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thinrichs | Hi all. Time for Congress | 00:01 |
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aimeeu | Hello! | 00:01 |
thinrichs | #startmeeting CongressTeamMeeting | 00:01 |
openstack | Meeting started Thu Jun 23 00:01:32 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is thinrichs. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 00:01 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 00:01 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'congressteammeeting' | 00:01 |
ekcs | hi | 00:01 |
aimeeu | Hi again | 00:01 |
ramineni_ | hi | 00:02 |
thinrichs | ekcs, aimeeu: hi! | 00:02 |
thinrichs | ramineni_: hi | 00:02 |
thinrichs | masahito is I think out of town still | 00:02 |
thinrichs | Agenda for the week… | 00:02 |
thinrichs | 1. Gate | 00:02 |
thinrichs | 2. Low-hanging bugs for newcomers | 00:02 |
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thinrichs | 3. Status updates | 00:03 |
thinrichs | Anything else? | 00:03 |
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thinrichs | #topic Gate | 00:04 |
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thinrichs | ramineni_: how is the gate looking? | 00:04 |
ramineni_ | thinrichs: right now, it looks green, series of patches merged in tempest , causing our gate to fail | 00:05 |
ramineni_ | thinrichs: fixed the same in both master and stable/mitaka | 00:05 |
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thinrichs | ramineni_: Nice! | 00:06 |
thinrichs | That's an easy agenda item them | 00:06 |
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thinrichs | Moving on, unless there's anything to discuss about the HA tests, which are the ones that have been broken of late. | 00:07 |
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thinrichs | #topic Low-hanging bugs | 00:08 |
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ramineni_ | thinrichs: no, HA tests failing because we are using endpoints_client and service client which got changed in tempets | 00:08 |
ramineni_ | thinrichs: otherwise they are fine | 00:09 |
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thinrichs | ramineni_: makes sense | 00:09 |
thinrichs | aimeeu is a new contributor (if you remember from last week) and is looking for a couple of bugs to start with | 00:10 |
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aimeeu | I did come across another one that was abandoned a year ago: https://bugs.launchpad.net/congress/+bug/1415199 | 00:10 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1415199 in congress "Refactor test_neutron_driver" [Medium,Confirmed] - Assigned to Cleber Rosa (cleber-gnu) | 00:10 |
thinrichs | We used to have bugs in launchpad marked with 'low-hanging-fruit'. | 00:11 |
aimeeu | Only 2 marked that way | 00:11 |
thinrichs | Do we have bugs aimeeu might be able to work on that we haven't registered in launchpad. | 00:11 |
ekcs | Here is a simple one assigned to me but I haven’t done it. #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/congress/+bug/1501579 | 00:12 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1501579 in congress "Calling plexxi_driver.execute(...) throws exception" [Medium,New] - Assigned to Eric K (ekcs) | 00:12 |
thinrichs | aimeeu: The tests are in a state of flux because we basically rewrote them all for a new architecture we're almost finished implementing. | 00:12 |
thinrichs | So we should probably abandon the bug you mentioned above. | 00:13 |
aimeeu | OK | 00:13 |
thinrichs | The new tests could require that kind of work too, but we would need to look. | 00:13 |
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thinrichs | ekcs: thanks. | 00:14 |
thinrichs | aimeeu: you could work on the one ekcs is pointing out. Seems like there's just a method to add. | 00:14 |
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aimeeu | Got it - just reassigned it to myself | 00:14 |
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thinrichs | Does anyone else have bugs they're not actively working on? Especially if they're good starters, let's unassign ourselves. | 00:15 |
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thinrichs | Can we all take an action item to look for 1-2 low-hanging bugs? Then aimeeu can have a few to choose from, and we make it easier for others to jump in and help out. | 00:16 |
ramineni_ | thinrichs: ok | 00:16 |
aimeeu | thinrichs: thanks! | 00:16 |
ekcs | got it. | 00:17 |
thinrichs | #action Everyone will try to file a couple low-hanging bugs for starting points for newcomers | 00:17 |
thinrichs | #topic status updates | 00:17 |
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thinrichs | ekcs: how is the HA discussion going? | 00:18 |
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ekcs | I haven’t done much this past week cuz I got pulled into something urgent at work. But I think we’re all in fairly good agreement on the spec. Andrew from redhat also gave some comments. I’ll touch things up in the next couple days (a few clarifications requested and fill in a few TODO sections) then I think it’s ready to merge. | 00:19 |
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thinrichs | ekcs: That was my reading too—that we're done with design and need to move on to implementation | 00:20 |
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ekcs | the other thing I’m working on is looking for threading issues with the switch to new-arch. A lot of things that used to be safe because there was no blocking are now suspect because rpc.cast/call blocks and yields. | 00:21 |
thinrichs | ekcs: Totally important | 00:21 |
ekcs | and i’m done with the urgent project so I should be able to get more done in the coming week. | 00:21 |
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thinrichs | I could see a number of bugs coming out of that analysis, and they could easily be super-hard to write tests for. | 00:23 |
thinrichs | ramineni_: want to discuss your status? | 00:23 |
ramineni_ | thinrichs: sure | 00:24 |
ramineni_ | last week worked on supporting keystone v3 and use of sessions for all the datasources and also made the default auth_url as v3 for creating datasources in devstack plugin | 00:24 |
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ramineni_ | still some datasouces are throwing errors, i have to look at it | 00:25 |
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thinrichs | Do all the services support v3? | 00:25 |
ramineni_ | yes | 00:25 |
thinrichs | Do we? | 00:25 |
ramineni_ | yes , creating the client with v3 shouldnt throw any error, ill check agai | 00:26 |
thinrichs | Just wanted to check | 00:27 |
ramineni_ | thats it from my side | 00:27 |
thinrichs | Ok. I'll go. | 00:27 |
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thinrichs | I've been underwater for weeks now. | 00:28 |
thinrichs | I've been struggling just to keep up with reviews. | 00:28 |
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thinrichs | But I'm hoping to have more time again. | 00:28 |
thinrichs | I was planning on testing out a multi-process deployment | 00:29 |
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thinrichs | and maybe add docs around how to do that | 00:29 |
thinrichs | Or are there other things we think are more pressing before we begin the HA work? | 00:31 |
ekcs | that sounds right. | 00:31 |
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thinrichs | Okay. That's my plan then. | 00:32 |
thinrichs | #topic open discussion | 00:32 |
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ramineni_ | thinrichs: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/329772/ | 00:32 |
patchbot | ramineni_: patch 329772 - congress - Fix listing of datasources | 00:32 |
thinrichs | Anything else we should discuss today? | 00:32 |
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ramineni_ | thinrichs: im thinking should we delete the datasource when we fail to load driver happens | 00:33 |
ramineni_ | ? | 00:33 |
thinrichs | So actually remove it from the database? | 00:34 |
ramineni_ | thinrichs: yes | 00:34 |
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thinrichs | (ekcs: here's the problem ramineni_ is working on. User creates datasource with driver D. Then removes D from etc/congress/congress.conf and restarts congress. Today there's a fatal error b/c Congress can't reinstantiate the datasource b/c D is unavailabe.) | 00:35 |
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thinrichs | The question is what do we do in that case? | 00:35 |
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ekcs | thanks. just read up on it. | 00:36 |
thinrichs | I'm looking to see what happens if there's a policy referencing that datasource… | 00:36 |
