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ekcs | time for congress meeting thinrichs ramineni_ masahito | 00:02 |
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ramineni_ | ekcs_: hi | 00:03 |
ekcs | topics here as usual. feel free to add/comment: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/congress-meeting-topics | 00:03 |
ekcs | hi ramineni_ ! | 00:03 |
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ekcs | ok let’s get started then. | 00:06 |
ekcs | #topc announcements | 00:06 |
ekcs | congress client 1.8 released | 00:06 |
ekcs | expected to be the final release for pike. | 00:06 |
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ekcs | anything else to announce? | 00:07 |
ekcs | ok then moving on. | 00:08 |
ekcs | #topic congress server, dashboard feature freeze | 00:08 |
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ekcs | pike-3 and feature freeze is due today. | 00:08 |
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ekcs | I see two patches we could try and merge just in time before feature freeze release. | 00:09 |
ekcs | password encryption patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/486787/ | 00:09 |
patchbot | patch 486787 - congress - add encryption to secret datasource config fields | 00:09 |
ekcs | monitoring pane refresh patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/485455/ | 00:09 |
patchbot | patch 485455 - congress-dashboard - Primitive auto reload for monitoring pane | 00:09 |
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ekcs | We could try to merge this too, but it’s a critical bug fix so not quite as urgent because it could be done after pike-3. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/486546/ | 00:10 |
patchbot | patch 486546 - congress-dashboard - Atomic rules to be displayed in UI | 00:10 |
ekcs | though it’d be nice to get it in too. | 00:10 |
ekcs | any other patches to discuss? | 00:11 |
ekcs | ok then on the first patch. password encryption patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/486787/ | 00:12 |
patchbot | patch 486787 - congress - add encryption to secret datasource config fields | 00:12 |
ramineni_ | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/T9eH2zaq | 00:12 |
ramineni_ | Sorry some issue with my ircclient . | 00:13 |
ekcs | do we think we can get it ready to merge? | 00:13 |
ramineni_ | Yes , I'll have a quick look today and get it merge | 00:14 |
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ekcs | ramineni_: great thanks! | 00:14 |
ramineni_ | Tomorrow is the last day | 00:14 |
ramineni_ | ? | 00:14 |
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ekcs | today is last day. Thursday. right now it’s 0:15AM Thursday UTC. | 00:15 |
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ramineni_ | Oohk | 00:15 |
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ekcs | ok let’s talk about the next patch then. | 00:16 |
ekcs | monitoring pane refresh patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/485455/ | 00:16 |
patchbot | patch 485455 - congress-dashboard - Primitive auto reload for monitoring pane | 00:16 |
ekcs | I don’t think I’ll be able move the checkbox. sounds simple but when I tried the style gets overridden by other horizon stuff. | 00:16 |
ekcs | will take some work and some time to figure out. | 00:17 |
ekcs | does it make sense to merge as is? | 00:17 |
ramineni_ | No issue ..it's a minor thing anyway | 00:17 |
ramineni_ | We could merge it and see that later | 00:17 |
ramineni_ | I'll update the vote | 00:17 |
ekcs | great! | 00:18 |
ekcs | moving on to the next thing then. masahito: feel free to chime in if you have any thoughts =) | 00:18 |
ekcs | fixing horizon problem when attempting to display certain rule defined tables: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/486546/ | 00:19 |
patchbot | patch 486546 - congress-dashboard - Atomic rules to be displayed in UI | 00:19 |
ekcs | I do have one question. | 00:20 |
ramineni_ | Yes | 00:20 |
ekcs | table_class_attrs[col_name] = tables.Column( | 00:20 |
ekcs | col_name, verbose_name=col_name) | 00:20 |
ekcs | 1. which name gets displayed? col_name or verbose_name? | 00:20 |
ramineni_ | Verbose name | 00:20 |
ekcs | 2. is the col_name used by anything else? | 00:20 |
ramineni_ | No ..for using it for internal referencing we need for that column | 00:21 |
masahito | ekcs: yes. I did a quick look to encryption patch | 00:21 |
ekcs | if verbose name is displayed, would it be safer to leave col_name the way it was rather than change it from str(i) to 'Col' + str(i) ? | 00:22 |
ekcs | I don’t know what “internal references” use it, but just in case it breaks something? | 00:23 |
ramineni_ | Sure .. would do that | 00:23 |
ekcs | I also wonder if it would look better just to not display any column name. I may play around with keeping verbose_name = “” like before and see what we get. it’s nitpicking I know, but since it’s feature freeze, once we fix the critical bug we don’t get to adjust things haha. | 00:24 |
ramineni_ | I Thought that .. but CLI displays as col0 col1 ..so thought it would be consistent | 00:25 |
ekcs | hmm okay. To me I expect CLI to look techie and use terms like that. where as in horizon it looks much cleaner to not throw in janky looking column names where there isn’t really intended to be any column names. | 00:27 |
ekcs | the made up column names really don’t serve any purpose except make it look weird imo. | 00:28 |
ekcs | anyway just my thought. | 00:29 |
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ekcs | let me see if Ican generate an example real quick | 00:30 |
thinrichs | Hi all. Sorry I'm late | 00:30 |
ekcs | hi thinrichs | 00:30 |
ramineni_ | Ok ..I can adjust that .. it's a minimal change .. if you think col names doesn't look good | 00:31 |
ekcs | ok well not a big deal either way. | 00:33 |
ekcs | masahito: sorry do you have thoughts on the encryption patch? | 00:33 |
masahito | ekcs: overall LGTM. | 00:34 |
masahito | just a minor question is the get_datasource APIs need to return decrypted config all time? | 00:35 |
ekcs | masahito: it probably doesn’t NEED to return decrypted config all the time. | 00:36 |
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ekcs | hold on API let me look at that. | 00:36 |
ekcs | does it hide secret fields by default or show by default? | 00:36 |
masahito | IMO, scecret fields by default is good. | 00:37 |
masahito | I think it's ok for P-3 but it't good to change the decryption is an option in later. | 00:37 |
ekcs | I was wondering what current behavior is. because sometimes secret fields are hidden. | 00:38 |
ekcs | interesting so looking at the code it seems like datasource get_items hides secret fields. but get_item shows. | 00:39 |
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ekcs | masahito: yes I guess we can consider changing API behavior to hide by default and adding a new option to show. | 00:40 |
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ekcs | but yes as far as this patch, it’s addressing a separate concern (encryption in DB). | 00:40 |
ekcs | anything else regarding pike-3 patches to discuss? | 00:41 |
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ekcs | ok then let’s move on. | 00:43 |
ekcs | #topic doc migration | 00:44 |
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ekcs | more of just a quick note to keep everyone aware. | 00:44 |
ekcs | there’s been a big migration of openstack docs going on. | 00:44 |
ekcs | here’s the spec. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/472275/13 | 00:45 |
patchbot | patch 472275 - docs-specs - Adds spec for migrating the documentation suite to... (MERGED) | 00:45 |
ekcs | I think we’ve completed the work on congress client (prioritized because final release is due). | 00:45 |
ekcs | fair amount remains on congress server that we’ll try to get done before RC1. | 00:46 |
ekcs | basically involves pulling any doc maintained outside our repo into our repo, and structuring it correctly according to the structure defined. with the goal of minimizing doc team resources needed to maintain overall doc. | 00:47 |
ekcs | an thoughts or questions? | 00:47 |
ekcs | ok moving on then. | 00:49 |
ekcs | oh and the reason it’s important is because our docs would disappear/look mangled on docs.openstack.org if we don’t complete it haha. | 00:49 |
ekcs | #topic open discussions | 00:49 |
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ekcs | anything else we’d like to talk about today? | 00:50 |
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ekcs | By the way I think Pike will it'll be a nice release for congress. | 00:53 |
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ekcs | We'll have a small but helpful collection of library policies for users to import and play with. | 00:53 |
ekcs | We also have a new monitoring pane for people to see violations and warnings. | 00:53 |
thinrichs | That does sound like a nice release! | 00:54 |
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ekcs | In addition to the many less obvious things we’ve fixed/added/refined. like asynchronous firing of actions to reduce latency. | 00:54 |
ekcs | yea great job all. | 00:54 |
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thinrichs | +1 | 00:56 |
ekcs | Still some work to do between now and RC1. Some I’ll have to fix some testing shortcuts taken to get things into pike-3. There’s also some catch up to do on the documentation on the new features. | 00:56 |
ekcs | 3 more minutes for any other thoughts =) | 00:57 |
qiangcao | Hi all, great features. I’ll try them. Sorry I come late. | 00:58 |
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ekcs | hi qiangcao ! | 00:58 |
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thinrichs | Hi qiangcao! | 00:58 |
qiangcao | hi ekcs ! thinrichs! | 00:59 |
ekcs | I should also mention it was a helpful experience for me to try and write semi-realistic policy rules. | 00:59 |
ekcs | got to have more of a user experience and could see things from the perspective of a user. | 00:59 |
ekcs | see what works really well and what some pain points are. | 01:00 |
qiangcao | any pointers to the policies rules and docs? | 01:00 |
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ekcs | anyway I guess it’s time. | 01:00 |
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ekcs | qiangcao: I’ll chat you on irc. | 01:00 |
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qiangcao | sure! | 01:00 |
ekcs | bye all! | 01:00 |
ekcs | #endmeeting | 01:00 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 27 01:00:58 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 01:01 |
thinrichs | Thanks all! | 01:01 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2017/congressteammeeting.2017-07-27-00.02.html | 01:01 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2017/congressteammeeting.2017-07-27-00.02.txt | 01:01 |
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openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2017/congressteammeeting.2017-07-27-00.02.log.html | 01:01 |
qiangcao | bye all! | 01:01 |
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masahito | bye! | 01:07 |
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zhenguo | #startmeeting mogan | 02:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Thu Jul 27 02:00:25 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is zhenguo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 02:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 02:00 |
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zhenguo | liusheng, wanghao, shaohe_feng, luyao, Xinran, zhangyang: o/ | 02:01 |
liusheng | o/ | 02:01 |
zhangyang | o/ | 02:01 |
luyao | o/ | 02:02 |
zhenguo | as always, the agenda: | 02:02 |
zhenguo | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Mogan#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 02:02 |
zhenguo | let's jump in | 02:02 |
zhenguo | #topic announcements and reminders | 02:02 |
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zhenguo | Community voting for submitted talks is now open, please help to vote mogan related ones. | 02:02 |
shaohe_feng | zhenguo: morning | 02:03 |
