullstack test for trunk passed with this my patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/514586/ | 16:12 |
| jlibosva | one question to it. do we want that config opt to be exposed to users or is it just for testing purposes? | 16:12 |
| jlibosva | afaik the original patch from armax stated that's just for testing | 16:12 |
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| ihrachys | should be test only | 16:13 |
| ihrachys | probably need to pick some explicit name for the option | 16:13 |
| ihrachys | like '__prefix_for_testing' | 16:13 |
| slaweq | his patch was doing something else, he don't initialized trunk handler if trunk wasn't enabled | 16:14 |
| slaweq | my config option is available for all but IMHO it should be used only for tests | 16:14 |
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| slaweq | I can of course update help message and name for this option to be more "test" only | 16:14 |
| jlibosva | yeah, maybe that would be safer | 16:15 |
| jlibosva | thanks :) | 16:15 |
| slaweq | so, please review my patch and I will address Your comments :) | 16:15 |
| ihrachys | let us review what you have and then you respin | 16:15 |
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| slaweq | ihrachys: thx | 16:15 |
| ihrachys | next item was "ihrachys to talk to oslo folks about RWD garbage data in the socket on call interrupted" | 16:15 |
| ihrachys | I popped at their channel a bunch of times, didn't seem like there is interest in it. I was told Thierry is the expert on rootwrap. :) | 16:16 |
| ihrachys | I also started looking at the library code but was distracted by a flu | 16:16 |
| mlavalle | we can corner him in Sydney, if you want :-) | 16:17 |
| ihrachys | mlavalle, well I guess I should just ask him. though afair he was not behind the daemon mode. | 16:17 |
| mlavalle | cool | 16:17 |
| ihrachys | so tl;dr I will continue looking at it | 16:17 |
| jlibosva | toshii is also looking at it | 16:17 |
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| jlibosva | he sent a patch to prove that rwd is not a friend with eventlet | 16:18 |
| jlibosva | as there might be yet another issue | 16:18 |
| ihrachys | toshii? | 16:18 |
| jlibosva | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/514547/ | 16:18 |
| ihrachys | didn't know that's his nic :) | 16:18 |
| jlibosva | rwd fails with fullstack in agents too, not just testrunner - http://logstash.openstack.org/#dashboard/file/logstash.json?query=message%3A%5C%22Second%20simultaneous%5C%22 | 16:18 |
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| jlibosva | the 15 minutes doesn't show the result but bigger window does ^^ | 16:19 |
| ihrachys | interesting. is it the same issue? | 16:20 |
| jlibosva | ihrachys: yeah, he's in a lot different timezone than you are so probably you don't overlap :) | 16:20 |
| jlibosva | no, I think that's a different issue | 16:20 |
| jlibosva | one is that data are left in socket if timeout raises before data are read | 16:20 |
| jlibosva | this is about accessing fd concurrently, if I understand the trace | 16:21 |
| ihrachys | fully flushing the data before calling a command should fix the first, for what I understand | 16:21 |
| ihrachys | right, I also think it's different | 16:21 |
| jlibosva | the error is: RuntimeError: Second simultaneous read on fileno 9 detected. Unless you really know what you're doing, make sure that only one greenthread can read any particular socket. Consider using a pools.Pool. | 16:21 |
| ihrachys | maybe need another bug | 16:21 |
| ihrachys | the second failure usually happens when some part of i/o libraries is not patched | 16:22 |
| jlibosva | but I thought each process (agent) spawns its own rwd process | 16:22 |
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| jlibosva | hmm, we had this issue in the past with customized agents | 16:22 |
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| jlibosva | that dhcp agent was not monkey_patched but that was fixed iirc | 16:22 |
| ihrachys | I see it happens in dhcp agent only | 16:23 |
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| ihrachys | we'll need a separate bug for that. I will ask toshii to spin it off the existing one. | 16:24 |
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| jlibosva | ack | 16:25 |
| ihrachys | it could be e.g. that oslo.rootwrap is imported before monkey patching happens in the customized fullstack dhcp agent | 16:25 |
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| ihrachys | thanks for letting know there is also that issue | 16:25 |
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| ihrachys | finally, we had "mlavalle to explore how to move legacy jobs to new style" | 16:25 |
| ihrachys | mlavalle, any discoveries? | 16:25 |
| mlavalle | i made some progress there reading the guide | 16:26 |
| mlavalle | the process has two steps | 16:26 |
| mlavalle | 1) Move a legacy job to our repo, under .zuul.yaml | 16:26 |
| mlavalle | 2) Once moved and executing from our repo, tweak it to exploit zuulv3 goodies | 16:27 |
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| mlavalle | I am in the process of moving legacy-neutron-dsvm-api | 16:27 |
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| mlavalle | clarkb: I have a question. is .zuul.yaml expected to be at the top our repo? | 16:27 |
| ihrachys | mlavalle, is it identical copy when first step is done? | 16:28 |
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| mlavalle | yes it is | 16:28 |
| clarkb | mlavalle: yes I think zuul only looks at the repo root | 16:28 |
| ihrachys | will zuul use our override right after it lands, or we'll need to clean it up first in global space? | 16:28 |
| ihrachys | I mean, are we able to gate on the move right away, or we'll need to merge/clean up to see result? | 16:29 |
| clarkb | you should be able to gate on the move right away | 16:29 |
| ihrachys | goood | 16:29 |
| clarkb | but you'll have potentially duplicate jobs running until cleaned up | 16:29 |
| clarkb | (so you'll want to get that done quickly too) | 16:29 |
| mlavalle | and then there is a number of steps explianed in the doc on how to remove it from zuul | 16:29 |
| mlavalle | I will take care of this as well | 16:30 |
| ihrachys | clarkb, you mean two jobs with same name? or do you suggest that names will differ? | 16:30 |
| mlavalle | no, the moved job has a different name | 16:30 |
| clarkb | the names have to differ | 16:30 |
| mlavalle | it is not legacy anymore | 16:30 |
| clarkb | but they will likely be functionally equivalent | 16:30 |
| clarkb | then you delete the old one and have a single set of job(s) | 16:30 |
| ihrachys | mlavalle, I thought 'legacy' means 'no fancy ansible' | 16:30 |
| mlavalle | legacy means it is not in our repo | 16:31 |
| ihrachys | gotcha | 16:31 |
| mlavalle | as soon as it is in our repo it is up to us what the job does | 16:31 |
| mlavalle | as far as exploiting facy ansible | 16:31 |
| ihrachys | I see. so we can stick to calling a script as we do, that's fine with infra? | 16:31 |
| clarkb | yes | 16:32 |
