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| therve | #startmeeting Heat | 08:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Apr 6 08:01:42 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is therve. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 08:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Heat)" | 08:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'heat' | 08:01 |
| therve | #topic Rollcall | 08:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Rollcall (Meeting topic: Heat)" | 08:02 | |
| shardy | o/ | 08:02 |
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| therve | skraynev ? | 08:02 |
| therve | Who's supposed to be here | 08:03 |
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| therve | stevebaker, Maybe? | 08:04 |
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| elynn_ | o/ | 08:04 |
| ricolin | o/ | 08:04 |
| skraynev | o/ | 08:04 |
| skraynev | therve: I am here | 08:04 |
| skraynev | :) | 08:04 |
| therve | Alright, that's a start :) | 08:04 |
| skraynev | ramishra ? | 08:05 |
| therve | #topic Adding items to agenda | 08:05 |
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| therve | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/HeatAgenda#Agenda_.282016-04-06_0800_UTC.29 | 08:05 |
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| therve | #topic Add new tag for stable branches | 08:06 |
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| therve | skraynev, So what's up | 08:06 |
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| skraynev | therve: so... | 08:07 |
| skraynev | I thought about adding new tags for stable branches like liberty and kilo | 08:08 |
| skraynev | looks like we enough new patches in these branches | 08:08 |
| skraynev | and last tags were applied long time ago | 08:08 |
| skraynev | I discussed it with ttx yesterday and he told, that have tag each 2 month sounds - ok | 08:09 |
| therve | OK I have no idea what those do and how to do it :) | 08:09 |
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| skraynev | however I need also ask the same question in openstack-release channel | 08:09 |
| shardy | is this the new model for stable releases, e.g per-project tagging instead of a coordinated periodic stable release? | 08:09 |
| therve | Somethng like 5.0.2 on kilo? | 08:09 |
| skraynev | therve: I suppose, that it's just patch to releases repo... | 08:10 |
| skraynev | therve: yeah | 08:10 |
| therve | That seems reasonable | 08:10 |
| skraynev | shardy: I am not sure.. May be we have not coordinated periodic stable release now... | 08:11 |
| therve | Let's see after the meeting if we can do it? | 08:11 |
| skraynev | shardy: it's another good reason to ask this question on openstack-stable | 08:11 |
| skraynev | therve: sure | 08:11 |
| therve | OK moving on | 08:11 |
| therve | #topic AWS resources future | 08:12 |
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| therve | I don't know who put that in :) | 08:12 |
| therve | skraynev, You presumably? | 08:13 |
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| skraynev | therve: yeah. :) | 08:13 |
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| therve | What's your question? | 08:14 |
| skraynev | so I remember, that we planned don't remove AWS resources | 08:14 |
| skraynev | but I was surprised, that nova team deprecated AWS support and totally removed it... | 08:15 |
| shardy | skraynev: well, it moved into a different project | 08:15 |
| skraynev | and move it to another repo. | 08:15 |
| skraynev | shardy: right | 08:15 |
| shardy | I personally don't feel like it's a huge issue for us, the maintenance overhead seems pretty small | 08:15 |
| skraynev | so my question was: do we need to do in the same way ? | 08:15 |
| shardy | and we still have some coupling between resources I believe | 08:15 |
| therve | We don't need to, no | 08:15 |
| shardy | I feel like, one day, we might want to move the cfn compatible stuff (API's and resources), but not now, or even anytime soon | 08:16 |
| therve | The cfn API is still fairly useful by default until we have a nice signature story | 08:16 |
| skraynev | shardy: as I remember, we wanted to decouple them | 08:16 |
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| shardy | therve: Yeah, by default SoftwareDeployment still uses it | 08:16 |
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| shardy | I started a discussion about changing that a few months ago, but then realized that certain config groups won't work without it | 08:17 |
| shardy | the os-apply-config one in particular | 08:17 |
| shardy | I'm working to remove that from TripleO, but it may be in use elsewhere also | 08:17 |
| skraynev | shardy: aha. I see :) | 08:17 |
| therve | shardy, What doesn't work? | 08:17 |
| shardy | therve: signalling back to heat, because the os-refresh-config script expects a pre-signed URL | 08:18 |
| shardy | the swift signal approach may work | 08:18 |
| therve | Ah I see | 08:18 |
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| shardy | but the heat native one won't atm | 08:18 |
| therve | Not a bug in Heat per itself | 08:18 |
| shardy | I could probably fix the hook script, but have focussed instead on trying to not use it | 08:18 |
| shardy | therve: No, just a known use-case, and reason for not ripping out the CFN stuff just yet ;) | 08:19 |
| therve | Right | 08:19 |
| therve | skraynev, So yeah, we'll keep it unless we have a good reason, like legal crap or a real advantage to rip it out | 08:19 |
| tiantian | mostly templates in our product team is using AWS resources:( | 08:20 |
| shardy | I always imagined we'd end up with CFN resources as provider resources (nested stack templates) | 08:20 |
| skraynev | therve: ok :) I just wanted to clarify it in light of changes in nova ;) | 08:20 |
| shardy | but our stack abstraction has ended up so heavyweight I think the performance penalty would be too much atm | 08:20 |
| therve | shardy, We can still do that. And then optimize :) | 08:21 |
| therve | #topic Summit sessions | 08:21 |
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| shardy | tiantian: Thanks, that's good feedback - I suspected they are in quite wide use but it's hard to know for sure :) | 08:21 |
| therve | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-heat-sessions | 08:21 |
| shardy | +1000 on performance improvements | 08:22 |
| therve | Yeah I believe that's one focus | 08:22 |
| shardy | Heat has become, by far, the worst memory hog on the TripleO undercloud recently | 08:22 |
| therve | Still, there are probably other topics :). I sent an email to the list, but didn't get any feedback yet | 08:22 |
| shardy | we fixed it a while back, but it's crept back up again :( | 08:22 |
| therve | shardy, We can split that topic in several sessions, 40 minutes is probably not enough | 08:22 |
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| ricolin | improve +1 | 08:23 |
| therve | We have 12 slots. If we have relic topics from Tokyo we can revive them too | 08:24 |
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| therve | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-heat-sessions | 08:24 |
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| therve | *cricket sound* | 08:26 |
| skraynev | therve: do you plan prepare list of pain points for performance ? | 08:26 |
| shardy | I don't feel like we've made much progress on the composition improvements or breaking the stack barrier | 08:26 |
| shardy | those may be worth revisiting | 08:26 |
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| skraynev | therve: honestly I did not research this area deeply :) | 08:27 |
| therve | skraynev, I started to | 08:27 |
| therve | skraynev, I'm interested about what Rally can do for us, if you know | 08:27 |
| shardy | One thing I've also been wondering about is do we need a heat option which optimizes for all-in-one environments | 08:27 |
| shardy | we've been optimizing more and more for breaking work out over RPC, but this makes performance increasingly bad for typical all-in-one deployments | 08:28 |
| skraynev | therve: awesome, it will be really useful to discuss the described issues. | 08:28 |
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| therve | shardy, Yeah I think there is a tradeoff to be made | 08:28 |
| skraynev | therve: which date estimate for proposing topics for sessions ? | 08:28 |
| therve | Final deadline next week | 08:29 |
| therve | We still have next meeting | 08:29 |
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| skraynev | therve: i.e. when do you plan start migrate it from etherpad to schedule ? | 08:29 |
| skraynev | therve: aha | 08:29 |
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| skraynev | got it | 08:29 |
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| therve | I'd rather have it done before, obviously :) | 08:31 |
| therve | shardy, I'm also a bit concerned with convergence, which performs even worse than the regular workflow | 08:31 |
| shardy | therve: Yeah, that's kinda the root of my question | 08:31 |
| shardy | e.g do we need an abstraction which defeats some of that overhead for e.g developer environments | 08:32 |
| shardy | My changes to RPC nested stacks were the first step, and convergence goes a step further | 08:32 |
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| therve | We don't do the expensive polling over RPC though | 08:33 |
| therve | shardy, For dev, you can try the fake messaging driver | 08:33 |
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| shardy | therve: Yeah, this is the discussion I'd like to have (not necessarily at summit, just generally) | 08:33 |
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| shardy | is there a way to offer at least docs on how to make aio enviroments work better | 08:34 |
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| shardy | or at least as well as they once did ;) | 08:34 |
| shardy | or do we need to abstract things internally to enable that | 08:34 |
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| therve | Well, I'd like all envs to perform well :) | 08:35 |
| skraynev | shardy: I have some graphics for comparison convergence vs legacy (it based on Angus written scenarios for rally) | 08:35 |
| therve | I don't think there is any reason for things to do badly, except bad implementation | 08:35 |
| shardy | therve: Sure, me too - I'm just pointing out we're regressing badly for some sorts of deployments | 08:35 |
| skraynev | however I measured it on liberty code :( | 08:35 |
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| skraynev | shardy: btw... what about plans of enabling TripleO job against convergence | 08:36 |
| skraynev | I remmeber, that we discussed it early | 08:36 |
| shardy | skraynev: This is related to my question - we're hitting heat RPC timeouts without convergence due to the TripleO undercloud being an all-in-one enviromnent | 08:37 |
| shardy | I'm pretty sure convergence will make that worse | 08:37 |
| shardy | we can do some tests, but I don't think we can enable convergence for tripleo until we resove some of the performance issues | 08:37 |
| shardy | e.g we increased the worker count because of hitting RPC timeouts for nested stacks | 08:37 |
| shardy | which made us run out of memory | 08:38 |
| shardy | convergence will make the situation worse AFAICT | 08:38 |
| shardy | Obviously it's a similar experience for developers and other aio users | 08:38 |
| therve | Most likely | 08:38 |
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| skraynev | shardy: hm.. interesting. do you have guess why it happens ? I mean where exactly we have little performance ? | 08:40 |
| therve | Presumably we're doing to many things in parallel? Maybe we should try to limit that | 08:40 |
| shardy | skraynev: because we create >70 nested stacks with 4 workers, which causes Heat to DoS itself and use >2GB of memory | 08:40 |
| therve | Doing it a bit more sequentially could work much better | 08:41 |
| shardy | therve: Yeah, we've already done stuff like unrolling nesting to improve things | 08:41 |
| shardy | effectively compromising on our use of the heat template model due to implementation limitations | 08:41 |
| skraynev | shardy: could you try to use https://review.openstack.org/#/c/301323/ ? | 08:42 |
