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| joehuang | hello | 01:00 |
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| dongfeng | hi | 01:00 |
| Yipei | hi | 01:00 |
| zhiyuan | hello | 01:00 |
| joehuang | #startmeeting | 01:00 |
| openstack | joehuang: Error: A meeting name is required, e.g., '#startmeeting Marketing Committee' | 01:00 |
| joehuang | #startmeeting tricircle | 01:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed May 3 01:00:40 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is joehuang. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 01:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 01:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: tricircle)" | 01:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tricircle' | 01:00 |
| joehuang | #topic rollcall | 01:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "rollcall (Meeting topic: tricircle)" | 01:00 | |
| joehuang | #info joehuang | 01:00 |
| zhiyuan | #info zhiyuan | 01:00 |
| Yipei | #info Yipei | 01:00 |
| dongfeng | #info dongfeng | 01:01 |
| RonghUI | #info ronghui | 01:01 |
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| yinxiulin_ | #info xiulin | 01:01 |
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| joehuang | #topic Pike-1.5 (May.2) review | 01:01 |
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| joehuang | hello, pike 1.5 (3.2.0) has been tagged on May.2 | 01:02 |
| hejiawei | #info jiawei | 01:02 |
| joehuang | The gate/check test was blocked by devstack update | 01:02 |
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| joehuang | after the issue is fixed, you can try pike1.5 locally through devstack | 01:03 |
| joehuang | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/458020/ | 01:03 |
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| joehuang | devstack has removed auth_uri, identity_admin | 01:04 |
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| zhiyuan | I noticed that multi-region test failed | 01:04 |
| joehuang | and they also try to remove /v3 everywhere | 01:04 |
| joehuang | but it doesn't work if we remove /v3 in identity_url in Tricricle | 01:04 |
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| joehuang | for the patches planned to land in Pike 1.5 | 01:05 |
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| joehuang | MUST TO HAVE patches had been merged | 01:05 |
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| joehuang | Include tricircleclient installation, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/437719/ also merged | 01:06 |
| joehuang | So tricricleclient can be included after the devstack issue addressed | 01:06 |
| joehuang | #info tricricleclient can be included after the devstack issue addressed | 01:06 |
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| joehuang | Basic devstack gate run script: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/455615/ also get merged | 01:07 |
| joehuang | #info now each patch to be merged needs to pass the smoke test | 01:07 |
| joehuang | Other nice to have patches not being merged yet | 01:08 |
| joehuang | any question or topic about Pike1.5? | 01:09 |
| dongfeng | async job api and doc will be landed in pike 2? | 01:10 |
| joehuang | It's close to merge, maybe one or two more review | 01:10 |
| dongfeng | because the async job api needs online test. after changes I haven't do online test for them because env is crashed. | 01:11 |
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| joehuang | for async job, the job "router" should be "configure_extra_route"? | 01:11 |
| zhiyuan | env crashed? because of the code change? | 01:12 |
| joehuang | "router" is not easy to understande | 01:12 |
| dongfeng | yes, router can be changed to "configure_extra_route". | 01:12 |
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| dongfeng | to zhiyuan, the devstack setup failed. | 01:12 |
| dongfeng | so I doesn't tricircle env to do test. | 01:13 |
| dongfeng | so I doesn't have tricircle env to do test. | 01:13 |
| joehuang | ok | 01:13 |
| zhiyuan | "configure_extra_route" can be changed to "extra_route" for short | 01:13 |
| hejiawei | devstack setup also failed in Trio2o | 01:14 |
| joehuang | ok | 01:14 |
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| dongfeng | so, the job type for router will be changed to "extra_route"? | 01:14 |
| RonghUI | for | 01:14 |
| joehuang | to Dongfeng +1 | 01:15 |
| dongfeng | ok, got it. | 01:15 |
| joehuang | I wondering whether need to update the code too | 01:15 |
| RonghUI | for some Trio2o it also failed in devstack setup for same reason | 01:15 |
| joehuang | Trio2o is not the topic in Tricircle's meeting | 01:15 |
| joehuang | let's focus on Tricircle in this meeting | 01:16 |
| hejiawei | Ok | 01:17 |
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| zhiyuan | we now have smoke test, so I think it's safe to change it | 01:17 |
| dongfeng | you mean change the async job api? | 01:17 |
| joehuang | async job API has already added with functional test cases | 01:18 |
| dongfeng | but for functional test, the xrpcapi is mocked. | 01:19 |
| joehuang | for the "router" job, seems extra-route is not exactly what the job did | 01:19 |
| zhiyuan | to dongfeng, I mean changin the job type constant from "router" to a more proper one | 01:19 |
| joehuang | it also will configure host route | 01:19 |
| zhiyuan | so "configure_routes" ? | 01:20 |
| joehuang | good | 01:20 |
| joehuang | both for extra routes and host routes | 01:20 |
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| joehuang | to Dongfeng, how do you think about the rename of the job? | 01:21 |
| dongfeng | it's no difficult | 01:22 |
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| dongfeng | I can apply such changes asap | 01:22 |
| joehuang | #info update the "router" job to "configure_route" | 01:23 |
| zhiyuan | hi joe, for the identity_url format, I found an example to use keystoneauth module: "auth = v3.Password(auth_url='https://my.keystone.com:5000/v3'" | 01:23 |
| dongfeng | got it. | 01:23 |
| zhiyuan | version is included in the url | 01:23 |
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| joehuang | you have to configure the "v3" in the auth_url | 01:24 |
| joehuang | #topic feature implementation review | 01:24 |
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| joehuang | hello, please update your progress about the feature implementation in short | 01:25 |
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| dongfeng | 1)the async job api needs further modification. 2) the doc for async job api is there(better to have more comments) 3) the release note for async job api is there. | 01:26 |
| Yipei | for lbaas, the amphora is always be deleted by health manager, and fails to boot a new one | 01:27 |
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| Yipei | i think there are some issue in health manager configuration | 01:28 |
| joehuang | to Yipei, amphora is not heathy, so it's kicked by the health manager | 01:28 |
| Yipei | to joehuang, yes | 01:28 |
| joehuang | maybe | 01:28 |
| RonghUI | for QoS spec, the newest version has been update this morning | 01:28 |
| Yipei | i am trying to reconfigure the health manager | 01:28 |
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| Yipei | but the authentication issues is a new trouble | 01:29 |
| joehuang | ok, the more frequent you update the patch, the more review will be done, and so that your patch can get merged early | 01:29 |
| hejiawei | for metering spec, zhiyuan have some comments to it, I need update it. | 01:29 |
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| joehuang | authentication needs to be updated | 01:30 |
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| joehuang | identity_url = http://162.3.124.203/identity/v3 auth_url = http://162.3.124.203/identity | 01:31 |
| joehuang | if you use latest devstack | 01:31 |
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| Yipei | already change the url in the existing env, but still does not work. i think i need to reinstall my env | 01:32 |
| joehuang | ok | 01:32 |
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| joehuang | for feature implementation, please move fast, so that not to miss pike 2 | 01:33 |
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| dongfeng | ok. | 01:33 |
| Yipei | ok, got it | 01:33 |
| yinxiulin_ | i am update trunk patch | 01:34 |
| hejiawei | ok | 01:35 |
| yinxiulin_ | and implement sfc patch | 01:35 |
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| joehuang | #topic Open Discussion | 01:36 |
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| joehuang | now the time for open discussion | 01:36 |
| joehuang | any topic? | 01:36 |
| dongfeng | no for me. | 01:37 |
| zhiyuan | I propose to chage the db query to api query after the job api is merged, for our smoke test | 01:37 |
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| zhiyuan | currently we are using db query to check if there is failure | 01:37 |
| joehuang | great | 01:38 |
| joehuang | and more smoke test cases can be added | 01:38 |