| mlavalle | clarkb: I will add your name to the patches in neutron and infra so you can baby sit me | 16:33 |
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| ihrachys | nice progress, thanks mlavalle and clarkb | 16:33 |
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| ihrachys | #topic Scenarios | 16:34 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Scenarios (Meeting topic: neutron_ci)" | 16:34 | |
| ihrachys | during the previous meeting, we briefly talked about this bug: https://launchpad.net/bugs/1717302 | 16:35 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1717302 in neutron "Tempest floatingip scenario tests failing on DVR Multinode setup with HA" [High,Confirmed] | 16:35 |
| * mlavalle just got call from hospital. She did great. Pick her up in 1 houir, so will be able to finish this meeting :-) | 16:35 | |
| ihrachys | haleyb, I believe Swami was going to have a look? | 16:35 |
| haleyb | ihrachys: yes, but i don't see an update | 16:36 |
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| haleyb | i am thinking he is on pto or otherwise busy | 16:36 |
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| ihrachys | right, I am just pulling attention of l3 Olympus :) | 16:37 |
| mlavalle | LOL | 16:37 |
| mlavalle | will make sure we review this on Thursday | 16:37 |
| haleyb | delegate is my middle name | 16:37 |
| * mlavalle wonders if haleyb iz Zeus | 16:38 | |
| haleyb | not I | 16:39 |
| ihrachys | there are other scenario failures, but seems like we already have hands full, so I will skip enumerating all of them.. | 16:39 |
| ihrachys | we already talked about grafana, and fullstack... so I will skip to... | 16:40 |
| ihrachys | #topic Open discussion | 16:40 |
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| ihrachys | anything to discuss beyond all above? | 16:40 |
| jlibosva | I don't have anything | 16:40 |
| mlavalle | I'm good | 16:41 |
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| haleyb | nothing here | 16:41 |
| ihrachys | ok | 16:41 |
| ihrachys | one thing is that I need to follow up with Chandan on tempest plugin repo. it becomes a concern now, we diverge and not making progress. | 16:42 |
| ihrachys | #action ihrachys to follow up with Chandan on progress to split off tempest plugin | 16:42 |
| mlavalle | yeah, good catch | 16:42 |
| ihrachys | if we don't have anything else, I will wrap it up | 16:42 |
| armax | ihrachys: going back to your comment above we can’t use __ in config options | 16:42 |
| armax | as prefix | 16:42 |
| armax | oslo doesn’t like it | 16:42 |
| ihrachys | meh | 16:42 |
| armax | don’t shoot the messenger! | 16:43 |
| ihrachys | ok, we can say 'test_prefix_dont_use_yes_I_know_what_I_do_here' :) | 16:43 |
| armax | :) | 16:43 |
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| mlavalle | ahhh, armax was lurking | 16:43 |
| armax | that’s very reasonable | 16:43 |
| slaweq | yes, that's good name | 16:43 |
| armax | :) | 16:43 |
| slaweq | :) | 16:43 |
| armax | actually I just looked at the patch while I was boringly attending another meeting :) | 16:43 |
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| armax | I dunno, I am having seconds thoughts :) | 16:43 |
| armax | have we considered running fullstack serially for the time being? | 16:44 |
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| jlibosva | armax: no, that would take eternity to finish :) | 16:44 |
| ihrachys | yeah, it's 52 mins now | 16:45 |
| armax | did you quantify what ethernity means? | 16:45 |
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| ihrachys | with 8 (?) threads | 16:45 |
| jlibosva | the setup takes a long and it's run per test method | 16:45 |
| jlibosva | I don't have exact numbers tho | 16:45 |
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| armax | there are jobs that take about 2 hours | 16:45 |
| armax | so it’s not like if fullstack finishes fast we can do anything else | 16:46 |
| ihrachys | you assume no one runs it locally | 16:46 |
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| armax | who runs the entire fullstack suite locally? that’s insane :) | 16:46 |
| slaweq | armax: I agree :) | 16:46 |
| ihrachys | I am pretty sure it will take like 5h serially. | 16:46 |
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| armax | OK then | 16:47 |
| ihrachys | slaweq, agree with what exactly? that we can serialize or that the patch is a hack? :) | 16:47 |
| armax | ihrachys: should be easy to check, though | 16:48 |
| slaweq | that it probably no one runs all fullstack tests locally :) | 16:48 |
| jlibosva | I do | 16:48 |
| slaweq | I can try to check it with one thread | 16:48 |
| jlibosva | when I work on fullstack stuff | 16:48 |
| ihrachys | slaweq, ok please check it so that we have the data | 16:48 |
| armax | jlibosva: you’re not staring at the screen though, are you? :) | 16:48 |
| slaweq | ihrachys: ok, I will | 16:49 |
| jlibosva | armax: I am, that's why I do only a few things a day :-p | 16:49 |
| armax | jlibosva: looks like we need to teach you one thing or two then :) | 16:49 |
| ihrachys | preaching the importance of short feedback loop to developers, I love it | 16:49 |
| jlibosva | :) | 16:49 |
| armax | ihrachys: run only the test you touch! | 16:49 |
| armax | that’s how race conditions creep in! | 16:50 |
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| armax | but even running the whole thing doesn’t stop that, so that’s such an emitter of CO emissions | 16:50 |
| ihrachys | ok, seems like we fall into joke contest | 16:50 |
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| ihrachys | slaweq will check and we'll decide what to do with the data | 16:51 |
| slaweq | ok | 16:51 |
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| ihrachys | armax, CO2 is good. just move from California to a more reasonable place (New Hampshire anyone?) | 16:51 |
| armax | either way, it looks to me that the cleanest solution to a test problem is to limit the change to the test code | 16:51 |
| jlibosva | armax: just say you want to use the monkey patch approach you and I talked about at the PTG :) | 16:52 |
| armax | but I am not too strongly opinionated | 16:52 |
| armax | jlibosva: I actually did on the patch :) | 16:52 |
| jlibosva | :D | 16:52 |
| jlibosva | I mean, I wouldn't be against :) | 16:53 |
| armax | jlibosva: both are hackish | 16:53 |
| ihrachys | huh. so we are back to zero. ok, let's comment on the patch. at this point, I agree with anything that makes those green. :) | 16:53 |
| jlibosva | right | 16:53 |
| armax | one hack is hidden in the fullstack subtree | 16:53 |
| armax | and that’s feels cleaner | 16:53 |
| armax | ihrachys: no | 16:53 |
| armax | we’re not | 16:53 |
| armax | we learned in the process | 16:53 |
| slaweq | ihrachys: so we should use https://pypi.python.org/pypi/pytest-vw to make it green :D | 16:54 |
| ihrachys | jlibosva, we should use -vw ^ instead of your decorator :) | 16:54 |
| armax | eh, I would have gone as far as stop running the job altogether | 16:54 |
| armax | but pytest-vw looks good too | 16:55 |
| jlibosva | won't we need to change all the stuff to pytest ? | 16:55 |