| shardy | but we don't want to do too much sequentially, because we've got constraints in terms of wall-time for our CI | 08:42 |
| skraynev | or https://review.openstack.org/#/c/244117/ | 08:42 |
| skraynev | sounds, like it may help you | 08:42 |
| therve | The batch work may be a interesting thing to try indeed | 08:43 |
| therve | Anyway | 08:43 |
| therve | #topic Open discussion | 08:43 |
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| shardy | skraynev: thanks, looks interesting, although zaneb appears to be opposing it | 08:43 |
| skraynev | shardy: IMO it will be really good test-case for these patches | 08:44 |
| shardy | skraynev: yup, I'll pull them and give it a try, thanks! | 08:44 |
| skraynev | :) good. | 08:44 |
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| therve | shardy, A good thing would be to find a reproducer without tripleo | 08:46 |
| therve | Ideally without servers at all | 08:46 |
| therve | I wonder if just nested stacks of TestResource would trigger the issues | 08:46 |
| skraynev | therve: I afraid, that we may have issue with reproducing it on devstack. in this case it will be really bad for normal development/fixing. | 08:47 |
| shardy | therve: Yeah I did raise one against convergence with a reproducer that may emulate what we're seeeing | 08:47 |
| shardy | let me find it | 08:47 |
| shardy | I'm pretty sure it can be reproduced, I'll raise a bug | 08:48 |
| therve | Cool | 08:48 |
| therve | Anything else? | 08:48 |
| therve | Alright thanks all | 08:50 |
| therve | #endmeeting | 08:50 |
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| rluethi | hello. anyone here for training-labs? | 10:31 |
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| julen | rluethi: hi! | 10:32 |
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| rluethi | hi julen | 10:33 |
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| rluethi | #startmeeting training_labs | 10:33 |
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| rluethi | julen: how is your project going? | 10:34 |
| julen | a little slow with the PXE... I am on holiday, and you know, not much connectivity in Bremen. | 10:35 |
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| julen | but the first talk is almost ready | 10:35 |
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| julen | I have to send you the draft of the second one | 10:36 |
| rluethi | okay, no hurry. | 10:36 |
| julen | I'm gonna ping Pranav on gtalk | 10:37 |
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| rluethi | I am curious to see the PXE booting work, though :). | 10:37 |
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| julen | well.. it should not be too difficult. I just have to figure out how to assign some variables | 10:39 |
| julen | any news with Mitaka? | 10:39 |
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| rluethi | Any way I can help? | 10:39 |
| julen | sure... I have to get back to the code and try to remember where I got lost | 10:40 |
| rluethi | The Mitaka port is pretty much done. But there are some open issues: | 10:40 |
| rluethi | object storage is still missing, we should cut liberty before we merge mitaka, and we cannot use the regular mitaka repo yet because it contains old packages. | 10:41 |
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| rluethi | we don't need object storage before merging, we can add it afterwards. | 10:41 |
| rluethi | telemetry should work again as well. | 10:42 |
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| julen | well... the official release should be coming in a few weeks anyway | 10:43 |
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| rluethi | I ran the installation cycle about 40 times in a row without any issues. | 10:43 |
| julen | I just tested the core components and it was all fine | 10:43 |
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| julen | yes, I ran it just twice or so, but also with no issue | 10:44 |
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| dguitarbite | julen: Hi | 10:45 |
| rluethi | hey, dguitarbite | 10:45 |
| dguitarbite | rluethi: hello | 10:45 |
| dguitarbite | #startmeeting training-labs | 10:45 |
| openstack | dguitarbite: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress. Use #endmeeting first. | 10:45 |
| dguitarbite | oops | 10:45 |
| rluethi | #topic zip-files! | 10:45 |
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| julen | hi dguitarbite! | 10:46 |
| dguitarbite | rluethi: No progress yet. | 10:46 |
| dguitarbite | rluethi: I need to initiate this conversation soon. I would although keep some time around for the summit for sure :) | 10:46 |
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| rluethi | okay. what else is there to talk about? | 10:47 |
| dguitarbite | Merge Mitaka? | 10:47 |
| rluethi | #topic mitaka | 10:48 |
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| dguitarbite | Tested on KVM and VirtualBox on Linux and Mac from my side. | 10:48 |
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| rluethi | As I said earlier: | 10:48 |
| rluethi | The Mitaka port is pretty much done. But there are some open issues: | 10:48 |
| rluethi | object storage is still missing, we should cut liberty before we merge mitaka, and we cannot use the regular mitaka repo yet because it contains old packages. | 10:48 |
| rluethi | we don't need object storage before merging, we can add it afterwards. | 10:48 |
| dguitarbite | Yes I would say that object storage should be another patch | 10:49 |
| dguitarbite | esp. since this is the first time we add it, | 10:49 |
| dguitarbite | Shall I take up Object storage? | 10:49 |
| rluethi | I have partially implemented it. | 10:49 |
| dguitarbite | Ok | 10:49 |
| dguitarbite | No problemo. | 10:49 |
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| rluethi | I could post them and let you continue, but I think you have more urgent stuff to work on. | 10:50 |
| julen | the official release will come in two weeks or so anyway | 10:50 |
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| dguitarbite | yes true | 10:51 |
| dguitarbite | I will let you add Swift support this time | 10:51 |
| dguitarbite | I will focus on getting the webpage and tarball's ready | 10:51 |
| rluethi | that would be awesome. | 10:51 |
| julen | sounds good | 10:52 |
| rluethi | and julen is going to give us PXE booting. | 10:52 |
| dguitarbite | wow! | 10:52 |
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| julen | rluethi: yeah! :D | 10:52 |
| dguitarbite | That is amazing!!! | 10:52 |
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| julen | well.. but I still have to figure out some issues with some variables... :P | 10:53 |
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| rluethi | ping me if you need any help. | 10:53 |
| julen | rluethi: I will | 10:53 |
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| rluethi | #topic meeting time | 10:55 |
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| rluethi | we picked this slot to make it possible for contributors from east asia to join us. | 10:55 |
| rluethi | hasn't happened in quite a while, and I gather the time is rather inconvenient for the rest of us. | 10:56 |
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| rluethi | so, move? | 10:56 |
| dguitarbite | Yes lets move it | 10:56 |
| dguitarbite | I will create a doodle and we could all think about it and vote. | 10:56 |
| julen | I'm ok with whichever time | 10:56 |
| rluethi | k. | 10:56 |
| julen | well.. but so far, it's just us three, right? | 10:56 |
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| rluethi | there are other people on and off. for the past weeks, it's been the three of us. | 10:57 |
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| dguitarbite | I have the doodle ready | 10:59 |
| dguitarbite | Its not so easy. We need to check free slots for the channels. | 10:59 |
| rluethi | right. | 10:59 |
| dguitarbite | I will take a look at the IRC meeting channel slots day after or at the most by Friday | 11:00 |
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| rluethi | great. | 11:00 |
| dguitarbite | So we could probably change this for next or next to next weekend. | 11:00 |
| dguitarbite | Awesome :) | 11:00 |
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| rluethi | anything else? | 11:01 |
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| dguitarbite | not from my side. | 11:01 |
| rluethi | julen? | 11:01 |
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| julen | so, homework: PXE and talk | 11:02 |
| julen | right? | 11:02 |
| dguitarbite | yeah ... | 11:02 |
| julen | anything else? | 11:02 |
| dguitarbite | sounds like a good plan | 11:02 |
| rluethi | yes | 11:02 |
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| dguitarbite | okthen. i need to run now. | 11:03 |
| rluethi | That's all, folks! | 11:03 |
| dguitarbite | See you guys soon :) | 11:03 |
| rluethi | #endmeeting | 11:03 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Apr 6 11:03:24 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 11:03 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_labs/2016/training_labs.2016-04-06-10.33.html | 11:03 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_labs/2016/training_labs.2016-04-06-10.33.txt | 11:03 |
| julen | see you rluethi: | 11:03 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_labs/2016/training_labs.2016-04-06-10.33.log.html | 11:03 |
| rluethi | bye julen, dguitarbite | 11:03 |
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| zhiyuan_vega | hi yipei, what's the bug id of the stack.sh bug you register? | 12:57 |
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| Yipei | i tested last week, still have the problem | 12:58 |
| zhiyuan_vega | you have registered a bug, right? | 12:59 |
| zhiyuan_vega | in launchpad for devstack | 12:59 |
| Yipei | yes, no one fix it | 13:00 |
| zhiyuan_vega | what's the ID? | 13:00 |
| Yipei | https://bugs.launchpad.net/devstack/+bug/1540802 | 13:00 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1540802 in devstack "Installing devstack with multi-region setting fails" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 13:00 |
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| zhiyuan_vega | ok | 13:00 |
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| zhiyuan_vega | i will try to solve it | 13:01 |
| joehuang | hi, | 13:02 |
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| ztang | hi | 13:02 |
| Ronghui | this bug seems slove last week | 13:02 |
| joehuang | let's start tricircle meeting | 13:02 |
| ztang | ok | 13:02 |
| joehuang | #startmeeting tricircle | 13:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Apr 6 13:02:46 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is joehuang. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:02 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tricircle' | 13:02 |
| joehuang | #topic rollcall | 13:03 |
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| zhiyuan_vega | really? the status is still "confirmed" | 13:03 |
| joehuang | #info joehuang | 13:03 |
| zhiyuan_vega | #info zhiyuan | 13:03 |
| Yipei | #info Yipei | 13:03 |
| Ronghui | # Ronghui | 13:03 |
| Ronghui | #info Ronghui | 13:03 |
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| Ronghui | change the stack.sh in node2 | 13:03 |
| joehuang | #topic cross OpenStack L2 networking | 13:04 |
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| joehuang | ok, so now the devstack scripts issue is not clear being fixed or not | 13:05 |
| joehuang | but would like to know whether there is any issue in ztang's environment? | 13:05 |
| zhiyuan_vega | i can submit a patch to fix the upstream bug | 13:05 |
| Ronghui | we also meet the same problem in node2 | 13:05 |
| joehuang | #action submit a patch in devstack to fix the multi-region installation issue | 13:06 |
| joehuang | ok, last friday, we have a very good discussion on cross OpenStack L2 networking | 13:06 |
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| joehuang | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/TricircleCrossPodL2Networking | 13:07 |
| zhiyuan_vega | i have made a summary in etherpad | 13:07 |
| Ronghui | multi-region problem and change the stack.sh where OS_REGION_NAME=RegionOne instead of OS_REGION_NAME=RegionTwo | 13:07 |