thinrichs | Does Congress let you delete such a datasource or does it block it? I think it blocks it. | 00:36 |
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ramineni_ | thinrichs: it doesnt create policy | 00:37 |
ramineni_ | thinrichs: it fails here https://github.com/openstack/congress/blob/master/congress/harness.py#L394 | 00:37 |
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ramineni_ | but we silently , log the exception and continue | 00:38 |
ramineni_ | so, after that if we list the datasources, it throws internal server error | 00:38 |
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thinrichs | What's the behavior we think is right… | 00:38 |
thinrichs | there's a datasource in the DB but the driver for that DB is not available | 00:39 |
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thinrichs | I typically think that deleting something out of the DB is dangerous when the user didn't ask us to do it. | 00:39 |
ekcs | Yea I’m with thinrichs on that. if someone dropped in a new config by mistake, that shouldn’d delete DS and especially not policies. | 00:40 |
thinrichs | So let's imagine we leave the DS in the DB. | 00:40 |
ramineni_ | ekcs: policies are not created for that datasource | 00:40 |
thinrichs | What problems does that cause? | 00:41 |
ekcs | We could prompt the user to ok the deletion. options: 1. delete the DS and continue 2. fail and you fix the config before relaunching. | 00:41 |
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thinrichs | What if it's a script that's starting up Congress? | 00:42 |
thinrichs | Interactive stuff seems scary | 00:42 |
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ramineni_ | so, we should mark as disabled | 00:42 |
ramineni_ | and leave it in DB | 00:43 |
ekcs | anyway this should be a rare situation and i think the easiest thing is to document and let the user resolve it by fixing config or fixing DB. problem is it’s hard to fix DB without congress. so maybe we have a separate congress switch that says clean the DB based on config. | 00:43 |
ramineni_ | ? | 00:43 |
ekcs | i feel like disabling adds to much complexity for something that doesn’t happen much anyway. cuz every other part of the system may need to account for that case. | 00:43 |
ramineni_ | ekcs: ya, i agree | 00:44 |
thinrichs | +1 to it being a rare situation | 00:45 |
ekcs | my vote would be for: congress just fails with good error message. in doc direct user to either add the config back or launch congress with a new switch (with warning) to launch and delete DS. | 00:45 |
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ramineni_ | ekcs: you experienced this issue without changing config? | 00:45 |
thinrichs | And we probably shouldn't be doing anything substantial right now | 00:45 |
ekcs | ramineni_: no. did I suggest that? | 00:46 |
ramineni_ | ekcs: you have raised the bug right | 00:46 |
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ekcs | ramineni_: no. This is first time i heard of it. | 00:46 |
ekcs | ok wait. | 00:46 |
ramineni_ | https://bugs.launchpad.net/congress/+bug/1564152 | 00:46 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1564152 in congress "When 1 driver fails to load, all drivers fail to list (Error 500)" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Anusha (anusha-iiitm) | 00:46 |
ekcs | I did raise the bug. | 00:47 |
ramineni_ | may be you have experienced in totally different scenario? | 00:47 |
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ekcs | but yea different scenario. like if there is bug in a driver and that driver has failure, then listing all drivers fail and don’t give any info. | 00:48 |
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ekcs | imagine someone added a new thirdparty driver. and lists drivers. idealy he should see the third party driver failing and others working in the list. user gets no info from list or from horizon. | 00:49 |
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ekcs | this is helpful especially if someone is developing their custom driver. | 00:50 |
thinrichs | ekcs: +1 to your suggestion about missing driver | 00:50 |
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ramineni_ | ekcs: but if error, it doesnt let you create datasource right | 00:50 |
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thinrichs | ekcs: fixing that bug of yours will take some work | 00:52 |
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ekcs | hmm I didn’t document it super clearly. I forget what error I introduced. but it’s something like this. list_drivers() calls each individually configured driver for info(). If some of those info() methods fail, the whole list_drivers() fail. Ideally list_drivers() still gets the info on other drivers. | 00:53 |
thinrichs | ekcs: is the obvious fix (adding a try/except around the info()) a good first approx? | 00:54 |
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thinrichs | That could be something for aimeeu | 00:54 |
ekcs | that way when you look on horizon for instance, the page will list drivers and show ‘last error’ on each of the drivers. right now the page just doesn’t load. or shows 500. | 00:54 |
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ekcs | yea that’s basically what I had in mind. | 00:54 |
aimeeu | I thought of the try/catch - I can take a look if you like | 00:54 |
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ekcs | but I should document better how to reproduce. | 00:54 |
thinrichs | ekcs: maybe in addition to a few more lines about how to reproduce, you could add the low-hanging tag so aimeeu can easily find it | 00:55 |
ekcs | ok | 00:55 |
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thinrichs | 5 minutes left. Anything else for today? | 00:55 |
ekcs | ramineni_: still a good thought on what to do when driver removed from config tho. | 00:56 |
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ekcs | ramineni_: i think the delete drivers patch is a good thing to have (triggered by special switch) | 00:56 |
ramineni_ | ekcs: hmm | 00:57 |
ekcs | nothing else from me. | 00:57 |
ramineni_ | ekcs: or fail it, as they have messed up with config ? | 00:57 |
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ekcs | yea fail should be default behavior | 00:57 |
thinrichs | ramineni_: so I think the proposal is: (i) congress fails to start if it has DS without a driver and (ii) add a switch to congress server that causes it to delete all DSs without drivers | 00:58 |
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thinrichs | ekcs: is that right? | 00:58 |
ekcs | yea | 00:58 |
ekcs | but again maybe not even that important to add (ii) right now | 00:58 |
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thinrichs | Out of time for today. We can continue on #congress if need be. | 01:00 |
thinrichs | #endmeeting | 01:00 |
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oomichi | #startmeeting qa | 17:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Thu Jun 23 17:00:42 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is oomichi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: qa)" | 17:00 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'qa' | 17:00 |
oomichi | hi who join today ? | 17:00 |
mtreinish | o/ | 17:01 |
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rfolco | o/ | 17:01 |
oomichi | andreaf: ? | 17:01 |
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andreaf | o/ | 17:01 |
hogepodge | o/ | 17:02 |
oomichi | ok, lets get start | 17:02 |
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oomichi | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/QATeamMeeting#Agenda_for_June_23th_2016_.281700_UTC.29 | 17:02 |
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oomichi | ^^^ today agenda | 17:02 |
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oomichi | #topic Specs Reviews | 17:03 |
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oomichi | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/qa-specs,n,z | 17:03 |
oomichi | There are just 4 specs, and I am working for the first one | 17:03 |
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oomichi | and will update it soon based on masayukig's comment | 17:03 |
oomichi | what status on the 2nd one, mtreinish? | 17:04 |
oomichi | Policy testing apis | 17:04 |
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mtreinish | oomichi: what about it? we're holding off on it until the interfaces it depends on are stable right? | 17:04 |
oomichi | mtreinish: was it difficult to catch ryan? | 17:04 |
oomichi | mtreinish: you said you will catch him to make it forward on the previous meeting | 17:05 |
