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| aspiers | hi | 09:01 |
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| aspiers | #startmeeting ha | 09:10 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Dec 5 09:10:11 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is aspiers. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 09:10 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ha)" | 09:10 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ha' | 09:10 |
| ddeja | o/ | 09:10 |
| aspiers | ddeja, haukebruno: I guess we'll start, maybe others will join in a bit | 09:10 |
| aspiers | #topic specs | 09:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "specs (Meeting topic: ha)" | 09:10 | |
| aspiers | so I totally forgot to submit that spec after last week's meeting so I submitted it last night | 09:11 |
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| aspiers | I made some more improvements to it too | 09:11 |
| * ddeja adds to review queue | 09:11 | |
| aspiers | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/406659/ | 09:11 |
| aspiers | however I realised that the template does not quite have the perfect structure for it | 09:11 |
| aspiers | and that is causing the tests to fail when run locally | 09:12 |
| ddeja | oh | 09:12 |
| aspiers | I didn't yet check why the Jenkins check is passing | 09:12 |
| aspiers | actually I'm not even sure how to see the build log | 09:12 |
| aspiers | since it's not linked from gerrit any more | 09:12 |
| aspiers | :-/ | 09:12 |
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| aspiers | oh crap, looks like I uploaded an old version | 09:13 |
| ddeja | OK, so I'm waiting with reviewing | 09:14 |
| ddeja | :) | 09:14 |
| aspiers | uploading a new one now | 09:15 |
| ddeja | cool | 09:15 |
| aspiers | done | 09:16 |
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| aspiers | let me know what you think about the new section structure | 09:16 |
| ddeja | right now? | 09:17 |
| aspiers | no :) | 09:17 |
| aspiers | I tried to emphasise the line between the architecture and the actual implementation | 09:17 |
| ddeja | that's good | 09:17 |
| aspiers | to make sure each component stays compatible whilst remaining independent | 09:17 |
| aspiers | no coupling between components | 09:17 |
| aspiers | I wasn't too sure about the work items though | 09:17 |
| beekhof | oh goody, we;re having a meeting :) | 09:19 |
| aspiers | :) | 09:19 |
| ddeja | \o/ | 09:19 |
| aspiers | next spec for me is libvirt OCF RA | 09:19 |
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| ddeja | it's already in review, isn't it? | 09:20 |
| aspiers | beekhof: I took the liberty of giving you the work item around the ha-guide, but I will try to help with that | 09:20 |
| beekhof | ok :) | 09:20 |
| aspiers | ddeja: I don't think so? | 09:21 |
| beekhof | back in 10 | 09:21 |
| ddeja | aspiers: oh, so I must have confuse it with something else | 09:22 |
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| aspiers | no problem | 09:22 |
| aspiers | sorry, simultaneously in my team's standup meeting | 09:26 |
| ddeja | like on IRC or skype? | 09:26 |
| aspiers | on VoIP (mumble) | 09:27 |
| aspiers | will be finished in a sec | 09:27 |
| aspiers | there is one detail missing from the compute node monitoring spec | 09:27 |
| ddeja | which is? | 09:27 |
| aspiers | getting the link | 09:27 |
| aspiers | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-instance-ha line 135 | 09:28 |
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| aspiers | ddeja: this was something discussed in Barcelona | 09:28 |
| aspiers | and line 140-141 | 09:28 |
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| ddeja | but this is about host recovery, not monitoring? | 09:29 |
| aspiers | so the idea was to make fence_evacuate implement not just the spec but also an extra feature of being able to notify masakari | 09:29 |
| aspiers | although now I can't remember why masakari can't just be modified to accept the same format | 09:30 |
| aspiers | ddeja: well, it's about the message passed between monitoring and recovery | 09:30 |
| ddeja | ok | 09:30 |
| ddeja | by fence_evacuate you mean the resource agent? | 09:30 |
| aspiers | no the fencing agent you wrote | 09:30 |
| * ddeja is getting lost in all names... | 09:31 | |
| aspiers | :) | 09:31 |
| ddeja | OK | 09:31 |
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| ddeja | IMO we should provide minimal script | 09:31 |
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| ddeja | or separate script for masakari | 09:32 |
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| ddeja | so we can keep it simple | 09:32 |
| aspiers | that's true | 09:32 |
| aspiers | although they might have a lot of shared code | 09:32 |
| beekhof | back | 09:32 |
| aspiers | also I was wondering where is the best home for fence_evacuate.py | 09:32 |
| ddeja | python script with shared base class? | 09:33 |
| aspiers | beekhof: I added you to this review | 09:33 |
| aspiers | ddeja: yeah maybe | 09:33 |
| ddeja | I'm just against mixing two mechanisms in one fence agent | 09:33 |
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| ddeja | that's where my conserns came from | 09:34 |
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| aspiers | ok | 09:34 |
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| beekhof | fence what? | 09:36 |
| beekhof | what does this agent do? | 09:36 |
| aspiers | beekhof: notify the recovery workflow controller | 09:36 |
| ddeja | POC agent that sends API call to mistral | 09:36 |
| aspiers | beekhof: it's basically fence_evacuate.py | 09:36 |
| aspiers | but we want to support notifying masakari too | 09:37 |
| ddeja | That's too bad that there is no NTT guys, but I'd like to ask it anyway: Why? | 09:37 |
| beekhof | they cant use fence_compute? | 09:38 |
| ddeja | I mean, what value is added by Masakari? | 09:38 |
| aspiers | ddeja: quite a lot these days, actually | 09:38 |
| aspiers | ddeja: it got a lot better | 09:38 |
| aspiers | ddeja: if you look in new big tent gerrit repos | 09:38 |
| ddeja | OK, so it would be for, hmm, easier transition? | 09:39 |
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| ddeja | to be well understood: I'm not saying that Masakari is not needed. I just want to better understood what happend in Barcelona :) | 09:39 |
| aspiers | ddeja: NTT could probably implement the masakari interface bit | 09:40 |
| ddeja | OK | 09:41 |
| aspiers | ddeja: the long-term idea would be for masakari to receive the notification and then optionally pass it on to mistral | 09:41 |
| aspiers | sorry, VoIP meeting is distracting again | 09:41 |
| aspiers | ddeja: so mistral would be used to implement the recovery, and masakari would implement the policy | 09:42 |
| ddeja | oh, OK | 09:42 |
| ddeja | what happend to congress? | 09:42 |
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| ddeja | as a policy engine? | 09:42 |
| aspiers | that could happen in the longer term | 09:43 |
| ddeja | OK | 09:43 |
| * ddeja starts to understand it | 09:43 | |
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| aspiers | #topic meeting time | 09:47 |
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| aspiers | would people be ok with moving the meeting to another day? | 09:47 |
| aspiers | Monday's are really difficult for me | 09:47 |
| beekhof | yes | 09:47 |
| aspiers | and it would be nice to have some time to prepare for the meeting which is not Sunday | 09:48 |
| aspiers | I guess we need to keep the same time due to timezones | 09:48 |
| ddeja | every day except Friday fits me (if it stays around morning in UTC) | 09:48 |
| aspiers | ddeja: ok thanks | 09:48 |
| aspiers | I think Wed/Thurs would be best for me | 09:49 |
| aspiers | we often have meetings on Mon/Tues | 09:49 |
| aspiers | beekhof: any preference | 09:49 |
| beekhof | tuesday is good | 09:49 |
| aspiers | I can submit a review for the day change and add everyone to review it | 09:49 |
| beekhof | but wednesday can also work | 09:49 |
| beekhof | thursday is out | 09:49 |
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| aspiers | ok | 09:51 |
| aspiers | I'll submit for Wed then | 09:51 |
| aspiers | thanks | 09:51 |
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| aspiers | #topic AOB | 09:54 |
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| aspiers | anything else? | 09:54 |
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| ddeja | nothing from my side | 09:55 |
| aspiers | sorry, I am still in this other important meeting, difficult to multi-task | 09:55 |
| ddeja | no problem | 09:55 |
| aspiers | alright, I guess we can end if nothing else | 09:58 |
| aspiers | thanks all | 09:58 |
| aspiers | see you in gerrit :) | 09:58 |
| aspiers | #endmeeting | 09:58 |
| ddeja | bye | 09:58 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Dec 5 09:58:33 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 09:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ha/2016/ha.2016-12-05-09.10.html | 09:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ha/2016/ha.2016-12-05-09.10.txt | 09:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ha/2016/ha.2016-12-05-09.10.log.html | 09:58 |
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| haukebruno | thanks aspiers \o/ | 09:58 |
| aspiers | thanks for attending haukebruno :) | 09:58 |