zhenguo | shaohe_feng: o/ | 02:03 |
wanghao_ | yeah | 02:03 |
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wanghao_ | zhenguo: you can add our topic to task etherpad. | 02:04 |
zhenguo | wanghao_: we have another etherpad for that | 02:04 |
wanghao_ | zhenguo: sure | 02:04 |
wanghao_ | zhenguo: made by guochangbo? | 02:05 |
zhenguo | wanghao_: seems he created one for chinese talks, lol | 02:05 |
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zhenguo | wanghao_: will try to add ours there | 02:06 |
zhenguo | We don't have much time left for Pike, but there's still tons of things to do :( | 02:07 |
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zhenguo | do you think we should move some tasks to Q? | 02:07 |
wanghao_ | okay | 02:08 |
wanghao_ | zhenguo: agree | 02:08 |
zhenguo | we need to decide which one should must be done by P, and which can be moved to Q | 02:08 |
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zhenguo | we can disucss the details on the next topic | 02:10 |
zhenguo | ok, not much of announcement, anyone else have a thing here? | 02:10 |
zhenguo | shaohe_feng: do you have something want to share about the OpenStack Days China, hah | 02:11 |
shaohe_feng | zhenguo: I just want to says the Mogan presentation is well | 02:12 |
liusheng | hah | 02:12 |
zhenguo | shaohe_feng: lol | 02:12 |
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zhenguo | Contribution into mogan for the last 30 days | 02:12 |
zhenguo | #link http://stackalytics.com/report/contribution/mogan/30 | 02:12 |
shaohe_feng | so many audience attend the presentation | 02:13 |
zhenguo | but no feedbak from that :D | 02:13 |
wanghao_ | zhenguo: first we have audience, and feedback will coming soon. haha | 02:14 |
zhenguo | wanghao_: hope so | 02:14 |
shaohe_feng | zhenguo: JunWei give a presentation, there's many problem maybe nova can't solve. | 02:14 |
shaohe_feng | zhenguo: let's Mogan do it. | 02:14 |
zhenguo | shaohe_feng: yes, sure | 02:14 |
shaohe_feng | zhenguo: You also attend Junwei's presentation :) | 02:15 |
zhenguo | shaohe_feng: hah, but I just reviewing mogan patches there :D | 02:15 |
zhenguo | ok, let's move on | 02:16 |
zhenguo | #topic task tracking | 02:17 |
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zhenguo | #links https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/MoganWhiteBoard | 02:17 |
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shaohe_feng | well. Focus on Mogan growth, a good PTL | 02:17 |
zhenguo | sahohe_feng: lol | 02:17 |
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zhenguo | wanghao_: seems we only got a Essential priorites on our weekly report | 02:18 |
wanghao_ | zhenguo: yeah, I just put Essential here, but can add other priorites. | 02:18 |
zhenguo | wanghao_: ok, | 02:19 |
zhenguo | sorry, I forgot to paste my aggregates patches last week | 02:19 |
wanghao_ | haha that's ok | 02:19 |
liusheng | seems most aggregate paches are ready :) | 02:20 |
zhenguo | hah, without tests :( | 02:20 |
zhenguo | I will try to finish the aggregates tings this week | 02:20 |
liusheng | cool | 02:20 |
wanghao_ | zhenguo: that could be done soon | 02:21 |
zhenguo | server group will basicly based on that | 02:21 |
zhenguo | hah | 02:21 |
liusheng | yes, I am working on adding server goup models and db apis | 02:21 |
zhenguo | liusheng: thanks | 02:21 |
liusheng | zhenguo: np | 02:22 |
zhenguo | we can use on SQL for server group by leveraging placement | 02:22 |
zhenguo | as we will get one aggregate or a list of aggregate to be scheduled | 02:22 |
zhenguo | *one SQL | 02:22 |
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liusheng | zhenguo: you mean one SQL table ? | 02:23 |
zhenguo | liusheng: no, I mean one placement API | 02:23 |
zhenguo | liusheng: hah | 02:23 |
liusheng | zhenguo: hah | 02:23 |
liusheng | zhenguo: that's right | 02:24 |
zhenguo | liusheng: how's the process of getting rid of nova on tempest | 02:24 |
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zhenguo | liusheng: like ironic standalone | 02:25 |
liusheng | zhenguo: I just testing locally with my patch, seems most tempest tests can be run | 02:25 |
liusheng | zhenguo: but my evn has a bit problem | 02:25 |
liusheng | zhenguo: will test more | 02:25 |
zhenguo | liusheng: ok | 02:25 |
zhenguo | liusheng: maybe need a patch to project-config? | 02:26 |
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liusheng | zhenguo: sure, but I am afraid it may broken gate. hah | 02:26 |
zhenguo | liusheng: hah | 02:26 |
liusheng | zhenguo: before fully local testing | 02:27 |
zhenguo | liusheng: ok, | 02:27 |
zhenguo | wanghao_: the adopting servers patches are ready for testing? | 02:27 |
wanghao_ | zhenguo: my patch is ready, litao's patch is soon I think. | 02:29 |
wanghao_ | he is testing it by himself. | 02:29 |
zhenguo | wanghao_: ok | 02:29 |
liusheng | wanghao_, zhenguo btw, is this patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/455692/ still valuable ? | 02:29 |
patchbot | patch 455692 - mogan - Add tool for adoptting baremetal servers from Nova | 02:29 |
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zhenguo | liusheng: seems yes | 02:30 |
wanghao_ | liusheng: still valuable I tink | 02:30 |
zhenguo | as it's a migration tool | 02:30 |
liusheng | hah, ok, will update it | 02:30 |
wanghao_ | liusheng: that's for copy manage data from nova directly | 02:30 |
liusheng | wanghao_: yes | 02:30 |
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wanghao_ | liusheng: but I think it could be later if you didn't have much time for it. | 02:31 |
wanghao_ | liusheng: we can support it next cycle | 02:31 |
liusheng | wanghao_: yes, seems not urgent stuff | 02:31 |
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zhenguo | hah, it's stuck for a long time, but seems it will not conflict with anything | 02:32 |
wanghao_ | yes haha | 02:32 |
liusheng | zhenguo: yes, I am just waiting for wanghao's patch landed, then consider if it is still valueable | 02:32 |
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zhenguo | liusheng: hah, | 02:33 |
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zhenguo | liusheng: I still don't get a way to delete node from aggregate | 02:34 |
liusheng | zhenguo: maybe we run too fast than placement :( | 02:35 |
zhenguo | liusheng: hah | 02:35 |
zhenguo | liusheng: the PUT there is not really a PUT | 02:35 |
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liusheng | zhenguo: seems only for *add*, right ? | 02:36 |
zhenguo | liusheng: yes | 02:36 |
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zhenguo | liusheng: and then if you want to remove aggregates, the only way is to remove t he rp then add aggregate again | 02:37 |
liusheng | zhenguo: :( | 02:37 |
zhenguo | liusheng: I will try that approach | 02:37 |
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liusheng | zhenguo: hah, I believe placement guys will enrich the related interfaces | 02:38 |
zhenguo | liusheng: yes, then we can move to new interface, but for now, no other ways | 02:39 |
liusheng | zhenguo: yes.. | 02:39 |
zhenguo | liusheng: also will leave a TODO on Mogan side | 02:39 |
liusheng | zhenguo: sure | 02:39 |
zhenguo | ok, so we only have these tasks to be done before Pike? | 02:40 |
zhenguo | any others? | 02:40 |
liusheng | seems nothing else, btw, please take a look on client patches if you have time :) | 02:42 |
zhenguo | liusheng: hah, sure | 02:42 |
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zhenguo | ok, let's move on | 02:44 |
zhenguo | #topic open discussion | 02:44 |
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zhenguo | who's got a thing :) | 02:44 |
liusheng | may call for voting ? :) | 02:45 |
zhenguo | hah | 02:45 |
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zhenguo | is there someone familiar with QingCloud's bare metal service? | 02:45 |
zhenguo | seems worth to try that | 02:46 |
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liusheng | zhenguo: I registered an account long time ago, but did try more. | 02:47 |
zhenguo | liusheng: I also got an account | 02:48 |
wanghao_ | liusheng: need some money for bare metal service I think... | 02:48 |
liusheng | haa | 02:48 |
zhenguo | liusheng: if QingCloud also provide VM and BM as seperated services, we can learn someting from it | 02:48 |
zhenguo | wanghao_: sure | 02:49 |
zhenguo | liusheng: I think it must be seperated services with different API, lol | 02:49 |
liusheng | zhenguo: sure | 02:49 |
zhenguo | ok | 02:50 |
zhenguo | anything else? | 02:50 |
zhenguo | it's almost time, thansk everyone for joinint the meeting! | 02:51 |
zhenguo | thnaks y'all | 02:51 |
zhenguo | #endmeeting | 02:51 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 27 02:51:23 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 02:51 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mogan/2017/mogan.2017-07-27-02.00.html | 02:51 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mogan/2017/mogan.2017-07-27-02.00.txt | 02:51 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mogan/2017/mogan.2017-07-27-02.00.log.html | 02:51 |
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eumel8 | morning | 06:59 |
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ianychoi | eumel8, morning! | 07:01 |
ianychoi | Any other one for I18n meeting today? | 07:01 |
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eumel8 | hi ianychoi! | 07:01 |
eumel8 | lots of topics today, I saw | 07:01 |
ianychoi | eumel8, yes haha :) | 07:02 |
eumel8 | let's start - there is more time to work | 07:03 |
ianychoi | eumel8, okay :) | 07:04 |
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ianychoi | #startmeeting OpenStack I18n Meeting | 07:04 |
openstack | Meeting started Thu Jul 27 07:04:24 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ianychoi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 07:04 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 07:04 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_i18n_meeting' | 07:04 |
ianychoi | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/I18nTeamMeeting#Agenda_for_next_meeting Meeting topic today | 07:04 |
ianychoi | #topic Open reviews | 07:05 |
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ianychoi | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/i18n+status:open | 07:05 |
ianychoi | Those are open reviews currently | 07:05 |
ianychoi | eumel8, would you review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/487206/ , https://review.openstack.org/#/c/486458/ , and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/484111/ ? | 07:05 |
patchbot | patch 487206 - i18n - Add Zanata id to French team member list | 07:05 |
patchbot | patch 486458 - i18n - Rename glossary files to more meaningful names | 07:05 |
patchbot | patch 484111 - i18n - Add information on translation of the i18n guide | 07:05 |
eumel8 | thx, for the links. I will do this | 07:06 |
ianychoi | Thank you. Those reviews need one more +2 for approval | 07:07 |
eumel8 | ok | 07:07 |
eumel8 | other reviews are for Korea only :) | 07:08 |
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ianychoi | There is one more: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/486961/ which needs to investigate in more. Generally it looks fine | 07:09 |
patchbot | patch 486961 - i18n - Update URL home-page in documents according to doc... | 07:09 |
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ianychoi | But I am not sure whether the URL should be "https://docs.openstack.org/i18n/latest/" or "https://docs.openstack.org/i18n/" | 07:09 |
eumel8 | are there more then latest? | 07:11 |
ianychoi | Nope | 07:11 |
ianychoi | But yes - for example https://docs.openstack.org/i18n/latest/ko_KR/ :) | 07:12 |
ianychoi | "/latest", "/ocata" parts are just for suffixes as defined in Docs team | 07:12 |
ianychoi | This is why I am not currently sure whether such prefix needs to be described in setup.cfg or not | 07:13 |
ianychoi | https://docs.openstack.org/i18n/ is redirected to https://docs.openstack.org/i18n/latest | 07:13 |
eumel8 | so there are also /newton, /pike, /ocata ... ? | 07:13 |
ianychoi | For other Docs such install-guides, yes | 07:13 |
