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gongysh | #startmeeting tacker | 05:31 |
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openstack | Meeting started Wed Apr 12 05:31:16 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gongysh. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 05:31 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 05:31 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: tacker)" | 05:31 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tacker' | 05:31 |
trinaths | o/ | 05:31 |
diga | o/ | 05:31 |
gongysh | hi everyone, who are you guys are here for tacker meeting? | 05:31 |
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trinaths | yes | 05:31 |
sridhar_ram | howdy all ! | 05:32 |
gongysh | #topic Roll Call | 05:32 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Roll Call (Meeting topic: tacker)" | 05:32 | |
gongysh | sridhar_ram, hi | 05:32 |
Zhou_Zhihong | o/ | 05:32 |
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YanXing_an | o/ | 05:32 |
janki | o/ | 05:33 |
gongysh | how is last week? | 05:33 |
gongysh | are you guys happy? | 05:33 |
gongysh | :) | 05:33 |
trinaths | :) | 05:33 |
janki | hi gongysh trinaths | 05:34 |
gongysh | #topic tacker activity review | 05:34 |
*** openstack changes topic to "tacker activity review (Meeting topic: tacker)" | 05:34 | |
diga | It was very hectic for me since my office product release was going since two weeks, yesterday finally we have done our product release:) | 05:34 |
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gongysh | http://stackalytics.com/?metric=marks&module=tacker-group | 05:35 |
gongysh | trinaths, thanks for you reviewing effort | 05:35 |
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gongysh | diga, congratulations. | 05:35 |
sridhar_ram | trinaths: great job ! | 05:35 |
trinaths | gongysh: still need reviews. missed my Pike-1 bug.. | 05:35 |
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diga | gongysh: thanks! I can give more time to tacker now onwards :) | 05:36 |
dkushwaha_ | o/ | 05:36 |
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gongysh | YanXing_an is also improving the review. | 05:36 |
gongysh | diga, thanks. | 05:36 |
gongysh | dkushwaha_, hi | 05:36 |
Abhi111 | hi | 05:36 |
gongysh | Abhi111, hi, welcome | 05:37 |
gongysh | #annoucement | 05:37 |
sridhar_ram | gongysh: is successfully gamifying tacker participation :) Let's see who stays in Pike top-5 club | 05:37 |
gongysh | #topic http://stackalytics.com/?metric=marks&module=tacker-group | 05:37 |
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gongysh | sorry | 05:37 |
gongysh | #topic annoucement | 05:37 |
*** openstack changes topic to "annoucement (Meeting topic: tacker)" | 05:37 | |
gongysh | p1 is over | 05:37 |
Abhi111 | anyone with raas ransomeware solution ? | 05:38 |
gongysh | sridhar_ram, do we need to release pi package? | 05:38 |
sridhar_ram | gongysh: no, we are not marked as milestone-release type project | 05:38 |
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trinaths | Abhi111: Hi, its an Openstack-Tacker meeting. | 05:39 |
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Abhi111 | ohh | 05:39 |
sridhar_ram | gongysh: fyi, we are marked as release-with-intermediary .. | 05:39 |
gongysh | sridhar_ram, ok, we just need to move all bugs to p2, right? | 05:39 |
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sridhar_ram | gongysh: yes .. and in that we need to realistic .. move some low sev bugs to P3 | 05:39 |
sridhar_ram | *need to be | 05:40 |
gongysh | sridhar_ram, I have done that. all bugs not fixed in p1 are moved from p1 to p2. | 05:40 |
gongysh | #link https://launchpad.net/tacker/+milestone/pike-2 | 05:40 |
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sridhar_ram | gongysh: cool, once one or two BPs merge, we need to do an "intermediary" Pike Tacker release .. | 05:40 |
gongysh | p2 will end at 2017-06-05 | 05:41 |
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gongysh | sridhar_ram, yes. we have some spec in review process. | 05:41 |
gongysh | #topic BP | 05:41 |
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gongysh | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/tacker-specs | 05:42 |
gongysh | the first one is "encrypt vim credentials with barbican" | 05:42 |
gongysh | patch is at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/445543/ | 05:43 |
YanXing_an | Need more reviews to make it merged | 05:43 |
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gongysh | who will help to review it? | 05:43 |
tung_doan | YanXing_an: first of all, you need to fix syntax in this patch | 05:43 |
gongysh | sridhar_ram, dkushwaha_ ? | 05:43 |
sridhar_ram | gongysh: i'll continue to review it .. | 05:43 |
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dkushwaha_ | gongysh: I will do it | 05:44 |
trinaths | i can help review that spec. | 05:44 |
gongysh | sridhar_ram, dkushwaha_ thanks | 05:44 |
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gongysh | trinaths, you too. thanks | 05:44 |
YanXing_an | Thanks all | 05:44 |
gongysh | YanXing_an, please actively respond to review comments and hope it will merge soon. | 05:45 |
gongysh | and then we can start coding. | 05:45 |
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YanXing_an | gongysh, ok, i will | 05:45 |
sridhar_ram | YanXing_an: all: quick note on the credentials used to review: i think credential store should be a remote service used by tacker-service .. | 05:45 |
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sridhar_ram | .. irrespective of which user is creating VIMs | 05:46 |
gongysh | sridhar_ram, cannot understand quite. | 05:46 |
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sridhar_ram | gongysh: will explain further.. there was a question which barbican user/pw to be used to store the creds.. is that issue resolved ? | 05:47 |
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gongysh | sridhar_ram, I suggest to use the user's own context. | 05:47 |
YanXing_an | use the operator (who creates vim) 's context to store creds | 05:48 |
sridhar_ram | YanXing_an: gongysh: okay, i think that shd work .. | 05:48 |
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gongysh | ok | 05:49 |
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gongysh | sridhar_ram, and for 'shared' vim, we will use rbac way to do 'part sharing' instead of 'all sharing'. | 05:50 |
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gongysh | next topic | 05:50 |
gongysh | Support block storage | 05:50 |
gongysh | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/453442/ | 05:50 |
Zhou_Zhihong | I need more reviews and ideas to help me update the spec. | 05:50 |
gongysh | I will be the one core to review the spec. | 05:51 |
Zhou_Zhihong | thanks | 05:51 |
gongysh | sridhar_ram, I think you will be interested in it. | 05:51 |
sridhar_ram | gongysh: yes, it is in my queue .. will review | 05:51 |
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trinaths | Zhou_Zhihong: Do you have any use-case for this? | 05:51 |
gongysh | Zhou_Zhihong, I have give some comments on it. | 05:52 |
Zhou_Zhihong | yes, i have verifed one case | 05:52 |
Zhou_Zhihong | gongysh, yes I see. | 05:52 |
diga | gongysh: I will review the spec | 05:52 |
gongysh | diga, thanks | 05:52 |
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gongysh | Tacker support in python-openstackclient | 05:53 |
sridhar_ram | Zhou_Zhihong: gongysh: one general thought is, it is preferable to solve this in a non-NFV way | 05:53 |
trinaths | Zhou_Zhihong: Then, can you elaborate those finding too in the spec. It will give a clear idea | 05:53 |
sridhar_ram | Zhou_Zhihong: gongysh: better to leverage Simple Profile instead of the NFV profile | 05:53 |
trinaths | regarding my spec, on OSC, replying gongysh comments, w.r.t the command names, we are following how the other modules are doing. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/455188/ .. For example, Heat https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/heat-specs/specs/mitaka/python-openstackclient.html | 05:54 |
Zhou_Zhihong | trinaths: I will | 05:54 |
gongysh | sridhar_ram, http://docs.oasis-open.org/tosca/TOSCA-Simple-Profile-YAML/v1.0/csprd01/TOSCA-Simple-Profile-YAML-v1.0-csprd01.html#_Toc430015836 | 05:54 |
gongysh | sridhar_ram are you talking about this doc? | 05:54 |
sridhar_ram | gongysh: exactly | 05:54 |
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gongysh | yes, I have put this reference on the spec review. Zhou_Zhihong , please refer to it. | 05:55 |
sridhar_ram | gongysh: we don't need to artificially make this NFV specific .. we shd work across the aisle in TP / HT projects to get this done | 05:55 |
sridhar_ram | gongysh: we shd just have test-cases and use-case docs in tacker on how it is used for NFV purposes | 05:56 |
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gongysh | sridhar_ram, yes | 05:56 |
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gongysh | next topic "Tacker support in python-openstackclient" https://review.openstack.org/#/c/455188/ | 05:57 |
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sridhar_ram | gongysh: background, i was in ONS Summit last week .. talked to some TOSCA Data Model folks and there is preference to keep non-NFV specific things out of NFV profile | 05:57 |
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gongysh | I have suggest to use "tacker_" as our command prefix in "OSC" | 05:58 |
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gongysh | for example "openstack tacker_vnfd create xxxx" | 05:58 |
sridhar_ram | gongysh: nope, that beats the whole idea of OSC effort | 05:58 |
trinaths | gongysh: but we need to align with the list of OSC commands. | 05:58 |
sridhar_ram | gongysh: AFAIK, the idea is to move away from project names in the CLI | 05:58 |
gongysh | sridhar_ram, then what if our command conflicts with other project? | 05:59 |
sridhar_ram | gongysh: .. into one common openstack level CLI namespace | 05:59 |
tung_doan | sridhar_ram: +1 | 05:59 |
diga | sridhar_ram: +1, command should be feature specific, not product specific as per the openstack standard | 05:59 |
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gongysh | does then have 'command namespace' concept? | 05:59 |
gongysh | do they have 'command namespace' concept? | 06:00 |
sridhar_ram | gongysh: that's why we need to put more thoughts and work w/ those teams .. | 06:00 |
trinaths | sridhar_ram: I have updated many commands to be specific to what Tacker really doing. | 06:00 |
sridhar_ram | gongysh: again, afaik, there is just one openstack level namespace .. | 06:00 |
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gongysh | sridhar_ram, who will help to approve the command names used across projects" | 06:01 |
gongysh | sridhar_ram, who will help to approve the command names used across projects? | 06:01 |
sridhar_ram | trinaths: gongysh: one suggestion is to make slight nfv type prefix to those commands that could potentially conflict | 06:01 |
trinaths | gongysh: here is the list of OSC commands so far listed. http://paste.openstack.org/show/606214/ | 06:01 |
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sridhar_ram | gongysh: good question.. i don't know the answer :( | 06:01 |
sridhar_ram | gongysh: atleast anne gentle (from the docs team) should help us direct to the right person | 06:02 |
trinaths | sridhar_ram: then it must be something like, $> tacker event-list ==> $> openstack nfv event list ?? | 06:02 |
sridhar_ram | trinaths: exactly .. something like that | 06:03 |
gongysh | sridhar_ram, then the "nfv" is the prefix. | 06:03 |
trinaths | since tacker is major NFV related project using 'nfv' as prefix might not conflict other similar commands. | 06:03 |
tung_doan | trinaths: sridhar_ram gongysh : i think we are in NFV area. Show all cmds should start with "nfv" | 06:03 |
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gongysh | nfv vnfd xxxx, nfv nsd xxx, fv ns xxx .... | 06:04 |
sridhar_ram | so even bacic ones will look like 'openstack nfv vnf create' .. ? hmm... | 06:04 |
diga | sridhar_ram: +1 this is good | 06:05 |
gongysh | I can go with 'nfv' name space. | 06:05 |
trinaths | sridhar_ram: +1, but we might not give nfv prefix for all the commands but for misc commands. | 06:05 |
tung_doan | sridhar_ram: sounds good :) | 06:05 |
gongysh | it will help users to know it is from tacker. | 06:05 |
dkushwaha | sridhar_ram, gongysh some project using their project name in openstack cli. Can we use like 'openstack tacker vnf create' ? | 06:05 |
sridhar_ram | trinaths: i would like that middle ground approach .. for things like vnf, vnfd, vnffg .. i don't think we need 'nfv' .. but for other like 'network-service', 'sfc', we need .. | 06:06 |
diga | dkushwaha: -1 to above approach, we should not use project name in the cli | 06:06 |
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sridhar_ram | trinaths: .. but now that will be inconsistent and that will be confusing as well .. hmmm | 06:06 |
gongysh | dkushwaha, my original idea is to user "tacker" but now I think "nfv" is better. but hope there is no resource in our tacker named 'nfv' | 06:07 |
trinaths | sridhar_ram: the idea can be like for those conflicting must have nfv prefix | 06:07 |
diga | dkushwaha: as sridhar_ram mentioned we should go with nfv namespace, I think that will be right approach | 06:07 |
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dkushwaha | gongysh, diga make sense | 06:07 |
sridhar_ram | trinaths: agree, but now we have created some inconsistency.. i would lean towards making it consistent | 06:07 |
sridhar_ram | trinaths: .. even if that means making it longer | 06:08 |
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gongysh | sridhar_ram, we cannot make sure other commands will not conflict with commands from other projects. | 06:08 |
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trinaths | sridhar_ram: agree. then all commands will have $> openstack nfv <-commands-> | 06:08 |
sridhar_ram | trinaths: yep .. | 06:09 |
sridhar_ram | trinaths: let's see how this shapes in .. in your next spec revision | 06:09 |
trinaths | sridhar_ram: that way we can easily avoid conflicting them. | 06:09 |
diga | sridhar_ram: trinaths: gongysh : As I am implementing new API, if we need to add/remove params from API to make command consistent, we can do that now | 06:09 |
trinaths | sridhar_ram: agree . | 06:10 |
trinaths | diga: +1 please share that commit with me. | 06:10 |
sridhar_ram | diga: i thought for the initial attempt .. we are not going to change API | 06:10 |
gongysh | ok, let revison the spec. if we cannot get the agreement, we have to vote at next meeting. | 06:10 |