| zhiyuan | the problem of db query is that we need to adapt different db backend | 01:39 |
| joehuang | the async job redo multi-tenancy issue also need to be checked | 01:39 |
| dongfeng | it seemed the tricircle meeting in America is going to be held. is there any channel like etherpad or irc? | 01:39 |
| joehuang | #info update db query to api query from smoke test | 01:39 |
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| joehuang | to Dongfeng, this summit has two meeting tricircle is involved | 01:40 |
| joehuang | one is presentation "when one cloud is not enough...", the other one is project on-boarding | 01:40 |
| joehuang | no design summit session in the Boston OpenStack summit | 01:40 |
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| joehuang | yes, for the Boston summit, may we skip next weekly meeting ? | 01:41 |
| joehuang | and I also want to get more feedback on Tricircle from operators and developers in Boston OpenStack summit | 01:42 |
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| dongfeng | if any video about the presentation, please share. :) | 01:42 |
| joehuang | Youtube | 01:43 |
| dongfeng | fine | 01:43 |
| joehuang | Because "when one cloud is not enough..." is one official session, I am sure they will record the video and publish on Youtube | 01:43 |
| joehuang | but for project on-boarding, I am not sure video will be recorded or not | 01:43 |
| joehuang | #info share Boston summit video if there is | 01:44 |
| joehuang | #info skip next weekly meeting for OpenStack summit | 01:45 |
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| dongfeng | ok. | 01:46 |
| joehuang | one more information | 01:46 |
| joehuang | the environment for OPNFV to use tricircle to help application high availability across OpenStack clouds are ready | 01:46 |
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| joehuang | and the PoC demo is accepted by OPNFV | 01:47 |
| joehuang | https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/16Qfm3D1yhrW31ZEVRYea8mcyKI06fQ3a6Okk4VhFGkQ/ | 01:47 |
| joehuang | I think OPNFV foundation may provide hardware facility in OPNFV summit for the demo | 01:48 |
| joehuang | any other topic? | 01:49 |
| zhiyuan | no from me | 01:49 |
| dongfeng | no for me. | 01:49 |
| RonghUI | no for me | 01:49 |
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| joehuang | ok, thank you for attending the meeting | 01:51 |
| joehuang | #endmeeting | 01:51 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed May 3 01:51:41 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 01:51 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tricircle/2017/tricircle.2017-05-03-01.00.html | 01:51 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tricircle/2017/tricircle.2017-05-03-01.00.txt | 01:51 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tricircle/2017/tricircle.2017-05-03-01.00.log.html | 01:51 |
| joehuang | bye | 01:51 |
| dongfeng | bye~ | 01:51 |
| hejiawei | bye | 01:52 |
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| dkushwaha_ | tbh: I think no meeting today, as gongysh not availabel. | 05:38 |
| tbh | dkushwaha_, yes, I think so | 05:38 |
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| trinaths | tbh dkushwaha_ no meeting today. | 05:39 |
| dkushwaha_ | trinaths: yup | 05:40 |
| tbh | trinaths, oh okay, thanks for letting me know | 05:40 |
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| smcginnis | #startmeeting Cinder | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed May 3 16:00:01 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is smcginnis. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Cinder)" | 16:00 | |
| smcginnis | ping dulek duncant eharney geguileo winston-d e0ne jungleboyj jgriffith thingee smcginnis hemna xyang1 tbarron scottda erlon rhedlind jbernard _alastor_ bluex karthikp_ patrickeast dongwenjuan JaniceLee cFouts Thelo vivekd adrianofr mtanino karlamrhein diablo_rojo jay.xu jgregor baumann rajinir wilson-l reduxio wanghao thrawn01 chris_morrell watanabe.isao,tommylikehu mdovgal ildikov wxy viks | 16:00 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'cinder' | 16:00 |
| viks | hi | 16:00 |
| smcginnis | ketonne abishop sivn breitz | 16:00 |
| xyang1 | Hi | 16:00 |
| e0ne | hi | 16:00 |
| mdovgal | hi | 16:00 |
| tommylikehu | hi | 16:00 |
| smcginnis | Hey everyone | 16:00 |
| ildikov | o/ | 16:00 |
| wxy| | hi | 16:00 |
| patrickeast | Hi | 16:00 |
| jungleboyj | o/ | 16:00 |
| smcginnis | #topic Announcements | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: Cinder)" | 16:01 | |
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| smcginnis | Summit/Forum is next week. | 16:01 |
| smcginnis | I hope to see a lot of folks there. | 16:01 |
| Swanson | Hi | 16:01 |
| smcginnis | If you are giving a Cinder talk, please prepare. :) | 16:01 |
| * jungleboyj has only been doing that lately. ;-) | 16:02 | |
| smcginnis | Also time to note - we are about a month out then from milestone 2. | 16:02 |
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| smcginnis | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-spec-review-tracking Review focus | 16:02 |
| bswartz | .o/ | 16:02 |
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| smcginnis | A few priority things listed in the etherpad are still in progress. | 16:02 |
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| smcginnis | Biggest thing coming up to pike-2 is the new drivers, but I think the ones that are making an effort are already in a good shape. | 16:03 |
| smcginnis | 2-3 or those I think may be abandoned efforts. | 16:03 |
| smcginnis | That's all I have for announcements. | 16:03 |
| smcginnis | #topic Volume migrate with the new attach/detach API | 16:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Volume migrate with the new attach/detach API (Meeting topic: Cinder)" | 16:03 | |
| smcginnis | ildikov: Are you available for this? | 16:04 |
| ildikov | smcginnis: tnx :) | 16:04 |
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| smcginnis | jgriffith: If you are around, could be useful having your background. | 16:04 |
| ildikov | so in the light of the new attach/detach API, I wanted to talk abou tthis call back in Cinder: https://github.com/openstack/cinder/blob/master/cinder/volume/api.py#L1457 | 16:04 |
| ildikov | which goes down to this call in the manager.py: https://github.com/openstack/cinder/blob/master/cinder/volume/manager.py#L1905 | 16:05 |
| diablo_rojo | Hello:) | 16:05 |
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| ildikov | as we have completely new call in full depth we need to cover the volume_migrate_completion in the new API | 16:05 |
| ildikov | which gives us room to rethink anything we want with this call | 16:06 |
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| ildikov | so I brought this up here today to see what the team thinks about this one | 16:06 |
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| ildikov | the basic plan is to look into the current attach/detach calls and figure out how it works with Nova, like we have now detach and terminate_connection covered by one single call, which is attachment_delete | 16:07 |
| smcginnis | I think some of the most recent folks to touch the migrate code have left. Anyone with experience in that area? | 16:07 |
| tommylikehu | upgrade this call to make attachment_id as one of its argument will help? | 16:08 |
| e0ne | smcginnis: I understand how old code works but need some more time to get throw a new one:( | 16:08 |
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| e0ne | ildikov: looks like a good plan to start with | 16:09 |
| smcginnis | e0ne: Great! | 16:09 |
| ildikov | e0ne: at this point any help is very much appreciated! | 16:09 |
| e0ne | tommylikehu: IMO, it will this code even more complicated that it is | 16:09 |
| ildikov | e0ne: so if you know the old code then I'll ping you later to see how to make it work with the new API | 16:10 |
| jungleboyj | ildikov: Yeah, it seems like it should be updated to use the new API. | 16:10 |
| e0ne | ildikov: not sure that I'll be very helpful this week, but we can discuss all the issues at the summit or the week after it | 16:10 |
| ildikov | e0ne: are you attending the Summit? | 16:10 |
| e0ne | ildikov: sure. ping me in irc if I'm online | 16:10 |
| e0ne | ildikov: yes | 16:10 |
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| ildikov | e0ne: awesome, discussing it face to face would be even better if you're not fully booked | 16:11 |
| e0ne | at least, I've got approved talk, and booked flight and hotel | 16:11 |
| jungleboyj | e0ne: That is good. | 16:11 |
| smcginnis | We can try to pull together a little group at the summit if that helps. | 16:11 |
| ildikov | e0ne: sounds good! :) | 16:11 |
| e0ne | ildikov: it's pretty important thing for the cinder, so I find a time for it for sure | 16:11 |
| ildikov | smcginnis: my thinking exactly | 16:11 |
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| ildikov | smcginnis: will bring it up on the Cinder-Nova meeting tomorrow to see who buys in | 16:12 |
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| jungleboyj | ildikov: ++ | 16:12 |