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eumel8 | then it makes sense with /latest | 07:14 |
ianychoi | However, for I18n doc, since the doc is contributor guide, the doc will not be branched to latest | 07:14 |
ianychoi | eumel8, what I tell now is then.. how about install-guide in openstack-manuals? | 07:14 |
ianychoi | setup.cfg then can be different with different branches? (e.g., in stable/ocata, the url is /ocata, and in master, the url is .../draft) | 07:15 |
ianychoi | Note that my current review is just for consistency with other setup.cfg files in different repositories | 07:16 |
ianychoi | Except this, I am fine :) | 07:16 |
eumel8 | mhm, but there is only I18n guide and there is already latest version | 07:16 |
eumel8 | ok, will take a look in 486961 | 07:17 |
ianychoi | Thank u - this is the result from http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/docs-specs/specs/pike/os-manuals-migration.html#proposed-change | 07:18 |
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ianychoi | "docs.openstack.org/$project-name/latest – build from master" | 07:19 |
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ianychoi | Hmm, my review perspective might include general Docs team migration guide | 07:20 |
eumel8 | mhm, at the moment I wouldn't approve that change. committer needs to explain as you already mentioned | 07:21 |
ianychoi | eumel8, I see. Let's wait for the reply :) | 07:21 |
eumel8 | yes | 07:21 |
ianychoi | #topic Preparing for Queens PTG and Sydney Summit | 07:22 |
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ianychoi | There will be PTG in September at Denver | 07:22 |
eumel8 | I heart from | 07:23 |
ianychoi | I originally really wanted to go to next PTG but now I think I might be unable to attend to the next PTG | 07:23 |
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ianychoi | PTG would be so great :) | 07:24 |
ianychoi | For me, the first PTG was very nice | 07:24 |
eumel8 | really? | 07:24 |
ianychoi | Yep :) | 07:24 |
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eumel8 | similar to design summit or more? | 07:25 |
ianychoi | Something more | 07:25 |
eumel8 | mhmm, interesting | 07:26 |
ianychoi | For example, During Boston Summit, we met Horizon team PTL and OpenStackAnsible PTL | 07:26 |
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eumel8 | thats true and it was very helpfull | 07:27 |
ianychoi | On February, there were several cross project meetings proposed by me: I18n-Docs, I18n-Horizon-ReleaseMgmt with Horizon plugin development teams, I18n-Infra, and I18n-Infra-OpenStackAnsible | 07:27 |
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eumel8 | we have some new I18n topics to discuss in PTG? | 07:28 |
ianychoi | It was very great to discuss in detail with more time | 07:28 |
ianychoi | We can propose :) | 07:29 |
ianychoi | For example, more on translation checksite | 07:29 |
ianychoi | How to automate ATC status without proposing extra-ATC with infra team | 07:29 |
ianychoi | One more Zanata upgrade before there is new Wildfly | 07:29 |
ianychoi | Horizon translation ratio calculation | 07:30 |
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eumel8 | ok, there are really topics. But we have also I18n people there? Or people from zanata? | 07:32 |
ianychoi | Nope we need to figure out who will attend to go to PTG from I18n and Zanata dev. team | 07:32 |
ianychoi | And.. for presentation, | 07:33 |
ianychoi | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/sydney-2017/vote-for-speakers | 07:33 |
ianychoi | (Sydney Summit) | 07:33 |
ianychoi | I searched using "I18n" keyword, and now there are three presentations | 07:33 |
ianychoi | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/sydney-2017/vote-for-speakers#/19239 | 07:33 |
ianychoi | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/sydney-2017/vote-for-speakers#/20007 | 07:34 |
ianychoi | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/sydney-2017/vote-for-speakers#/20010 | 07:34 |
ianychoi | The first one looks interesting :) It would be much nice if the proposal is accepted and we meet them | 07:35 |
ianychoi | And since Zanata dev. team lives in Austraila (Brisbane, not Sydney but very near), I really hope that Zanata team's presentation is accepted :) | 07:36 |
eumel8 | that must be needed :) | 07:36 |
eumel8 | you know the guys from the first one? | 07:37 |
ianychoi | Nope | 07:37 |
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eumel8 | hehe, somebody is doing I18n ;) | 07:38 |
ianychoi | :) | 07:38 |
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ianychoi | #topic String Freeze periods are really coming | 07:38 |
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ianychoi | It is really coming :) | 07:38 |
ianychoi | I will not run for next PTL and I am now busy, but I would like to announce it through i18n mailing list and language coordinators | 07:39 |
ianychoi | #topic Progress on translate checksite | 07:39 |
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ianychoi | Thanks a lot for attending last infra team meeting, eumel8 ! | 07:40 |
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eumel8 | yes, string freeze - the last magic on the universe and what I have to do as PTL. Maybe we can discuss this later. | 07:40 |
ianychoi | eumel8, +10000 :) | 07:41 |
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eumel8 | infra team meeting was very helpful. I think I have now a plan, a volunteer and a proposal change today. | 07:41 |
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ianychoi | Aha, okay! | 07:41 |
eumel8 | but I'm not 100% sure and there is only a chance that the site is online in 2 weeks | 07:42 |
ianychoi | eumel8, we can do it on the next cycle :) | 07:42 |
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eumel8 | but we're really at the end of the street and I want to push this forward. | 07:43 |
ianychoi | eumel8, I think there are two possible ways: 1) Asking Andy and Rob for helping prepare translate checksite on some infra and 2) Using DevStack for this cycle | 07:43 |
eumel8 | no, I've setup the new interim page with OSA on #link https://i18n.external.otc.telekomcloud.com/ | 07:44 |
ianychoi | 1) includes to find and call for volunteers | 07:44 |
ianychoi | Oh then 2) would be "Using OSA for this cycle" | 07:44 |
eumel8 | I can share crendentials on the mailing list | 07:45 |
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ianychoi | eumel8, great and it would be also nice if you upload https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack-infra/puppet-translation_checksite | 07:46 |
eumel8 | And I want to write the proposal for the infra team. site name is still translate-checksite.openstack.org? | 07:46 |
ianychoi | I think it would make more people forward :) | 07:46 |
eumel8 | ok | 07:47 |
ianychoi | eumel8, It was not mentioned I think. i18n-horizon-checksite.openstack.org might be also a good candidate? | 07:47 |
eumel8 | too long for me. I'm over 40 | 07:48 |
ianychoi | Haha | 07:48 |
ianychoi | Then i18n-checksite.o.o ? | 07:48 |
eumel8 | ok, much better | 07:49 |
eumel8 | then I skip #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/276466/ | 07:49 |
patchbot | patch 276466 - openstack-infra/system-config - Manifest for configuration translation checksite | 07:49 |
ianychoi | If we have time, we can do polls through openstack-i18n mailing list with Horizon and OpenStackAnsible team | 07:49 |
ianychoi | Okay. You can abandon it :) | 07:50 |
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ianychoi | #topic I18n guide translation support is ready! The only thing remained is for documentation :) | 07:50 |
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eumel8 | I wouldn't wait for discussion on mailing list . People can poll in Gerrit :) | 07:50 |
ianychoi | eumel8, okay :) | 07:51 |
ianychoi | #link https://docs.openstack.org/i18n/latest/ | 07:51 |
ianychoi | I18n contributor guide now supports translation! | 07:51 |
ianychoi | Currently there are Korean and Japanese | 07:51 |
eumel8 | no German version, wtf | 07:51 |
ianychoi | eumel8, plz translate in https://translate.openstack.org/iteration/view/i18n/master | 07:52 |
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ianychoi | >=75% (per messages) will automatically show by Gerrit interaction | 07:52 |
ianychoi | Oh German is currently 51.67% (per words)! Great! | 07:53 |
eumel8 | I have translated over 40% but there was no time the last days. Maybe at the weekend | 07:53 |
eumel8 | yes, still 11 pages left | 07:53 |
eumel8 | or 9 | 07:53 |
ianychoi | eumel8, great - thanks a lot for your translation contribution | 07:53 |
eumel8 | you're welcome | 07:53 |
ianychoi | The only remaining thing for such support is Documentation: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/484111/ | 07:54 |
patchbot | patch 484111 - i18n - Add information on translation of the i18n guide | 07:54 |
ianychoi | eumel8, would you review it? Then I would like to close a blueprint: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-i18n/+spec/i18n-guide-translation | 07:54 |
eumel8 | ok, I have it on my list | 07:54 |
ianychoi | #topic Open discussions | 07:55 |
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ianychoi | And.. for PTL section in I18n contributor's guide | 07:55 |
ianychoi | Would you make some time? | 07:55 |
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eumel8 | sure | 07:56 |
ianychoi | How about tomorrow? | 07:56 |
ianychoi | I would be fine on 14:00 UTC tomorrow | 07:57 |
eumel8 | if you vote for https://www.openstack.org/summit/sydney-2017/vote-for-speakers#/19034 ;) | 07:57 |
eumel8 | that makes me able to travel to Sydney | 07:57 |
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ianychoi | Oh great - I will do it :) Sure! | 07:58 |
ianychoi | with basic description :) haha | 07:58 |
eumel8 | company would support the journey | 07:58 |
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ianychoi | Great :) | 07:58 |
eumel8 | Friday 14:00 UTC is fine for me. On #openstack-i18n? | 07:58 |
ianychoi | Yep :) | 07:59 |
eumel8 | great | 07:59 |
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ianychoi | Thanks a lot today meeting | 07:59 |
ianychoi | See u tomorrow, eumel8 ! | 07:59 |
eumel8 | thx ianychoi | 07:59 |
ianychoi | #action ianychoi and eumel8 will discuss on "PTL section" in I18n contributor guide at 14:00 UTC on on July 28 | 08:00 |
ianychoi | #endmeeting | 08:00 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 27 08:00:12 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 08:00 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2017/openstack_i18n_meeting.2017-07-27-07.04.html | 08:00 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2017/openstack_i18n_meeting.2017-07-27-07.04.txt | 08:00 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2017/openstack_i18n_meeting.2017-07-27-07.04.log.html | 08:00 |
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gmann | #startmeeting qa | 08:03 |
openstack | Meeting started Thu Jul 27 08:03:24 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gmann. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:03 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 08:03 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'qa' | 08:03 |
gmann | who all are here today | 08:03 |
andreaf | o/ | 08:03 |
blancos | o/ | 08:03 |
zhufl | o/ | 08:03 |
masayukig | \p | 08:04 |
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andreaf | \o_O/ | 08:04 |
gmann | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/QATeamMeeting#Agenda_for_July_27th_2017_.280800_UTC.29 | 08:04 |
masayukig | heh | 08:04 |
gmann | today agenda ^^ | 08:04 |
* andreaf refurbishing at home may be affecting his mental health | 08:05 | |
gmann | #topic Previous Meeting Action review | 08:05 |
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chandankumar | \o/ | 08:05 |
gmann | no action item from last meeting | 08:05 |
gmann | #topic PTG | 08:05 |
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gmann | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/qa-queens-ptg | 08:06 |
gmann | etherpad for ptg ideas | 08:06 |
gmann | thanks andreaf | 08:06 |
