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| thinrichs | Hi all. Time for Congress. | 00:01 |
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| thinrichs | courtesy ping: ekcs, tsandall, ramineni, masahito | 00:02 |
| ekcs | hi | 00:02 |
| tsandall | hello! | 00:02 |
| masahito | hi | 00:02 |
| ramineni_ | thinrichs: hi | 00:02 |
| thinrichs | #startmeeting CongressTeamMeeting | 00:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Apr 21 00:02:37 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is thinrichs. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 00:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 00:02 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'congressteammeeting' | 00:02 |
| thinrichs | My agenda for today... | 00:03 |
| thinrichs | 1. Austin | 00:03 |
| thinrichs | 2. distributed arch | 00:03 |
| thinrichs | 3. action items from last week | 00:04 |
| thinrichs | Anything else? | 00:04 |
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| thinrichs | #topic Austin | 00:05 |
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| thinrichs | Most important item for the day :) | 00:06 |
| thinrichs | ekcs: how are the dinner plans going? | 00:06 |
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| ekcs | Food: I'm thinking this place: a nice texas BBQ place about 10 minutes walk away (we can take a cab if it's too hot to walk). What do you guys think? #link: http://www.lambertsaustin.com/menus/ | 00:06 |
| ekcs | Scheduling: Monday and Tuesday there are evening events. So I'm thinking either Wednesday or Thursday (maybe depending on which day the cores have core party). What do you guys prefer? | 00:06 |
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| tsandall | texas BBQ sounds delicious... | 00:08 |
| thinrichs | ramineni: how does that menu look for you? | 00:08 |
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| ramineni_ | thinrichs: looks ok .. we can go for it | 00:10 |
| thinrichs | I was trying to check into the core approver party; couldn't find an email; maybe I wasn't invited or maybe there isn't one? | 00:11 |
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| ekcs | their non pork/beef items are: Half Local Chicken, Cold Smoked Rainbow Trout, Fresh Market Gulf Fish, Jumbo Gulf Shrimp & Grits, Cold Smoked Lockhart Quail, ... | 00:11 |
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| thinrichs | I'd lean toward Wed, since we'll have finished all our sessions that day. Seems a good reason to celebrate. | 00:11 |
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| thinrichs | But both should be fine, as long as they're after 6p. | 00:12 |
| masahito | I prefer Wed, but of course both work for me. | 00:12 |
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| ramineni_ | ekcs: thanks :) , sounds good | 00:13 |
| ramineni_ | ekcs: never tried that kind of dishes though :P | 00:13 |
| thinrichs | ekcs: thanks for doing the research. Looks delicious! | 00:13 |
| thinrichs | ramineni: it'll be an adventure for all of us, I'm sure. | 00:13 |
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| ramineni_ | thinrichs: yes :) | 00:14 |
| thinrichs | ekcs: can we get reservations? | 00:14 |
| ramineni_ | both works for me too | 00:14 |
| ramineni_ | wed and thurs | 00:15 |
| ekcs | ok so we’re going with Wednesday then? Yea that was one of my requirements: that they take reservation. | 00:15 |
| ekcs | places would be packed during convention nights. | 00:15 |
| thinrichs | ekcs: Yes to Wed | 00:15 |
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| thinrichs | Heard no objections and 2 prefs for Wed | 00:16 |
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| ekcs | ok then! | 00:17 |
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| thinrichs | On with the other Austin items... | 00:18 |
| thinrichs | We have a meeting scheduled with Vintrage for 3-4p on Thu. Location unknown. | 00:18 |
| thinrichs | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Vitrage | 00:19 |
| thinrichs | That's right after a series of talks on Congress and similar projects. | 00:19 |
| thinrichs | Wed our sessions run from 11-3:30p | 00:20 |
| thinrichs | Search for "Congress" on the schedule for more details. | 00:20 |
| thinrichs | •https://www.openstack.org/summit/austin-2016/summit-schedule/global-search?t=congress | 00:20 |
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| ekcs | Great! | 00:21 |
| thinrichs | The sessions we're planning on are focused on (i) integrations with other projects (fabiog's Monasca and policy-aware nova scheduling are on the agenda) | 00:21 |
| thinrichs | (ii) appraising the state of the distributed arch and what we need to do to get the first version running | 00:22 |
| thinrichs | (iii) a session for pair programming to knock off some of those todos | 00:22 |
| thinrichs | (iv) a session on designing the deployment to achieve high availability and high throughput using the distributed arch | 00:23 |
| thinrichs | What do we think of that? | 00:23 |
| thinrichs | Is it worth having a programming session? Or is there another topic we should consider? | 00:23 |
| thinrichs | For example, we could discuss priorities for non distributed-arch work for the upcoming cycle… | 00:24 |
| thinrichs | e.g. horizon plugin, adding keystone session support to our client (if we don't have it), etc. | 00:25 |
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| ekcs | Hmmm. | 00:25 |
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| ekcs | If we think we can switch over to new_arch in-mem while we’re there, that would be really cool to do. | 00:26 |
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| masahito | Or brain storming for another feature? | 00:26 |
| ekcs | but not sure it’s best use of work session time because I’m not sure how much coordination we need. for that. | 00:27 |
| thinrichs | ekcs: agreed | 00:27 |
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| thinrichs | masahito: maybe talking through the push driver and trying to figure out how to make it work for any schema? | 00:27 |
| ramineni_ | ya, or may be we could plan/discuss for possible working items/features targeted for next release apart from dist_arch | 00:28 |
| masahito | thinrichs: that's sounds nice. | 00:29 |
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| thinrichs | ramineni_: agreed | 00:29 |
| masahito | thinrichs: I think it's not need to use whole one session for the topic. | 00:29 |
| thinrichs | Let's use one of the sessions then to discuss non dist-arch features in the upcoming release. | 00:30 |
| ekcs | great. | 00:30 |
| thinrichs | That means everyone should come to the meeting with features they would like to see finished in the next cycle. | 00:30 |
| thinrichs | #action Everyone will prepare a list of features to consider developing in the next cycle | 00:30 |
| thinrichs | #action thinrichs will update the session description | 00:31 |
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| thinrichs | Also for the High availability and High throughput session, | 00:32 |
| thinrichs | everyone should think through how we might deploy Congress assuming the new distributed architecture is in place | 00:32 |
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| thinrichs | We want to start that discussion with everyone already having spent a few hours thinking through the issues. | 00:33 |
| ekcs | great. | 00:33 |
| thinrichs | #action Everyone will come up with a design for deploying Congress to meet High availability and high throughput requirements | 00:34 |
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| thinrichs | That's it for me on the Austin topic. Anything else? | 00:34 |
| ekcs | back to dinner real quick, what’d be a good time? 6:30? 7? | 00:34 |
| thinrichs | I'd say 6:30 | 00:35 |
| ramineni_ | 6:30 | 00:35 |
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| ekcs | okay. | 00:35 |
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| thinrichs1 | Seems I was disconnected for a bit. | 00:37 |
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| thinrichs1 | Did anyone else vote while I was gone? If not let's say 6:30p | 00:38 |
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| ekcs | ramineni_: said 6:30. didnt hear from masahito | 00:38 |