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| ihrachys | jlibosva, do you want all green or not??? | 16:55 |
| jlibosva | I do, less emissions, love it | 16:55 |
| armax | I think we should make ‘what green means’ configurable | 16:56 |
| armax | but I digress | 16:56 |
| ihrachys | I see the contest is rolling forward | 16:56 |
| ihrachys | but I will call it a day | 16:56 |
| ihrachys | thanks everyone :) | 16:57 |
| jlibosva | thanks :) | 16:57 |
| mlavalle | o/ | 16:57 |
| slaweq | thanks | 16:57 |
| ihrachys | clarkb, thanks a lot for popping up in the meeting, really helpful | 16:57 |
| ihrachys | #endmeeting | 16:57 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Oct 24 16:57:17 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:57 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ci/2017/neutron_ci.2017-10-24-16.01.html | 16:57 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ci/2017/neutron_ci.2017-10-24-16.01.txt | 16:57 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ci/2017/neutron_ci.2017-10-24-16.01.log.html | 16:57 |
| mlavalle | ihrachys: if you have a chance, please take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/512856/ | 16:57 |
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| ihrachys | mlavalle, +1 | 16:58 |
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| lbragstad | #startmeeting keystone | 18:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Oct 24 18:00:10 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is lbragstad. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 18:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'keystone' | 18:00 |
| lbragstad | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-weekly-meeting | 18:00 |
| lbragstad | agenda ^ | 18:00 |
| lbragstad | o/ | 18:00 |
| lbragstad | ping ayoung, breton, cmurphy, dstanek, edmondsw, gagehugo, henrynash, hrybacki, knikolla, lamt, lbragstad, lwanderley, kmalloc, rderose, rodrigods, samueldmq, spilla, aselius, dpar | 18:00 |
| ildikov | o/ | 18:00 |
| aselius | o/ | 18:00 |
| cmurphy | o/ | 18:00 |
| lamt | o/ | 18:00 |
| hrybacki | o/ | 18:00 |
| gagehugo | o/ | 18:01 |
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| raildo | _o_ | 18:01 |
| kmalloc | o/ | 18:01 |
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| knikolla | o/ | 18:02 |
| lbragstad | #topic Relevant Forum sessions/activities | 18:02 |
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| lbragstad | ildikov: o/ | 18:02 |
| ildikov | hey all :) | 18:02 |
| ildikov | I would like to draw your attention to a few sessions happening over the Summit | 18:02 |
| ildikov | long story short the origin of these is the Open Research Cloud group | 18:03 |
| ildikov | #link http://www.openresearchcloud.org | 18:03 |
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| ildikov | the goal is to federate scientific research clouds all around the globe | 18:03 |
| ildikov | not exclusive to OpenStack, but experimenting with OpenStack based clouds right now | 18:03 |
| ildikov | they have a two days long conference in Sydney the first day is in the Summit venue | 18:04 |
| ildikov | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/sydney-2017/summit-schedule/events/20534/3rd-open-research-cloudcongress | 18:04 |
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| ildikov | they have an identity working group | 18:04 |
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| spilla_ | o/ | 18:05 |
| ildikov | and it would be great to have insights from the experts on this team if you have capacity to pop by when the relevant slot(s) come up | 18:05 |
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| lbragstad | cmurphy: sounds closely related to one of your answers in the TC questioning period | 18:05 |
| ildikov | the other session is from a NIST/IEEE activity also on federation | 18:05 |
| ildikov | https://www.openstack.org/summit/sydney-2017/summit-schedule/events/20475/supporting-general-federation-for-large-scale-collaborations | 18:05 |
| ildikov | lbragstad: +1 :) | 18:05 |
| cmurphy | lbragstad: heh :) | 18:06 |
| ildikov | cmurphy: I hope you'll be a partner in crime :) | 18:06 |
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| ildikov | so for the latter the guy, who proposed the session was playing with Keystone earlier | 18:06 |
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| ildikov | and it would be great if someone from the team could attend to see what's working already and what ideas they have that would need some additional tweaking | 18:07 |
| lbragstad | Martial or Craig? | 18:07 |
| ildikov | Craig | 18:07 |
| lbragstad | yeah - that'd be valuable feedback | 18:07 |
| knikolla | i'll definitely have a look | 18:07 |
| cmurphy | I might be free during that slot | 18:07 |
| knikolla | seems closely related to my work | 18:08 |
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| ildikov | I just wanted to ensure that you have this on the radar as I think it would be great to foster some collaboration with the developer community where relevant | 18:08 |
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| ildikov | and also if you have any questions either now or onwards please ping me | 18:08 |
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| ildikov | I'm happy to answer what I can or connect you with the right person | 18:09 |
| ildikov | knikolla: cmurphy: would be great if you could come! | 18:09 |
| lbragstad | ildikov: do you have irc nics for either of the presenters? | 18:09 |
| cmurphy | ildikov: will put it on my schedule :) | 18:09 |
| ildikov | lbragstad: Martial is using martial when he's online | 18:10 |
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| ildikov | lbragstad: I need to check Craig | 18:10 |
| lbragstad | ok | 18:10 |
| lbragstad | just curious | 18:10 |
| ildikov | lbragstad: Martial is also involved in our Scientific WG/SIG | 18:10 |
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| lbragstad | cool | 18:10 |
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| ildikov | and Craig had chats with Steve a while back about federation topics | 18:11 |
| ildikov | so he's not completely new to the community either | 18:11 |
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| lbragstad | good deal | 18:11 |
| ildikov | so appreciated in advance that you guys look into this | 18:12 |
| lbragstad | for sure - i have it book marked | 18:12 |
| ildikov | and I hope we will have good discussions coming out of the sessions in Sydney | 18:12 |
| lbragstad | ildikov: thanks for giving us a heads up! | 18:12 |
| ildikov | lbragstad: thanks for the floor :) | 18:13 |
| lbragstad | ildikov: anytime | 18:13 |
| ildikov | lbragstad: :) | 18:13 |
| lbragstad | #topic trello sync | 18:13 |
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| lbragstad | #link https://trello.com/b/5F0h9Hoe/keystone | 18:13 |
| lbragstad | so - just fyi, i changed a bunch of stuff in trello | 18:13 |
| lbragstad | i apologize in case you found a bunch of tello notifications in your inbox | 18:13 |