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| hai_shi | xionchen_:ping | 13:49 |
| xionchen_ | ping | 13:49 |
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| hai_shi | xionchen_:Did you finish your job? | 13:52 |
| xionchen_ | which one? | 13:52 |
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| hai_shi | today's work | 13:53 |
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| andreykurilin | #startmeeting Rally | 14:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Dec 5 14:02:23 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is andreykurilin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Rally)" | 14:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'rally' | 14:02 |
| andreykurilin | hi al | 14:02 |
| xionchen_ | hi | 14:03 |
| hai_shi | :) | 14:03 |
| andreykurilin | actionally, I do not have any topics to discuss:) just one news | 14:04 |
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| andreykurilin | we have broken gates, again :D | 14:04 |
| andreykurilin | Today new job failed | 14:04 |
| andreykurilin | it looks like issue with setuptools | 14:05 |
| andreykurilin | I'll try to investigate today-tomorrow | 14:05 |
| xionchen_ | which one? | 14:05 |
| andreykurilin | gate-rally-install-centos-7 | 14:05 |
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| andreykurilin | http://logs.openstack.org/83/394583/27/check/gate-rally-install-centos-7/ede6360/console.html#_2016-12-05_12_06_07_614631 | 14:06 |
| xionchen_ | I was checking that 1 min ago | 14:06 |
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| andreykurilin | ok | 14:07 |
| andreykurilin | I found the real error message - http://logs.openstack.org/30/406630/2/check/gate-rally-install-centos-7/30c2f92/console.html#_2016-12-05_11_39_51_807323 | 14:07 |
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| andreykurilin | https://github.com/openstack/rally/blob/master/install_rally.sh#L430-L432 | 14:08 |
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| andreykurilin | ok | 14:09 |
| andreykurilin | Any other topics to discuss? | 14:09 |
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| xionchen_ | I don't have any | 14:11 |
| chenhb__ | Nothing from me | 14:12 |
| andreykurilin | ok :( | 14:12 |
| andreykurilin | let's finish | 14:12 |
| andreykurilin | thanks for participation | 14:12 |
| andreykurilin | #endmeeting | 14:12 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Dec 5 14:12:48 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:12 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rally/2016/rally.2016-12-05-14.02.html | 14:12 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rally/2016/rally.2016-12-05-14.02.txt | 14:12 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rally/2016/rally.2016-12-05-14.02.log.html | 14:12 |
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| lennyb | #startmeeting third-party | 15:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Dec 5 15:01:04 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is lennyb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'third_party' | 15:01 |
| lennyb | Hello | 15:01 |
| mmedvede | o/ | 15:01 |
| asselin | o/ | 15:01 |
| lennyb | hi asselin, mmedvede, how are you? | 15:02 |
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| asselin | good thanks :) | 15:02 |
| mmedvede | same | 15:03 |
| lennyb | I wanted to discuss git issues. mmedvede asked me about 2 weeks ago. | 15:03 |
| * lennyb writing | 15:03 | |
| lennyb | due to the recent git issues we had to start using a local copy/ | 15:04 |
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| lennyb | how do you manage it? | 15:04 |
| mmedvede | lennyb: we switched from git.o.o to github.com, it did resolve the immediate problems | 15:05 |
| mmedvede | lennyb: but we have git-mirror server in the works, still thinking about how to implement it | 15:05 |
| mmedvede | lennyb: one way is to listen on gerrit stream and update mirrors when relevant merges happen | 15:06 |
| mmedvede | lennyb: how did you implement local mirrors? | 15:06 |
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| lennyb | mmedvede, I had to do something very quickly. I just added daily crontab with git pull on one server, and all the CI machines just cloning from it | 15:08 |
| lennyb | somthing like this http://paste.openstack.org/show/591435/ | 15:08 |
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| lennyb | mmedvede, I know, it's ugly :) | 15:09 |
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| mmedvede | as long as it works :) | 15:10 |
| lennyb | so basically all the irrelevant code we are taking from local host and only the patched one from the upstream | 15:10 |
| lennyb | anything else someone wants to discuss? | 15:11 |
| mmedvede | lennyb: but do you not have a local git cache on your images already? | 15:11 |
| mmedvede | e.g. if you use prepare-node, it does cache things under /opt/git | 15:11 |
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| lennyb | mmedvede, no. we are running jobs on physical servers, not vms, maybe in the future we will use ironica images for this, but not right now | 15:12 |
| mmedvede | for us connection to git.o.o was hanging/timing out on update on top of cached repos | 15:12 |
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| mmedvede | lennyb: I see. Could also be possible to use an iscsi volume | 15:13 |
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| mmedvede | if your physical server allows | 15:13 |
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| lennyb | mmedvede, I will check it. I had to do something very quickly, so this solution took me about 30mins, anything else could take much longer | 15:15 |
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| lennyb | anything else someone wants to discuss? | 15:15 |
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| asselin | lennyb, are you the new chair, or just filling in temporarily for anteaya ? | 15:17 |
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| lennyb | asselin, anteaya added me in case she is not here, but looks like she 'is not here' ever since :) | 15:18 |
| asselin | lol, ok :) | 15:18 |
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| lennyb | asselin, this meeting happens at 5pm my local time, so I am usually at work and attend to meeting | 15:19 |
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| lennyb | hi asselin, mmedvede, if there are nothing else to discus I will see you next week | 15:23 |
| asselin | I've nothing else. See you next week. | 15:23 |
| mmedvede | nothing from me | 15:25 |
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| lennyb | bye, thanks for being here... | 15:26 |
| mmedvede | thanks lennyb | 15:27 |
| asselin | thanks lennyb | 15:27 |
| lennyb | #endmeeting | 15:27 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Dec 5 15:27:12 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:27 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2016/third_party.2016-12-05-15.01.html | 15:27 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2016/third_party.2016-12-05-15.01.txt | 15:27 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2016/third_party.2016-12-05-15.01.log.html | 15:27 |
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| emagana | Hello UC Folks! | 19:01 |
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| jproulx | hello emagana | 19:01 |
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| emagana | I am going to start the meeting.. I am sorry I am a bit late | 19:02 |
| docaedo | howdy | 19:02 |
| mrhillsman | o/ | 19:02 |
| CarolBarrett | Hi | 19:02 |
| emagana | #startmeeting UC | 19:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Dec 5 19:02:15 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is emagana. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:02 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'uc' | 19:02 |
| emagana | We have a good agenda and tomorrow is an important day for this community | 19:02 |
| docaedo | o/ | 19:02 |
| emagana | Agenda: #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Governance/Foundation/UserCommittee | 19:03 |
| emagana | #topic Review proposed bylaws changes | 19:03 |
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| Rockyg | o/ | 19:03 |
| emagana | #link https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QmLOeseAkjBWM_TXsUeKBErNaSHnuZp81II0T71ARfo/edit?usp=sharing | 19:03 |
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| emagana | Hello docaedo mrhillsman CarolBarrett jproulx Rockyg | 19:03 |
| emagana | So, we have been working with this document for many many weeks, the question is. Are we good with it? Does it reflect what we want? | 19:04 |
| docaedo | It's been looking good to me - I saw one little bit of feedback come in this morning and it seems good - but can't imagine there's much of anything left to tweak at this point | 19:05 |
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| maishsk | good evening | 19:06 |
| emagana | the only last minute feedback I have received was from Tim Bell on the elections period but I was a misunderstanding and it's has been cleared off. | 19:06 |
| emagana | Hi maishsk | 19:06 |
| mrhillsman | great | 19:06 |
| emagana | I have not received anything else. | 19:06 |
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| jproulx | I think it's in a good place. | 19:06 |