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diga | trinaths: I am implementing VIM API now, will share with you by friday | 06:10 |
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diga | sridhar_ram: okay | 06:11 |
sridhar_ram | gongysh: i think we have a general consensus here based on what we just discussed | 06:11 |
diga | sridhar_ram: got it | 06:11 |
trinaths | sridhar_ram: then, one doubt, can I go with ns, vnffg as they are or network-service ... | 06:11 |
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trinaths | sridhar_ram: like, sfc | 06:12 |
trinaths | sridhar_ram: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/455188/6/specs/pike/python-openstackclient.rst | 06:12 |
sridhar_ram | trinaths: to be 'ns' is toooo cryptic | 06:12 |
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trinaths | sridhar_ram: okay. | 06:12 |
gongysh | tung_doan, when will you try to do the 'mistral workflow' for long live task? | 06:13 |
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gongysh | sridhar_ram, ns is ns, I dont think we should make it 'network-service'. | 06:13 |
tung_doan | gongysh: maybe this week | 06:13 |
gongysh | if so, we have to do nsd, vnfd, vnf the same way | 06:13 |
sridhar_ram | gongysh: this is were i want to see how other projects approached their OSC efforts | 06:13 |
sridhar_ram | gongysh: agree on the consistency part .. nsd vs ns | 06:14 |
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gongysh | sridhar_ram, those way can be a reference. but not the rule. | 06:14 |
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trinaths | gongysh: agree | 06:14 |
gongysh | #next topic bugs | 06:15 |
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gongysh | Do you guys have specific bug to talk? | 06:15 |
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trinaths | gongysh: my outstanding one, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/449956/ | 06:16 |
YanXing_an | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/451827/, need someone workflow +1 | 06:17 |
gongysh | trinaths, it seems there is a negative test case from dkushwaha . | 06:17 |
gongysh | trinaths, do you have tested your patch yourself? | 06:17 |
gongysh | we had better use "curl" to test. | 06:18 |
trinaths | gongysh: yes. I have posted my comments too | 06:18 |
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trinaths | dkushwaha: have you downloaded the complete patch and tested it. | 06:18 |
gongysh | python tacker client has filled some other stuff before calling the API. | 06:18 |
dkushwaha | gongysh, sridhar_ram I have tried it on my env, and it looks we can update the vnf name with already existing name. It will be better if somebody can verify it also | 06:18 |
trinaths | gongysh: I have tested the same test-cases dkushwahahas done. it was failure for me. | 06:19 |
dkushwaha | %s/vnf/vim | 06:19 |
gongysh | trinaths, ok, I will have a test. | 06:19 |
dkushwaha | trinaths, yup, I had downloaded patch 25 | 06:19 |
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gongysh | for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/451827/ | 06:20 |
gongysh | I think dkushwaha will be interested in it since you are doing ns with vnffg BP. | 06:20 |
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trinaths | dkushwaha: but we are in a conflict. | 06:20 |
dkushwaha | gongysh, right, I will review it | 06:20 |
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gongysh | #topic open discussion | 06:21 |
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tung_doan | gongysh: btw, hope you guys review my patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/453964/ | 06:21 |
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dkushwaha | trinaths, then, it might be my env issue. If anyone can verify it, rest is fine from my side | 06:21 |
trinaths | dkushwaha: okay. | 06:22 |
sridhar_ram | dkushwaha: i tested an vim-update patch .. update blocked for non-admin users. Is this a diff issue ? | 06:22 |
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trinaths | I see some patches from contributors with simple typo corrections. Are such fixes valid ? | 06:22 |
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dkushwaha | sridhar_ram, it looks different case. Please look into http://paste.openstack.org/show/606169/ | 06:23 |
sridhar_ram | trinaths: IMO, typo fixes in docs are okay to entertain .. but not worth fixing in the code.. totaly wast of reviewers' time | 06:24 |
gongysh | trinaths, In my own way, I don't review with small typo fixes. | 06:24 |
sridhar_ram | dkushwaha: will check | 06:24 |
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trinaths | dkushwaha: I have done the same testing, http://paste.openstack.org/show/606185/ | 06:24 |
diga | anybody knows how to update company affiliation in gerrit ? | 06:24 |
trinaths | dkushwaha: but the test failed as suggested. | 06:24 |
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gongysh | trinaths, but with end user facing doc, it is fine. | 06:25 |
trinaths | diga: you mean stackalytics ? | 06:25 |
diga | trinaths: YEs | 06:25 |
trinaths | gongysh: Agree. I have seen some fixes to http => https , actualy => actually | 06:25 |
sridhar_ram | diga: push a patchset to https://github.com/openstack/stackalytics | 06:25 |
diga | sridhar_ram: okay, thank you | 06:26 |
YanXing_an | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/254618/, for example | 06:26 |
trinaths | diga: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Stackalytics#Company_affiliation | 06:26 |
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diga | trinaths: Thanks! | 06:26 |
gongysh | do you guys have other stuff to talk? | 06:26 |
gongysh | if not, we will end the meeting. and we can discuss on tacker channel. | 06:27 |
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gongysh | have a good week. | 06:28 |
gongysh | #endmeeting | 06:28 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Wed Apr 12 06:28:08 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 06:28 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2017/tacker.2017-04-12-05.31.html | 06:28 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2017/tacker.2017-04-12-05.31.txt | 06:28 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2017/tacker.2017-04-12-05.31.log.html | 06:28 |
sridhar_ram | bye | 06:28 |
trinaths | bye | 06:28 |
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ma9_ | is the Scientific working group about to start? | 08:54 |
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dariov | in theory :-) | 08:57 |
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oneswig | #startmeeting scientific_wg | 09:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Apr 12 09:00:36 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is oneswig. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 09:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'scientific_wg' | 09:00 |
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oneswig | Good morning good afternoon good evening | 09:01 |
oneswig | #link agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Scientific_working_group#IRC_Meeting_April_12th_2017 | 09:01 |
priteau | Hello oneswig | 09:01 |
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ma9_ | Hello from Lugano | 09:01 |
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oneswig | Hi priteau I have something to ask of you later ;-) | 09:01 |
oneswig | Hello ma9_ - I'm in the front row next to Mike. | 09:02 |
jmlowe | Good morning! | 09:02 |
b1airo | evening / <insert time appropriate greeting> | 09:02 |
dariov | hello! | 09:02 |
ma9_ | I know, I'm Marco from CSCs | 09:02 |
jmlowe | so this is how the other half lives? | 09:02 |
oneswig | ha! Hi Marco :-) | 09:02 |
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oneswig | #chair b1airo | 09:03 |
openstack | Current chairs: b1airo oneswig | 09:03 |
verdurin | Morning. | 09:03 |
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b1airo | how's Laguno? | 09:03 |
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b1airo | or Lugano even | 09:04 |
oneswig | b1airo: splendid - don't know how ma9_ gets any work done out here | 09:04 |
mpasserini | :D | 09:04 |
oneswig | OK, shall we get started? | 09:05 |
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oneswig | #topic Roundup on resource reservation & other forum topics | 09:05 |
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b1airo | it's round-up time at the family station here now that daylight saving has finished so i will be back and forth | 09:05 |
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oneswig | OK b1airo - know how that is! | 09:05 |
oneswig | I had a quick one here. I put in two forum topics - BIOS/RAID config and Cinder multi-attach | 09:06 |
oneswig | the BIOS/RAID one was rejected :-( but suggested to cover in the virt + baremetal session | 09:06 |
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oneswig | the Cinder volume multi-attach I think was also to be covered in virt + baremetal (oddly) | 09:06 |
oneswig | The main discussion going on has been around resource reservation | 09:07 |
jmlowe | that is odd | 09:07 |
oneswig | priteau: can you give a summary? | 09:07 |
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priteau | The discussion has focused on what should be handled by Nova itself and what should be managed by another service, like Blazar | 09:08 |
oneswig | jmlowe: it is, there's also a good deal of interest on multi-attach from the telco world it seems | 09:08 |
priteau | Jay Pipes, one of the Nova core developers, thinks Nova shouldn't handle any temporal access (i.e. things happening in the future) | 09:09 |
jmlowe | Does anybody have a multi-attach use case other than providing large read only data sets? | 09:09 |
oneswig | jmlowe: would be good for a scalable bare metal cluster boot. (another read-only case) | 09:10 |
priteau | A discussion has also started on how to handle instance reservation (rather than just physical host reservation, which is supported in Blazar today) | 09:11 |
priteau | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/new-instance-reservation | 09:11 |
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oneswig | priteau: where are things with OPIE currently? Seems OK to have a separate service for managing future reservations, but when the future becomes now, what would happen if the machine's full | 09:11 |
oneswig | priteau: instance reservation - that would be a nice development in flexibility | 09:12 |
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priteau | The instance reservation discussion is driven by Masahito Muroi who is the Blazar PTL - I haven't had time to read it yet | 09:12 |
jmlowe | I have concerns about the use of host aggregates, are they thinking about a refined mechanism for Blazar to manipulate nova? | 09:12 |
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priteau | I don't know much about OPIE. I hope this forum session will give time for OPIE and Blazar devs to talk about how the two systems will work together | 09:13 |
b1airo | yes! and us to advocate use-cases | 09:13 |
oneswig | priteau: that would be ideal :-) | 09:13 |
oneswig | What I like is how the forum has stimulated some useful discussion already | 09:14 |
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priteau | jmlowe: Maybe we could use the placement API instead of aggregates | 09:14 |
b1airo | i'd like to understand jay's opposition to having anymore smarts about this in nova | 09:14 |
b1airo | i can understand if he prefers to integrate other pluggable services in the scheduler backend, but i'm worried that Nova API actually needs to be extended to support these use-cases nicely | 09:15 |
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b1airo | so in terms of forum topics i also have one for hypervisor tuning | 09:16 |
verdurin | b1airo: yes, I didn't quite understand his reluctance either | 09:17 |
oneswig | b1airo: has it been approved for discussion?? | 09:17 |
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b1airo | and one for special hardware (i need to reach out to the Cyborg folks) | 09:17 |
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priteau | Tim Randles and I also prepared a topic about customization of Ironic deployments steps which was rejected, but would be discussed in the Ironic feedback session | 09:18 |
oneswig | b1airo: had a small update for you from here wrt special hardware | 09:18 |
oneswig | will follow up later | 09:19 |
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oneswig | priteau: what was the issue? We have hopes of using the deployment steps as a means of BIOS/RAID reconfig | 09:19 |
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priteau | oneswig: it was for supporting booting to ramdisks or speeding up reboots with kexec: http://forumtopics.openstack.org/cfp/details/125 | 09:20 |
oneswig | aha | 09:20 |
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oneswig | Well we still have the chance to discuss these things at the forum, within a merged session. Be interesting to hear what the Ironic team think of it | 09:21 |
oneswig | Did anyone else propose forum topics they can update on? | 09:22 |
oneswig | OK, lets move on the agenda | 09:23 |
oneswig | #topic Updates from HPCAC conference in Lugano | 09:23 |
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simon-AS559 | zioproto is giving an OpenStack tutorial as we speak. | 09:23 |
simon-AS559 | (That's his apology for today I guess) | 09:23 |
oneswig | simon-AS559: not quite yet - Gabriele from Intel currently talking burst buffers and DAOS | 09:24 |
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oneswig | zioproto is up later on I believe | 09:24 |
simon-AS559 | Right, 15 minutes according to schedule :-) | 09:24 |
jmlowe | then lunch | 09:24 |
jmlowe | 14:15 local time | 09:24 |
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oneswig | We had jmlowe earlier with a great show-and-tell on Jetstream | 09:24 |
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verdurin | oneswig: do you have a link for the meeting? | 09:25 |
simon-AS559 | http://hpcadvisorycouncil.com/events/2017/swiss-workshop/agenda.php | 09:25 |
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verdurin | thanks, simon-AS559 | 09:26 |
oneswig | verdurin: I believe the sessions are filmed, haven't checked for uploaded presentations | 09:26 |
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oneswig | DK Panda has spoken a couple of times. One on MPI and one on big data. | 09:26 |
mpasserini | the presentations are usually published on the agenda page afterwards http://hpcadvisorycouncil.com/events/2017/swiss-workshop/agenda.php | 09:26 |
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oneswig | b1airo: DK Panda says GPUs + MVAPICH2-virth integration is "something we'll be working on very soon" | 09:26 |
