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| ekcs | time for congress meeting. thinrichs aimeeu masahito ramineni | 00:00 |
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| ekcs | #startmeeting congressteammeeting | 00:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Mar 2 00:01:05 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ekcs. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 00:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 00:01 |
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| aimeeu | Hello! | 00:01 |
| ekcs | Hi all! Hope everyone had a nice trip back from ATL. | 00:01 |
| ekcs | hello aimeeu | 00:01 |
| thinrichs | Hi all | 00:01 |
| masahito | hi | 00:02 |
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| ekcs | hi thinrichs masahito | 00:02 |
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| ekcs | Here are the topics I have for today. Please feel free to add topics you have in mind. https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/congress-meeting-topics | 00:02 |
| ekcs | Going forward I’ll try to have the topics ready a day ahead so people have time to add topics ahead of time and also to think about them. | 00:03 |
| ekcs | i’ll wait a couple minutes for people to look through and maybe add topics. But also feel free to add as we go. | 00:04 |
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| ekcs | ok let’s get started then =) | 00:08 |
| ekcs | #topic PTG very brief recap | 00:08 |
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| ekcs | We had a very productive first PTG. We took lessons from ocata cycle, heard very useful feedback from bryan_att and aimeeu and others, worked through technical issues, and came away with a great list of concrete goals and tasks we'd like to pursue. It was very nice to have cgoncalves join us for the discussions. | 00:08 |
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| ekcs | I'll be sending out individual emails to ask for more feedback and suggestions on the PTG, but feel free to share your thoughts here too =) | 00:08 |
| aimeeu | +1 very productive | 00:09 |
| bryan_att | I agree. A number of specific actions that we will followup on. | 00:09 |
| thinrichs | +1 | 00:09 |
| ekcs | awesome. speaking of specific actions, let’s move on to the next topic then. | 00:11 |
| ekcs | #topic pike goals | 00:11 |
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| ekcs | I'm still organizing the goals, but here are some themes from my perspective. Please feel free to share your thoughts and perspectives! | 00:11 |
| ekcs | 1. we have a bunch of testing improvements we want to make. upstreaming opnfv tests, better driver testing in tempest, systematic HA tests, periodic stable tests, upgrade tests, etc. | 00:11 |
| ekcs | 2. We have several small-medium features we'd like to add in response to requirements and needs of the community. generic datasource driver, non-blocking action execution, oslo notification of action execution, dashboard separation, etc. | 00:11 |
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| ekcs | 3. Probably the most public "headline" features we are looking to do are policy library and policy monitoring pane. | 00:14 |
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| ekcs | Policy library involves many pieces including the actual policies, help and descriptions, templating the policies, UI for using the policies, etc. Significant design work is still needed as we go to make it all work together in a compelling package. | 00:14 |
| ekcs | 4. specific action items in community engagement | 00:16 |
| ekcs | Any thoughts/reactions/corrections/additions to my characterization here? | 00:17 |
| ekcs | I’m still in the process of adding tasks to launchpad and should be done before the week is over. | 00:17 |
| bryan_att | I'll be adding some patches to the docs etc as noted | 00:18 |
| ekcs | yups several docs improvements discussed. especially around installation and requirements. | 00:19 |
| masahito | ekcs: tasks about improving project navigator are in #4? | 00:19 |
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| ekcs | masahito: I guess so. partly 1 and partly 4. | 00:20 |
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| ekcs | ok then let’s move on =) | 00:23 |
| ekcs | #topic policy library design | 00:23 |
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| ekcs | lots of complex issues here we’re not going to figure out today. but in reviewing the goals I did notice something that could be helpful to spend a little bit of time on. | 00:24 |
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| ekcs | one of the tasks we have listed is the function to enable and disable policies. the rationale if I recall, is that | 00:25 |
| ekcs | 1. it would support modular policy management based on type of deployment (bryan_att talked about this) | 00:26 |
| ekcs | 2. it would support enabling and disabling policies in our (to be constructed) policy library. | 00:26 |
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| ekcs | when I thought more about it, I wondered if we really want to make this kind of API/data model change at this point. in terms of 1, it seems to be a medium term goal rather than an immediate goal. | 00:28 |
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| bryan_att | I can agree with it being medium-term, an optimization | 00:28 |
| ekcs | in terms of 2, it’s not clear that policies in our policy library are actual policies, more likely they are templates that need parameters to become actual policies. so it seems to call for a different kind of mechanism than the enabling and disabling of policies. | 00:29 |
| thinrichs | While eventually I expect the policy library to be an entirely new kind of thing, it might be a good starting point to have them be regular policies. | 00:31 |
| thinrichs | Then people can customize them by changing the individual rules. | 00:31 |
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| thinrichs | To really know the answer, I think we want to assemble a collection of policies that we think are valuable out of the box, and then look at whether modifying those policies is a reasonable first step. | 00:31 |
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| thinrichs | Or whether we think we need to invent policy-templates or the like before users will see any value. | 00:32 |
| bryan_att | I agree, e.g. a yaml file in the repo that has a policy name and string that is the policy rule | 00:32 |
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| bryan_att | if we find any that must have parameters we can cross that bridge | 00:32 |
| bryan_att | but some should be useful and generic | 00:32 |
| ekcs | makes sense. | 00:33 |
| thinrichs | bryan_att: you're thinking about enabling/disabling policies via config to Congress? | 00:33 |
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| bryan_att | not sure, have to think thru it | 00:33 |
| thinrichs | I was imagining enabling/disabling policies via the API, but config would be even quicker to get up and running. | 00:33 |
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| bryan_att | config would be quicker for sure | 00:33 |
| bryan_att | via API we would need to query available policies and enable them by name | 00:34 |
| bryan_att | so a new API function | 00:34 |
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| bryan_att | or something like that | 00:34 |
| masahito | I'm not sure using config is quicker in the case of multi PE deployment | 00:35 |
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| bryan_att | and esp if it's an install-time thing only it might not be flexible enough | 00:35 |
| thinrichs | bryan_att: I like the idea of having a library as a separate database table and then an API that pulls policies out of that table and creates them in today's API. | 00:36 |
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| bryan_att | yes, that would work too - reuse as much as possible of the existing API unchanged | 00:36 |
| ekcs | hmm ok. so it sounds like we’re not sure at this point. probably the thing to do is get further along in policy library authoring then deciding at that point how to realize things? | 00:38 |
| thinrichs | ekcs: +1 | 00:39 |
| thinrichs | We've got several good ideas here. | 00:39 |
| ekcs | helpful discussion though to get the issues and ideas out. | 00:39 |
| ekcs | yup thinrichs | 00:39 |
| bryan_att | what's the next step then, a design doc for this? | 00:39 |
| ekcs | I think a rough draft kind of design doc could make sense. | 00:41 |
| ekcs | as a good place to put the general concepts down and discuss further as we develop the actual policies. | 00:41 |