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| thinrichs1 | Seems IRC is having some trouble. | 00:39 |
| thinrichs1 | masahito: you still here? | 00:39 |
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| thinrichs1 | tsandall: how about you? | 00:39 |
| masahito | yes | 00:39 |
| tsandall | i'm here | 00:39 |
| tsandall | 6:30pm is fine for me | 00:39 |
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| masahito | 6:30 works | 00:39 |
| thinrichs1 | Ok, so let's go with 6:30 and hope IRC stays up | 00:39 |
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| thinrichs1 | Moving on... | 00:40 |
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| thinrichs1 | #topic distributed-arch | 00:40 |
| thinrichs1 | We're pushing code on this again, which is good. | 00:40 |
| thinrichs1 | Shall we do quick status updates, bringing up discussion points as we go? | 00:40 |
| thinrichs1 | masahito: want to start? | 00:40 |
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| masahito | yes | 00:41 |
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| masahito | I pushed codes which enables Congress start with distributed_arch flag is true | 00:41 |
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| masahito | because of some constraints the flag didn't work correctly if we set True in devstack before the patch. | 00:43 |
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| masahito | that's from my side. | 00:43 |
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| thinrichs1 | ramineni: want to go? | 00:44 |
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| ramineni_ | thinrichs1: no, havent had much progress on dist_arch this week, have worked only on gate failures | 00:45 |
| thinrichs1 | ramineni_: anything you've been working on here is good, not just dist_arch | 00:45 |
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| ramineni_ | thinrichs1: ok, and I have worked on the action items of last week | 00:47 |
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| ramineni_ | thinrichs1: thats it from my side | 00:48 |
| thinrichs1 | Anything to report on the action items? | 00:48 |
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| thinrichs1 | Running short on time... | 00:49 |
| thinrichs1 | ekcs: status update | 00:49 |
| ramineni_ | thinrichs1: now the gates should be green , after the fix we thought of skipping ceilometer tests on stable branches | 00:50 |
| ramineni_ | thinrichs1: all green for now | 00:50 |
| thinrichs1 | ramineni_: great! | 00:50 |
| ekcs | sequenced, differential update in dse2: #link: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/304991/ | 00:50 |
| ekcs | Key issue is whether to put the sequencing logic in DseNode or DataService. The patch has it in DataService, but Masahito suggested putting into DseNode. I agree it's a good idea. | 00:50 |
| ekcs | (un)subhandler for dse2: #link: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/285628/ | 00:50 |
| ekcs | Main discussion issue is whether to check for changes to which tables have subscribers on each heartbeat, or check only when (un)subscribe_table makes an RPC call to the publishing DataService. Masahito feels it is wasteful to check on every heartbeat. But I think the additional cost is not a significant issue. | 00:50 |
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| thinrichs1 | differential update: top priority for me is hiding that from the datasource/policy-engine code | 00:52 |
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| thinrichs1 | Might be valuable down the road to enable a datasource to overload the wire-protocol being used, which would mean the code needs to belong to the DataService. | 00:53 |
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| thinrichs1 | Nothing jumps to mind as to why it's better in the DseNode | 00:53 |
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| ekcs | thinrichs1: agreed. both approaches makes it transparent to the drivers and policy engines. | 00:53 |
| thinrichs1 | unsubhandler: I'd start with the simpler code that ensures the behavior is correct. | 00:54 |
| thinrichs1 | Optimizing too much as this point is worrisome until we have everything working end-to-end. | 00:55 |
| thinrichs1 | So I'd lean toward correctness over speed right now. | 00:55 |
| ekcs | thinrichs1: the main reason for putting into DseNode would be to avoid duplicating data structure and processing when multiple DataServices is the same node subscribes to the same tables. But I don’t think it’s very significant, if you think there is a reason for datasource to override. | 00:55 |
| thinrichs1 | Easier to optimize once we have correctness and tests in place | 00:55 |
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| ekcs | masahito had another reason he preferred it in DseNode but I didn’t quite understand that reason. | 00:56 |
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| thinrichs1 | ekcs on differential updates: that makes sense. Seems that the DseNode is a better place for the code. | 00:56 |
| thinrichs1 | Quick update from me, as we're short on time… | 00:56 |
| masahito | ekcs: I'll put the details about it on gerrit. | 00:56 |
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| thinrichs1 | I'm working on a new harness that stitches together the API, datasources, and policy engine so they're running on the Dse2. | 00:57 |
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| thinrichs1 | Main change is that… | 00:57 |
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| thinrichs1 | All of the API models are no longer DataService instances; they are all combined into 1 DataService. | 00:57 |
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| thinrichs1 | Did that since the API router can then multiplex to the proper model without sending a message on the bus | 00:59 |
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| thinrichs1 | The model still sends messages on the bus to the datasource or policy engine, of course. | 00:59 |
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| thinrichs1 | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/280424/ | 01:00 |
| thinrichs1 | Out of time for today. | 01:00 |
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| thinrichs1 | We're cancelling next week's meeting since we'll all be in Austin | 01:00 |
| thinrichs1 | Looking forward to seeing everyone face-to-face next week! | 01:00 |
| thinrichs1 | Safe travels! | 01:00 |
| ekcs | awesome | 01:00 |
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| thinrichs1 | #endmeeting | 01:01 |
| masahito | see you in Austin! | 01:01 |
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| thinrichs1 | #chair thinrichs1 | 01:01 |
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| thinrichs1 | #endmeeting | 01:01 |
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| thinrichs1 | #endmeeting | 01:02 |
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| thinrichs1 | #endmeeting | 01:03 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Apr 21 01:03:20 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 01:03 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2016/congressteammeeting.2016-04-21-00.02.html | 01:03 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2016/congressteammeeting.2016-04-21-00.02.txt | 01:03 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2016/congressteammeeting.2016-04-21-00.02.log.html | 01:03 |
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| gmann | #startmeeting qa | 09:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Apr 21 09:00:06 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gmann. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 09:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: qa)" | 09:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'qa' | 09:00 |
| gmann | hi who's here for today? | 09:00 |
| masayukig | \o/ | 09:00 |
| gmann | masayukig: hi | 09:00 |
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| jordanP | hi | 09:01 |
| gmann | jordanP: hi | 09:01 |
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| gmann | Let's wait for some time for more people to join otherwise we can finish early today | 09:02 |