jmlowe | The new one for me was the SPACK package manager | 09:26 |
mpasserini | some videos usually appear on http://insidehpc.com/ | 09:27 |
oneswig | so virtualised gpu-direct is on the roadmap | 09:27 |
jmlowe | some promise of sriov live migration, but was hard to nail him down on that | 09:27 |
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oneswig | priteau: apparently you have heat stacks on chameleon for the OSU HiBD environment - is that true and are they shareable? | 09:28 |
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jmlowe | The thing about SPACK that interested me was the possibility of dropping in complex hpc applications with a package manager bootstrapped by cloud-init or heat software configs | 09:28 |
oneswig | (This is the hadoop/spark/memcached/hbase + RDMA tecnology) | 09:28 |
priteau | oneswig: There is a RDMA Hadoop Heat template in progress. It will be at https://www.chameleoncloud.org/appliances/ when ready | 09:30 |
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jmlowe | ok, existing rdma-hadoop looks to be just an image not a heat template? | 09:31 |
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oneswig | priteau: Do you think the heat templates will be portable? I'm hoping just to rename a few flavors etc and try it out here. | 09:31 |
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priteau | jmlowe: What's in the catalog is just an old standalone image now, the Heat template + new image is still being developed | 09:32 |
jmlowe | priteau: ack, just verifying | 09:32 |
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oneswig | priteau: is that coming from OSU or UChicago? | 09:32 |
priteau | OSU | 09:33 |
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oneswig | Gabriele has just put up a slide with "BlobFS" on it - you heard it here first :-) | 09:34 |
priteau | oneswig: because it's on bare-metal, the Heat template actually deploys bare-metal nodes, and then runs VMs on top of that. So if you're using a virtualized OpenStack, you will have to adapt the template to remove the unnecessary code to launch VMs | 09:34 |
jmlowe | fascinating | 09:34 |
oneswig | priteau: I'd be running bare metal instances in this case | 09:34 |
oneswig | do you mean you install kvm on the nodes? | 09:35 |
jmlowe | how is it putting the rdma in the vm? sriov? | 09:35 |
priteau | jmlowe: yes, SR-IOV | 09:35 |
b1airo | priteau, sounds like the "install openstack kvm cloud" and "bring up hadoop/spark/... cluster on openstack" are really two different things..? | 09:37 |
jmlowe | oh, schedule change, openstack tutorial starting now by Saverio Proto | 09:37 |
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b1airo | reading back... a 15 min OpenStack tutorial?! that's going to be 40k feet :-) | 09:38 |
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jmlowe | I attempted 10k feet, it was rough | 09:38 |
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priteau | b1airo: I don't understand your question | 09:39 |
oneswig | zioproto's up right now, we can live-stream it! Speaking at normal speed currently, I assume he'll accellerate to a singularity by the end | 09:39 |
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simon-AS559 | +1 | 09:39 |
jmlowe | exciting, similar raison d'etat to my project, jetstream | 09:40 |
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oneswig | priteau: you install KVM in order to virtualise the hadoop workers - it's a two-stage process? | 09:41 |
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jmlowe | switch seems to give you the option of attaching to a science dmz or internal campus network | 09:42 |
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priteau | oneswig: I assume KVM is pre-installed, but there is some setup done to launch the VMs (not using OpenStack, just plain libvirt IIRC). I don't know all the details, OSU does | 09:43 |
jmlowe | runs mitaka newton coming in a few weeks | 09:43 |
jmlowe | good god, they are running windows vm's | 09:43 |
jmlowe | very interesting, they bridge the customer campus networks over the switch backbone with vpn | 09:45 |
jmlowe | into a provider network on the openstack side | 09:45 |
oneswig | I like this layer-2 extension of a local intranet into OpenStack, makes it very simple for user to assimilate the VMs into their world | 09:45 |
b1airo | sounds similar to what we do | 09:46 |
oneswig | Wonder what the side-effects are - simon-AS559 any comment? | 09:46 |
simon-AS559 | One side effect is we need to get l2gateway to work :-) | 09:46 |
jmlowe | I just did a one off to let one tenant break out of our vxlan and us a vlan to get access to a lustre filesystem | 09:46 |
simon-AS559 | But it's a bit early to say because we don't really have production deployments of this. | 09:46 |
simon-AS559 | Also the focus isn't really high-performance networking; more to get inside the customer's firewall to be able to access things like Active Directory and other servers. | 09:47 |
jmlowe | I'm sure it could be refined, was lots of hand wiring by me | 09:47 |
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simon-AS559 | Yes, we're trying to reduce that hand-wiring to a minimum; l2gateway is helpful there. | 09:48 |
jmlowe | oh, lots of bridge mappings, looks more similar to what I did | 09:48 |
oneswig | simon-AS559: sure, the convenience is the advantage here, but I'm guessing you'll have a second network attached for non-local-intranet traffic? | 09:48 |
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simon-AS559 | Yes, although that's not strictly necessary if you manage everything from the VPC (intranet<->cloud) side | 09:50 |
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jmlowe | they are using a plugin that I know nothing about, l2gw | 09:51 |
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oneswig | I've noticed time, we should cover other business! | 09:52 |
simon-AS559 | Update on the Boston Open Research Cloud declaration? | 09:52 |
jmlowe | end of live stream | 09:52 |
simon-AS559 | There's an agenda now | 09:52 |
simon-AS559 | On https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B4Y7flFgUgf9dElkaFkwbUhKblU | 09:53 |
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simon-AS559 | "BOCD-Tentative Workshop Agenda-V4.docx" | 09:53 |
simon-AS559 | Just FYI | 09:53 |
oneswig | #topic Boston roundup | 09:53 |
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oneswig | thanks simon-AS559, seems to be taking shape well. | 09:53 |
simon-AS559 | Yep, I like what I saw. Have a look! | 09:54 |
jmlowe | simon-AS559: See you in Boston? | 09:54 |
jmlowe | anybody else attending? | 09:55 |
simon-AS559 | Yes! (Thanks for the live stream btw) | 09:55 |
b1airo | o/ | 09:55 |
priteau | I'll be in Boston too | 09:56 |
jmlowe | any particular points those not attend would like us to carry with us to Boston? | 09:56 |
oneswig | On a different matter, we have full subsidy for an evening social and Tim's on the case for a nice venue. | 09:56 |
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oneswig | jmlowe: of course, we all want selfies from you lot drinking beer together :-) | 09:57 |
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verdurin | oneswig: it only counts if you can attract a locust | 09:57 |
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oneswig | verdurin: I suspect you may need to bring one with you if you're going to pull that trick off again! | 09:58 |
jmlowe | well, I'll drink a large quantity of beer and see what happens | 09:58 |
simon-AS559 | sounds like a plan | 09:58 |
oneswig | One other topic to squeeze in: jmlowe had a good idea - an IRC channel for WG chat | 09:59 |
oneswig | Should be easy to arrange. Any thoughts? | 09:59 |
jmlowe | would be great to spend more time chatting outside of the meetings | 09:59 |
verdurin | yes, good idea | 10:00 |
jmlowe | keep the meetings a bit more focused | 10:00 |
jmlowe | no idea how to get an "official" channel | 10:00 |
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verdurin | have to go - bye, and thanks for reports from Lugano | 10:00 |
priteau | If you want to start a new IRC channel, please consult with the InfrastructureTeam in #openstack-infra or at openstack-infra@lists.openstack.org to ensure it gets registered appropriately. | 10:00 |
priteau | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/IRC | 10:00 |
oneswig | I can ask, I've done other infra stuff | 10:00 |
oneswig | thanks priteau | 10:01 |
oneswig | ah, time up. | 10:01 |
jmlowe | perfect | 10:01 |
oneswig | last comments? | 10:01 |
oneswig | OK, thanks all! | 10:01 |
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oneswig | #endmeeting | 10:01 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Wed Apr 12 10:01:35 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 10:01 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_wg/2017/scientific_wg.2017-04-12-09.00.html | 10:01 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_wg/2017/scientific_wg.2017-04-12-09.00.txt | 10:01 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_wg/2017/scientific_wg.2017-04-12-09.00.log.html | 10:01 |
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b1airo | oh whoops - we finished! :-) | 10:02 |
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joehuang | hello | 14:00 |
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joehuang | #startmeeting tricircle | 14:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Apr 12 14:00:45 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is joehuang. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tricircle' | 14:00 |
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joehuang | #topic rollcall | 14:01 |
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joehuang | #info joehuang | 14:01 |
dongfeng | #info dongfeng | 14:01 |
zhiyuan | #info zhiyuan | 14:01 |
Yipei | #info Yipei | 14:01 |
yinxiulin | #info xiulin | 14:01 |
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WuCheng | #info WuCheng | 14:01 |
RongHui11 | #info | 14:02 |
RongHui11 | #info ronghui | 14:02 |
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joehuang | #topic feature implementation review | 14:02 |
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hejiawei | #info hejiawei | 14:02 |
joehuang | hello, let's have a short review for the features to be landed in next milestone | 14:02 |
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joehuang | please describe the progress in brief, thanks | 14:03 |
Yipei | for lbaas, trying to build load balancer management network | 14:03 |
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zhiyuan | (1) patch for flat network support has been submitted (2) patch for multi-gateway support has been submitted, Joe has left some comments, I will update the patch based on the comments tomorrow | 14:04 |
joehuang | as we discussed in last meeting, pike 1.5 will be scheduled on May 2 | 14:04 |
dongfeng | for async job api, I am still updating it. | 14:04 |
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RongHui11 | for Qos Spec continue update | 14:04 |
Yipei | once the lb-mgmt-net is built, i think creating a lb should be successful | 14:04 |
joehuang | great | 14:05 |
joehuang | for async api, documentation is needed too | 14:05 |
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hejiawei | for metering update, it will delayed one week update | 14:06 |
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joehuang | and for multi-gateway, I'll prepare a networking guide just like other features | 14:06 |
dongfeng | ok | 14:06 |
hejiawei | Due to my math test in next week | 14:06 |
zhiyuan | thanks Joe | 14:06 |
joehuang | #info aync api documentation is need too | 14:07 |
joehuang | to yipei, is there any other patches are in review for LBaaS feature enabling? | 14:07 |
dongfeng | will async job api landed in pike1.5? | 14:07 |
joehuang | to Dongfeng, I think it should be able to be landed in pike1.5 | 14:08 |
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joehuang | if you update in time | 14:08 |
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Yipei | to joehuang, no other patches | 14:08 |
dongfeng | ok, got it | 14:08 |
joehuang | for QoS code patches, it's inactive for some time | 14:08 |
joehuang | to Jiawei, one week delay is ok | 14:09 |
joehuang | for metering feature | 14:09 |
hejiawei | thanks | 14:10 |
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joehuang | has the blueprint for QoS feature been registered? | 14:10 |
Yipei | one issue found today, after creating a port in lb-mgmt-net for listening, the port status is down, even after setting neutron port as the ovs port's interface id | 14:10 |
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yinxiulin | vlan trunk already support batch creation, can submit a version tomorrow | 14:12 |
zhiyuan | "even after setting neutron ...", this setting is done manually or by agent? | 14:12 |
joehuang | you can find how the port is created in ocata devstack plugin | 14:12 |
Yipei | manually | 14:12 |
Yipei | not by agent | 14:12 |
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joehuang | #link https://github.com/openstack/octavia/blob/master/devstack/plugin.sh | 14:13 |
Yipei | https://github.com/openstack/octavia/blob/master/devstack/plugin.sh#L206 | 14:13 |
joehuang | to Xiuling, thanks | 14:13 |
Yipei | i follow the plugin.sh, the port status is always down | 14:13 |
yinxiulin | you are welcome | 14:14 |
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joehuang | port mac and port IP must be set correctly | 14:15 |
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zhiyuan | Is restarting OVS agent useful? | 14:15 |
joehuang | Hello, xiongqiu, will QoS code be ready for pike1.5? | 14:16 |
Yipei | to joehuang, i set the ip and mac of the neutron port to the ohs port, i.e., o-hm0 | 14:16 |
Yipei | to zhiyuan, i did not restart ovs agent, i will try | 14:16 |
joehuang | have you done this sudo ip link set dev o-hm0 address $MGMT_PORT_MAC | 14:17 |
longxiongqiu | if qos spec is not problems, i will update qos code. | 14:17 |
joehuang | sudo dhclient -v o-hm0 -cf $OCTAVIA_DHCLIENT_CONF | 14:17 |
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joehuang | to xiongqiu, don't need to upload all QoS code in one patch, you split it into several smaller patches | 14:18 |
zhiyuan | I think after restart, OVS agent will find the new port and send a RPC request to update the port UP | 14:18 |
joehuang | all code in one patch is too huge to review | 14:18 |
longxiongqiu | recently i prepare papers for graduation, sorry for delaying | 14:19 |
longxiongqiu | ok | 14:19 |
longxiongqiu | i will split the patch to some small patch | 14:19 |