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| bryan_att | as a google doc or a blueprint? | 00:42 |
| ekcs | for facilitating discussion, google doc or spec on gerrit would be good. blueprint doesn’t work as well. | 00:43 |
| thinrichs | I'd also say we should put together a handful of policies that we'd want to include in the library. | 00:44 |
| bryan_att | ok, either works for me. if someone wants to start one I can comment and help define it. | 00:44 |
| ekcs | great. yea I agree with thinrichs that’s the first step. | 00:44 |
| ekcs | ok let’s move on then if we’re done with this topic. | 00:44 |
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| ekcs | ramineni is not here so let’s skip the angular.js topic. we didn’t get to that at the PTG and I figure we’d at least understand the rationale behind that thought. | 00:46 |
| ekcs | #topic status updates and open discussion | 00:46 |
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| ekcs | feel free to give an update if you like, and/or discuss any other topic on your mind =) | 00:47 |
| ekcs | I’ve pretty much been reviewing and organizing the notes & tasks from the PTG and checking in on gerrit. In the process of launchpadding the tasks. and also releasing a newton update. | 00:48 |
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| thinrichs | Nothing from me. Still recovering from the PTG. | 00:50 |
| aimeeu | I've been very busy with the upcoming OPNFV Danube release. Once that's out the door, I'll be able to focus on Congress a bit more. | 00:51 |
| ekcs | good stuff. | 00:51 |
| masahito | nothing from my side. | 00:51 |
| ekcs | I do have another topic I’ll bring up since there is time. I thought about antlr3 removal some more. Eventually we have to do it, but it’s not needed in python2. | 00:51 |
| ekcs | reading the tea leafs a little bit, it doesn’t seem to me like openstack will officially and completely support python3 within the next two cycles. | 00:52 |
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| ekcs | so maybe it makes more sense to de-prioritize the antlr3 removal and focus my/our attention on things congress needs now. | 00:53 |
| ekcs | the trade-off is if we wait too long, it’ll be a rush job at some point and we’ll have a pretty terrible first official python3 release. | 00:54 |
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| thinrichs | I thought antlr3 worked for python3, and the main problem was the debian packaging | 00:55 |
| thinrichs | and that fact that we can't actually maintain it. | 00:55 |
| ekcs | for clarification, congress will run on python3 (if we include some thirdparty code the way we do now), but we can’t debian-package congress in a way that supports python3. | 00:55 |
| ekcs | yup thinrichs | 00:55 |
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| ekcs | so maybe it’s even less of a concern that I made it to be. if at some point openstack moves officially to python3, the worst thing that can happen is we get left out of the debian package at that point. | 00:57 |
| ekcs | if openstack moves before we are ready to replace antlr3. | 00:57 |
| ekcs | that’s a lot less bad than a terribly buggy release. | 00:58 |
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| ekcs | also this is not new news, but python has extended python2 support to 2020. | 00:59 |
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| ekcs | will continue to release 2.7.x as needed. | 00:59 |
| ekcs | ok well about out of time. | 00:59 |
| ekcs | please ping/email me if you have any thoughst on this issue. | 01:00 |
| ekcs | thanks all and have a great week! | 01:00 |
| thinrichs | Thanks all! | 01:00 |
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| ekcs | #endmeeting | 01:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Mar 2 01:01:11 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 01:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2017/congressteammeeting.2017-03-02-00.01.html | 01:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2017/congressteammeeting.2017-03-02-00.01.txt | 01:01 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2017/congressteammeeting.2017-03-02-00.01.log.html | 01:01 |
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| masahito | bye | 01:03 |
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| ianychoi | Hi, anyone here for I18n meeting? | 13:00 |
| jpich | o/ | 13:00 |
| ianychoi | jpich, hi! | 13:00 |
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| jpich | Hello :) | 13:01 |
| ianychoi | :) | 13:01 |
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| ianychoi | Let's start! | 13:01 |
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| ianychoi | #startmeeting OpenStack I18n Meeting | 13:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Mar 2 13:02:10 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ianychoi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:02 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: OpenStack I18n Meeting)" | 13:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_i18n_meeting' | 13:02 |
| ianychoi | #topic Status: Zanata upgrade | 13:02 |
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| ianychoi | jpich, have you seen the upgraded translation platform: https://translate.openstack.org/ ? | 13:02 |
| jpich | I did! | 13:03 |
| -amotoki- will be here 10 minutes later | 13:03 | |
| ianychoi | jpich, it runs on Xenial with Java 8 & Wildfly 10 (Open JBoss) | 13:03 |
| jpich | What are the major changes to look forward to? | 13:04 |
| ianychoi | jpich, http://docs.zanata.org/en/latest/release-notes/#396 | 13:05 |
| jpich | Thanks! | 13:05 |
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| ianychoi | Actually, there have been lots of changes - it is difficult to tell which are the major but for me I can retrieve the list of contributors in a project & version | 13:05 |
| ianychoi | Bug fixes, better UXs for several menus, and so on.. :) | 13:06 |
| tonotuwo | hi | 13:06 |
| ianychoi | tonotuwo, hello! Are u a translator? | 13:06 |
| jpich | Cool :) | 13:07 |
| tonotuwo | I am Suh | 13:07 |
| ianychoi | tonotuwo, aha Suhartono from Indonesian? | 13:07 |
| ianychoi | #info Zanata has upgraded to 3.9.6. If there is some issue, please tell me or #openstack-infra irc channel | 13:08 |
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| ianychoi | Hmm less people today but fine :) | 13:09 |
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| ianychoi | #topic Pike translation goal & priorities | 13:09 |
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| ianychoi | After the Zanata upgrade today, I have set that Pike translation plan is TBD: https://translate.openstack.org/ | 13:10 |
| ianychoi | jpich, tripleo-ui would be cycle-trailing not cycle-with-intermediary | 13:11 |
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| jpich | ianychoi: Yes, it's corrected now :) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/438932/ | 13:11 |
| ianychoi | Thanks for the correction. Then, for Ocata what would be the best translation period? | 13:12 |
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| amotoki | hi | 13:13 |
| ianychoi | amotoki, hi! | 13:13 |
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| jpich | Feature and string freezes will be 2 weeks after the usual deadlines... * looking at https://releases.openstack.org/pike/schedule.html * | 13:13 |
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| jpich | Maybe between R-3 and R+1/2? | 13:14 |
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| jpich | I'm not sure how that's usually handled for cycle-with-milestones, do translators usually way for the soft freeze before getting started? | 13:14 |
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| zzxwill | Hi ianychoi, eumel8. | 13:15 |
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| ianychoi | jpich, let's differentiate soft & hard stringfreezes and cycle-trailing. If tripleo-ui makes a stable branch around hard stringfreeze, then it would be great to consider the translation with other projects. If not, we might need to consider in different period maybe | 13:16 |
| ianychoi | zzxwill, hi! | 13:16 |
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| amotoki | jpich: ianychoi: IMHO each project has some kind of feature freeze at some time and we would have less string changes after that. | 13:17 |
| jftalta | Hi all. Sorry for the delay | 13:18 |
| ianychoi | jpich, for example, "Mar 06 - Mar 10" is Ocata cycle-trailing Deadline, then when would be the final deadline for translators to translate tripleo-ui? | 13:18 |
| ianychoi | jftalta, hello! | 13:18 |
| jpich | ianychoi: Hard string freeze is more like to be around R-1 for us. I think we prefer to wait until the RC (R-0) to cut the stable branch though | 13:18 |