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| dmellado | hi guys ;) | 09:02 |
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| gmann | dmellado: hi | 09:02 |
| gmann | let's start | 09:03 |
| gmann | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/QATeamMeeting#Agenda_for_April_21st_2016_.280900_UTC.29 | 09:03 |
| gmann | ^^ today agenda | 09:03 |
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| gmann | #topic Specs Reviews | 09:03 |
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| gmann | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/qa-specs,n,z | 09:04 |
| gmann | seems like all spec are under review with author updates | 09:04 |
| gmann | I do not have much on that, anyone want to discuss any spec | 09:04 |
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| gmann | ok, let's jump to next | 09:06 |
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| gmann | #topic Tempest | 09:06 |
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| gmann | so most of them patches are in good review | 09:07 |
| jordanP | I'd like to have some eyes on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/304024/ (Replace Mox with Mock) | 09:07 |
| * masayukig thinks it'll be a short meeting this time | 09:07 | |
| gmann | jordanP: sure. | 09:07 |
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| gmann | i might check but tomorrow. | 09:08 |
| dmellado | jordanP: I'll have a look over the long flight xD | 09:08 |
| masayukig | jordanP: should we have a Hacking rule for it? | 09:08 |
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| jordanP | no hacking rule, let's just not reintroduce mox in test-requirements.txt | 09:09 |
| masayukig | jordanP: ah, i see | 09:09 |
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| jordanP | btw, we should be conservative with any addition to requirements.txt | 09:09 |
| gmann | yea that will avoid that | 09:09 |
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| jordanP | adding new requirements are costly | 09:10 |
| gmann | jordanP: quick question | 09:10 |
| gmann | why not use mockpatch from oslotest with fixture | 09:10 |
| jordanP | I think that's what I use most of the time | 09:11 |
| gmann | seems this is done already there - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/304024/2/tempest/tests/lib/base.py | 09:11 |
| gmann | jordanP: you are using self.patchobject | 09:11 |
| jordanP | in general, I prefer to use native library (mock is in stdlib in python3) than any 3rd party library | 09:12 |
| jordanP | oslotest and fixture are 3rd party libraries | 09:12 |
| jordanP | if we can do stuff using just the python standard library, it's usually better | 09:12 |
| masayukig | jordanP: +1 | 09:13 |
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| gmann | ok, ll check that later in detail. | 09:13 |
| gmann | we might need to do more cleanup on that as we use oslotest in many places too | 09:14 |
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| dmellado | yep, +1 on that, maybe we should change gmann link | 09:14 |
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| gmann | dmellado: sorry did not get :) | 09:15 |
| dmellado | gmann: so I was referring to change what is on base.py to use also standard library (again, cleanup ;)) | 09:15 |
| gmann | dmellado: ohk | 09:16 |
| gmann | ok | 09:16 |
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| gmann | i have another which fixing the false pass from expected_success method | 09:16 |
| gmann | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/306919/3 | 09:16 |
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| gmann | but before this need to fix Ironic plugin and tempest baremetal tests | 09:17 |
| gmann | which i just loaded | 09:17 |
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| gmann | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/308855/ | 09:17 |
| gmann | it will be very quick | 09:17 |
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| gmann | anything else | 09:19 |
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| gmann | dmellado: you are ok with venev script on your CI now | 09:19 |
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| dmellado | gmann: yes, I'm fine now, we'll refactor the wrapper code and reapply, so no worries | 09:19 |
| gmann | dmellado: actually that patches waited for around 4 month because of same concern in rally as you have | 09:19 |
| gmann | dmellado: cool | 09:20 |
| dmellado | gmann: tbh, I missed it | 09:20 |
| dmellado | but I guess that it would've been fine to mark it as 'deprecated' | 09:20 |
| dmellado | before removing it | 09:20 |
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| gmann | dmellado: yea, thats normal thing :) for all of us | 09:20 |
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| gmann | dmellado: actually those were oslo script, we just had copy of those | 09:20 |
| tosky | moreover, as we are mainly testing rpms, we probably don't even need the venv | 09:20 |
| gmann | same like other projects | 09:20 |
| dmellado | gmann: I see, I mean, for other tools, there was a deprecation mark for a couple of months | 09:21 |
| dmellado | so maybe a deprecation mark would've been good | 09:21 |
| gmann | tosky: yea but we need in many places depends on user usage | 09:21 |
| dmellado | tosky: yep, but we do also use git, not only rpm | 09:21 |
| dmellado | so some jobs got affected | 09:21 |
| gmann | directly git install need those | 09:21 |
| gmann | dmellado: yea | 09:21 |
| gmann | dmellado: for tempest own interfaces we always use deprecation | 09:22 |
| jordanP | (I didn"t follow this subject closely, but ironic code in tempest should go away into a plugin) | 09:22 |
| gmann | jordanP: yea i fixed there too master and mitaka | 09:22 |
| dmellado | gmann: jordanP in terms of plugins too, do we have a track of plugin-enabled projects? | 09:23 |
| gmann | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/Ic4b0af5701df99621e3abb693644c4824c92dc4c,n,z | 09:23 |
| jordanP | yeah but we (the tempest core team) have no way to easily test baremetal tests, so we can"t maintain them | 09:23 |
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| gmann | we need to fix same tests in tempest as ironic L and K branch does not have plugin and run tempest tests | 09:23 |
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| gmann | jordanP: totally true, its in process of removal | 09:24 |
| tosky | or backport the plugin? | 09:24 |
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| jordanP | gmann, thanks for doing this for Ironic. But you won"t be able to fix tempest-plugin for ever. Ironic people should step up if they are interested in running functional tests | 09:24 |
| dmellado | tosky: well, that would depend on ironic, not only tempest | 09:24 |
| gmann | jordanP: bu before that mtreinish and jroll doing isloated plugin install on gate | 09:24 |
| gmann | so that stable branches also can run plugin and then only we can remove those tests from tempest | 09:25 |
| jordanP | ok | 09:25 |
| dmellado | sounds fine | 09:25 |
| gmann | jordanP: +2, i do not want, had to do ceilometer and congress also for removal of ceilometer tests | 09:25 |
| gmann | not to be very hard on them | 09:25 |
| jordanP | that's nice of you | 09:26 |
| gmann | tosky: yea thats all what project want | 09:26 |
| gmann | and to avoid impression that Tempest break them :) | 09:26 |
| dmellado | lol | 09:26 |
| gmann | which always false but nobody understand | 09:26 |
| gmann | we have few projects tests which are in progress of removal | 09:27 |
| tosky | that should be the role.of QA liason for each project | 09:27 |
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| gmann | once all those are gone in plugin we will be little bit in relive state | 09:27 |
| tosky | explain the changes, I mean | 09:28 |
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| gmann | tosky: officially yes and we have on wifi too but that does not seems to work :) | 09:28 |
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| gmann | anyways that might be last fix on plugins and ask each project to do in future | 09:29 |
| dmellado | gmann: about the plugins itself, is there a timeframe for that? | 09:29 |