joehuang | zhiyuan's proposal may work | 14:19 |
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Yipei | to joehuang, 'sudo dhclient -v o-hm0 -cf $OCTAVIA_DHCLIENT_CONF' fails | 14:20 |
zhiyuan | In the octavia plugin.sh, the creation of management port may be done before agent starts | 14:20 |
Yipei | i think it is due to the port status | 14:20 |
joehuang | to zhiyuan +1 | 14:20 |
Yipei | to zhiyuan, i will have a try | 14:20 |
Yipei | restart the ovs agent | 14:20 |
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joehuang | ok, Yipei, you can try it offline | 14:22 |
Yipei | to zhiyuan, i restart the ovs agent, the port status is ACTIVE | 14:22 |
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zhiyuan | cool | 14:22 |
Yipei | it works | 14:22 |
joehuang | very good, it works immediately | 14:22 |
Yipei | yes | 14:23 |
joehuang | #topic Pike-1.5 (May.2) preparation | 14:23 |
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joehuang | hello, for pike1.5 | 14:24 |
joehuang | this release will be used in OPNFV Beijing summit for VNF high availability across OpenStack | 14:24 |
joehuang | let's list the things to do | 14:24 |
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Yipei | i think creating load balancer can be done, but cannot ensure listener, pool, and member | 14:27 |
joehuang | ok | 14:28 |
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joehuang | you can submit small patch, it can be merged efficiently | 14:28 |
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dongfeng | the async job api is bottom function. I'll try to make it merged May 1th | 14:29 |
joehuang | code for flat network and multi-gateway features are ready, only waiting for review and approve | 14:29 |
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zhiyuan | Do we need to download OPNFV tool to test the integration? | 14:29 |
Yipei | actually, not much code, but many configuration. i think it is necessary to prepare a guide for lbaas | 14:30 |
joehuang | to dongfeng "bottom function"? | 14:30 |
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joehuang | to zhiyuan, A team in OPNFV multisite is working on the intergration | 14:30 |
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joehuang | I am only afraid the local_plugin may not work with Ocata Neutron | 14:31 |
joehuang | for central Neutron and Tricircle, it can be booted in a virtual machine | 14:31 |
zhiyuan | for your concern, we can do the experiment our own | 14:31 |
dongfeng | I mean not very useful. but useful for admin. | 14:32 |
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joehuang | yes, to see whether it can work with Ocata Neutron for local plugin. The requirements may conflict | 14:32 |
joehuang | so we may have to use Ocata requirements | 14:33 |
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joehuang | To yipei, the guide could be release after the whole LBaaS is working | 14:34 |
Yipei | ok, got it | 14:34 |
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joehuang | #info test whether local plugin work under Ocata Neutron | 14:36 |
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joehuang | feel free to discuss if you find something is very important in pike1.5 | 14:38 |
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joehuang | #topic open discussion | 14:38 |
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joehuang | any other topics? | 14:38 |
Yipei | yes | 14:38 |
joehuang | please | 14:39 |
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Yipei | when creating a port with specified security group in local neutron, it will fails. Because the security group is not created in central neutorn | 14:40 |
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zhiyuan | you mean octavia will create a security group by itself? | 14:41 |
Yipei | yes | 14:41 |
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joehuang | Ocatavia is configured to use central Neutron | 14:42 |
Yipei | not accurate | 14:42 |
joehuang | why it will create seg in local neutron | 14:42 |
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Yipei | we have bottom port and top port | 14:42 |
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Yipei | but we do not have bottom security group or top security group | 14:43 |
joehuang | not get your point | 14:43 |
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zhiyuan | if SEG is not given, default SEG will be used | 14:43 |
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Yipei | to zhiyuan, yes | 14:45 |
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Yipei | for example, for the health management port, it is created in local neutron, and a top port is also created in central neutron | 14:46 |
zhiyuan | default SEG case is handled by local plugin | 14:46 |
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Yipei | if we specified one as octavia does | 14:47 |
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Yipei | i have to use default SEG when creating the port, and then update it with specified SEG | 14:48 |
Yipei | but top port's SEG is still default | 14:48 |
zhiyuan | when creating management port, Octavia will create a new SEG and use this SEG to create a port? | 14:49 |
Yipei | yes | 14:49 |
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joehuang | Have you configured the Neutron endpoint to central Neutron or local Neutron in Ocatavia's configuration? | 14:51 |
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Yipei | not for creating lb, just for building lb management net manually | 14:53 |
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Yipei | tricircle cannot cover such cases, i.e., creating a port in local neutron with specified SEG of local neutorn | 14:53 |
zhiyuan | if it's manuall operation, you can create the SEG in central neutron first | 14:53 |
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joehuang | If you create the network manully, you should create the network/subnet/SEG in central Neutron first | 14:53 |
joehuang | ok, other topic? | 14:55 |
Yipei | no for me | 14:55 |
zhiyuan | no for me | 14:55 |
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joehuang | ok, thank you for attending the meeting | 14:56 |
joehuang | #endmeeting | 14:56 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Wed Apr 12 14:56:40 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:56 |
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openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tricircle/2017/tricircle.2017-04-12-14.00.html | 14:56 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tricircle/2017/tricircle.2017-04-12-14.00.txt | 14:56 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tricircle/2017/tricircle.2017-04-12-14.00.log.html | 14:56 |
joehuang | bye | 14:56 |
zhiyuan | bye | 14:56 |
Yipei | bye | 14:57 |
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hejiawei | bye | 14:58 |
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Menthos | #startmeeting massively_distributed_clouds | 15:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Apr 12 15:00:06 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Menthos. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
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openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
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ad_rien_ | #chair ad_rien_ Menthos | 15:00 |
Menthos | #chair ad_rien_ | 15:00 |
openstack | Current chairs: Menthos ad_rien_ | 15:00 |
Menthos | ;-) | 15:00 |
ad_rien_ | ;) | 15:00 |
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Menthos | Hello all! | 15:01 |
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jamemcc | Hello | 15:01 |
ansmith | o/ | 15:01 |
kgiusti | o/ | 15:01 |
rcherrueau | o/ | 15:01 |
mabderrahim | o/ | 15:01 |
ad_rien_ | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/massively_distributed_ircmeetings_2017 Agenda line 445 | 15:01 |
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paul-andreraymon | Hello Everyone | 15:02 |
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ad_rien_ | let's wait just two more minutes | 15:02 |
ad_rien_ | #topic Announcement | 15:03 |
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ad_rien_ | so nothing special from Inria side. | 15:03 |
ad_rien_ | We are working on the WANWide Experiments | 15:03 |
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ad_rien_ | So we hope to have preliminary results by end of april | 15:04 |
rcherrueau | #link https://github.com/rcherrueau/performance-docs/commit/7b3387362c9f1c83ae1da098381aee22e04356d2 | 15:04 |
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ad_rien_ | @rcherrueau can you copy/paste the link | 15:04 |
ad_rien_ | ok thanks | 15:04 |
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ad_rien_ | And if I'm correct the slot to further discuss OSLO messaging related questions has been accepted (but I propose to discuss that point later). | 15:05 |
ad_rien_ | Finally I would appreciate whether we can arrange a date for the ecomp presentation. | 15:05 |
kgiusti | +1 | 15:05 |
ad_rien_ | And that's all from our side | 15:05 |
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ad_rien_ | so the floor is yours ? | 15:06 |
paul-andreraymon | Is there any help we could provide to the WANWide experiements? | 15:06 |
ad_rien_ | Right now we are performing some initial experiemnts | 15:06 |
rcherrueau | Yes, a full time engineer would be cool :) | 15:06 |
ad_rien_ | so I don't think so but if you have something in mind ? | 15:06 |
ad_rien_ | @rcherrueau ;) | 15:07 |
kgiusti | I'll add the forum meeting details to the etherpad... | 15:07 |
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ad_rien_ | maybe some feedback regarding the experiment protocol | 15:07 |
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ad_rien_ | that is described in the above link | 15:07 |
paul-andreraymon | I will look into both. Should I contact you by email. | 15:07 |
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ad_rien_ | sure | 15:07 |
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ad_rien_ | either me or rcherrueau | 15:08 |
ad_rien_ | firstname.lastname@inria.fr | 15:08 |
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ad_rien_ | ok | 15:08 |
ad_rien_ | any other news to be shared from your side ? | 15:08 |
ad_rien_ | before jumping into the agenda ? | 15:08 |
ad_rien_ | ok | 15:09 |
ad_rien_ | so maybe before starting to discuss about technics, may we try to converge on the ecomp slot | 15:09 |
ad_rien_ | jamemcc: can you propose some slots on the fly ? | 15:09 |
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ad_rien_ | I know it is a bit hard.... | 15:09 |
ad_rien_ | so I apologize but it looks that doodle was not the best solution | 15:10 |
paul-andreraymon | Will we be able to record the session? Maybe we do not need to have everyone attend. | 15:10 |
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ad_rien_ | so let's try to arrange in real-time :-P | 15:10 |
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ad_rien_ | I hope this will help | 15:10 |
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ad_rien_ | jamemcc: ? | 15:10 |
jamemcc | I beleive it was my fault we did not have the ECOMP/ONAP meeting yesterday as agreed. Even for myself I did not ahve the meeting/logistics on my calendar. | 15:11 |
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Menthos | #topic ECOMP | 15:11 |
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jamemcc | On the topic of early confusion/timezones I also learned in Doiodle you have an option to show the users timezone | 15:12 |
jamemcc | I've tried to set one up that way here: https://doodle.com/poll/y7dmahbdfcuheqv6 | 15:12 |
ad_rien_ | yes I enabled it on my side but does not seems to run | 15:12 |
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paul-andreraymon | jamecc: how about you set a time that is convenient for you and whoever can attend does? | 15:12 |
ad_rien_ | 17th is eastern day | 15:12 |
ad_rien_ | s/run/well functionning | 15:12 |
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jamemcc | Good suggestion Paul I think if myself and Claude can't attend I won't put the option there | 15:13 |
ad_rien_ | can you extend to thursday | 15:13 |
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ad_rien_ | thursday afternoon would be perfect ? | 15:14 |
ad_rien_ | the 20th ? | 15:14 |
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ad_rien_ | 1 or 2 UTC ? | 15:14 |
ad_rien_ | 1:00 or 2:00 o'clock UTC ? | 15:14 |
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jamemcc | Yes to 1 and 2 UTC - seems to be the time we can meet | 15:15 |
paul-andreraymon | that would be 8 or 9 am Central for the us. | 15:15 |
jamemcc | yes | 15:15 |
ad_rien_ | 1:00/2:00 PM | 15:15 |
ad_rien_ | just to be clear enough and avoid confusions | 15:15 |
Menthos | works for me | 15:15 |
ad_rien_ | +1 | 15:15 |
paul-andreraymon | It works for me | 15:15 |
ad_rien_ | redhat folks ? | 15:15 |
jamemcc | Ahh - sorry | 15:16 |
jamemcc | For Claude he is in Pacific time | 15:16 |
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ansmith | +1 | 15:16 |
jamemcc | So he request not to book before 2 UTC | 15:16 |
ad_rien_ | 1 UTC or even sooner? | 15:16 |
paul-andreraymon | 2 to 3 pm UTC works for me | 15:16 |
kgiusti | I'll be traveling 4/20-23 | 15:17 |
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ad_rien_ | jamemcc: ? | 15:17 |
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paul-andreraymon | Can we look at wednesday the 19th to accomodate kgiusti? | 15:18 |
ad_rien_ | I'm travelling :( | 15:18 |
ad_rien_ | but if the session can be recorded it is ok | 15:18 |
paul-andreraymon | :-( | 15:18 |
ad_rien_ | I will give it a look after | 15:18 |
ad_rien_ | ok we can do it the week after | 15:18 |
kgiusti | ansmith: what's your schedule look like? | 15:18 |
ansmith | works for me | 15:18 |
ad_rien_ | on Monday 24th ? | 15:18 |
ad_rien_ | 1:00 PM UTC ? | 15:19 |
kgiusti | +1 4/24 | 15:19 |
ansmith | +1 | 15:19 |
Menthos | 24th won't work for me but if the session can be recorded that's great | 15:19 |
ad_rien_ | sorry 2 UTC to match Claude constraints | 15:19 |
rcherrueau | +1 | 15:20 |
ad_rien_ | Menthos I will give you a summary ;) | 15:20 |
jamemcc | Claude can do the 24th. It is also a User Committee meeting but I can do both as that one will be IRC | 15:20 |
Menthos | ad_rien_: thanks | 15:20 |
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ad_rien_ | so for the moment If I'm correct we are on Monday 24th at 2UTC ? | 15:20 |
paul-andreraymon | +1 | 15:20 |
jamemcc | Agreed will send invite soon or at least before end of day | 15:20 |
kgiusti | +1 | 15:21 |
ad_rien_ | #info ecomp presentation by webconf on Monday 24th 2:00 UTC | 15:21 |
