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| thinrichs | Time for the Congress meeting | 00:01 |
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| thinrichs | #startmeeting CongressTeamMeeting | 00:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jun 30 00:01:56 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is thinrichs. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 00:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 00:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'congressteammeeting' | 00:02 |
| aimeeu | Hi! | 00:02 |
| ekcs | hi all | 00:02 |
| thinrichs | Hi all | 00:02 |
| masahito | hi all! | 00:02 |
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| thinrichs | ramineni can't attend today | 00:03 |
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| thinrichs | So I guess we're all here | 00:03 |
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| thinrichs | Agenda is... | 00:03 |
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| thinrichs | 1. Barcelona items | 00:03 |
| thinrichs | 2. Status | 00:03 |
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| thinrichs | Anything else? | 00:03 |
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| ekcs | nothing from me. | 00:04 |
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| masahito | me too | 00:04 |
| thinrichs | #topic Barcelona | 00:04 |
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| thinrichs | Did folks receive their discount code for registration? | 00:05 |
| aimeeu | Yep | 00:05 |
| masahito | yes | 00:05 |
| ekcs | yup. I’m signed up. | 00:06 |
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| thinrichs | Great. Just wanted to make sure everyone had what they needed. | 00:06 |
| thinrichs | Also, talk submissions are now open | 00:07 |
| thinrichs | Does anyone have ideas for submission? | 00:07 |
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| thinrichs | I feel we've been so focused on HA, etc. that we haven't spent much time on new applications that people would want to hear about | 00:09 |
| thinrichs | masahito: your talk in Austin was good for that reason. People could see what Congress is useful for. | 00:09 |
| masahito | oh, thanks | 00:10 |
| thinrichs | Well, let's all think about it | 00:10 |
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| masahito | yap. | 00:11 |
| thinrichs | #topic Status | 00:11 |
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| thinrichs | masahito: want to start? | 00:11 |
| masahito | yes. | 00:11 |
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| masahito | I have 2 updates. | 00:12 |
| masahito | 1. last 2 week I was in OPNFV summit and I prepared the demo in the summit. | 00:13 |
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| masahito | the slides about the talk and demo are available in here | 00:14 |
| masahito | #link https://wiki.opnfv.org/display/doctor | 00:14 |
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| masahito | oh, OPNFV is one of usecase for congress I'm working for now. | 00:15 |
| thinrichs | Cool! How'd the demo go? | 00:15 |
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| ekcs | nice! btw masahito I talked to wenjing about Conrgess and NFV because of your contact. | 00:15 |
| masahito | It was nice. | 00:15 |
| aimeeu | masahito: are you familiar with OPNFV's Copper project? | 00:15 |
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| masahito | ekcs: yeah, I met him. | 00:16 |
| masahito | aimeeu: I know the project name but I'm not good at the project now. | 00:16 |
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| aimeeu | masahito: I thought Copper integrated Congress into OPNFV | 00:17 |
| masahito | 2. I updated the patch for race condition of datasource creation | 00:17 |
| masahito | that's from my side | 00:18 |
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| thinrichs | masahito: thanks! | 00:19 |
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| thinrichs | aimeeu: last I heard Copper was doing gap-analysis and putting people on existing projects to fill those gaps | 00:20 |
| thinrichs | but it could have changed over the last year for sure | 00:20 |
| thinrichs | ekcs: want to go next? | 00:21 |
| aimeeu | thinrichs: bryan_att did a presentation on Copper with Congress at the OPNFV Summit last week. | 00:21 |
| masahito | aimeeu: yeah. I saw a talk that said Copper has already implemented Congress installer and had some concreat policy rules. | 00:21 |
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| thinrichs | aimeeu: what did the audience think of the talk? | 00:22 |
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| aimeeu | Unfortunately I wasn't there and haven't had a chance to actually talk to bryan_att, who is out of town on business again this week (and next week he's on vacation) | 00:23 |
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| aimeeu | bryan_att's slide deck is on the Copper page: https://wiki.opnfv.org/display/copper | 00:24 |
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| thinrichs | Cool! I'll have to take a look. | 00:25 |
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| thinrichs | Anything else on the OPNFV summit to discuss? | 00:26 |
| ekcs | great I guess we can talk to bryan_att when he’s around. | 00:26 |
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| thinrichs | ekcs: want to do a status update? | 00:27 |
| ekcs | thinrichs: yup. | 00:27 |
| ekcs | 1. Completed HA-spec up. #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/318383/ | 00:27 |
| patchbot | ekcs: patch 318383 - congress-specs - Support HT-HA deployments | 00:27 |
| ekcs | 2. Been manually looking through code to annotate things having to do with thread-safety. WIP here: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/335721/ | 00:27 |
| patchbot | ekcs: patch 335721 - congress - WIP - Thread-safety analysis | 00:27 |
| ekcs | It's a bit complex because so many things are blocking now. It's almost like the standard greenthread assumption that execution is not interrupted unless there is a block/yield is not very useful any more. I'll continue on and see. | 00:27 |
| ekcs | One question I haven't been able to find the answer to: does importutils.import_module(...) block? It seems like some imports block and others don't. Pls lmk if you happen to know the answer. | 00:27 |
| ekcs | That’s all from me. | 00:28 |
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| thinrichs | Those annotations look scary. So many are blocking | 00:31 |
| thinrichs | I guess in the API that's expected | 00:31 |
| thinrichs | since it's basically just a message router | 00:31 |
| thinrichs | Looks like the policy engine is pretty clean. Thankfully | 00:32 |
| ekcs | thinrichs: yea that’s expected in API. but in general lots of blocking everywhere. after some more work i’ll have a better picture of whether we should expect to be able to stamp of thread safety things with the current approach. | 00:33 |
| ekcs | thinrichs: hopefully, tho I haven’t finished agnostic =| | 00:34 |
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| thinrichs | I would expect agnostic and the datasources to be pretty clean, because of our pub/sub model. | 00:35 |
| ekcs | thinrichs: agreed. | 00:35 |
| thinrichs | Those bits aren't actively sending messages (at least in the code WE write) | 00:35 |
| masahito | I think some of methods in agnostic would be replaced with pub/sub call in the HA model. | 00:35 |
| thinrichs | masahito: I didn't think we were changing much in the HA model | 00:36 |
| thinrichs | for agnostic | 00:36 |
| thinrichs | (That's a question I asked in the work items on the spec, BTW) | 00:36 |
| thinrichs | Is agnostic needing to change for HA? | 00:36 |
| masahito | I thought local leader election needs a bit replacing. | 00:37 |
| thinrichs | I thought local leader was taken care of by the datasources | 00:38 |
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| thinrichs | ekcs: ^ | 00:38 |
| ekcs | right local leader logic is isolated in DSD. | 00:39 |
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| thinrichs | ekcs: does agnostic need to change (at all) for HA? | 00:39 |
| masahito | sorry, I was confused at we had some DSD for same datasource. | 00:39 |
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| ekcs | I expect most changes won’t need to touch agnostic. But rather made in the base classes. Not totally sure I can spend some time thinking through it. | 00:40 |
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| ekcs | it really comes down to which bits remain in agnostic.py. | 00:41 |
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| ekcs | main changes: sending execute_action (should be done in wrapper). | 00:41 |
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| ekcs | understanding joining a runnnig deployment. (should be done in wrapper?) | 00:42 |
| thinrichs | Does execute_action need to change at all? I would have thought it just sends the action to the name of the datasource as always. The datasource needs to change b/c it now gets 3 of those (1 from each PE), and ignores 2 of them. | 00:43 |
| ekcs | remembering action execution requests for not missing action. that’s an agnostic change. | 00:43 |
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| ekcs | thinrichs: I think the only change really needed is to make sure the receiving DSD can tell who the sender is. Not totally sure if that’s already in the infra or not. | 00:44 |
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| thinrichs | That sounds right to me, at least for version 0.1 of HA. Other stuff might need to be added later on. | 00:44 |
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| ekcs | I can spend some time teasing out which PE changes are in the dse level and which PE changes are an the agnostic level. | 00:45 |
| ekcs | it depends on the details a little bit. | 00:45 |
| thinrichs | I put a list of what I think we'd need in one of my comments on the spec. It didn't seem like there was a ton to do, actually. | 00:46 |
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| thinrichs | At least if we want 'at-most-once' semantics for action execution | 00:46 |
| thinrichs | i.e. just leader election on the DSDs to eliminate dups | 00:46 |
| thinrichs | So maybe take a look at that and see if it sounds right. | 00:47 |
| thinrichs | 13 min left | 00:47 |
| ekcs | yup the substantive things are not that many. | 00:47 |
| thinrichs | aimeeu: want to give us a status update? I see you pushed some code | 00:47 |
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| aimeeu | Sure. I've been trying to learn the code and learn Python at the same time, so my progress has been pretty slow. | 00:48 |
| aimeeu | I added the execute(...) method to PlexxiDriver and pushed the code. Thanks for the feedback. Pulled my hair out trying to get a unit test to work. | 00:49 |
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| thinrichs | That one was especially nasty. I couldn't tell what was wrong until I looked at the errors | 00:49 |
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| thinrichs | It was definitely tough for someone who hadn't worked on the datasources before | 00:50 |