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| ianychoi | jpich, then, the final deadline for translation input for tripleo-ui would be R+0? | 13:19 |
| jpich | ianychoi: Because Ocata is our first i18n release and we found so many i18n bugs (missing strings) we've been very bad about string changes this cycle :( I'm not sure it's a good example | 13:19 |
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| tonotuwo | sorry my nickmane is tonotuwo instead of suh | 13:19 |
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| jpich | ianychoi: Oh, no I think up to R+1 at least would be ok for translations, we can totally have an extra RC for the translations | 13:20 |
| ianychoi | jpich, sorry for that. I now just want to estimate when would be the best deadline for translation final input for tripleo-ui in Pike cycle | 13:20 |
| amotoki | one idea is that tripleo project declares when you would like to release ocata. | 13:20 |
| jpich | amotoki: The cycle-trailing deadline for Ocata is next week and we will release then | 13:21 |
| amotoki | from our past experience, it works to set the deadline to several days before the release | 13:21 |
| amotoki | most works arounds the release are now automated | 13:21 |
| ianychoi | amotoki, I agree. jpich for Pike cycle, then I think the translation period for tripleo-ui would be: from the time when tripleo-ui have stable/pike branch for the first time to around R+1 (the final deadline for translation input - triplo-ui team will share) | 13:22 |
| ianychoi | jpich, it means.. there would be no soft stringfreeze on tripleo-ui, would it be fine? I think tripleo-ui has less strings than horizon so IMO it would be fine | 13:22 |
| jpich | amotoki: I think there was/is too much string churn in Ocata because of the i18n bugs so giving a deadline of Monday/Tuesday (2-3 days before the release) is unfair :) I think most of the translations for Ocata will be done during/for the first stable point release | 13:22 |
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| jpich | ianychoi: That seems ok to me, that way the developers only need to learn about one new deadline at a time :) I will keep you informed. | 13:23 |
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| amotoki | jpich: I agree. this was what we have in horizon several releases ago | 13:23 |
| jpich | Indeed. tripleo-ui is still a baby-i18n project for now!! Still learning | 13:24 |
| amotoki | s/have/had/ | 13:24 |
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| ianychoi | jftalta, zzxwill: we are discussing now Pike translation priorities | 13:24 |
| ianychoi | tonotuwo ^ | 13:24 |
| jftalta | ok | 13:24 |
| tonotuwo | ok | 13:24 |
| ianychoi | Any other additional interests on a specific project? | 13:24 |
| ianychoi | Or priority change would be needed? | 13:25 |
| ianychoi | #link https://translate.openstack.org/ | 13:25 |
| amotoki | I think the deadline for the first release is no so important. | 13:25 |
| amotoki | ore important thing is to announce that we will have stable update soon and your translations have a chance to be imported in near future. | 13:25 |
| ianychoi | I moved Ocata translation plan on the bottom and Pike is currently TBD | 13:25 |
| jpich | amotoki: Good point | 13:26 |
| amotoki | especially for young projects | 13:26 |
| ianychoi | amotoki, I usually say "from now we need to focus on master version" and "from now is hard stringfreeze and we need to focus on stable version". However, cycle-trailing project will have stable version in different timing | 13:26 |
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| amotoki | ianychoi: cycle-trailing and manuals. | 13:27 |
| ianychoi | Then, I am worried that some translators would be confused: master vs. stable versions | 13:27 |
| jftalta | ianychoi, I'm confused. What's the current topic ?... | 13:27 |
| ianychoi | jftalta, translation priority with cycle-trailing release model (e.g., tripleo-ui) :) | 13:28 |
| amotoki | but the topic is "Pike translation goal & priorities" :( | 13:28 |
| ianychoi | Haha sorry | 13:29 |
| ianychoi | When I set the topic only jpich were here :) | 13:29 |
| jftalta | ok, thanks ;) | 13:29 |
| amotoki | :) | 13:29 |
| jftalta | ianychoi, ah,ok. Sorry :( | 13:30 |
| ianychoi | In Ocata, High: Horizon, Dashboard-auth, neutron-lbaas-dashboard | 13:30 |
| ianychoi | Medium: Trove / Sahara / Murano Dashboard | 13:30 |
| ianychoi | Low: Magnum UI & Designate Dashboard | 13:30 |
| ianychoi | IMO I would like to keep the same list but.. can I move lower for the project which has no i18n cross project liaison? | 13:31 |
| jftalta | What would you think of raising Magnum priority in Pike cycle ? | 13:31 |
| ianychoi | + tripleo-ui wants to include in the list. Which priority would be recommended? | 13:31 |
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| ianychoi | jftalta, Magnum has i18n cross project liaison - so if others agree, then I am okay to change to High | 13:32 |
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| ianychoi | jftalta, oh current low, then changing to medium? | 13:32 |
| jftalta | High ? | 13:33 |
| jpich | ianychoi: Maybe let's start with Low for tripleo-ui, while the project is still learning to be more translators-friendly and respect string freezes? | 13:33 |
| ianychoi | zzxwill, jftalta proposed to change magnum priority from low to high. Agreed? | 13:33 |
| ianychoi | tonotuwo, how about you? | 13:33 |
| zzxwill | And the translation amount for tripleo-ui is small. | 13:34 |
| tonotuwo | only monitoring | 13:34 |
| ianychoi | jpich, good suggestion - thanks :) | 13:34 |
| amotoki | ianychoi: I don't think high for magnum-ui is appropriate | 13:34 |
| ianychoi | tonotuwo, you can say just +1 or -1 simply :) | 13:34 |
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| tonotuwo | :) | 13:34 |
| zzxwill | Ianychoi, I have no idea as I am not familiar with Manum project. | 13:34 |
| jftalta | jpich, +1 | 13:34 |
| amotoki | it is an optional project, so there is no reason to mark it high..... IMO | 13:35 |
| ianychoi | amotoki, hmm, would there be some reason for that? jftalta may be Magnum-holic :) aha | 13:35 |
| jftalta | amotoki, zzxwill, magnum deals with containers and containers clusters | 13:36 |
| amotoki | I think when we determine high priority project adoption rate (e.g. project navigator or user survey) needs to be considered. | 13:36 |
| jftalta | ianychoi, yes I am ;) | 13:37 |
| zzxwill | Then +1 for magnum | 13:37 |
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| ianychoi | https://www.openstack.org/software/project-navigator/ | 13:38 |
| ianychoi | Magnum adoption is 11% - within top 10 for optional services (including horizon) | 13:38 |
| jftalta | imho, Ocata will speed up magnum and containers adoption | 13:40 |
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| amotoki | so isn't the priority Medium? | 13:41 |
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| ianychoi | Hmm, let's set magnum higher: Dashboard - Horizon > Dashboard Authorization Page > neutron-lbaas-dashboard [High] > Magnum UI > Trove Dashboard > Sahara Dashboard [Medium] > Murano Dashboard > Designate Dashboard > TripleO-UI [Low] | 13:41 |
| ianychoi | jftalta, the highest in medium :) | 13:41 |
| amotoki | we have only three priorites: high, medium and low, so 'high' almost equals to 'Essential' | 13:41 |
| jpich | Sounds reasonable to me | 13:42 |
| ianychoi | amotoki, how about such interpretation? :) | 13:42 |
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| amotoki | ianychoi: just my interpretation ;P | 13:42 |
| ianychoi | amotoki, my asking is about " > " within high, medium and low :) | 13:43 |
| zzxwill | How about API docs (Nova, Neutron, Glance, Senlin)? | 13:43 |
| jftalta | Humm... Ok, I agree. +1 :) | 13:43 |
| ianychoi | zzxwill, unfortunately API docs are not currently in translation target | 13:44 |
| ianychoi | zzxwill, only api-quick-start is the target | 13:44 |
| zzxwill | Yes, I mean that. The usage of API. | 13:44 |
| ianychoi | For documetation, I18n team has set higher priority on user side documentation | 13:44 |
| zzxwill | Thanks Ian. | 13:44 |
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| amotoki | ianychoi: what do you mean by '>' ? | 13:44 |
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| ianychoi | amotoki, ranking, for example: 1. Dashboard - Horizon > 2. Dashboard Authorization Page > 3. neutron-lbaas-dashboard [High] | 13:45 |
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| ianychoi | zzxwill, for api-quick-start zh_CN: would you tell https://review.openstack.org/#/c/439979/ contributors to contribute in translate.openstack.org? | 13:46 |