ad_rien_ | jamemcc: do we need to install something special (plugins, addons) ? | 15:21 |
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ad_rien_ | or will we receive mandatory information by mail? | 15:21 |
jamemcc | It's a Skype for business meeting - so I think you can join with the normal skype client - how about I test with you first? | 15:22 |
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ad_rien_ | #action jamemcc will send invitations by mails. Please put your mail in the pad | 15:23 |
jamemcc | Want to make sure you can see the presentation and or whiteboard | 15:23 |
ad_rien_ | ok great | 15:23 |
ad_rien_ | thanks | 15:23 |
paul-andreraymon | jamescc: I would be happy to volunteer my zoom bridge if that works better. | 15:23 |
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ad_rien_ | so I guess this point is now closed (please do not forget to put your email in the pad for receiving the invitation). | 15:23 |
jamemcc | Ok Paul - IU've been wanting to try it | 15:23 |
ad_rien_ | Ok can we switch to the next point ? | 15:24 |
paul-andreraymon | I will email you offline. | 15:24 |
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ad_rien_ | #topic AMQP discussions | 15:24 |
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kgiusti | hey now! | 15:24 |
ad_rien_ | @rcherrueau @kgiusti | 15:24 |
ad_rien_ | :D | 15:24 |
ad_rien_ | please just go ahead | 15:25 |
kgiusti | I've updated the epad with some preliminary testing done here at redhat | 15:25 |
kgiusti | We're just getting started testing various o.m. backend deployments | 15:25 |
kgiusti | We're working on a summit preso to go along with this. | 15:26 |
kgiusti | I've also reached out to the other oslo.messenger backend devs to get involved. | 15:26 |
kgiusti | Sadly no response yet :( | 15:26 |
kgiusti | I need someone with kafka and zeromq expertise | 15:26 |
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kgiusti | or I'm heading for a long learning curve :) | 15:27 |
kgiusti | For the next week we'll work on other testing scenarios and tuning. | 15:27 |
ad_rien_ | so right now you are focusing on RabbitMQ vs QPID ? | 15:27 |
ad_rien_ | is it correct ? | 15:27 |
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kgiusti | To be specific | 15:28 |
kgiusti | 'Qpid' is the apache project, 'qpidd' is the C++ broker, qdrouterd is the router... so | 15:28 |
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kgiusti | we're focusing now on rabbitmq + qdrouterd | 15:28 |
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ad_rien_ | Ok, thanks for claryfing this. From our side, we can open an action from our side to see with the performance team whether it is quite easy to deploy ZMQ. | 15:28 |
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ad_rien_ | since our framework is leveraging kolla | 15:29 |
ad_rien_ | we should check what are the efforts to be able to deploy zmq instead of rabbit | 15:29 |
kgiusti | +1 to zmq testing | 15:29 |
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kgiusti | frankly zmq is pretty low on the testing totem pole - due to scale lab resource constraints.... | 15:30 |
ad_rien_ | regarding qpid, if I'm right providing the ansible playbook is stil an open action? | 15:30 |
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kgiusti | yes I believe so - ansmith? | 15:30 |
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ansmith | yes, still open | 15:31 |
ad_rien_ | with a possible milestone? | 15:31 |
ad_rien_ | :-P | 15:31 |
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ad_rien_ | just try to see from our side how we can define a reachable roadmap. | 15:31 |
ansmith | targeted to get done with containerization work, likely post summit | 15:31 |
ad_rien_ | until the summit, I think our effort will focus on vanilla openstack WAN evaluations | 15:32 |
ad_rien_ | Then we may have some additional efforts with Orange folks to dive into the oslo messaging questions | 15:32 |
kgiusti | +1 | 15:32 |
ad_rien_ | @ansmith ack | 15:32 |
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ad_rien_ | ok | 15:33 |
ad_rien_ | I don't know whether jfpeltier joined us ? | 15:33 |
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ad_rien_ | I don't think so but | 15:33 |
ad_rien_ | you can find the presentation he gave us in the pad. | 15:33 |
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ad_rien_ | AFAIK, we have two pendings actions on that point | 15:35 |
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ad_rien_ | 1./ summary the current exchanges related to AMQP (@rcherrueau) | 15:36 |
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rcherrueau | ad_rien_: yes, about that ... my first priority is finalising WAN experiements. So, I don't do my today's action. | 15:37 |
ad_rien_ | 2./ have a summary of jfpeltier regarding his slides (and maybe to see what are the similarities w-r-t ombt | 15:37 |
ad_rien_ | yes I know, do not worry ;) | 15:37 |
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ad_rien_ | maybe regarding this second point, kgiusti you already has an idea? | 15:37 |
ad_rien_ | (BTW OSNoise is the AMQP stresser designed at Orange) | 15:38 |
ad_rien_ | ? | 15:38 |
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kgiusti | andy spent some time looking at the source | 15:38 |
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kgiusti | and I think - though I have to confirm - that osnoise may only work with rabbitmq | 15:38 |
ad_rien_ | ok | 15:38 |
kgiusti | due to the use of pika | 15:38 |
ad_rien_ | that is an important news indeed | 15:39 |
kgiusti | but I need to confirm that - action item for me. | 15:39 |
ad_rien_ | #action clarify the rabbitMQ dependence of OSNoise | 15:39 |
ad_rien_ | ok thanks | 15:39 |
ad_rien_ | anyway I think both works are probably valuable but we should try to avoid reinventing the wheel ;) | 15:39 |
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ansmith | that is what I remember from a quick review | 15:40 |
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ad_rien_ | at least from our side, it would be great to see which is the best candidate to be integrated within the EnOS framework :-P | 15:40 |
kgiusti | +1 | 15:40 |
ad_rien_ | ok | 15:41 |
ad_rien_ | anythink else regarding AMQP? | 15:41 |
kgiusti | not at this time | 15:41 |
ad_rien_ | Do we need to prepare discussions for the forum session? (i.e. start to identify key questions?) | 15:41 |
rcherrueau | kgiusti: ansmith: If I am right, amqp stresser use pika wich is supposed to be AMQP implementation independant. | 15:41 |
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kgiusti | mmmm - iirc pika only talks amqp 0-9 and 0-10, so no zmq and no qdrouterd | 15:42 |
rcherrueau | kgiusti: ansmith: but we could discuss about that next meeting | 15:42 |
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kgiusti | +1 | 15:42 |
ansmith | ombt uses oslo.messaging so would lend itself to swapping out backends | 15:42 |
rcherrueau | kgiusti: Oh! OK | 15:43 |
rcherrueau | ansmith: yes focusing on oslo.messaging is a good idea | 15:43 |
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kgiusti | ad_rien_: to clarify - are you talking about the oslo.messaging forum? | 15:43 |
ad_rien_ | yes | 15:44 |
ad_rien_ | ? | 15:44 |
ad_rien_ | the second slot? | 15:44 |
kgiusti | ad_rien_: ok | 15:44 |
kgiusti | yes | 15:44 |
kgiusti | the goal is to set out a plan by which we can come up with deployment recommendations | 15:44 |
ad_rien_ | so should we iterate by mail to move forward on that point ? | 15:44 |
ad_rien_ | maybe by going on the next thread? | 15:45 |
kgiusti | sure thing | 15:45 |
ad_rien_ | @rcherrueau @paul-andreraymon @all; what do you think ? | 15:45 |
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ad_rien_ | ok so seems that we can go on by mail. | 15:46 |
ad_rien_ | on that point. | 15:46 |
ad_rien_ | anything else? can we move to the next topic? | 15:46 |
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ad_rien_ | #topic EnOS | 15:46 |
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ad_rien_ | So maybe find additional things regarding EnOS. | 15:47 |
ad_rien_ | @rcherrueau suceeded to integrate OSProfiler | 15:47 |
ad_rien_ | within EnOS. This means that now when we perform performance evaluations we also get OSProfiler traces | 15:47 |
rcherrueau | I am working on a tool that queries these traces | 15:48 |
ad_rien_ | This is valuable as it gives us lot of information in addition to delivering sequence diagrams (ie. exchange/interactions between core-serivces) | 15:48 |
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* ad_rien_ is looking for a link | 15:48 | |
rcherrueau | The idea is to get information on the workflow, e.g., where RPC happens ... | 15:49 |
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ad_rien_ | #link https://docs.openstack.org/ops-guide/_images/provision-an-instance.png sequence diagram exemple | 15:49 |
ad_rien_ | so right now it is not as fine as the figure I copied/pasted above but the idea is to get such diagrams. | 15:50 |
ad_rien_ | This will help us to better understand/identify all messages. this is important for the WAN context | 15:50 |
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ad_rien_ | so we will be able to finely study the impact of the exchanges and try to elaborate what are the best deployment scenarios (if your remind we identify a few scenarios on google slides) | 15:51 |
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ad_rien_ | last but not the least as mentioned we are performing a few preliminary experiments. I hope we will have more information next time. | 15:52 |
ad_rien_ | Ok | 15:52 |
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ad_rien_ | so let's move to the last topic | 15:52 |
ad_rien_ | #topic Boston face to face meeting | 15:52 |
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ad_rien_ | I opened an etherpad | 15:52 |
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ad_rien_ | and I encourage you to add points that you would like to discuss during our session. | 15:52 |
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ad_rien_ | maybe it would be great to identify concrete actions/objectives for the R cycle? | 15:53 |
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ad_rien_ | I would also appreciate if you can add in the pad the presentation you think might be related to the massively distributed WG | 15:54 |
ad_rien_ | so that's all from my side. | 15:54 |
ad_rien_ | #topic open discussion | 15:55 |
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ad_rien_ | we have 5 minutes left? | 15:55 |
ad_rien_ | should we raise something particular ? | 15:55 |
ad_rien_ | looks not | 15:56 |
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ad_rien_ | so thanks for joining the meeting | 15:56 |
paul-andreraymon | Anyone has any thought on impact of MD on Nova scheduler? | 15:56 |
ad_rien_ | and please do not forget to ammend/complete the etherpad in order to be more fruitful we can during the next summit | 15:56 |
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ad_rien_ | MD? | 15:56 |
ad_rien_ | paul-andreraymon: ? | 15:56 |
paul-andreraymon | MAssively distributed | 15:56 |
ad_rien_ | ok | 15:56 |
ad_rien_ | I can add that to the next agenda | 15:57 |
ad_rien_ | there are ongoing activities at Orange | 15:57 |
ad_rien_ | and IBM made a work using redis | 15:57 |
ad_rien_ | (they should have presented this at the Barcelona summit but the presentation has been cancelled). | 15:57 |
ad_rien_ | So let's add that to the agenda next time | 15:57 |
ad_rien_ | ok ? | 15:57 |
paul-andreraymon | Great! | 15:57 |
ad_rien_ | Maybe you also have some points in mind paul-andreraymon? | 15:58 |
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ad_rien_ | ideas ? | 15:58 |
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ad_rien_ | ok thanks | 15:58 |
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ad_rien_ | So let's conclude our meeting | 15:58 |
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ad_rien_ | #action add scheduling decision to the agenda | 15:58 |
Menthos | #endmeeting | 15:58 |
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smcginnis | #startmeeting Cinder | 16:00 |
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openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
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smcginnis | ping dulek duncant eharney geguileo winston-d e0ne jungleboyj jgriffith thingee smcginnis hemna xyang1 tbarron scottda erlon rhedlind jbernard _alastor_ bluex karthikp_ patrickeast dongwenjuan JaniceLee cFouts Thelo vivekd adrianofr mtanino yuriy_n17 karlamrhein diablo_rojo jay.xu jgregor baumann rajinir wilson-l reduxio wanghao thrawn01 chris_morrell watanabe.isao,tommylikehu mdovgal ildikov | 16:00 |
mdovgal | hi | 16:00 |
smcginnis | wxy viks ketonne abishop sivn breitz | 16:00 |
rajinir | o/ | 16:00 |
patrickeast | Hi | 16:00 |
geguileo | Hi! | 16:00 |
tbarron | hi | 16:00 |
tommylikehu | hi | 16:00 |
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jungleboyj | o/ | 16:00 |
Swanson | hello | 16:00 |
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e0ne | hi | 16:00 |
wxy| | hi | 16:00 |
xyang1 | Hi | 16:00 |
smcginnis | Hey everyone. | 16:00 |
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smcginnis | #topic Announcements | 16:01 |
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smcginnis | #info Pike-1 milestone cut | 16:01 |
Rockyg | hey sean! now I'm leaving again | 16:01 |
smcginnis | Rockyg: :) | 16:01 |
smcginnis | Since Pike-1 doesn't have any specific Cinder items, I've already done the release for that milestone. | 16:02 |
diablo_rojo_phon | Hello :) | 16:02 |
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smcginnis | I think some good progress so far, but quite a few decent patches sitting out there. | 16:02 |
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smcginnis | Please, please, do reviews if you have the cycles. | 16:03 |
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cuhler | 0/ | 16:03 |
smcginnis | And especially cores, please also review cinder-specs too. There's a few of those that we want to get in Pike that could use some attention. | 16:04 |
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tommylikehu | +1 | 16:04 |
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smcginnis | #topic How should we clean up the expired user messages? | 16:04 |
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smcginnis | tommylikehu: All yours. | 16:05 |
tommylikehu | yes, I think this part is left by sheer. As we already has this feature merged, we should consider how to clean the expired messages out. | 16:05 |
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abishop | o/ | 16:05 |