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mtreinish | oomichi: I haven't had a chance to talk to him about any details | 17:06 |
oomichi | mtreinish: oh, I see. | 17:06 |
oomichi | the 3rd one is defcore thing | 17:06 |
oomichi | hogepodge: maybe you have something want to talk here? | 17:07 |
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hogepodge | That one is partially replace with one in defcore https://review.openstack.org/#/c/317531/ | 17:07 |
hogepodge | On the test spec side of things | 17:07 |
hogepodge | I'm not sure if there's value in tagging tests that defcore has identified. What do you all think? | 17:07 |
oomichi | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/317531/ | 17:07 |
hogepodge | If it's not something desireable, I can abandon the spec. | 17:08 |
mtreinish | hogepodge: I still think there is value in tagging things like 'single-user', etc | 17:08 |
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mtreinish | but just a tag 'in-defcore' I don't think adds much | 17:08 |
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mtreinish | especially with ostestr and tempest run (well soon) having support for whitelist files | 17:08 |
oomichi | it will be useful when we take care of renaming or changing tempest tests | 17:08 |
hogepodge | mtreinish: ok, I'll rework the spec | 17:09 |
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oomichi | ok, can we move on? | 17:09 |
hogepodge | yes | 17:09 |
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oomichi | or anyone have more topics related to specs? | 17:10 |
oomichi | #topic Tempest | 17:10 |
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oomichi | many projects still are using tempest code without tmepest.lib. and we are working for implemting tempest.lib more | 17:10 |
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oomichi | the image client will be finished soon, and will release a new tag of tempest for new tempest.lib | 17:11 |
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oomichi | after implementing image client | 17:11 |
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oomichi | the other open patches are https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/tempest+status:open | 17:12 |
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oomichi | mtreinish: does tempest have still problems on py3 | 17:12 |
oomichi | ? | 17:12 |
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mtreinish | oomichi: it does, we run unit tests on py3, but most of tempest is self verifying and we have no py3 coverage there | 17:13 |
mtreinish | oomichi: it's been >1 year since I tried to do a full tempest run on py3, but I did a quick scan this morning and there are still a number of issues | 17:13 |
oomichi | mtreinish: oh, OK. there are several patches related to py3 as open reviews | 17:14 |
oomichi | how about running tmepest on py3 after that? | 17:14 |
mtreinish | oomichi: sure, but until we have a tempest job that runs using py3 we have no verification of anything | 17:15 |
mtreinish | oomichi: I'd like it if someone (not me :) ) set up an experimental job that ran tempest on py3 | 17:15 |
oomichi | mtreinish: I heard ubuntu16.04 puts py3 as the default | 17:16 |
oomichi | I'd like to try it :) | 17:16 |
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oomichi | #action oomichi sets up an experimental job that ran tempest on py3 | 17:16 |
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mtreinish | oomichi: yeah, 16.04 only install py35 by default | 17:17 |
oomichi | andreaf: you have many patches related to manager thing. is the progress good now? | 17:17 |
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andreaf | oomichi: yes I'm working on the interface for plugins to register their own service clients | 17:18 |
oomichi | mtreinish: oh py35, not py34. that is a little big challenge for me | 17:18 |
andreaf | oomichi: there are still a few patches to be done, I'm trying to do it in baby-steps | 17:19 |
andreaf | oomichi: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/tempest+branch:master+topic:bp/client-manager-refactor | 17:19 |
andreaf | oomichi: one thing I wanted to ask people about that | 17:19 |
mtreinish | oomichi: there's very little difference between 3.4 and 3.5. I've been using 3.5 for py3 testing locally since arch upgraded a while ago | 17:19 |
oomichi | andreaf: what is that? | 17:20 |
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oomichi | mtreinish: thanks, that is a good info | 17:20 |
andreaf | well, I feel there is no need to the service_client (the current manager object) to cache service client from plugins | 17:20 |
andreaf | oomichi: it creates more complications because we need to specify the name of the attribute | 17:21 |
andreaf | oomichi: so the way I'm implementing it is that a plugin register its classes under a name and then in tests it can do something like | 17:21 |
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oomichi | andreaf: does that mean users of tempest plugin don't need to consider/import service clients at all, right? | 17:22 |
andreaf | self.my_api_client = service_client.my_service_name.MyApiClient1() | 17:22 |
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andreaf | oomichi: plugin initialise the service_client and there they get access to core service clients if they need them | 17:23 |
oomichi | andreaf: yeah, the above code is easy to understand for me :) | 17:23 |
andreaf | oomichi: or they get access to their own clients, but not as attribute, instead by class names | 17:23 |
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andreaf | oomichi: that also solves the problem of name conflicts between plugins | 17:24 |
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oomichi | andreaf: cool, nice steps | 17:24 |
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oomichi | do we have more topics about tempest here? | 17:25 |
andreaf | oomichi: thanks - anyone else has an opinion against else I will move forward with that | 17:25 |
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mtreinish | oomichi: there are some tempest run things to review | 17:25 |
mtreinish | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/tempest+branch:master+topic:bp/tempest-run-cmd | 17:25 |
oomichi | mtreinish: one is already approved | 17:26 |
oomichi | and the second needs just +A | 17:26 |
oomichi | mtreinish: the other are conflict | 17:26 |
mtreinish | ugh, I need to rebase again... | 17:26 |
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oomichi | mtreinish: heh, yeah. that also nice progress | 17:27 |
oomichi | mtreinish: will you need more patches after that? | 17:27 |
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mtreinish | oomichi: probably, the last one is still a WIP so I need to finish that still. There is also some other stuff from the spec I still have to do IIRC | 17:28 |
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oomichi | mtreinish: ok, can we use the command on the gate as the default? or still need these patches for that? | 17:30 |
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mtreinish | oomichi: that's part of what still needs to be done, I have a patch that forces it poorly to test: https://review.openstack.org/327291 | 17:30 |
oomichi | mtreinish: oh, cool ! | 17:31 |
oomichi | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/327291 | 17:32 |
mtreinish | everything passes with it now | 17:32 |
oomichi | do we have more about tempest? | 17:33 |
mtreinish | oomichi: https://review.openstack.org/333074 | 17:33 |
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mtreinish | but that's just for you to +A | 17:33 |
oomichi | mtreinish: yeah, I know. I didn't have enough time to review that, will check it later | 17:33 |
hogepodge | oomichi: yes | 17:34 |
oomichi | hogepodge: thanks, go ahead | 17:34 |
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hogepodge | oomichi: after the meeting, can you help me get started on the negative testing guidelines? | 17:34 |
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oomichi | hogepodge: oh, I am happy to help that | 17:34 |
oomichi | hogepodge: thanks for reminding that | 17:35 |
hogepodge | oomichi: thanks | 17:35 |
oomichi | #action oomichi reviews https://review.openstack.org/#/c/333074/ | 17:35 |
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oomichi | #action oomichi works together for the negative testing guidelines | 17:35 |
oomichi | #action oomichi works together for the negative testing guidelines with hogepodge | 17:35 |
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oomichi | anything else? | 17:36 |
mtreinish | oomichi: there is an #undo | 17:36 |