| emagana | I am really hoping this can be approved and finally we can move to the election process and the new UC members will start forming the agenda. | 19:07 |
| maishsk | jproulx: +1 | 19:07 |
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| emagana | BTW. The expected election in Feb time frame will be for only 2 seats in the UC (at least any of the current members wants to step down) | 19:07 |
| CarolBarrett | emangana: From reading the doc, it looks like there will only be WGs within the UC and not Teams too. Right? | 19:08 |
| emagana | During August/Sep we will have another election for the 3 seats that are allocated now (Shilla, jproulx and emagana) | 19:08 |
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| emagana | CarolBarrett: In the bylaws we will leave it open to the UC to decide and that can be change in the Charter | 19:09 |
| maishsk | So are we now moving the work into the review for submission? | 19:09 |
| emagana | Right now in the UC Charter we have both, WG and Teams. | 19:10 |
| emagana | maishsk: Yes. Well, I want that at least somebody has an objection. | 19:10 |
| mrhillsman | we are only focusing on the bylaws right now right? | 19:10 |
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| emagana | BTW. Thank you so much for your help on the UC Charter maishsk I added most of your suggestions and it looks way better | 19:10 |
| CarolBarrett | emagana: Then I think you should update 4.14 (c) to include Teams and define the difference | 19:10 |
| emagana | If we do that CarolBarrett. We will need to have a very clear definition of WG vs Teams | 19:11 |
| maishsk | I had a about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/404318/5/reference/charter.rst@25 | 19:11 |
| emagana | Think about WG as a generic name for people to work together. | 19:11 |
| emagana | We can internally name them whatever we want | 19:11 |
| maishsk | Do we really need to mention termination - specifically? | 19:12 |
| emagana | Does that make sense CarolBarrett? | 19:12 |
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| emagana | Let me check your suggestion maishsk | 19:12 |
| CarolBarrett | Personally, I don't see why we need 2 different types of groups - but it seems in the other UC discussions that other people do and there is a desire to have both. | 19:12 |
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| CarolBarrett | If that's going to be the direction, then I think clear definitions of them are good. | 19:12 |
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| emagana | I understand but we can have that definition in the charter instead of in the bylaws. The suggestion from the BoD and the Layer is that we should be more generic in the bylaws instead of very specific. | 19:13 |
| emagana | in the charter we can be more specific | 19:13 |
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| mrhillsman | +1 | 19:13 |
| emagana | because changing charter is up to UC | 19:13 |
| emagana | and changing bylaws, well you can see how painful it is | 19:14 |
| maishsk | Also I made some other suggestions regarding the stating explicity that only two members will be elected this cycle (for 1 year) with the 3 current members continuing for another 6 months - and the cycle would continue. | 19:14 |
| emagana | maishsk: It was recommended to define how a UC member will terminate its relation or position. | 19:14 |
| CarolBarrett | emagana: yes, changing bylaws is painful. | 19:14 |
| docaedo | I also agree, distinction and definition of WG vs. Team would be best in charter, where it's easier to adjust | 19:14 |
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| docaedo | also doesn't seem like it would have a tremendous impact on the work - more like window dressing | 19:15 |
| emagana | maishsk: What was exactly your suggestion maishsk for the election cycles? | 19:15 |
| CarolBarrett | In the election section, I see where it talks about elections every 6 months, after the initial election, but not that only half of the UC is elected in each 6 month election. Is that still the plan? | 19:15 |
| emagana | I do agree docaedo | 19:15 |
| CarolBarrett | maishsk: +1 | 19:15 |
| maishsk | Initial committee | 19:15 |
| maishsk | ============ | 19:15 |
| maishsk | The current UC will serve as UC until the elections in Spring 2017. At that point, the current three UC members who still had 6 months to serve get a 6-month seat, and an election is run to determine the other two members. Candidates ranking 1st and 2nd would get one-year seats. Fall 2017 elections should see the normal renewal of 3 seats. | 19:15 |
| emagana | CarolBarrett: Yes, that is the plan | 19:16 |
| jproulx | CarolBarrett: that is the plan | 19:16 |
| Rockyg | well, if we want to describe them in charter, should we use a more generic, inclusive term for the groups/teams in the byloaws? | 19:16 |
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| mrhillsman | +1 Rockyg | 19:16 |
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| CarolBarrett | emagana, jproulx: Is that called out in the election section? | 19:17 |
| emagana | Rockyg: We received feedback from the BoD that Working Groups are generic enough without making them exclusive to UC, we have WG that do not belong to UC | 19:17 |
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| emagana | CarolBarrett and maishsk: I am getting a bit lost here. | 19:17 |
| Rockyg | emagana, I was thinking more along the lines of teams vs working groups, but if wgs include teams, then ok | 19:18 |
| emagana | Rockyg: Yes! | 19:18 |
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| maishsk | emagana: there are number of suggestions that I dont think made it into the review | 19:18 |
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| emagana | maishsk: Correct, I made a call on what could be added and what could not but I am not perfect, this is why we are here. | 19:19 |
| emagana | Anyway, it seems that we are talking about charter. | 19:19 |
| jproulx | CarolBarrett: maybe we could be more explicit but a term of 1yr with elections every 6month results in the partial reelection cycle we want | 19:19 |
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| emagana | Let's move the topic to UC charter then, ok? | 19:19 |
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| maishsk | ;) | 19:19 |
| maishsk | works for me | 19:20 |
| emagana | #topic Proposed charter changes (to match proposed bylaws) | 19:20 |
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| emagana | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/404318/ | 19:20 |
| CarolBarrett | emagana, jproulx: The TC charter says: The TC is composed of 13 directly-elected members. It is partially renewed using elections every 6 months. | 19:20 |
| emagana | Before we discuss about it. | 19:20 |
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| emagana | The idea behind this patch is to provide support to the by-law changes and we can modify it whenever we feel that we need it. Obviously, the less we touch it the better | 19:21 |
| emagana | OK, now let's get into the feedback. | 19:21 |
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| emagana | Basically, it seems that you want to add a section about the initial committee, correct? | 19:22 |
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| maishsk | emagana: correct | 19:22 |
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| emagana | and you are proposing: | 19:23 |
| emagana | The current UC will serve as UC until the elections in Spring 2017. At that point, the current three UC members who still had 6 months to serve get a 6-month seat, and an election is run to determine the other two members. Candidates ranking 1st and 2nd would get one-year seats. Fall 2017 elections should see the normal renewal of 3 seats. | 19:23 |
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| shamail | o/ | 19:23 |
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| emagana | hi shamail | 19:23 |
| shamail | hi emagana, sorry for being late. | 19:23 |
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| CarolBarrett | emagana: +1 | 19:23 |
| maishsk | I think that filling vacated seats - should also be mentioned | 19:23 |
| jproulx | CarolBarrett would you like to add that phrasing from TC charter in that paragraph as well? | 19:24 |
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| emagana | who is in favor of adding the Initial committee section? | 19:24 |
| jproulx | +1 | 19:24 |
| emagana | I am actually! | 19:24 |
| maishsk | So the question is - if by stating specifically 5 members - is that limiting the charter in the future? | 19:24 |
| emagana | +1 | 19:24 |
| shamail | +1 | 19:24 |
| maishsk | +! | 19:24 |
| maishsk | +1 | 19:24 |
| emagana | maishsk: Yes and No. | 19:25 |
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| emagana | The idea is that UC by feedback of the community will decide when extend the number of seat from 5 to something else | 19:25 |
| emagana | is totally under the power of the UC | 19:25 |
| jproulx | So in the charter I think we do say howmany specificly, then teh UC can ammend the chardter later so long as it doesn't conflict with the 5 minimum specification in the by-laws | 19:25 |
| emagana | No BoD needed for that | 19:25 |
| Rockyg | +1 | 19:25 |
| emagana | jproulx: yes! | 19:26 |