eharney | i think the original plan was to use a periodic task, which still seems like a good idea | 16:05 |
e0ne | IMO, cinder-manage command will be good for this | 16:05 |
smcginnis | eharney: That's what I thought. | 16:05 |
eharney | e0ne: i disagree | 16:05 |
tommylikehu | wow | 16:05 |
cFouts | o/ | 16:05 |
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tommylikehu | we should have a decision | 16:05 |
eharney | no real reason to push this off to a manual admin action when we can just do it from within the service | 16:06 |
smcginnis | I would like it to be automatic and not something an operator would have to remember to do. | 16:06 |
smcginnis | eharney: +1 | 16:06 |
tommylikehu | I like the automatically way | 16:06 |
mdovgal | i think we can make both variants | 16:06 |
e0ne | eharney: good point | 16:06 |
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tommylikehu | mdovgal why both | 16:06 |
jungleboyj | smcginnis: ++ | 16:06 |
smcginnis | mdovgal: We could, but is there a benefit? | 16:06 |
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e0ne | I won't argue if community decides to have periodic job for it | 16:07 |
mdovgal | tommylikehu, why not? maybe i need to clean up it immediately, not to wait when periodic task will be triggered | 16:07 |
smcginnis | Anyone have any argument for not making it a periodic task that's done automatically? | 16:07 |
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tommylikehu | smcginnis: we can delete when inserting | 16:08 |
tommylikehu | once a day maybe | 16:08 |
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mdovgal | to which service will this task be connected? | 16:08 |
tommylikehu | but I prefer the perodic task | 16:08 |
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eharney | cinder-volume i'd assume | 16:08 |
smcginnis | mdovgal: I think you are right we could do both. But I think I would rather make it automatic first, then wait to see if there is operator feedback that they need a manual method before we implement that. | 16:09 |
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smcginnis | mdovgal: That make sense? | 16:09 |
mdovgal | smcginnis, i think it's ok | 16:09 |
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cFouts | smcginnis: +1 | 16:09 |
smcginnis | mdovgal: Cool | 16:09 |
geguileo | How are we going to trigger the automatic removal? | 16:09 |
tommylikehu | when expired | 16:09 |
geguileo | No, I mean how the task is going to be fired | 16:10 |
tommylikehu | check the records after a period | 16:10 |
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mdovgal | tommylikehu, just to check count of records? or datetime of them? | 16:11 |
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tommylikehu | I think the datetime would be ok | 16:11 |
tommylikehu | or the expired_at column | 16:11 |
geguileo | tommylikehu: How is the method that does the cleanup going to be started/run? | 16:11 |
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cFouts | geguileo: periodic_task? | 16:12 |
jungleboyj | geguileo: Yeah, periodic task in cinder-volume? | 16:12 |
geguileo | cFouts: where? and how do you make sure it only runs once and not in multiple services? | 16:12 |
cFouts | ah | 16:12 |
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jungleboyj | Oh ... | 16:12 |
tommylikehu | why not scheduler | 16:12 |
geguileo | jungleboyj: What happens when you have multiple c-vol services? | 16:12 |
geguileo | tommylikehu: Same issue | 16:12 |
tommylikehu | ok | 16:12 |
jungleboyj | geguileo: Yeah, that just hit me. | 16:12 |
geguileo | We don't have a leader, so they could all trigger it | 16:12 |
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smcginnis | geguileo: Good point. But would that really cause a problem if multiple services ran it? | 16:13 |
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geguileo | smcginnis: Depends on the queries they do and how many services you have running them | 16:13 |
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geguileo | as they could come in waves | 16:13 |
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geguileo | evey though you could add a randomization to the period of the start of the task | 16:14 |
smcginnis | geguileo: Dont' know, but wouldn't it just be a DELETE WHERE expired_at > now, so one service would delete all records, the rest would just pass. | 16:14 |
geguileo | smcginnis: If that's all it really takes then it's ok | 16:14 |
smcginnis | Yeah, not sure. | 16:14 |
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tommylikehu | smcginnis: +1 | 16:15 |
geguileo | just wanted to bring it up in case it turned out to be more complex | 16:15 |
smcginnis | tommylikehu: But I think we have an answer. We can debate implementation details in a review if you want to implement something. | 16:15 |
wxy| | FYI, this's what glance does for the expired task: when users list tasks, glance will delete the expired ones at the same time. | 16:15 |
smcginnis | wxy|: Only on the list request? | 16:15 |
wxy| | smcginnis: yeah | 16:15 |
smcginnis | Problem I see with that is if no one asks for them, they just accumulate. | 16:16 |
smcginnis | Not sure if that would actually be the case though. | 16:16 |
tommylikehu | it could | 16:16 |
smcginnis | But I kind of like the periodic task idea better at this point. | 16:16 |
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tommylikehu | smcginnis: I can pick up that implementation | 16:16 |
smcginnis | tommylikehu: Great, thanks! OK if we move on then. | 16:16 |
tommylikehu | thanks | 16:16 |
wxy| | https://github.com/openstack/glance/blob/master/glance/db/sqlalchemy/api.py#L1502 | 16:16 |
smcginnis | wxy|: Thanks | 16:17 |
e0ne | cinder-manage with cron job could be an option in a future | 16:17 |
smcginnis | #topic How should we support like filters for name/description etc columns? | 16:17 |
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smcginnis | e0ne: Could work too, but requires outside configuration. Certainly a possibility though. | 16:17 |
tommylikehu | let's assume we would have like filter in the future :) | 16:17 |
smcginnis | :) | 16:17 |
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tommylikehu | will we support both exact-match and inexact-match for one columns? | 16:18 |
smcginnis | jgriffith: You around? I know you had some opinions on filtering. | 16:18 |
jgriffith | I am now :) | 16:18 |
tommylikehu | something like 'cinder list --filters name=vol' and 'cinder list --filters name%=vol' | 16:18 |
jgriffith | Literally just logged on | 16:18 |
tommylikehu | jgriffith: thanks | 16:19 |
smcginnis | jgriffith: Timing is everything. ;) | 16:19 |
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jgriffith | so I'm not a fan of the "filter on all things", that being said I talked to tommylikehu last night and if people would like this functionality that's cool; we could work it into the proposed generic filter design that I proposed | 16:19 |
jgriffith | but honestly a lot of this is overkill IMO, if people need this that badly just write your own client/shell script to do it | 16:20 |
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jgriffith | that's all I have :P | 16:20 |
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tbarron | +1 for integrating it into the proposed generic filter design | 16:21 |
smcginnis | tbarron: Agree | 16:21 |
tommylikehu | jgriffith, tbarron I just updated my spec to take advantages of jgriffith 's pne | 16:21 |
tommylikehu | one | 16:21 |
tommylikehu | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/442982/ | 16:22 |
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tommylikehu | it seems that no one cares about this topic on whether we should support them bothv:( | 16:22 |
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tommylikehu | both :( | 16:22 |
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smcginnis | I do think if we're going to provide filtering on the service side, it would be a better user experience to be able to do both. | 16:23 |
tommylikehu | yes :) | 16:23 |
tbarron | smcginnis: +1 | 16:23 |
smcginnis | I think folks care but are still thinking through it. ;) | 16:24 |
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smcginnis | tommylikehu: OK, unless anyone brings up a strong argument against both, I think we have an answer. | 16:24 |
tommylikehu | thanks, that's clear | 16:24 |
smcginnis | #topic remotefs based 3rd party CIs broken | 16:24 |
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smcginnis | This was added by kaisers1 but he wasn't able to attend | 16:25 |
smcginnis | remotefs drivers are broken right now apparently. | 16:25 |
smcginnis | https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1681406 | 16:25 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1681406 in Cinder "RemoteFS: volume cascade delete fails" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Lucian Petrut (petrutlucian94) | 16:25 |
smcginnis | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/455256/ Proposed fix. | 16:25 |
smcginnis | So I think he wanted this in the meeting agenda to just raise awareness. | 16:26 |
smcginnis | Consider it raised. | 16:26 |
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jungleboyj | I feel aware. | 16:26 |
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smcginnis | :) | 16:27 |
smcginnis | #topic Open Discussion | 16:27 |
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* jungleboyj laughs ... If only. | 16:27 | |
smcginnis | Anything else to discuss today? | 16:27 |
smcginnis | Summit is coming up. | 16:27 |
smcginnis | Hope to see a lot of folks there. | 16:27 |
smcginnis | Or at least at "the forum" | 16:27 |
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jungleboyj | Looked like hotels were filling up so ... | 16:27 |
mdovgal | I have one little question | 16:27 |
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Swanson | ? | 16:28 |
mdovgal | there is one blueprint about cascade backup delete https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cinder/+spec/cascade-delete-backup | 16:28 |
mdovgal | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cinder/+spec/cascade-delete-backup | 16:29 |
mdovgal | Do somebody have any problems with it implementation in future? | 16:29 |
e0ne | it should be a useful feature for incremental backups | 16:29 |
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xyang2 | might be nice to have this | 16:29 |
smcginnis | mdovgal: Just approved it. | 16:30 |
cuhler | Another question: We're working on CI for Veritas os-brick connector, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/442754. Is CI needed before merge? | 16:30 |
cuhler | Nova team said they want connector merged before starting to review the Veritas Nova volume driver that depends on it (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/443951) | 16:30 |
mdovgal | smcginnis, nice. thank you | 16:30 |
smcginnis | mdovgal: No problem. | 16:30 |
diablo_rojo | cuhler, its not required no, but its strongly advised | 16:30 |
smcginnis | cuhler: Our policy has been if you have a specific connector in os-brick then it is strongly advised to have CI coverage. | 16:30 |
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smcginnis | cuhler: I mainly wanted some record on there as to the plans for that, and I see it was added. | 16:31 |
smcginnis | cuhler: I don't think we need to block the review waiting on that. | 16:31 |
cuhler | Okay. Can the CI be driven by the unmerged Nova volume driver, or is Nova somehow simulated? | 16:31 |
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smcginnis | cuhler: Yeah, I think it would have to be a cherry pick of your driver into nova or something. | 16:32 |
smcginnis | cuhler: Until that merges in Nova at least. | 16:32 |
cuhler | ok, that clarifies things. Thx | 16:32 |
cuhler | done | 16:32 |
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smcginnis | Oh, next PTG announced in case anyone missed that. | 16:33 |
smcginnis | Denver the week of Sept 11. | 16:34 |
diablo_rojo | MOAR torchy's tacos! | 16:34 |
smcginnis | :) | 16:34 |
Swanson | Denver? Spit. | 16:34 |
jungleboyj | :-) I had that thought too. | 16:34 |
smcginnis | Bugsmash even taking place the week after the summit. | 16:34 |
smcginnis | I like Denver! | 16:34 |
Swanson | You would. | 16:35 |
jungleboyj | smcginnis: ++ | 16:35 |
smcginnis | I've heard their brownies are fantastic. | 16:35 |
xyang2 | cool! no international travel | 16:35 |
smcginnis | :D | 16:35 |
mdovgal | Not NBA time on the 11 of Sept :( | 16:35 |
diablo_rojo | It was cheaper than our other option and ATL both so hopefully that helps people get there. | 16:35 |
jungleboyj | Sounds like the PTG after that will international though. | 16:35 |
smcginnis | +1 | 16:35 |
xyang2 | jungleboyj: is it? | 16:35 |
smcginnis | Actually glad to see the PTG alternate since we were never able to get that going with the midcycle. | 16:35 |
jungleboyj | smcginnis: True. | 16:36 |
jungleboyj | xyang2: Yeah, I think they were talking Europe. | 16:36 |
jungleboyj | diablo_rojo: Probably knows more. :-) | 16:36 |
xyang2 | jungleboyj: well, too early to worry about that now:) | 16:36 |
smcginnis | :) | 16:37 |
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smcginnis | Anything else today? | 16:37 |
diablo_rojo | jungleboyj, I know of places we are looking at but we are FAR from a decision so I don't know all that much more :) | 16:37 |
jungleboyj | diablo_rojo: Cool. | 16:37 |
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smcginnis | diablo_rojo: Then next two summits are Sydney and Vancouver, right. | 16:37 |
diablo_rojo | smcginnis, yep :) | 16:38 |
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smcginnis | OK, sounds like we are pretty much done here. Thanks everyone. | 16:38 |
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smcginnis | Please do reviews! :) | 16:38 |
Swanson | United tickets should be cheap and plentiful. Buy your airfare now. | 16:38 |
smcginnis | LOL | 16:38 |
e0ne | :) | 16:38 |
viks | :D | 16:39 |
jungleboyj | Bwah ha ha | 16:39 |
xyang2 | Swanson: Never United!:) | 16:39 |
smcginnis | Swanson: At this rate you can just buy the whole plane. | 16:39 |
viks | they are not that cheap still | 16:39 |
jungleboyj | smcginnis: That would be awesome! | 16:39 |
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smcginnis | #endmeeting | 16:39 |
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 16:39 | |
openstack | Meeting ended Wed Apr 12 16:39:39 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:39 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2017/cinder.2017-04-12-16.00.html | 16:39 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2017/cinder.2017-04-12-16.00.txt | 16:39 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2017/cinder.2017-04-12-16.00.log.html | 16:39 |