| amotoki | I see. neutron-lbaas-dashboard can be set to Medium (or low) | 13:46 |
| amotoki | perhaps we mark it High only because it was previously covered by horizon translation. | 13:46 |
| ianychoi | zzxwill, their changes look very nice: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/439979/1/api-quick-start/source/locale/zh_CN/LC_MESSAGES/api-quick-start.po However, PO files should be managed by translation platform Zanata | 13:47 |
| ianychoi | zzxwill, it would be so nice if we encourage the contributor to change in Zanata rather than changing po file directly | 13:47 |
| ianychoi | amotoki, Okay thanks for explanation. Then I will set the bottom in medium | 13:48 |
| ianychoi | #topic Discussion: ATC criteria | 13:48 |
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| zzxwill | You mean api-quick-start code contributor? ianychoi? | 13:48 |
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| ianychoi | zzxwill, yep the committer for the patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/439979/ jiansong <jian.song@easystack.cn> & JunhuiHe <junhui.he@easystack.cn> | 13:49 |
| ianychoi | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/437188/1/doc/source/official_translator.rst | 13:49 |
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| ianychoi | Zanata has upgraded to 3.9.6 and retrieving the list of contributors would be fine. So, in Pike cycle, I would like to go ahead how to automate ATC status for I18n team rather than proposing as extra ATCs. | 13:50 |
| zzxwill | Got it. I did the same stupid thing at the first time:) | 13:50 |
| ianychoi | zzxwill, haha it may be because of lack of kind explanation from I18n team - for this, let's tentatively consider | 13:51 |
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| jpich | Automated ATC status sounds awesome | 13:51 |
| ianychoi | To accomplish this, I need to define ATC status for I18n team precisely | 13:51 |
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| ianychoi | Previously, we agreed that translators who contributed >= 300 words within the latest 2 cycle are regarded as ATCs | 13:52 |
| ianychoi | But.. >= 300 words is just translation? And including review? | 13:52 |
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| zzxwill | Seldom a code contributor knows the existence of Zanata as far as I know. ianyrchoi. | 13:53 |
| zzxwill | 300 seems not enough, I believe for ATC:( | 13:53 |
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| ianychoi | In my opinion, if ">= 300 words translation" is regarded as one commit, then ">= 300 words review" can be also regarded as one commit | 13:53 |
| zzxwill | We need to encourage review. | 13:53 |
| jftalta | zzxwill, +1 | 13:53 |
| zzxwill | So including review +1 | 13:53 |
| ianychoi | zzxwill, jftalta let's just consider the similar criteria for "one commit merge" in code and/or documentation | 13:54 |
| amotoki | one thing to note is that review count is limited to folks with 'Reviewer' status. | 13:54 |
| ianychoi | zzxwill, jftalta: you mean than ">= 300 words translation" as one commit is unfair? ">= 500 words translation" as one commit would be appropriate? | 13:55 |
| zzxwill | Yes amotoki. I just granted a few 'reviewer' for zh_CN. | 13:55 |
| ianychoi | zzxwill, how many reviewers are in zh_CN team? | 13:55 |
| jftalta | ianychoi, yes, at least | 13:55 |
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| ianychoi | jftalta, zzxwill note that after the fixing, later change of such criteria will be difficult | 13:56 |
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| ianychoi | I will submit ATC calculation for translators into the real ATC extraction script Foundation uses | 13:57 |
| zzxwill | 16 from 87. | 13:57 |
| ianychoi | So I do not want to conclude the exact criteria now | 13:57 |
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| ianychoi | But please keep thinking on more :) | 13:58 |
| jftalta | ianychoi, ok. I'm aware of this. | 13:58 |
| ianychoi | jftalta, thanks :) | 13:58 |
| ianychoi | For other topics, let's skip on the next | 13:59 |
| jftalta | ok | 13:59 |
| ianychoi | I will determine translation priority soon based on today discussion | 13:59 |
| amotoki | the logo on Zanata is too big ? :) | 13:59 |
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| ianychoi | amotoki, haha Thanks for the comment | 13:59 |
| amotoki | :) | 13:59 |
| ianychoi | #action ianychoi will decrease the logo size in translate.o.o | 13:59 |
| ianychoi | Thanks you all! | 13:59 |
| ianychoi | Thank you :) | 13:59 |
| ianychoi | #endmeeting | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Mar 2 14:00:00 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2017/openstack_i18n_meeting.2017-03-02-13.02.html | 14:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2017/openstack_i18n_meeting.2017-03-02-13.02.txt | 14:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2017/openstack_i18n_meeting.2017-03-02-13.02.log.html | 14:00 |
| jpich | Thanks! | 14:00 |
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| tonotuwo | thank | 14:00 |
| jftalta | Thanks, Bye all! | 14:00 |
| zzxwill | Thx:) | 14:00 |
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| andreaf | #startmeeting qa | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Mar 2 17:00:12 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is andreaf. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: qa)" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'qa' | 17:00 |
| andreaf | hello, who's around today? | 17:00 |
| blancos | o/ | 17:00 |
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| chandankumar | andreaf: hello | 17:00 |
| andreaf | Today's agenda: #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/QATeamMeeting#Agenda_for_March_2nd_2017_.281700_UTC.29 | 17:00 |
| rodrigods | o/ | 17:00 |
| sdague | o/ | 17:00 |
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| dustins | \o | 17:01 |
| andreaf | mtreinish, oomichi, afazekas: around? | 17:01 |
| oomichi | andreaf: hi | 17:01 |
| mtreinish | o/ | 17:02 |
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| andreaf | ok we have quite a long dense agenda so let's get started | 17:02 |
| andreaf | #topic PTG | 17:02 |
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| andreaf | About PTG I just wanted to thank everyone who attended | 17:03 |
| andreaf | the team pictures are in the ML :) | 17:03 |
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| tosky | o/ | 17:03 |
| oomichi | hehe, nice pic | 17:03 |
| andreaf | we set priorities for Pike: #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/pike-qa-priorities | 17:03 |
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| andreaf | if you want to review what happened the list of all etherpads is at #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/qa-ptg-pike | 17:04 |
| andreaf | that's all I had on PTG, so moving on | 17:05 |
| andreaf | #topic Gate Status | 17:05 |
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| andreaf | We are at the beginning of the Pike cycle now, and we must make sure that the gate is helping our community and not stopping people from getting work done | 17:06 |
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| andreaf | The failure rate is currently too high in the gate, so we've been discussing how to get things back under control | 17:06 |
| andreaf | Top recheck issues #link http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/gate.html, http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-February/113052.html | 17:06 |
| andreaf | One issue was already fixed: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/439638/ | 17:06 |
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| andreaf | it turns out Tempest did not close connection on failure which caused the ssh banner issue | 17:07 |
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| andreaf | but still we have our SUT running under high load for a large part of test runs and we suspect that may be the actual underlying issue behind a lot of the flackyness we've experienced | 17:08 |
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| andreaf | we discussed a lot in the past about pruning our scenario tests which we should not really be having in tempest | 17:08 |
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| andreaf | and now it's a good time to move ahead on that plan | 17:08 |
| andreaf | we made an etherpad: #link https://ethercalc.openstack.org/nu56u2wrfb2b | 17:09 |
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| andreaf | proposing which scenario to keep in the gate - for now we would simply skip a number of scenarios | 17:09 |
| andreaf | not actually remove them | 17:09 |