| gmann | other thing is we should have all common interface in lib ASAP to avoid such changes break plugin | 09:29 |
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| gmann | dmellado: you mean for projects (other than 6 core ) which tempest has tests | 09:30 |
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| gmann | for those we try to remove tests from tempest ASAP, but we do not have strict deadline | 09:30 |
| gmann | and for other projects its upto them when they want to implement plugin for tempest coverage | 09:31 |
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| dmellado | gmann: I see, thanks! | 09:31 |
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| tosky_ | for Sahara, the tests have been copied to sahara-tests, and we run the tests with the Sahara CI, but for the main gates I'm still investigating | 09:32 |
| gmann | tosky_: great. | 09:32 |
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| tosky_ | whether to wait for this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/297446/ or to see if the way of the designate project can work | 09:32 |
| tosky_ | (install tests from devstack plugin) | 09:32 |
| gmann | tosky_: you might need to change their job to redirect the tests to sahara plugin | 09:33 |
| tosky_ | gmann: Sahara CI is already fixed | 09:33 |
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| gmann | tosky_: yea, after that, it will be nice to install isolated plugin | 09:33 |
| gmann | tosky_: can it be done before that how other projects installing now (with all-plugin tox env) | 09:34 |
| gmann | that is bad way but in case. | 09:34 |
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| tosky_ | I was hoping to go directly to the good one :) | 09:35 |
| gmann | tosky_: ok, thats fair enough :) | 09:35 |
| gmann | hope we get rid of all non-core projects tests by starting of Newton | 09:35 |
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| gmann | ok, anything on tempest from anyone | 09:36 |
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| gmann | seems like expected_success changes exposing more bug in tests | 09:37 |
| gmann | http://logs.openstack.org/34/308834/1/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-ironic-pxe_ssh/d0ba3b3/logs/testr_results.html.gz | 09:37 |
| gmann | :) | 09:37 |
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| gmann | ok, let's move on | 09:38 |
| gmann | #topic DevStack + Grenade | 09:38 |
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| gmann | if nothing on those we skip this | 09:39 |
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| gmann | #topic Austin Summit | 09:39 |
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| gmann | so we have all schedule up on site now | 09:40 |
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| gmann | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/austin-2016/summit-schedule/global-search?t=QA%3A | 09:40 |
| gmann | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/austin-2016/summit-schedule/global-search?t=Infra%2FQA | 09:40 |
| gmann | hope this search covered all | 09:41 |
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| masayukig | cool | 09:41 |
| gmann | and hoping not much overlap sessions | 09:41 |
| gmann | i have one with nova on Thursday but seems like cannot be changed :( | 09:41 |
| gmann | we just start preparing for those sessions and have a great summit at the end | 09:42 |
| gmann | anyone want to talk/discuss anything on this | 09:42 |
| dmellado | I think I'm also more or less fine | 09:43 |
| dmellado | will be giving a speak early Thu | 09:43 |
| gmann | dmellado: oh | 09:43 |
| dmellado | but should be free for the remaining | 09:43 |
| gmann | what time? | 09:43 |
| dmellado | gmann: let me check | 09:43 |
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| gmann | dmellado: Thursday we start at 11.50 | 09:43 |
| * dmellado checking | 09:44 | |
| gmann | masayukig: hope our is not overlapping with general sessions? | 09:44 |
| gmann | honestly i missed to check that :P | 09:44 |
| masayukig | gmann: not overlapping | 09:44 |
| gmann | ohk. | 09:45 |
| masayukig | (fortunately :) | 09:45 |
| dmellado | gmann: yep | 09:45 |
| dmellado | it collides | 09:45 |
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| dmellado | 11:50-12:30 | 09:45 |
| gmann | dmellado: oh | 09:45 |
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| dmellado | https://www.openstack.org/summit/austin-2016/summit-schedule/events/8626/midonet-scalability-testing-with-neutron-and-open-source-tools | 09:45 |
| gmann | dmellado: same time mine was overlapping with Nova | 09:45 |
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| gmann | oomichi: can you check this if possible :) | 09:46 |
| gmann | ok let's move on and see what oomichi can do | 09:46 |
| dmellado | cool | 09:46 |
| gmann | #topic Critical Reviews | 09:46 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Critical Reviews (Meeting topic: qa)" | 09:46 | |
| gmann | any reviews to look on priority | 09:46 |
| gmann | if nothing let's jump to open | 09:47 |
| gmann | #topic Open Discussion | 09:47 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: qa)" | 09:48 | |
| gmann | anything else to discuss or we can close early | 09:48 |
| dmellado | well, maybe I mised the mail but oomichi was speaking about having a dinner on Mon | 09:48 |
| dmellado | he said he was going to send one (maybe not yet) | 09:49 |
| gmann | dmellado: oh, did he send mail? | 09:49 |
| gmann | ohk, may be | 09:49 |
| gmann | may be we will have. :) | 09:49 |
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| dmellado | so let's check that later ;) | 09:49 |
| dmellado | gmann: I'll ping you also on Mon to discuss the session' details | 09:50 |
| gmann | dmellado: ok | 09:50 |
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| gmann | ok let's close the meeting. | 09:51 |
| gmann | 3... | 09:51 |
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| gmann | 2.. | 09:51 |
| gmann | 1. | 09:51 |
| gmann | Thanks all | 09:51 |
| gmann | #endmeeting | 09:51 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 09:51 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Apr 21 09:51:28 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 09:51 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2016/qa.2016-04-21-09.00.html | 09:51 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2016/qa.2016-04-21-09.00.txt | 09:51 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2016/qa.2016-04-21-09.00.log.html | 09:51 |
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| katomo | #startmeeting OpenStack I18n Meeting | 13:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Apr 21 13:01:42 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is katomo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:01 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: OpenStack I18n Meeting)" | 13:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_i18n_meeting' | 13:01 |
| katomo | any one here? | 13:01 |
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| ujuc | hi | 13:08 |
| ujuc | late..;; | 13:08 |
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| katomo | hi, ujuc | 13:09 |
| ujuc | hi katomo ;) | 13:09 |
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| itlinux | hello | 13:10 |
| ujuc | hi :) | 13:10 |
| katomo | hi, itlinux | 13:10 |
| itlinux | here I am! | 13:10 |
| katomo | thanks! | 13:10 |
| itlinux | sorry early here 6am LOL | 13:10 |
| katomo | wow | 13:11 |
| katomo | very early... | 13:11 |
| itlinux | no problem katomo! | 13:11 |
| ujuc | wow... | 13:11 |
| ujuc | :) | 13:11 |
| itlinux | just want to make sure we can find a solution where everyone can be happy.. | 13:11 |
| katomo | ujuc, do you know there is a way to approve translated project instead of using line by line | 13:11 |
| katomo | question from itlinux | 13:12 |
| ujuc | yes | 13:12 |
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| katomo | hm | 13:12 |
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| katomo | can you explain? | 13:12 |
| ujuc | line by line 👍 button... click... | 13:12 |
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| ujuc | no shortkey.... | 13:13 |
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| itlinux | that's not good ujuc | 13:13 |