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| jungleboyj | ildikov: Where do we want to fit this in the priorities? | 16:12 |
| smcginnis | ildikov: Good plan. | 16:12 |
| e0ne | ildikov: what is a time of nova's meeting? | 16:12 |
| ildikov | jungleboyj: priorities of the Cinder-Nova work you mean? | 16:12 |
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| jungleboyj | ildikov: Yes. | 16:13 |
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| ildikov | e0ne: it's tomorrow 1600 UTC | 16:13 |
| ildikov | e0ne: #openstack-meeting-cp | 16:13 |
| e0ne | ildikov: noted, thanks | 16:13 |
| ildikov | jungleboyj: it would be rather urgent in the sense of we want to cover the detach cases before moving forward with attach and in that sense I don't want to leave this hanging | 16:13 |
| jungleboyj | ildikov: Ok, that makes sense. | 16:14 |
| ildikov | jungleboyj: we will see though how much work it is in Cinder, I hope it will not be that complicated | 16:14 |
| smcginnis | ildikov: Right. As it is now, I think we cover the majority of workflows with the new API. But if someone tries migrate, it looks like that may cause issues as it is now. | 16:14 |
| ildikov | jungleboyj: I'm not that good with hoping though nowadays, plz try not to prove me wrong :) | 16:15 |
| diablo_rojo | smcginnis, you can book a hacking room for this | 16:15 |
| jungleboyj | ildikov: No losing hope now! | 16:15 |
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| ildikov | smcginnis: with John we gave a little bit of thought to it and it seems that migrate is the only outstanding one | 16:15 |
| e0ne | :) | 16:15 |
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| smcginnis | ildikov: Good. I couldn't think of any other cases, but I always miss something. ;) | 16:16 |
| ildikov | diablo_rojo: it is on my TODO list already if we can come up with a rough idea when we could get together :) | 16:16 |
| ildikov | smcginnis: I share that feeling! | 16:16 |
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| diablo_rojo | ildikov, cool :) here is the link if you need it | 16:16 |
| diablo_rojo | https://ethercalc.openstack.org/Boston_Forum_Hacking_Rooms | 16:16 |
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| ildikov | diablo_rojo: awesome, thank you! | 16:17 |
| diablo_rojo | np | 16:17 |
| ildikov | smcginnis: I think we covered what we could for this topic today | 16:17 |
| jungleboyj | ildikov: Thanks for bringing it up. | 16:17 |
| ildikov | if no one has any further questions/comments | 16:18 |
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| smcginnis | ildikov: Thanks | 16:18 |
| smcginnis | We can follow up in the channel and at the summit then. | 16:18 |
| smcginnis | #topic Detach with no connector - is it valid | 16:18 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Detach with no connector - is it valid (Meeting topic: Cinder)" | 16:18 | |
| ildikov | smcginnis: +1, thanks | 16:18 |
| smcginnis | This was an issue a lot of us hit with a new tempest test added. | 16:18 |
| smcginnis | tempest.api.volume.admin.test_volumes_actions.VolumesActionsTest.test_force_detach_volume | 16:18 |
| smcginnis | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1686278 Bug report | 16:19 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1686278 in Cinder "tempest.api.volume.admin.test_volumes_actions.VolumesActionsTest.test_force_detach_volume failed" [Undecided,New] | 16:19 |
| smcginnis | The crux of the issue being it calls detach without providing a connector. | 16:19 |
| e0ne | in general, we don't need force detach at all | 16:19 |
| smcginnis | And most drivers don't know what to do if a connector isn't provided. | 16:19 |
| e0ne | but sometimes (compute host is down) we have to use it | 16:19 |
| smcginnis | e0ne: That's probably the main use case I would guess? | 16:20 |
| e0ne | smcginnis: I hope so | 16:20 |
| e0ne | smcginnis: is it an issue with a new APIs? | 16:20 |
| bswartz | if there's more than one attachment, which one is detached? | 16:20 |
| eharney | geguileo has been working on some force detach related stuff here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/459454/ | 16:20 |
| bswartz | all of them? | 16:20 |
| smcginnis | bswartz: Exactly | 16:20 |
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| eharney | please ask him about that when he gets back next week before deciding we don't need force detach... | 16:20 |
| e0ne | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/459454/ | 16:20 |
| e0ne | eharney: we can't just drop force detach for sure | 16:21 |
| smcginnis | My question for now is actually, is it valid to call it with a connector of None? | 16:21 |
| e0ne | eharney: we need it now and, I guess, it will be useful for some ironic use-cases too | 16:21 |
| smcginnis | And if so, what is our expectations for backend drivers to do in that case. | 16:21 |
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| bswartz | unless we define that to mean remove all attachments I don't see how it could be valid | 16:21 |
| bswartz | and removing all attachments might not match the intended semantics | 16:22 |
| smcginnis | bswartz: That was my thought. Swanson didn't like it though. :) | 16:22 |
| bswartz | because if you have an active user and a dead user and you only want to kill the dead user's attachment... | 16:22 |
| bswartz | you need a way to do that | 16:22 |
| smcginnis | I would think we would at a minimum need to make sure the api-ref is very clear that if that is not provided, it means whack it all. | 16:22 |
| e0ne | smcginnis: +1 | 16:23 |
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| e0ne | if we don't allow multiattach - it should be pretty easy: only once consumer could access to the volume | 16:24 |
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| smcginnis | True | 16:24 |
| * bswartz understands why multiattach makes people crazy | 16:24 | |
| jungleboyj | e0ne: Yeah, in that case it seems to mean whack all connections. | 16:24 |
| jungleboyj | :-) | 16:24 |
| e0ne | :) | 16:24 |
| jungleboyj | So, do we fix this up to mean that now and then deal with multi-attach when we get there? | 16:25 |
| e0ne | what about to allow force detach only if connection info is available? | 16:25 |
| jungleboyj | Could disallow force detach on multi-attached volume? | 16:25 |
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| smcginnis | That's the only sensible expectation I can think of for now. | 16:25 |
| e0ne | jungleboyj: it's definitely an option | 16:25 |
| smcginnis | Either make connectory mandatory, or make sure we all know it means to remove all attachments. | 16:26 |
| bswartz | so I'm forgetting what the new attach API looks like, but isn't there an ID that could be passed in rather than the whole connector? | 16:26 |
| smcginnis | bswartz: Yep, with the new workflow it just needs the ID. | 16:26 |
| e0ne | smcginnis: +1. that what I proposed few lines earlier | 16:26 |
| bswartz | it seems like we should require the connector then, to avoid confusion during multi attach situations | 16:27 |
| e0ne | smcginnis, bswartz: and we get get connector info from the DB with that ID | 16:27 |
| bswartz | it shouldn't be a big burden for API clients to obtain that ID | 16:27 |
| smcginnis | bswartz: Problem is we need to support old and new for now. | 16:27 |
| bswartz | oh shite | 16:28 |
| bswartz | damn backwards-compatibility | 16:28 |
| e0ne | smcginnis: even swe must support all old APIs :( | 16:28 |
| smcginnis | bswartz: I think I actually lean toward not making it mandatory, and our expectation is we would need to remove all attachments if a force-detach is called without specifying which one. | 16:28 |
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| jungleboyj | smcginnis: I lean that way as well. | 16:29 |
| bswartz | well for new versions, make it mandatory, and for older versions, pick any active attachment using some rule | 16:29 |
| bswartz | that way people who don't use multiattach will have zero problems | 16:29 |
| bswartz | and people who do use multiattach will be forced to use the newer API if they want sane behavior | 16:30 |
| smcginnis | bswartz: Well, I don't think we were originally looking at adding a new call for working with the new APIs. | 16:30 |
| smcginnis | bswartz: Just make the existing call work for either. | 16:30 |
| bswartz | just microversion it | 16:30 |
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| e0ne | new mircoversion =! existing API | 16:30 |
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| smcginnis | Microversions solve all the problems. :D | 16:31 |
| * bswartz looks confused | 16:31 | |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: jgriffith would love if we did some more microversions. | 16:31 |
| bswartz | the point of microversions is so you can change existing APIs... | 16:31 |
| e0ne | smcginnis: and add new problems with them :) | 16:31 |
| smcginnis | For now, let's just assume no connector means to remove all attachments. | 16:31 |
| smcginnis | Multiattach or no multiattach. | 16:32 |
| e0ne | jungleboyj: :) | 16:32 |
| e0ne | smcginnis: +1 | 16:32 |