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andreaf | gmann: TheJulia added a topic in there for grenade/ironic - I think the description is clear enough but let me know if you have questions | 08:07 |
gmann | please start writing ideas for PTG discussion | 08:07 |
gmann | yea | 08:07 |
gmann | andreaf, Wednesday - Friday: QA sessions ? | 08:07 |
andreaf | gmann: I'll soon add in there a few standard ones about planning & priorities for various projects | 08:07 |
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andreaf | gmann: yeah - though I think discussion session we can probably squeeze in in a day or two | 08:08 |
gmann | andreaf, QA sessions first 2 days right | 08:08 |
chandankumar | andreaf: we might host a sprint onsite a ptg to split their plugin in a seperate repo one day. | 08:08 |
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chandankumar | might be volunteers from different project can join and do the split together | 08:09 |
andreaf | chandankumar, gmann the first two days will be QA help room | 08:09 |
andreaf | chandankumar, gmann: and my idea was to have a walkthrough session for migrating plugins | 08:09 |
gmann | andreaf, are we targeting all 56 days? not like previous one. cover all sessions discussion on first 2 days and then code sprint with whi all available | 08:09 |
gmann | 56 -> 5 days | 08:09 |
andreaf | chandankumar: but I like the idea also of people coming and doing their migration with our help | 08:10 |
andreaf | gmann: heh 56 sounded a bit too long :P | 08:10 |
gmann | heh:) | 08:10 |
andreaf | gmann: yeah so Monday Tuesday is help room, so no QA team internal discussions / sessions | 08:11 |
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chandankumar | andreaf: added one more point to tempest plugin split walkthrough | 08:11 |
andreaf | gmann: Wed and maybe Thursday QA team sessions | 08:11 |
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andreaf | gmann: the rest sprint | 08:11 |
gmann | andreaf, but if we target last 3 days for sessions etc then it will conflict with other projects sessions | 08:11 |
gmann | like nova for me | 08:11 |
gmann | i thought it will be like atlanta PTG | 08:11 |
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chandankumar | i will be joining tripleo and kolla session if needed, i want to have a topic on how to test tempest in kolla | 08:12 |
andreaf | gmann: well you should have told that ttx when he proposed this planning :) | 08:12 |
gmann | oh | 08:12 |
gmann | i missed something on ML | 08:12 |
andreaf | gmann: I'm sure we can find a schedule that works | 08:12 |
andreaf | gmann: would you be attending all of the nova sessions? | 08:13 |
gmann | andreaf, not all but most of them may be | 08:13 |
andreaf | gmann: uhm ok that might be an issue but I don't think we can address it until we have more concrete details on sessions & co | 08:13 |
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gmann | hummm | 08:14 |
andreaf | gmann: if there's no alternative we can still put some session in the first two days | 08:14 |
andreaf | the thing is that also in the 1st two days there'll be conflicts - with all the SIG / WG sessions going on | 08:15 |
andreaf | like API WG interop WG and others | 08:15 |
gmann | yea, mostly inter project things | 08:15 |
andreaf | gmann: so we'll have to do a bit of magic with the planning | 08:15 |
gmann | and QA is in horizontal projects | 08:15 |
andreaf | gmann: once we have a good idea about what we want to discuss as a team we can do a better plan | 08:16 |
gmann | ok | 08:16 |
* gmann need to check ML. missed imp one seems | 08:16 | |
gmann | anyways let's move. ll check the details | 08:17 |
gmann | all, add your ideas in this etherpad #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/qa-queens-ptg | 08:18 |
andreaf | gmann: tbh no planning will be perfect - I think ttx proposal is quite reasonable | 08:18 |
gmann | #topic Gate Stability | 08:18 |
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gmann | andreaf, yea but i did not know horizontal and vertical things changed | 08:18 |
gmann | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/pike-gate-issue-categotisation | 08:19 |
gmann | seems like no assignee on this except chandankumar | 08:20 |
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gmann | on thing came on gate for stable branch and grenade testing for cinder mainly where data_utils changes broke them | 08:20 |
gmann | we reverted that and i sent mail also about fixing their stable branches | 08:21 |
gmann | and pushed many of the stable branches fix | 08:21 |
gmann | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-July/120086.html | 08:21 |
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gmann | i mentioned about 1 month time to fix | 08:22 |
gmann | cinder fix is already merged | 08:22 |
gmann | i hope 1 month time is enough | 08:22 |
masayukig | gmann: thanks, do you need volunteers? | 08:23 |
gmann | masayukig, for review mainly. projects has to merge their submitted patches | 08:23 |
gmann | and same thing going to happen with this also #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/486830/ | 08:24 |
patchbot | patch 486830 - tempest - Remove deprecated test.idempotent_id decorator | 08:24 |
masayukig | gmann: ok, feel free to ping me for that reviews. | 08:24 |
gmann | we have pushed fixed on all plugin on master branch | 08:24 |
gmann | masayukig, those are on tempest plugin side | 08:24 |
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masayukig | gmann: yeah, | 08:25 |
gmann | but not sure how to address stable branches fixes | 08:25 |
andreaf | gmann: we're getting quite close to having a good surface of stable interfaces, hopefully this won't be so much of a problem in the future | 08:25 |
masayukig | gmann: but I think it's better than nothing :) | 08:25 |
gmann | masayukig, thanks. list is in ML #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-July/120086.html | 08:25 |
gmann | andreaf, hope so but for test.idempotent_id same issue will come for stable branches | 08:26 |
masayukig | gmann: ok, I put them on my list | 08:26 |
gmann | will ML information work? i do not think plugins care or read that :) | 08:26 |
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gmann | qa team fixing by ourself on master branch, only thing they have to do is cherry pick if they want | 08:27 |
andreaf | gmann: if we tag the project in the email I think it's good - it doesn't hurt to go into the IRC channel and ping folks directly as well though | 08:27 |
gmann | but that did not happen for data_utils with 5 month time period | 08:27 |
gmann | andreaf, humm. ok | 08:27 |
andreaf | gmann: yeah we probably waited a bit too long there - what's your proposal otherwise? | 08:28 |
gmann | andreaf, i do not have any other, i think we can do that as max. | 08:28 |
gmann | we donot want to break gate even its issue on plugin side | 08:29 |
gmann | i was thinking , i can backport fix for test.idempotent_id also and ping project on ML or IRC about merge if needed | 08:30 |
gmann | and when we remove test.idempotent_id and anyone break we do not revert and ask their stable branch patch to merge | 08:30 |
gmann | is it ok? | 08:30 |
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gmann | andreaf, or you want like we did for scenario manger, keep posting to pending projects | 08:32 |
gmann | and remove only once all are done | 08:32 |
andreaf | gmann: sounds like a good plan - only I think we need to advertise it to the ML | 08:33 |
andreaf | gmann: how many plugins will be affected you think? | 08:33 |
andreaf | gmann: for scenario it was a bit different since we wanted to do a lot of changes to scenarios (which we didn't yet) and the idea was to decouple as much as possible | 08:34 |
gmann | andreaf, number might be large. need to check where all we merged | 08:34 |
gmann | andreaf, +1 for ML advertising etc | 08:34 |
gmann | #action gmann to send ML for upcoming removal of deprecated interfaces and its affect on stable branches | 08:35 |
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gmann | anything else on gate things ? | 08:36 |
gmann | #topic Specs Reviews | 08:36 |
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gmann | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/qa-specs,n,z | 08:36 |
andreaf | no topic Tempest today? | 08:37 |
gmann | i started review on HA spec #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/443504/ | 08:37 |
patchbot | patch 443504 - qa-specs - Added spec for high availability testing | 08:37 |
andreaf | never mind - I'd like reviews and comments on https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/tempest+branch:master+topic:prepare_clients_stable | 08:37 |
andreaf | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/tempest+branch:master+topic:prepare_clients_stable | 08:37 |
gmann | coming :) | 08:37 |
gmann | as discussed in last meeting, we will have 2 spec for HA 1. for idea, 1. arch | 08:38 |
andreaf | gmann: great we need to review specs before the PTG so that we are prepared to talk about them there if needed | 08:38 |
gmann | andreaf, yea | 08:38 |
andreaf | I haven't done that yet though | 08:38 |
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gmann | i will concentrate on next week as feature freeze on other projects today | 08:39 |
gmann | #topic Tempest | 08:39 |
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* andreaf just realises we were talking about spec reviews not critical reviews :S | 08:39 | |
gmann | andreaf, go head now | 08:39 |
andreaf | So we have the patches for credential providers merged now, which is great thanks all for the good work on that | 08:40 |
gmann | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/tempest+branch:master+topic:prepare_clients_stable | 08:40 |
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andreaf | There are a few more patches to be done to finish the work of making test.py stable | 08:41 |
andreaf | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/487482/ | 08:41 |
patchbot | patch 487482 - tempest - Mark credentials_factory stable for plugins | 08:41 |
andreaf | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/486165/ | 08:41 |
patchbot | patch 486165 - tempest - Fix verify config API version checks | 08:41 |
andreaf | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/484384/16 | 08:41 |
patchbot | patch 484384 - tempest - Only set clients when service/api is available | 08:41 |
andreaf | and more to come | 08:41 |
gmann | andreaf, thanks. nice work | 08:41 |
andreaf | the last one I wanted to have comments on - since it may be controversial - but I think it's for the best | 08:42 |
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gmann | sure | 08:42 |
andreaf | the idea is to only set the client aliases in the Manager object if a service / api version is available | 08:42 |
gmann | sure i will check tomorrow | 08:42 |
andreaf | which means that if a test forgets to declare a service as a dependency or if it relies on an outdated version we will know | 08:42 |
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gmann | andreaf, i added few comments on etherpad for stable test module - https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tempest-test-module-stable | 08:43 |
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andreaf | the patch breaks one of the puppet jobs because of murano though but since murano is installed from release I don't think we have any alternative other than break that and fix it later | 08:44 |
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gmann | ok | 08:44 |
gmann | but will they break before tempest release | 08:45 |
andreaf | gmann: thanks for the comments | 08:45 |
* gmann 15 min left | 08:45 | |
andreaf | gmann: I don't like having to make clients.py stable, but I see no alternative - not doing that would require a large amount of work on both tempest and plugins | 08:45 |
andreaf | and no-one as the time to do that - and I really want this work to be finished by end of Pike | 08:46 |
andreaf | so we can start queens with stable interfaces done and thinking about something else | 08:46 |
gmann | andreaf, yea, that is huge work | 08:46 |