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| ujuc | yab... | 13:13 |
| itlinux | I have all projects that need to be approved.. takes forever.. | 13:13 |
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| itlinux | just nuetron is 35 pages.. | 13:14 |
| katomo | 35... | 13:14 |
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| ujuc | ... 60000 words ... | 13:14 |
| itlinux | I am not getting paid for this !! | 13:14 |
| katomo | org | 13:14 |
| ujuc | click by clikc | 13:14 |
| ujuc | shortcut!!! | 13:14 |
| itlinux | so what's the option in the pull down menu where is says approve.. | 13:14 |
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| itlinux | what's the shortcut? | 13:15 |
| itlinux | has to be a way to make this more efficient | 13:15 |
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| ujuc | um... or check box.. | 13:15 |
| ujuc | approved.... | 13:15 |
| itlinux | I do not see a box on my end for approval.. | 13:16 |
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| itlinux | and the checkbox you are talking about from the pull down menu does not do anything | 13:16 |
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| katomo | yep. pull down menu is a just display filter. | 13:17 |
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| katomo | We have a chance to discuss Zanata improvement request with Zanata dev team. | 13:17 |
| itlinux | ok | 13:17 |
| itlinux | so what can we do? | 13:17 |
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| itlinux | how to make this faster .. | 13:18 |
| katomo | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/I18n-Zanata-enhancement | 13:18 |
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| katomo | Cloud you write to your request (make this faster)? | 13:19 |
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| katomo | For example, "create a checkbox" and "approve the checked strings". | 13:20 |
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| itlinux | I am now | 13:20 |
| katomo | thanks | 13:20 |
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| itlinux | you should be able to see my request | 13:20 |
| katomo | I see | 13:21 |
| ujuc | a katomo start meeting robot | 13:21 |
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| ujuc | # startmeeting... :) | 13:21 |
| itlinux | :) | 13:21 |
| katomo | :) | 13:22 |
| katomo | any other topic? | 13:22 |
| itlinux | not from my side! | 13:22 |
| ujuc | no :) | 13:22 |
| itlinux | maybe an idea will be to use git | 13:23 |
| katomo | hm | 13:23 |
| ujuc | ?? | 13:23 |
| itlinux | to download all the translated doc | 13:23 |
| itlinux | and then push them up .. | 13:23 |
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| katomo | using zanata client? | 13:24 |
| itlinux | using zanata to receive those changes | 13:24 |
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| itlinux | and then you do not have to go line by line to approve it.. | 13:24 |
| katomo | ahh | 13:24 |
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| katomo | good suggestion | 13:25 |
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| itlinux | I just added to the etherpad | 13:26 |
| katomo | I see the etherpad | 13:26 |
| katomo | itlinux: thanks! | 13:26 |
| itlinux | thank you guys! | 13:26 |
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| itlinux | let make things easier for us | 13:26 |
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| katomo | ujuc, will you attend the summit? itlinux, can't. | 13:27 |
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| ujuc | can't | 13:27 |
| katomo | oh | 13:27 |
| katomo | okay | 13:27 |
| ujuc | ianchoi attend summit | 13:27 |
| itlinux | barcellona! | 13:28 |
| ujuc | barcellona!! | 13:28 |
| ujuc | lolo | 13:28 |
| katomo | barcellona is near from Italy:) | 13:28 |
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| itlinux | yes but I am in San Francisco :) | 13:29 |
| katomo | very far from Japan, far east :) | 13:29 |
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| katomo | oops | 13:29 |
| -amotoki- noticed it's i18n meeting time | 13:29 | |
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| itlinux | yes.. | 13:29 |
| itlinux | other options for i18? | 13:29 |
| amotoki | what are you discussing now? | 13:30 |
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| katomo | about summit | 13:30 |
| ianychoi_phone | Hi sorry for late | 13:30 |
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| katomo | Hi: amotoki, ianychoi_phone | 13:30 |
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| -amotoki- looking at the log | 13:31 | |
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| amotoki | I will be at the summit but all of my schedule conflicts with i18n schedule :( | 13:31 |
| katomo | #topic summit planning | 13:31 |
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| katomo | amotoki :( | 13:31 |
| amotoki | as usual to me :( | 13:32 |
| katomo | ianychoi_phone: do you have a topic to discuss at summit ? | 13:32 |
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| katomo | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/austin-i18n-workshop | 13:32 |
| ianychoi_phone | I will attend the upcoming summit | 13:32 |
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| katomo | any topic? | 13:33 |
| katomo | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/austin-i18n-workshop | 13:33 |
| katomo | .... | 13:33 |
| ianychoi_phone | Not more from the Etherpad link | 13:33 |
| katomo | hm, okay | 13:34 |
| katomo | see you at Austin. | 13:34 |
| katomo | #topic open discussions | 13:34 |
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| katomo | other topics? | 13:35 |
| amotoki | hey, have you read a mail from Andreas? | 13:35 |
| amotoki | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-i18n/2016-April/002129.html | 13:35 |
| amotoki | I hope you all express you opinions on POT files in our git repo. | 13:35 |
| katomo | not yet, just now... | 13:35 |
| katomo | yeah | 13:35 |
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| katomo | I will. | 13:36 |
| amotoki | I am not sure how many translators are using POT files actually.. | 13:36 |
| katomo | itlinux, ujuc, ianychoi_phone: I hope you will, too | 13:36 |
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| katomo | I sometimes use | 13:37 |
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| ianychoi_phone | I don't think many translators use pot files, but I use it sometimes | 13:37 |
| amotoki | my response http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-i18n/2016-April/002130.html may help you | 13:37 |
| itlinux | I do use those before to do some trans but then the PTL of the project rejected because those need to be done by zanate | 13:38 |
| ianychoi_phone | To diff what changes occurred from the original translation | 13:38 |
| itlinux | so I stopped using them | 13:38 |
| ianychoi_phone | Sometimes diffing pot files is useful for me | 13:38 |
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| itlinux | yes agree ianychoi_phone | 13:39 |
| amotoki | I believe the need for POT files will disappear once Zanata shows a location of a string in source code as Transifex does. | 13:39 |
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| itlinux | I thought Transifex is gone! | 13:39 |
| amotoki | personally I am a developer and familiar with the infra script, so there is no need for POT files | 13:40 |
| amotoki | thus your feedbacks are important :) | 13:40 |
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| katomo | yes | 13:41 |
| katomo | My usage is same as amotoki. | 13:41 |
| ianychoi_phone | I also need source location indication on zanata! :) | 13:42 |
| katomo | So, I added the Zanata enhancement request at Summit. | 13:42 |
| ujuc | +1 | 13:43 |
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| amotoki | i see someone is writing to etherpad.. let's break lines when you add something | 13:43 |
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| amotoki | i usually disable colorred per authors | 13:44 |
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| itlinux | amotoki: it's all good! | 13:45 |
| itlinux | color no color! | 13:45 |