| jungleboyj | e0ne: Seeing if I poke enough he will show up. | 16:32 |
| bswartz | if you lock yourself into a scheme where you can't change existing APIs then you have unsolvable problems like the one we're facing now | 16:32 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: +1 | 16:32 |
| smcginnis | And we'll see if we need to microversion a change on the API once we get closer to actually really supporting multiattach. | 16:32 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: That makes the most sense to me. | 16:32 |
| smcginnis | bswartz: volumev4! | 16:32 |
| smcginnis | Hah | 16:32 |
| * jungleboyj sighs | 16:33 | |
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| * mdovgal is wonder when we will get anniversary 50th microversion is v3 api | 16:33 | |
| diablo_rojo | mdovgal, lol :) | 16:33 |
| e0ne | let's drop attach/detach things in microversion v.404 | 16:33 |
| tommylikehu | lol | 16:33 |
| smcginnis | OK, I'll send out a ML post to help communicate this decision. | 16:34 |
| bswartz | manila is up to version 2.32 | 16:34 |
| * bswartz ducks | 16:34 | |
| smcginnis | #info force-detach without a connector provided should be handled by drivers by removing all attachements. | 16:34 |
| smcginnis | bswartz: We're almost there. | 16:34 |
| e0ne | smcginnis: we have to update API ref too | 16:34 |
| jungleboyj | mdovgal: Sounds like an opportunity for a party. | 16:34 |
| ildikov | smcginnis: we will need microversion for multi-attach and I think by when we get there that can be the 50th anniversary time :) | 16:34 |
| smcginnis | #action smcginnis to communicate this decision on the ML | 16:34 |
| smcginnis | ildikov: Probably | 16:35 |
| smcginnis | e0ne: Right, that should be done right away too. | 16:35 |
| mdovgal | jungleboyj, i will put a pack of beer for this moment :D | 16:35 |
| jungleboyj | ildikov: That will be something to celebrate! | 16:35 |
| smcginnis | #action smcginnis to update api-ref for force-detach to explicitly state this expected behavior. | 16:35 |
| smcginnis | #topic Open Discussion | 16:36 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: Cinder)" | 16:36 | |
| bswartz | smcginnis: weekly IRC meeting canceled next week? | 16:36 |
| smcginnis | Anything else? | 16:36 |
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| ildikov | jungleboyj: for sure :) | 16:37 |
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| smcginnis | bswartz: Hah! | 16:37 |
| e0ne | smcginnis: will we have something like mid-cycle meetup at the Summit? | 16:37 |
| smcginnis | e0ne: There are various Forum sessions, but more cross-project concerns. | 16:38 |
| smcginnis | Nothing really specific to Cinder. | 16:38 |
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| smcginnis | But a bunch of us will be there. | 16:38 |
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| smcginnis | So if there is anything that could benefit from some high bandwidth discussions, the bar^wconference hallway can work. | 16:38 |
| jungleboyj | He he he. | 16:39 |
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| jungleboyj | We got more work done in the bar at the PTG than anywhere else. | 16:39 |
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| smcginnis | There were some productive evening for sure. | 16:40 |
| diablo_rojo | smcginnis, thats what the hacking rooms are for | 16:40 |
| bswartz | diablo_rojo: do the hacking rooms have booze too? | 16:40 |
| diablo_rojo | bswartz, if you bring it ;) | 16:40 |
| Swanson | So, got dragged out for a bit. What was decided on the connector thing? | 16:40 |
| smcginnis | So nothing official for Cinder there, but let's definitely get together in the hacking rooms when free. | 16:41 |
| smcginnis | Swanson: Kill all attachments if it's called without specifying one. | 16:41 |
| bswartz | @! | 16:41 |
| pewp | bswartz (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ | 16:41 |
| jungleboyj | I knew that was coming. | 16:41 |
| smcginnis | hemna got the bot in the meeting room I see. :) | 16:42 |
| Swanson | smcginnis, Ah. That sucks. | 16:42 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: Yep. :-) | 16:42 |
| bswartz | Swanson: +1 | 16:42 |
| smcginnis | Swanson: Because you didn't listen to my advice in the first place? :) | 16:42 |
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| Swanson | smcginnis, Returning FC info might be fun. | 16:43 |
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| smcginnis | Swanson: Returning what was removed from that call? | 16:44 |
| Swanson | smcginnis, I'm raising. I don't care what all's y'all does. Yeah, that stuff. | 16:45 |
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| smcginnis | :) | 16:45 |
| smcginnis | OK, anything else? | 16:45 |
| smcginnis | Oh, I'll just mention I disabled voting on the VMware CI. | 16:46 |
| smcginnis | So if anyone has any patches with that showing a -1, | 16:46 |
| smcginnis | That doesn't prevent it from being able to be merged, | 16:46 |
| xyang1 | smcginnis: great | 16:47 |
| tommylikehu | smcginnis: thanks | 16:47 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: Thanks. | 16:47 |
| smcginnis | But you may want to do a recheck on those if you want it to show up without a red -1 in the list of reviews. | 16:47 |
| Swanson | smcginnis, Nice! Our long national nightmare is over. | 16:47 |
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| smcginnis | Didn't realize it was something we had complete control over. :) | 16:47 |
| kaisers_68 | o/ | 16:47 |
| smcginnis | Thought it was a infra setting somewhere. | 16:47 |
| e0ne | smcginnis: thanks! good news :) | 16:47 |
| smcginnis | Yep! | 16:47 |
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| smcginnis | OK, before we go, just an open plea for anyone and everyone to do reviews. | 16:48 |
| smcginnis | I think our review numbers have really dwindled. | 16:48 |
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| jungleboyj | :-( | 16:48 |
| smcginnis | Just want to point out for any new folks just getting involved, non-core reviews are extremely helpful. | 16:48 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: ++ | 16:48 |
| e0ne | smcginnis: +1 on both notes | 16:49 |
| Swanson | All the reviewers are off on shinny new clouds and/or containers? | 16:49 |
| smcginnis | Even if you don't feel like you know the code well, being able to have more eyes on patches to catch logic errors and things like that really does help. | 16:49 |
| e0ne | smcginnis: low review activities could be caused be summit's preparation too | 16:49 |
| tommylikehu | +1 smcginnis | 16:49 |
| jungleboyj | Also, it is how you learn the project. | 16:49 |
| Swanson | Even if you don't know the code you can always be pedantic about the style. | 16:49 |
| jungleboyj | e0ne: True. | 16:49 |
| smcginnis | e0ne: I hope it does pick up after the summit. | 16:49 |
| smcginnis | Swanson: ;) | 16:49 |
| * jungleboyj just thought of another slide for on-boarding. | 16:49 | |
| e0ne | smcginnis: all of us hope | 16:50 |
| * jungleboyj needs to stop working on this prsentation | 16:50 | |
| smcginnis | For those of you that used it, I have http://cinderstats-dellstorage.rhcloud.com/ updating again. | 16:50 |
| Swanson | jungleboyj, spell check it one more time. | 16:50 |
| smcginnis | The Cinder Open Reviews link is useful to find reviews that have been sitting out there for a long time. | 16:50 |
| jungleboyj | @b Swanson | 16:50 |
| jungleboyj | @!b Swanson | 16:50 |
| pewp | jungleboyj (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ ︵ ╯(°□° ╯) Swanson | 16:50 |
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| e0ne | jungleboyj: good idea. you can start work on my slides now :) | 16:51 |
| Swanson | ;) | 16:51 |
| smcginnis | And the Cinder Review Inbox link off our wiki is very helpful too: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Cinder | 16:51 |
| smcginnis | e0ne: Hah! | 16:51 |
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| e0ne | smcginnis: could you please add brickclient-ext to http://cinderstats-dellstorage.rhcloud.com/? | 16:51 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: Thanks for getting the stats updating again. | 16:51 |
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| smcginnis | OK, safe travels to everyone. See you in Boston. | 16:52 |
| e0ne | see you next week | 16:52 |
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| jungleboyj | :-) See you all next week! | 16:52 |
| Swanson | Toodles. | 16:52 |
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| smcginnis | #endmeeting | 16:53 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed May 3 16:53:07 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:53 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2017/cinder.2017-05-03-16.00.html | 16:53 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2017/cinder.2017-05-03-16.00.txt | 16:53 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2017/cinder.2017-05-03-16.00.log.html | 16:53 |
| smcginnis | There, the last message in the log will be Swanson saying toodles. :) | 16:53 |
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| jungleboyj | Nice. | 16:53 |