| aimeeu | I'm getting more grey hair by the day! Today I was playing around with the CLI and command line to methods in the python client. Also picked up a bug there. | 00:50 |
| thinrichs | Cool! | 00:50 |
| aimeeu | It's challenging but fun. My real problem now is I haven't been able to get devstack to stack. Bah! | 00:50 |
| ekcs | thanks aimeeu! | 00:51 |
| thinrichs | That's a common problem. | 00:51 |
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| aimeeu | bryan_att set me up on one of his servers so I can play around with a Congress installation. | 00:51 |
| masahito | aimeeu: Great, I found some tiny bugs. do you need these? | 00:51 |
| ekcs | aimeeu: yea something always goes wrong. Feel free to ping me on irc with osmething it might be something I’ve seen. | 00:51 |
| aimeeu | masahito: Yes please!! | 00:51 |
| masahito | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/congress/+bug/1597243 | 00:52 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1597243 in congress "Policy Detail API returns 500 status codes in dse2" [Undecided,New] | 00:52 |
| aimeeu | ekcs: Great - I'll keep you in mind and try not to be a pest. ;) | 00:52 |
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| masahito | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/congress/+bug/1597555 | 00:52 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1597555 in congress "keystone_driver fails to poll user data" [Undecided,New] | 00:52 |
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| aimeeu | masahito: Excellent - thanks for those! | 00:53 |
| thinrichs | aimeeu: if you're using irc, definitely put our handles in so we get notified. There's not a ton of traffic on there usually, so if I don't get a notification I'll probably miss your request. | 00:53 |
| masahito | I think the 2 is not so difficult bugs :) | 00:53 |
| masahito | s/the 2 is/ the 2 bugs are/ | 00:54 |
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| ekcs | aimeeu: on the CLI maxwidth issue, it might be something on openstack CLI end not congress-client end. Just saying be aware that it may not be solvable. | 00:54 |
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| aimeeu | thinrichs: I noticed the IRC congress channel is pretty quiet, so I was wondering what the best way of contacting people if I have questions - I'll definitely put your handles in | 00:54 |
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| aimeeu | ecks: thanks for the tip. or it might be in the 3rd party library that formats the output | 00:55 |
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| aimeeu | cliff – Command Line Interface Formulation Framework is the library that formats output | 00:56 |
| thinrichs | FYI… The 503 bug is probably fixable just within Congress. Finding a problem in the keystone datasource will require finding a mismatch between the way the keystone client works and the way the Congress keystone datasource is using it. | 00:56 |
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| thinrichs | aimeeu: I'd try the IRC, and if that doesn't work, use the ML. | 00:56 |
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| aimeeu | thinrichs: thanks - I'll keep that in mind when I start work on that bug. | 00:57 |
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| thinrichs | We're spread out across the globe..masahito is in Japan, ramineni is in India, and ekcs and I are on the west coast in the US | 00:57 |
| ekcs | I’ll do a better job of being on IRC. It’s just easy to forget because my workplace blocks IRC =| I’m also reachable over email. | 00:57 |
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| thinrichs | 3 minutes left | 00:57 |
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| thinrichs | Quick status update from me. | 00:57 |
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| thinrichs | I pushed some patches on top of masahito's to get Congress running in 2 separate processes | 00:58 |
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| thinrichs | Seems to be working fine | 00:58 |
| thinrichs | 1 server is PE + API, and the other server is DSD | 00:58 |
| thinrichs | Manual tests from the CLI show that everything works as you'd expect | 00:59 |
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| thinrichs | To try it out yourself, there are instructions in the commit msg | 00:59 |
| thinrichs | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/307693/ | 00:59 |
| patchbot | thinrichs: patch 307693 - congress - Enable different deployment configurations for HA | 00:59 |
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| thinrichs | Out of time. I'll hangout in #congress for a few minutes if anyone wants to continue. | 01:00 |
| aimeeu | Thanks everyone | 01:00 |
| thinrichs | Thanks all! | 01:00 |
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| masahito | thanks | 01:01 |
| thinrichs | #endmeeting | 01:01 |
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| ekcs | thanks! | 01:01 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jun 30 01:01:23 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 01:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2016/congressteammeeting.2016-06-30-00.01.html | 01:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2016/congressteammeeting.2016-06-30-00.01.txt | 01:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2016/congressteammeeting.2016-06-30-00.01.log.html | 01:01 |
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| gmann | #startmeeting qa | 08:59 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jun 30 08:59:58 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gmann. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:59 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'qa' | 09:00 |
| gmann | hi who's here for today? | 09:00 |
| masayukig | o/ | 09:00 |
| itzkb_ | hi | 09:00 |
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| dmellado | \o | 09:00 |
| gmann | masayukig: dmellado itzkb_ hi | 09:00 |
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| gcheresh | hi | 09:01 |
| dmellado | hi everyone | 09:01 |
| masayukig | gmann : hi, thank you for hosting today :) | 09:01 |
| gmann | np | 09:01 |
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| gmann | let's start | 09:01 |
| gmann | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/QATeamMeeting#Agenda_for_June_30th_2016_.280900_UTC.29 | 09:01 |
| gmann | ^^ today agenda | 09:02 |
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| gmann | #topic Specs Reviews | 09:02 |
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| gmann | sorry let's first go through the Newton priority | 09:03 |
| gmann | #topic Newton Priorities | 09:03 |
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| masayukig | sure | 09:03 |
| gmann | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-qa-newton-priorities | 09:03 |
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| dmellado | no prob gmann | 09:03 |
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| gmann | first one Cleanup - andreaf | 09:04 |
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| andreaf | o/ | 09:04 |
| gmann | andreaf: any new update on this | 09:04 |
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| gmann | andreaf: nice timing | 09:04 |
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| dmellado | hi andreaf | 09:04 |
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| andreaf | gmann: not much on that yet | 09:05 |
| gmann | andreaf: ok | 09:05 |
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| gmann | andreaf: i think mostly like client variable renaming etc after client refactor BP right | 09:06 |
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| andreaf | gmann: right | 09:06 |
| gmann | k | 09:06 |
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| gmann | next openstack-health | 09:06 |
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| gmann | masayukig: your turn | 09:06 |
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| masayukig | sure, but there's not so much progress this time, actually.. | 09:07 |
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| masayukig | one thing is | 09:08 |
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| masayukig | added "likely bugs" link to launchpad on the top page | 09:09 |
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| gmann | masayukig: where exactly ? | 09:09 |
| masayukig | on http://status.openstack.org/openstack-health/#/ "Failed Tests in Last 10 Failed Runs" - "Likely Bugs" column | 09:10 |
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| masayukig | I think there's only '-' because no e-r bugs right now. | 09:11 |
| gmann | masayukig: nice | 09:11 |
| masayukig | that's all from me, so far. | 09:11 |
| gmann | masayukig: ok | 09:11 |
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| gmann | thanks | 09:12 |
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| gmann | next is Remaining CLI work | 09:12 |
| gmann | mtreinish: has patches up for review | 09:12 |
| gmann | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/tempest+branch:master+topic:bp/tempest-run-cmd | 09:13 |
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| gmann | i think nice progress on that | 09:13 |
| gmann | next Negative Test (chrishoge, oomichi) | 09:13 |
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| gmann | saw this patch for that - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/333618/ | 09:13 |
| patchbot | gmann: patch 333618 - tempest - Add guidance on negative tests in HACKING.rst (MERGED) | 09:13 |
| * gmann wow patchbot | 09:14 | |
| * masayukig also surprised :) | 09:14 | |
| gmann | in this i did not find much details about what is criteria of negative tests addition | 09:14 |
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| gmann | i think we discussed in Austin that, we need clear guidelines for those | 09:15 |
| dmellado | gmann: +1 | 09:15 |
| gmann | hope to see more patches from oomichi or Chris on that | 09:15 |
| dmellado | it's not really clear what would be the option to Tempest on that... | 09:15 |
| masayukig | gmann : +1 | 09:15 |
| gmann | dmellado: yea | 09:15 |
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| gmann | and that would not be easy to define the criteria but we should have something | 09:16 |
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| masayukig | gmann : agree | 09:17 |
| gmann | Next item is - tempest-lib/plugin (gmann) | 09:17 |
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| gmann | this one is more generic for lib interfaces | 09:17 |
| gmann | for service clients- | 09:17 |
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| gmann | image and identity v2 are moved in lib | 09:18 |
| gmann | oomichi: might release the version soon | 09:18 |
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| gmann | on identity v2 client, some of them we kept in tempest path also not to break neutron etc | 09:18 |
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| gmann | on release of those as lib interface we can remove those after fixing project using old path | 09:19 |