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| lbragstad | but - overall, i wanted to be able to track bigger work while seeing smaller tasks move through the process | 18:14 |
| lbragstad | which is essentially where the "epics" column comes from | 18:14 |
| cmurphy | that was a good call | 18:14 |
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| hrybacki | +1 | 18:15 |
| lbragstad | otherwise - it doesn't really look like anything it moving, when things really are in flight | 18:15 |
| lbragstad | credit goes to hrybacki for the tip | 18:15 |
| gagehugo | hrybacki +1 | 18:15 |
| lbragstad | for the time being - i'm not expecting the cards in "Epics" | 18:15 |
| lbragstad | to leave that column | 18:16 |
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| lbragstad | but they should be descriptive enough and broken down into smaller cards | 18:16 |
| lbragstad | that can move through the rest of the stages | 18:16 |
| lbragstad | does anyone have comments or concerns about the new format? | 18:16 |
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| lbragstad | also - nearly ever card has a due date, which roughly corresponds to a milestone | 18:17 |
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| lbragstad | if you're the owner of a card, and you're comfortable setting a sooner due date, feel free to do so | 18:18 |
| lbragstad | from an actual work tracking perspective - the project tag stuff is *super* close to being done | 18:19 |
| lbragstad | #link https://trello.com/c/n7iBqoLY/35-project-tags | 18:19 |
| lbragstad | we're pretty much just waiting on a patch to tempest | 18:20 |
| lbragstad | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/485344/ | 18:20 |
| gagehugo | yup | 18:20 |
| lbragstad | then we should be good to go from a server perspective | 18:21 |
| lbragstad | next would be the system-scoping stuff | 18:21 |
| lbragstad | #link https://trello.com/c/W6eFpdPw/28-system-scoping | 18:21 |
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| lbragstad | starting with the spec | 18:21 |
| lbragstad | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/464763/ | 18:21 |
| lbragstad | i'm working on converting the whole global roles implementation to using system-scope | 18:22 |
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| lbragstad | (i'm trying to break things into smaller patches, too) | 18:22 |
| lbragstad | this is where we're at currently | 18:22 |
| lbragstad | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/system-scope+(status:open+OR+status:merged) | 18:22 |
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| lbragstad | we also have unified limits and application credential specs coming down the pipe | 18:24 |
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| lbragstad | it'd be good to have most of the spec work for the release taken care of before or shortly after sydney | 18:26 |
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| lbragstad | does anyone else have anything for trello status? | 18:27 |
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| lbragstad | #topic queens retrospective | 18:28 |
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| lbragstad | does anyone have objections to holding the queens-1 retro during this meeting next week? | 18:29 |
| hrybacki | I think it's a good idea | 18:29 |
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| lbragstad | i figured most everyone will have time blocked off anyway | 18:29 |
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| gagehugo_phone | Sounds good to me | 18:30 |
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| cmurphy | +1 | 18:30 |
| lbragstad | cool - we'll plan on doing the retro next week then | 18:31 |
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| lbragstad | #topic open discussion | 18:31 |
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| lbragstad | fwiw - the openstack-ansible upgrade job has been removed in favor of something else | 18:31 |
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| lbragstad | as a result, odyssey4me has moved the job into the keystone repository | 18:32 |
| lbragstad | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/514765/ | 18:32 |
| lbragstad | this was discussed this morning in #openstack-ansible | 18:32 |
| lbragstad | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-ansible/%23openstack-ansible.2017-10-24.log.html#t2017-10-24T13:23:59 | 18:32 |
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| lbragstad | just fyi - and encouraging folks to review that if they're interested | 18:33 |
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| gagehugo_phone | Eventually all the jobs will be moved into the project repos right? | 18:35 |
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| lbragstad | gagehugo_phone: that's a good question - i'm not 100% sure | 18:35 |
| lbragstad | clarkb: or fungi might have a better answer? | 18:36 |
| clarkb | not all jobs | 18:36 |
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| clarkb | I think the plan is to keep the PTI defined jobs in project-config to ensure projects are running them along with any of the "system-required" jobs | 18:37 |
| clarkb | then anything that needs access to infra secrets will remain in eg project-config | 18:37 |
| clarkb | but the vast majority of jobs should be able to move into your repos | 18:37 |
| gagehugo_phone | Ah ok | 18:38 |
| lbragstad | i assume functional or ldap testing might fall into that category? | 18:38 |
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| clarkb | yes | 18:38 |
| lbragstad | cool | 18:39 |
| lbragstad | unless anyone has anything else - we can get some time back | 18:40 |
| lbragstad | reminder office hours starts in 20 minutes | 18:40 |
| gagehugo_phone | Thanks clarkb | 18:40 |
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| ayoung | We have the Amazon walk thru tomorrow, right? | 18:40 |
| lbragstad | yes | 18:40 |
| lbragstad | tomorrow at 1500 UTC | 18:41 |
| lbragstad | ayoung: thanks for the reminder | 18:41 |
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| ayoung | Cool | 18:41 |
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| lbragstad | thanks for coming! | 18:43 |
| lbragstad | #endmeeting | 18:43 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Oct 24 18:43:13 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:43 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2017/keystone.2017-10-24-18.00.html | 18:43 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2017/keystone.2017-10-24-18.00.txt | 18:43 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2017/keystone.2017-10-24-18.00.log.html | 18:43 |
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| clarkb | #startmeeting infra | 19:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Oct 24 19:00:10 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is clarkb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'infra' | 19:00 |
| AJaeger | o/ | 19:00 |
| ianw | o/ | 19:00 |
| clarkb | hello infraers | 19:00 |
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| fungi | helo | 19:00 |