mtreinish | iirc | 17:36 |
oomichi | #undo #action oomichi works together for the negative testing guidelines | 17:36 |
openstack | Removing item from minutes: <ircmeeting.items.Action object at 0x7fc2af1258d0> | 17:36 |
oomichi | mtreinish: cool, that works | 17:36 |
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mtreinish | oomichi: well it might have removed the one without hogepodge since that was the last event | 17:37 |
mtreinish | but, we'll see in the minutes | 17:37 |
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oomichi | mtreinish: yeah, I will check the minute | 17:37 |
oomichi | #topic Devstack and Grenade | 17:38 |
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oomichi | do we have topics related to devstack&grenade this week? | 17:38 |
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oomichi | maybe not, so lets move on | 17:39 |
oomichi | #topic openstack-health | 17:39 |
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oomichi | how about openstack-health ? | 17:39 |
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oomichi | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/openstack-health+status:open | 17:40 |
mtreinish | I don't have any updates this week on either | 17:40 |
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oomichi | sc68cal and masayukig are very active now on o-h | 17:40 |
sc68cal | :) | 17:41 |
oomichi | ok, lets move on | 17:41 |
oomichi | #topic critical review | 17:41 |
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oomichi | do we have critical reviews now | 17:41 |
oomichi | ? | 17:41 |
andreaf | oomichi: nothing from my side that wasn't mentioned already | 17:42 |
oomichi | I will review a patch mtreinish pointed before | 17:42 |
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oomichi | andreaf: yeah, that already is in my list | 17:42 |
mtreinish | oomichi: yeah just: | 17:42 |
mtreinish | #link https://review.openstack.org/333074 | 17:42 |
mtreinish | but that's the same one from the tempest topic | 17:42 |
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oomichi | mtreinish: yeah, that is my action on the minute | 17:43 |
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oomichi | do we have more? | 17:43 |
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oomichi | ok, lets move on | 17:44 |
oomichi | #topic open discussion | 17:44 |
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oomichi | one topic is just reminder | 17:44 |
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oomichi | we have qa/infra code sprint Sep 19th-21th in Germany | 17:45 |
oomichi | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Sprints/QAInfraNewtonSprint | 17:45 |
oomichi | please register on the above wiki if you are interested | 17:46 |
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oomichi | that is all from my side | 17:46 |
hogepodge | If anyone has interest in attending the DefCore mid cycle, it will be in San Antonio the week of August 1 | 17:46 |
andreaf | tempest.tests.cmd.test_run.TestRunReturnCode.test_tempest_run_passes broke again running unit tests on macosx - but I'm not sure why, tempest run returns 1 rc | 17:46 |
oomichi | hogepodge: cool, | 17:47 |
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oomichi | hogepodge: is that already public on ml? | 17:47 |
oomichi | hogepodge: or any wiki? | 17:47 |
hogepodge | oomichi: no, markvoelker and VanL are arranging the details and will post once they've firmed them up | 17:48 |
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oomichi | hogepodge: I see, thanks for the notification in advance before that | 17:48 |
hogepodge | Also, a version of this (amongst other things) will go go the board next week https://review.openstack.org/#/c/333067/ | 17:48 |
hogepodge | Any feedback or changes are welcome | 17:49 |
oomichi | andreaf: are you running tempest on macos? | 17:49 |
hogepodge | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/333067/ | 17:49 |
andreaf | oomichi: tempest unit tests | 17:49 |
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oomichi | hogepodge: ah, that is interesting for me. thanks again :) | 17:50 |
oomichi | andreaf: oh, ok. that's also interesting | 17:50 |
andreaf | a remoteclient test used to fail, I fixed it, it was green, but the new tempest run test is not passing, I guess tempest run may not work on mac | 17:50 |
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oomichi | andreaf: I am (not?) sure we can run unit tests on macos on the gate | 17:51 |
andreaf | oomichi: heh no, I don't think so | 17:51 |
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oomichi | andreaf: yeah, just kidding | 17:51 |
andreaf | oomichi: I'll just keep going back and fixing them when it makes sense | 17:52 |
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andreaf | :D | 17:52 |
oomichi | are there more topics? | 17:53 |
oomichi | or close the meeting early today | 17:53 |
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oomichi | 3... | 17:53 |
oomichi | 2.. | 17:54 |
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oomichi | 1.. | 17:54 |
oomichi | ok, thanks all | 17:54 |
oomichi | #endmeeting | 17:54 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jun 23 17:54:22 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:54 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2016/qa.2016-06-23-17.00.html | 17:54 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2016/qa.2016-06-23-17.00.txt | 17:54 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2016/qa.2016-06-23-17.00.log.html | 17:54 |
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oomichi | ah, the unexpected action is removed on "undo" | 17:55 |
oomichi | from the log | 17:55 |
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dtroyer | courtesy ping for OSC meeting: dhellmann, stevemar, terrylhowe, dstanek, MeganR, rtheis, DuncanT, sheel, jgregor, baumann | 19:01 |
dtroyer | #startmeeting openstackclient | 19:01 |
openstack | Meeting started Thu Jun 23 19:01:45 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dtroyer. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:01 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:01 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstackclient' | 19:01 |
rtheis_ | hi | 19:01 |
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dtroyer | rtheis_: do you want to be added to that list? I'm updating it now... | 19:02 |
rtheis_ | sorry, which list? | 19:03 |
dtroyer | the reminder ping list | 19:03 |
dtroyer | that I hadn't been using for a while | 19:03 |
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rtheis_ | sure, that's fine | 19:03 |
dtroyer | Its generally self-selected in the wiki page:https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/OpenStackClient#Regular_attendees | 19:04 |
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dtroyer | well, this may be quick anyway… | 19:05 |
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dtroyer | #topic releases | 19:05 |
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dtroyer | for osc-lib, I think it is time to do 0.2.0 | 19:06 |
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rtheis_ | sounds good to me, I just need to look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/333481/ | 19:06 |
dtroyer | I have one more thing to add yet that will move forward the OSC work for ksa/occ/osc rationalization | 19:06 |
dtroyer | #link https://review.openstack.org/333481 | 19:06 |
dtroyer | yes | 19:06 |
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dtroyer | for OSC, I'm not sure we will get 3.0 out before the end of June | 19:07 |
stevemar | o/ | 19:08 |
stevemar | end of june! | 19:08 |
stevemar | nice | 19:08 |
dtroyer | I've been pretty heads-down on the above, I think the biggest other thing is tangchen's IP commands | 19:08 |
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rtheis_ | I think those are getting close | 19:08 |
dtroyer | good, I need to refresh on them today | 19:08 |
stevemar | dtroyer: we told henrynash we would switch up the list role stuff today too | 19:09 |
stevemar | errr s/today// | 19:09 |
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dtroyer | right, and I have spent even less time on that yet | 19:09 |
dtroyer | have you guys looked at it? | 19:09 |
rtheis_ | I haven't | 19:10 |
rtheis_ | do you have a link? | 19:10 |
stevemar | rtheis_: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/283554/ | 19:11 |
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rtheis_ | thanks | 19:12 |
stevemar | i also think it'll be nice to have bug 1592906 fixed before 3.0.0 (not a deal breaker though) https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bug/1592906 | 19:12 |