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| gmann | Next is Client Manager Refactor | 09:20 |
| gmann | andreaf: your turn | 09:20 |
| gmann | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/tempest+branch:master+topic:bp/client-manager-refactor | 09:20 |
| gmann | i think you updated those | 09:20 |
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| andreaf | gmann: yes | 09:22 |
| itzkb_ | gmann: Where can I find some explanation about this topic? | 09:22 |
| andreaf | gmann: the first patch merged - this one is ready https://review.openstack.org/#/c/326667/28 | 09:22 |
| patchbot | andreaf: patch 326667 - tempest - Factor up (most) CONF value in clients.Manager | 09:22 |
| gmann | andreaf: cool | 09:22 |
| gmann | itzkb_: you mean Newton priority or client refactor? | 09:23 |
| andreaf | gmann: I need still some work on the 2nd patch but I would like to get feedback on the general direction of the patches | 09:23 |
| andreaf | gmann: so reviews are welcome | 09:23 |
| itzkb_ | gmann: client refactor | 09:23 |
| gmann | great | 09:23 |
| gmann | itzkb_: spec link - https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/qa-specs/specs/tempest/client-manager-refactor.html | 09:24 |
| gmann | itzkb_: and on going patches | 09:24 |
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| gmann | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/tempest+branch:master+topic:bp/client-manager-refactor | 09:24 |
| itzkb_ | gmann: thanks | 09:24 |
| andreaf | itzkb_: what I'm working on is the client manager refactor, not the client refactor - I'm preparing a client manager that can be exposed as a stable interface to be used by plugins | 09:24 |
| gmann | itzkb_: and ping andreaf for more info :) | 09:24 |
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| dmellado | itzkb_: I told you about this, remember xD | 09:25 |
| gmann | andreaf: i will review those tomorrow | 09:25 |
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| itzkb_ | dmellado: yeah ,Just need to figure this out | 09:25 |
| gmann | and let's review and get those in or provide feedback | 09:25 |
| andreaf | itzkb_: atm most plugins use either manager.Manager or clients.Manager - but they are not stable interfaces | 09:25 |
| dmellado | andreaf: any plan to stabilize also the dynamic cred provider? | 09:26 |
| dmellado | manila guys were complaining about that | 09:26 |
| dmellado | that's why they 'pin' a tempest commit, which is quite annoying | 09:26 |
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| gmann | dmellado: complaining on interface change? | 09:26 |
| dmellado | complaining on tempest not providing stable enough interfaces | 09:26 |
| andreaf | dmellado: yes I've been working on that as well - but the dynamic creds provider uses clients which are not stable yet (identity) and the client manager | 09:27 |
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| dmellado | andreaf: I see, thanks for the update! | 09:27 |
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| andreaf | dmellado: but I already did a lot of cleanup work in that area already in mitaka times | 09:27 |
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| dmellado | andreaf: in any case I guess that'd be solve by having the tempest plugin on its own repo too | 09:28 |
| dmellado | but anyway, same war as always xD | 09:28 |
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| gmann | dmellado: yea, it will take time to get all required interfaces as stable | 09:29 |
| gmann | let's move on | 09:29 |
| gmann | #topic Specs Reviews | 09:30 |
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| gmann | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/qa-specs,n,z | 09:30 |
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| gmann | i saw a new one - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/314704/2/specs/other/policy-testing-on-apis.rst | 09:30 |
| patchbot | gmann: patch 314704 - qa-specs - Policy testing APIs | 09:30 |
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| gmann | seems like new project for policy things | 09:30 |
| gmann | mtreinish reviewed that seems. | 09:31 |
| gmann | i have not looked into the detail yet | 09:31 |
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| gmann | seems like testing tempest for all user roles and consider 403 as pass | 09:32 |
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| masayukig | seems interesting, I'll have a look | 09:32 |
| gmann | yea but thats like testing running tempest for all possible combination of policy.json | 09:33 |
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| gmann | but we cover all tests runs under different type of role like admin owner etc | 09:34 |
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| masayukig | ok | 09:34 |
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| gmann | but that can be benefit to capture if any API interacting with multiple service/backend and those have not been honoring the policy.json and have hard coded rule etc | 09:36 |
| gmann | just a thought | 09:36 |
| gmann | but let's review that | 09:36 |
| gmann | anything on spec from anyone | 09:36 |
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| gmann | ok. let's jump to next | 09:37 |
| gmann | #topic Tempest | 09:37 |
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| gmann | anything new from anyone? | 09:38 |
| gmann | i do not have any new to discuss on this | 09:39 |
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| masayukig | same here | 09:39 |
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| gmann | one was mtreinish removed the trove tests from tempest | 09:39 |
| gmann | and we left with Sahara, Heat and ironic now | 09:40 |
| gmann | good move | 09:40 |
| masayukig | yeah, is there a list for it? | 09:40 |
| tosky | sahara are in fact already moved, and now also on the CI too | 09:40 |
| dmellado | oh, hi tosky | 09:40 |
| dmellado | I was about to mention that ;) | 09:41 |
| masayukig | cool | 09:41 |
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| gmann | tosky: cool | 09:41 |
| gmann | Thanks :) | 09:41 |
| andreaf | tosky: so tests can be removed from tempest now? | 09:42 |
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| gmann | tosky: these one- https://github.com/openstack/tempest/tree/master/tempest/api/data_processing | 09:42 |
| tosky | yes, they can; I can put up a review if you want | 09:42 |
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| tosky | yes, those (see sahara-tests, under sahara_tenpest_plugin) | 09:43 |
| gmann | tosky: yea sure, will be nice to review | 09:43 |
| andreaf | tosky: that would be nice - we need to remove all references to sahara as well, you can look at the trove removal patch for reference | 09:43 |
| tosky | sure | 09:43 |
| gmann | tosky: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/302473/ | 09:44 |
| tosky | but also the client? | 09:44 |
| patchbot | gmann: patch 302473 - tempest - Remove trove tests from tempest (MERGED) | 09:44 |
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| gmann | tosky: yes | 09:44 |
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| tosky | uh, that one was not.moved | 09:44 |
| masayukig | please read http://docs.openstack.org/developer/tempest/test-removal.html when you remove tests :) | 09:44 |
| andreaf | #link: trove removal patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/302473/ | 09:44 |
| patchbot | andreaf: patch 302473 - tempest - Remove trove tests from tempest (MERGED) | 09:44 |
| gmann | tosky: you mean service clients are not moved? | 09:45 |
| tosky | yes | 09:45 |
| gmann | tosky: so Sahara plugin use the service clients from tempest. | 09:45 |
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| tosky | exactly - I wa waiting for.client stabilization | 09:46 |
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| tosky | what shoul I do then? Keep using the one in tempest for noe? | 09:48 |
| gmann | tosky: i feel you can move and later use client manager for registration as andreaf doing that | 09:48 |
| gmann | tosky: and till then use the manager class as other plugin doing as of now | 09:48 |
| andreaf | tosky, gmann: yes that would be nice - I can help out with using the new interface once it's ready | 09:49 |
| gmann | andreaf: great. | 09:49 |
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| gmann | tosky: shot a patch, we can help if anything missing | 09:49 |
| tosky | ok, let's talk post-meeting | 09:49 |
| tosky | thanks | 09:50 |
| gmann | tosky: cool, Thanks | 09:50 |
| gmann | I think we already discussed openstack-health | 09:50 |
| gmann | #topic Critical Reviews | 09:50 |
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| gmann | any key reviews to be done on priority? | 09:50 |
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| gmann | ok 8 min left | 09:52 |
| gmann | let's move to open | 09:52 |
| gmann | #topic open | 09:52 |
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| gmann | anything else to discuss than in agenda | 09:52 |
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| masayukig | so, https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Sprints/QAInfraNewtonSprint | 09:52 |
| dmellado | gmann: yep, from my side I've been trying to get some help on the class squash | 09:53 |
| dmellado | without that many success | 09:53 |
| gmann | dmellado: ohk, no prob | 09:53 |
| dmellado | I'll be going to the cycle and will try to get that done there | 09:53 |
| gmann | dmellado: cool | 09:53 |
| dmellado | mid-cycle | 09:53 |
| masayukig | I think we should put topics on the page. | 09:53 |
| masayukig | if we have | 09:53 |
| gmann | masayukig: ah nice catch :) | 09:54 |
| gmann | AI for oomichi | 09:54 |
| gmann | #action oomichi to add topic for mid-cycle | 09:54 |
| dmellado | also times | 09:54 |
| dmellado | ;) | 09:54 |
| gmann | but all are welcome to add their topic which you are going to work on those | 09:54 |
| gmann | dmellado: :) | 09:54 |
| dmellado | ;) | 09:55 |
| gmann | anything else or close the meeting | 09:55 |
| dmellado | fine for me | 09:56 |
| dmellado | thanks everyone! | 09:56 |
| masayukig | thanks! | 09:56 |
| gmann | Thanks all for joining. | 09:56 |
| gmann | #endmeeting | 09:56 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 09:56 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jun 30 09:56:38 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 09:56 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2016/qa.2016-06-30-08.59.html | 09:56 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2016/qa.2016-06-30-08.59.txt | 09:56 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2016/qa.2016-06-30-08.59.log.html | 09:56 |
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| mriedem | #startmeeting nova | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jun 30 14:00:15 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mriedem. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova' | 14:00 |
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| alaski | o/ | 14:00 |
| markus_z | o/ | 14:00 |
| diana_clarke | o/ | 14:00 |
| rlrossit | o/ | 14:00 |