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andreaf | gmann: we might still do it over time and end up deprecating clients.py | 08:46 |
andreaf | gmann: but I would not bet on that | 08:46 |
gmann | andreaf, +1 for that. we are doing lot of work for stable interface things and fixing plugin | 08:47 |
gmann | ok | 08:47 |
gmann | let's move next. time is less. | 08:47 |
gmann | Bug Triage | 08:47 |
gmann | masayukig, your turn this week | 08:47 |
gmann | go ahead | 08:47 |
masayukig | yeah, | 08:47 |
gmann | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tempest-weekly-bug-report | 08:48 |
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masayukig | gmann: thanks | 08:48 |
gmann | andreaf, sorry for moving further in case i stopped you writing more | 08:48 |
masayukig | now, the number of new bugs is 3. Not so bad count | 08:48 |
andreaf | it's ok | 08:48 |
gmann | masayukig, nice, thanks | 08:48 |
andreaf | but you missed the #topic command | 08:49 |
gmann | andreaf, its under tempest only :) | 08:49 |
masayukig | And I actually didn't do that much for that.. :-p | 08:49 |
gmann | masayukig, any key bug or something | 08:49 |
andreaf | gmann: ah right - sorry | 08:49 |
masayukig | gmann: I don't see that so far. | 08:49 |
gmann | ok | 08:50 |
masayukig | But high importance bugs are still 7 | 08:50 |
gmann | next week it is mkopec | 08:50 |
gmann | #topic Patrole | 08:50 |
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gmann | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/patrole | 08:50 |
gmann | blancos, anything to bring up | 08:51 |
blancos | gmann Nothing at the moment | 08:51 |
gmann | ok | 08:51 |
gmann | anyone else want to discuss on patrole ? | 08:51 |
gmann | #topic Critical Reviews | 08:52 |
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gmann | any more critical reviews other than andreaf mentioned about stable cred one | 08:52 |
andreaf | not really critical but nice to have I think | 08:54 |
andreaf | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/352292/ | 08:54 |
patchbot | patch 352292 - tempest - Try to register all service clients | 08:54 |
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andreaf | better error handling for service client registration from plugins | 08:54 |
gmann | ok | 08:54 |
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gmann | andreaf, any plugin moved to new way of service client registration ? | 08:55 |
gmann | let's discus under open | 08:55 |
gmann | #topic Open Discussion | 08:55 |
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andreaf | gmann: manila folks are looking into it | 08:55 |
gmann | nice | 08:55 |
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andreaf | but I hope to advertise that a bit as well during the PTG as part of the migration to a dedicated repo | 08:55 |
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gmann | andreaf, +1 nice idea | 08:56 |
chandankumar | +1 | 08:56 |
andreaf | I propose a hands-on session on that for Sydney as well (writing a plugin that depends on multiple plugins) | 08:56 |
masayukig | ++ | 08:56 |
gmann | cool | 08:56 |
masayukig | (for both) | 08:56 |
chandankumar | taking neutron case would be interesting | 08:57 |
zhufl | cool | 08:57 |
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andreaf | the tricky bit for service clients from plugins is that they are not marked as stable interfaces like tempest ones | 08:57 |
chandankumar | neutron have lots of dependent plugins | 08:57 |
andreaf | but I also think once they work nicely they are not likely to change either | 08:57 |
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gmann | humm, hope so | 08:57 |
gmann | 2 min left, anything else to bring up | 08:58 |
chandankumar | nothing from my side | 08:58 |
masayukig | nope | 08:58 |
andreaf | I mentioned in the last meeting that I'm considering office hours | 08:58 |
andreaf | as alternative to meetings | 08:58 |
gmann | ok | 08:59 |
andreaf | but I have investigate further into that | 08:59 |
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andreaf | and also I'd like to hear opinion from everyone | 08:59 |
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andreaf | just something to think about until next meeting :) | 08:59 |
masayukig | not bad idea | 08:59 |
chandankumar | good idea | 08:59 |
gmann | andreaf, did not get completely, you mean more early ? | 08:59 |
gmann | let's move to qa channel. | 09:00 |
gmann | thanks all | 09:00 |
gmann | #endmeeting | 09:00 |
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masayukig | yup | 09:00 |
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openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2017/qa.2017-07-27-08.03.txt | 09:00 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2017/qa.2017-07-27-08.03.log.html | 09:00 |
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mriedem | #startmeeting nova | 14:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Thu Jul 27 14:00:13 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mriedem. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova' | 14:00 |
dansmith | o/ | 14:00 |
bauzas | \o | 14:00 |
edleafe | \o | 14:00 |
takashin | o/ | 14:00 |
sdague | o/ | 14:00 |
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mriedem | ok let's get started | 14:01 |
efried | o/ | 14:01 |
mriedem | #link agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova | 14:01 |
mriedem | #topic release news | 14:01 |
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cdent | o- | 14:01 |
mriedem | #link Pike release schedule: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/Pike_Release_Schedule | 14:01 |
mriedem | #info July 27 (today!!!) is feature freeze, final python-novaclient release, pike-3 milestone | 14:02 |
mriedem | i'll be posting the final release request for python-novaclient after the meeting | 14:02 |
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mriedem | the pike-3 tag is going to be held up on getting the claims in the scheduler patch merged | 14:02 |
mriedem | #info Blueprints: 65 targeted, 64 approved, 33 completed (+4 from last week) | 14:03 |
mriedem | oh that's actually old | 14:03 |
mriedem | #undo | 14:03 |
openstack | Removing item from minutes: #info Blueprints: 65 targeted, 64 approved, 33 completed (+4 from last week) | 14:03 |
jaypipes | o/ | 14:03 |
mriedem | #info Blueprints: 62 targeted, 61 approved, 44 completed (+11 from last week) | 14:04 |
mriedem | so things are winding down | 14:04 |
mriedem | #link Pike feature freeze blueprint tracker etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-pike-feature-freeze-status | 14:04 |
mriedem | any questions about the release? | 14:04 |
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mriedem | alright moving on | 14:05 |
* gibi lurks | 14:05 | |
mriedem | #topic bugs | 14:05 |
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mriedem | no critical bugs | 14:05 |
mriedem | #info 59 new untriaged bugs (down 64 from last week - thanks sdague and others for helping with bug triage) | 14:05 |
mriedem | #info Starting to tag bugs for pike-rc-potential: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.tag=pike-rc-potential | 14:05 |
mriedem | gate status is pretty ok for nova changes | 14:06 |
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mriedem | the functional test craziness seems to have dropped off a bit | 14:06 |
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mriedem | which is maybe due to the 401 auth middleware hack, and the wsgi intercept stuff | 14:06 |
mriedem | thanks cdent for helping with that | 14:07 |
mriedem | #link Trying to fix the Ironic CI jobs: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/487458/ | 14:07 |
patchbot | patch 487458 - ironic - Don't use multicell setup for any ironic jobs | 14:07 |
mriedem | ^ looks like it's finally passing | 14:07 |
cdent | there’s another wsgi intercept change up, for osapi, but I assume we’ll want to wait on that one? | 14:07 |
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mriedem | cdent: seems we can wait for now | 14:07 |
bauzas | we have the placementfixture since a while, so I'm a bit surprised it could be hitting races now | 14:07 |
bauzas | but anyway | 14:08 |
mriedem | bauzas: the placement fixture wasn't used in the functional tests globally until <2 weeks ago | 14:08 |
mriedem | when it was added to the IntegratedHelpers mixin | 14:08 |
mriedem | which is the base mixin for like 90% of functional tests | 14:08 |
mriedem | anywho | 14:08 |
bauzas | that's correct, only a few functional tests wereusing it | 14:08 |
mriedem | #link 3rd party CI status http://ci-watch.tintri.com/project?project=nova&time=7+days | 14:09 |
bauzas | anywho | 14:09 |
mriedem | i don't have any news on 3rd party ci | 14:09 |
mriedem | questions/comments about bugs? | 14:09 |
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mriedem | #topic reminders | 14:09 |
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mriedem | #link Consider signing up for the Queens PTG which is the week of September 11 in Denver, CO, USA: https://www.openstack.org/ptg | 14:09 |
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mriedem | #link Queens PTG ideas etherpad https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-ptg-queens | 14:10 |
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mriedem | ^ is totally unordered | 14:10 |
mriedem | i just needed to get some ideas down somewhere | 14:10 |
mriedem | #info PTL nominations for Queens start next week (July 31 - Aug 9): https://governance.openstack.org/election/ | 14:11 |
jaypipes | mriedem: you might ask cdent to fix that unordered thoughts problem. | 14:11 |
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jaypipes | mriedem: you running? | 14:11 |
cdent | que? | 14:11 |
mriedem | jaypipes: don't put baby in the corner | 14:11 |
jaypipes | cdent: I was alluding to your unit test fixes on that move operation patch ;) | 14:12 |
jaypipes | mriedem: sorry honey. | 14:12 |
* cdent doesn’t do allusions when coughing | 14:12 | |
mriedem | i'll do PTL again for queens if no one else wants it | 14:12 |
mriedem | if anyone has questions about PTL stuff for queens and want to ask privately, feel free | 14:13 |
mriedem | moving on | 14:13 |
mriedem | #topic stable branch status | 14:13 |
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mriedem | #link stable/ocata: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/ocata,n,z | 14:13 |
mriedem | #link stable/newton: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/newton,n,z | 14:13 |
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mriedem | there is no real news here, i'll push for stable reviews prior to rc1 | 14:13 |
mriedem | since we do a stable release around then too | 14:13 |
bauzas | mriedem: no news about a possible EOL for newton ? | 14:14 |
mriedem | no | 14:14 |
bauzas | cool then | 14:14 |
mriedem | i think that's a ways off | 14:14 |
mriedem | 2017-10-11 | 14:14 |
mriedem | https://releases.openstack.org/ | 14:14 |
mriedem | yeah we have a few months for newton | 14:14 |
bauzas | oh right, gtk | 14:14 |
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bauzas | mriedem: thanks | 14:14 |
mriedem | #topic subteam highlights | 14:14 |
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mriedem | dansmith: anything you'd like to highlight for cells v2 besides no meeting? | 14:15 |
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dansmith | just that we merged the devstack patch, | 14:15 |
dansmith | and less drama than last time but ironic was still broken and they didn't realize, | 14:15 |
dansmith | but I think we've got them on a path to recovery at this point | 14:15 |
dansmith | which is pretty awesome | 14:15 |
dansmith | that's about it I think | 14:15 |
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mriedem | a 12 step program to recovering from cells? | 14:16 |
dansmith | heh | 14:16 |
dansmith | from ironic | 14:16 |
mriedem | #link cells v2 todos https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-pike-cells-v2-todos | 14:16 |
dansmith | oh, | 14:16 |
dansmith | I could highlight my doc patch for critical eyeballs | 14:16 |
mriedem | yup | 14:16 |