| amotoki | :) | 13:45 |
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| katomo | ant other topic? | 13:45 |
| katomo | *any | 13:46 |
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| itlinux | I think we are good! | 13:46 |
| katomo | ant eats my head :) | 13:46 |
| ujuc | ;) | 13:46 |
| ianychoi_phone | Kk | 13:46 |
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| katomo | okay, thanks to join, itlinux, ujuc, ianychoi_phone, amotoki | 13:47 |
| itlinux | see you on the next one. katomo: | 13:47 |
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| ianychoi_phone | Thanks kotomo and all! | 13:47 |
| katomo | #endmeeting | 13:47 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Apr 21 13:47:37 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:47 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2016/openstack_i18n_meeting.2016-04-21-13.01.html | 13:47 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2016/openstack_i18n_meeting.2016-04-21-13.01.txt | 13:47 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2016/openstack_i18n_meeting.2016-04-21-13.01.log.html | 13:47 |
| ujuc | :) | 13:47 |
| ujuc | !! | 13:47 |
| openstack | ujuc: Error: "!" is not a valid command. | 13:47 |
| ujuc | bye :) | 13:48 |
| katomo | see you, all | 13:48 |
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| mriedem | #startmeeting nova | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Apr 21 14:00:05 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mriedem. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova' | 14:00 |
| bauzas | \o | 14:00 |
| rlrossit | o/ | 14:00 |
| takashin | o/ | 14:00 |
| alaski | o/ | 14:00 |
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| cdent | o/ | 14:00 |
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| dansmith | o/ | 14:00 |
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| jaypipes | o..=> | 14:01 |
| mriedem | #link agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 14:01 |
| edleafe | \o | 14:01 |
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| dansmith | jaypipes: is that you with a railgun or something? | 14:01 |
| mriedem | #topic bug status | 14:01 |
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| sarafraj | o/ | 14:01 |
| jaypipes | dansmith: precisely. | 14:01 |
| cdent | dansmith: the BFD carries a BFG | 14:01 |
| mriedem | we didn't have the bug meeting this week since markus is on vacation | 14:01 |
| * dansmith takes two steps back | 14:01 | |
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| mriedem | gate status is more or less ok | 14:02 |
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| mriedem | 3rd party ci status...i don't really know | 14:02 |
| dansmith | ceph is on the mirrors now | 14:02 |
| mriedem | cool | 14:02 |
| mriedem | and it sounds like melwitt is working on creating the plugin src job template | 14:02 |
| dansmith | and I'm trying to get the ceph dudes to make xenial packages for hammer so we're not screwed in a few weeks | 14:02 |
| mriedem | for glance-store and os-brick | 14:02 |
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| dansmith | yes, but not for hours | 14:03 |
| dansmith | she lives in BADT | 14:03 |
| mriedem | i do'nt know what that is, but ok | 14:03 |
| dansmith | Bay Area Daylight Time zone.. which is like five hours after PDT | 14:03 |
| dims_ | o/ | 14:03 |
| dansmith | so not up yet | 14:03 |
| sdague | heh | 14:04 |
| mriedem | the bug scrub on monday was pretty good, | 14:04 |
| * johnthetubaguy is going to start using BADT | 14:04 | |
| mriedem | cut down on those 2 tabs | 14:04 |
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| mriedem | for stale incomplete and inconsistent | 14:04 |
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| mriedem | i don't have anything else on bugs | 14:04 |
| mriedem | #topic reminders | 14:04 |
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| mriedem | #link Newton review focus list: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-nova-priorities-tracking | 14:04 |
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| mriedem | #link Draft Newton release schedule is up: http://releases.openstack.org/newton/schedule.html | 14:05 |
| mriedem | #info We have 45 approved blueprints: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/newton - 5 are completed, 5 have not started, 3 are blocked | 14:05 |
| mriedem | #help https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/BugTriage#Weekly_bug_skimming_duty | 14:05 |
| mriedem | if you're interested in bug skimming duty for the next week, put your name in the wiki ^ | 14:06 |
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| mriedem | i'm guessing it will be pretty quiet though due to summit | 14:06 |
| mriedem | #topic stable branch status | 14:06 |
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| mriedem | only news i have is kilo was fubar after testresources 2.0.0 was released, | 14:06 |
| mriedem | we worked around that yesterday | 14:06 |
| mriedem | otherwise | 14:07 |
| mriedem | stable/mitaka: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/mitaka,n,z | 14:07 |
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| mriedem | stable/liberty: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/liberty,n,z | 14:07 |
| mriedem | stable/kilo: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/kilo,n,z | 14:07 |
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| sdague | I feel like this is a good indication that kilo really should eol on may 3 | 14:07 |
| mriedem | #topic subteam highlights | 14:07 |
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| mriedem | sdague: i don't | 14:07 |
| mriedem | but we don't need to get into that here | 14:07 |
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| mriedem | i added this new section just to roll up whatever highlights come out of the weekly subteam meetings, of which there are several | 14:08 |
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| mriedem | not digging into things in detail | 14:08 |
| bauzas | k | 14:08 |
| sdague | mriedem: good idea | 14:08 |
| mriedem | alaski: any highlights from the cells v2 meeting yesterday? | 14:08 |
| alaski | we had a good talk about getting multinode testing in place | 14:08 |
| mriedem | #topic cellsv2 subteam highlights | 14:09 |
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| alaski | ccarmack is putting a plan together there | 14:09 |
| mriedem | ok | 14:09 |
| alaski | otherwise we're just pushing out code atm | 14:09 |
| mriedem | alright, thanks | 14:10 |
| mriedem | #topic scheduler subteam highlights | 14:10 |
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| mriedem | cdent: jaypipes: bauzas: you're up | 14:10 |
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| mriedem | moving on | 14:10 |
| * edleafe looks away shyly | 14:10 | |
| bauzas | mriedem: nothing really | 14:10 |
| mriedem | #topic live migration subteam highlights | 14:10 |
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| dims_ | lol | 14:10 |
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| mriedem | i don't see PaulMurray around | 14:11 |
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| bauzas | mriedem: just discussed a bit of the lovely resource-providers epic of doom | 14:11 |
| mriedem | i caught the tail end of the live migration subteam meeting this week | 14:11 |
| mriedem | it was mostly talking about content for the summit session | 14:11 |
| bauzas | plus what we want to discuss during the 2 lovely slots we have | 14:11 |
| mriedem | bauzas: you're totally messing up the meeting minutes :) | 14:11 |
| mriedem | but ok | 14:12 |
| bauzas | I'm laged | 14:12 |
| bauzas | lagged even | 14:12 |
| mriedem | we still need to get the latest libvirt repo hooked into the live migration multinode job | 14:12 |
| mriedem | to see if that helps with the races | 14:12 |
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| mriedem | #topic api subteam highlights | 14:12 |
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| mriedem | #help with api-ref doc content verification push http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-April/092936.html | 14:13 |
| sdague | the api ref work is going well | 14:13 |