| lyarwood | o/ | 14:00 |
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| edleafe | \o | 14:00 |
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| lbeliveau | o/ | 14:01 |
| woodster_ | o/ | 14:01 |
| andrearosa | hi | 14:01 |
| takashin | o/ | 14:01 |
| dansmith | o/ | 14:01 |
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| johnthetubaguy | o/ | 14:01 |
| mriedem | a flurry of activity in -nova | 14:01 |
| auggy | O/ | 14:01 |
| mriedem | let's get started | 14:01 |
| mriedem | #link agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova | 14:02 |
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| mriedem | #topic release news | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "release news (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:02 | |
| mriedem | #link Newton release schedule: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/Newton_Release_Schedule | 14:02 |
| mriedem | #info June 30: non-priority feature freeze (end of day today) | 14:02 |
| * alex_xu_ waves late | 14:02 | |
| andreykurilin | \o | 14:02 |
| lxsli | o/ | 14:02 |
| PaulMurray | o/ | 14:02 |
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| mriedem | I've already started deferring blueprints that were approved but never got started, or are blocked and won't make it. | 14:02 |
| mriedem | i think that dropped us from 100 to ~90 approved blueprints :) | 14:03 |
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| mriedem | We will probably have a small number of exceptions for things that are mostly merged, very close and already have core reviewer attention. Everything else will be deferred to Ocata. | 14:03 |
| johnthetubaguy | I just re-ran my old blueprint script, incase this helps: http://5885fef486164bb8596d-41634d3e64ee11f37e8658ed1b4d12ec.r44.cf3.rackcdn.com/release_status.html | 14:03 |
| mnestratov | o/ | 14:03 |
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| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: ok, i've been just doing it the old fashioned way on LP | 14:04 |
| mriedem | with ink and candel | 14:04 |
| mriedem | *candle | 14:04 |
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| mriedem | so we have 26 computed blueprints | 14:05 |
| johnthetubaguy | sorry, I forgot that thing existed | 14:05 |
| mriedem | soon to be a couple more completed this morning i think | 14:05 |
| mriedem | *completed blueprints | 14:05 |
| mriedem | so my informal plan was to really just see what gets done today | 14:05 |
| mriedem | and when the dust settles, start talking about exceptions tomorrow among the core team | 14:05 |
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| mriedem | questions? | 14:06 |
| dansmith | mriedem: that sounds good to me, I'm just goign to review all day | 14:06 |
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| mriedem | #topic bugs | 14:06 |
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| jaypipes | mriedem: I will do my best to follow orders from you and dansmith for reviewing. | 14:06 |
| johnthetubaguy | +1 from me | 14:06 |
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| danpb | mriedem: the deadline is tonight, right ? | 14:06 |
| mriedem | danpb: yeah | 14:07 |
| mriedem | danpb: more or less EOD for dansmith in pacific time | 14:07 |
| dansmith | woot | 14:07 |
| * dansmith holds the wand of doom | 14:07 | |
| danpb | i guess we should focus on non-priority BPs reviews really too | 14:07 |
| mriedem | dansmith and melwitt i should say :) | 14:07 |
| mriedem | danpb: that's all i've focused on really for the last 2 weeks | 14:07 |
| mriedem | so yeah | 14:07 |
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| dansmith | same | 14:07 |
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| mriedem | if review is just starting on a thing today, then it's probably not going to make it | 14:08 |
| mriedem | unless it's super trivial | 14:08 |
| mriedem | there were some one-off hyper-v bp changes i think when i looked last night | 14:08 |
| mriedem | anyway, bugs | 14:08 |
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| mriedem | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1597770 | 14:08 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1597770 in Ironic "Ironic grenade gate fails: Failed to allocate the network(s)" [Critical,Confirmed] | 14:08 |
| mriedem | ^ came up this morning | 14:08 |
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| mriedem | looks like a change that went in yesterday is breaking grenade for ironic | 14:09 |
| mriedem | there are some debug patches up | 14:09 |
| mriedem | to get a better idea of what's failing | 14:09 |
| mriedem | i think i know what's failing, but not sure why | 14:09 |
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| dansmith | mriedem: nothing to do with my change I hope? | 14:09 |
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| mriedem | dansmith: that's the one | 14:09 |
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| mriedem | https://github.com/openstack/nova/commit/e2eb6659a426bae05a54b93ebf31ff3247125258 | 14:09 |
| dansmith | really? | 14:10 |
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| mriedem | yeah, vif.create fails in neutronv2 api | 14:10 |
| mriedem | probably on a unique constraint failure with duplicate macs | 14:10 |
| mriedem | i have no idea why though | 14:10 |
| dansmith | hrm | 14:10 |
| markus_z | The quobyte CI has also troubles: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1597644 | 14:10 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1597644 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Permissioned denied on console.log during instance startup" [Undecided,New] | 14:10 |
| mriedem | we wouldn't have seen it since it's in the ironic grenade job, which we don't run | 14:10 |
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| dansmith | okay | 14:11 |
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| mriedem | markus_z: volume shelve test, sounds new, and sounds like something PaulMurray or paul-carlton or andrearosa might know about | 14:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, I wonder if the ironic grenade job is worthing running instead of our existing ironic job, longer term? | 14:11 |
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| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: idk, don't have an answer for that right now | 14:12 |
| mriedem | it's voting at least | 14:12 |
| mriedem | the one we run isn't voting | 14:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | hmm, true | 14:12 |
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| mriedem | there was also a regression / race in the gate yesterday | 14:13 |
| mriedem | which we reverted | 14:13 |
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| mriedem | melwitt was poking at the fix on that one | 14:13 |
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| mriedem | markus_z: are there any other critical bugs? | 14:13 |
| markus_z | nope, nothing else | 14:14 |
| vladikr | Don't know if it's critical, but there is a bug that we've introduced with the config drive attach patch, I've suggested a fix: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/335676 | 14:14 |
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| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: hang on, we have a global unique constraint on mac address? or am I reading that wrongly? | 14:14 |
| markus_z | A lot of new reports in the last 24 hours | 14:14 |
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| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: your eyes do not deceive you | 14:14 |
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| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: so that has to be rubbish, different networks but same mac is totally fine | 14:14 |
| dansmith | vladikr: not critical I think, but definitely one we should fix | 14:15 |
| dansmith | johnthetubaguy: right, which is really strange to me | 14:15 |
| lyarwood | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1597669 also came up yesterday after vladikr's config drive change but it appears it's been like this for a while. | 14:15 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1597669 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "[libvirt] disk.config.rescue is not used when rescuing an instance" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Lee Yarwood (lyarwood) | 14:15 |
| dansmith | johnthetubaguy: why we'd be failing there | 14:15 |
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| johnthetubaguy | dansmith: true, will have to wait for those logs | 14:15 |
| danpb | vladikr: bug fixes aren't critical wrt freeze - we've plenty of time to get them in | 14:15 |
| jaypipes | johnthetubaguy: confirmed. there is a uniq_virtual_interfaces0address0deleted index. | 14:16 |
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| dansmith | that's strange | 14:16 |
| dansmith | maybe n-net had such a requirement | 14:16 |
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| dansmith | ? | 14:16 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, address, network, deleted might be closer to allowed, even then... | 14:16 |
| jaypipes | dansmith: not sure :( | 14:16 |
| mriedem | yeah keep in mind we literally haven't used VIF objects for neutron until yesterday | 14:16 |
| dansmith | but the constraint is not covering network right? | 14:16 |
| mriedem | it's not | 14:16 |
| jaypipes | dansmith: no | 14:16 |
| mriedem | and we don't set network_id on the vif for neutron | 14:17 |
| dansmith | mriedem: we do | 14:17 |
| mriedem | b/c network_id is the nova-net network.id | 14:17 |
| johnthetubaguy | dansmith: well, nova-network never really got used with multiple physical networks | 14:17 |
| mriedem | dansmith: i'm pretty sure we don't | 14:17 |
| dansmith | johnthetubaguy: I guess | 14:17 |
| mriedem | b/c neutron's network id is a uuid | 14:17 |
| mriedem | not an int | 14:17 |
| dansmith | mriedem: okay I guess you're right | 14:17 |
| mriedem | \o/ | 14:17 |
| jaypipes | heh | 14:17 |
| dansmith | I thought I did | 14:17 |
| dansmith | but I'm probably thinking about the tests | 14:17 |
| mriedem | i remember looking | 14:17 |
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| dansmith | okay | 14:18 |
| mriedem | anywho | 14:18 |
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| jaypipes | dansmith: network_id is a nullable int. | 14:18 |
| mriedem | so, we have some bugs | 14:18 |
| dansmith | jaypipes: yeah | 14:18 |
| mriedem | we'll talk about those in -nova after the meeting | 14:18 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, there be bugs to work on | 14:18 |
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| mriedem | #topic reminders | 14:18 |
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| mriedem | #link Newton review focus list: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-nova-priorities-tracking | 14:19 |
| mriedem | as noted, today reviews should really focus on getting non-priority bp's in that are close already | 14:19 |