| shamail | The charter is a UC governed document right? We are hoping to change by-laws only once and then change count (if needed) at the UC’s discretion to make changes to charter | 19:26 |
| jproulx | yeah what emagana said | 19:26 |
| emagana | Ok. Good number of people wants the Inital Committee section, I will add it to the commit today. | 19:26 |
| maishsk | so then +1 on CarolBarrett ’s addition | 19:26 |
| emagana | #action emagana add the "initial committee" section in the gerrit review | 19:26 |
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| emagana | You are so quick for me.. | 19:27 |
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| emagana | OK, CarolBarrett addition was? | 19:27 |
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| CarolBarrett | jproulx: I think the way emagana wrote it would be fine | 19:27 |
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| shamail | emagana: On line 19, do we want to state any sort of timeframe for the first election? It doesn’t have to be a date but maybe a deadline? | 19:27 |
| maishsk | “The TC charter says: The TC is composed of 13 directly-elected members. It is partially renewed using elections every 6 months.” | 19:28 |
| shamail | or change it from “first election” to just “UC elections" | 19:28 |
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| maishsk | Are we missing a section about elections? | 19:28 |
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| shamail | whoa. | 19:28 |
| emagana | I see your point shamail | 19:28 |
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| emagana | I will fix that inital election, I think we should be more generic. | 19:29 |
| maishsk | I took this from the TC charter | 19:29 |
| Rockyg | shamail, yeah, nasty split | 19:29 |
| emagana | LOL | 19:29 |
| maishsk | Election for UC seats | 19:29 |
| maishsk | =============== | 19:29 |
| maishsk | The allotted number of UC seats are partially renewed every 6 months using staggered elections: the minority number of seats are renewed every (Northern hemisphere) Spring, and the majority number of seats are renewed every Fall. Seats are valid for one-year terms. For this election we’ll use a single-winner election system. The election is held no later than 3 weeks prior to each OpenStack Summit, with elections held open for no less than four | 19:29 |
| maishsk | business days. | 19:29 |
| shamail | sounds good… +1 this document should not have any time-bound items since its a charter/living document… we should refer to everything as if it was established | 19:29 |
| CarolBarrett | +2 | 19:30 |
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| Rockyg | And relative for time so that a date slip can be handled as an exception rather than a charter change | 19:31 |
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| emagana | Who is in favor of adding the "Election for UC seats" section as described by maishsk | 19:31 |
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| emagana | BTW. I would like to rename it to "UC Election" | 19:32 |
| maishsk | +1 | 19:32 |
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| Rockyg | +1 | 19:32 |
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| shamail | emagana: +1 to maishsk’s description | 19:32 |
| jproulx | +1 | 19:32 |
| shamail | and to the title chhange you suggested | 19:32 |
| jproulx | +1 | 19:32 |
| emagana | Yes, I will also +1 that addition! | 19:32 |
| emagana | any -1 or -2? | 19:33 |
| emagana | speak now or.. you know the rest | 19:33 |
| shamail | I have a small nit on line 41, that one should have the automated script and also state “<currently manually calculated for non-IRC WGs>" | 19:33 |
| maishsk | The titles are not etched in stone - so feel free to rename - I think the content is what counts | 19:33 |
| emagana | could you add that directly in gerrit shamail | 19:33 |
| emagana | ? | 19:33 |
| shamail | sure | 19:33 |
| emagana | ok.. let's go for it. | 19:34 |
| emagana | #action shamail to add suggestion in gerrit | 19:34 |
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| docaedo | (late, but +1 for "UC Election" section) | 19:34 |
| emagana | #action emagana to include "UC Election" in gerrit review for Uc charter | 19:34 |
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| emagana | awesome feedback folks! | 19:34 |
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| emagana | What else in the UC Charter? | 19:35 |
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| emagana | BTW. Anything minor or simple, just go directly and add your review in gerrit. | 19:35 |
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| maishsk | The last one was | 19:35 |
| emagana | #action All should provide your +1 to the charter, that will help for tomorrow's decision on the bylaws | 19:36 |
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| maishsk | Filling Vacated UC Seats | 19:36 |
| maishsk | Again taken from the TC charter. | 19:36 |
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| maishsk | If a seat on the UC is vacated before the end of the term for which the member was elected, the UC will select a replacement to serve out the remainder of the term. The mechanism for selecting the replacement depends on when the seat is vacated relative to the beginning of the candidacy period for the next scheduled UC election. Selected candidates must meet all other constraints for membership in the UC. | 19:36 |
| maishsk | If the vacancy opens less than four weeks before the candidacy period for the next scheduled UC election begins, and the seat vacated would have been contested in the upcoming election anyway, then the seat will remain open until the election and filled by the normal election process. | 19:37 |
| maishsk | If the vacancy opens less than four weeks before the candidacy period for the next scheduled UC election begins and the seat would not have been contested in the upcoming election, the candidates who do not win seats in the election will be consulted in the order they appear in the results until a candidate who is capable of serving agrees to serve out the partial term. | 19:37 |
| maishsk | If the vacancy opens with more than four weeks until the candidacy period for the next scheduled UC election begins, regardless of whether the vacated seat would have been contested in the next election, the candidates who did not win seats in the most recent previous UC election will be consulted in the order they appear in the results until a candidate who is capable of serving agrees to serve out the partial term. | 19:37 |
| shamail | emagana: When will you be able to incorporate these new changes/suggestions? I will go ahead and check the status tonight and +1 | 19:37 |
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| emagana | shamail: I will work on them right after this meeting. | 19:37 |
| shamail | awesome | 19:37 |
| jproulx | maishsk: +1 for copy paste of TC stuff as written | 19:38 |
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| shamail | maishsk: +1 | 19:38 |
| emagana | maishsk: That part was intentionally left out. Let me give you my reasons. It just a bit complicated to do replacements | 19:38 |
| Rockyg | +1 | 19:38 |
| mrhillsman | bah, lost all my interwebs :( | 19:38 |
| shamail | welcome back mrhillsman | 19:38 |
| emagana | I rather wait for the next election (no more that 6 months) | 19:38 |
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| emagana | that making an internal process to select somebody! | 19:39 |
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| emagana | As UC Team we will learn from our internal process and adjust as needed. | 19:39 |
| maishsk | The only problem with that - is that it could cripple any decisions (if they are not agreed by all UC members) | 19:40 |
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| jproulx | 6 months is a long time to be down one person on a body of 5, also having an even number of people complicates things | 19:40 |
| Rockyg | The team *is* starting out pretty small.... | 19:40 |
| emagana | maishsk: Let me be optimistc and trust that UC members will behave and always agree :-) | 19:40 |
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| docaedo | I agree on waiting for next election to replace | 19:41 |
| mrhillsman | hehe | 19:41 |
| maishsk | That is something we can be optimistic about | 19:41 |
| docaedo | way better than trying to come up with a process (and if the UC is down a seat, things will keep on functioning) | 19:41 |
| maishsk | but we also need to be realistic - anything that does not have a majority vote - does not pass | 19:41 |
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| jproulx | I don't take a strong position either way, but the actual process layed out in all those words isn't very complex, just go down the list from the last election until someone says yes | 19:42 |
| emagana | So far, Shilla, Jon and I have been working very nicely and we were appointed not elected. I will assume that elected members will be even more participative. | 19:42 |
| maishsk | emagana: why would you rather wait? | 19:42 |
| maishsk | jproulx: +1 | 19:42 |
| emagana | because I dont want as a current UC member to have to "SELECT" someone | 19:42 |
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| jproulx | well that's why the process is there it's not really a choice | 19:43 |
| emagana | ahhh jproulx that is a bit different | 19:43 |