mriedem | was just going to do that | 14:16 |
dansmith | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/487183/ | 14:16 |
patchbot | patch 487183 - nova - Add some more cellsv2 doc goodness | 14:16 |
mriedem | also, cfriesen has a fix up for unshelving with cellsv2 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/486208/ | 14:17 |
patchbot | patch 486208 - nova - Ensure we unshelve in the cell the instance is mapped | 14:17 |
mriedem | i'm +2 | 14:17 |
* jaypipes looks | 14:17 | |
mriedem | ok moving on | 14:17 |
mriedem | edleafe: scheduler? | 14:17 |
edleafe | Scheduler subteam meeting was just a recap of outstanding patches. | 14:17 |
edleafe | Reviews are focused on Jay's claims in the scheduler series, starting with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/487589/ | 14:17 |
patchbot | patch 487589 - nova - placement: account for move operations in claim | 14:17 |
edleafe | Still working out the claim workflow for new instance vs. moving an instance | 14:17 |
edleafe | Decided that the next steps (returning alternate hosts, returning allocation_requests) will wait until Queens. | 14:17 |
edleafe | "Th-Th-The, Th-Th-The, Th-Th... That's all, folks!" | 14:17 |
mriedem | ok i'm +2 on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/487589/ since i was last night, only changes since have been the sorting fixes for the tests | 14:18 |
patchbot | patch 487589 - nova - placement: account for move operations in claim | 14:18 |
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bauzas | I need to see Jenkins first | 14:18 |
mriedem | we need to see a good run with the claims in the scheduler change and check the logs to make sure the migration/resize tests are doing ok with it | 14:18 |
bauzas | yeah that | 14:18 |
mriedem | also, gibi is working on a functional test for some of the stuff that is going on in these two changes | 14:19 |
cdent | gibi++ | 14:19 |
mriedem | to do a resize confirm/revert and make sure allocations are cool both ways | 14:19 |
bauzas | oh man, s/Jenkins/jobs :) | 14:19 |
gibi | sure | 14:19 |
bauzas | so used to say J after 5 years of thinking Hudson :) | 14:20 |
mriedem | but as https://review.openstack.org/#/c/483566/ is holding up pike-3, we need re-review on that to make sure we are ok with what's there while the tests run | 14:20 |
patchbot | patch 483566 - nova - claim resources in placement API during schedule() | 14:20 |
mriedem | i think the -1s are handled in the change below | 14:20 |
mriedem | moving on | 14:20 |
mriedem | alex_xu: api? | 14:20 |
alex_xu | we talk about the things should be merged before FF | 14:21 |
bauzas | mriedem: that's why I want to see the logs before removing my -1 | 14:21 |
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mriedem | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/api-no-more-extensions-pike is complete | 14:21 |
alex_xu | #1 novaclient 2.53, #2 the left patches of no more extension | 14:21 |
alex_xu | all of those are merged | 14:21 |
cdent | no more extensions!!!! yay! | 14:22 |
mriedem | the wsgi_log_format option deprecation is merged too | 14:22 |
sdague | nice job alex_xu | 14:22 |
alex_xu | also talk about some api doc in the devref should be updated, that will continue after FF | 14:22 |
mriedem | the only other thing to do now is update the docs for the api plugins and stable api pages | 14:22 |
alex_xu | mriedem: yea | 14:22 |
alex_xu | sdague: thanks | 14:23 |
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mriedem | alex_xu: ok is that all? | 14:23 |
alex_xu | also talk about a bug from Kevin_Zheng | 14:23 |
alex_xu | #link https://review.openstack.org/486850 | 14:23 |
patchbot | patch 486850 - nova - Wrong href link returned when providing non-existe... | 14:23 |
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alex_xu | we should correct the URL in the version API, sdague also suggestion return 404 for invalid path. Then probably just needs to review the patch | 14:24 |
alex_xu | mriedem: that is all now :) | 14:24 |
mriedem | thanks | 14:24 |
mriedem | gibi: notifications? | 14:24 |
gibi | The bp additional-notification-fields-for-searchlight is completed for Pike. We will open a follow up bp for Queens. | 14:24 |
gibi | The rest of the notification transformation patches also needs to move under a Queens bp. | 14:25 |
gibi | Nothing critical is missing from the current master for Pike from notification perspective. | 14:25 |
gibi | But we are still working on some bugs like #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1684860 | 14:25 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1684860 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Versioned server notifications don't include updated_at" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Balazs Gibizer (balazs-gibizer) | 14:25 |
gibi | That is all | 14:25 |
mriedem | the fix for ^ is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/475276/ and has a +2 from me | 14:25 |
patchbot | patch 475276 - nova - Add 'updated_at' field to InstancePayload in notif... | 14:25 |
mriedem | if someone else can take a look | 14:25 |
mriedem | moving on | 14:25 |
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mriedem | nova/cinder stuff | 14:26 |
mriedem | there are 2 changes left | 14:26 |
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mriedem | the live migration patch from stvnoyes https://review.openstack.org/463987 | 14:26 |
patchbot | patch 463987 - nova - update live migration to use v3 cinder api | 14:26 |
mriedem | which has had quite a bit of testing and review already | 14:26 |
mriedem | and the api change at the end of the series https://review.openstack.org/330285 | 14:26 |
patchbot | patch 330285 - nova - Implement new attach Cinder flow | 14:26 |
mriedem | i'm -1 on ^ because there are a bunch of blockdev errors in the logs on that one, so something regressed in the new flow there, and jgriffith is investigating | 14:27 |
mriedem | i think it's safe to say at least that last one isn't going to make pike at this point | 14:27 |
mriedem | but i'm hopeful for early queens | 14:27 |
mriedem | #topic stuck reviews | 14:28 |
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mriedem | there was nothing on the agenda, so does someone have a patch they need to mention here? | 14:28 |
mriedem | ok then | 14:28 |
mriedem | #topic open discussion | 14:29 |
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darland | Hello everyone, me and my team have written following spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/486947/ | 14:29 |
mriedem | there is one item | 14:29 |
patchbot | patch 486947 - nova-specs - SPEC: nova disk quota tracking | 14:29 |
darland | so, we are looking for review | 14:29 |
sdague | mriedem: did you get any clarity on all the doc urls being 404? | 14:29 |
mriedem | darland: one point i'll make regarding timing, | 14:29 |
darland | this spec is about adding quota for root and ephemeral disc storage allocated to VM during boot based on flavor's value | 14:30 |
mriedem | darland: today is feature freeze for pike, so most people are focused on that, and will be focused on stabilizing and documenting pike for the rc1 in 2 weeks | 14:30 |
mriedem | darland: queens specs likely won't get any attention for a few weeks | 14:30 |
mriedem | darland: if anyone from your team is going to be at the PTG you can add it as a topic here https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-ptg-queens | 14:30 |
darland | that's is ok | 14:31 |
mriedem | dansmith: sdague: jaypipes: any obvious historical reasons we haven't tracked disk quota in the past? | 14:31 |
sdague | mriedem: nothing that I remember | 14:31 |
dansmith | there's no quota on disk? | 14:31 |
mriedem | no | 14:31 |
sdague | other than the horrible inaccuracies around shared storage | 14:31 |
jaypipes | mriedem: no idea. it's news to me, actually :( | 14:31 |
mriedem | sdague: same | 14:31 |
dansmith | that seems really odd to me | 14:31 |
mriedem | the problem being the PhD you need to know how much disk is used and where | 14:32 |
mriedem | based on the flavor and bfv | 14:32 |
sdague | yeh, mostly I think it's just a hard counting problem. The autosizing disks as well. | 14:32 |
darland | mriedem: none of us, our team, is going to be at PTG | 14:32 |
mriedem | darland: ok | 14:33 |
sdague | darland: who is your team? | 14:33 |
mriedem | darland: maybe shop the idea around the operators community too to see if anyone has a need for this as well, or already implemented a solution | 14:33 |
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darland | sdague: sberbank dev group | 14:34 |
sdague | darland: cool, thanks | 14:34 |
mriedem | darland: there is an upcoming ops meeting, | 14:34 |
mriedem | might also be worth trying to get discussion ther | 14:34 |
mriedem | *there | 14:34 |
mriedem | s/meeting/meetup/ | 14:34 |
bauzas | there are old traces | 14:34 |
bauzas | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/nova-disk-quota-tracking | 14:34 |
mriedem | https://www.eventbrite.com/e/mexico-city-openstack-operators-meetup-tickets-34989052197 | 14:35 |
sdague | honestly, is it controversial? I feel like the concept is ++ | 14:35 |
sdague | it's just sorting out the details of making it accurate | 14:35 |
bauzas | the fact is, looks like disk quota is more Cinder-ish | 14:35 |
bauzas | as per the findings Google gives me | 14:35 |
sdague | bauzas: that's the issue in the spec. You can do it with cinder, if you make your entire environment bfv for everything | 14:36 |
mriedem | i don't know if it's controversial, but i also don't know if there was a good reason for not having it years ago | 14:36 |
sdague | but they want it to work with cloudy things | 14:36 |
sdague | mriedem: I would not assume there was a good reason | 14:36 |
bauzas | https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/8518/disk-quota-for-projects/ has an answer | 14:36 |
bauzas | but not for local disks | 14:36 |
bauzas | assuming those are cheap, maybe? | 14:36 |
sdague | I would just assume we never had reasonable enough storage accounting to make it viable | 14:37 |
bauzas | probably yeah | 14:37 |
jaypipes | darland: as sberbank is Mirantis' customer, we can work together to discuss it at the PTG (I'll be in Denver) | 14:37 |
dansmith | I dunno, in the early days, | 14:37 |
dansmith | storage accounting was much simpler | 14:37 |
dansmith | so I'm really surprised we don't have it from the local-only days, and it's just really wrong now | 14:37 |
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sdague | pre folsom... I'm not that surprised :) | 14:38 |
dansmith | um, what? | 14:38 |
dansmith | I'm saying before bfv and ceph, | 14:38 |
dansmith | when most of the quotas stuff was done, | 14:38 |
dansmith | accounting for how much disk you were using was much more straightforward | 14:38 |
mriedem | ok, so it sounds like there are some threads to pull - the mechanics of how to actually do this based on the variables involved has to be hashed out, especially now that we're counting quotas | 14:38 |
sdague | yeh, it just looks like quotas were only ever implemented on block devices | 14:39 |
sdague | probably because rax didn't need them for ephemeral | 14:39 |
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dansmith | I'd expect that disk was never a limiting factor | 14:39 |
sdague | yep | 14:39 |
dansmith | too cheap to care | 14:39 |
bauzas | yup | 14:39 |
bauzas | (16:36:57) bauzas: assuming those are cheap, maybe? | 14:39 |
mriedem | ok so if there is nothing else i say we get back to it | 14:40 |
sdague | yep, so we shouldn't assume there was any good reason. Move forward as ++ on the idea. Details need to be ironed out | 14:40 |
sdague | mriedem: docs 404? | 14:40 |
mriedem | sdague: https://review.openstack.org/487863 | 14:40 |
patchbot | patch 487863 - openstack-manuals - Update sitemap | 14:40 |
sdague | mriedem: will that also put in redirects? | 14:40 |
sdague | also, my browser is crashing trying to open that file | 14:40 |
mriedem | i'm not sure, but that's what AJaeger said was one thing that needed to be done | 14:41 |
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mriedem | i expect we'll have to put in redirects | 14:41 |