| joehuang | thanks to zhiyuan :) | 13:07 |
| joehuang | #info and in OPNFV, there is a real use case need the feature of cross openstack l2 networking | 13:08 |
| zhiyuan_vega | @Ronghui, yes, we need to merge this change in DevStack code tree | 13:08 |
| joehuang | #info two openstack instances in two sites | 13:08 |
| Ronghui | yes the solution now is to fix the stack.sh | 13:09 |
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| joehuang | and deploy vRouter service VM in each OpenStack | 13:09 |
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| joehuang | #info and deploy vRouter service VM in each OpenStack | 13:09 |
| joehuang | #info these two vRouters in different subnet needs to connect with each other through cross OpenStack L2 network | 13:10 |
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| joehuang | The L2 networking feature is the top1, for OPNFV wants to use this feature in OPNFV D release | 13:11 |
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| joehuang | and the project is IPv6 | 13:11 |
| joehuang | so we also need to check Tricircle can work compatible with IPv6 | 13:11 |
| joehuang | #action Tricircle should be able work in IPv6 | 13:12 |
| joehuang | ok. zhiyuan, could you have a short summary about last week's dicussion | 13:12 |
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| zhiyuan_vega | We discussed the scenarios cross pod L2 networking needs to support and how Nova API gateway can handle the network segmentation information on top OpenStack and bottom OpenStack | 13:15 |
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| zhiyuan_vega | We finally figured out that we mainly have two kinds of scenarios: shared segmentation ID and different segmantation ID | 13:17 |
| joehuang | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/TricircleCrossPodL2Networking | 13:17 |
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| joehuang | #info one more scenario needs to be added: a default network type should be configured, because tenenat is not able to specify network type and segment id | 13:19 |
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| zhiyuan_vega | I remember that Neutron has a "default tenant network" configuration option | 13:24 |
| joehuang | yes, this configuration could be reused | 13:25 |
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| joehuang | we have a very rough framework for L2 networking | 13:26 |
| joehuang | we need to file a spec, and review just like code | 13:26 |
| Ronghui | hi , Joe what is file the spec | 13:26 |
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| joehuang | submit a spec | 13:26 |
| joehuang | for example | 13:27 |
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| Ronghui | hi ,Joe we will try this work | 13:28 |
| joehuang | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/270786/ | 13:28 |
| joehuang | great | 13:28 |
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| ztang | Joe, i think we are interested in this work. this can make our team member to be familar with this architecture. And our other member, Long asks for leave tonight. In this week, the code work go more smoothly than before. | 13:29 |
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| joehuang | and register a BP just like https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tricircle/+spec/implement-stateless | 13:29 |
| joehuang | very good | 13:30 |
| joehuang | #action spec and bp for cross pod l2 networking, based on https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/TricircleCrossPodL2Networking | 13:30 |
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| joehuang | do you have any question on spec and BP | 13:31 |
| joehuang | just create a folder under tricircle root, for example, in https://github.com/openstack/tricircle add one more spec folder | 13:32 |
| Ronghui | we try this work and if meet some problem we email u guys or discuss on openstack-tricircle | 13:33 |
| joehuang | and the spec is writen in .rst for review | 13:33 |
| joehuang | or mail-list | 13:33 |
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| joehuang | great | 13:33 |
| zhiyuan_vega | rst short for reStructuredText | 13:34 |
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| ztang | joe, for i am very busy in this month for other projects. tommorrow, i will have a meeting with our group, how to start and finish the current works. | 13:34 |
| joehuang | understand | 13:35 |
| Ronghui | the theme is L2 networking? | 13:35 |
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| ztang | thx | 13:35 |
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| joehuang | any things to be discussed can use openstack-dev maillist or #openstack-tricircle channel | 13:36 |
| Ronghui | yes , i gain a lot from the channel tircircle | 13:37 |
| joehuang | and for the second topic, pod schedulin | 13:37 |
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| joehuang | I would like to have a discussion similar as the L2 networking | 13:37 |
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| Ronghui | what u mean for pod schedulin? | 13:38 |
| joehuang | for one AZ including several pods | 13:38 |
| joehuang | one AZ in Amazon can support 50000+ servers | 13:38 |
| zhiyuan_vega | have we discussed this use case in our doc? | 13:39 |
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| joehuang | OpenStack is very not good at large scale AZ | 13:39 |
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| joehuang | Yipei, are you still interested in this area? | 13:40 |
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| Yipei | some description has been made in #link https://docs.google.com/document/d/18kZZ1snMOCD9IQvUKI5NVDzSASpw-QKj7l2zNqMEd3g/edit# | 13:40 |
| Yipei | yes | 13:40 |
| Yipei | but i think i still have some questions | 13:40 |
| joehuang | This feature has already required for some production cloud, it's quite meaningful | 13:41 |
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| joehuang | please | 13:41 |
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| ztang | Ronghui, how about your tools to over wall? | 13:41 |
| Yipei | pod scheduling means scheduling resource or scheduling pods from one AZ to another? | 13:41 |
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| Yipei | i think pod binding is clear enough | 13:41 |
| joehuang | no, select proper pod to provision VM, and VM volume co-location | 13:42 |
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| Yipei | i see | 13:42 |
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| joehuang | yes, it's how to dynamicly binding tennant to a pod | 13:42 |
| Ronghui | u mean choose the best pod to provision VM? | 13:42 |
| joehuang | and especially in capacity expansion, it's a little complex | 13:42 |
| joehuang | yes | 13:42 |
| Yipei | i think i understand the basic idea of pod scheduling | 13:42 |
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| Yipei | i am interested in this topic | 13:43 |
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| joehuang | so let's have a dicussion in this friday in #openstack-tricircle | 13:43 |
| Ronghui | should we need to monitor the date of resources of each pod? | 13:43 |
| ztang | is pod scheduling based on nova? | 13:43 |
| joehuang | the time is UTC+1 (Beijing time 9:00AM) | 13:43 |
| Yipei | ok, got it | 13:44 |
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| joehuang | it could be very complex, but we can do step by step | 13:44 |
| zhiyuan_vega | ok | 13:44 |
| joehuang | just like nova scheduler has a lot of filters | 13:44 |
| joehuang | we also need pluggable binding mechnism | 13:45 |
| joehuang | binding better than scheduling? isn't it? | 13:45 |
| Ronghui | i think we meet all the diff filters of diff pod | 13:45 |
| joehuang | not so fine granlular | 13:46 |
| Ronghui | diff pod will have diff filers | 13:46 |
| joehuang | two layer | 13:46 |
| joehuang | tricircle is coarse grain | 13:46 |
| joehuang | and bottom pod is fine grain scheduling | 13:46 |
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| joehuang | #action discuss pod binding in #openstack-tricircle this friday UTC+1(Beijing 9:00AM) | 13:47 |
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| Ronghui | combined two pod sheduler and get a best mechanism to deploy the VM | 13:47 |
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| joehuang | And for the last topic, Zhiyuan has already submitted pacth for review | 13:48 |
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| joehuang | and Ronghui, ztang could you review Zhiyuan's patch, how to add you to the reviewer list? | 13:48 |
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| ztang | ok, I'm glad to | 13:49 |
| Yipei | @Zhiyuan, in my environment, simply set OS_REGION_NAME as RegionOne is not enough, i still need to remove "create_volume_types" | 13:49 |
| Ronghui | me too | 13:49 |
| joehuang | ok, please zhiyuan send the patch link in mail-list, so that ztang and ronghui can review and comment it. | 13:50 |
| ztang | It's my pleasure | 13:50 |
| zhiyuan_vega | fine | 13:50 |
| joehuang | ok, let's end today's meeting | 13:50 |
| joehuang | thanks for your time | 13:50 |
| zhiyuan_vega | @Yipei, check it tomorrow | 13:50 |
| Yipei | ok | 13:50 |
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| joehuang | #endmeeting | 13:51 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Apr 6 13:51:04 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:51 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tricircle/2016/tricircle.2016-04-06-13.02.html | 13:51 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tricircle/2016/tricircle.2016-04-06-13.02.txt | 13:51 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tricircle/2016/tricircle.2016-04-06-13.02.log.html | 13:51 |
| joehuang | bye | 13:51 |
| Ronghui | @Yipei , in my environment set OS_REGION_NAME as RegionOne can solve the problem u submit the bug, but th devstack can not run the last | 13:51 |
| lige | bye | 13:51 |
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| Zara | anyone about for the fabled storyboard meeting? | 15:00 |
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| Zara | #startmeeting storyboard | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Apr 6 15:00:41 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Zara. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'storyboard' | 15:00 |
| Zara | #topic Announcements | 15:00 |
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| Zara | Infra have a bug stomp on the 13th! | 15:01 |
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| Zara | using storyboard! | 15:01 |
| Zara | if I find the email I'll link it! | 15:01 |
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| Zara | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-infra/2016-April/004124.html | 15:02 |
| Zara | there we go | 15:02 |
| Zara | starts this time next week | 15:02 |
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| Zara | #topic urgent items | 15:02 |
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| Zara | None listed | 15:03 |
| Zara | well, npm stuff is acting strange all round, but that's not really unique to us | 15:03 |
| Zara | #topic In progress work | 15:03 |
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| Zara | #info SotK is still on holiday, worklists and boards are much the same as they were | 15:03 |
| Zara | and by that, I mean 'exactly the same' :) | 15:03 |
| Zara | I've been looking at the python client | 15:04 |
| Zara | it works really well, especially considering it hasn't been used in around a year | 15:04 |
| Zara | so thanks, NikitaKonovalov | 15:04 |
| Zara | I can do PUTs with it to change a story's status | 15:04 |
| Zara | so now, I'm looking at gerrit | 15:04 |
| Zara | currently importing gerritlib into a python file | 15:05 |
| Zara | so that I can pass some of the stream events to my test instance | 15:05 |
| Zara | well, some things from the stream events | 15:05 |
| Zara | so to be clear, that's updating a storyboard instance from gerrit, *not* the other way around | 15:05 |
| Zara | but first, yeah, need to actually access the stream events with my program | 15:06 |
| Zara | or access anything at all, currently getting errors as 'my key is encrypted' | 15:06 |