openstack | bug 1592906 in python-openstackclient "ensure all delete commands can take multiple objects" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1592906 - Assigned to aohuanxuan (huanxuan-ao) | 19:12 |
dtroyer | is https://review.openstack.org/311460 part of it too? | 19:12 |
stevemar | dtroyer: yes, thats the other half | 19:13 |
dtroyer | so I think those are the three areas holding up 3.0 | 19:14 |
stevemar | i wouldn't consider the bulk delete to be a blocker | 19:15 |
dtroyer | I'm not | 19:15 |
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dtroyer | role list, ip commands, auth are the three | 19:16 |
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stevemar | ah | 19:16 |
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dtroyer | also, I'm going to be off for a few days either side of the 4th weekend so there's that too | 19:16 |
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dtroyer | meaning next week's meeting needs a host | 19:16 |
stevemar | dtroyer: release just before you go | 19:17 |
dtroyer | :) | 19:17 |
* stevemar volunteers rtheis_ to run it | 19:17 | |
rtheis_ | :) | 19:17 |
rtheis_ | I can run it | 19:17 |
dtroyer | at the rate we're going, it'll be you two | 19:17 |
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dtroyer | #topic reviews | 19:18 |
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dtroyer | are there other reviews we should talk about? | 19:18 |
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rtheis_ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/319518/ | 19:19 |
dtroyer | wow, I hadn't looked at the 'needs final +2' list in a few days… | 19:19 |
rtheis_ | sorry, wrong one | 19:19 |
stevemar | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/330742/ needs a final boot | 19:19 |
stevemar | and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/331843/ | 19:19 |
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rtheis_ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/319522/ | 19:20 |
rtheis_ | would like dtroyer opinion on command object | 19:20 |
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rtheis_ | we've looked at rbac, network rbac, and network rbac policy | 19:21 |
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dtroyer | ugh… I think what you have is least-bad of the options | 19:22 |
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dtroyer | it has some qualification, seems like adding 'policy' just makes it longer? | 19:23 |
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rtheis_ | yeah, I agree | 19:23 |
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dtroyer | stevemar: at a glance the two you listed should be Ok, I'll look after the meeting too | 19:25 |
stevemar | (sorry, on a call) | 19:25 |
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dtroyer | I'd like to point out https://review.openstack.org/331418 in os-client-config | 19:27 |
dtroyer | it is related to the osc-lib work, but not dependant | 19:27 |
dtroyer | there may be one or two more like it needed to finish moving the auth plugin loading to purely o-c-c though due to timing of stuffs | 19:28 |
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rtheis_ | ok | 19:29 |
dtroyer | I'm trying to layer the house of cards so we're not totally leaning on a single review chain | 19:29 |
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dtroyer | #topic bugs | 19:30 |
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dtroyer | other bugs to mention? | 19:30 |
rtheis_ | I don't have any | 19:30 |
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dtroyer | https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-openstackclient/+bug/1595616 came up in -sdks this morning, looks like designateclient registered some globals that caused havoc | 19:31 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1595616 in tripleo "Image building with --all is broken" [Critical,Triaged] | 19:31 |
dtroyer | our part here is going to be to dociment, and possibly test for this | 19:31 |
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dtroyer | bnemec is following up with designate folk | 19:32 |
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rtheis_ | ah yes, globals strike again | 19:32 |
rtheis_ | +1 to doc and test | 19:32 |
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dtroyer | #topic open discussion | 19:35 |
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dtroyer | anything else? | 19:35 |
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rtheis_ | nothing else from me | 19:35 |
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dtroyer | ok then, let's go get an early snack… | 19:36 |
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rtheis_ | sounds good | 19:36 |
dtroyer | thanks guys! | 19:36 |
dtroyer | #endmeeting | 19:36 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jun 23 19:36:46 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:36 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstackclient/2016/openstackclient.2016-06-23-19.01.html | 19:36 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstackclient/2016/openstackclient.2016-06-23-19.01.txt | 19:36 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstackclient/2016/openstackclient.2016-06-23-19.01.log.html | 19:36 |
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mriedem | #startmeeting nova | 21:01 |
openstack | Meeting started Thu Jun 23 21:01:06 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mriedem. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:01 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:01 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:01 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova' | 21:01 |
rlrossit | o/ | 21:01 |
auggy | o/ | 21:01 |
takashin | o/ | 21:01 |
doffm | o/ | 21:01 |
dims | o/ | 21:01 |
edleafe | \o | 21:01 |
lbeliveau | o/ | 21:01 |
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melwitt | o/ | 21:01 |
raj_singh | o/ | 21:01 |
jlvillal | o/ | 21:01 |
dansmith | o7 | 21:01 |
cdent | o/ | 21:01 |
tonyb | \o | 21:01 |
claudiub | \o/ | 21:01 |
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bauzas | \o | 21:01 |
scottda | hi | 21:01 |
mriedem | i will assume everyone is here | 21:02 |
mriedem | #link agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 21:02 |
mriedem | #topic release news | 21:02 |
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mriedem | #link Newton release schedule: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/Newton_Release_Schedule | 21:02 |
woodster_ | o/ | 21:02 |
mriedem | #info June 30: non-priority feature freeze (1 weeks from today) | 21:02 |
mriedem | We have 100 approved blueprints: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/newton - 18 are completed, 6 have not started, 2 are blocked | 21:02 |
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mriedem | any questions on that? | 21:03 |
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mriedem | i've been trying to focus reviews on non-priority bps the last two weeks | 21:03 |
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mriedem | we should have a big push to next thursday | 21:03 |
mriedem | #topic bugs | 21:03 |
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mriedem | the gate is stable | 21:03 |
mriedem | third party ci, virtuozzo says they got their stuff working again | 21:04 |
mriedem | they need to get their storage ci using os-brick from g-r | 21:04 |
mriedem | i haven't looked at the compute ci for vz | 21:04 |
mriedem | vmware still seems behind | 21:04 |
mriedem | tjones: are you around? | 21:05 |
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mriedem | critical bugs - i'm not aware of any | 21:05 |
tjones | yes | 21:05 |
tjones | yes it is | 21:05 |
mriedem | tjones: ok | 21:05 |
tjones | sorry | 21:05 |
tjones | working on it (as always) | 21:06 |
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mriedem | #topic stable branch status | 21:06 |
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mriedem | no major issues in the gate or in mitaka that i know of | 21:06 |
mriedem | liberty has a cve fix though, | 21:07 |
mriedem | which requires oslo.concurrency 2.6.1 | 21:07 |
mriedem | for mitaka we raised the minimum required oslo.concurrency to make that work by default in the requirements, | 21:07 |
mriedem | with liberty it's not very nice https://review.openstack.org/#/c/333403/ | 21:07 |
* tonyb was just reading that review | 21:07 | |
mriedem | because essentially it means the new minimum for oslo.concurrency in liberty would be the old max constraint | 21:08 |