| andreaf | but we will need eventually to move some out of tempest | 17:09 |
| sdague | yeh, the concrete patch I have up there just moves them into the slow bucket | 17:10 |
| sdague | which means that you can run them under -e all if you want | 17:10 |
| andreaf | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/439698/ the patch | 17:10 |
| andreaf | and also sdague's patch runs scenario tests serially | 17:10 |
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| oomichi | andreaf: current above patch seems running scenario tests as serial, right? | 17:11 |
| sdague | oomichi: yes | 17:11 |
| oomichi | andreaf: yeah, | 17:11 |
| andreaf | I would ask folks to review the list and if you have any concern with any specific test please put a comment on the ethercals | 17:11 |
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| andreaf | we should try to get that patch approved by end of day tomorrow | 17:11 |
| sdague | it is roughly jordanP's list of tests from the ethercalc | 17:11 |
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| andreaf | one thing that that approach does not cover though is load by API tests - some of which can be quite heavy | 17:12 |
| andreaf | so another patch I proposed reduces concurrency to three #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/439879/ | 17:12 |
| sdague | the inspiration came from some of the nova conversation with ceph folks on their failures, where they think a lot of it is load related, and we said they should just trim back to the important stuff, and run less parallel to get things under control | 17:12 |
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| andreaf | my proposal would be to actually combine the two things | 17:12 |
| sdague | and that seems like a reasonable starting point for us as well | 17:12 |
| sdague | andreaf: well, the concurency drop should be in d-g right? not https://review.openstack.org/#/c/439879/ | 17:13 |
| andreaf | in parallel I'm working on identifying which tests are doing more resource allocation so we can verify if they really need to do so | 17:13 |
| tosky | can we switch the default concurrency level to 3 or 4 also in ostestr and tempest run? | 17:13 |
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| tosky | this load problem has hit also other places (like the RDO CI) | 17:13 |
| tosky | yes, it can be patched in every place, but if the default is saner... | 17:14 |
| sdague | tosky: yeh, it's definitely worth the conversation to figure out how to back it down | 17:14 |
| andreaf | sdague: yeah I guess concurrency is specific to the sizing of the SUT, which is managed by d-g in our case, so it would be more appropriate in there | 17:14 |
| sdague | tosky: especially if it turns out that load reduction really makes the world a lot better | 17:14 |
| andreaf | sdague: only it will have to go in a number of jobs | 17:14 |
| oomichi | I am ok to keep scenario tests with serial if we can get the gate status stable again with sdague patch | 17:15 |
| sdague | part of the current problem, is the data set we can get off a patch is limitted | 17:15 |
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| sdague | so my feeling is to move forward with the serial scenario patch, see what the macro gate effect ends up being after a week, evaluate if it was effective, and if so, what other changes should be made with that data | 17:16 |
| andreaf | so any concern anyone on this? | 17:16 |
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| andreaf | sdague: well the thing is that we've seen already a failure on API tests in your patch | 17:16 |
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| oomichi | andreaf: will we have heavy load tests like current job as non-voting? | 17:16 |
| oomichi | it would be helpful to investigate the root problem | 17:17 |
| sdague | I think the only other part of it is communication about the fact that the scenario tests got trimmed by default, so projects that want to test some of those need an -e all in there gate somewhere | 17:17 |
| andreaf | oomichi: heh I think for tempest we should have an extra job non voting which runs all the tests still, maybe serially, so we don't break them | 17:17 |
| sdague | probably on experimental | 17:17 |
| sdague | andreaf: yeh, or honestly make an all scenarios job | 17:17 |
| oomichi | andreaf: sdague: cool, I don't have any objection | 17:18 |
| andreaf | sdague: yeah something like this | 17:18 |
| sdague | and just run all the scenarios in serial, but only those | 17:18 |
| sdague | so there isn't the 2.5 hour job issue | 17:18 |
| andreaf | ok to summarize | 17:18 |
| andreaf | - email the ML with the plan | 17:18 |
| andreaf | - comment on the etherpad, and tomorrow we merge sdague patch taking in account comments | 17:18 |
| andreaf | - prepare a patch on d-g to reduce concurrency, on hold for now | 17:19 |
| andreaf | - prepare a new scenario only job to run on tempest, to be merged tomorrow as well | 17:19 |
| sdague | andreaf: all seems reasonable | 17:19 |
| andreaf | did I miss anything? | 17:19 |
| oomichi | andreaf: good summary :) | 17:20 |
| andreaf | ok, they are all pretty small tasks I can follow up tomorrow but I need people to look at the ethercalc and raise comments if appropriate | 17:20 |
| andreaf | apart from that I have other two points | 17:20 |
| bknudson_ | any effect on project tempest plugins? | 17:21 |
| sdague | bknudson_: good question | 17:21 |
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| sdague | andreaf: are they typically run in -e full? | 17:21 |
| chandankumar | andreaf: this plan will also help to catch issue in tempest plugins | 17:21 |
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| andreaf | bknudson_ , sdague: I'm not quite sure | 17:22 |
| andreaf | and I think checking all jobs might take a bit | 17:22 |
| andreaf | I mean I can grep for tox -e full across project-config to get an idea | 17:22 |
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| sdague | bknudson_: I think if they are run under -e full by default, it means that the run times of those jobs will get longer if they add a number of scenario tests | 17:22 |
| mtreinish | andreaf: most plugins do not use the tox -efull job | 17:22 |
| mtreinish | in fact I can't think of any | 17:23 |
| sdague | so if they happened to be right up against there timer, they could go over | 17:23 |
| sdague | mtreinish: they are using -e all? | 17:23 |
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| mtreinish | sdague: yeah -eall or -eall-plugin which has system site-packages enabled (hopefully I'll be able to remove that eventually) | 17:23 |
| bknudson_ | the keystone tests are scenario tests (although shouldn't be a problem since not much tested) | 17:23 |
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| sdague | mtreinish: and do they typically set their own concurrency? | 17:24 |
| bknudson_ | oh, we've got both api and scenario | 17:24 |
| andreaf | mtreinish: ok, would you mind checking on that just to be sure? | 17:24 |
| rodrigods | bknudson_, api are only to test the clients used in the scenario | 17:24 |
| sdague | bknudson_: so I think given that, there will be no impact | 17:24 |
| sdague | however we may collect data which suggests how you might want to tweak things | 17:25 |
| mtreinish | sdague: they all rely on the d-g variable for setting concurrency | 17:25 |
| oomichi | octavia sets OS_TESTR_CONCURRENCY 1 as a sample | 17:25 |
| sdague | however, I don't expect that keystone is going to have the same load/iowait issues as jobs that have lvm volumes getting allocated | 17:25 |
| mtreinish | andreaf: I haven't checked every single job in project-config, but I'd be really surprised if any project used the full job on a plugin | 17:25 |
| andreaf | heh right | 17:25 |
| andreaf | mtreinish: heh I agree | 17:26 |
| sdague | I really think that volumes + qemu boots is where we get the really heavy load that's hurting us | 17:26 |
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| andreaf | #action everyone - review the ethercalc @ https://ethercalc.openstack.org/nu56u2wrfb2b | 17:27 |
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| andreaf | #action andreaf email ML with our plan on scenario tests | 17:27 |
| andreaf | #action andreaf setup a scenario only job for tempest | 17:27 |
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| tosky | anecdotally, in sahara we use _REGEXP (with -eall), and probably other plugin do the same | 17:27 |
| andreaf | two more things related to gate instability | 17:27 |
| * dustins makes note to look at the Manila plugin | 17:28 | |
| andreaf | tosky: ok so that would not be affected which is good | 17:28 |
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| andreaf | thanks dustins | 17:28 |