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| mriedem | #help https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/BugTriage#Weekly_bug_skimming_duty Volunteers for 1 week of bug skimming duty? | 14:19 |
| mriedem | It would be good to get someone from the core team to own bug triage for a week (next week?). ^ | 14:19 |
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| mriedem | if we do some FFEs next week, core team people doing bug triage might have to wait a week | 14:20 |
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| mriedem | but in general, more cores helping with bug triage would be appreciated | 14:20 |
| mriedem | #topic Stable branch status: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/stable-tracker | 14:20 |
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| mriedem | i think the stable gate is ok | 14:20 |
| mriedem | i haven't heard of any explosions there lately | 14:21 |
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| mriedem | there is a cve fix to get out in liberty | 14:21 |
| mriedem | #topic subteam highlights | 14:21 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "subteam highlights (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:21 | |
| mriedem | there was no cells v2 meeting yesterday | 14:21 |
| mriedem | edleafe: scheduler meeting highlights? | 14:21 |
| alaski | yep, nothing to report | 14:21 |
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| edleafe | Still no agreement on the best way to handle interaction of external systems with scheduler | 14:21 |
| edleafe | E.g., Watcher wanting to validate a potential live migration target before calling live mig | 14:21 |
| edleafe | Agreed to discuss on the spec itself, and at the midcycle if still not resolved. | 14:21 |
| edleafe | Also agreed to hold off on any other attempts to interact with the scheduler until we have a public API for that. | 14:22 |
| edleafe | Separating qualitative parts of a request is generally agreed to be the right way, but not enough feedback yet on the best implementation. | 14:22 |
| edleafe | Definitely a midcycle topic. | 14:22 |
| edleafe | Yingxin's eventually consistent host state proposal has a lot more performance data: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack | 14:22 |
| edleafe | -dev/2016-June/098202.html | 14:22 |
| edleafe | (can you tell I typed that ahead of time?) | 14:22 |
| mriedem | yes | 14:22 |
| mriedem | way to be prepared | 14:22 |
| edleafe | for once | 14:22 |
| mriedem | and jaypipes wants review on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/300177/ | 14:23 |
| patchbot | mriedem: patch 300177 - nova-specs - resource-providers: Populate allocation fields | 14:23 |
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| mriedem | edleafe: anything else? | 14:24 |
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| edleafe | nope | 14:24 |
| mriedem | live migration meeting, PaulMurray? | 14:24 |
| alaski | there's a question for jaypipes on that review, otherwise I'm +2 | 14:24 |
| PaulMurray | There was more talk on CI | 14:25 |
| PaulMurray | live migration job is in check queue | 14:25 |
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| PaulMurray | some tests seem stable | 14:25 |
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| PaulMurray | still getting problems with the top two ive migration bugs in recheck | 14:25 |
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| PaulMurray | mriedem, did you figure out if they are still happening in the new job? | 14:25 |
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| mriedem | PaulMurray: from logstash the volume-backed abort one was the failure on master in the live migration job | 14:26 |
| mriedem | this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1524898 | 14:26 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1524898 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Volume based live migration aborted unexpectedly" [High,Confirmed] | 14:26 |
| mriedem | danpb: had a test patch up to run nova with latest libvirt/qemu i think | 14:27 |
| mriedem | danpb: did that work? | 14:27 |
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| mriedem | PaulMurray: anything else? | 14:27 |
| PaulMurray | I think I saw a failure on at least one of his patches | 14:27 |
| danpb | mriedem: yes & no - the hack to run a qemu with extra debug worked | 14:27 |
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| danpb | mriedem: but i only replaced qemu on the xenial based nodes, and of course those are only showing 4 failures in 7 days, so i've not reproduced it yet | 14:28 |
| danpb | mriedem: i'm getting builds of hacked qemu done for trusty too, where its easier to reproduce | 14:28 |
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| PaulMurray | mriedem, one more item | 14:28 |
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| mriedem | ok, i think the multinode full job runs on trusty still | 14:28 |
| mriedem | the live migration job runs on xenial | 14:28 |
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| danpb | yeah, multinode-full is on trusty and that's where its easily reproducable | 14:29 |
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| danpb | my hack only touched multinode-live-migration where its much rarer on xenial | 14:29 |
| danpb | should have the hack for trusty ready within next day though | 14:29 |
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| mriedem | cool | 14:30 |
| PaulMurray | mriedem, last thing | 14:30 |
| PaulMurray | Cross neutron/nova live migration change coming that needs coordination: | 14:30 |
| PaulMurray | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/migration-use-target-vif | 14:30 |
| mriedem | i've confirmed in logstash that we aren't seeing https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1539271 in the xenial job | 14:30 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1539271 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Libvirt live block migration migration stalls" [High,Confirmed] | 14:30 |
| mriedem | PaulMurray: yeah there is a dev list thread on that now and it's going to be discussed at the midcycle on wednesday afternoon | 14:30 |
| danpb | mriedem: good, i thought that would be fixed with newer builds | 14:31 |
| mriedem | carl_baldwin and armax will be at the midcycle on wednesday | 14:31 |
| PaulMurray | thought armax was a maybe | 14:31 |
| armax | mriedem, PaulMurray I am finalizing plans | 14:31 |
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| armax | mriedem, PaulMurray hopefully I’ll be able to attend the 20th | 14:31 |
| mriedem | carl_baldwin is going to need some neutron backup | 14:32 |
| mriedem | anyway, there is also the dev list thread | 14:32 |
| mriedem | ok, moving on | 14:32 |
| mriedem | thanks paul | 14:32 |
| mriedem | alex_xu_: api meeting highlights? | 14:33 |
| mriedem | maybe alex isn't here, | 14:33 |
| alex_xu_ | i'mhere | 14:33 |
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| alex_xu_ | we have good progress on proxy discovery, proxy api/extension deprecation. | 14:34 |
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| alex_xu_ | The api-ref still needs help, welcome people to help on review and patch | 14:34 |
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| alex_xu_ | and there is discussion on about sync update_at of instance_actions http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-June/098299.html | 14:34 |
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| alex_xu_ | that is all we have | 14:35 |
| mriedem | yup, ok, thanks | 14:35 |
| mriedem | i think sdague is around next week | 14:35 |
| mriedem | and then off for like 2 weeks | 14:36 |
| mriedem | but i'm not sure | 14:36 |
| alex_xu_ | yea, that is another import thing, we need sdague! | 14:36 |
| mriedem | :) | 14:36 |
| mriedem | moshele isn't here | 14:36 |
| lbeliveau | moshele couldn't attend and asked me to fill in for him | 14:36 |
| mriedem | ok | 14:36 |
| lbeliveau | good progress on sriov | 14:36 |
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| lbeliveau | there are two patches ready for core reviews for fixing migration with sriov | 14:37 |
| lbeliveau | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/242573 | 14:37 |
| diga | alex_xu_: I have setup ready. if you need help, I can work on fixing | 14:37 |
| lbeliveau | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/328983 | 14:37 |
| diga | bugs/patch | 14:37 |
| lbeliveau | also Mellanox is still working on multi-node CI | 14:37 |
| mriedem | lbeliveau: will ci with resize tests on a single node test any of that? | 14:38 |
| alex_xu_ | diga: cool, thanks, we can talk that off the meeting | 14:38 |
| mriedem | or we still need multinode sriov/pci ci? | 14:38 |
| diga | alex_xu_: sure | 14:38 |
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| lbeliveau | this one should be tested by current CI https://review.openstack.org/#/c/242573 | 14:39 |
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| lbeliveau | I'll validate and ping you later today | 14:40 |
| mriedem | lbeliveau: with this test? tempest.scenario.test_network_advanced_server_ops.TestNetworkAdvancedServerOps.test_server_connectivity_resize | 14:40 |
| mriedem | http://13.69.151.247/73/242573/36/check-nova/Nova-ML2-Sriov/67c190c/testr_results.html.gz | 14:40 |
| lbeliveau | yes | 14:40 |
| mriedem | anyway, yeah, we can take after the meeting | 14:40 |
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| lbeliveau | that's it | 14:40 |
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| mriedem | thanks | 14:41 |
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| mriedem | gibi_: was there a notifications meeting | 14:41 |
| mriedem | ? | 14:41 |
| gibi_ | mriedem: yes | 14:41 |
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| gibi_ | so the scope of the transformation spec in newton is really close to merge | 14:41 |
| gibi_ | additional easy transformations are also up and some already has +2 so there is chance that some gets merged | 14:42 |
| gibi_ | first patch of json schema generation is merged in ovo | 14:42 |
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| gibi_ | so we might get a chance to add a tool to nova to generate json schema for the notification payloads | 14:42 |
| mriedem | gibi_: the goals for newton again are versioned notifications for instance.delete and instance.update and create? | 14:42 |
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| gibi_ | mriedem: that is the remaining yes | 14:43 |
| mriedem | i want to keep the target in mind for newton | 14:43 |
| mriedem | ok | 14:43 |
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| gibi_ | after the freeze we have some follow up patches to do | 14:43 |
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| gibi_ | doc generation improvement | 14:43 |
| gibi_ | test improvements | 14:43 |
| mriedem | ok | 14:44 |
| mriedem | anything else? | 14:44 |
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| gibi_ | swap_volume notification patches queued up after instance.update | 14:44 |
| gibi_ | that is a separate bp | 14:44 |
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| mriedem | yeah there were like 3 separate notification bps | 14:44 |