| Zara | hi! | 19:00 |
| tobiash | hi | 19:00 |
| clarkb | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/InfraTeamMeeting#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 19:01 |
| clarkb | #topic Announcements | 19:01 |
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| clarkb | #info Summit in two weeks | 19:01 |
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| fungi | seems like we just had one | 19:01 |
| clarkb | This is a general fyi that many of us will be traveling to the summit in Sydney soon. Expect things to slow down starting mid next week | 19:02 |
| clarkb | #info You probably need a Visa if you don't have one yet | 19:02 |
| fungi | yeah, i have to start my journey a week from tomorrow | 19:02 |
| jeblair | or an "electronic travel authorization" if you don't need a "visa" | 19:02 |
| clarkb | right that | 19:02 |
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| clarkb | so make sure you've got one | 19:03 |
| clarkb | #info No meeting November 7 | 19:03 |
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| clarkb | I'm just going to go ahead and call it on ^ | 19:04 |
| jeblair | ++ | 19:04 |
| clarkb | but I will be around to host the meeting next week | 19:04 |
| clarkb | #topic Actions from last meeting | 19:04 |
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| clarkb | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2017/infra.2017-10-17-19.00.txt Minutes from last meeting | 19:05 |
| clarkb | fungi did the backup policy on secrets get a doc patch yet? | 19:05 |
| fungi | something i was probably supposed to do there, so... no not yet | 19:05 |
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| clarkb | #action fungi Document secrets backup policy | 19:05 |
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| clarkb | ianw: I don't think I've seen backups for the actual secret keys yet either? | 19:05 |
| ianw | bah no, will do | 19:06 |
| fungi | oh, right, something about making sure it says not to treat us as a backup of your secrets | 19:06 |
| clarkb | #action ianw Work to backup zuulv3 secret's keys | 19:06 |
| clarkb | fungi: ya that | 19:06 |
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| clarkb | (fwiw I didn't expect those things had been done as so much effort is still in sorting out bugs/jobfixes/etc) | 19:06 |
| fungi | we can't provide them to you if you lose them, but we'll back up our private keys for our own disaster recover of the ci system | 19:06 |
| fungi | will do | 19:06 |
| clarkb | #topic Priority Efforts | 19:07 |
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| clarkb | #topic Zuul v3 | 19:07 |
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| clarkb | jeblair had an item about the PTI and job variants here | 19:07 |
| AJaeger | Are we ready to remove zuul v2 config from project-config? Then we need to merge first https://review.openstack.org/#/c/513910 and then recheck and merge https://review.openstack.org/#/c/507180/ | 19:07 |
| jeblair | oh hi | 19:07 |
| AJaeger | We first want to tag, don't we? | 19:07 |
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| jeblair | AJaeger: yeah, i think we're ready | 19:07 |
| jeblair | we can always retroactively tag | 19:08 |
| * AJaeger removes the WIP from 513910... | 19:08 | |
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| jeblair | (anyone want to suggest a commit to tag? anyone want to actually perform the tag?) | 19:08 |
| AJaeger | jeblair: go ahead, sorry for sneaking in front... | 19:08 |
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| clarkb | I can make the tag | 19:09 |
| jeblair | (i don't care enough to suggest a commit :) | 19:09 |
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| clarkb | jeblair: probably commit before 513910? | 19:09 |
| jeblair | clarkb: wfm | 19:09 |
| clarkb | or we could even tag 513910 since it doesn't remove the jobs yet | 19:09 |
| jeblair | so the pti thing -- i think the migration doc is pretty clear on "don't put python-jobs template in your repo, put it in project-config" | 19:10 |
| clarkb | after the meeting I'll pull up a git log and propose a commit to tag but I'm guessing something like master or master~1 | 19:10 |
| fungi | i'm happy to `git tag -s farewell-jenkins ...` the immediate merge commit parent of whatever change removes our v2 configs | 19:10 |
| fungi | as noted, doesn't have to happen pre-merge | 19:10 |
| jeblair | but projects may need/want to create project-pipeline variants of the jobs in those templates | 19:10 |
| jeblair | (like, use a trusty on this old branch, or adding files or irrelevant files) | 19:11 |
| clarkb | or adding required projects like with neutron jobs | 19:12 |
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| jeblair | ya | 19:12 |
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| jeblair | generally speaking, those could go either place -- project-config or in-repo. | 19:12 |
| jeblair | with one notable exception | 19:12 |
| AJaeger | jeblair: I'd like to have a clear policy on what is ok: Do we reject variants in project-config? Don't care? Ask to have them in project-config? | 19:12 |
| Shrews | or don't run any py27 jobs (the template adding that also adds pep8, which makes that more complex) | 19:13 |
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| jeblair | once the project template is applied in project-config, you can't elect not to run a job on a branch, you have to drop the template and add the job specifically for the branch | 19:13 |
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| jeblair | yah, that :) | 19:13 |
| jeblair | it's probably worth treating these as two separate cases | 19:13 |
| jeblair | since not running a pti job on a branch is, strictly speaking, a policy violation | 19:13 |
| jeblair | even though, in the case which brought it to our attention (nodepool), it's a very forward-looking one :) | 19:14 |
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| jeblair | anyway, that case requires a project-config change anyway, so it's not going to slip by us. i think we can set it aside for the moment and focus on the other case -- variants that add projects or file matchers, etc | 19:14 |
| jeblair | oh you know what, file matchers may not work either for the same reason | 19:15 |
| Shrews | branch matchers do not | 19:15 |
| clarkb | jeblair: I think that may be what the release job is running into | 19:15 |
| jeblair | (i bet that's what's going on with the thing i'm supposed to look at in the etherpad) | 19:15 |
| AJaeger | to reduce our work, we could say: templates have to stay in project-config, any variants go in-repo ;) | 19:15 |
| jeblair | AJaeger: i'm inclined to favor that idea too | 19:15 |
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| AJaeger | if we would go down this road, would we -2 any variant and ask to add to in-repo? | 19:16 |
| clarkb | is this something that is considered a bug or just behavior we have to live with? | 19:16 |
| clarkb | asking beacuse if it is just something that needs to be fixed do we want to move back to project-config later? | 19:17 |