| dustins | Of course! | 17:28 |
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| andreaf | I would like to propose a temp no-new-test merge policy until we are confident the gate is stable | 17:29 |
| andreaf | of course we can discuss tests on a case by case basis | 17:29 |
| andreaf | but in general we should be very careful about getting anything in until things settle down | 17:29 |
| chandankumar | no-new-test merge policy for scenario tests only na? | 17:30 |
| andreaf | and then we should document criterias for new scenarios as jordanP proposed | 17:30 |
| andreaf | chandankumar: well mostly for scenario, but there are API tests that can be pretty heavy | 17:30 |
| sdague | right, it would be nice to let the dust settle to the point where a gate fail of the full job on random project is unexpected | 17:31 |
| oomichi | andreaf: are there any draft of the criterias? | 17:31 |
| sdague | vs. just part of normal business | 17:31 |
| andreaf | so I don't mind a negative API test or a keystone one, but a nova API test for migration would make me think | 17:31 |
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| andreaf | oomichi: we have something in docs already | 17:32 |
| andreaf | oomichi: but I think we need to get something more specific in terms of resource utilisation and reviewing patches | 17:32 |
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| andreaf | oomichi: given the variance on run time and system load it's hard to judge from those but we can check how many servers / volumes are created :) | 17:33 |
| andreaf | oomichi: if it's not something for interop and it could go into functional tests it would be nice to have it there | 17:33 |
| oomichi | andreaf: yeah, I can see. but I mind negative ones anyways ;) | 17:34 |
| andreaf | oomichi: but we can discuss these details on an etherpad or gerrit patch - it's not urgent | 17:34 |
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| oomichi | andreaf: can I see the link of current doc? | 17:34 |
| andreaf | so can we agree on a "please be very careful about getting any new test in Tempest until things settle down" ? | 17:34 |
| oomichi | as the criteria? | 17:34 |
| oomichi | I could not find it in REVIEWING.rst | 17:35 |
| andreaf | oomichi: so for instance #link https://docs.openstack.org/developer/tempest/field_guide/scenario.html | 17:35 |
| andreaf | oomichi: as a temporary measure until the gate is back into shape | 17:36 |
| oomichi | andreaf: I see, thanks. yeah, we need the detail more and nice to discuss it | 17:36 |
| andreaf | #agreed until further notice we shall think twice before letting any new test in Tempest (until the gate settles down) | 17:37 |
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| andreaf | ok I'm not even sure if that's a meeting bot command :D | 17:37 |
| sdague | heh | 17:37 |
| andreaf | so one last thing is about versions we test | 17:37 |
| andreaf | API versions | 17:38 |
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| andreaf | we took cinder v1 out of the gate and have a job to test those on demand I think | 17:38 |
| andreaf | but we may need to review / document the API version that we want to exercise in the gate | 17:39 |
| sdague | andreaf: I noticed that volumes v1 admin actions didn't get pulled with that | 17:39 |
| sdague | I think because the tests are structured differently | 17:39 |
| andreaf | sdague: oh ok | 17:39 |
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| sdague | https://github.com/openstack/tempest/blob/13a7fec7592236a1b2a5510d819181d8fe3f694e/tempest/api/volume/admin/test_volumes_actions.py#L58 | 17:39 |
| sdague | probably a good todo | 17:39 |
| andreaf | any volunteer to look into that? | 17:39 |
| andreaf | sdague? | 17:40 |
| sdague | it definitely feels like for per-commit pre gating we should only be testing the most recent major API | 17:40 |
| sdague | andreaf: I'll see what I can do | 17:40 |
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| andreaf | sdague: thanks! | 17:40 |
| sdague | testing deprecated APIs seems like the role of the project, or at least being done not on master per-commit pre-gating | 17:41 |
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| andreaf | sdague: yeah my only concern is whether it's enough to drive tests via an API version, or if we need to ensure that all services are talking that same version between them as well | 17:41 |
| sdague | andreaf: good question, I don't know | 17:41 |
| oomichi | sdague: I agree. cinder v3 is current, and v2 is supported. So it would be nice to test v3 as priority on the gate | 17:42 |
| sdague | oomichi: yep | 17:42 |
| sdague | especially as nova is going to require v3 shortly | 17:42 |
| andreaf | ok I guess there is some digging to be done to track which versions we are testing in which job and propose a plan on how we want things to look like | 17:43 |
| mtreinish | oomichi: just update the endpoint in the config it should be the same | 17:43 |
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| sdague | mtreinish: yep | 17:43 |
| oomichi | mtreinish: yeah, v3 = v2 + microversions :) | 17:43 |
| andreaf | #action: sdague to look into cinder v1 admin tests | 17:43 |
| sdague | but the base should just work sliding across | 17:43 |
| andreaf | any volunteer to look at API versions planning? | 17:43 |
| oomichi | andreaf: I can help | 17:44 |
| andreaf | oomichi: great, thanks! | 17:44 |
| andreaf | #action oomichi to look at API versions for test jobs | 17:44 |
| andreaf | ok that's all I had on the gate issues | 17:45 |
| andreaf | anything else anyone? | 17:45 |
| andreaf | #topic Specs Reviews | 17:45 |
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| andreaf | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/qa-specs,n,z | 17:45 |
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| andreaf | anything on specs? | 17:46 |
| andreaf | 3... | 17:46 |
| andreaf | 2.. | 17:46 |
| andreaf | 1. | 17:46 |
| sdague | I think we can probably dump the 2 grenade spaces. | 17:46 |
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| sdague | I had a good talk with luce? (sp) at PTG | 17:46 |
| sdague | and I think the new idea is to build a purpose built tool for the zero downtime keystone testing | 17:46 |
| andreaf | luzC | 17:46 |
| sdague | andreaf: that's it | 17:47 |
| andreaf | sdague: yeah I'm not sure if that's going to be new specs or what, probably yes | 17:47 |
| andreaf | I'll ping luzC about those | 17:47 |
| sdague | so, i'd just double check with her, and close those out unless there is a reason they want to keep them up | 17:47 |
| andreaf | #action andreaf check with luzC about grenade specs | 17:48 |
| andreaf | #topic Tempest | 17:48 |
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| andreaf | oomichi: did you add this? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/389318/3 | 17:49 |
| mtreinish | andreaf: I put that on there | 17:49 |
| mtreinish | andreaf: I had a discussion the other day in the puppet channel about how that broke the ceilo plugin | 17:50 |
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| oomichi | that broke ceilometer gate | 17:50 |
| oomichi | mtreinish: yeah, that is | 17:50 |
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| oomichi | I replaced service client code with tempest.lib after that in ceilometer repo to avoid it again | 17:50 |
| mtreinish | I just thought it was a good discussion point, since it's a private interface in lib | 17:51 |
| mtreinish | although we clearly document the lib stable contract on public interfaces: https://docs.openstack.org/developer/tempest/library.html#tempest-library-documentation | 17:51 |
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| oomichi | mtreinish: yeah, that is really private one | 17:51 |
| andreaf | yes so that's clearly documented already | 17:52 |
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| mtreinish | but it makes me wonder what the gap was in the stable interfaces | 17:52 |
| sdague | so... for some definition of clearly documented :) | 17:53 |
| oomichi | I guess people never read the doc of the other projects even if we have clear doc. | 17:54 |
| sdague | honestly, until the documentation includes a bunch of example usage, and makes it so that it's not worth people's time to open the code, once they get in the code, they are going to find other methods they want to use | 17:54 |
| sdague | I would not, for instance, call https://docs.openstack.org/developer/tempest/library/cli.html clear doc | 17:54 |
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| mtreinish | sdague: nor would I | 17:55 |
| andreaf | sdague: uhm sure that's not the point under discussion though - I though the part about stability is quite clear | 17:55 |