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mriedem | along with a bunch of updated transitive deps | 21:08 |
mriedem | which sucks | 21:08 |
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mriedem | anyway, if you're interested in terrible things like that, read ^ | 21:08 |
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mriedem | #topic subteam highlights | 21:08 |
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mriedem | i didn't make the cells meeting yesterday but alaski said basically cells v2 just needs reviews | 21:09 |
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mriedem | with the freeze coming next thursday, i'm mostly planning on getting back to priorities after next week | 21:09 |
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mriedem | scheduler, | 21:09 |
mriedem | edleafe: around? | 21:10 |
edleafe | yes | 21:10 |
edleafe | Discussed yet another proposal for a shared-state scheduler that would allow for horizontal scaling without increased raciness | 21:10 |
edleafe | Will try to have preformance numbers by the midcycle for that | 21:10 |
mriedem | that's rlrossit right? | 21:10 |
bauzas | yup | 21:10 |
edleafe | yep | 21:10 |
edleafe | otherwise, same ol same ol | 21:10 |
bauzas | we said we shouldn't focus on the backend tho | 21:10 |
bauzas | tbc :) | 21:10 |
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edleafe | it's just POC for now | 21:11 |
mriedem | yeah | 21:11 |
edleafe | see if it's even meaningful | 21:11 |
mriedem | i have to sit with the guy every day so i've heard about it | 21:11 |
mriedem | regarding the placement api | 21:11 |
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mriedem | there is the big long thread in the ML | 21:11 |
cdent | on the placement api stuff: a) I'd like to apologize for being a dick b) sdague, mriedem and I came up with a short term plan that basically involves replacing routes with selector and seeing how it seems from there. | 21:11 |
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cdent | If people are keen on that plan, I'll make it go. | 21:12 |
mriedem | replacing selector with routes | 21:12 |
bauzas | I missed 2) but okay | 21:12 |
edleafe | cdent: other way around? | 21:12 |
cdent | edleafe: yes, sorry | 21:12 |
bauzas | was that discussed over IRC ? | 21:12 |
mriedem | yes | 21:12 |
mriedem | in -nova earlier today | 21:12 |
bauzas | k | 21:12 |
tonyb | okay that makes more sense | 21:12 |
mriedem | i haven't gone into the series in huge detail, sdague has reviewed more of it than me, | 21:13 |
mriedem | but i think we agreed that we didn't hate it :) | 21:13 |
tonyb | cdent: care to abandone the requirements review when you have time? | 21:13 |
bauzas | just tbc, replacing selector in the WIP patch ? | 21:13 |
mriedem | bauzas: yeah | 21:13 |
cdent | tonyb: ya, will do now | 21:13 |
bauzas | because I read the contrary :) | 21:13 |
bauzas | but okay | 21:13 |
mriedem | so i think we're looking for some incremental changes and then go from there | 21:13 |
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tonyb | cdent: danke kinda sir | 21:13 |
bauzas | you english guys drive left | 21:13 |
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bauzas | so that's fine to me if we all agree :) | 21:14 |
mriedem | cdent: are you going to be at the midcycle? | 21:14 |
cdent | mriedem: yes, I'm staying in the US between now and then | 21:14 |
mriedem | cdent: ok. hit a trump rally while you're here. | 21:14 |
mriedem | moving on | 21:14 |
mriedem | live migration, paul isn't here, but i attended | 21:14 |
edleafe | mriedem: so mean! | 21:15 |
cdent | hit as in "take care of"? | 21:15 |
anteaya | cdent: attend | 21:15 |
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mriedem | mdbooth pointed out that he suspects resize is busted in the libvirt storage refactor series | 21:15 |
mriedem | diana_clarke was going to work on a tempest test that verifies the size of disks before and after resize | 21:15 |
bauzas | busted, like doesn't work ? | 21:15 |
mriedem | in case the api is lying | 21:15 |
mriedem | bauzas: yeah, doesn't actually resize | 21:15 |
mriedem | but the api doesn't fail | 21:15 |
dansmith | mriedem: that set is also broken for lvm | 21:16 |
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mriedem | dansmith: ooo | 21:16 |
mriedem | news to me | 21:16 |
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bauzas | funny | 21:16 |
dansmith | mriedem: well, actually, not sure if it's lvm or not, but one of the experimental tests shows a ton of traces in n-cpu.log | 21:16 |
mriedem | mdbooth already posted a bug for resize being broken with ephemeral disks, as in trunk today | 21:16 |
dansmith | at least one I sould say | 21:16 |
mriedem | and diana said the series just needed more review | 21:16 |
dansmith | related traces | 21:16 |
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dansmith | yeah, well... | 21:17 |
mriedem | i rechecked with 'flat' backend today too but didn't check results yet | 21:17 |
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dansmith | those seemed to be okay when I looked | 21:17 |
mriedem | yeah, again, it's a priority series so it will live past next week | 21:17 |
dansmith | not too surprising though I think | 21:17 |
dansmith | yep | 21:17 |
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mriedem | oh, the other thing from that meeting | 21:17 |
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mriedem | tdurakov had a change up to add the live migration job to nova's check queue, non-voting | 21:18 |
mriedem | so we can get a better idea of how stable that is in the basic config | 21:18 |
mriedem | that merged https://review.openstack.org/#/c/332175/ | 21:18 |
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mriedem | i think that's it for LM - some of the other bp changes needed tempest testing | 21:19 |
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mriedem | api | 21:19 |
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mriedem | sdague: around? | 21:19 |
mriedem | nope, ok i was at that one | 21:19 |
mriedem | mostly, the api extension folding is happening | 21:19 |
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mriedem | the first one for disk-config is close to merged | 21:19 |
mriedem | api-ref cleanup is moving slowly - we talked about a sprint in early august | 21:20 |
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mriedem | and alex_xu is working on the proxy api deprecations, which we agreed should land at the same time (same microverison for all of them) | 21:20 |
mriedem | and the policy defaults in code series is moving | 21:21 |
mriedem | i don't think there was an sriov/pci meeting this week | 21:21 |
mriedem | notifications: rlrossit? | 21:21 |
rlrossit | wrap_exceptions got merged earlier this week | 21:21 |
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rlrossit | instance.delete notification is getting close and could use some eyes | 21:22 |
rlrossit | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/313654/ | 21:22 |
rlrossit | there have been a lot of follow-up patches to that one | 21:22 |
rlrossit | but we aren't looking to get those in this release | 21:22 |
rlrossit | we also have an o.vo patch that I think is good to go | 21:22 |
rlrossit | would be nice to get nova guys to take a look at that since it's related to this initiative | 21:23 |
rlrossit | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/318950/ | 21:23 |
rlrossit | I think that's about it | 21:23 |
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mriedem | gibi also reported some bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1595575 | 21:23 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1595575 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "The hash of a notification object does not depend on its SCHEMA" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Balazs Gibizer (balazs-gibizer) | 21:23 |
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rlrossit | ah, didn't see that | 21:23 |
rlrossit | I worked to get that in, so I'll probably have to take a look at that | 21:24 |
mriedem | ok | 21:24 |
mriedem | thanks | 21:24 |
mriedem | #topic stuck reviews | 21:24 |
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mriedem | there was nothing on the agenda | 21:24 |
mriedem | #topic open discussion | 21:25 |
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mriedem | nothing on the agenda | 21:25 |
mriedem | anyone have anything? | 21:25 |
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mriedem | ok, let's end it then | 21:25 |
mriedem | thanks everyone | 21:25 |