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| Zara | #info Zara is confident the python client works nicely, is investigating python scripts consuming gerrit stream events | 15:06 |
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| Zara | well, I'm updating the client still, but it works nicely enough for this | 15:07 |
| Zara | and I believe betherly is still plugging away at the tutorial :) | 15:07 |
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| Zara | #topic Discussion topics | 15:08 |
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| Zara | I have none listed | 15:08 |
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| Zara | mainly because I wasn't confident there would be anyone around to discuss anything | 15:09 |
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| Zara | #topic Open Discussion | 15:09 |
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| Zara | Discuss! | 15:09 |
| Zara | We have 50 minutes! | 15:09 |
| Zara | for my part: a bunch of sb packages are probably old and outdated by now (I'm thinking about this due to the npm/node stuff, but there must be others) | 15:10 |
| Zara | we should look at this sometime | 15:10 |
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| Zara | I have only updated a thing when I've needed a feature from a new version, or an old version has caused a noticeable bug | 15:10 |
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| Zara | but really, it should be as up-to-date as it can be without being unstable | 15:11 |
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| Zara | Other things... | 15:11 |
| Zara | general plan before summit: | 15:11 |
| Zara | * finish up automatic boards | 15:12 |
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| Zara | * fix automatic-worklists-from-tags | 15:12 |
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| Zara | *ideally hook up a gerrit to a sb instance; doubt I'll get a production thing done before then | 15:12 |
| Zara | if there's anything else we should aim to do before the summit, do say | 15:12 |
| Zara | but that's what I'm aiming for | 15:13 |
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| Zara | if anyone else has anything to say, go for it, otherwise I'll end this sometime between half past and quarter to | 15:17 |
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| Zara | the uncertainty adds to the suspense. | 15:18 |
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| Zara | 2 minutes remaining | 15:28 |
| Zara | if anyone has just cause to show why this meeting cannot be ended at half past, let them speak now, or forever hold their peace. | 15:29 |
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| Zara | or if anyone can show just cause, come to that | 15:30 |
| Zara | anyway. | 15:30 |
| Zara | #endmeeting | 15:30 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Apr 6 15:30:15 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:30 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/2016/storyboard.2016-04-06-15.00.html | 15:30 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/2016/storyboard.2016-04-06-15.00.txt | 15:30 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/2016/storyboard.2016-04-06-15.00.log.html | 15:30 |
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| smcginnis | #startmeeting Cinder | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Apr 6 16:00:01 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is smcginnis. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Cinder)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'cinder' | 16:00 |
| Swanson | hello | 16:00 |
| smcginnis | Courtesy ping: dulek duncant eharney geguileo winston-d e0ne jungleboyj jgriffith thingee smcginnis hemna xyang tbarron scottda erlon rhedlind jbernard _alastor_ vincent_hou kmartin patrickeast sheel dongwenjuan JaniceLee cFouts Thelo vivekd adrianofr mtanino yuriy_n17 karlamrhein diablo_rojo jay.xu jgregor baumann | 16:00 |
| yhayashi | Hello | 16:00 |
| jgregor | Hello! | 16:00 |
| eharney | hi | 16:00 |
| bswartz | .o/ | 16:00 |
| flip214 | hi | 16:00 |
| geguileo | smcginnis: Thanks! | 16:00 |
| diablo_rojo | Hello :) | 16:00 |
| mtanino | hi | 16:00 |
| geguileo | Hi | 16:00 |
| tbarron | hi | 16:00 |
| scottda | hi | 16:00 |
| jseiler | hi | 16:00 |
| hemna | hey | 16:00 |
| kmartin | hi | 16:00 |
| baumann | Hey there | 16:00 |
| rajinir | hi | 16:00 |
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| dulek | Hi (parallel meeting, so I'll be reading using one eye only) | 16:00 |
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| patrickeast | Hi | 16:00 |
| smcginnis | dulek: ;) | 16:00 |
| xyang1 | hi | 16:00 |
| adrianofr_ | hi | 16:00 |
| scottda | dulek .) | 16:01 |
| smcginnis | Thanks to everyone that stepped up to run the meeting last week. | 16:01 |
| smcginnis | Horrible timing on my side. | 16:01 |
| smcginnis | Forgot about Europe DST. | 16:01 |
| rhedlind | hi | 16:01 |
| smcginnis | Ended up the one spot where I couldn't get on - in the middle of the sea with no signal. | 16:01 |
| smcginnis | #topic Release Status | 16:01 |
| Swanson | Was your kid barfing at the time? | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Release Status (Meeting topic: Cinder)" | 16:01 | |
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| smcginnis | #info RC-2 will be final Mitaka release | 16:02 |
| e0ne | hi | 16:02 |
| thingee | o/ | 16:02 |
| DuncanT | Hi | 16:02 |
| cFouts | hi | 16:02 |
| yuriy_n17 | Hi! | 16:02 |
| smcginnis | Release is set. We have a few backports for the first update, but I think we can declare M mostly baked. | 16:02 |
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| smcginnis | Great work everyone on all that we got done the last cycle. | 16:02 |
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| e0ne | smcginnis: it's a good news! | 16:03 |
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| Swanson | My only regret is that I couldn't code replication support a third time. | 16:03 |
| smcginnis | Swanson: :P | 16:03 |
| Swanson | ;) | 16:03 |
| jgriffith | Swanson: hush! | 16:03 |
| jgriffith | Swanson: it can be arranged ya know | 16:03 |
| smcginnis | With that - time to start focusing on Newton. | 16:03 |
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| Swanson | jgriffith, I'll be good. | 16:03 |
| smcginnis | Repl v3, here we come! | 16:03 |
| DuncanT | Swanson: Tiramasu has you covered in Newton | 16:03 |
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| smcginnis | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-spec-review-tracking Spec and review focus tracking. | 16:04 |
| xyang | Swanson, DuncanT: yes:) | 16:04 |
| * jgriffith still isn't convinced that's a great idea... but ok :) | 16:04 | |
| smcginnis | Tasty tiramisu. | 16:04 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: You just want more cheesecake. | 16:04 |
| jgriffith | smcginnis: but of course | 16:04 |
| xyang | jgriffith: which one? Tiramisu or spec tracking? | 16:04 |
| smcginnis | Hah! | 16:04 |
| jgriffith | and whoever sent me one last week, thank you!! It was yummy | 16:04 |
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| diablo_rojo | xyang: My question too. | 16:05 |
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| xyang | :) | 16:05 |
| * bswartz quietly prepares double-fudge-brownie spec... | 16:05 | |
| jgriffith | Tiramisu, I'm nervous about volume only rep failovers | 16:05 |
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| * DuncanT decides to name all his future after good single malt, just in case | 16:05 | |
| e0ne | we have to pre-order tiramisu for our beer night at summit | 16:05 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: I definitely think that will be an active summit session. | 16:05 |
| hemna | DuncanT, +1 | 16:05 |
| smcginnis | DuncanT: Smart man! | 16:05 |
| jgriffith | but no need to rat hole on that here | 16:05 |
| smcginnis | So spec tracking... :) | 16:06 |
| diablo_rojo | Better left for the summit | 16:06 |
| smcginnis | I just put a few things in there for now. | 16:06 |
| xyang | jgriffith: you apparently changed your mind again:), but let's discuss later | 16:06 |
| smcginnis | We can resort and prioritize things as we go. Probably some better ideas after the summit. | 16:06 |
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| smcginnis | I'd like to see if we can use this better for focusing reviews. | 16:07 |
| jgriffith | xyang: nah... I'll stay out of your way | 16:07 |
| smcginnis | Seems to have worked well for Nova at least. | 16:07 |
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| smcginnis | #link http://releases.openstack.org/newton/schedule.html Planned Newton release schedule | 16:07 |
| scottda | smcginnis: Maybe a Friday working session for setting and sorting priorites? | 16:07 |
| xyang | jgriffith: we need your input | 16:07 |
| smcginnis | scottda: Good idea. I'll add that to the etherpad to make sure we don't miss it. | 16:08 |
| jgriffith | smcginnis: did I miss the link? | 16:08 |
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| smcginnis | jgriffith: Which one? | 16:08 |
| jgriffith | smcginnis: nm found it ;) | 16:08 |
| jgriffith | sorry | 16:08 |
| smcginnis | Review focus: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-spec-review-tracking | 16:08 |
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| smcginnis | jgriffith: No worries. Multiple streams going at the same time. | 16:08 |
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| smcginnis | I'll publish the Cinder specific deadlines on the newton release schedule soon. | 16:09 |
| smcginnis | I'm thinking our deadlines in Mitaka worked well for the most part. | 16:09 |
| smcginnis | Anyone have any input or opinion that any of it should be different for N? | 16:09 |
| e0ne | smcginnis: will we have the same deadlines for new drivers? | 16:09 |
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| smcginnis | e0ne: That's my thought so far, unless someone feels strongly otherwise. | 16:10 |
| e0ne | smcginnis: from my PoV it works better | 16:10 |
| smcginnis | OK, well if anyone has any strong opinions otherwise, just let me know. | 16:11 |
| smcginnis | But I did think it went well. | 16:11 |
| smcginnis | #topic Summit session planning | 16:11 |
| diablo_rojo | I think the same deadlines would be good. | 16:11 |
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| smcginnis | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-cinder-summit-ideas Summit session planning | 16:11 |
| smcginnis | I need to get the sessions added to the schedule. | 16:11 |
| smcginnis | I'll start going through and allocating topics to specific timeslots, hopefully this week yet. | 16:12 |
| smcginnis | Please add any topics to the etherpad. | 16:12 |
| smcginnis | We can adjust things, but the biggest ones I'll put in the fishbowl sessions, larger topics for the group in working sessions, misc. topics in the Friday work day. | 16:13 |
| smcginnis | We were able to power through topics on the last day in Tokyo. | 16:13 |
| smcginnis | So make sure anything you want discussed is on there so it's not missed. | 16:13 |
| e0ne | hemna: do we want session about privsep in os-brick? | 16:13 |
| DuncanT | Please also note if you thing a topic will be contentious / uncontentious - we waste a fair amount of time on things where there's no disagreement some summits | 16:14 |
| smcginnis | e0ne: Looks like it's under the nova session list. | 16:14 |
| hemna | e0ne, I'm not sure why. it's about to land :) | 16:14 |
| smcginnis | DuncanT: Good point. | 16:14 |
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| diablo_rojo | now that all the privsep stuff has landed | 16:14 |
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| diablo_rojo | Or there is one more | 16:14 |
| smcginnis | We want to make sure folks have had time to digest and discuss ahead of time so it's productive. | 16:14 |
| jgriffith | smcginnis: DuncanT so only things that we can argue about :) | 16:14 |
| hemna | we just need folks to test it. it's basically ready to roll. | 16:14 |
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| smcginnis | But we also don't need to dedicate a topic just as a formality if everyone's already in agreement. | 16:15 |