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mriedem | i made a note about that in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-pike-cells-v2-todos L5 | 14:41 |
mriedem | this is how suse wins all the LOC championships right? :) | 14:42 |
mriedem | 18K lines of xml | 14:42 |
mriedem | ok anything else? | 14:42 |
mriedem | alright thanks everyone | 14:42 |
mriedem | #endmeeting | 14:42 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 27 14:42:59 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:43 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2017/nova.2017-07-27-14.00.html | 14:43 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2017/nova.2017-07-27-14.00.txt | 14:43 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2017/nova.2017-07-27-14.00.log.html | 14:43 |
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e0ne | could anybody please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/441266/? we need it for 'Pike uWSGI goal' | 15:26 |
patchbot | patch 441266 - openstack-dev/devstack - Run cinder-api with uWSGI | 15:26 |
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e0ne | oops. wrong chat | 15:30 |
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ianw | #startmeeting diskimage-builder | 20:01 |
openstack | Meeting started Thu Jul 27 20:01:19 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ianw. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:01 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:01 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: diskimage-builder)" | 20:01 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'diskimage_builder' | 20:01 |
ianw | anyone around? | 20:01 |
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ianw | ok, i will work on the assumption no news is good news | 20:05 |
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clarkb | I don't really have anything | 20:06 |
clarkb | seems like things have been quiet since suse builds mostly work now | 20:06 |
ianw | ok, just stamp some things in the logs | 20:08 |
ianw | #topic Announcements | 20:08 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: diskimage-builder)" | 20:08 | |
ianw | As clarkb mentioned, i think suse is going ok now and working in gate. | 20:09 |
ianw | F26 is working now too. one minor issue with selinux setting | 20:09 |
ianw | leading to 2.7.2 | 20:09 |
ianw | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/482942/ | 20:10 |
ianw | we can go ahead with that, and start nodepool builds | 20:11 |
ianw | i would like to run f26 as python3 testing going forward | 20:11 |
ianw | #topic Action items from last meeting | 20:11 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Action items from last meeting (Meeting topic: diskimage-builder)" | 20:11 | |
ianw | #action ianw to investigate if any old branch jobs use dib on trusty | 20:12 |
ianw | not done yet; no pressing need but we should clean up | 20:12 |
ianw | will look at as time permits | 20:13 |
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ianw | #action ianw setup 3rd party ci group | 20:13 |
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ianw | that was done, ppc added to it | 20:13 |
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ianw | #undo | 20:15 |
openstack | Removing item from minutes: #action ianw setup 3rd party ci group | 20:15 |
ianw | ok then | 20:15 |
ianw | #topic Review Review | 20:15 |
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ianw | I'm not sure there is anything particularly stuck | 20:16 |
ianw | #link https://review.openstack.org/476732 | 20:16 |
ianw | is jamielennox's patch to not use du for size | 20:17 |
ianw | that's actually coming into some stuff yolanda and I are looking at for LVM | 20:17 |
ianw | which is why i haven't pushed on that until i fully understand what's happening there | 20:17 |
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ianw | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/482396 | 20:18 |
ianw | probably should have been clearer i want the nit fixed, marked that | 20:18 |
ianw | #link https://review.openstack.org/487304 | 20:19 |
ianw | Switch openSUSE to 42.3 by default | 20:19 |
ianw | i guess that's fine. the CI mirrors are in place | 20:20 |
ianw | #link https://review.openstack.org/482570 | 20:20 |
ianw | fedora-minimal to f26 ... i will take on board the notes in there before we merge that | 20:20 |
ianw | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/484541/ | 20:21 |
ianw | "enable some off by default checks" | 20:21 |
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ianw | i am ambivalent ... will comment. not clear if this is part of something else | 20:22 |
ianw | #topic Open Discussion | 20:24 |
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ianw | prometheanfire says "ianw: I may be tasked with making a coreos ironic image and building it into dib seems like the right choice" | 20:24 |
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ianw | so if you're googling "coreos" and "diskimage-builder" and read this, reach out | 20:25 |
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ianw | yolanda (mostly) and I will continue work on LVM support | 20:26 |
ianw | there has been some discussion around config file format | 20:26 |
ianw | i've been trying to get good unit tests, with mocked out steps, before engaging with that too much | 20:27 |
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ianw | the config format seems secondary to actually making the right calls to pv/vg/lv[create] underneath in the right order, etc | 20:27 |
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ianw | i think that's enough then | 20:34 |
ianw | next meeting is scheduled for european 15:00 time | 20:34 |
ianw | aug 10 | 20:34 |
ianw | #endmeeting | 20:34 |
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 20:34 | |
openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 27 20:34:50 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:34 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/diskimage_builder/2017/diskimage_builder.2017-07-27-20.01.html | 20:34 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/diskimage_builder/2017/diskimage_builder.2017-07-27-20.01.txt | 20:34 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/diskimage_builder/2017/diskimage_builder.2017-07-27-20.01.log.html | 20:34 |
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kevinbenton | aloha! | 22:01 |
mlavalle | o/ | 22:01 |
amotoki | hi | 22:01 |
* ihrachys waves from the ground | 22:01 | |
kevinbenton | #startmeeting neutron_drivers | 22:01 |
openstack | Meeting started Thu Jul 27 22:01:27 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is kevinbenton. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 22:01 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 22:01 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_drivers' | 22:01 |
armax | ihrachys: you broke your chair? | 22:01 |
kevinbenton | this week is feature freeze | 22:02 |
ihrachys | armax, no, just falling asleep | 22:02 |
kevinbenton | starting next week any feature related things that need to merge will have to get an FFE | 22:02 |
armax | oh | 22:02 |
armax | boooo | 22:02 |
kevinbenton | excluding simple things like docs | 22:02 |
kevinbenton | or additional API tests are always welcome | 22:03 |
kevinbenton | etc | 22:03 |
armax | kevinbenton: how are you planning to handle FFE requests? | 22:03 |
ihrachys | what's the process? email to openstack-dev? | 22:03 |
kevinbenton | yeah, email to openstack-dev | 22:03 |
armax | well, I used to do it when preparing the postmortem | 22:04 |
kevinbenton | who decided before, the ptl? | 22:04 |
armax | but you’re free to do it differently | 22:04 |
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kevinbenton | let me think about it and i'll let you know next week | 22:04 |
kevinbenton | before I forget, let's take a quick look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1705719 because the patches are ready to go | 22:05 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1705719 in neutron "[RFE] QinQ network driver" [Wishlist,Triaged] - Assigned to Trevor McCasland (twm2016) | 22:05 |
kevinbenton | (well are at least close when i reviewed yesterday) | 22:05 |
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ihrachys | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/neutron+branch:master+topic:bug/1705719 | 22:07 |
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* armax goes back to the discussion we had last week | 22:07 | |
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ihrachys | the change will break everyone who based their type drivers on SegmentTypeDriver. smth to consider close to the end of the cycle. | 22:08 |
ihrachys | http://codesearch.openstack.org/?q=SegmentTypeDriver&i=nope&files=&repos= | 22:09 |
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ihrachys | bagpipe in the list | 22:09 |
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kevinbenton | ihrachys: i'm not sure segmenttypedriver changes with the refactor | 22:09 |
ihrachys | the argument to __init__ changes from db model to OVO | 22:10 |
kevinbenton | oooh | 22:10 |
ihrachys | look here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/483020/3..5/neutron/plugins/ml2/drivers/helpers.py | 22:10 |
kevinbenton | the OVO component | 22:10 |
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kevinbenton | ihrachys: don't we need that in the switch to OVO anyway? | 22:11 |
ihrachys | it's a good change, just a churn at the end of cycle, that's all I have to say. | 22:11 |
kevinbenton | ihrachys: i suppose we can put in a compatibility shim if we are worried that detects if what is passed in is OVO | 22:11 |
ihrachys | we'll need to advertise to consumers; prepare patch for bagpipe at least | 22:11 |
ihrachys | I asked about that before in the patch, not sure if any of that happened | 22:11 |
armax | kevinbenton: in the last meeting you said this driver will be used by the srviov mech driver | 22:12 |
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armax | but I see no link anywhere | 22:12 |
kevinbenton | armax: i don't think they have that part up yet | 22:13 |
armax | OK, but shouldn’t that be captured somewhere so that we can more meaningfully review the code that’s currently under review? | 22:13 |
armax | what if we screw up the migration? | 22:13 |
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kevinbenton | what migration? | 22:13 |
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armax | the DB migration | 22:13 |
armax | I mean what if we overlook a detail in the model because we don’t have the full picture | 22:14 |
kevinbenton | so we can't approve the RFE until we see an implementation? | 22:14 |
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armax | no | 22:14 |
kevinbenton | i'm fine blocking from merging this cycle | 22:14 |
armax | I didn’t say that | 22:14 |
kevinbenton | if there is no impl | 22:15 |
armax | but the RFE has nothing | 22:15 |
armax | except a skinny description | 22:15 |
armax | no spec either | 22:15 |
kevinbenton | isn't that the point of an RFE? | 22:15 |
kevinbenton | describe the use case | 22:15 |
amotoki | RFE itself is a feature request. If it turns out we need more discussion on the direction of the implemention during review, can't we switch to a blueprint? | 22:16 |
armax | the use case mention nothing of SRIOV | 22:16 |
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armax | the RFE’s description is rather inadequate IMO to understand what’s going on | 22:16 |
armax | I quote | 22:17 |
armax | We can implement this by first refactoring VLAN's allocation logic and then extending it to handle a second layer of VLAN tagging. Essentially replacing vlan_id with a s_tag:c_tag pair | 22:17 |
kevinbenton | because that's an implementation detail? | 22:17 |
armax | that’s not even supposed to be in tehre | 22:17 |
armax | OK, ignore me | 22:17 |
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kevinbenton | did we lose him? | 22:17 |
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armax | it’s not an implementation detail | 22:18 |