| jeblair | clarkb: this is largely a policy question | 19:17 |
| AJaeger | Similar, do we allow new legacy jobs like https://review.openstack.org/514768? I'm inclined to -2 this change that adds a legacy tempest troveclient job | 19:17 |
| jeblair | clarkb: ultimately, i'm inclined to say that we should trust projects to manage their own variants | 19:18 |
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| jeblair | reviewing those isn't really worth our time, and it's desirable that they be in-repo. | 19:18 |
| clarkb | jeblair: would we still force the variant to be run via project-config? | 19:18 |
| AJaeger | jeblair: then I would love to have a check that we do not run non-voting jobs in gate or voting jobs only in check ;) | 19:18 |
| dhellmann | there are rules about defining a job in one repo and attaching it to another repo right? | 19:18 |
| clarkb | slightly concerned we'll end up with teh variant of "run no jobs" if not | 19:19 |
| jeblair | dhellmann: yes. one of the rules is you can totally do that. | 19:19 |
| dhellmann | so I can define a job in releases and attach it to nova without their consent? | 19:19 |
| jeblair | clarkb: yeah, having the project-template attached to the project in project-config will cause the job to always run. | 19:19 |
| clarkb | jeblair: gotcha so even if the variant is defined elsewhere we'll force it to run | 19:20 |
| jeblair | dhellmann: nope. another rule is you can only attach it to your own project. only project-config is exempt from that rule. | 19:20 |
| clarkb | in that case ya I agree that allowing projects to define their own variants seems to be simplest | 19:20 |
| dhellmann | jeblair : ok, that's what I thought, thanks | 19:20 |
| AJaeger | dhellmann: you could define a template in release and if nova uses it, any changes in release repo, would be used... | 19:20 |
| AJaeger | dhellmann: but then nova could remove the template usage | 19:21 |
| dhellmann | AJaeger : yeah, that'll work fine. I was hoping to put the list of which projects use which release jobs in one place. it sounds like that place is still project-config, even if we move the job definitions elsewhere. | 19:21 |
| AJaeger | dhellmann: yes | 19:21 |
| jeblair | so i think where this is most likely to break down is in the competing interest between having the template in project-config saying "always run pep8" and a project wanting to say "don't run pep8 on these files". | 19:21 |
| jeblair | basically, as soon as any variant matches a change, the job is going to run. you can't undo that | 19:22 |
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| clarkb | jeblair: would the main job with no exclusions match too? | 19:22 |
| jeblair | this is both in the case of the 'don't run on this branch' example from earlier, but now that i think about it, the more mundane 'don't run on this file'. | 19:22 |
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| dhellmann | so the job settings aren't applied in "layers"? | 19:22 |
| jeblair | dhellmann: they are, but once a job is selected to run, it can't be unselected | 19:23 |
| AJaeger | jeblair: so, to not run a job, I just add a "files: this-file-does-not-exist" ?;) | 19:23 |
| jeblair | dhellmann: cause basically, that's just not applying extra layers | 19:23 |
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| jeblair | let me rephrase | 19:23 |
| dhellmann | jeblair : I guess you're saying the settings in the project tree don't override the settings in project-config | 19:23 |
| fungi | using a first-match algorithm on the decision to run a job | 19:24 |
| dhellmann | they may extend them to add jobs, but not change the rules for selecting jobs to run | 19:24 |
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| jeblair | the openstack-python-jobs template in project-config is attached to all projects. if a change matches any of the matchers are on *that template*, the jobs will run, regardless of whether a project adds their own variant to their own pipeline. | 19:25 |
| * dhellmann nods | 19:25 | |
| jeblair | dhellmann: yeah. they can even alter the way the job is run (ie, increase timeout, add projects, change nodes). the only thing they can't do is cause it not to run. | 19:25 |
| clarkb | ya that is why releases py35 job runs even though there is a variant that specifies different irrelevant files | 19:25 |
| dhellmann | I guess that's not surprising and is probably a feature. | 19:25 |
| AJaeger | jeblair: so, irrelevant-files/files cannot be added in a variant? | 19:25 |
| jeblair | AJaeger: only in an additive capacity | 19:26 |
| fungi | so adding files would work fine | 19:26 |
| dhellmann | files would work but irrelevant-files wouldn't? | 19:26 |
| jeblair | you can use them to say "also run this job on this file". or, "extend the timeout if the change touches this file" | 19:26 |
| dhellmann | but not "don't run this, even though another rule says to" | 19:26 |
| jeblair | dhellmann: right | 19:26 |
| dhellmann | got it | 19:26 |
| fungi | if you wanted to note additional files which should also cause the job to run (assuming the job was previously set to run only under more limited circumstances)? | 19:26 |
| jeblair | fungi: yep | 19:27 |
| AJaeger | jeblair: thanks for this discussion, this is helpful! | 19:27 |
| dhellmann | so, tl;dr, there's no way to make the py35 job not run for data files that don't change the test results? | 19:27 |
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| jeblair | so i think if our policy is "you have to have the pti template attached to your project in project-config" there's some implicit policy around when those jobs run. | 19:27 |
| clarkb | dhellmann: you could modify the base py35 job | 19:27 |
| jeblair | dhellmann: i think there are 2 things we can do (while continuing this policy) | 19:27 |
| clarkb | dhellmann: but otherwise I dn't think so | 19:27 |
| * clarkb lets jeblair explain better | 19:28 | |
| jeblair | we can try to have a good set of matchers on that project-template | 19:28 |
| jeblair | and i think we actuall do that now? | 19:28 |
| dhellmann | I wonder why the releases repo falls under the pti we use for product repos. | 19:28 |
| clarkb | jeblair: ya there are already some irrelevant files on the project-template | 19:28 |
| jeblair | ie, i think the project template does have irrelevant-files | 19:28 |
| jeblair | copied from the nova/neutron copypasta from v2 i think | 19:28 |
| jeblair | so we can continue to manage additions to that and try to find a happy medium for everyone | 19:28 |
| fungi | dhellmann: currently the pti is getting applied to every deliverable of an official team. we may want to decide at the tc level that the pti is only applicable to some subset? | 19:28 |
| jeblair | or we could adopt a policy that lets folks remove the project-template from their project in project-config, perhaps only if they also add back the individual jobs but with the matchers they want. | 19:29 |
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| dhellmann | fungi : Yeah, I think that's a conversation worth having. Not just for this case, which it seems we can solve regardless. | 19:29 |