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| krenczewski | Hi Bin | 17:59 |
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| bh526r | Hi Kamil | 17:59 |
| bh526r | #startmeeting gluon | 18:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed May 3 18:00:03 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bh526r. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: gluon)" | 18:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'gluon' | 18:00 |
| bh526r | #topic Roll Call | 18:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roll Call (Meeting topic: gluon)" | 18:00 | |
| bh526r | #info Bin Hu | 18:00 |
| krenczewski | Can we do Contrail first? It is national holiday in Poland | 18:00 |
| krenczewski | #info Kamil Renczewski | 18:00 |
| pcarver_ | #info Paul Carver | 18:01 |
| bh526r | Do you mean Thursday is national holiday? | 18:01 |
| krenczewski | Today | 18:01 |
| bh526r | Sure | 18:01 |
| krenczewski | Great | 18:01 |
| bh526r | #topic PoC Update | 18:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "PoC Update (Meeting topic: gluon)" | 18:01 | |
| bh526r | #info Contrail Update: | 18:02 |
| bh526r | Kamil, your turn :) | 18:02 |
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| krenczewski | Contrail is up and runnung | 18:02 |
| bh526r | Great | 18:03 |
| krenczewski | nova-compute is installed, it works correctly | 18:03 |
| krenczewski | I was able to boot two vms on Contrail node and ping each other | 18:03 |
| bh526r | #info Contrail is up and runnung, nova-compute is installed, it works correctly | 18:03 |
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| bh526r | #info Kamil was able to boot two vms on Contrail node and ping each other | 18:03 |
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| krenczewski | Next step is BGP peering | 18:04 |
| bh526r | I assume ContrailMechanismDriver also works appropriately, right | 18:04 |
| krenczewski | correct | 18:04 |
| bh526r | Because you used Nova to boot VM, it means the path is from Nove to Neutron to Gluon Core Plugin to ML2 Plugin to ContrailMechanismDriver to Contrail | 18:04 |
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| krenczewski | network that I was using for VMs was created via Neutron | 18:04 |
| krenczewski | That is right | 18:05 |
| bh526r | That's right. It means Gluon Core Plugin is transparent as it should be | 18:05 |
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| bh526r | all Neutron functions are not impacted. | 18:05 |
| bh526r | When Proton is involved, then Gluon Core Plugin will handle those Proton ports | 18:06 |
| krenczewski | Yes, but I've needed to modify neutron-server daemon start script to include ml2 conf files | 18:06 |
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| bh526r | I see. I assume it is only needed for Fuel? | 18:07 |
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| krenczewski | I think it is needed for all OpenStack installations that don't have ML2 plugin emabled by default | 18:07 |
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| bh526r | I see. Thank you for figuring it out. | 18:08 |
| krenczewski | One more | 18:08 |
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| krenczewski | Documentation about Contrail deployment for fuel needs to wait a little more | 18:09 |
| bh526r | When we use Gluon core plugin, we modified neutron.conf, and included core_plugin = gluon.plugin.core.GluonPlugin. | 18:09 |
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| bh526r | No problem, I understand it takes time to update document | 18:09 |
| krenczewski | there were so many configuration changes, that I need to re-deploy on fresh environment and write as I am making changes | 18:10 |
| krenczewski | to be acurate and not miss something | 18:10 |
| bh526r | I see. If I understand correctly, after we modify neutron.conf for Gluon Core Plugin, one critical change is to modify neutron-server daemon start script to include ml2 conf files | 18:11 |
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| bh526r | So that Neutron can continue to work with ML2 Plugin | 18:11 |
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| bh526r | That's right, too many configuration changes. | 18:11 |
| krenczewski | That is right | 18:11 |
| krenczewski | There were way more changes on Contrail node | 18:11 |
| krenczewski | and I needed to install nova-compute from github because of version mismatch | 18:12 |
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| bh526r | You did an awesome job, Kamil. Thank you very much. | 18:13 |
| krenczewski | Contrail works much better on ubuntu 14.04 and there is no nova packages fot newton on ubuntu 14.04 | 18:13 |
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| bh526r | I see. Another version mismatch | 18:13 |
| bh526r | When you have time, please document those so that everything will be accurate and we don't miss anything. | 18:13 |
| jinli | #info JinLi | 18:13 |
| krenczewski | OK | 18:13 |
| bh526r | Thank you very much Kamil. Great work | 18:14 |
| krenczewski | Thank you | 18:14 |
| bh526r | And hopefully tomorrow ONOS guys will be ready so that we can test BGP peering between Contrail and ONOS | 18:14 |
| bh526r | Sorry for keeping you late in the evening | 18:14 |
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| krenczewski | It's OK | 18:15 |
| bh526r | Anything else, Kamil? | 18:15 |
| krenczewski | That is all from my side | 18:15 |
| bh526r | Thank you Kamil, and enjoy the rest of your evening in national holiday | 18:16 |
| krenczewski | I'll go passive, If you need something urgent from me, just mention my name and my phone will beep me :-) | 18:16 |
| bh526r | :) Thank you | 18:16 |
| krenczewski | Thanks | 18:16 |
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| bh526r | #info Many configurations changes will be documented later on so as not to miss anything | 18:17 |
| bh526r | #info SFC YAML patch was submitted | 18:18 |
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| bh526r | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/461310/ | 18:18 |
| bh526r | #info It was quickly approved and merged for the sake of dry-running demo and recording | 18:18 |
| bh526r | #info Comments recevied will be addressed in next patch | 18:18 |
| bh526r | #info P2P YAML and ELAN YAML will be dropped | 18:19 |
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| bh526r | #info a demo session is recorded and available in Youtube | 18:20 |
| bh526r | #link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOYQwHt9ozk | 18:20 |
| bh526r | #info We are in good shape for PoC demo next week | 18:21 |
| bh526r | #info ONOS is also working on a recording of Gluon path from Proton to etcd to backend | 18:21 |
| bh526r | #info Look for a tool to combine 2+ videos into one video | 18:22 |
| bh526r | #info The rest is the BGP Peering between Contrail and ONOS, and recording if time permits | 18:22 |
| bh526r | #info everyone is encouraged to visit the demo booth in AT&T Booth and OPNFV Booth | 18:23 |
| bh526r | #info if any of you can help host a time slot in OPNFV Booth, great | 18:24 |
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| bh526r | #link https://wiki.opnfv.org/display/EVNT/OPNFV+at+OpenStack+Summit+-+Boston | 18:25 |
| bh526r | #info for signing up the booth duty in OPNFV booth | 18:25 |
| bh526r | #topic Pike Work Items | 18:26 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Pike Work Items (Meeting topic: gluon)" | 18:26 | |
| bh526r | #info Jin's patch of Version Management Design was approved and merged | 18:26 |
| bh526r | #info Jin has submitted a patch of code | 18:26 |
| bh526r | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/459894/ | 18:27 |
| bh526r | #info Please review | 18:27 |
| bh526r | anything else from you Jin? | 18:27 |
| jinli | no, just need someone to review it | 18:28 |
| jinli | then I want to move to the plugin authentication in the pike task list | 18:28 |
| bh526r | I will remind Georg. He is attending an external event today. | 18:28 |
| bh526r | Great, and thank you Jin | 18:29 |
| jinli | Oh one more thing, please review the constant to config | 18:29 |
| jinli | spread sheet | 18:29 |
| bh526r | Let me also add Sukhdev in code review. His eyes may catch something | 18:29 |
| jinli | and let me know what are the constants will be moved to config | 18:29 |
| jinli | maybe after the summit | 18:30 |
| bh526r | Sure. Thank you | 18:30 |
| jinli | thanks 1 | 18:30 |
| bh526r | #info After summit, other items of Neutron improvement for Sukhdev to drive | 18:31 |
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| bh526r | anything else from everyone? | 18:32 |
| pcarver_ | I found the SFC YAML confusing, but we can go through that in more detail later | 18:32 |
| bh526r | Thank you Paul for your time to review. I will remind Georg to review your comments and respond, and submit a new patch if necessary to improve | 18:33 |
| bh526r | Probably after Boston Summit, considering crazy schedule now and next week | 18:34 |
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| bh526r | anything else? | 18:35 |