| mriedem | hypervisors, swap volume and keypairs | 14:45 |
| mriedem | at least one of those didn't have code up so i deferred it last night | 14:45 |
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| mriedem | anyway | 14:45 |
| gibi_ | hypervisor stuck a bit on discussion but has code | 14:45 |
| gibi_ | swap_volume looks good | 14:45 |
| gibi_ | keypair deferred I think | 14:45 |
| gibi_ | that is all | 14:45 |
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| johnthetubaguy | is swap_volume in a separate bp? | 14:45 |
| takashin | Yes | 14:45 |
| johnthetubaguy | ah, I see it now | 14:45 |
| gibi_ | johnthetubaguy: yes as that is a new notification not a transformation | 14:46 |
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| johnthetubaguy | gotcha | 14:46 |
| mriedem | yeah those were all new notifications | 14:46 |
| mriedem | dependent on the versioned notification stuf | 14:46 |
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| gibi_ | yes | 14:46 |
| mriedem | ok let's move on | 14:46 |
| mriedem | #topic stuck reviews | 14:46 |
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| mriedem | there wasn't anything on the agenda | 14:46 |
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| mriedem | paging for instance actions is stuck on what we decide to do in http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-June/098503.html | 14:47 |
| mriedem | which alex_xu_ already brought up | 14:47 |
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| mriedem | #topic open discussion | 14:47 |
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| mriedem | #info If you RSVP'ed for the meetup but know you won't be coming, please let me know so I can get an accurate headcount. | 14:47 |
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| mriedem | anything else for open discussion? | 14:47 |
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| gjayavelu | mriedem: need some help on reviewing vmware sub-team patches https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-nova-priorities-tracking | 14:48 |
| diga | mriedem: as discussed last time, if we can setup live stream for remote joinees will be good | 14:48 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: we did have BPs up for the instance actions stuff, I missed that discussion the other day and on ML, will go read that | 14:48 |
| diga | mriedem: mid-cycle meetup | 14:48 |
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| mriedem | diga: unless there is a specific thing that we need to do a hangout for, they usually don't work | 14:49 |
| mriedem | there isn't a microphone for everyone | 14:49 |
| mriedem | so watching me drink coffee with no sound isn't great | 14:49 |
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| edleafe | mriedem: I beg to differ | 14:49 |
| mriedem | we will have a nova/cinder hangout on wednesday morning | 14:49 |
| auggy | mriedem: that's what the moustache addons are for | 14:50 |
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| mriedem | ok, wrapping up | 14:51 |
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| mriedem | thanks everyone | 14:51 |
| mriedem | #endmeeting | 14:51 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jun 30 14:51:12 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:51 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2016/nova.2016-06-30-14.00.html | 14:51 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2016/nova.2016-06-30-14.00.txt | 14:51 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2016/nova.2016-06-30-14.00.log.html | 14:51 |
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| armax | hello hello | 21:59 |
| amuller | hiya | 21:59 |
| HenryG | o/ | 21:59 |
| blogan | hi | 22:00 |
| jschwarz | hello o/ | 22:00 |
| ajo | o/ :) | 22:00 |
| boden | howdy o/ | 22:00 |
| johnsom | o/ | 22:00 |
| ihrachys | ahoj | 22:00 |
| armax | #startmeeting neutron_drivers | 22:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jun 30 22:00:42 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is armax. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 22:00 |
| amotoki | hi | 22:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 22:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_drivers)" | 22:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_drivers' | 22:00 |
| armax | let see if I remember how to run an irc meeting | 22:00 |
| ajo | :) | 22:01 |
| carl_baldwin | o/ | 22:01 |
| armax | bear with me if I fail | 22:01 |
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| armax | the usual landing page: | 22:01 |
| armax | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/NeutronDrivers | 22:01 |
| kevinbenton | Hi | 22:01 |
| dougwig | o/ | 22:01 |
| armax | I spent this morning going over the outstanding RFEs | 22:01 |
| armax | I encourage everyone to do the same | 22:02 |
| armax | but we should not neglect the outstanding specs | 22:02 |
| dougwig | i found a hole in our rfe query last week. if anyone submits code before we talk about an rfe, it jumps to 'in progress'. | 22:02 |
| dougwig | and then we never talk about it. | 22:02 |
| armax | dougwig: I clean that up regularly | 22:02 |
| dougwig | ok | 22:02 |
| armax | but yes, that’s potentially a loophole | 22:03 |
| dougwig | such mad launchpad skills, i fear for your sanity | 22:03 |
| carl_baldwin | We should encourage them not to use "closes-bug" but to use "related-bug" I think. | 22:03 |
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| armax | carl_baldwin: that falls on deaf ears | 22:03 |
| armax | I don’t know how many times I said people not to create blueprints | 22:03 |
| armax | they still do | 22:03 |
| carl_baldwin | But, if it is documented, at least we tried. | 22:03 |
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| carl_baldwin | Is it documented? | 22:03 |
| dougwig | just searching on tag rfe and not tag rfe-approved will find them | 22:03 |
| armax | anyhoo | 22:04 |
| armax | an administration info | 22:04 |
| armax | I created a new tag | 22:04 |
| armax | rfe-postponed | 22:04 |
| ihrachys | armax: bugs are bad because the bot reassigns them on every patch upload. it sucks. | 22:04 |
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| amuller | ihrachys: We're not supposed to use the bug after it's approved | 22:04 |
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| amuller | that's what blueprints are for | 22:04 |
| ajo | ihrachys, armax may be we can tweak the bot to not touch the #rfe's | 22:04 |
| armax | the careful reviewer can easily spot the loophole | 22:05 |
| ihrachys | amuller: then why is it suggested above we should not have bps? or I miss smth? | 22:05 |
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| kevinbenton | But what about us reckless reviewers? | 22:05 |
| armax | when I review I go back to the bug report and if that belongs to an unpproved rfe you can always slap the contributor on the wrist | 22:05 |
| armax | kevinbenton: the reckless reviewer should be stripped down of his/her +2 rights | 22:06 |
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| ajo | :) | 22:06 |
| armax | guys | 22:06 |
| armax | let’s not derail | 22:06 |
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| armax | unless you want to :) | 22:06 |
| armax | I was saying… | 22:06 |
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| armax | I created an rfe-postponed tag to mark any RFE that is not quite ready to be taken on | 22:06 |
| carl_baldwin | I think I could go apply that to a bunch of the bgp ones in confirmed. | 22:07 |
| armax | things that we may want to consider in the future and that may require other stuff to land first | 22:07 |
| mickeys | Wondering why 1509431 was moved to rfe-postponed (along with all of the BGP RFEs). There is a spec out that is being actively reviewed: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/322654/ | 22:07 |
| armax | carl_baldwin: I already did | 22:07 |
| HenryG | So it's different from "rfe-approved + postponed"? | 22:07 |
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| carl_baldwin | Oh good. | 22:07 |
| armax | mickeys: no-one should be stopped from reviewing | 22:07 |
| ajo | and may be the qos-bandwidth-guarantee "strict" that requires the nova scheduling bits... | 22:07 |
| armax | I was under the impression that the BGP team was busy putting the repo in the right shape | 22:08 |
| armax | if carl_baldwin or rtidwell want to take that on for Newton I am happy to change the tag | 22:08 |
| armax | ajo: go for it | 22:08 |
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| mickeys | armax: Thanks, will check with rtidwell | 22:08 |
| amotoki | "rfe-approved + postponed" sounds odd. I think 'rfe-postponed' tag is used for potential features. | 22:08 |
| ajo | postponed! | 22:08 |
| ajo | :) | 22:09 |
| armax | mickeys: sure, and sorry I didn’t mean to give you a scare | 22:09 |
| mlavalle | mickeys: his irc nic tidwellr | 22:09 |
| armax | mlavalle: thanks | 22:09 |
| armax | I don’t see him online | 22:09 |
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| armax | ok, we good? shall we proceed? | 22:09 |
| mlavalle | armax: he is in the Neutron channel | 22:10 |
| armax | mlavalle: ack | 22:10 |
| armax | another thing... | 22:10 |
| armax | did you guys miss me? | 22:10 |
| armax | :) | 22:10 |
| mlavalle | deeply | 22:10 |
| ajo | armax, of course we did | 22:10 |
| HenryG | No, because you were never gone | 22:10 |
| ihrachys | nope. you bugged me every single day. | 22:10 |
| ajo | lol | 22:10 |
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| armax | oh come on | 22:10 |
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| ajo | armax, did you miss us? :P | 22:10 |
| ajo | or did we also bugged you every single day? :) | 22:11 |
| armax | did I? | 22:11 |
| armax | :) | 22:11 |
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| armax | I think it’s good to be back | 22:11 |
| armax | let’s proceed | 22:11 |
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| armax | bug #1476527 | 22:11 |
| openstack | bug 1476527 in neutron "[RFE] Add common classifier resource" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1476527 | 22:11 |
| armax | I have had a chance to review this...again | 22:11 |
| armax | anyone had a chance to pay attention to this? | 22:12 |
| armax | I know that sc68cal had a chat with a few folks | 22:12 |
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| ajo | I did too | 22:13 |
| dougwig | i thought this was already in progress, in neutron-classifier | 22:13 |
| ajo | on summit and a couple of meetings with them afterwards | 22:13 |
| dougwig | but i haven't been following it | 22:13 |
| armax | dougwig: I think there’s some lack of clarity on how this actually is supposed to work | 22:13 |
| ihrachys | neutron-classifier is nothing but data models. | 22:13 |
| armax | integrate with the data plane etc | 22:13 |
| dougwig | ahh, the integration part. | 22:14 |
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| armax | ihrachys: but is it meant to stay that way? | 22:14 |
| ihrachys | armax: the way I see it, TC is merely an API abstraction that can be consumed by other features | 22:14 |