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| fungi | or, rather, we at the governance level have done a poor job of defining the extent to which deliverables have to conform to the pti | 19:29 |
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| Shrews | jeblair: that is what nodepool has done | 19:29 |
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| fungi | and so project-config-core reviewers are taking the safest and most literal interpretation | 19:30 |
| dhellmann | fungi: yeah, I've noticed several times that different people have a different definition of "all repos" :-) | 19:30 |
| Shrews | though i expect, once we merge feature back to master, we can re-apply the template | 19:30 |
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| jeblair | also, to be fair, the pti doesn't say 'you have to have a zuul project-template'. it just says 'you have to run these jobs'. it's probably fair for releases to still follow the pti, and for us to adapt our thinking on how that happens. | 19:30 |
| jeblair | (and more importantly, if you run these jobs, they run this way) | 19:31 |
| dhellmann | does the infra team *want* to enforce the PTI for all projects? or would you prefer that happens some other way? | 19:31 |
| fungi | jeblair: in fact this came up for swift not too far back. their unit tests include tests requiring some special local filesystems provided which results in them needing to run an alternate job for them. the decision at the governance level was that the sort of deviation they required was acceptable | 19:31 |
| jeblair | i'm not sure i'd characterize our desire as that to 'enforce' as much as 'facilitate'. | 19:32 |
| dhellmann | sure, ok | 19:32 |
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| AJaeger | We're not enforcing all PTI templates on jobs - I'm not -2 a change that removes python-jobs or a repo creation without python-jobs... | 19:32 |
| clarkb | ya we've also given leeway in the past with eg noop jobs to start | 19:32 |
| fungi | dhellmann: basically we'll do our best to review what's tested based on guidance provided in project governance | 19:32 |
| fungi | but, definitely not the police | 19:33 |
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| dhellmann | ok. so it sounds like we should clarify that, and independently the infra team wants to consider the approach to apply the results | 19:33 |
| jeblair | so maybe the happy medium is: 1) use the template if you can. 2) if you want to change the matchers on the template to improve them and it would work for everyone, do that and we'll merge the change. 3) if that doesn't work for you, it's okay to drop the template in project-config, but then (a) add the jobs back in project-config (b) add the jobs back in your own repo. | 19:34 |
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| jeblair | (i don't know which of 3a or 3b we should suggest) | 19:34 |
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| clarkb | jeblair: does adding the jobs back in project-config outside of a template work? eg this behavior is specific to templates? | 19:34 |
| fungi | probably 3a vs 3b can depend on whether the project has (yet) started to do any in-repo config | 19:35 |
| dhellmann | if part of the point of being able to set the jobs up outside of project-config is to lower the infra team's review burden, it seems like (b) is the approach to go with | 19:35 |
| jeblair | clarkb: yeah, and when you do that, you can add whatever (project-specific) matchers you want. | 19:35 |
| clarkb | got it | 19:35 |
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| clarkb | fungi: ya that seems like a reasonable place to start | 19:35 |
| fungi | i agree 3b is preferred but if a project doesn't have or doesn't want in-repo configuration at that point then 3a is fine they just agree to put up with our review bottleneck | 19:36 |
| dhellmann | that seems fair | 19:36 |
| clarkb | its not like that bottleneck is a regression and generally should be improved if >0 projects do it in repo | 19:36 |
| fungi | in most cases i expect teams to prefer 3b as a solution over 3a anyway | 19:36 |
| fungi | once they get comfortable with the notion | 19:37 |
| jeblair | okay, i think i have a feeling for this, thanks. this has been really useful to discuss in a meeting setting :) i'll write it up and send it to the list | 19:37 |
| fungi | awesome, thanks jeblair! | 19:37 |
| AJaeger | thanks, jeblair ! | 19:38 |
| fungi | i agree, very helpful | 19:38 |
| AJaeger | One related question: Do we allow new legacy jobs like https://review.openstack.org/514768? I'm inclined to -2 this change that adds a legacy tempest troveclient job. | 19:38 |
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| clarkb | AJaeger: I'm inclined to allow it if only because it is easy to copy what saharaclient did and this appeas to be a bug in the migration itself | 19:38 |
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| AJaeger | Or do we handle this like 3a vs 3b - if in-repo exists... | 19:38 |
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| jeblair | i'm maybe inclined to let that slide for a few weeks. maybe a month or so. | 19:39 |
| AJaeger | So, encourage them to go in-repo but let them make their own decision for some time - ok, let's try... | 19:39 |
| jeblair | just because the v3 native replacements for complicated jobs are only now becoming available, and we're impinging on peoples' schedules enough as it is :) | 19:39 |
| jeblair | maybe stop doing that after sydney | 19:40 |
| fungi | and also that allows teams comfortable with writing v3-native jobs to lead the way, and provide a larger body of examples and experience for other teams to learn from | 19:40 |
| clarkb | wfm | 19:40 |
| AJaeger | wfm | 19:40 |
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| clarkb | ok anything else zuul? we are running out of time and have a few other items on the list | 19:40 |
| clarkb | onward | 19:41 |
| fungi | nothing from me | 19:41 |
| clarkb | #topic General topics | 19:41 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "General topics (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:41 | |
| clarkb | #topic IRC highlight string for project-config cores | 19:41 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "IRC highlight string for project-config cores (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:41 | |
| clarkb | config-core has been proposed as a replacement for project-config-core to reduce the amount of typing necessary | 19:41 |
| fungi | i'm happy to match on the alternative there | 19:42 |
| fungi | whatever has some loose consensus is fine by me at any rate | 19:42 |
| clarkb | ya probbly best thing is to add both sets of highlights and that way users can get away with teh short version or use the long one if already learned | 19:42 |
| AJaeger | that's what I did earlier today... | 19:42 |
| clarkb | lets do that then. It is easy | 19:43 |
| clarkb | #agreed Add both config-core and project-config-core highlights to irc clients | 19:43 |