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bh526r_ | #startmeeting gluon | 18:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Apr 12 18:00:11 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bh526r_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'gluon' | 18:00 |
bh526r_ | #topic Roll Call | 18:00 |
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bh526r_ | #info Bin Hu | 18:00 |
krenczewski | #info Kamil Renczewski | 18:01 |
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bh526r_ | Hi Kamil | 18:01 |
jinli | Hi everyone | 18:01 |
georgk | #info Georg Kunz | 18:01 |
krenczewski | Hi Bin | 18:01 |
jinli | #info JinLi | 18:01 |
bh526r_ | Hi Georg and Jin | 18:01 |
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bh526r_ | #topic Admin Update | 18:02 |
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bh526r_ | #info Our submission to Forum: | 18:02 |
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georgk | hi all | 18:02 |
bh526r_ | #link http://forumtopics.openstack.org/cfp/details/47 | 18:02 |
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bh526r_ | #info was rejected | 18:02 |
bh526r_ | #info details of reason can be found in above link | 18:03 |
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bh526r_ | #topic Status Update of PoC in OpenStack Summit | 18:03 |
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bh526r_ | #info 1. PoC Scenario Description was agreed a few weeks ago, and it stays the same | 18:04 |
bh526r_ | #info But we need a documented demo script. Bin will draft it for everyone to review | 18:05 |
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bh526r_ | #action Bin draft demo script for PoC in OpenStack Summit | 18:05 |
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bh526r_ | #info 2. Lab in Germany - running stably | 18:05 |
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bh526r_ | georgk, do you want to add something more? | 18:06 |
georgk | yes, the Nova issues have been resolved | 18:06 |
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bh526r_ | #info Nova issue was resolved, and VM can be booted | 18:07 |
georgk | we had problems due to re-installing some OpenStack packages with pip while the services were running | 18:07 |
georgk | restarting the services solved the issue | 18:07 |
bh526r_ | #info There were problems due to re-installing some OpenStack packages with pip while the services were running | 18:07 |
bh526r_ | #info restarting the services solved the issue | 18:07 |
bh526r_ | The dependency is always a headache | 18:08 |
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bh526r_ | #info 3. Contrail Status | 18:08 |
krenczewski | I was able to run Contrail | 18:09 |
bh526r_ | #info Kamil was able to run Contrail | 18:09 |
krenczewski | and authenticate with keystone on 192.168.0.6 node | 18:10 |
bh526r_ | #info and authenticate with keystone on 192.168.0.6 node | 18:10 |
bh526r_ | So can Mechanism Driver work with Contrail now? | 18:10 |
krenczewski | problem was that one of interfaces was up without IP affress and zookeeper couldn't handle this | 18:10 |
krenczewski | Still need to resolve issue with Service Monitor service | 18:11 |
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bh526r_ | I see | 18:11 |
krenczewski | then I'll deploy mechanism driver | 18:11 |
bh526r_ | #info Problem was that one of interfaces was up without IP affress and zookeeper couldn't handle this | 18:11 |
bh526r_ | #info So still need to resolve issue with Service Monitor service | 18:12 |
bh526r_ | #info Then Kamil will deploy Mechanism Driver | 18:12 |
bh526r_ | Good progress, Kamil | 18:12 |
krenczewski | I don't want to do this without Contrail fully working because any issues woud be impossible to resolve | 18:12 |
bh526r_ | That's right. So make sure Contrail fully working first. | 18:12 |
bh526r_ | Then if there is any issue later, we can isolate the issue more easily | 18:13 |
bh526r_ | Keep up your good work, Kamil. Thank you | 18:13 |
krenczewski | Thank you | 18:14 |
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bh526r_ | #info 4. L3VPN API - Parameter List for BGP Peering | 18:14 |
bh526r_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/450917/ | 18:14 |
bh526r_ | #info Georg will update the patch based on Jin's comments | 18:15 |
bh526r_ | #info 5. SFC YAML and API | 18:15 |
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bh526r_ | #info Georg is completing the draft, and under internal review | 18:15 |
bh526r_ | #info Georg will submit this patch in a few days | 18:16 |
bh526r_ | #info 6. P2P YAML and API | 18:16 |
bh526r_ | #info Robert is working on it, and will submit the patch in a few days | 18:16 |
bh526r_ | #info 7. ELAN YAML and API | 18:17 |
bh526r_ | #info Eric has provided Ian with the ELAN YANG Model | 18:17 |
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bh526r_ | #info Bin will follow up with Ian on this subject | 18:17 |
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bh526r_ | #action Bin follows up with Ian on ELAN YAML and API | 18:18 |
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bh526r_ | #info 8. Misc | 18:18 |
bh526r_ | #info There is a new patch to support all API YAML Models by default | 18:19 |
bh526r_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/456283/ | 18:19 |
bh526r_ | #info Current code supports net-l3vpn as default. If we add new YAML model, we need to change proton.conf. If someone forgets to change proton.conf, even if new model is added, Proton Server will still only pick up net-l3vpn | 18:20 |
bh526r_ | #info In order to improve usability and make adding new YAML model and API easier, this patch will support all models by default. Whenever a model is added, Proton Server will pick it up without having to change proton.conf | 18:22 |
bh526r_ | #info All are encouraged to review and comment the code | 18:22 |
bh526r_ | #info This will also make demo/PoC easier - only need to add/remove model, rebuild and restart proton-server without changing proton.conf | 18:23 |
bh526r_ | any other thing / update for PoC? | 18:23 |
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bh526r_ | #topic Pike Release and Patches | 18:24 |
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bh526r_ | #info 1. New "Network Type" in Neutron | 18:24 |
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bh526r_ | #info Bin had conversation with Sukhdev yesterday. The idea that Sukhdev proposes will still lead to previous 2 RFEs, i.e. (1) optional Network and Subnet, and (2) new network characteristics attribute | 18:26 |
bh526r_ | #info Sukhdev will document it, for further review and discussion. But previous 2 RFEs are needed based on conversation | 18:27 |
bh526r_ | #info 2. Approved patches | 18:27 |
bh526r_ | #info First is Remove unused import statements | 18:28 |
bh526r_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/446776/ | 18:28 |
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bh526r_ | #info It was approved and merged on March 22, and cherrypicked to stable/ocata (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/448775/) | 18:29 |
bh526r_ | #info Second is Fixing DB test after sqlite_db config option was removed | 18:29 |
bh526r_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/451989/ | 18:29 |
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bh526r_ | #info It was approved and merged on March 31, and cherrypicked to stable/ocata (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/452268/) | 18:30 |
bh526r_ | #info Third is Fixing broken import statement | 18:30 |
bh526r_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/451722/ | 18:30 |
bh526r_ | #info It was approved and merged on March 31, and cherrypicked to stable/ocata (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/452357/) | 18:31 |
bh526r_ | #info Fourth is Remove translation of log messages from gluon | 18:31 |
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bh526r_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/453970/ | 18:31 |
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bh526r_ | #info It was approved and merged on April 6, and cherrypicked to stable/ocata (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/454286/) | 18:32 |
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bh526r_ | #info Fifth is Refined installation instructions | 18:34 |
bh526r_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/452980/ | 18:34 |
bh526r_ | #info It was approved and merged on April 6, and cherrypicked to stable/ocata (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/454508/) | 18:35 |
bh526r_ | #info Sixth is Base URI return values | 18:35 |
bh526r_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/453929/ | 18:36 |
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bh526r_ | #info It was approved and merged this morning (April 12), and cherrypicked to stable/ocata (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/456234/) | 18:36 |
bh526r_ | #info 2. Outstanding Patches | 18:36 |
bh526r_ | #info There are a few outstanding patches. | 18:37 |
bh526r_ | #info Two were mentioned when we discussed PoC Status. Please review and comment | 18:37 |
bh526r_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/450917/ | 18:38 |
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bh526r_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/456283/ | 18:38 |
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bh526r_ | #info Others include | 18:38 |
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bh526r_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/453519/ | 18:39 |
bh526r_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/430446/ | 18:39 |
bh526r_ | #info https://review.openstack.org/#/c/404069/ | 18:39 |
bh526r_ | #info There are review comments and -1, so authors are expected to resolve the comments and update with new patches | 18:40 |
bh526r_ | #topic AOB | 18:40 |
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bh526r_ | anything else you want to discuss? | 18:40 |
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georgk | FYI: just pushed an update for the L3VPN model extension | 18:41 |
bh526r_ | Great, and thank you Georg. | 18:41 |
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bh526r_ | I see Jin +1 | 18:42 |
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bh526r_ | I suggest we approve it | 18:42 |
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bh526r_ | #info Georg updated the patch of Extending L3VPN model to configure BGP peerings. | 18:44 |
bh526r_ | #info Group agreed to approve it, and Bin takes the action | 18:44 |
bh526r_ | Anything else? | 18:45 |
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bh526r_ | If nothing else, we can adjourn the meeting and give back everyone 15 minutes | 18:45 |
bh526r_ | #info Meeting adjourned | 18:45 |
bh526r_ | thank you everyone, and bye all | 18:46 |
bh526r_ | #endmeeting | 18:46 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Wed Apr 12 18:46:19 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:46 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/gluon/2017/gluon.2017-04-12-18.00.html | 18:46 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/gluon/2017/gluon.2017-04-12-18.00.txt | 18:46 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/gluon/2017/gluon.2017-04-12-18.00.log.html | 18:46 |
krenczewski | Thanks, bye | 18:46 |
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SotK | time for storyboard! | 19:00 |
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SotK | #startmeeting storyboard | 19:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Apr 12 19:00:16 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SotK. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'storyboard' | 19:00 |
zara_the_lemur__ | :D | 19:00 |
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SotK | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/StoryBoard#Agenda_for_next_meeting Agenda | 19:00 |
SotK | I actually updated the agenda this week | 19:00 |
zara_the_lemur__ | nice! | 19:00 |
SotK | #topic Announcements | 19:00 |
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SotK | still nothing here | 19:00 |
SotK | #topic Urgent Items | 19:01 |
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SotK | nor here | 19:01 |
SotK | #topic In Progress Work | 19:01 |
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SotK | lets talk about migration testing first | 19:01 |
diablo_rojo | I meant to update my patch by this meeting, but I have gotten pulled into other things. It's my priority by the end of the week though. | 19:01 |
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diablo_rojo | Sounds good | 19:01 |
SotK | np :) | 19:02 |
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SotK | I only got round to testing Kuryr, but I'm happy to report that it seems to have worked fine | 19:02 |
zara_the_lemur__ | I'm running a migration right now | 19:02 |
zara_the_lemur__ | though not against prod db | 19:02 |
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zara_the_lemur__ | I'll probably do a bunch of projects in a big lump this evening | 19:02 |
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diablo_rojo | SotK, I'll go chat to Kuryr and see if they are interested | 19:03 |
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* SotK intends to test Congress after this meeting | 19:04 | |
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diablo_rojo | Sweet :) | 19:04 |
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SotK | in other news, my board optimisation patches are waiting for further review (thanks for the +1 diablo_rojo) | 19:06 |
SotK | and I also sent a bunch of patches to make search less deceitful with its URLs | 19:06 |
diablo_rojo | SotK, no problem :) | 19:06 |
zara_the_lemur__ | ah, cool | 19:06 |
diablo_rojo | Thanks :) | 19:06 |
SotK | and also to make it properly supported to filter stories by multiple tags at once | 19:07 |
diablo_rojo | I'm trying to stay on top of reviews to keep things moving forward. | 19:07 |
zara_the_lemur__ | I got round to reviewing some of the project/project group name min/max length patches | 19:07 |
diablo_rojo | That part is awesome | 19:07 |
zara_the_lemur__ | which are awaiting further +2s | 19:07 |
SotK | so the zuulv3 + low-hanging-fruit use case that came up a while back looks less hacky now :D | 19:07 |
SotK | zara_the_lemur__: I'll review them today too | 19:07 |
diablo_rojo | Less hacky is good. | 19:08 |
zara_the_lemur__ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/445965/ | 19:08 |
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zara_the_lemur__ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/452637/ | 19:08 |