mriedem | #endmeeting | 21:25 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jun 23 21:25:43 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:25 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2016/nova.2016-06-23-21.01.html | 21:25 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2016/nova.2016-06-23-21.01.txt | 21:25 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2016/nova.2016-06-23-21.01.log.html | 21:25 |
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dougwig | o | 21:59 |
dougwig | o/ | 21:59 |
dougwig | any drivers about today? | 21:59 |
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dougwig | ping amuller, kevinbenton, HenryG, amotoki | 22:00 |
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amotoki | o/ | 22:00 |
HenryG | o/ | 22:00 |
kevinbenton | o/ | 22:00 |
dougwig | #startmeeting neutron_drivers | 22:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Thu Jun 23 22:00:45 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dougwig. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 22:00 |
johnsom | o/ | 22:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 22:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_drivers' | 22:00 |
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dougwig | welcome to neutron drivers, specs edition. | 22:01 |
dougwig | armax asked us to take a pass through the open specs, instead of RFEs, this week. | 22:01 |
HenryG | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/neutron-specs+status:open ? | 22:02 |
dougwig | so, without further ado, hopefully this isn't the first time we've seen them all, vote, or punt, or let's have whatever discussions we need to have: | 22:02 |
dougwig | Add flavor support to the L3 plugin | 22:02 |
dougwig | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/105078/ | 22:02 |
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dougwig | kevinbenton: how this one going? | 22:03 |
kevinbenton | dougwig: going along. doing some groundwork for exception handling stuff for callbacks | 22:03 |
kevinbenton | dougwig: need to sync up with armax when he gets back to go over some interface stuff | 22:03 |
kevinbenton | dougwig: still a few weeks out | 22:04 |
dougwig | anything contentious, or anything we can nudge along? | 22:04 |
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kevinbenton | no, nothing that like | 22:04 |
* carl_baldwin wanders in late. He's sorry he wasn't watching the clock. | 22:04 | |
dougwig | no worries, it just means your chair next week. | 22:04 |
dougwig | next up, Diagnostics of Neutron components | 22:05 |
dougwig | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/308973/ | 22:05 |
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dougwig | this looks far from consensus. | 22:05 |
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dougwig | just judging from recent comment volume. | 22:06 |
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amotoki | is amuller the right person to ask the status? | 22:07 |
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dougwig | yes. though looking at it, i'm guessing we're not going to see any code in newton. | 22:07 |
dougwig | let's move to some smaller stuff. | 22:08 |
dougwig | Minimum bandwidth support (egress) | 22:08 |
dougwig | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/316082/ | 22:08 |
dougwig | lots of activity, but no drivers have commented yet. | 22:08 |
amotoki | In my understanding, API and general direction are agreed. i think now they are discussing more technical details on ovs impl. | 22:09 |
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HenryG | Does it depend on a generic flow classifier (which may be its own BP/RFE)? | 22:10 |
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amotoki | I don't think there is an depedency to generic FC. | 22:10 |
HenryG | OK | 22:11 |
amotoki | as far as I reviewed a week ago. | 22:11 |
dougwig | these first few are high priorities for newton, so i expect they're more active. later on, we get to some fun ones that seems to bypass our rfe process. | 22:12 |
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dougwig | moving on. Enhanced Network/Subnet DHCP Options | 22:12 |
dougwig | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/247027/ | 22:12 |
amotoki | aga... i forgot to respond to sam | 22:12 |
dougwig | looks like amotoki has been active in this one. | 22:13 |
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dougwig | Added a note on OSC client coverage for new CLI features | 22:13 |
dougwig | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/331592/ | 22:13 |
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dougwig | in openstack's continuing quest to constantly change interfaces, here we go. | 22:13 |
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amotoki | just a note. in a neutronclient review, there is a discussion on whether we should have a feature in OSC itself or OSC plugin in neutronclient repo. | 22:15 |
dougwig | as in, whether we implement new neutron commands in the osc repo, or via some plugin, or what? | 22:15 |
amotoki | the dicsussion happens for vlan-aware-vm OSC support. | 22:16 |
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dougwig | what's the current plan? | 22:16 |
amotoki | armando suggested to implement it as OSC plugin in neutronclient. | 22:16 |
HenryG | +1 | 22:17 |
dougwig | so, new commands will be osc only, then? | 22:17 |
amotoki | the current general consensus seems that experimental features in neutron repo should go to neutornclient (OSC plugin) | 22:17 |
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amotoki | neutron CLI is optional. | 22:18 |
dougwig | ok. amotoki, are you going to follow the spec above? 311592 ? | 22:19 |
amotoki | sure | 22:19 |
dougwig | L2 extension ovs flow management | 22:19 |
dougwig | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/320439/ | 22:19 |
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dougwig | this one also has code in gerrit. | 22:21 |
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amotoki | this one requires discussion as code. I am not sure we land it in newton. | 22:23 |
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amotoki | how many efforts depend on this? | 22:23 |
dougwig | it's an approved rfe, but i didn't see it targeted for newton. | 22:24 |
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dougwig | alright, here's one that usually gets people arguing - (Operator-only) Logging API for security groups | 22:24 |
dougwig | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/203509/ | 22:24 |
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dougwig | and it is targeted at n-2 | 22:24 |
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dougwig | is this headed in the right direction, or do we need to give it some guidance? | 22:27 |
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kevinbenton | I haven't had a chance to review this one for awhile | 22:28 |
kevinbenton | Need to see the latest state | 22:28 |
amotoki | last time i checked (two weeks ago), it wasn't in a wrong direction. | 22:29 |
kevinbenton | I think everyone was okay with the feature, the issue was decoupling the logging implementation from the API | 22:29 |
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dougwig | alright. maybe we'll breeze through the ones with lots of activity here. | 22:29 |
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dougwig | Spec for distributed portbindings | 22:29 |
dougwig | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/309416/ | 22:29 |
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kevinbenton | Also need to review this | 22:30 |
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dougwig | this one is about binding a port to multiple hosts, for migration, though failover can't be far behind. | 22:30 |
kevinbenton | Well also to make DVR less special | 22:30 |
dougwig | which starts to look like loadbalancing, too. | 22:31 |
kevinbenton | Right now it's special cased everywhere | 22:31 |
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dougwig | i'm all for fewer snowflakes. | 22:31 |
carl_baldwin | I also need to read this. Was starting to review the code patches. | 22:31 |
dougwig | ok. | 22:31 |
johnsom | If this fixes the DVR FLIP bug I would be a happy camper | 22:31 |
dougwig | here's one that i'm surprised is still kicking around: | 22:32 |
dougwig | Add timestamp to neutron extension resources | 22:32 |
dougwig | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/223988/ | 22:32 |
carl_baldwin | johnsom: Which bug? | 22:32 |
kevinbenton | johnsom: that refers to about 100 bugs, need to be more specific | 22:32 |
kevinbenton | :) | 22:32 |
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dougwig | haha | 22:32 |