| shamail | There is also the section already stating what to do when a disagreement happens... worst case is that could be invoked if needed although generally I see UC staying functional on its own even if down a member | 19:43 |
| Rockyg | emagana, take a look at what is happening in the projects right now...lots of core resignations because of job reassignments. What if the UC goes down 2 members? | 19:43 |
| mrhillsman | i would think it should stay functional and there is currently a process to resolve splits right? | 19:44 |
| emagana | Yes, it should but I can see both points. | 19:44 |
| maishsk | mrhillsman: splits mean - the motion does not pass - by default | 19:44 |
| maishsk | there must be a majority | 19:44 |
| maishsk | (and rightfully so) | 19:45 |
| emagana | I just do not want to give the power of the UC to select randomly someone but if we follow line by line the replacement process, we should be fine. | 19:45 |
| maishsk | emagana: it is not random | 19:45 |
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| emagana | maishsk: Yes, I see that. | 19:45 |
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| maishsk | If the vacancy opens less than four weeks before the candidacy period for the next scheduled UC election begins and the seat would not have been contested in the upcoming election, the candidates who do not win seats in the election will be consulted in the order they **appear in the results** until a candidate who is capable of serving agrees to serve out the partial term. | 19:46 |
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| emagana | ok, checking on time and based on the discussion. I want to know who is in favor or adding "Filling Vacated UC Seats" section. | 19:46 |
| * jproulx becomes more strongly in favor of that language | 19:46 | |
| mrhillsman | in favor | 19:47 |
| emagana | +1 I am with the proper language | 19:47 |
| shamail | +1 | 19:47 |
| emagana | aviosing to have to SELECT random people ;-) | 19:47 |
| Rockyg | +1 | 19:47 |
| mrhillsman | +1 | 19:47 |
| emagana | avioding* | 19:47 |
| mrhillsman | :) | 19:47 |
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| Rockyg | one day, emagana will learn how to spell... | 19:47 |
| jproulx | also if we loose someone and go below 5 we've violating the By laws yes? | 19:47 |
| docaedo | +1 | 19:47 |
| emagana | anyone not in favor! | 19:47 |
| * jproulx will never learn to spell | 19:48 | |
| maishsk | +1 | 19:48 |
| emagana | I know Rockyg everyday is worse! | 19:48 |
| emagana | LOL | 19:48 |
| emagana | ok.. done.. | 19:48 |
| emagana | #action emagana add a section in gerrit UC charter for "Filling Vacated UC Seats" | 19:48 |
| emagana | You folks are giving me a lot of work!!!!! | 19:48 |
| mrhillsman | you love it | 19:48 |
| shamail | Lol | 19:48 |
| emagana | Anything else on UC Charter? | 19:49 |
| maishsk | emagana: let me know if I can assist in any - I posted most of tha language in the review | 19:49 |
| jproulx | we talked about changing "at least 5" to "5" yes? | 19:49 |
| emagana | It should be very easy, just copy & paste :-) Thanks maishsk for the offer. | 19:49 |
| maishsk | :) | 19:49 |
| emagana | jproulx: Not exactly but I saw your comment in gerrit and I was planning to change it | 19:50 |
| jproulx | that's all I've got then | 19:50 |
| emagana | ok. next topic. | 19:50 |
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| emagana | #topic Open Discussion | 19:50 |
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| emagana | I want to bring something and it is basically a kind request | 19:51 |
| emagana | The BoD election for Individual Directors is open. I encourage you all to participate. | 19:51 |
| emagana | If anyone needs a nomination please reach out. | 19:51 |
| shamail | Nicely done on the bylaw changes and UC charter emagana, jproulx, and Shilla! | 19:52 |
| mrhillsman | +1 | 19:52 |
| maishsk | +1 | 19:52 |
| docaedo | definitely participate - there are some good candidates this round too! | 19:52 |
| emagana | Most importantly, support our fellow UC members in their election process. I know so far shamail and emagana will participate. But again, I want to invite everybody to give it a try! | 19:52 |
| Rockyg | Still on the fence | 19:53 |
| shamail | +1, glad to nominate as well | 19:53 |
| emagana | Thanks shamail! Great team effort, including you all! | 19:53 |
| CarolBarrett | +1 | 19:53 |
| emagana | Rockyg: Just let us know! | 19:53 |
| jproulx | Rockyg if you hop the fence I'll be happy to nominate.. | 19:53 |
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| emagana | That's all from me. Anyone else? | 19:54 |
| mrhillsman | if you do decide to run, send me an email as well and i will be glad to +1 you :) | 19:54 |
| Rockyg | Thanks all... | 19:54 |
| emagana | Rockyg rocks! | 19:54 |
| mrhillsman | mrhillsman@gmail if you do not know :) | 19:54 |
| emagana | mrhillsman: everybody knows you buddy ;-) | 19:54 |
| Rockyg | mrhillsman, yah, got that one ;-) | 19:55 |
| emagana | well.. I am going to start a new patch for the Uc charter. | 19:55 |
| mrhillsman | \o/ | 19:55 |
| shamail | Sounds good, see y'all later! | 19:55 |
| emagana | Thank you all for attending. I am so happy to see you all around. | 19:55 |
| emagana | ciao ciao! | 19:55 |
| mrhillsman | l8rs | 19:55 |
| maishsk | Thanks emagana and all for making the UC a more influencial body int he OpenStack Community | 19:55 |
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| maishsk | l8r | 19:55 |
| jproulx | thanks all! | 19:55 |
| docaedo | thanks! | 19:55 |
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| emagana | maishsk: It has been a team effort... Jon and Shilla and You All are the real thing! | 19:56 |
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| emagana | #endmeeting | 19:56 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Dec 5 19:56:25 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:56 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/uc/2016/uc.2016-12-05-19.02.html | 19:56 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/uc/2016/uc.2016-12-05-19.02.txt | 19:56 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/uc/2016/uc.2016-12-05-19.02.log.html | 19:56 |
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| Rockyg | thanks emagana and all! | 19:56 |
| CarolBarrett | Thanks | 19:57 |
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| zigo | ping zigo tlbr jamespage ddellav coreycb zul onovy | 21:28 |
| onovy | o/ | 21:28 |
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| zigo | If there's only u & me, that's useless ... | 21:29 |
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| zigo | We can as well just talk in our channel. | 21:29 |
| onovy | tlbr was interested in meeting too | 21:29 |
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| zigo | Maybe my bad for forgetting and being late. | 21:30 |
| onovy | give him few secs | 21:30 |
| zigo | yup | 21:31 |
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| tlbr | zigo, onovy i'm here | 21:39 |
| onovy | cool! | 21:39 |
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| onovy | i need two things: ocata branch + dfsg branches | 21:39 |
| zigo | #startmeeting deb_packaging | 21:40 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Dec 5 21:40:01 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is zigo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:40 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:40 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'deb_packaging' | 21:40 |
| zigo | #topic ocata branching | 21:40 |
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| tlbr | #chair zigo onovy tlbr | 21:40 |
| zigo | Before we do the branching, we need Ocata Debian repos. | 21:40 |
| zigo | That would be done by some reprepro commands, which I have no experience doing. | 21:41 |
| zigo | tlbr: Do you have some (at least basic) knowledge on how to operate reprepro? | 21:41 |
| tlbr | zigo, just basic. I used it for own repos creation | 21:41 |
| tlbr | but anyway, i can work on it | 21:41 |
| * onovy never used it | 21:41 | |
| zigo | I never used it either. | 21:42 |
| zigo | tlbr: Can you research what type of command we should do to create the new repo, and import all packages from Newton there? | 21:42 |
| tlbr | i can use examples from our jobs at perestroika | 21:42 |
| zigo | Ok. | 21:42 |
| tlbr | zigo, ok, i'll do it | 21:42 |
| tlbr | i have one week ? | 21:42 |
| zigo | Once that's done, I have some basic scripts to create the Ocata branches. | 21:42 |
| tlbr | ok | 21:42 |
| zigo | tlbr: I'm not in a hurry ... :P | 21:43 |
| tlbr | :) | 21:43 |
| zigo | tlbr: Currently, I care what will end up in Stretch. | 21:43 |
| tlbr | zigo, ok, got it | 21:43 |
| * onovy too | 21:43 | |
| tlbr | i'll participate in there too | 21:43 |
| tlbr | another topic ? | 21:44 |
| zigo | tlbr: Here's the script: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/394513/ | 21:44 |
| zigo | Yeah, another topic | 21:44 |
| tlbr | great | 21:44 |
| onovy | zigo: you have my -1 review on it | 21:44 |
| zigo | onovy: Yup, didn't have time to work on that, and that's not what is important. | 21:45 |
| onovy | yep | 21:45 |
| zigo | onovy: What's important is the missing bits with the gerrit API calls. | 21:45 |
| zigo | That, I'm really not sure how to deal with it. | 21:45 |
| zigo | Anyways... | 21:45 |