| ihrachys | so no data plane | 22:14 |
| ajo | data models, and an API | 22:14 |
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| ajo | exactly | 22:14 |
| armax | and any backend implements its own? | 22:14 |
| * armax waits for an answer | 22:15 | |
| ajo | a common library could be provided to transform TC's into openflow matches, or iptables matches, or X-random-tech-matches, if we want, and we find it useful | 22:15 |
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| dougwig | i had hoped part of the goal was unifying the many packet flow mechanisms that are sprining up in every new subproject. | 22:15 |
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| dougwig | springing | 22:15 |
| ihrachys | armax: I don't know. I would be fine to implement a service plugin in the repo. it's others who want to colocate it. I agree though that the initiative should be tightly supervised by the neutron team. | 22:15 |
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| armax | ok, but that’s for whoever is meant to implement TC | 22:16 |
| armax | but what about the one that is meant to use TC | 22:16 |
| kevinbenton | TC? | 22:16 |
| ajo | traffic classifier | 22:16 |
| armax | traffic classification | 22:16 |
| ihrachys | armax: we MAY also produce a lib, as ajo said; but I don't think that's the first step to take. | 22:16 |
| armax | kevinbenton: coffee? | 22:16 |
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| ajo | take-coffee | 22:16 |
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| armax | ok | 22:17 |
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| armax | we should have this better outlined on the spec | 22:17 |
| * kevinbenton is having coffee now | 22:17 | |
| ihrachys | I would suggest we implement api layer; then once features start to use it, we'll see if there is common ground for them to reuse backend side | 22:17 |
| armax | ihrachys, ajo: are you guys able to eyeball the spec? | 22:17 |
| amotoki | there are several aspects which a common lib can cover: API validation, data models, data plane... | 22:17 |
| ihrachys | armax: that's on my horizon, but I have only 24/7 | 22:17 |
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| armax | ihrachys: you should live on a plane going around the world | 22:18 |
| armax | westwards | 22:18 |
| ihrachys | sometimes I feel like I do | 22:18 |
| dougwig | lol | 22:18 |
| ajo | armax, I can | 22:18 |
| armax | ajo: thanks | 22:18 |
| armax | let’s move on | 22:18 |
| dougwig | i do often wonder when ihrachys sleeps. | 22:18 |
| armax | bug #1552680 | 22:18 |
| openstack | bug 1552680 in neutron "[RFE] Add support for DLM" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1552680 - Assigned to John Schwarz (jschwarz) | 22:18 |
| ajo | dougwig, he doesn't | 22:18 |
| ajo | dougwig, just a tiny bit | 22:18 |
| jschwarz | Hello | 22:19 |
| armax | I did review the doc | 22:19 |
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| armax | jschwarz: great job | 22:19 |
| jschwarz | armax: thanks | 22:19 |
| armax | I was expecting to see the results broken down by tooz backend | 22:19 |
| armax | jschwarz: but that’s not super important | 22:19 |
| jschwarz | once I have all the results I'll produce a readable report | 22:19 |
| armax | jschwarz: great | 22:19 |
| jschwarz | I'm just not quite there yet | 22:19 |
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| dougwig | any highlights? | 22:20 |
| armax | I think we collectively as a team want to decide if we want to impose an extra deployment requirement on operators | 22:20 |
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| amuller | I don't think it's our job to compare tooz backends | 22:20 |
| amuller | imo not the best usage of our time | 22:20 |
| jschwarz | so far it seems like DLMs give a higher-than-expected overhead for the trivial case, so I'm looking into that | 22:20 |
| armax | because jschwarz has demonstrated that the code itself can be rather simple and the overhead marginal | 22:20 |
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| armax | amuller: I wasn’t suggesting that | 22:20 |
| armax | the doc says that experiments were conducted for the three backends | 22:20 |
| dougwig | amuller: i think we're just trying to characterize the overall hit, not care about any one backend in particular. | 22:21 |
| armax | I wondered where the results were | 22:21 |
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| amuller | dougwig: agreed | 22:21 |
| armax | but I am ok with the aggregate number if that’s what it was | 22:21 |
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| jschwarz | armax: I should be back from PTO early next week (Finished my last exam about 5 hours ago! :) ) and that's my first order of business | 22:21 |
| jschwarz | hopefully I will have real results by next week's drivers meeting | 22:21 |
| armax | jschwarz: congrats, and rest a bit | 22:22 |
| jschwarz | rest is for the wicked :P | 22:22 |
| armax | either way, I think the decision that lies ahead is whether we can seriously impose tooz+backend on Neutron deployments | 22:22 |
| jschwarz | also, I saw armax pointing out that he's not sure if there are other core projects using tooz | 22:22 |
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| armax | let’s wear the distros and deployers hats for a sec | 22:22 |
| armax | jschwarz: Nova is definitely not going to | 22:22 |
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| jschwarz | I posted back that Cinder is currently uses Tooz quite heavily in exactly the same manner we intend to | 22:22 |
| jschwarz | https://github.com/openstack/cinder/blob/master/cinder/coordination.py | 22:23 |
| armax | jschwarz: ok so it might be already available for deployments that do do use Cidner | 22:23 |
| ihrachys | armax: distros gotta suffer :P | 22:23 |
| jschwarz | exactly | 22:23 |
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| ajo | yeah | 22:23 |
| armax | ihrachys: no come on, seriously | 22:23 |
| armax | ihrachys, kevinbenton, amuller, carl_baldwin ^ | 22:23 |
| amuller | distros will take care of tooz and a backend anyway | 22:23 |
| amuller | regardless of our choice in Neutron | 22:23 |
| amuller | cause of Cinder | 22:23 |
| jschwarz | is there a distro that *doesn't* use Cinder? | 22:24 |
| jschwarz | if not, then what amuller said | 22:24 |
| armax | ok | 22:24 |
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| armax | let’s gather a bit more data points on the availability of tooz in an OpenStack deployment | 22:25 |
| dougwig | as long as we required all linux distros to use a windows tooz backend, we'll all get some amusement out of this. | 22:25 |
| ajo | X) | 22:25 |
| armax | kevinbenton: can you find out about Mirantis? | 22:25 |
| armax | kevinbenton: or do you know alrady? | 22:25 |
| armax | already? | 22:25 |
| armax | mestery: do you roll out Cinder? | 22:25 |
| jschwarz | dougwig: the only thing Microsoft know to do well with distributed, is pushing Windows 10 to everyone distributively evenly | 22:26 |
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| kevinbenton | i can look into it | 22:26 |
| armax | kevinbenton: please | 22:26 |
| armax | amuller: what about RHEL? | 22:26 |
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| amuller | armax: let's assume that won't be a problem | 22:27 |
| ihrachys | jschwarz: wait, https://github.com/openstack/cinder/commit/d6fabaa6cf7700cfb957e37594d0da818afea806 release note suggest that tooz MAY be used | 22:27 |
| armax | ok, let’s post findings on the bug report and make a decision then | 22:27 |
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| ihrachys | amuller: well, I've heard packaging zookeeper is a real pita | 22:27 |
| amuller | ihrachys: if there's pressure from upstream we will have to find a solution either way | 22:28 |
| armax | amuller: I don’t want to be the first one though :) | 22:28 |
| jschwarz | ihrachys: I think it means that "you are now allowed to use tooz" | 22:28 |
| armax | I’d rather have someone else take the blame | 22:28 |
| ajo | ihrachys, yes, I heard that too | 22:28 |
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| jschwarz | ihrachys: since then the @synchronized decorator has been introduced in a lot of places around the code | 22:28 |
| ajo | java fun | 22:28 |
| armax | carl_baldwin or I are gonna find out about HOS | 22:28 |
| ihrachys | jschwarz: ack | 22:29 |
| amuller | armax: maybe tooz authors would have interesting input about its usage | 22:29 |
| armax | kevinbenton: is gonna find out aboug MOS | 22:29 |
| carl_baldwin | i can ask if you want | 22:29 |
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| armax | amuller: is going to find out about ROS? | 22:29 |
| armax | how do you call yours? | 22:29 |
| jschwarz | armax: RHOS | 22:29 |
| amuller | RDO :) | 22:29 |
| armax | right | 22:29 |
| dougwig | i also don't think there's any harm in punting this, and letting tooz mature. the last thing we need is another reason for people to think neutron is buggy. | 22:29 |
| armax | RDO | 22:29 |
| armax | where’s my head? | 22:29 |
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| armax | ok moving on | 22:30 |
| armax | bug #1563879 | 22:30 |
| openstack | bug 1563879 in neutron "[RFE] DVR should route packets to Instances behind the L2 Gateway" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1563879 | 22:30 |
| jschwarz | And to all, a good night. See you next week! :) | 22:30 |
| armax | swami is not in channel | 22:31 |
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| armax | jschwarz: nite! | 22:31 |
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| armax | I think the l2gw repo has a fix targeted that works under certain conditions | 22:31 |
| armax | but I am unclear on the scope of the work because the RFE doesn’t have a lot | 22:31 |
| armax | this is probably a candidate for rfe-postponed if the DVR plate is alraedy full with fast-exit and such | 22:32 |
| armax | carl_baldwin: what do you think/know? | 22:32 |
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| carl_baldwin | I'm not up on l2gw related stuff. | 22:33 |
| armax | I mean on DVR | 22:33 |
| armax | carl_baldwin: you have your plate full already don’t you? | 22:33 |
| carl_baldwin | Oh, the DVR plate? | 22:33 |
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| carl_baldwin | Mine is pretty full. | 22:33 |
| * armax subtly is telling carl_baldwin to nod along | 22:33 | |
| carl_baldwin | But, there is a DVR team that we could ask. | 22:33 |
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| carl_baldwin | I think they're pretty busy too. | 22:33 |
| * carl_baldwin nods | 22:34 | |
| armax | carl_baldwin: ok, so I leave the action to you to mark it postponed once you cleared with the team? | 22:34 |
| armax | carl_baldwin: the dvr team I mean? | 22:34 |
| carl_baldwin | yes | 22:34 |
| armax | carl_baldwin: again, there was a patch in the l2gw repo but I am unsure if that suffices to kill this RFE | 22:34 |
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| armax | if Swami confirms that it does, then we can move it directly to approved as the patch was rather easy to digest | 22:35 |