| sdague | http://developer.openstack.org/api-ref/compute/ | 14:13 |
| sdague | and yes, the call for help is out there | 14:13 |
| mriedem | nice, when does api-site start pointing at that rather than the old stuff? | 14:13 |
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| sdague | mriedem: once we get far enough on this content fix phase | 14:14 |
| sdague | we're probably about as accurate as api-site today, but it would be good to get a bit better before we force over | 14:14 |
| mriedem | i assumed the in tree docs were already at or better than the api-site stuff | 14:14 |
| sdague | my hope is mid may | 14:14 |
| mriedem | ok | 14:14 |
| sdague | there was some content loss / scrambling in the conversion | 14:14 |
| sdague | because api-site is so bad | 14:14 |
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| mriedem | alright, anything else on api? | 14:15 |
| sdague | nope | 14:15 |
| mriedem | content for the 2 api sessions is all lined up? | 14:15 |
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| sdague | yes, I was working on the etherpads this morning | 14:15 |
| mriedem | cool | 14:15 |
| sdague | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-nova-api | 14:16 |
| mriedem | alright, i don't think we have any other active subteams that are holding meetings | 14:16 |
| mriedem | which reminds me, | 14:16 |
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| mriedem | #help someone needs to pick up the NFV/SRIOV subteam meeting from ndipanov | 14:16 |
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| mriedem | #topic stuck reviews | 14:16 |
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| mriedem | there was nothing on the agenda - anything anyone wanted to bring up here? | 14:17 |
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| mriedem | #topic open discussion | 14:17 |
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| mriedem | only thing on the agenda is a link to the nova design summit sessions | 14:17 |
| mriedem | #link Austin Design Summit sessions: https://www.openstack.org/summit/austin-2016/summit-schedule/global-search?t=Nova%3A+ | 14:17 |
| mriedem | i started going through the monday ops sessions, and pinged a few people about attending some of those | 14:18 |
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| mriedem | there are some relevant to nova, like logging, upgrades, config, maintanence | 14:18 |
| mriedem | wow, maintenance | 14:18 |
| mriedem | and remember all of the wonderful xp sessions on tuesday | 14:18 |
| sdague | yeh, that one is going to be odd | 14:18 |
| mriedem | there is definitely some overlap with the ops sessions at first glance | 14:19 |
| mriedem | like 2 on logging | 14:19 |
| mriedem | 2 on RFEs | 14:19 |
| mriedem | 2 on upgrades | 14:19 |
| johnthetubaguy | oh, ops sessions on tuesday as well, I missed those? | 14:19 |
| mriedem | the large deployments one will be relevant to nova also | 14:19 |
| bauzas | don't we have a nova-ops session ? | 14:19 |
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| mriedem | bauzas: at the design summit? no | 14:19 |
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| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: are we asking folks for pre-reading to go in the etherpads? | 14:19 |
| bauzas | because trying to follow all the related ops sessions is just impossible | 14:20 |
| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: for the nova design summit sessions? yes | 14:20 |
| mriedem | #link monday ops sessions https://www.openstack.org/summit/austin-2016/summit-schedule/#day=2016-04-25&summit_types=2&tags=1419 | 14:20 |
| johnthetubaguy | cool, I thought so, just making sure that word is getting out there | 14:20 |
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| mriedem | #action everyone that is chairing a session at the design summit, remember to fill out your session etherpad for pre-reading | 14:21 |
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| * mriedem is grabbing the tuesday xp sessions link but it's slow | 14:21 | |
| sdague | the whole site is slow :( | 14:21 |
| mriedem | #link tuesday xp sessions https://www.openstack.org/summit/austin-2016/summit-schedule/#day=2016-04-26&summit_types=2&tags=3601 | 14:22 |
| johnthetubaguy | the app is a lot quicker, if that helps folks | 14:22 |
| bauzas | just in case people are ranting about how to feed an ICS cal https://gist.github.com/dstanek/83d536af9461eb26d7a19ff73a7391c2 | 14:22 |
| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: since you're here this week, there was a request last week to have nova representation at https://www.openstack.org/summit/austin-2016/summit-schedule/events/9485 | 14:22 |
| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: i was hoping you'd sign up for that :) | 14:22 |
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| johnthetubaguy | so I was really wanting to be in the PWG discussion at that time slot | 14:23 |
| dansmith | also, | 14:23 |
| mriedem | d'oh | 14:23 |
| johnthetubaguy | I asked them last time to come back with a clear way in which this works without Nova | 14:23 |
| dansmith | johnthetubaguy has already provided a lot of feedback on that spec along the lines of "do it outside nova" | 14:23 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, I replied on the spec, with a link to what was agreed at the last summit | 14:23 |
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| mriedem | ok, fair enough | 14:23 |
| mriedem | i'm going to the design summit split session which is at the same time | 14:24 |
| johnthetubaguy | oh, it is? eek | 14:24 |
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| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: so it might have moved around | 14:24 |
| mriedem | it did | 14:24 |
| johnthetubaguy | the last slot is instance users, quota and PWG/cross project stuff | 14:25 |
| sdague | yeh, it moved, because of foundation staff commitments | 14:25 |
| mriedem | damn | 14:25 |
| sdague | it's in second to last slot now | 14:25 |
| mriedem | b/c now that's at the same time as the baremetal networking session | 14:25 |
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| mriedem | which has implications for nova | 14:25 |
| mriedem | alright, well, i don't have anything else | 14:26 |
| mriedem | anyone else have open discussion items? | 14:26 |
| mriedem | crickets | 14:26 |
| sdague | nope | 14:26 |
| mriedem | ok, thanks everyone, see you next week | 14:26 |
| sdague | end it | 14:26 |
| mriedem | #endmeeting | 14:26 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Apr 21 14:26:38 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:26 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2016/nova.2016-04-21-14.00.html | 14:26 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2016/nova.2016-04-21-14.00.txt | 14:26 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2016/nova.2016-04-21-14.00.log.html | 14:26 |
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| dtroyer | #startmeeting openstackclient | 19:06 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Apr 21 19:06:00 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dtroyer. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:06 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: openstackclient)" | 19:06 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstackclient' | 19:06 |
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| dtroyer | hey all! Sorry I'm late…last call ran over... | 19:06 |
| dtroyer | anyone still here? | 19:06 |
| rtheis | hi | 19:06 |
| brad_behle | hi | 19:06 |
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| dtroyer | sounds a little quiet today… | 19:08 |
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| dtroyer | #topic summit planning | 19:08 |
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| dtroyer | I created the Etherpad for our session | 19:08 |
| dtroyer | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-openstackclient | 19:08 |
| dtroyer | I've started throwing in some things | 19:09 |
| baumann1 | Hi sorry I'm a little late :) | 19:09 |
| rtheis | Thanks dtroyer | 19:09 |
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| dtroyer | please contribute | 19:09 |
| rtheis | will do | 19:09 |