| zigo | #topic bug fixing for Newton & Stretch | 21:45 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bug fixing for Newton & Stretch (Meeting topic: deb_packaging)" | 21:45 | |
| zigo | This one worries me: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=844921 | 21:46 |
| openstack | Debian bug 844921 in src:python-django-compressor "python-django-compressor: FTBFS: Tests failures" [Serious,Open] | 21:46 |
| zigo | I upgraded to 2.1, but bugs still remain. | 21:46 |
| zigo | Could we get someone to help there? | 21:46 |
| zigo | Also this one: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=846749 | 21:46 |
| openstack | Debian bug 846749 in src:cinder "cinder: FTBFS: Test failures" [Serious,Open] | 21:46 |
| zigo | If I'm right, this last one is a SQLAlchemy 1.1.x issue. | 21:47 |
| zigo | Maybe we should ping zzzeeek about it. | 21:47 |
| onovy | zigo: ondrej is working on some of this bugs | 21:47 |
| onovy | not sure about progress | 21:47 |
| onovy | and not sure which bugs :) | 21:47 |
| zigo | onovy: As in, your colleague ? | 21:47 |
| onovy | i just told him: Fix bugs you understand | 21:47 |
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| onovy | yep, Ondrej Koblizek, my colleague | 21:47 |
| zigo | ok | 21:47 |
| onovy | but not sure if he is working on cinder | 21:48 |
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| onovy | filter is: Fix all RC bugs first | 21:48 |
| tlbr | https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=842072 | 21:48 |
| zigo | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/sqla-1.1-transition <--- That's what I investigated and saw as broken. | 21:48 |
| openstack | Debian bug 842072 in murano-common "murano-common: unowned files after purge (policy 6.8, 10.8): /etc/murano/murano-cfapi.conf" [Important,Open] | 21:48 |
| tlbr | https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=842075 | 21:48 |
| openstack | Debian bug 842075 in glare-common "glare-common: unowned directories after purge: /var/lib/glance, /var/lib/glance/*, /var/log/glance" [Important,Open] | 21:48 |
| onovy | zigo: yep, already uploaded few of that packages | 21:48 |
| zigo | Version 1.1.4 should have fixed some of the issues. | 21:48 |
| zigo | 1.1.4 of SQLA, that is. | 21:48 |
| onovy | good news: new sqla doesn't have << 1.2 | 21:48 |
| zigo | tlbr: These are trivial to fix. | 21:48 |
| tlbr | zigo, 842075 should be discussed | 21:49 |
| tlbr | as glance could be in both packages =( | 21:49 |
| tlbr | what is the best way to fix it ? | 21:49 |
| onovy | split that directory | 21:49 |
| zigo | tlbr: I'm tempted to ask for the removal of Glare from Debian, really... | 21:49 |
| onovy | (just my two cents) | 21:49 |
| tlbr | and depend on glance common ? | 21:49 |
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| zigo | tlbr: Is there still an upstream for Glare ? | 21:50 |
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| tlbr | zigo, yep, Mike still supports it, even after he left the company | 21:50 |
| zigo | tlbr: Is he employed by another company that wants it, or its only on his free time? | 21:50 |
| tlbr | zigo, free time | 21:50 |
| onovy | does it matter at all? | 21:50 |
| onovy | why should glare package write to /var/lib/glance? | 21:51 |
| tlbr | app catalog requires Glare | 21:51 |
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| onovy | that package should write to /var/lib/glare | 21:51 |
| zigo | tlbr: Then I would still lean toward removing the package from Debian. | 21:51 |
| tlbr | zigo, ok | 21:51 |
| onovy | zigo: will you remove swauth too? | 21:51 |
| zigo | tlbr: When you say "app catalog", do you mean murano ? | 21:51 |
| onovy | because i'm working on it 'in free time' too | 21:52 |
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| onovy | :) | 21:52 |
| tlbr | zigo, no, 1 min | 21:52 |
| tlbr | zigo, http://apps-dev.openstack.org/ | 21:52 |
| zigo | onovy: That's different, swauth is probably mature, but glare is currently tightly coupled with Glance and is on its early stage. | 21:52 |
| onovy | if it's just 'beta' / not working, remove it | 21:53 |
| tlbr | it works | 21:53 |
| onovy | but if only problem is in /var/lib directory... | 21:53 |
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| tlbr | no beta anymore | 21:53 |
| onovy | we should fix packages | 21:53 |
| tlbr | ok | 21:53 |
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| zigo | onovy: I'm just not confident to keep it for Stretch at least. | 21:53 |
| zigo | Keep it in Debian for a while, and see what happens, why not. | 21:53 |
| onovy | to be honest, i don't know what glare is | 21:53 |
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| onovy | so it's up to you guys :] | 21:54 |
| tlbr | ok | 21:54 |
| zigo | onovy: It's an artefact repo ! :P | 21:54 |
| onovy | just don't understand why should glare write to glance directory | 21:54 |
| zigo | To be honest, I still don't get why it had to be separated from Glance. | 21:54 |
| onovy | and if it should, why on another user | 21:54 |
| tlbr | glance_store does it | 21:54 |
| tlbr | on which it depends | 21:54 |
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| onovy | so glance_store should remove that directory | 21:54 |
| onovy | and user should be created by glance_store | 21:54 |
| zigo | onovy: And probably create it too... | 21:55 |
| onovy | yep | 21:55 |
| tlbr | ok, so lets move all the login to glance_store | 21:55 |
| tlbr | *logic | 21:55 |
| onovy | have one login, one directory, one package | 21:55 |
| zigo | Since I'm not a Mirantis employee, I also don't really care for Glare. | 21:55 |
| onovy | and depend on this package | 21:55 |
| zigo | I got to offload a little bit... | 21:55 |
| onovy | zigo: if it's not important now, just keep RC bug | 21:55 |
| onovy | and don't have it in stretch, fix later | 21:55 |
| zigo | ok | 21:56 |
| tlbr | may I remove debconf from it ? | 21:56 |
| zigo | tlbr: If you want to keep it in Debian, please don't. | 21:56 |
| tlbr | zigo, ok | 21:56 |
| tlbr | zigo, we're still catching bugs with debconf( | 21:56 |
| tlbr | config files are still being modified | 21:57 |
| tlbr | we should somehow fix it | 21:57 |
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| zigo | tlbr: I can fix that if you want me to. | 21:57 |
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| tlbr | zigo, that would be great! | 21:57 |
| zigo | I prefer doing that work, rather than getting the work removed. | 21:57 |
| zigo | Ok, will do then. | 21:57 |
| tlbr | thanks | 21:57 |
| tlbr | another topic ? | 21:58 |
| zigo | I'm done for tonight. | 21:58 |
| onovy | no! | 21:58 |
| onovy | dfsg branches | 21:58 |
| zigo | Ah... | 21:58 |
| onovy | :) | 21:58 |
| onovy | i CAN'T update os-api-ref | 21:58 |
| onovy | for stretch | 21:58 |
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| zigo | Well, we still need help from someone in #openstack-infra to do the correct setup. | 21:58 |
| onovy | infra told me: create new job for that branch | 21:58 |
| onovy | a disable others for that branch | 21:59 |
| zigo | It's been a littlbe bit furstrating chatting with fungi who as advising to do something else than what we need, and didn't help even if he knew how. | 21:59 |
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| zigo | New job? | 21:59 |
| onovy | they told me: don't create 'noop' job | 21:59 |
| onovy | create something usefull | 21:59 |
| zigo | Ah... | 21:59 |
| onovy | for example something, which will check something | 21:59 |
| onovy | o explained, there is almost nothing to check | 22:00 |
| zigo | But then, how to run a job depending on the branch? | 22:00 |
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| zigo | That's the info that I don't have ... | 22:00 |
| onovy | zigo: jobs.xml should do it | 22:00 |
| fungi | well, we can't reuse the generic "noop" job because it's only for projects which run no jobs at all | 22:00 |
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| onovy | fungi: yep, that's what you told me :) | 22:00 |
| zigo | Oh ! :) | 22:00 |
| zigo | fungi: Thanks, *now* I get it. | 22:00 |
| onovy | create new job, ideally which do something | 22:00 |
| fungi | you could have a job which just does nothing for that branch, but might as well have it do something instead if it's going to cause a worker to get assigned anyway | 22:00 |
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| onovy | but if we can't check anything, create new deb-noop | 22:00 |
| onovy | right? | 22:01 |
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| fungi | right | 22:01 |
| zigo | Ok, got it. | 22:01 |
| zigo | fungi: Then what's the way to say "master-dfsg" -> please do deb-noop. | 22:01 |
| zigo | Others, please do pkg-build-package... | 22:01 |
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| fungi | you could always replace it with a useful job later for example (like the one you described that checks that the changes proposed are the kind of changes you're expecting for that branch) | 22:01 |
| onovy | yep, it should be something like deb-dfsg-branch | 22:02 |
| onovy | and for now: exit 0 | 22:02 |
| onovy | later: did you ONLY removed files? | 22:02 |
| zigo | fungi: How do the conditional bits look in the .yaml ? | 22:02 |
| fungi | zigo: well, that's where things get a little tricky (cinder's running into the same challenge with their driver fixes branch they want basically no testing on). you end up needing to blacklist all normal jobs for that branch by using a negative match branch regex in the zuul layout | 22:02 |