| andreaf | sdague: but I again I may be to involved in tempest to see the gap | 17:55 |
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| sdague | andreaf: so, I think it's easy to say "if you click through these 20 pages you can find the functions we consider stable" | 17:55 |
| andreaf | sdague: we have documentation as part of the high prio things in pike I agree we need examples or so | 17:56 |
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| sdague | but, that's not really super clear or discoverable. You basically want an SDK doc | 17:56 |
| sdague | and SDK needs examples for every usage | 17:56 |
| andreaf | yeah ok that's in the todo list | 17:56 |
| sdague | it might also be interesting to figure out if there was a way to emit some warnings from tempest run if stuff gets inherited in places that are unexpected | 17:57 |
| sdague | to help people realize they did the wrong thing | 17:57 |
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| andreaf | yeah that's the other topic I had on the agenda for today | 17:57 |
| andreaf | but I guess we are running out of time | 17:57 |
| andreaf | we can continue in the QA channel or next meeting | 17:57 |
| chandankumar | sdague: andreaf i would like to help on this. | 17:58 |
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| oomichi | sdague: I did try it with hacking, but difficult to get agreement | 17:58 |
| andreaf | so it's a pity it takes two weeks to meet the same group again in a meeting | 17:58 |
| andreaf | chandankumar: thank you!! | 17:58 |
| bknudson_ | I've got a review that's stuck - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/388897/ -- I answered the comment but the reviewer seems to have left. | 17:58 |
| mtreinish | andreaf: the docs stuff? I did get a start to some of that yesterday: https://review.openstack.org/439830 | 17:58 |
| andreaf | mtreinish: thank you! | 17:58 |
| andreaf | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/388897/ for review | 17:59 |
| mtreinish | castulo: did you have a follow up on bknudson_'s patch ^^^ | 17:59 |
| andreaf | ok thanks everyone! | 18:00 |
| andreaf | #endmeeting | 18:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Mar 2 18:00:11 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2017/qa.2017-03-02-17.00.html | 18:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2017/qa.2017-03-02-17.00.txt | 18:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2017/qa.2017-03-02-17.00.log.html | 18:00 |
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| mriedem | #startmeeting nova | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Mar 2 21:00:54 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mriedem. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova' | 21:00 |
| takashin | o/ | 21:01 |
| edleafe | \o | 21:01 |
| dansmith | o/ | 21:01 |
| efried | o/ | 21:01 |
| viks | o/ | 21:01 |
| raj_singh | o/ | 21:01 |
| melwitt | o/ | 21:01 |
| dtp | o/ | 21:01 |
| mriedem | #link agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova | 21:02 |
| mriedem | let's get started | 21:02 |
| mriedem | #topic release news | 21:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "release news (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:03 | |
| mriedem | #link Pike release schedule: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/Pike_Release_Schedule | 21:03 |
| mriedem | the release schedule is official | 21:03 |
| mriedem | not much news there otherwise | 21:03 |
| mriedem | #topic bugs | 21:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bugs (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:03 | |
| mriedem | we don't have any critical bugs | 21:04 |
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| mriedem | we do have several newish untriaged bugs | 21:04 |
| mriedem | gate status is relatively healthy | 21:05 |
| mriedem | depending on who you ask | 21:05 |
| mriedem | no 3rd party ci news | 21:05 |
| mriedem | i don't know that vmware ever got their stuff running | 21:05 |
| mriedem | but there is no one to ever ask anyway | 21:05 |
| mriedem | #topic reminders | 21:06 |
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| mriedem | #link Pike Review Priorities etherpad template: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/pike-nova-priorities-tracking | 21:06 |
| mriedem | Subteams et al, please update, carrying over from https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-nova-priorities-tracking as appropriate. | 21:06 |
| mriedem | efried got that primed this week | 21:06 |
| mriedem | #info Move and/or repropose specs for Pike in the nova-specs repo. | 21:06 |
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| mriedem | #topic | 21:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:06 | |
| mriedem | #undo | 21:06 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: #topic | 21:07 |
| mriedem | #topic Stable branch status: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/stable-tracker | 21:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Stable branch status: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/stable-tracker (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:07 | |
| mriedem | #info Nova 14.0.4 was released for stable/newton. | 21:07 |
| mriedem | #info Nova 13.1.3 was released for stable/mitaka. | 21:07 |
| mriedem | that's about it | 21:07 |
| mriedem | there are several changes on stable/newton with +2s | 21:07 |
| mriedem | #topic subteam highlights | 21:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "subteam highlights (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:08 | |
| mriedem | dansmith: cells v2? | 21:08 |
| dansmith | wudup | 21:08 |
| dansmith | cells, we've got 'em | 21:08 |
| dansmith | we talked a bit about all the code that is up, | 21:08 |
| dansmith | what happened at the ptg, and the current efforts afoot to finish out the api stuff and make devstack do that cellsy thang | 21:08 |
| * melwitt beams | 21:09 | |
| * dansmith bows | 21:09 | |
| mriedem | is there anything that needs attention right now to move forward? | 21:09 |
| dansmith | the vein popping out of the side of my head, but otherwise, no | 21:10 |
| mriedem | you're still cranking on the thing to keep move operations witin the same cell? | 21:10 |
| mriedem | that's WPI? | 21:10 |
| mriedem | *WIP | 21:10 |
| dansmith | no, that's up | 21:10 |
| dansmith | no real reason for it to be WIP anymore I think | 21:10 |
| mriedem | ok, i guess dump what you need reviews on in the etherpad above | 21:10 |
| dansmith | the whole set is just kinda in flux as I try to get things lined up | 21:10 |
| dansmith | yeah | 21:11 |
| mriedem | ok | 21:11 |
| mriedem | edleafe: scheduler/placement highlights? | 21:11 |
| edleafe | We started, but didn't have anything to discuss early Monday after PTG, so it ended quickly and we got more coffee | 21:11 |
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| edleafe | Otherwise just working on traits and Jay's ironic stuff | 21:11 |
| * bauzas waves late | 21:11 | |
| mriedem | ok, anything immediate that needs review? i know jaypipes was pushing the os-traits stuff earlier today | 21:11 |
| edleafe | there is this traits series starting with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/440654/ | 21:12 |
| edleafe | And alex_xu's spec at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/345138/ | 21:12 |
| edleafe | more eyes would be good | 21:13 |
| dansmith | edleafe: his stuff isn't ironic | 21:13 |
| dansmith | edleafe: it's for Ironic | 21:13 |
| mriedem | ok, edleafe can you throw those into the review priorities etherpad too pleasE? | 21:13 |
| mriedem | *please | 21:13 |
| edleafe | mriedem: k | 21:13 |
| mriedem | thanks | 21:13 |
| edleafe | dansmith: alanis would disagree | 21:13 |
| dansmith | oh, alanis | 21:13 |
| mriedem | tdurakov: around for live migration? | 21:13 |
| mriedem | probably unrelated to live migration, but a bug that came up today that's failing a lot on the multinode job, https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1669468 | 21:15 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1669468 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "tempest.api.compute.servers.test_novnc.NoVNCConsoleTestJSON.test_novnc fails intermittently in neutron multinode nv job" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 21:15 |
| mriedem | it's a pretty high failure rate, on the multinode job | 21:15 |
| mriedem | so if anyone knows anything about novnc and that test, help please | 21:15 |
| mriedem | api, i don't think sdague or alex_xu are around | 21:16 |
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| mriedem | there are a flurry of specs for api | 21:16 |