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zara_the_lemur__ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/452641/ | 19:09 |
zara_the_lemur__ | (and there's one for the webclient to correspond to that one, but I haven't got round to it yet. I try to do 'oldest first' when there's a review backlog.) | 19:10 |
* zara_the_lemur__ will try to review some of the boards patches etc tonight | 19:11 | |
SotK | thanks :) | 19:11 |
zara_the_lemur__ | I have sent a single solitary patch | 19:11 |
zara_the_lemur__ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/455788/ | 19:12 |
zara_the_lemur__ | I noticed that while setting up my new sb instance for testing migrations... | 19:12 |
zara_the_lemur__ | we default to installing node.js 0.10.29 for the webclient | 19:12 |
zara_the_lemur__ | released June 2014 | 19:13 |
SotK | heh, that is rather old | 19:13 |
zara_the_lemur__ | :) | 19:13 |
zara_the_lemur__ | that patch updates it to the newest LTS | 19:13 |
zara_the_lemur__ | I didn't notice it breaking anything | 19:13 |
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SotK | \o/ | 19:14 |
SotK | I will try to get to testing it in the near future | 19:15 |
SotK | likely not today though | 19:15 |
diablo_rojo | Not breaking things is always the best way to go :) | 19:15 |
zara_the_lemur__ | thanks | 19:15 |
zara_the_lemur__ | yeah, it's survived this far; I don't think it's urgent | 19:15 |
zara_the_lemur__ | just general maintenance stuff | 19:16 |
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diablo_rojo | I will take a look. | 19:16 |
diablo_rojo | Should I make an etherpad of projects and say which ones have been tested and who is planning on testing what? | 19:17 |
zara_the_lemur__ | it's easier if you make a story | 19:17 |
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zara_the_lemur__ | (that's easier for me to find again later etc, at least) | 19:18 |
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diablo_rojo | A story for each project? | 19:19 |
diablo_rojo | THats a lot of stories | 19:19 |
* SotK thinks one story, with "test $project" tasks | 19:19 | |
* zara_the_lemur__ was thinking a story with a task per project | 19:19 | |
zara_the_lemur__ | snap | 19:19 |
diablo_rojo | Got it. Can do | 19:20 |
zara_the_lemur__ | thanks :) | 19:21 |
SotK | indeed, thanks diablo_rojo | 19:21 |
SotK | is there anything else in progress? | 19:21 |
SotK | #topic Open Discussion | 19:22 |
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diablo_rojo | I changed this to be not just Monasca- I will put them here: https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2000876 | 19:22 |
zara_the_lemur__ | thanks! | 19:22 |
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zara_the_lemur__ | I don't thiiiiink I have anything to discuss | 19:24 |
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diablo_rojo | I dont think I have anything either. | 19:27 |
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SotK | #endmeeting | 19:30 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Wed Apr 12 19:30:29 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:30 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/2017/storyboard.2017-04-12-19.00.html | 19:30 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/2017/storyboard.2017-04-12-19.00.txt | 19:30 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/2017/storyboard.2017-04-12-19.00.log.html | 19:30 |
SotK | thanks folks :) | 19:30 |
zara_the_lemur__ | thanks :) | 19:31 |
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ekhugen | #startmeeting wos_mentoring | 20:01 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Apr 12 20:01:33 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ekhugen. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:01 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:01 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'wos_mentoring' | 20:01 |
ekhugen | Hi, who's here for women of openstack mentoring? | 20:01 |
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NicoleH | Hi, Emily! I'm here! | 20:04 |
ekhugen | Hi Nicole! | 20:05 |
ekhugen | how ar eyou? | 20:05 |
ekhugen | are you* | 20:05 |
NicoleH | Doing ok. How are you?! | 20:06 |
ekhugen | okay, this meeting came up really quickly! | 20:06 |
ekhugen | it does not seem like 4pm already! | 20:06 |
NicoleH | it did, didn't it? | 20:06 |
NicoleH | i just received the final images of the baseball caps. | 20:07 |
diablo_rojo | Hello :) | 20:07 |
NicoleH | Hi there, diablo_rojo! | 20:07 |
ekhugen | oh awesome Nicole | 20:08 |
ekhugen | Hi Kendall! | 20:08 |
diablo_rojo | NicoleH, can we see? | 20:08 |
NicoleH | yep -- i'll send right now | 20:09 |
diablo_rojo | I can't believe the summit is only in like three weeks. | 20:10 |
ekhugen | I know, it's way too quick! | 20:11 |
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diablo_rojo | And I have dockercon next week so I have like two weeks.. | 20:12 |
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NicoleH | just sent the images | 20:12 |
* diablo_rojo looks | 20:12 | |
ekhugen | oh and diablo_rojo, I can't believe I'm just noticing this, but do we have only 1 hour for the speed mentoring lunch? | 20:12 |
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diablo_rojo | Looks like | 20:13 |
diablo_rojo | How long did we have before? | 20:13 |
ekhugen | I think we did 1 hour 15 minutes before | 20:13 |
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ekhugen | I'm just thinking maybe we should cut each round of speed mentoring down to 10 minutes | 20:14 |
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diablo_rojo | ekhugen, Might be a good idea. | 20:14 |
ekhugen | oh those are awesome NicoleH! | 20:15 |
diablo_rojo | OMG CAN I HAVE ONE | 20:15 |
diablo_rojo | THEY ARE SO AWESOME | 20:15 |
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NicoleH | oh, awesome -- i'm so happy that you guys like them! | 20:17 |
diablo_rojo | NicoleH, they look so good. You did a great job :) | 20:18 |
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NicoleH | oh, cool! well, we've made extras, so that we can each have one! | 20:18 |
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diablo_rojo | ekhugen, +1 | 20:18 |
NicoleH | you guys are so awesome! | 20:19 |
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ekhugen | so it looks like we have 16 mentors signed up in the spreadsheet https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1c_TXXQnITg4VqixppmxZAaJB2QnJOxbso_Kv5Y1C2Us/edit#gid=0 | 20:20 |
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ekhugen | NicoleH are you okay to pull baseball card info from there? or do you want any help extracting it? | 20:21 |
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NicoleH | i can pull it from there | 20:21 |
NicoleH | should we do one final push for mentors? | 20:21 |
diablo_rojo | Let me see if I can get registration numbers real quick | 20:22 |
diablo_rojo | And we can see the proportion | 20:22 |
ekhugen | thanks diablo_rojo | 20:22 |
NicoleH | we had originally targeted 20-25 mentors. | 20:22 |
NicoleH | that'd be great, diablo_rojo! | 20:22 |
NicoleH | also, do we have the survey responses from mentees? | 20:23 |
diablo_rojo | NicoleH, I can get those too probably, when do you want them by? | 20:24 |
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ekhugen | does it make sense to just have them the day or two before the prep call next week? | 20:25 |
NicoleH | we originally planned to have them sifted through by the time of the mentor prep meeting so that we can share them with mentors then, so that mentors can prepare. | 20:25 |
diablo_rojo | Okay I can ask Jimmy to get those right now too then. | 20:25 |
NicoleH | so, if we can get them by next mon/tue, then we can be prepared to share them next wed. | 20:25 |
NicoleH | oh, cool -- that'd be great! | 20:25 |
diablo_rojo | As for mentors we have 20 signed up right now. | 20:25 |
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ekhugen | mentors? or mentees? | 20:26 |
diablo_rojo | if you look at the google sheet its a little behind- the integration broke so I have to do a dump of them | 20:26 |
diablo_rojo | Mentrs | 20:26 |
diablo_rojo | Mentors | 20:26 |
diablo_rojo | I am still waiting on the mentees :) | 20:26 |
ekhugen | ohhh okay, that's even better then! | 20:26 |
diablo_rojo | Ha ha yeah :) | 20:27 |
NicoleH | oh, cool -- 20 is a good number! i'll do final outreach in twitter -- i'll use the images of the baseball caps. look for that sometime today. | 20:28 |
ekhugen | +1 NicoleH | 20:28 |
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diablo_rojo | So....we need to promote the session more. We only have 5 mentees signed up.. | 20:31 |
ekhugen | oh ouch | 20:31 |
ekhugen | yes | 20:31 |
diablo_rojo | Yeah that was what I said. Ouch. | 20:31 |
ekhugen | is there a list of first time attendees that the foundation has? | 20:31 |
ekhugen | I wonder if we could target them specifically | 20:32 |
diablo_rojo | Can we send emails to all those signed up in our normal mentoring program? | 20:32 |
diablo_rojo | I can look into that | 20:32 |
ekhugen | we're not likely to reach them on twitter and they may not even follow the listservs yet | 20:32 |
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diablo_rojo | Could just send something out to the WoO list again and to the regular dev list | 20:33 |
diablo_rojo | Maybe general too | 20:33 |
diablo_rojo | ? | 20:33 |
ekhugen | sure, I can do a similar email like the one I sent for the call for mentors | 20:34 |
NicoleH | ugh, yikes, huh?! | 20:34 |
NicoleH | +1 emily! | 20:34 |
NicoleH | let me know how i can help! | 20:36 |
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ekhugen | thanks, I think I'll copy out my other email and just reword it a bit | 20:37 |
ekhugen | how about the slides for next week? | 20:38 |
ekhugen | I've been making some tweaks as we've been talking | 20:38 |
NicoleH | i've been looking at them too! | 20:40 |
diablo_rojo | I made comments on the two things I saw, and since its lunch time I wont have the keynote conflict so I took that out | 20:40 |
ekhugen | thanks! | 20:41 |
ekhugen | I'm thinking maybe for slide 6, we should leave more time at the beginning, for people to grab lunch? | 20:42 |
ekhugen | do 15 mins at the beginning and 10 mins at the end? | 20:42 |
NicoleH | sounds good | 20:42 |
diablo_rojo | +1 | 20:43 |
NicoleH | at some point, we'll need to finalize the team of helpers | 20:43 |
diablo_rojo | Do that after the mentor prep meeting? | 20:44 |
NicoleH | yep, sounds good! | 20:44 |
ekhugen | I think we could do that at a monday WOS meeting maybe? | 20:44 |
ekhugen | since that's where they came from? | 20:45 |
NicoleH | diablo_rojo, did you say there are currently 20 mentors who signed up? | 20:45 |
NicoleH | i only see 16 in the spreadsheet | 20:45 |
ekhugen | I think she said the links between the survey and spreadsheet broke | 20:46 |
NicoleH | i'm going to start extracting the info from the spreadsheet this week & getting it over to our designer | 20:46 |
NicoleH | oh, i see! | 20:46 |
diablo_rojo | Yeah the link broke, I will update the spreadsheet with the formstack info | 20:48 |
NicoleH | awesome, thanks! i'll start pulling the info & creating the cards. | 20:49 |
ekhugen | so to recap todos: Emily needs to send out call for mentees and make sure all mentors and volunteers are invited to the meeting, we need to verify the list of volunteers, Kendall is going to get the spreadsheet updated and send out the mentee questions, Nicole is going to finalize the awesome swag and table cards | 20:49 |
ekhugen | swag = caps and cards | 20:49 |
diablo_rojo | Sounds right to me | 20:49 |
NicoleH | yep! | 20:49 |
NicoleH | you guys rock! | 20:49 |
ekhugen | anything we're missing? | 20:50 |
ekhugen | you've done so much work on the caps and cards, Nicole, we're just trying to keep up! | 20:50 |
NicoleH | i think this is going to be a great session! let me know how i can help corral more mentees! | 20:51 |
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ekhugen | if you have any more ideas to get more mentees, we should share them | 20:51 |
NicoleH | would be so nice to have a great showing among our mentees. then take a group pic of the mentors & mentees together! | 20:51 |
ekhugen | but I think maybe people will show up last minute, since it's lunch, they can wander in | 20:52 |
ekhugen | +1 on the group pic idea | 20:52 |
NicoleH | i think you guys had some great ideas for emailing mailing lists ... | 20:53 |
diablo_rojo | Okay its updated | 20:53 |
NicoleH | if the foundation can help spread the word, that'd be fantastic! | 20:53 |
diablo_rojo | I will see what we can do :) | 20:53 |
ekhugen | thanks diablo_rojo | 20:54 |
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NicoleH | cool! | 20:54 |
NicoleH | just had a thought ... | 20:54 |
NicoleH | i haven't been able to join the recent WoS meetings ... will there be any WoS greeters at registration this time around, like there was in barcelona? | 20:55 |
ekhugen | yes, I think there will be | 20:55 |
diablo_rojo | NicoleH, yeah I think they were talking about that | 20:55 |
NicoleH | if so, perhaps we can spread the word through the greeters? either via word of mouth, or we could print fun little cards that the greeters can hand out? | 20:56 |
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diablo_rojo | We should do a plug in one of their meetings for sure | 20:57 |
NicoleH | +1 | 20:57 |
ekhugen | they have been listing us in their meetings | 20:57 |
ekhugen | I'm not sure if they're doing a sheet to hand out this time or not | 20:57 |
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ekhugen | but I think there's a meeting on Monday, we can ask then | 20:58 |
NicoleH | cool! | 20:58 |
knangia | hi , sorry for being so late | 20:59 |
ekhugen | okay, well we're at the top of the hour, if anyone thinks of anything else, send email | 20:59 |
knangia | had a meeting clash | 20:59 |
ekhugen | thanks everyone! | 20:59 |
ekhugen | np knangia, I'll post the logs to the etherpad | 20:59 |
NicoleH | thanks! | 20:59 |
ekhugen | #endmeeting | 20:59 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Wed Apr 12 20:59:40 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:59 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/wos_mentoring/2017/wos_mentoring.2017-04-12-20.01.html | 20:59 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/wos_mentoring/2017/wos_mentoring.2017-04-12-20.01.txt | 20:59 |
knangia | thanks ekhugen | 20:59 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/wos_mentoring/2017/wos_mentoring.2017-04-12-20.01.log.html | 20:59 |
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