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| bh526r | If nothing else, we can give back everyone 25 minutes | 18:36 |
| bh526r | #info Meeting adjourned | 18:36 |
| bh526r | #endmeeting | 18:36 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 18:36 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed May 3 18:36:42 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:36 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/gluon/2017/gluon.2017-05-03-18.00.html | 18:36 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/gluon/2017/gluon.2017-05-03-18.00.txt | 18:36 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/gluon/2017/gluon.2017-05-03-18.00.log.html | 18:36 |
| bh526r | Thank you everyone and bye all | 18:36 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | anyone around for the storyboard meeting? | 18:59 |
| SotK | o/ | 18:59 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | #startmeeting storyboard | 19:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed May 3 19:00:00 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is zara_the_lemur__. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'storyboard' | 19:00 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | #topic Announcements | 19:00 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | TODAY'S MEETING IS A SUPER SHORT MEETING | 19:00 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | THERE WILL BE NO OPEN DISCUSSION | 19:00 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | IF YOU WISH TO DISCUSS, COME TO #STORYBOARD | 19:00 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | AND DISCUSS AWAY | 19:00 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | no urgent items, so | 19:00 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | #topic In Progress Work | 19:00 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | we have some things in review | 19:00 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | since this meeting will be SUPER SHORT | 19:01 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | I will not dig up the links | 19:01 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | if you are interested in reviewing | 19:01 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | come to #storyboard! | 19:01 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | you may notice a pattern here :_ | 19:01 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | erm, :) | 19:01 |
| SotK | :) | 19:01 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | someone opened a pizza box and it hit my keyboard as I was typing | 19:01 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | so for once, I'm not to blame for the typing-fail | 19:01 |
| SotK | I did some review this week, I'll do more before summit I hope | 19:02 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | great \o/ | 19:02 |
| SotK | also talk thinking | 19:02 |
| diablo_rojo | Hello :) | 19:02 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | (+5, to anyone following at home, we are having a short meeting so we can work more on the talk at a mutually convenient time) | 19:02 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | #topic Discussion | 19:03 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | HAHAHA I TRICKED YOU, NO DISCUSSION TOPICS | 19:03 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | I'm happy to end this meeting if you two are | 19:03 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | chance for anyone to speak now or forever hold their peace on the subject of continuing this week's meeting | 19:03 |
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| SotK | oh | 19:04 |
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| diablo_rojo | This is quite possibly the best meeting I have ever attended | 19:04 |
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| SotK | we should not have a meeting next week | 19:04 |
| diablo_rojo | SotK, +1 | 19:04 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | yes, good point! | 19:04 |
| diablo_rojo | Cause we will be actively presenting | 19:04 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | we should send round an email about that | 19:04 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | anyone want to do that? | 19:05 |
| diablo_rojo | I can | 19:05 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | great, thank you :) | 19:05 |
| SotK | thanks diablo_rojo | 19:05 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | ANY OTHER REASONS WHY TODAY'S MEETING MUST CONTINUE | 19:05 |
| SotK | I have no more | 19:05 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | YOU HAVE 10 SECONDS AGAIN | 19:05 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | #endmeeting | 19:06 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/2017/storyboard.2017-05-03-19.00.html | 19:06 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/2017/storyboard.2017-05-03-19.00.txt | 19:06 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/2017/storyboard.2017-05-03-19.00.log.html | 19:06 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | I feel like the bot wanted to make sure it was actually 10 seconds then | 19:06 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | thanks, all :) | 19:06 |
| SotK | thanks zara_the_lemur__ | 19:07 |
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| ekhugen_alt | #startmeeting wos_mentoring | 20:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed May 3 20:01:47 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ekhugen_alt. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:01 |
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| ekhugen_alt | Hi, who's here for the mentoring team meeting? | 20:02 |
| NicoleH | hi there! | 20:03 |
| * ildikov is lurking | 20:03 | |
| ekhugen_alt | Hi NicoleH! | 20:04 |
| ekhugen_alt | Hi ildikov! | 20:04 |
| ildikov | ekhugen_alt: hi :) | 20:04 |
| NicoleH | Hi Emily! | 20:04 |
| ekhugen_alt | So NicoleH, how's the prep for speed mentoring going? Have all the mentors replied about their baseball cards? | 20:05 |
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| NicoleH | Prep is going well. A few of the mentors have fallen off -- we now have 18, I think. | 20:05 |
| ildikov | ekhugen_alt: if you need any further help on the session I'm not booked for that slot as of yet | 20:05 |
| ekhugen_alt | cool, thanks ildikov, that would be helpful, because I think we might have lost a few of our volunteers | 20:06 |
| ildikov | ekhugen_alt: more of a just in case comment as the event is next week | 20:06 |
| ildikov | ekhugen_alt: oh, that's sad :( | 20:06 |
| NicoleH | We just wrapped up the work on the baseball cards. We had a little trouble getting pics from everyone, so we've used LinkedIn pics in a handful of cases -- quality won't be as high, but they'll still have cards! | 20:07 |
| ekhugen_alt | NicoleH I think that's probably a good number of mentors, considering the mentee signups | 20:07 |
| ildikov | ekhugen_alt: please let me know and I'm happy to join and help out! | 20:07 |
| NicoleH | cool! | 20:07 |
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| NicoleH | We're in the process of creating the postcard to give to WOS greeters to hand to potentials at registration. | 20:07 |
| ekhugen_alt | If you're free ildikov, we're asking volunteers to get there around 12:30 | 20:08 |
| ekhugen_alt | +1 thank you for doing the postcards Nicole! | 20:08 |
| nishaYadav | Hey everyone o/ | 20:08 |
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| NicoleH | sure! | 20:08 |
| ildikov | ekhugen_alt: ok, I will add it to my calendar! Tnx | 20:08 |
| ekhugen_alt | Hi Nisha! | 20:09 |
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| NicoleH | Oh, and we're finishing up the table cards. | 20:09 |
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| ekhugen_alt | oh awesome | 20:10 |
| ekhugen_alt | so Nicole, you're bringing the postcards, baseball cards, table cards and baseball caps | 20:10 |
| ekhugen_alt | I'll bring a bell | 20:10 |
| NicoleH | yes :) | 20:11 |
| ekhugen_alt | anything else we need to remember to bring? | 20:11 |
| NicoleH | i think we're in good shape. | 20:11 |
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| NicoleH | ildikov, i need to get you an allocation of baseball caps for upstream mentors who will be there! | 20:12 |
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| ekhugen_alt | I'll send out a reminder email to the volunteers and mentors on Thursday or Friday, just reminding people of what time to be there | 20:13 |
| ildikov | NicoleH: I will send you a rough list after the meeting | 20:13 |
| NicoleH | meaning, be at the summit (not necessarily at the speed mentoring session0 | 20:13 |
| NicoleH | ok, thanks! | 20:13 |
| ekhugen_alt | so anything else for Speed Mentoring? | 20:15 |
| nishaYadav | Thanks :) | 20:15 |
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| NicoleH | emily, do we have a confirmed list of helpers? | 20:16 |
| NicoleH | other than that, i think we're all set. | 20:16 |
| nishaYadav | Is this the last meeting before the summit? Due to the time difference, I often miss :/ | 20:16 |