| docaedo | time check - you've got -2 minutes remaining :p | 22:02 |
| fungi | yeah, let's move this to #-infra | 22:03 |
| onovy | fungi: +1 | 22:03 |
| fungi | sorry app catalogue team! | 22:03 |
| zigo | Ok, thanks everyone. | 22:03 |
| onovy | zigo: please end meeting, and let's continue in -infra | 22:03 |
| zigo | #endmeeting | 22:03 |
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| onovy | thanks :) | 22:03 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Dec 5 22:03:22 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:03 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/deb_packaging/2016/deb_packaging.2016-12-05-21.40.html | 22:03 |
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| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/deb_packaging/2016/deb_packaging.2016-12-05-21.40.txt | 22:03 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/deb_packaging/2016/deb_packaging.2016-12-05-21.40.log.html | 22:03 |
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| docaedo | phew, now that we've taken over, anybody here for App Dev Enabling WG? | 22:04 |
| leong_ | o/ | 22:04 |
| dfflanders | g'day | 22:04 |
| vicdiaz | o/ | 22:04 |
| cbsterrett | Hi | 22:04 |
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| Patifa | hey | 22:04 |
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| docaedo | whoah everyone is here today! | 22:05 |
| CarolBarrett | Hi | 22:05 |
| vicdiaz | awesome | 22:05 |
| docaedo | Patifa: would you like to do the honors today? | 22:05 |
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| Patifa | sure | 22:05 |
| Patifa | #startmeeting app_ecosystem_wg | 22:06 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Dec 5 22:06:04 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Patifa. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 22:06 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 22:06 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'app_ecosystem_wg' | 22:06 |
| Rockyg | o/ | 22:06 |
| Patifa | Agenda can be found on our etherpad | 22:06 |
| Patifa | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/2016_Dec_5_App_Dev_Enablement | 22:06 |
| leong_ | hi all | 22:06 |
| docaedo | o/ | 22:06 |
| Patifa | hello all... good to see a full room for a change ;) | 22:06 |
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| dfflanders | 2017 is going to be an important year :) | 22:07 |
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| Patifa | #topic Improve developer.openstack.org | 22:07 |
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| vicdiaz | tell us more @dfflanders | 22:08 |
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| dfflanders | vicdiaz, anon dear sir, anon :) | 22:08 |
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| olaph | o/ | 22:09 |
| dfflanders | apologies for missing previous meeting (been on site visit in Sydney, planning summit activities), but wondering dif between audience for devleoper.openstack.org and openstack.org/appdev | 22:10 |
| Patifa | So I left the topic in the agenda, I was hoping we could discuss how to act on this since there was not a lot of traction since the summit - neither on the mailing list nor in the meetings | 22:10 |
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| Patifa | dfflanders that's a good point.. I'm not 100% sure each of those we should be thinkg about impriving... | 22:10 |
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| Patifa | Both or mentioned at the summit.. I don't have the history behind them | 22:11 |
| cbsterrett | Well developer.openstack.org has very little on it | 22:12 |
| cbsterrett | mostly just a list of SDK's | 22:12 |
| docaedo | we did have an action for reed from the summit "ACTION: Stefano to share on going effort to identify problems for developers" but I think that related to work they were doing at dreamhost so maybe it's still in progress | 22:12 |
| docaedo | developer.o.o does seem like a good resource page for folks developing apps intended to interact directly with openstack clouds | 22:13 |
| cbsterrett | http://www.openstack.org/appdev/ is somewhat flashy and polished, and has a link back to http://developer.openstack.org/ | 22:13 |
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| leong_ | oo/appdev is more on whitepaper, guidebook for AppDev, and it also refer/links to developer.openstack.org | 22:13 |
| docaedo | but I'm also not sure if there's a significantly different audience vs. what we are thinking about for openstack.org/appdev | 22:13 |
| dfflanders | +1 different audiences for each? | 22:13 |
| vicdiaz | same audience | 22:13 |
| CarolBarrett | I can't find a page at developer.openstack.org....? | 22:14 |
| Patifa | #link http://developer.openstack.org/ | 22:14 |
| vicdiaz | http://developer.openstack.org/ | 22:14 |
| leong_ | appdev seems more target on very specific app-dev audience.. however, developer.oo seems more generic for anyone who want to interact with openstack api (which can includes ops) | 22:14 |
| leong_ | that is my understanding and interpretation, correct me if i am wrong | 22:15 |
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| CarolBarrett | leong: I think that's a good read on it. I think most of the application developers will not use the OpenStack APIs | 22:16 |
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| docaedo | but in theory don't all developers need the same tools (at least potentially?) I want to make sure we don't make it harder for people to find info and resources | 22:16 |
| leong_ | carolbarrett, that would depends on the types of application to build | 22:16 |
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| leong_ | +1 for docaedo | 22:17 |
| vicdiaz | +1 | 22:17 |
| docaedo | My perspective is that there's a spectrum of devs we want to reach here, but if we can keep all the info in one place, it's going to be a lot easier | 22:17 |
| leong_ | i tends to agree in the direction of "converging" oo/appdev and developer.oo | 22:17 |
| Patifa | docaedo is openstack.org the landing page and http://developer.openstack.org/ is part of its content? | 22:18 |
| CarolBarrett | leong: +1 | 22:18 |
| Patifa | leong_ +1 | 22:18 |
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| docaedo | Patifa: actually I'm not even sure what links to developer.o.o ... | 22:19 |
| dfflanders | Worth noting the breadcrumb trail for getting to the o.o/appdev page which is: o.o > users > ISV and AppDev > o.o/appdev | 22:19 |
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| leong_ | dfflanders lol | 22:20 |
| docaedo | dfflanders: oh that's too easy to find, must be confusing people that land there accidentally... Need to bury that a few more levels! | 22:21 |
| Rockyg | ++1000 | 22:21 |
| dfflanders | indeed ;-) - having a history on these pages would be helpful.... a potential action for someone perchance to chase on the ML? | 22:22 |
| docaedo | haha actually it's not that bad, one click from main page. Just figure under "Users" might not be obvious, but it's not so terrible | 22:22 |
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| docaedo | still - not making much progress on actions here :/ Suggestions on things we can do to move this effort forward? | 22:24 |
| leong_ | speaking on that.. along the line, think openstack.org site itself also need a bit of change..:-) | 22:24 |
| dfflanders | Stefano should have a history? | 22:24 |
| Patifa | leong_ one lion at a time. | 22:25 |
| dfflanders | Also, perhaps if we do an audit of the content currently on both pages = divide and conquer with a little analysis of each in seperate groups <-- sorry thinking out loud | 22:25 |
| dfflanders | ^^please suggest amend to approach for analysis of each page? | 22:25 |
| leong_ | btw, oo/appdev also cover ISV | 22:26 |
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| Rockyg | reed, you around? | 22:27 |
| dfflanders | leong_, yes that's the main question I had re history, as if o.o/appdev is a splash page then it needs to be high level enough to talk to ISV appDev managers as well? | 22:27 |
| leong_ | i think we got some conversation about putting ISV related content at the oo/appdev almost a year back in the EWG with Kathy | 22:27 |
| * dfflanders memory jogged = Kathy will have history as well, she mentioned in Barcelona | 22:28 | |
| leong_ | i think it is better to check with Kathy before this WG to propose any changes to oo/appdev | 22:28 |
| Patifa | btw the link "tools & resources" under "why app developers are embracing openstack" takes you to http://developer.openstack.org/ | 22:29 |
| dfflanders | +1 (and Stefano) on the ML so we can have an open discussion on history and intention of these pages? | 22:29 |
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| docaedo | Patifa: thanks for finding that. *that* seems buried, since the info on developer.o.o is pretty useful and relevant | 22:30 |
| docaedo | big +1 to bringing this conversation to the mailing list | 22:30 |
| cbsterrett | Looking for SDK's also takes you there | 22:30 |
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| Patifa | I can make a site map, see what content is there so we can have a more productive conversation. dfflanders do you know if anyone would have that info in hand? | 22:32 |
| dfflanders | #agreed | 22:32 |