| e0ne | hemna: good to know it | 16:15 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: Yeah, entertainment value. :) | 16:15 |
| jgriffith | smcginnis: :) | 16:15 |
| hemna | e0ne, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/277224/ | 16:15 |
| DuncanT | hemna: It's kind of broken from my PoV, given we're not in a rush anymore, I'd rather see it evolve slightly closer to the final vision before we merge it now | 16:15 |
| smcginnis | No, but really anything that needs some discussion or needs to make sure everyone is aware of. | 16:15 |
| eharney | hemna: trying to get my NFS CI job added to os-brick so i can test it with that | 16:16 |
| e0ne | hemna: It's still in my TODOs list | 16:16 |
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| smcginnis | I actually think we have enough time, based on the number of slots we have. | 16:16 |
| hemna | e0ne, all the deps have landed, and the 3PAR and pure storage CI have passed now. (they had been failing due to the dependencies not landing) | 16:16 |
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| hemna | eharney, sweet! | 16:16 |
| DuncanT | hemna: Even if it is only one or two example calls being done properly | 16:16 |
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| smcginnis | So if we have a few that are just small updates, I'd rather have that than something coming out of the blue that most folks weren't aware of. | 16:16 |
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| hemna | DuncanT, well, I think this is a decent first step. I have several other patches in os-brick that are depending on this getting in (nova/cinder using os-brick's lvm) | 16:17 |
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| smcginnis | #topic Nova-Cinder API discussion | 16:18 |
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| DuncanT | hemna: Ok, I don't think it's massively harmful to merge what's there, I just really want to see an example of doing it properly so we can start working on it. Maybe ask Angus to do a parallel patch of one call site to start looking at that though, and allow other things to progress? | 16:18 |
| smcginnis | sheel: Hi! | 16:18 |
| sheel | smcginnis: hi | 16:18 |
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| sheel | smcginnis: it was regarding having idea about what was discussed in cinder-nova api discussions | 16:19 |
| scottda | sheel: I can give an update, since you were looking for a volunteer. | 16:19 |
| hemna | DuncanT, yah I think that's doable as follow ups. | 16:19 |
| scottda | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-nova-api-changes | 16:19 |
| sheel | smcginnis: I think scottda have updated something | 16:19 |
| sheel | scottda: yes please | 16:19 |
| scottda | There are a few topics, all related somewhat... | 16:19 |
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| scottda | Getting multi-attach in Nova is one of them. And that leads to possible changes in Cinder. | 16:19 |
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| scottda | You can see we have 4 alternatives in the etherpad. | 16:20 |
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| sheel | scottda: yes | 16:20 |
| scottda | hemna created a nice graph of Volume attach: #link https://www.gliffy.com/go/publish/image/10360157/L.png | 16:20 |
| scottda | At this point, we are wanting got get as much info out as possible, thus the graph. | 16:21 |
| scottda | We could use similar graphs for detach and Nova live migration. | 16:21 |
| hemna | scottda, I was just thinking about that | 16:21 |
| scottda | From there, we hope to examine the various alternatives. | 16:21 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: Have you had a chance to look at that etherpad. I think one of the alternatives was what you were pushing for. | 16:21 |
| scottda | And resolve them at the Summit with a Big Cage Match | 16:21 |
| hemna | scottda, if I get time I can work on creating a graph for live migration as well. | 16:21 |
| scottda | hemna: That's be swell. | 16:22 |
| smcginnis | scottda: Would love to have pretty graphs for all the workflows. | 16:22 |
| jgriffith | smcginnis: yep, and I added some things including comments | 16:22 |
| smcginnis | I think that could benefit everyone. | 16:22 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: Great, thanks! | 16:22 |
| jgriffith | and questions | 16:22 |
| smcginnis | I've seen some usage of PlantUML in other projects. | 16:22 |
| smcginnis | Don't know if we have a standard, but that's a pretty convenient one that would allow us to include the code in source and have it reviewed. | 16:22 |
| smcginnis | Just a suggestion. | 16:22 |
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| scottda | smcginnis: Yes, on that note, having a good , free tool for call graphs and flow charts would be great. Lotsa stuff could benefit. | 16:23 |
| hemna | smcginnis, I just did a search for web based uml tools | 16:23 |
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| sheel | smcginnis: +1 | 16:23 |
| hemna | I'd like one that is free that produces something like what I did. | 16:23 |
| jgriffith | smcginnis: I like it, OSS and free | 16:23 |
| smcginnis | Prety easy to use too. | 16:23 |
| scottda | It really makes a difference for these kind of complex design discussions. | 16:23 |
| jgriffith | and text language input for repo is a big plus | 16:24 |
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| scottda | Anyway, that's where the nova-cinder api stuff is today. | 16:24 |
| hemna | http://plantuml.com/ that one ? | 16:24 |
| smcginnis | hemna: Yep, that's it | 16:24 |
| smcginnis | I think there are python libraries for it. | 16:24 |
| smcginnis | Integration with things like Confluence, etc. | 16:24 |
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| scottda | With another meeting today at 2100- UTC in #openstack-meeting-cp | 16:24 |
| hemna | is there a GUI for editing ? if so, I can check it out and try to reproduce the same attach graph | 16:24 |
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| smcginnis | hemna: Maybe. I've only done text updates to generate the images. | 16:25 |
| sheel | hemna: we have other tools as well for same thing like Seqdiag | 16:25 |
| hemna | :( | 16:25 |
| smcginnis | hemna: Usually pretty good about layout. | 16:25 |
| smcginnis | hemna: Syntax is super simple. | 16:25 |
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| hemna | ok, I'd rather not have to spend time learning some text syntax | 16:25 |
| hemna | ok anyway | 16:25 |
| smcginnis | Super super simple. :) | 16:26 |
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| smcginnis | But fair enough. I'd rather see something than nothing. | 16:26 |
| smcginnis | Anything else on the nova-cinder topic to cover? | 16:26 |
| scottda | Not from me. | 16:27 |
| hemna | I added a 4th alternative yesterday | 16:27 |
| hemna | would be nice if folks can chew on it | 16:27 |
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| sheel | scottda: do we have only multi attach in this discussion ? | 16:27 |
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| scottda | sheel: No. multi-attach just brings forth many issues. | 16:28 |
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| sheel | scottda: ok..will go through etherpad for more details.. | 16:28 |
| sheel | scottda: thanks for pointers | 16:28 |
| scottda | Having some way to do a Cinder force-detach without Nova (in the case where Nova instance is gone) is another... | 16:28 |
| jgriffith | hemna: umm... I'm confused | 16:29 |
| scottda | But that kind of depends on attach/detach changes for multi-attach. | 16:29 |
| xyang | scottda, hemna: is the plan to fix all multi attach related issues in Nova in Newton? | 16:29 |
| smcginnis | That would be great if we could. | 16:29 |
| hemna | xyang, the plan is to get multi-attach working :) | 16:29 |
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| jgriffith | hemna: you just took my proposal for initialize_connection which already does part of it and moved it to reserve which *was* specifically JUST for reserving the volume? | 16:29 |
| scottda | And Nova live migration requires a way to update certain attach info (i.e. compute host). But that also depends on changes... | 16:29 |
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| xyang | hemna: ok:) | 16:29 |
| dulek | hemna: That would also be cool! :) | 16:29 |
| scottda | hemna: jgriffith Will you both be at the meeting today to discuss ? | 16:30 |
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| jgriffith | scottda: time? | 16:30 |
| scottda | 2100 UTC 1500 MDT | 16:31 |
| scottda | #openstack-meeting-cp | 16:31 |
| jgriffith | scottda: yeah. I can be there | 16:31 |
| jgriffith | scottda: please ping me if I forget :) | 16:31 |
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| hemna | jgriffith, basically, yes because it will give you the correct attachment_id throughout the entire process of the workflow. if you look at the code now, the volume_attachment table entry doesn't even exist until attach is called, which is the end of the process. | 16:31 |
| scottda | It will be a lot more fun with both of you there :) | 16:31 |
| smcginnis | I would definitely feel better if all of you guys are on the same page. :) | 16:31 |
| hemna | it's a much cleaner and explicit/straight forward approach IMHO. no magic lookup/discovery stuffs needed. | 16:32 |
| scottda | There is a sign up in the etherpad for interested people and you will be pinged for the meeting. | 16:32 |
| jgriffith | hemna: but you're just taking my proposal that you haven't given any feedback on and duplicating/moving it up one step further where IMO it doesn't belong? | 16:32 |
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| hemna | jgriffith, yup, because I don't like your proposal. | 16:33 |
| jgriffith | hemna: ok | 16:33 |
| scottda | hemna: jgriffith Let's get our alternatives and graphs together and discuss at today's meeting. | 16:33 |
| smcginnis | scottda: +1 | 16:33 |
| hemna | scottda, +1 | 16:33 |
| diablo_rojo | Have a good old fashioned debate | 16:33 |
| smcginnis | #topic Cinderclient support of /v3 endpoint and microversions | 16:33 |
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| scottda | Hi | 16:34 |
| smcginnis | scottda: Your a popular guy today. | 16:34 |
| smcginnis | *you're | 16:34 |
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| scottda | Just a prod to review cinderclient changes for microversion support: | 16:34 |
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| scottda | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/300028 | 16:34 |
| scottda | support for /v3 endpoint ^^ | 16:35 |
| scottda | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/301941/2 | 16:35 |
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| scottda | support for microversions ^^ | 16:35 |
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| xyang | scottda, smcginnis: do we have plan to move extension APIs to core APIs in Newton? Otherwise we can't use microversion on them | 16:35 |
| scottda | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/300585 | 16:35 |
| scottda | ameade: patch for /v3 endpoint in devstack ^^ | 16:35 |
| scottda | xyang: We had discussed it, and we should. Thanks for the reminder. | 16:36 |
| smcginnis | xyang: That's what manila did, right? | 16:36 |
| xyang | smcginnis: yes | 16:36 |
| bswartz | +! | 16:37 |
| bswartz | +1 | 16:37 |
| scottda | xyang: How hard would it be to do? | 16:37 |
| scottda | s/to do/for you to do/ | 16:37 |
| scottda | (see what I did there?) | 16:37 |
| bswartz | moving the extensions to core was susprisingly easy | 16:37 |
| xyang | scottda: in manila, it took one release to complete it | 16:37 |
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| xyang | bswartz: it just takes time and cinder has a lot more than manila | 16:37 |
| e0ne | xyang, scottda: sounds good | 16:38 |
| xyang | scottda: I think once you get one done, the rest should be easy | 16:38 |
| xyang | scottda: I can help as well | 16:38 |
| DuncanT | No reason why it should be slow, the patches should all be identicalish once the first on eis got right | 16:38 |
| e0ne | IMO, it will be helpful to track this progress in an etherpad | 16:38 |
| xyang | DuncanT: it just takes time for things to get merged | 16:38 |