armax | it’s an important part of the end-to-end solution required for the feature being requested | 22:18 |
armax | it helps us understand what documentation is required etc | 22:18 |
kevinbenton | armax: put what you want to see on the RFE and we can come back to it next week when he replies | 22:19 |
armax | well, do you first agree with me? | 22:19 |
kevinbenton | talking about which driver should be supported feels like an implementation detail to me | 22:19 |
armax | otherwise I am not gonna waste my time | 22:20 |
amotoki | agree on armax's point. this is on implementation approach. | 22:20 |
armax | but that defeats the point of the whole RFE process | 22:20 |
armax | which you’re diluting to making it a rubberstamping process | 22:20 |
kevinbenton | armax: no, RFE is IMO a user story thing | 22:20 |
armax | if we go straight to review without even looking at the bigger picture | 22:20 |
armax | dude, have you read the description of the RFE? | 22:21 |
kevinbenton | i don't want to have this conversation again | 22:21 |
kevinbenton | we can ask what driver the implementation needs to be for on the RFE | 22:21 |
kevinbenton | and discuss next week | 22:21 |
armax | for what it’s worth | 22:21 |
armax | I don’t see why we’re even refactoring at this point | 22:21 |
armax | we might as well better off duplicating allocation logic as of now | 22:22 |
armax | as refactoring feels like an early optmization | 22:22 |
armax | that said, I don’t even understand why it’s in the RFE description | 22:22 |
armax | I am somewhat concerned taht we’re shortcutting the process and that may backfire spectacurlarly | 22:23 |
armax | that’s all | 22:23 |
armax | I am voicing my concern | 22:23 |
armax | you seem like annoyed that I do | 22:23 |
armax | so kick me out of the team let’s be done with this farce | 22:23 |
kevinbenton | i don't like RFE's getting too bogged down with implementation details | 22:24 |
kevinbenton | i agree that the mention of the refactor should be removed | 22:24 |
armax | an RFE should describe a use case | 22:24 |
armax | a use case is a description of a step-wise process of interaction between user and system or system to system | 22:24 |
armax | it doesn’t have to have implementation details | 22:25 |
armax | but I see no use case there | 22:25 |
kevinbenton | QinQ encap for isolation of vlans | 22:25 |
armax | if you magically see it, then enlighten us, that’s all I am asking | 22:25 |
armax | OK, never mind | 22:25 |
armax | let’s move on | 22:26 |
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kevinbenton | let's you get out of the 4096 limit | 22:26 |
armax | let’s move on | 22:26 |
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kevinbenton | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?field.status%3Alist=Triaged&field.tag=rfe | 22:26 |
kevinbenton | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1604222 | 22:27 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1604222 in neutron "[RFE] Implement vlan transparent for openvswitch ML2 driver" [Wishlist,Triaged] | 22:27 |
kevinbenton | so at this point, I don't think we have anyone to implement this | 22:27 |
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kevinbenton | However, IIRC we switched to using push/pop vlan in the OVS agent | 22:28 |
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kevinbenton | so once we have a version with qinq support maybe it will magically work? | 22:28 |
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kevinbenton | either way, i think this will just have to go to rfe-deferred | 22:29 |
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kevinbenton | anyone disagree? | 22:29 |
ihrachys | go for it. we can revive. | 22:30 |
amotoki | I wonder what is the difference between this and QinQ RFE.. | 22:30 |
mlavalle | yes let's postpone | 22:30 |
kevinbenton | amotoki: QinQ rfe is neutron allocating the inner and outer tags | 22:30 |
amotoki | kevinbenton: ah I see! | 22:30 |
kevinbenton | this one is just encapsulating whatever the tenant gives in neutron provided encap | 22:30 |
amotoki | QinQ as a big range of labels. | 22:31 |
kevinbenton | yeah | 22:32 |
kevinbenton | amotoki: this is called QinQ because internally OVS needs the support to double-tag | 22:32 |
amotoki | on the other hand, in this rfe, tenants specify inner tag and neutron assign outer tag. | 22:32 |
kevinbenton | yep | 22:32 |
amotoki | i totally understand | 22:32 |
kevinbenton | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1669630 | 22:33 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1669630 in neutron "Network RBAC acceptance workflow" [Wishlist,Triaged] | 22:33 |
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kevinbenton | not sure what state that should go into | 22:33 |
kevinbenton | just postponed until Adrian reaches out with time? | 22:33 |
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mlavalle | yes | 22:33 |
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kevinbenton | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1682247 | 22:34 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1682247 in neutron "Neutron should be able to fetch hostkeys for ports" [Wishlist,Triaged] | 22:35 |
kevinbenton | mordred: you happen to be around? | 22:35 |
kevinbenton | I'm thinking we can go to rfe-postponed for now on this one | 22:35 |
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mordred | kevinbenton: yes - that's fine - it'll be a little while until I can get to that one again | 22:38 |
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mlavalle | he mentioned a couple of weeks ago that he was contemplating an alternative | 22:43 |
mlavalle | so if we don't hear from him, it is reasonable to postponoe | 22:43 |
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kevinbenton | thoughts? | 22:44 |
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amotoki | sounds good to postpone | 22:45 |
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clarkb | kevinbenton: you missed a couple lines from mlavalle but mlavalle is back so will let them replay for you | 22:45 |
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kevinbenton | oh, my bouncer might have disconnected as well | 22:45 |
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mlavalle | yeah, there was a lag | 22:45 |
clarkb | kevinbenton: yes, excess flood | 22:45 |
kevinbenton | i didn't get anything from anyone since i started blathering | 22:46 |
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clarkb | last message was which would obviate the need for this spec then disconnect then connect then thoughts? | 22:46 |
mlavalle | I ended up re-connecting | 22:46 |
kevinbenton | holy crap! | 22:46 |
kevinbenton | i wrote a whole story about another spec | 22:46 |
kevinbenton | :) | 22:46 |
kevinbenton | one sec | 22:46 |
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clarkb | kevinbenton: ya whcih you pasted and flooded out | 22:46 |
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clarkb | kevinbenton: so you'll need to paste a few lines at a time to avoid being kicked | 22:47 |
kevinbenton | clarkb: i think my bouncer actually had the connection issue and then dumped them all at once | 22:47 |
kevinbenton | ok | 22:47 |
kevinbenton | here it comes | 22:47 |
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kevinbenton | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1689830 | 22:47 |
ihrachys | freenode was dead for me for a while, I guess it's everyone | 22:47 |
kevinbenton | So we got more details on https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1689830 | 22:47 |
kevinbenton | use case is that you have multiple tenants on a shared network | 22:47 |
kevinbenton | and they want to run VRRP between their VMs or some kind of IP sharing mechanism like it | 22:47 |
mlavalle | ihrachys: yeah, it wasn't only you | 22:47 |
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kevinbenton | so each VM needs to be able to use the shared IP | 22:47 |
kevinbenton | normally you would add this to allowed_address_pairs | 22:48 |
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kevinbenton | but currently we block that on shared networks because you can add any address you want to allowed_address_pairs, including those of other tenants' ports | 22:48 |
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kevinbenton | So this RFE is to provide a mechanism to only allow addresses that are not in use by other tenants | 22:48 |
kevinbenton | Right now I'm thinking we should just have a separate attribute from allowed address pairs with completely independent API validation/policy | 22:48 |
kevinbenton | To avoid overcomplicating the allowed address pairs code | 22:48 |
kevinbenton | thoughts? | 22:48 |
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kevinbenton | (end of message) :) | 22:48 |
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openstack | Launchpad bug 1689830 in neutron "[RFE] advanced policy for allowed addres pairs" [Wishlist,Triaged] | 22:49 |
kevinbenton | This might even be a good time to formalize the notion of a port impersonated by another port | 22:49 |
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kevinbenton | like an attribute on the port called 'can_impersonate' which takes a list of other port UUIDs | 22:50 |
amotoki | or we can allow to specify a port to allowed-address-pair of another port. | 22:50 |
kevinbenton | amotoki: yeah, i think we're suggesting the same thing | 22:51 |
kevinbenton | by cross referencing another port directly we don't have to worry about stale IPs in allowed address pairs if a tenant deletes the shared port | 22:51 |
kevinbenton | armax: how do you feel about the use case now the submitter clarified? | 22:52 |
mlavalle | and the port specified in allowed address pairs is also owned by the same tenant | 22:52 |
kevinbenton | mlavalle: right | 22:52 |
armax | it’s fine | 22:52 |
kevinbenton | standard forcing tenant match unless your an admin | 22:53 |
mlavalle | correct | 22:53 |
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amotoki | mlavalle: do you think a port on a different network can be speciifed? | 22:53 |
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amotoki | i am not sure it works well. | 22:53 |
kevinbenton | i think no | 22:53 |
mlavalle | me neither | 22:53 |
amotoki | in a same page | 22:54 |
kevinbenton | let me capture this in the RFE and see if that would work for the submitter | 22:54 |
amotoki | i just confirmed what means by "by the same tenant".... | 22:54 |
kevinbenton | and we can maybe target this for Queens | 22:54 |
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kevinbenton | amotoki: yeah, logic would be regular user can only setup a port to impersonate another port on the same network with the same tenant | 22:54 |
mlavalle | that's right | 22:55 |
kevinbenton | agent-side code and backends will need to be updated to read from this new attribute so Pike is unrealistic | 22:55 |
amotoki | kevinbenton: yes. this simplifies a workflow: currently a user needs to crete a port to reserve IP address and specify the IP to allowed-addres-pair. | 22:56 |
mlavalle | amotoki: ++ | 22:56 |
kevinbenton | ok, i left a comment | 22:58 |
mlavalle | good | 22:58 |
kevinbenton | we can revisit at next meeting | 22:58 |
kevinbenton | that's all the time we have | 22:58 |
kevinbenton | any last minute announcements or anything? | 22:58 |
mlavalle | not from me? | 22:58 |
kevinbenton | mlavalle: i'm not sure? | 22:58 |
kevinbenton | :) | 22:58 |
mlavalle | I am sure ;-) | 22:58 |
kevinbenton | ok | 22:58 |
kevinbenton | thanks everyone | 22:58 |
mlavalle | LOL | 22:58 |
mlavalle | o/ | 22:58 |
kevinbenton | #endmeeting | 22:59 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 27 22:59:06 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:59 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2017/neutron_drivers.2017-07-27-22.01.html | 22:59 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2017/neutron_drivers.2017-07-27-22.01.txt | 22:59 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2017/neutron_drivers.2017-07-27-22.01.log.html | 22:59 |
amotoki | thanks | 22:59 |
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