| carl_baldwin | I'll follow up on this. | 22:35 |
| armax | carl_baldwin: thank you sir | 22:35 |
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| armax | moving on | 22:35 |
| armax | bug #1566520 | 22:35 |
| openstack | bug 1566520 in neutron "[RFE] Upgrade controllers with no API downtime" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1566520 | 22:35 |
| armax | who wants this? | 22:35 |
| armax | I do | 22:36 |
| dougwig | i'd want it if i was an operator. | 22:36 |
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| armax | anyone else? | 22:36 |
| amotoki | me too. it brings us true live upgrade. | 22:36 |
| carl_baldwin | Who would say they don't want it? | 22:36 |
| armax | carl_baldwin: right | 22:36 |
| ajo | exactly | 22:36 |
| ihrachys | that, and a pony | 22:36 |
| dougwig | people who hate uptime. | 22:36 |
| * armax subtly is telling people to say ‘I do’ | 22:37 | |
| HenryG | developers | 22:37 |
| kevinbenton | and people who care about data schemas :) | 22:37 |
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| carl_baldwin | We need to consider the cost though. It is going to take some work to get there. | 22:37 |
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| dasm | ihrachys: is this "enhancement to ovo? | 22:37 |
| dougwig | ok, so kevinbenton hates uptime and is a developer. check. | 22:37 |
| armax | carl_baldwin: yes, nothing is cheap or free | 22:37 |
| ihrachys | dasm: no, ovo is means, and that's the actual goal | 22:37 |
| dasm | armax: i'm not a operator, but would like to have live upgrade. I do. | 22:38 |
| armax | let’s put it this way | 22:38 |
| armax | we can only have tooz if we have online upgrades | 22:38 |
| armax | the carrot and the stick | 22:38 |
| armax | if you catch my drift | 22:38 |
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| kevinbenton | they both sound like sticks to me :) | 22:39 |
| ihrachys | carl_baldwin: what would be the process to consider? | 22:39 |
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| dougwig | but i'm not dying for tooz, and i do want online upgrade. your carrot sucks. | 22:39 |
| armax | lol | 22:39 |
| armax | dougwig: don’t you want a more reliable system? | 22:39 |
| armax | and a more available one? | 22:39 |
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| ihrachys | dougwig: now, another question: would you want online upgrades IN OCTAVIA? :) | 22:39 |
| dougwig | ihrachys: indeed, i do. | 22:40 |
| dougwig | armax: DLM is not the only path to being more reliable. | 22:40 |
| ihrachys | ok test passed | 22:40 |
| armax | dougwig: right, more code complexity is | 22:40 |
| armax | tooz may make the code simpler but operations harder | 22:40 |
| armax | online upgrades are the opposite: make the code more complex but the operation simpler | 22:40 |
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| ajo | you want a pony ? , ok, you'll have to take care of it ;) | 22:41 |
| armax | anyway we’re digressing…in general we should encourage ways to improve the availability of Neutron as a system the same way we want to encourage ways to improve reliability | 22:42 |
| dougwig | ajo: this is cloud software; pets get shot | 22:42 |
| armax | the trick is in the price to pay and who pays it | 22:42 |
| ajo | dougwig, crap XD | 22:42 |
| armax | the pain points of the user should be given priority compared to the pain points of the developer | 22:43 |
| ajo | unless you kill the developer | 22:43 |
| armax | ajo: of course | 22:43 |
| amuller | unless your software is so complex no one wants to work on it | 22:43 |
| ajo | but that's ok if developers are pets | 22:43 |
| ihrachys | does anyone want a detailed analysis of the cost in that particular case? | 22:43 |
| amuller | it's a balance like everything :) | 22:43 |
| dougwig | sigh, openstack users ARE developers at this point. | 22:44 |
| armax | I think that other projects have proven that online upgrades are doable | 22:44 |
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| armax | we’re not trail blazers here | 22:44 |
| dougwig | ihrachys: if you've got it, yes | 22:44 |
| ihrachys | dougwig: I can produce it. not today, but generally. | 22:44 |
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| armax | ok, I guess we’re inclined to approve this rfe | 22:44 |
| ihrachys | dougwig: I think I feel some lack of understanding of the plan to get to the pony | 22:44 |
| armax | any veto? | 22:44 |
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| ihrachys | so maybe writing up is good anyhow | 22:45 |
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| armax | none | 22:45 |
| dougwig | no vote, i'm all in favor. | 22:45 |
| dougwig | no veto | 22:45 |
| dougwig | same letters. | 22:46 |
| carl_baldwin | I'm in favor | 22:46 |
| HenryG | me2 | 22:46 |
| amotoki | none | 22:46 |
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| armax | we need to figure out the order certain efforts need to happen | 22:46 |
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| armax | like the keystone v3 migraiton | 22:46 |
| kevinbenton | easy, stop all development :) | 22:46 |
| ihrachys | note it will span into Ocata | 22:46 |
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| dougwig | i expect it to span into Q. | 22:47 |
| armax | I expect to span into A | 22:47 |
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| dougwig | i think armax just segfaulted (array bounds) | 22:47 |
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| ihrachys | armax: I think we are settled that contract branch will live for at least till Newton final, keystone v3 is in good shape to happen before Ocata. | 22:48 |
| armax | ihrachys: ack | 22:48 |
| armax | so long as we have full awareness of the other things in flight | 22:48 |
| armax | then we should be good | 22:48 |
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| armax | movign on | 22:49 |
| armax | bug #1580880 | 22:49 |
| openstack | bug 1580880 in neutron "[RFE] Distributed Portbinding for all port types" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1580880 - Assigned to Andreas Scheuring (andreas-scheuring) | 22:49 |
| armax | I have failed to review this ahead of the meeting | 22:49 |
| armax | it’s next on my stack though | 22:49 |
| carl_baldwin | This is a Nova/Neutron cross project thing. | 22:49 |
| armax | ok | 22:49 |
| carl_baldwin | The pain is felt when doing live migration. | 22:49 |
| carl_baldwin | I've been trying to feel out the Nova side to see how they want to prioritize their part. | 22:50 |
| dougwig | service VMs are another big use case here. | 22:50 |
| carl_baldwin | It is on the agenda for the mid-cycle in Portland. | 22:50 |
| armax | carl_baldwin: it looks like one of the live migraiton patches that targeted Nova has yet to be merged | 22:50 |
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| armax | like this oen? | 22:50 |
| armax | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/275073/ | 22:50 |
| armax | or like https://review.openstack.org/#/c/246910/ | 22:51 |
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| carl_baldwin | So, this would be a whole 'nother live migration related change in Nova. | 22:52 |
| armax | ok | 22:52 |
| carl_baldwin | armax: You thinking they're not giving these much attention or priority? | 22:52 |
| armax | I thought that live migration was a priority for Mitaka | 22:53 |
| armax | but there’s probably enough to make those deferred | 22:53 |
| dasm | armax: it was. but because for mitaka it was priority, for newton they don't think so that it's important. | 22:53 |
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| dasm | so live migration (not everything finished) was degraded for newton | 22:54 |
| armax | there are certain tasks that I’d rather align with Nova | 22:54 |
| armax | in terms of priority | 22:54 |
| armax | otherwise it feels like we’d do work we’d never know we’d be able to leverage from their side | 22:54 |
| carl_baldwin | My thoughts exactly. That's why I was trying to feel it out a bit. | 22:55 |
| mlavalle | lol | 22:55 |
| armax | carl_baldwin: ok, let’s continue to gauge their interest | 22:55 |
| armax | bug #1583694 | 22:55 |
| openstack | bug 1583694 in neutron "[RFE] DVR support for Allowed_address_pair port that are bound to multiple ACTIVE VM ports" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1583694 - Assigned to Swaminathan Vasudevan (swaminathan-vasudevan) | 22:55 |
| carl_baldwin | armax: Let's bring it up at their mid-cycle when we're all there. | 22:55 |
| armax | I was asking for an update on this one, I looked at the patches but that didn’t click for me | 22:55 |
| armax | anyone has anything to add? | 22:56 |
| armax | no? | 22:56 |
| armax | ok | 22:56 |
| armax | bug #1592918 | 22:56 |
| openstack | bug 1592918 in neutron "[RFE] Adding Port Statistics to Neutron Metering Agent" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1592918 - Assigned to Sana Khan (sana.khan) | 22:56 |
| carl_baldwin | armax: Sorry, no. Nothing to add. | 22:56 |
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| armax | this seems pretty straightforward, rossella_s said she’s happy to help | 22:57 |
| armax | it does seem that the data being captured here would be the same that is available through ‘nova diagnostics' | 22:57 |
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| dougwig | i see OVS mentioned. what about LB? | 22:58 |
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| armax | but if we allowed this we could capture this data for all ports, not just computes | 22:58 |
| armax | I suppose the submitter is interesed in OVS only | 22:59 |
| armax | but we can see if LB can be enough of a low hanging fruit | 22:59 |
| amotoki | it is straightforward. question is where we implement it. l2-agent or metering-agent? | 22:59 |
| amotoki | i am not sure which is simpler. | 22:59 |
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| carl_baldwin | Just hit time | 23:00 |
| armax | amotoki: right now it looks like it’s targeting the metering agent | 23:00 |
| armax | ok folks | 23:00 |
| amotoki | armax: yeah. the rfe says so. | 23:00 |
| armax | thanks for joining, please take the time to review the specs of the approved RFEs | 23:00 |
| armax | bye! | 23:00 |
| ajo | metering agent seems reasonable | 23:00 |
| armax | #endmeeting | 23:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jun 30 23:00:46 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 23:00 |
| dasm | o/ | 23:00 |
| ajo | bye! o/ | 23:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2016/neutron_drivers.2016-06-30-22.00.html | 23:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2016/neutron_drivers.2016-06-30-22.00.txt | 23:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2016/neutron_drivers.2016-06-30-22.00.log.html | 23:00 |
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| mlavalle | ajo: is it mid-night? | 23:01 |
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| ajo | mlavalle, 01:00 AM here | 23:01 |
| ajo | :) | 23:01 |
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| mlavalle | wow! got to bed ajo | 23:01 |
| ajo | ':D | 23:01 |
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