| scottda | I can look at doing this. xyang I'll ping you | 16:38 |
| xyang | scottda: sounds good | 16:39 |
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| smcginnis | scottda: Anything else on this topic? | 16:39 |
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| bswartz | https://github.com/openstack/manila/commit/2467ccf223559e7542349a5336379c6ef607352c | 16:39 |
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| bswartz | example of moving extensions into core for manila | 16:40 |
| scottda | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/move-cinder-extensions-to-core | 16:40 |
| smcginnis | bswartz: Doesn't look horrible. | 16:40 |
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| xyang | smcginnis: coding is not hard. just takes time to get everything merged because there are so many extension apis | 16:41 |
| e0ne | scottda: thanks | 16:41 |
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| scottda | smcginnis: No. But please review. I hope we can make progress before the Summit | 16:41 |
| smcginnis | xyang: Yeah, it looks like something we'll just have to work our way through. | 16:41 |
| smcginnis | Certainly feasible to complete in N, but we'll need to pay attention to make sure it can. | 16:41 |
| smcginnis | scottda: Thanks! | 16:41 |
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| smcginnis | #topic Deprecate cinder-all | 16:42 |
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| smcginnis | DuncanT: Yeah, not sure about this one. | 16:42 |
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| DuncanT | smcginnis: It's entirely true that it is untested, I wondered if anybody had ever had/see a use for it | 16:42 |
| e0ne | IMO, it's not tested and probably not used at all. should we continut to maintain it? | 16:42 |
| eharney | i assume that nobody really uses this | 16:42 |
| DuncanT | smcginnis: Also whether other services (still) have a *-all binary | 16:43 |
| e0ne | eharney:+ | 16:43 |
| eharney | i drop it from our packages just to make sure nobody decides to have fun with it | 16:43 |
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| smcginnis | eharney: Oh, that's an interesting data point. | 16:43 |
| e0ne | tbarron maked a good comment about it in the review | 16:43 |
| eharney | nova-all still exists in their tree | 16:44 |
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| tbarron | wouldn't real customers get in trouble if they did this? | 16:44 |
| DuncanT | aharney: Can you add the comment about you dropping it to the review, please? | 16:44 |
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| tbarron | and we don't use it in dev environment to my knowledge. | 16:44 |
| eharney | tbarron: i think it should mostly "work" in theory | 16:44 |
| eharney | DuncanT: ok | 16:44 |
| tbarron | but scale? | 16:44 |
| tbarron | seems very uncloudy | 16:45 |
| dulek | tbarron: Well, this still runs 3 processes. | 16:45 |
| e0ne | eharney: TBH, I tested it today. it works. at least, I was able to create and delete a volume | 16:45 |
| dulek | tbarron: It certainly is in terms of running in containers for example. | 16:45 |
| tbarron | dulek: ok, but why? | 16:45 |
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| DuncanT | The issue I can see is if somebody does both cinder-all and cinder-{whatever} | 16:46 |
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| tbarron | seems to me a direction we'd want to deprecate. | 16:46 |
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| tbarron | proposal was to deprecate over a release. | 16:46 |
| bswartz | DuncanT: if they do that, wouldn't they just get accidental HA? | 16:46 |
| dulek | Definitely it doens't look that cinder-all has any benefits to running every service separately. | 16:46 |
| smcginnis | That might actually be a good way to find out if anyone cares. | 16:46 |
| tbarron | if there's a use case for it, then sure. but is there? | 16:47 |
| smcginnis | If we mark it deprecated and no one says anything, then we're probably safe removing it in O. | 16:47 |
| DuncanT | bswartz: They get craziness if they e.g. edit a config file and don't know what to restart | 16:47 |
| dulek | bswartz: It's more complicated - API will crash due to used port. | 16:47 |
| eharney | i've always assumed use case is for some all-in-one development setup, but that doesn't really exist | 16:47 |
| smcginnis | If someone complains and gives a reason for its existence, then we can un-deprecate it. | 16:47 |
| e0ne | smcginnis: +1 | 16:47 |
| tbarron | eharney: ++ | 16:47 |
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| smcginnis | But only after having been given some justification for it. | 16:47 |
| e0ne | smcginnis+1 | 16:47 |
| eharney | smcginnis: good point | 16:47 |
| tbarron | our all-in-oone is devstack and we don't do it there | 16:47 |
| dulek | Deprecate seems safe. | 16:48 |
| DuncanT | I mostly just wanted to check if anybody knew a use for it off the cuff and hadn't seen the review, so I'm happy enough | 16:48 |
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| tbarron | DuncanT: ++ | 16:48 |
| smcginnis | +1 | 16:48 |
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| bswartz | DuncanT: please link me the review -- we have the same madness in manila | 16:48 |
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| e0ne | bswartz: https://review.openstack.org/302189 | 16:49 |
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| smcginnis | #topic Open Discussion | 16:49 |
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| e0ne | bswartz: it's a "initial for of cinder" problem ;) | 16:49 |
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| dulek | e0ne: "Initial fork out of Nova". I've learned that already when looking through code. :D | 16:50 |
| DuncanT | bswartz: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/302189/ | 16:50 |
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| e0ne | dulek: in manila? | 16:50 |
| bswartz | ty | 16:50 |
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| yuriy_n17 | guys, thanks a lot for discussing on my patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/302189/ | 16:50 |
| bswartz | cinder forked from nova and manila forked from cinder | 16:51 |
| tbarron | it's all forked | 16:51 |
| dulek | e0ne: Oh. Okay, you're right. | 16:51 |
| smcginnis | Cluster forked. | 16:51 |
| e0ne | :) | 16:51 |
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| e0ne | we need fork from manila! | 16:51 |
| smcginnis | I've got one. Any feedback on this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/297140/ | 16:51 |
| e0ne | file-as-a-service | 16:51 |
| dulek | And neutron is forked from nova-network. Oh wait… | 16:51 |
| smcginnis | I've seen some cases where having this check could be useful. | 16:52 |
| smcginnis | If we add it, it would be nice to have in place for new drivers in N. | 16:52 |
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| eharney | smcginnis: i'd like to give feedback on this, will take a look | 16:53 |
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| smcginnis | eharney: Great, thank you. | 16:53 |
| bswartz | smcginnis: I wanted to revisit your earlier questions about deadlines | 16:53 |
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| smcginnis | bswartz: Sure! | 16:53 |
| bswartz | smcginnis: did any drivers or features actually miss the deadlines? | 16:54 |
| bswartz | was anyone thrown out? | 16:54 |
| DuncanT | smcginnis: I've been meaning to take a proper look at this, but at first glance I liked it - it provides much of what I hoped to get from ABCs and... didn't | 16:54 |
| smcginnis | bswartz: I think Nexenta had a couple more they wanted to add. | 16:54 |
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| bswartz | so they're waiting for newton? | 16:54 |
| smcginnis | bswartz: And one other one submitted way late, so they weren't paying any attention. | 16:54 |
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| smcginnis | bswartz: I think so. Could be wrong, but if my memory is right they had something. | 16:55 |
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| bswartz | the main measure of a deadline is what happens when the deadline gets missed -- if it's all orderly then I think it was successful | 16:55 |
| smcginnis | bswartz: No one thrown out. | 16:55 |
| e0ne | one more review request: Remove XML API https://review.openstack.org/231663 - please, help me to not meet rebase hell | 16:55 |
| smcginnis | bswartz: It seemed successful to me. Other than the one out of the blue, it seemed like everyone was aware of it and planned accordingly. | 16:56 |
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| smcginnis | CI's continue to be an issue, so we may have to remove some this cycle. | 16:56 |
| smcginnis | There are a few that haven't been passing for some time now. | 16:56 |
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| scottda | smcginnis: +1 When CI's fail all the time, we ignore them, and then broken stuff gets in like Sheepdog issue for backups. | 16:56 |
| smcginnis | e0ne: Would be nice to get that one through sooner rather than later. | 16:57 |
| smcginnis | scottda: Yeah, that's a bad one. | 16:57 |
| e0ne | smcginnis: I'm agree with you:) | 16:57 |
| smcginnis | OK, thanks everyone. | 16:57 |
| smcginnis | #endmeeting | 16:57 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Apr 6 16:57:48 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:57 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2016/cinder.2016-04-06-16.00.html | 16:57 |
| e0ne | see you next week | 16:57 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2016/cinder.2016-04-06-16.00.txt | 16:57 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2016/cinder.2016-04-06-16.00.log.html | 16:57 |
| geguileo | Thanks | 16:57 |
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| sheel | Thanks | 16:58 |
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| jlvillal | #startmeeting ironic_qa | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Apr 6 17:00:58 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jlvillal. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ironic_qa)" | 17:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ironic_qa' | 17:01 |
| krtaylor | o/ | 17:01 |
| jlvillal | As always the agenda is at: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic-QA | 17:01 |
| jlvillal | #topic announcements | 17:01 |
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| sambetts | o/ Hi all | 17:01 |
| kcalman | o/ | 17:02 |
| jlvillal | #info A lot of testing related things have been proposed for Newton | 17:02 |
| jlvillal | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ironic-newton-summit | 17:02 |
| krtaylor | yes, maybe more than one session worth | 17:02 |
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| jlvillal | #info topics suggested are: grenade every patch, tempest-full against patches, refactoring gate jobs, tempest testing for microversions, better API coverage in tempest, and more... | 17:03 |
| jlvillal | That's all I have for announcements. | 17:03 |
| jlvillal | Anything else? | 17:03 |
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| rpioso | o/ | 17:04 |
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| jlvillal | Okay moving on | 17:04 |
| jlvillal | #topic Grenade testing | 17:04 |
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| jlvillal | #info Patches are in place to get stable/mitaka to same level as had for stable/ironic. | 17:05 |
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| jlvillal | #info Now on par with where jlvillal was before stable/mitaka was released. Still not working. | 17:06 |
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| jlvillal | #info Have to troubleshoot why DHCP is not being setup correctly in dnsmasq. | 17:06 |
| jlvillal | Okay that is all I have | 17:06 |
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| jlvillal | Any questions and/or comments? | 17:06 |
| jlvillal | Okay moving on then. | 17:07 |
| jlvillal | #topic Functional testing | 17:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Functional testing (Meeting topic: ironic_qa)" | 17:07 | |
| jlvillal | Any updates from anyone? | 17:07 |
| jlvillal | I'll assume no updates then. | 17:07 |