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| dtroyer | that session is almost exactly one week from right now ;) | 19:10 |
| dtroyer | we have a workroom session immediately following | 19:10 |
| dtroyer | And the meetup Friday afternoon | 19:11 |
| dtroyer | anything else summit-related? | 19:12 |
| dtroyer | FWIW, I'll be in town Saturday evening | 19:12 |
| rtheis | nothing else from me | 19:12 |
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| dtroyer | rtheis: do I remember right you leave Tuesday afternoon? | 19:12 |
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| rtheis | I'll be in Austin Sunday night through Tuesday night | 19:13 |
| rtheis | dtroyer: correct | 19:13 |
| dtroyer | ok, we need to make sure to find some time for $COLD_BEVERAGE in there | 19:13 |
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| rtheis | dtroyer: that sounds good to me | 19:13 |
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| dtroyer | #topic release | 19:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "release (Meeting topic: openstackclient)" | 19:14 | |
| dtroyer | For the record, 2.4.0 was released yesterday | 19:14 |
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| rtheis | awesome | 19:14 |
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| dtroyer | tentative plan is for the next release to be a major rev with changes including the ksc-ksa change, new floating/fixed IP commands, and some smaller possibly not-compatibly stuffs | 19:15 |
| dtroyer | I'd like to do the package rename too | 19:16 |
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| rtheis | okay | 19:16 |
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| rtheis | dtroyer: do you have a date in mind for the next release? | 19:16 |
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| dtroyer | mid-May-ish? the first of the ksa stuff is close | 19:17 |
| dtroyer | the ip commands are close too | 19:17 |
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| rtheis | ok | 19:17 |
| rtheis | I just started looking at those ip commands | 19:17 |
| dtroyer | we should be keeping a list of the major-rev changes we want to do | 19:17 |
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| dtroyer | #topic reviews | 19:18 |
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| dtroyer | there's been a lot of activity lately, anything anyone wants to highlight? | 19:18 |
| rtheis | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/307556/ | 19:19 |
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| rtheis | Want to double-check on the boolean options ... reedip was wondering how much room there is to deviate. | 19:20 |
| dtroyer | we talked about that in IRC last night a bit | 19:20 |
| dtroyer | my reason for wanting to use a consistent style is totally defensive against devs doing copy-n-paste and not understanding the APIs well enough to know when other ways work and don't work | 19:21 |
| dtroyer | we have APIs that do various things but that doesn't mean we should handle them all differently too | 19:22 |
| * dtroyer reads review comments | 19:22 | |
| dtroyer | in that case, why should that option be —non-vlan-transport? | 19:22 |
| dtroyer | rather than —no-vlan-transport? | 19:23 |
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| dtroyer | err, transparent | 19:23 |
| dtroyer | little differences like that are maddening for users | 19:23 |
| rtheis | agreed | 19:23 |
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| dtroyer | I haven't seen a reason yet, has he mentioned one? | 19:23 |
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| rtheis | looking... | 19:24 |
| dtroyer | ah, "grammar" | 19:24 |
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| rtheis | yep | 19:25 |
| dtroyer | so that's why i lean toward simple rules, and knowingly violate grammar | 19:26 |
| dtroyer | we ignore plurals too for the same reason | 19:26 |
| rtheis | I agree. | 19:26 |
| dtroyer | what about —transparent-vlan and —no-transparent-vlan? | 19:26 |
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| rtheis | That sounds like a good alternative. | 19:27 |
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| dtroyer | any other reviews? | 19:29 |
| rtheis | nothing else from me | 19:29 |
| dtroyer | #topic bugs | 19:31 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bugs (Meeting topic: openstackclient)" | 19:31 | |
| dtroyer | Any bugs? | 19:31 |
| rtheis | no specific bugs to discuss | 19:32 |
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| dtroyer | well, this is going quickly | 19:32 |
| rtheis | I was working with Tang to do some bug cleanup | 19:32 |
| rtheis | several bugs were fixed but not marked as such | 19:33 |
| dtroyer | thanks, I have not done nearly enough of that lately | 19:33 |
| rtheis | yw | 19:33 |
| dtroyer | I found one of those doing the release note cleanup, figured there would be more | 19:33 |
| dtroyer | thanks guys | 19:33 |
| rtheis | thanks for cleaning up the release notes | 19:34 |
| rtheis | we are getting better at them but still learning | 19:34 |
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| dtroyer | yeah, I think a bit more detail would be good too. Some of the ones I merged had the details, but they were basically duplicates. | 19:35 |
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| dtroyer | and we should start pushing those details back into the docs too so they are more than just syntax references | 19:35 |
| rtheis | dtroyer: so say more than just "os port create" command added? | 19:36 |
| rtheis | explain what it does? | 19:36 |
| dtroyer | enough to be able to match it to an install guide or project doc, we don't want to duplicate too much | 19:37 |
| rtheis | sure | 19:38 |
| dtroyer | sometimes with the network commands I didn't even know what the resource was, we can do high-level stuff that isn't going to bit rot too quickly | 19:38 |
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| rtheis | sounds good | 19:39 |
| dtroyer | for the release notes, the new command added might be good enough, but the doc for it should have more. the notes are for users trying to decide how this release affects them | 19:39 |
| rtheis | ok | 19:40 |
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| dtroyer | so explaining the subtlties of a change might be totally appropriate there | 19:40 |
| dtroyer | #topic open discussion | 19:41 |
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| dtroyer | what else is going on? | 19:41 |
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| rtheis | when does meeting schedule change? | 19:41 |
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| dtroyer | it would have been next week, but no meeting during summit, so May 12 | 19:42 |
| dtroyer | thanks for the reminder | 19:42 |
| rtheis | thanks | 19:42 |
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| rtheis | nothing else from me | 19:43 |
| baumann1 | What's the new meeting schedule going to be again? | 19:43 |
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| dtroyer | Even weeks move to Thursday at 13:00 UTC | 19:43 |
| dtroyer | Odd weeks stay here | 19:44 |
| dtroyer | also, even weeks moved to #openstack-meeting-3 | 19:44 |
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| baumann1 | Thanks dtroyer :) | 19:45 |
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| dtroyer | ok then, since stevemar isn't here to sing about the Blue Jays, let's call it early | 19:45 |
| rtheis | bye | 19:46 |
| dtroyer | Thanks everyone, see y'all next week! | 19:46 |
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| dtroyer | #endmeeting | 19:46 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 19:46 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Apr 21 19:46:29 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:46 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstackclient/2016/openstackclient.2016-04-21-19.06.html | 19:46 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstackclient/2016/openstackclient.2016-04-21-19.06.txt | 19:46 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstackclient/2016/openstackclient.2016-04-21-19.06.log.html | 19:46 |
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