| ekhugen_alt | Hi Nisha, yes it is the last meeting before the summit | 20:16 |
| NicoleH | oh -- just thought of something -- do we have a list of the areas/questions that mentees are interested in? | 20:16 |
| nishaYadav | Thanks ekhugen_alt | 20:17 |
| ekhugen_alt | So NicoleH in the charts for the prep session, I condensed the list of questions from mentees into the career and technical categories | 20:18 |
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| ekhugen_alt | https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1duVBS8NLDCip5MU7nQFaseBsdZpaY_U4KbB6vAtvgmI/edit#slide=id.g21f4ef90be_0_1 slides 9 and 10 | 20:18 |
| ekhugen_alt | do we want to print out some copies of those to put on the tables? | 20:19 |
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| NicoleH | sure, i can do that! | 20:20 |
| ekhugen_alt | and volunteers I had beth, Amy, Aimee, Anindita, Kendall, Nisha and Ildikov | 20:20 |
| ekhugen_alt | but I think we'll want to re-confirm via the email on Friday | 20:21 |
| nishaYadav | I would love to :) | 20:21 |
| nishaYadav | ++ | 20:21 |
| NicoleH | sounds great, emily! | 20:22 |
| ekhugen_alt | thanks! | 20:23 |
| ekhugen_alt | so anything else on Speed Mentoring? | 20:23 |
| NicoleH | not from my end. | 20:23 |
| nishaYadav | I have one query, do the mentors get a proofread of the baseball card? | 20:24 |
| ekhugen_alt | I think NicoleH sent those out last week Nisha | 20:25 |
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| nishaYadav | Hmm, may be i missed it, i did get a mail for the high res pic for the card. | 20:26 |
| NicoleH | hi nisha ... yes, it went out on monday, and again on tuesday. | 20:26 |
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| NicoleH | we needed to finalize the cards & send them to the printer this morning. | 20:27 |
| NicoleH | emily -- just thought of another question -- | 20:27 |
| ekhugen_alt | yes? | 20:27 |
| nishaYadav | Oh, my bad then. Sorry Nicole! | 20:28 |
| NicoleH | it looks like there are 9 career mentors (they listed themselves as "both"), and 9 technical mentors. | 20:28 |
| NicoleH | how many table cards should we print? | 20:28 |
| NicoleH | meaning, how many table cards of each career & technical? | 20:29 |
| ekhugen_alt | I'd probably print 11 or 12 of each, just in case some mentors decide to switch | 20:29 |
| NicoleH | ok, will do! | 20:30 |
| ekhugen_alt | thanks! | 20:31 |
| NicoleH | sure :) | 20:32 |
| ekhugen_alt | so besides Speed Mentoring | 20:33 |
| ekhugen_alt | other mentoring activities at the summit, | 20:33 |
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| ekhugen_alt | I think Nicole you were going to be at the foundation lounge on Monday after the keynotes to talk about mentoring and women of openstack? | 20:33 |
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| nishaYadav | Hmm, sorry to bother again but i just checked my mails again couldn't find it still :( Do I need to check anywhere else for confirmation regarding my role? | 20:34 |
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| ekhugen_alt | Nisha, I think maybe nicole has stepped away, maybe we can continue the discussion over email? | 20:46 |
| ekhugen_alt | I'll keep the meeting open until close to the top of the hour in case anyone thinks of more questions | 20:48 |
| nishaYadav | Yeah, that would work. Thanks :) | 20:49 |
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| ekhugen_alt | okay, closing out the meeting, thanks everyone! See you next week! | 20:56 |
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| ekhugen_alt | #endmeeting | 20:56 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed May 3 20:56:38 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:56 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/wos_mentoring/2017/wos_mentoring.2017-05-03-20.01.html | 20:56 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/wos_mentoring/2017/wos_mentoring.2017-05-03-20.01.txt | 20:56 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/wos_mentoring/2017/wos_mentoring.2017-05-03-20.01.log.html | 20:56 |
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| notmyname | swift meeting time | 21:00 |
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| notmyname | #startmeeting swift | 21:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed May 3 21:01:02 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is notmyname. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:01 |
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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:01 |
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| notmyname | who's here for the swift team meeting? | 21:01 |
| timburke | o/ | 21:01 |
| mattoliverau | o/ | 21:01 |
| m_kazuhiro | o/ | 21:01 |
| jrichli | o/ | 21:01 |
| patchbot | hi | 21:01 |
| rledisez | hi o/ | 21:01 |
| pdardeau | hi | 21:01 |
| tdasilva | hello | 21:01 |
| kota_ | hello | 21:01 |
| mathiasb | o/ | 21:01 |
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| notmyname | clayg: cschwede_: acoles: ping | 21:02 |
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| acoles | hello | 21:02 |
| clayg | lets do it | 21:02 |
| notmyname | welcome everyone | 21:02 |
| notmyname | relatively short agenda for this week (although I left off one topic) | 21:02 |
| notmyname | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Swift | 21:02 |
| notmyname | since the last meeting... | 21:03 |
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| notmyname | Swift 2.14.0 has been released. done! | 21:03 |
| joeljwright | oops, missed the start, sorry | 21:03 |
| notmyname | joeljwright: just in time :-) | 21:03 |
| notmyname | #topic follow up from last week | 21:03 |
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| mattoliverau | \o/ | 21:03 |
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| notmyname | last week we talked about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/456205 | 21:04 |
| patchbot | patch 456205 - python-swiftclient - WIP: Use keystone session when possible | 21:04 |
| notmyname | and joeljwright said he'd write something up and put it on the ideas page | 21:04 |
| joeljwright | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Swift/ideas/swiftclient-keystone-session | 21:04 |
| notmyname | joeljwright: did you get a chance to do that? | 21:04 |
| notmyname | nice! | 21:04 |
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| joeljwright | some background information and links to related patches | 21:04 |
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| notmyname | thank you | 21:04 |
| joeljwright | np | 21:04 |
| jungleboyj | o/ | 21:05 |
| notmyname | joeljwright: looks like a decent write up that we can use for pointing people at when this comes up in the future | 21:05 |
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| notmyname | and for working through on this patch (for this patch author) and other current work | 21:06 |
| joeljwright | thanks to jaosorior for the WIP and taking the time to talk to me and they keystone peeps | 21:06 |
| acoles | joeljwright: nice writeup, thanks | 21:06 |
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| joeljwright | the patch really is just a pointer in the right direction, but the background is largely from conversations with timburke and jaosorior | 21:07 |
| clayg | *through* the Keystone session!? | 21:07 |
| joeljwright | clayg: yeah, but timburke already make a plugin for v1auth… | 21:07 |
| notmyname | clayg: yeah, the keystone session handles reauth etc. I expect some complexity when we do "keystone or other auth systems" | 21:07 |
| notmyname | joeljwright: oh! so maybe the keystone v1 plugin works for other auth systems too? | 21:07 |
| notmyname | the call signatures should be the same | 21:08 |
| joeljwright | the session would need to be instantiated by specifying the plugin to use… but… maybe... | 21:08 |
| joeljwright | timburke? | 21:08 |
| notmyname | guess it depends on what we can plumb through that might be different (endpoints, catalogs or not, etc) | 21:08 |
| timburke | i fully expect the v1 auth plugin to work against swauth | 21:08 |
| notmyname | point is... a lot of work left to be done | 21:08 |
| joeljwright | yes | 21:08 |
| joeljwright | and probably a breaking API change unless we're really clever | 21:09 |
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| notmyname | definitely something to keep in mind | 21:09 |
| mordred | notmyname: just eavesdropping/crashing the meeting - but I'd be happy to help figure out keystoneauth/swauth things | 21:09 |
| notmyname | mordred: ok. thanks. the link above from joeljwright is a great place to start with a summary of the state of things | 21:09 |
| timburke | we *might* be able to avoid some of that if we also pull in the token_endpoint plugin? | 21:10 |
| mordred | notmyname: yah - was just reading through that - looking good - I'll try to get up to speed on state and see if I can be of any assistance | 21:11 |
| notmyname | mordred: thank you | 21:11 |
| joeljwright | mordred: thanks | 21:11 |
| notmyname | next topic | 21:11 |
| notmyname | #topic openstack summit in boston | 21:12 |