| jlvillal | #info No updates | 17:07 |
| jlvillal | #topic 3rd Party CI (krtaylor) | 17:08 |
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| jlvillal | krtaylor: ... :) | 17:08 |
| krtaylor | sure | 17:08 |
| krtaylor | I have finally gotten back to validating third party CI status | 17:08 |
| krtaylor | the etherpad is the latest | 17:08 |
| jlvillal | link? | 17:08 |
| krtaylor | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/IronicCI | 17:08 |
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| krtaylor | but it is really hard to understand where we are | 17:08 |
| krtaylor | so I started a table | 17:09 |
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| krtaylor | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Ironic/Drivers | 17:09 |
| krtaylor | at the bottom for now | 17:09 |
| krtaylor | I want to combine info eventually | 17:09 |
| jlvillal | Any #info to summarize? | 17:09 |
| krtaylor | but for now it is easier to see where we are at | 17:09 |
| krtaylor | its still a WIP | 17:09 |
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| jlvillal | krtaylor: Can you summarize with a #info? For meeting minutes? | 17:10 |
| krtaylor | #info krtaylor working on summary table for 3rd party driver requirements status | 17:10 |
| * jlvillal was too impatient ... | 17:11 | |
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| jlvillal | krtaylor: Anything else? | 17:11 |
| krtaylor | yeah, you need to wait for us slow hunt and peck typists :) | 17:11 |
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| krtaylor | I will also add contact info and/or edit what's there | 17:12 |
| krtaylor | I can also ping those not up to M freeze milestone | 17:12 |
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| * jlvillal is glad he took his "typing" class in high school with real mechanical typewriters. There was also a computer class too. | 17:12 | |
| krtaylor | or get that info to jroll so he can | 17:12 |
| krtaylor | jlvillal, I did too, wish it stuck :) | 17:12 |
| jlvillal | heh | 17:13 |
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| krtaylor | I want to get this stuff organized going into summit | 17:14 |
| krtaylor | but, thats about it for me for CI | 17:14 |
| jlvillal | Thanks! | 17:14 |
| jlvillal | sambetts: Or anyone else have updates on their CI they want to share? | 17:14 |
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| * jlvillal will assume the silence means no | 17:15 | |
| sambetts | jlvillal: nothing new really, just that I'm suffering from a weird MBR issue in my UCSM driver CI which I'm trying to fix but its non-voting right now so we're all good | 17:15 |
| jlvillal | sambetts: thanks and good luck | 17:15 |
| jlvillal | Okay I'll move on then if no objections | 17:16 |
| krtaylor | ++ | 17:16 |
| sambetts | Thanks :D | 17:16 |
| jlvillal | #topic Open Discussion / General QA | 17:16 |
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| jlvillal | Anyone have anything? | 17:16 |
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| jlvillal | Okay. Thanks everyone! | 17:17 |
| krtaylor | should we have a go at priority for topics for QA? | 17:17 |
| krtaylor | for summit? | 17:17 |
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| jlvillal | krtaylor: Sounds like a good idea. | 17:18 |
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| jlvillal | Do you have any ideas? | 17:18 |
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| krtaylor | we can work that in the etherpad - if we feel like it is complete | 17:18 |
| jlvillal | That works for me. | 17:18 |
| jlvillal | In my mind tempest-full is a high priority. | 17:18 |
| krtaylor | agreed | 17:19 |
| jlvillal | As that will make the grenade work easier. | 17:19 |
| krtaylor | yep, my next also | 17:19 |
| krtaylor | functional framework/tests | 17:19 |
| jlvillal | At the moment I have a few hacked patches to get around it that upstream doesn't want to accept. | 17:19 |
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| jlvillal | 1) tempest-full, 2) grenade, 3) functional | 17:20 |
| krtaylor | agreed | 17:20 |
| jlvillal | But making the gate better might be higher than some of those. | 17:20 |
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| krtaylor | but all three are really important | 17:20 |
| jlvillal | But that seems more vague of a goal. | 17:20 |
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| jlvillal | #info Initial priority list for testing for Newton: 1) tempest-full, 2) grenade, 3) functional testing. Subject to change. | 17:21 |
| krtaylor | our test coverage is actually pretty good across all the sub projects for gate, but improving reliability thats another matter | 17:21 |
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| krtaylor | agreed | 17:21 |
| jlvillal | Thanks krtaylor | 17:21 |
| jlvillal | Anything else from anyone? | 17:22 |
| krtaylor | ok, lets table it for another week, we can start an etherpad for QA when we get approval for a session | 17:22 |
| krtaylor | nope | 17:22 |
| jlvillal | Okay. Thanks everyone for your time. | 17:23 |
| jlvillal | See you next week. | 17:23 |
| krtaylor | thanks jlvillal | 17:23 |
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| jlvillal | #endmeeting | 17:23 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Apr 6 17:23:14 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:23 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic_qa/2016/ironic_qa.2016-04-06-17.00.html | 17:23 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic_qa/2016/ironic_qa.2016-04-06-17.00.txt | 17:23 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic_qa/2016/ironic_qa.2016-04-06-17.00.log.html | 17:23 |
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| notmyname | swift meeting time | 21:00 |
| clayg | my favorite! | 21:00 |
| notmyname | #startmeeting swift | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Apr 6 21:00:31 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is notmyname. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: swift)" | 21:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'swift' | 21:00 |
| notmyname | who's here for the swift meeting? | 21:00 |
| dmorita | o/ | 21:00 |
| joeljwright | hey | 21:00 |
| cutforth | hola | 21:00 |
| gmmaha | o/ | 21:00 |
| jrichli | o/ | 21:00 |
| kota_ | hello | 21:00 |
| sgundur | hi | 21:00 |
| tdasilva | hi | 21:01 |
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| siva_krishnan | o/ | 21:01 |
| acoles | here | 21:01 |
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| tsymanczyk | wc | 21:01 |
| ntata | o/ | 21:02 |
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| kota_ | hi | 21:02 |
| notmyname | welcome everyone | 21:02 |
| notmyname | agenda is at | 21:02 |
| notmyname | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Swift | 21:02 |
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| * notmyname wishes the # commands would work mid-line | 21:02 | |
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| notmyname | several interesting things have been proposed on the agenda this week | 21:03 |
| notmyname | #topic rolling upgrade tests | 21:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "rolling upgrade tests (Meeting topic: swift)" | 21:03 | |
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| notmyname | first up, checking in on the rolling upgrade testing | 21:03 |
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| notmyname | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/swift-rolling-upgrade-multinode-testing | 21:03 |
| notmyname | cschwede: are you here? | 21:03 |
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| notmyname | the todo section at the bottom is what's needed, I think | 21:03 |
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| notmyname | acoles: timburke: do you have any other details or info? | 21:04 |
| acoles | notmyname: sorry no, i have been engrossed in feature/crypto stuff this week | 21:04 |
| notmyname | that's ok :-) | 21:04 |
| timburke | over on swift3 stuff, myself | 21:04 |
| notmyname | I haven't seen cschwede around much this week, bus I suspect that's because of the summer time zone. seems like I'm on relatively later in the mornings now | 21:05 |
| ntata | cd | 21:05 |
| notmyname | I'll keep bugging people about this and helping where I can | 21:05 |
| notmyname | although we got a reprieve on the tag thing, we still need the testing to be implemented relatively quickly | 21:06 |
| acoles | I'll try to check in with cschwede tomorrow Europe time | 21:06 |
| notmyname | acoles: thanks | 21:06 |
| notmyname | next up, a quick topic | 21:06 |
| clayg | notmyname: yeah i thought there was a timelimit component - if we're under the gun I might be able to steal some cycles if needed | 21:06 |
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| notmyname | clayg: we were spared this time, with a "we'll check back in a few weeks" vague comemnt | 21:07 |
| notmyname | that's all I know | 21:07 |
| clayg | uh huh | 21:07 |
| notmyname | #topic reverse listings bug follow-up | 21:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "reverse listings bug follow-up (Meeting topic: swift)" | 21:07 | |
| notmyname | in the process of setting up some of this testing, we discovered https://bugs.launchpad.net/swift/+bug/1562083 | 21:07 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1562083 in OpenStack Object Storage (swift) "mid-upgrade clusters can cause versioned write errors" [Medium,Fix released] - Assigned to Tim Burke (1-tim-z) | 21:07 |
| notmyname | and timburke fixed it. yay! it's on master now | 21:07 |
| notmyname | IMO it's a good candidate for a backport | 21:08 |
| acoles | agree | 21:08 |
| notmyname | #topic idea: swift.callback.* namespace in wsgi environment | 21:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "idea: swift.callback.* namespace in wsgi environment (Meeting topic: swift)" | 21:08 | |
| notmyname | this is something tdasilva and acoles were talking about when i got online this morning. kinda interesting, i think | 21:08 |
| notmyname | acoles: tdasilva: can you give a summary? | 21:09 |
| acoles | this came up while reviewing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/237393/25 | 21:09 |
| acoles | patch 237393 | 21:09 |
| timburke | sad patchbot :( | 21:09 |
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| notmyname | ah | 21:09 |
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| notmyname | patch 237393 | 21:10 |
| patchbot | notmyname: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/237393/ - swift (feature/crypto) - Support for http footers - Replication and EC | 21:10 |
| acoles | where we introduce a callback for middleware to get the chance to add footers to a multipart object PUT to backend | 21:10 |
| acoles | hey patchbot! | 21:10 |
| acoles | and tdasilva raised idea of starting to use some uniform naming of things swift puts into the req environ | 21:10 |
| notmyname | specifically the callbacks, right? | 21:11 |
| acoles | so in this case swift.callback.update_footers or similar | 21:11 |
| acoles | notmyname: yes | 21:11 |
| notmyname | what else is there? swift.authorize. others? | 21:11 |
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| tdasilva | yeah, the name itself is not the point, just that we could have something uniform...swift.callback, swift.hook, etc... | 21:12 |
| acoles | the only existing callback i could think of is authorize which we probably need to stick with for 3rd party auth m/ware | 21:12 |
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| acoles | and copy_hook which may go away soon anyway | 21:12 |
| notmyname | may? | 21:12 |
| * tdasilva hopes that it *will* | 21:12 | |
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| acoles | notmyname: its not done til its done ;) | 21:13 |
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| notmyname | :-) | 21:13 |
| tdasilva | true :) | 21:13 |
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| tdasilva | acoles: are you suggesting people should review copy middleware? | 21:13 |
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| notmyname | so the idea is swift.callback.authorize (and probably some migration plan), swift.authorize.update_footers, swift.authorize.do_what_i_mean, and antyhing else goes there | 21:14 |