| dfflanders | Stefano, Kathy and Allison would be the points of contact | 22:32 |
| Patifa | Ok.. I'll contact them. | 22:33 |
| Patifa | #action Patifa - Create site map of current content | 22:33 |
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| dfflanders | Patifa, Perhaps encourage them to engage in convo via ML? | 22:33 |
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| Patifa | Works for me. | 22:34 |
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| Patifa | #action Patifa - start thread on ML about the current content and history. Engage Stephano, Kathy and Allisson | 22:35 |
| Patifa | how's that? | 22:35 |
| vicdiaz | looks good | 22:35 |
| dfflanders | Would also be good to get the PoV of Enterprise-WG re ISV audience | 22:35 |
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| dfflanders | is CarolBarrett or leong_ able to progress? | 22:36 |
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| CarolBarrett | I'm here - but don't understand the question | 22:37 |
| leong_ | dfflanders, can u clarify a bit on your Q | 22:37 |
| leong_ | progress on what? | 22:37 |
| dfflanders | for ISV audiences do they need a page to be represented/engaged and is o.o/appdev the right place for that, i.e. what does Entprise-WG think of o.o/app[dev? | 22:38 |
| Patifa | they have this: http://www.openstack.org/isv/ | 22:38 |
| Patifa | Again a link from o.o/appdev | 22:39 |
| dfflanders | me likes that page :) | 22:39 |
| CarolBarrett | I think there is a need for a page for OpenStack interoperable/compatible Commercial ISVs to be listed... | 22:39 |
| CarolBarrett | Other than that, I think the internal Enterprise App developers are the same as the broader app dev audience | 22:40 |
| leong_ | carolbarrett, we should bring that question up in tmr EWG meeting and clarify with Kathy | 22:40 |
| leong_ | unfortunately i have a training conflict and can't attend tmr EWG meeting | 22:40 |
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| CarolBarrett | leong: sounds good. | 22:41 |
| dfflanders | timecheck = 19min remaining. | 22:41 |
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| leong_ | along the line in this topic, i want to bring attention to this team about the EWG workload reference architecture work. | 22:42 |
| Patifa | action for you CarolBarrett? Check with Kathy there is a need for a page for OpenStack interoperable/compatible Commercial ISVs to be listed on the EWG meeting | 22:42 |
| leong_ | we are in the process/proposal to move the development of EWG workload reference architecture into github | 22:43 |
| Rockyg | leong_, ++ | 22:43 |
| leong_ | so potentially can be some inter-related content in this group (or oo/appdev or developers.oo | 22:43 |
| dfflanders | Patifa, in your sitemap it would be good to have something which shows all the pages related to cloud app people so we can know all the places where the various cloud app team audiences might land? | 22:43 |
| leong_ | for your references on the email: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/enterprise-wg/2016-December/000470.html | 22:44 |
| leong_ | #link EWG Workload Reference Architecture: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/enterprise-wg/2016-December/000470.html | 22:45 |
| Patifa | dfflanders my site map will be a mere reflection of what is there today. I was thinking about using it to help us define what is missing and where it should be. | 22:45 |
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| docaedo | Patifa: I would think Kathy might already have that? I expect foundation folks must keep that stuff around somehow/somewhere | 22:46 |
| dfflanders | Patifa, kewl, anything to help us see the overall picture of how we are engaging app dev is helpful to get us going. | 22:46 |
| Patifa | that's what I thought docaedo... | 22:46 |
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| dfflanders | Also FYI, I'm working on minting a new page for listing hackathons including a kit of resources for how to host a cloud app hackathon, scaffold is up, content forthcoming: https://www.openstack.org/community/events/openstackhackathons | 22:49 |
| dfflanders | ^^this page will eventually be owned by cloudAppHack-WG | 22:49 |
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| cbsterrett | leong: Do you have a specific ask, or is that just for reference | 22:50 |
| dfflanders | timecheck: 10min remaining | 22:50 |
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| Patifa | dfflanders and leong_ maybe the next step after evaluating what we have is to try to list what we'd like to have.. that is a discussion we can start right away on the ML | 22:50 |
| leong_ | sure patifa | 22:51 |
| Patifa | and hackathons as well as the workload reference is part of that content | 22:51 |
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| Patifa | docaedo do you want that AR, call for content? | 22:52 |
| Patifa | anyone else? | 22:52 |
| dfflanders | analysis work is good if timeboxed, but should be careful of yak shaving and make sure our objective is to sort either/both o.o/appdev and/or developer.o.o <-- minimum viable product then iterate. | 22:53 |
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| docaedo | Patifa: I can't take any ARs at the moment, plate over-full I think for a bit | 22:53 |
| docaedo | (I mean, I can take one and try to squeeze it in of course :p ) | 22:53 |
| Patifa | no problem. :D | 22:53 |
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| Patifa | 5 min | 22:54 |
| dfflanders | 5min | 22:54 |
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| dfflanders | snap! | 22:55 |
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| Patifa | #topic Working more closely with other related Working Groups | 22:55 |
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| Patifa | I started a doodle to find time to chat with the other leads but we don't seem to have a good date this week. I'll do another one with more weeks... | 22:56 |
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| Patifa | docaedo dfflanders CarolBarrett do you think we'll be able to meet before end of the year? should I keep trying or leave it to 2017 | 22:57 |
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| dfflanders | Patifa, do you think we could have the conversation directly on the ML? The timezone diff is going to be painful | 22:57 |
| docaedo | yeah this week is terrible for me but next week is more open (though after that I'm kind of planning to fade out for the year ;) ) | 22:57 |
| docaedo | +1 for mailing list | 22:57 |
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| docaedo | dfflanders: however, sadly, I find the members of user committee mailing list are not very great at engaging in conversation on the mailing list. Maybe we need to spice up the conversation a little bit | 22:58 |
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| leong_ | +1 on mailiing list | 22:58 |
| docaedo | I'm *great* at clickbait titles for subjects, perhaps that's the angle we need to take... | 22:58 |
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| dfflanders | can we get everyone to commit to engaging in a conversation on the ML, even if just +1/-1 ? | 22:58 |
| Patifa | +1 | 22:58 |
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| cbsterrett | +1 | 22:59 |
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| Patifa | but I was hoping to have a conversation with the leads... since we don't seem to be getting a lot of tracking on the ML latelly... | 22:59 |
| docaedo | I'll join in on the ML, regardless of schedule | 22:59 |
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| dfflanders | address your post in the ML to the leads, Dear Michael, Gonzaolo, Carol, etc. | 22:59 |
| docaedo | Patifa: maybe call those leads out specifically on the mailing list too? Maybe not terrible to say that you wanted to | 22:59 |
| docaedo | oh haha, yeah, do what dfflanders was typing! | 23:00 |
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| dfflanders | snap | 23:00 |
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| Patifa | hahaha... ok... another AR for me then | 23:00 |
| dfflanders | docaedo, Patifa can we get an action for all on meeting bot? | 23:00 |
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| dfflanders | we are at time. | 23:00 |
| Patifa | #action Patifa - Start conversation on ML about Working more closely with other related Working Groups - calling out WG leads | 23:01 |
| dfflanders | good to have a full house again, see y'all on the ML to talk website history soon ;-) | 23:01 |
| docaedo | (I'll let Patifa type that AR) | 23:01 |
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| docaedo | yep, looking forward to following along on the ML and chiming in | 23:01 |
| Patifa | #endmeeting | 23:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Dec 5 23:01:26 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 23:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/app_ecosystem_wg/2016/app_ecosystem_wg.2016-12-05-22.06.html | 23:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/app_ecosystem_wg/2016/app_ecosystem_wg.2016-12-05-22.06.txt | 23:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/app_ecosystem_wg/2016/app_ecosystem_wg.2016-12-05-22.06.log.html | 23:01 |
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| Patifa | tks everyone! | 23:01 |
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