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| notmyname | this is the one I left off the agenda by accident | 21:12 |
| notmyname | (of course we'll talk about the summit. it's next week) | 21:12 |
| notmyname | schedule updates from last week | 21:12 |
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| notmyname | last week I said it looked like we had a really good block of time on tuesday | 21:12 |
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| notmyname | however, that is no longer true | 21:13 |
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| notmyname | if you look at tuesday's schedule... | 21:13 |
| notmyname | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/boston-2017/summit-schedule/#day=2017-05-09 | 21:13 |
| notmyname | ...you'll see that we have 3 Forum sessions | 21:13 |
| notmyname | from 2pm to 5:20pm | 21:13 |
| notmyname | because of this severely constrained schedule, I've blocked some time on the "hacking rooms" schedule | 21:14 |
| notmyname | #link | 21:14 |
| notmyname | #link https://ethercalc.openstack.org/Boston_Forum_Hacking_Rooms | 21:14 |
| notmyname | I've blocked out wednesday from 10:30 to 12:30 | 21:14 |
| mattoliverau | oh nice work on the hacking rooms | 21:14 |
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| notmyname | this is the largest single block of time that conflicts the least with other stuff on the general schedule | 21:15 |
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| notmyname | so in total, we've got about 5 hours of time together in a room scheduled to talk about swift things | 21:15 |
| mattoliverau | great | 21:16 |
| kota_ | nice | 21:16 |
| notmyname | we'll stick close-ish to the published schedule for tuesday (ops feedback, container sharding, small files optimizations), but on wednesday, we'll do our best to be more ad hoc (like we've done at previous events) | 21:16 |
| notmyname | I expect we'll get a lot of good discussions done, but the reality is that we have vastly less time than we've had at previous openstack events | 21:17 |
| notmyname | so keep that in mind, and we'll need to be very careful to not get too distracted | 21:17 |
| mattoliverau | just makes the beer track more important ;) | 21:17 |
| notmyname | of course, there's also the other unscheduled time in the hacking rooms, any hallway/bar conversations, and whatever else comes up | 21:17 |
| notmyname | during the main conference time there's also a lot of good talks about swift or something related to swift. so be sure to mark stuff down on your schedule before you go :-) | 21:18 |
| notmyname | or not. do what you want. *I'm* going to prepare ahead of time ;-) | 21:18 |
| tdasilva | we can hack at boston common or copley square | 21:18 |
| tdasilva | ;) | 21:19 |
| notmyname | tdasilva: that sounds great :-) | 21:19 |
| tdasilva | library is next door | 21:19 |
| notmyname | tdasilva: what's the weather like? hot cold rain sun? | 21:19 |
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| tdasilva | rain :( | 21:19 |
| timburke | tdasilva: i think we're *much* too loud for a library :P | 21:19 |
| jungleboyj | notmyname: Forecast is for cool and rainy next week. | 21:19 |
| notmyname | timburke: heh | 21:19 |
| tdasilva | timburke: i think they have meeting rooms | 21:19 |
| notmyname | also, we will not be having this meeting next week | 21:20 |
| notmyname | are there any questions about the summit next week? | 21:20 |
| mattoliverau | nope, look forward to seeing y'all | 21:21 |
| joeljwright | have fun peeps! | 21:21 |
| notmyname | me too | 21:21 |
| notmyname | ok, please feel free to ask me if you have any questions | 21:22 |
| notmyname | also, I think most of you have my cell, but if not it's 254-722-3321. feel free to call or text if you need something before or during the summit | 21:22 |
| notmyname | moving on... | 21:22 |
| notmyname | #topic TC goals | 21:22 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "TC goals (Meeting topic: swift)" | 21:22 | |
| notmyname | remember that the TC has set some whole-openstack goals for everyone | 21:22 |
| notmyname | #link https://governance.openstack.org/tc/goals/pike/deploy-api-in-wsgi.html | 21:23 |
| notmyname | #link https://governance.openstack.org/tc/goals/pike/python35.html | 21:23 |
| notmyname | note that as of yesterday, the first one (the wsgi one) has been redefined for uwsgi instead of mod_wsgi. I don't know the full impact of that for us, but at least be aware of that change if you've previously looked at it | 21:23 |
| notmyname | so here's what we need to do | 21:24 |
| notmyname | we need to write down our plans to get these done. ie a list of stuff we've got to solve or what's blocking us | 21:24 |
| notmyname | then we need to add that (or a link to it) to the governance doc | 21:24 |
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| notmyname | then at the end of the pike cycle (in a few months) we need to link something similar that shows what if any progress we've made or how we've satisfied it | 21:25 |
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| notmyname | eg on the wsgi one, we might have been able to satisfy the previous one by simply linking to our "run in apache" docs. (that might need to change now) | 21:25 |
| notmyname | the wsgi one is not one I'm too concerned about. IIRC the definition is that the proxy can be deployed and run with apache and uwsgi. and AIUI, that's already a test thats' set up and available in devstack | 21:27 |
| notmyname | the py3 one is more concerning simply because the impact is more undefined and significantly more complicated | 21:27 |
| notmyname | timburke and I have been tracking the py3 challenges in a gist | 21:27 |
| notmyname | #link https://gist.github.com/tipabu/833b03a865dba96e9fa2230b82f5d075 | 21:28 |
| notmyname | but that's a stream-of-conciousness format and probably not too great for whatever needs to be linked in teh governance repo | 21:28 |
| notmyname | this is how I'd like to make progress on the governance document requirements | 21:29 |
| notmyname | I would like a volunteer to investigate the wsgi goal, including yesterday's redefinition, and see if our current docs satisfy it | 21:29 |
| notmyname | then, ideally, that person will be in boston next week, and we sit down together and write up what's needed for the governance repo (but if not in boston, then we work together in irc) | 21:30 |
| notmyname | for the py3 goal, timburke and I will continue on the gist and do the same (but all comments are welcome on the gist, if you know of other py3 porting challenges) | 21:31 |
| notmyname | so (1) does that makes sense and sound good and (2) who can volunteer to work on teh wsgi goal one? | 21:31 |
| mattoliverau | I would, but not really in a stable environment to make too many promises :( | 21:33 |
| notmyname | clearly I can see that this is top priority for everyone ;-) | 21:33 |
| notmyname | mattoliverau: yeah, you're off the hook | 21:33 |
| acoles | notmyname: I'll try | 21:33 |
| mattoliverau | also, rackspace is taking all my equipment today.. which is going to feel weird | 21:33 |
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| jungleboyj | mattoliverau: :-( | 21:34 |
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| notmyname | acoles: ok, thanks. I expect that it should be a quick 30 minute look. please let me know if it turns out to be a lot more than that | 21:34 |
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| notmyname | #topic open discussion | 21:34 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: swift)" | 21:34 | |
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| acoles | notmyname: ok | 21:35 |
| notmyname | anything else to bring up this week? | 21:35 |
| notmyname | anything else to discuss, or shall we adjourn until we see each other in person in boston? | 21:35 |
| acoles | everyone who's not going to Boston - we'll miss you :( | 21:36 |
| mattoliverau | very talkative bunch today | 21:36 |
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| jungleboyj | Everyone is trying to get presentations done for Boston. ;-) | 21:36 |
| mattoliverau | what acoles said +1 | 21:36 |
| mattoliverau | jungleboyj: lol | 21:36 |
| jrichli | i'll miss seeing you all as well. have fun! | 21:37 |
| jungleboyj | jrichli: :-( | 21:37 |
| notmyname | ok, let's end (not early, but right on time, since we have nothing else to discuss in the meeting) | 21:37 |
| notmyname | thank you for coming to the meeting. thank you for working on swift | 21:38 |
| jungleboyj | Thanks! | 21:38 |
| notmyname | I'll see (half of) you next week! | 21:38 |
| notmyname | #endmeeting | 21:38 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 21:38 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed May 3 21:38:21 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:38 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2017/swift.2017-05-03-21.01.html | 21:38 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2017/swift.2017-05-03-21.01.txt | 21:38 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2017/swift.2017-05-03-21.01.log.html | 21:38 |
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