johnsom | Ah, sorry, Floating IPs don't work with allowed address pairs ports when DVR is enabled | 22:32 |
kevinbenton | Ah, right | 22:32 |
dougwig | timestamp spec was last updated 7 weeks ago, has no +1's even. anyone here want to champion it, or shall we abandon? | 22:32 |
kevinbenton | dougwig: I might look at it | 22:33 |
kevinbenton | dougwig: we already have timestamps on core resources | 22:33 |
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kevinbenton | dougwig: and timestamps likely already exist on the models for them | 22:33 |
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kevinbenton | dougwig: it's just a matter of API exposure I think | 22:33 |
dougwig | id's and timestamps on every db object is one of those things that's a no-brainer to me, so i'm suprised it's been open so long. | 22:33 |
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kevinbenton | I'll ping on the spec to see if submitter is still interested | 22:34 |
dougwig | ok | 22:34 |
dougwig | next one came out of summit discussions, and was just revised. LBaaS project spinout | 22:35 |
dougwig | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/310805/ | 22:35 |
kevinbenton | johnsom: I'm not sure if that will solve the floating ip bug btw | 22:35 |
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amotoki | Re Lbaas spinout, I haven't caught up with the whole discussion. do we all agree to spinout? | 22:37 |
dougwig | i don't think it was controversial. | 22:37 |
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kevinbenton | Yeah, it's okay with me. | 22:38 |
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dougwig | next up, ipv6 fun. Spec for IPv6 support in metadata service | 22:39 |
dougwig | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/315604/ | 22:39 |
amotoki | it's okay to me too. one thing to note is about db migration. how can we migrate neutron migration to loadbalancer project? | 22:39 |
amotoki | i'lll leave a comment on the review. | 22:39 |
dougwig | metadata always goes to ipv4 today, i take it? | 22:39 |
dougwig | amotoki: thanks | 22:39 |
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kevinbenton | Metadata service needs to match whatever cloud init does | 22:39 |
kevinbenton | IIRC cloud init doesn't request via ipv6 | 22:40 |
kevinbenton | So what does this accomplish? | 22:40 |
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johnsom | kevinbenton yeah, I agree looking at it | 22:40 |
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dougwig | it looks like they're trying to define an ipv6 mechanism, which then cloud-init or config drive would have to support, right? does config drive even care about v4 vs v6? | 22:41 |
HenryG | I think the thought is to support IPv6 only environments. | 22:41 |
kevinbenton | Config drive doesn't use metadata | 22:41 |
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kevinbenton | But cloud init would require a change | 22:41 |
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kevinbenton | Which we don't own | 22:41 |
kevinbenton | So this requires coordination with cloud init devs | 22:42 |
dougwig | config drive is just another way to shove metadata in, though. it obsoletes cloud-init magic URLs. | 22:42 |
carl_baldwin | This has come up a bunch of times before, right? | 22:42 |
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kevinbenton | I know, but this is the metadata service we are talking about, not cloud init | 22:42 |
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amotoki | but we need to sync cloud-init :) | 22:43 |
kevinbenton | harlowja: I summon thee! | 22:43 |
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haleyb | i had a number of comments on this spec, mostly about basically creating a well-known IPv6 address that is used for metadata, that usually requires an rfc | 22:43 |
harlowja | soul please | 22:44 |
harlowja | lol | 22:44 |
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kevinbenton | harlowja: we want cloud init changes | 22:44 |
harlowja | soul please? | 22:44 |
harlowja | lol | 22:44 |
njohnston | It's ALIVE!! | 22:44 |
harlowja | sup | 22:44 |
kevinbenton | IPv6 cloud init support | 22:44 |
harlowja | k | 22:44 |
kevinbenton | CAN IT BE DONE? | 22:44 |
harlowja | should work | 22:44 |
harlowja | already did it, lol | 22:44 |
dougwig | harlowja: see here - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/315604/ | 22:45 |
kevinbenton | Oh, you should comment on spec then | 22:45 |
dougwig | we were just discussing if it makes any sense / needs direction / whatnot. | 22:45 |
harlowja | ah, u want it in the metadata service | 22:45 |
harlowja | so there is network_data.json that has this already | 22:45 |
dougwig | the spec does, i'm not sure we do. | 22:45 |
harlowja | or should have it | 22:45 |
kevinbenton | Yeah, right now cloud init does 169.254.169.254 | 22:46 |
kevinbenton | We need a well know IPv6 only mechanism | 22:46 |
harlowja | oh that address | 22:46 |
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harlowja | not the configuration of the network that the VM gets | 22:46 |
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dougwig | alright, we've stirred the pot on this one, let's take it to the spec. | 22:47 |
dougwig | next up, Add Unicast Flooding Vteps to Provider Network | 22:47 |
dougwig | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/282180/ | 22:47 |
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kevinbenton | harlowja: thx | 22:47 |
* harlowja is already dust | 22:47 | |
harlowja | lol | 22:47 |
dougwig | heh | 22:48 |
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dougwig | that vtep spec sounds like a similar use case to l2gw, doesn't it? | 22:48 |
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kevinbenton | dougwig: it's a little different | 22:49 |
kevinbenton | dougwig: right now we just have inferred targets for VXLAN | 22:49 |
kevinbenton | dougwig: based on agent IP addresses, etc | 22:49 |
kevinbenton | dougwig: bringing them into binding makes it more explicit | 22:49 |
kevinbenton | and easier interop between different devices | 22:49 |
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kevinbenton | (e.g. a top of rack switch, a router, whatever) | 22:50 |
kevinbenton | or even different vswitch types | 22:50 |
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dougwig | kevinbenton: ok, want to take a crack at reviewing that spec later? | 22:51 |
kevinbenton | yeah | 22:51 |
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kevinbenton | i have already reviewed some of the patches | 22:51 |
dougwig | ok. | 22:52 |
kevinbenton | didn't realize they actually did have a spec for it | 22:52 |
dougwig | we have 8 minutes to squeeze in some RFE's, unless anyone had any comments on any of the prior specs. | 22:52 |
dougwig | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?field.status%3Alist=Confirmed&field.tag=rfe | 22:52 |
kevinbenton | No rfes! I'm drowning! | 22:52 |
carl_baldwin | +1 | 22:53 |
carl_baldwin | :) | 22:53 |
amotoki | :) | 22:53 |
amotoki | we need to request BGP folks to revisit BGP related RFEs. | 22:53 |
dougwig | heh, ok, we'll punt RFE's until next time. | 22:54 |
carl_baldwin | amotoki: We did revisit those. | 22:54 |
dougwig | please use the extra six minutes, and more today/tomorrow, and give specs reviews some love. | 22:54 |
carl_baldwin | I'm wondering why we're going through the list of Confirmed instead of Triaged. | 22:54 |
amotoki | carl_baldwin: nice. thanks | 22:54 |
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carl_baldwin | I moved most of the BGP specs to Confirmed to get them off the Triaged list. | 22:54 |
dougwig | carl_baldwin: i was stealing the link from last meeitng, and noticed it was the wrong list. | 22:54 |
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carl_baldwin | But, maybe I still don't understand our process. | 22:55 |
carl_baldwin | :) | 22:55 |
amotoki | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?field.status%3Alist=Triaged&field.tag=rfe | 22:55 |
dougwig | thanks amotoki | 22:55 |
dougwig | ok, happy spec reviewing. | 22:55 |
dougwig | #endmeeting | 22:56 |
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openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2016/neutron_drivers.2016-06-23-22.00.html | 22:56 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2016/neutron_drivers.2016-06-23-22.00.txt | 22:56 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2016/neutron_drivers.2016-06-23-22.00.log.html | 22:56 |
kevinbenton | Thz | 22:56 |
kevinbenton | Thx | 22:56 |
amotoki | thanks | 22:56 |
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