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| clarkb | please disagree if there is a reason not to | 19:44 |
| ianw | config-core: i agree | 19:44 |
| clarkb | perfect | 19:44 |
| ianw | hopefully that highlighted for you :) | 19:44 |
| AJaeger | thanks for the test, ianw ;) | 19:44 |
| clarkb | #topic Remove old/EOL branches | 19:44 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Remove old/EOL branches (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:44 | |
| clarkb | tonyb: this one is yours | 19:44 |
| AJaeger | tonyb: did you make it? | 19:45 |
| AJaeger | Otherwise I can step in... | 19:45 |
| AJaeger | tonyb has proposed two topics for branch removal: stable/newton and old numeric ones | 19:45 |
| AJaeger | the agenda lists the two emails. | 19:45 |
| AJaeger | The numeric one got no feedback at all AFAIU. | 19:46 |
| clarkb | AJaeger: the projects using the numberic branches are who you were looking for feedback from right? | 19:46 |
| AJaeger | I'd like to see the removal done to make our jobs easier - less to migrate | 19:46 |
| AJaeger | clarkb: yes, those where what tonyb looked for feedback. | 19:46 |
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| AJaeger | No feedback can mean those projects are dead, haven't read it, whatever - but he only asked for disagreement and nothing happened | 19:47 |
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| clarkb | worst case we'll have tags for the branches and can restore them | 19:48 |
| clarkb | I think it is probably fine to ask for forgiveness in this case | 19:48 |
| ianw | if they were important they'd be in a branch-override in project-config or something, which they're not afaics? | 19:48 |
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| AJaeger | So, two questions basically: Shall we do it? And who volunteers? jhesketh_ did it the last few times AFAIR but he seems not be around | 19:49 |
| clarkb | ++ to doing it | 19:50 |
| clarkb | AJaeger: is this time sensitive as far as running the script? | 19:50 |
| ianw | i'm happy to work with tonyb on it, since we're timezone buddies | 19:50 |
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| clarkb | ianw: that would be great. I'm happy to help too so feel free to ping if I can help | 19:51 |
| AJaeger | clarkb: not really time sensitive - but we normally clean up jobs only after removal. And I would prefer to simplify jobs earlier instead of seeing them migrated in-repo... | 19:51 |
| clarkb | AJaeger: good point so should be done soon | 19:51 |
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| clarkb | AJaeger: does that cover it? anything else you and tonyb want to go over on this topic? | 19:52 |
| AJaeger | this covers everything from my side | 19:52 |
| clarkb | #topic Sydney team evening ideas | 19:52 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Sydney team evening ideas (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:52 | |
| AJaeger | (but I expected tonyb to be here, so don't know whether it covers everything from his) | 19:52 |
| clarkb | AJaeger: ok we can follow up with tonyb later in the day (when tonyb is awake) | 19:52 |
| clarkb | #link https://ethercalc.openstack.org/lx7zv5denrb9 | 19:53 |
| clarkb | ianw has put together a thing ^ | 19:53 |
| clarkb | if you are going to be in sydney and are interested in walking around and finding food and drink you should take a look | 19:53 |
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| ianw | i realised the tuesday is melbourne cup day | 19:53 |
| clarkb | ianw: does that mean everyone is going to be in the bars watching a sporting event? | 19:53 |
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| ianw | the event is at like 3pm, but many will continue. i'm not sure if the conference has organised anything | 19:54 |
| ianw | it is "the race that stops a nation", as they say | 19:54 |
| clarkb | sounds fun :) | 19:54 |
| clarkb | but ya just wanted to amke sure people saw that ethercalc, there is an infra list thread. Please take a look if interested | 19:54 |
| clarkb | #topic Project Renames | 19:55 |
| jeblair | does "X" mean i am available? | 19:55 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Project Renames (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:55 | |
| clarkb | #undo | 19:55 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: #topic Project Renames | 19:55 |
| clarkb | jeblair: that is how I was treating it | 19:55 |
| ianw | jeblair: yes | 19:55 |
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| clarkb | #info X on ethercalc means you are available that night for team thing | 19:55 |
| jeblair | cool | 19:55 |
| clarkb | #topic Project Renames | 19:55 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Project Renames (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:55 | |
| clarkb | These didn't happen beacuse we were focused on helping the release team. I think it is probably a good idea to get more settled into zuulv3 before we try to schedule this | 19:56 |
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| ianw | ++ agree | 19:56 |
| ianw | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/rename-2017-10-20 | 19:56 |
| clarkb | it also came up that we may have to modify our "playbook" for performing these due to zuulv3 | 19:56 |
| ianw | a preliminary plan | 19:56 |
| clarkb | Probably post sydney we can resync and go from there | 19:56 |
| ianw | but i think we decided the early zuul steps were wrong? | 19:56 |
| clarkb | ianw: ya I think there were concerns about renaming things in a way that kept zuul happy | 19:57 |
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| clarkb | lets pick it back up after the summit | 19:57 |
| clarkb | #topic Open Discussion | 19:57 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:57 | |
| clarkb | quick you have 1.5 minutes | 19:57 |
| clarkb | I did something to one of my molars last Friday eating a brick that we called toast and have a dentist visit tomorrow morning (I was just there too...) | 19:58 |
| fungi | right, renaming projects without breaking zuul's configuraiton loading is the tricky bit we don't have answers to yet, i think (short of forcing the change in while zuul is offline) | 19:58 |
| fungi | changeS | 19:59 |
| clarkb | ok, thank you everyone | 19:59 |
| clarkb | see you next week then in sydney | 19:59 |
| clarkb | #endmeeting | 19:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 19:59 | |
| fungi | thanks clarkb! | 19:59 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Oct 24 19:59:08 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2017/infra.2017-10-24-19.00.html | 19:59 |
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| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2017/infra.2017-10-24-19.00.txt | 19:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2017/infra.2017-10-24-19.00.log.html | 19:59 |
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| fungi | reminder: no tc meeting this week, but we have office hours in #openstack-tc as usual (our next is at 01:00 utc) | 20:07 |
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