| mriedem | sriov/pci, i don't think anyone is around for that | 21:16 |
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| mriedem | also, lbeliveau is no longer working on openstack, we found out last week | 21:16 |
| mriedem | just fyi | 21:17 |
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| mriedem | notifications updates | 21:17 |
| mriedem | A short recap from the PTG is on the ML http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-March/113098.html | 21:17 |
| mriedem | Patches for the high prio searchlight notification bp is ready for the cores to look at https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/additional-notification-fields-for-searchlight | 21:17 |
| mriedem | Fix for the hight prio bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1665263 is ready for the cores to look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/437222/ | 21:17 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1665263 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "instance.delete notification is missing for unscheduled instance" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Balazs Gibizer (balazs-gibizer) | 21:17 |
| mriedem | that last one was a regression in ocata so we'll need to get it backported | 21:17 |
| mriedem | i'll put it in the review etherpad | 21:18 |
| mriedem | powervm - efried? | 21:18 |
| efried | Yup | 21:18 |
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| efried | We have four change sets ready for review by the broader community. | 21:18 |
| efried | Per PTG guidance, we've split up the spawn/delete into four smaller chunks. | 21:18 |
| efried | Three of those are included in the aforementioned four-ready-for-review. | 21:18 |
| mriedem | efried: i saw the base change which doesn't do any operations was passing the powervm ci - how does that work when it doesn't create a server? is it just testing that you can stack the thing but no tempest? | 21:18 |
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| efried | mriedem Actually, tempest is running. The tests that we have whitelisted run the spawn and make sure that doesn't error, but they make no effort to, like, log into the thing or whatever. | 21:19 |
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| efried | So yeah, we could theoretically merge these one at a time, which we didn't think we were going to be able to do. | 21:20 |
| efried | Though #2 is where we actually start creating the LPAR. | 21:20 |
| mriedem | ok | 21:20 |
| mriedem | delicious lpars | 21:20 |
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| mriedem | finally, | 21:21 |
| efried | As for our CI, it's been running very smoothly. | 21:21 |
| mriedem | does thorst have a kid yet? | 21:21 |
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| efried | almost, but not quite. | 21:21 |
| mriedem | heh, ok | 21:21 |
| efried | Unless you count nova-powervm. That's his baby. | 21:21 |
| mriedem | fair enough | 21:21 |
| mriedem | i added cinder to the subteam highlights since we have a weekly meeting for it (for the last year now) | 21:21 |
| mriedem | highlights from today were lyarwood has patches up to add uuid and attachment_id to the bdm table, we're going to get those in, | 21:22 |
| mriedem | and scottda has a change to make nova support cinder v3 which we need to get in, but requires a cinderclient release first | 21:22 |
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| mriedem | which i think jungleboyj was going to propose | 21:22 |
| mriedem | plus reviewing johnthetubaguy's new cinder api spec for nova | 21:22 |
| mriedem | #topic stuck reviews | 21:22 |
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| mriedem | there was nothing on the agenda - anything to bring up? | 21:22 |
| mriedem | #topic open discussion | 21:23 |
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| mriedem | a couple of things | 21:23 |
| mriedem | (mriedem): Spec freeze? Non-priority blueprint freeze? | 21:23 |
| mriedem | In Newton and Ocata we had spec freeze on the first milestone. Should we still do that for Pike? | 21:23 |
| mriedem | get ready | 21:23 |
| mriedem | In Newton we had a non-priority feature freeze between n-1 and n-2. In Ocata we just had the feature freeze at o-3 because of the short schedule. What should we do for Pike? Same as Newton? Non-priority feature freeze at p-2? Or just feature freeze at p-3 for all, priority or not? We have fewer core reviewers so I personally don't want to cut off the majority of blueprints too early in the cycle. | 21:23 |
| cuhler | We responded to Veritas Nova volume driver blueprint and spec review comments. Can it be approved for Pike? | 21:24 |
| mriedem | so i was thinking spec freeze at the first milestone | 21:24 |
| cuhler | blueprint: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/veritas-hyperscale-libvirt-volume-driver volume driver spec: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/430488/ os brick connector spec: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/436670/ | 21:24 |
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| mriedem | i was thinking no non-priority feature freeze, and just have the general FF at p-3 | 21:24 |
| bauzas | How many open specs do we have atm ? | 21:25 |
| mriedem | we don't have to decide here, i'll send my thoughts to the ML | 21:25 |
| bauzas | B/c | 21:25 |
| mriedem | bauzas: i count 5 pages | 21:25 |
| mriedem | in gerrit | 21:25 |
| mriedem | 25 per page | 21:26 |
| dansmith | mriedem: not having a prio freeze because we have fewer cores is a nice tip of the hat I think, acknowledging the issue I think | 21:26 |
| mriedem | so ~125 open specs | 21:26 |
| dansmith | it won't fix anything, but might ease the pressure a bit | 21:26 |
| bauzas | b/c it would mean only one milestone for merging all of them then | 21:26 |
| mriedem | bauzas: we aren't going to merge all of them | 21:26 |
| mriedem | we never do | 21:26 |
| bauzas | So yeah I agree with you | 21:26 |
| mriedem | we'll have enough to do with just re-approvals | 21:26 |
| mriedem | so i'll propose spec freeze on p-1 and FF on p-3 to the ML | 21:27 |
| mriedem | and see who freaks out | 21:27 |
| bauzas | I just want to explain that its better to have more milestones for merging implementations than specs IMHO | 21:27 |
| mriedem | that's what this gives us | 21:27 |
| mriedem | p-1 is 4/13 btw | 21:27 |
| mriedem | so we have 6 weeks for specs | 21:27 |
| mriedem | i think that's more than enough time | 21:28 |
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| mriedem | to overcommit | 21:28 |
| mriedem | and underdeliver | 21:28 |
| dtp | lol | 21:28 |
| bauzas | Agreed | 21:28 |
| mriedem | next thing i had was, | 21:28 |
| mriedem | (mriedem): The docs team is looking for a liaison from the Nova team to help coordinate things, like getting Nova specific changes into the install guide (like placement and cells v2 from Ocata). Is anyone interested in that role? | 21:28 |
| mriedem | i posted to the ML and there is already some interest from at least 2 people | 21:28 |
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| mriedem | one was a private reply | 21:28 |
| cuhler | Sorry to interrupt earlier. We responded to Veritas Nova volume driver blueprint and spec review comments. Can it be approved for Pike? | 21:29 |
| mriedem | so, cuhler - i can look at your spec again, it's totally contingent on getting a connector into os-brick first, | 21:29 |
| mriedem | which will depend on getting your volume driver, with CI, into cinder | 21:29 |
| cuhler | Spec approval is contingent on getting the os-brick connector code in? | 21:30 |
| mriedem | no | 21:30 |
| mriedem | code approval in nova | 21:30 |
| mriedem | i expect the spec is straight-forward | 21:30 |
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| mriedem | we generally don't even need a spec for volume drivers | 21:30 |
| mriedem | since they are just a pass through to os-brick | 21:30 |
| cuhler | i.e. we need os-brick spec approval. yes it's straightforward. | 21:31 |
| mriedem | but i'll look at the nova spec again | 21:31 |
| cuhler | Thx | 21:31 |
| mriedem | anyone else for anything else? | 21:31 |
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| mriedem | ok thanks everyone | 21:31 |
| mriedem | #endmeeting | 21:31 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Mar 2 21:31:28 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:31 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2017/nova.2017-03-02-21.00.html | 21:31 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2017/nova.2017-03-02-21.00.txt | 21:31 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2017/nova.2017-03-02-21.00.log.html | 21:31 |
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