| * tdasilva is done with shameless plug | 21:14 | |
| acoles | tdasilva: subtlely yes | 21:14 |
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| acoles | notmyname: yes but less of the authorize ;) | 21:14 |
| tdasilva | lol | 21:14 |
| tdasilva | yes | 21:14 |
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| acoles | question is whether it has value/merit? IDK cos right now there's so few examples | 21:15 |
| notmyname | so, not to be argumentative, but we've got 2 examples of callbacks right now, and one won't use this new thing. so why do we want to have a new convention for it? | 21:15 |
| clayg | notmyname: I see very little value in trying to change the name of the authorize callback | 21:16 |
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| clayg | notmyname: it's one of those backwards compat crufts that's a bit out of our control - easier to just live with the old and have a better plan for the moving forward IMHO | 21:16 |
| notmyname | clayg: do you think this idea is reasonable going forward? | 21:16 |
| acoles | agree, i think changing authorize is just making unnecessary work | 21:17 |
| notmyname | ok. I'm not trying to argue that at all. | 21:17 |
| jrichli | btw, technically there is a fetch_keys callback introduced in crypto too | 21:17 |
| acoles | jrichli: right! i'd missed that, so we have two new examples | 21:18 |
| clayg | notmyname: if we're going to change the interface for authorize we should do it for something functional - like lots of auth middleware have to do these silly closures of env data because of make_sub_request - last time I thought about it; i seem to recall thinking the callback should have some better args - something more contextextual about who & what - something like policy | 21:18 |
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| notmyname | acoles: jrichli: that's twice as many as before! ;-) | 21:19 |
| notmyname | I think having a callback namespace (swift.callback.*) is fine. seems like something future me would appreciate | 21:19 |
| notmyname | and since the only 2 examples we have right now are part of the crypto branch, then there's not yet any worries about migrations | 21:20 |
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| clayg | notmyname: yeah having all new call backs under common name is a start - documentation is next - maintainace is forever :'( | 21:20 |
| notmyname | so it's more of a "this seems reasonable so let's do it" | 21:20 |
| notmyname | clayg: you told me yesterday "tests are the hard part". I think "docs are the hardest part" should be added there :-) | 21:20 |
| clayg | notmyname: nice | 21:20 |
| clayg | code is easy, tests are hard, words are near impossible | 21:21 |
| notmyname | lol | 21:21 |
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| notmyname | anyone else have somethign to share about a swift.callback.* convention in the wsgi environment? | 21:21 |
| tdasilva | sounds like none of you have done GUI work | 21:21 |
| clayg | tdasilva: rofl! | 21:21 |
| joeljwright | :D | 21:21 |
| acoles | tdasilva: thank goodness! lol | 21:22 |
| notmyname | I thought we were talking about reality ;-) | 21:22 |
| notmyname | "...pixels are just right out" | 21:22 |
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| notmyname | so does the callback naming cause any major waves for the crypto branch at this point? | 21:22 |
| tdasilva | notmyname: it sounds like crypto is a good place to start | 21:23 |
| clayg | FWIW i think callbacks are an annoying interface to document and maintain - you put this here and the code will call it ... right ... *here* | 21:23 |
| clayg | I think sometimes it's obviously the simplest problem to address the challange at hand - but it doesn't always scale | 21:23 |
| jrichli | no major waves really: just a patch to replace the strings being used now | 21:23 |
| clayg | so this is me having no better ideas :'( | 21:23 |
| clayg | DO IT! | 21:23 |
| acoles | notmyname: ok I/we will update our callback names accordingly | 21:23 |
| notmyname | clayg: meh. but it's probably better than other sort of IPC like queues and shared memory? | 21:23 |
| notmyname | ok, let's move on then | 21:24 |
| notmyname | #topic copy middleware patch | 21:24 |
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| notmyname | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/156923/ | 21:24 |
| patchbot | notmyname: patch 156923 - swift - Refactor server side copy as middleware | 21:24 |
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| notmyname | I should have added this to the agenda, but thanks for bringing it up tdasilva | 21:24 |
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| tdasilva | sneaky | 21:24 |
| notmyname | this is by far the most heavily starred patch in the swift community, for what that's worth. and beyond simplifying some existing code, it's critical for the crypto work | 21:25 |
| notmyname | in other words, it's pretty much the number one thing that needs to get done | 21:25 |
| jrichli | patch 260179 first though | 21:25 |
| patchbot | jrichli: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/260179/ - swift - decouple versioned writes from COPY | 21:25 |
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| clayg | I haven't reviewed it - I might have time around Friday - if we don't already have reviewers on deck? | 21:26 |
| notmyname | what's the status for reviews? | 21:26 |
| tdasilva | there's been some reviews from kota_, torgomatic, Hisashi | 21:26 |
| notmyname | kota_: thanks for reviewing this one | 21:26 |
| acoles | kota_: has done some reviews on 260179, thanks kota | 21:26 |
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| kota_ | yup, mostly I've been in final straight to add +2 I think. | 21:27 |
| kota_ | I'm in testing in my lab env. | 21:27 |
| tdasilva | thanks kota_ | 21:27 |
| clayg | are any swift-core recused? tdasilva & acoles ? Can we let them have a vote? | 21:27 |
| notmyname | tdasilva: you're effectively the owner on both of these | 21:27 |
| tdasilva | yeah, i can't vote | 21:27 |
| notmyname | what's your sense of where it is? what do you need? | 21:27 |
| kota_ | maybe I can make comments (or just +2) in this week. | 21:27 |
| tdasilva | i think it's good to go! | 21:28 |
| timburke | i know i need to leave a comment; SLO copies can fail under some circumstances. but maybe we don't care | 21:28 |
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| clayg | can patch 156923 land without patch 260179 - or are they effectively a chain? | 21:28 |
| patchbot | clayg: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/156923/ - swift - Refactor server side copy as middleware | 21:28 |
| patchbot | clayg: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/260179/ - swift - decouple versioned writes from COPY | 21:28 |
| tdasilva | timburke: i'm curious | 21:28 |
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| tdasilva | clayg: they are a chain | 21:28 |
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| notmyname | tdasilva: you'll have to wait for is review comment ;-) | 21:29 |
| notmyname | *his | 21:29 |
| clayg | we might have to -2 the head of the chain head then? at least we've done that in the past when breaking up changesets that need to land together | 21:29 |
| notmyname | is it bad if the first lands without the second? | 21:30 |
| notmyname | if so, I agree | 21:30 |
| acoles | i think the first can land on its own | 21:30 |
| acoles | it still supports the COPY verb | 21:30 |
| tdasilva | decouple can land on its own | 21:30 |
| acoles | in fact once the second lands the COPY verb needs to be taken out of the decouple one IIRC | 21:31 |
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| notmyname | ok | 21:31 |
| notmyname | therefore it doesn't need a -2 plug | 21:32 |
| clayg | notmyname: full ack | 21:32 |
| acoles | tdasilva: does the middleware patch remove COPY verb handling from versioned writes? | 21:32 |
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| notmyname | so if you're name is not tdasilva, then please review patch 260179 followed by patch 156923 | 21:32 |
| patchbot | notmyname: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/260179/ - swift - decouple versioned writes from COPY | 21:32 |
| patchbot | notmyname: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/156923/ - swift - Refactor server side copy as middleware | 21:32 |
| tdasilva | acoles: no, COPY verb gets removed in patch 260179 | 21:32 |
| patchbot | tdasilva: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/260179/ - swift - decouple versioned writes from COPY | 21:32 |
| clayg | oh i had the chain backwards? gd new gerrit ui | 21:33 |
| notmyname | clayg: I was afraid I got it backwards | 21:34 |
| tdasilva | clayg: sorry if I confused people, but basically copy middleware depends on decouple versioned writes from COPY | 21:34 |
| acoles | tdasilva: yes versioned writes won't issue COPY requests but still expects to receive COPY requests I think | 21:34 |
| tdasilva | acoles: only because it will land first... | 21:35 |
| acoles | tdasilva: line 501 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/260179/16/swift/common/middleware/versioned_writes.py | 21:35 |
| patchbot | acoles: patch 260179 - swift - decouple versioned writes from COPY | 21:35 |
| clayg | acoles: tdasilva: that acctually makes pleanty of sense | 21:35 |
| acoles | tdasilva: yep, its cool, | 21:35 |
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| tdasilva | acoles: once copy middleware lands, that code becomes useless, so we can remove it | 21:36 |
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| acoles | notmyname: clayg: IIRC I got to point where I didn't feel I should +2 either of those patches cos I got involved | 21:37 |
| * cschwede arrives late to the party, sorry | 21:37 | |
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| acoles | tdasilva: yes thats what I was thinking | 21:37 |
| kota_ | that means patch 260179 still expects incomming COPY but doesn't use COPY in itself. | 21:37 |
| patchbot | kota_: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/260179/ - swift - decouple versioned writes from COPY | 21:37 |
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| kota_ | in my undestunding. | 21:37 |
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| clayg | tdasilva: oh oh oh *third* patch! maybe a blocked series would be better | 21:37 |
| notmyname | tdasilva: can you get this sort of info (the chain, what's removed where, and what happens after) into https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Swift/PriorityReviews? | 21:37 |
| notmyname | tdasilva: I'll be happy to help, if you need it | 21:38 |
| notmyname | tdasilva: I think having it written out there will help us all know first this, then that, etc | 21:38 |
| tdasilva | notmyname: honestly, i'd prefer if people just focused on this two patches...this 3rd one that acoles and I are talking about is not super important | 21:38 |
| clayg | ok, so al & thiago are out - maybe if tim can get his +2 on it in the next couple of days I can sweep the +A? | 21:38 |
| tdasilva | so i don't want to confuse people | 21:38 |
| clayg | oh - or Kota! | 21:38 |
| acoles | tdasilva: or we add that to 156923 - i.e. remove COPY handling from versioned writes at same time COPY mware lands | 21:39 |
| clayg | tdasilva: my thinking was more about if you have to load it all in your head to understand what's going on - and we're doing weird stuff to keep backwards compat during a transistion that only last from landing one patch to the next - a chain is a reasonable approach | 21:39 |
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| notmyname | yeah, I think we've got the bandwidth. with acoles and tdasilva writing, kota_ and timburke and torgomatic who have looked. maybe getting clayg myself or cschwede to take a look this week | 21:39 |
| notmyname | tdasilva: yeah, I agree about staying focused | 21:40 |
| clayg | cschwede: will be busy with upgrade tests :P | 21:40 |
| notmyname | :-) | 21:40 |
| clayg | is sam still sick? | 21:40 |
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| acoles | tdasilva and i may sum our +1's ;) | 21:40 |
| notmyname | I'm guessing so. haven't seen him today | 21:40 |
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| tdasilva | lol | 21:40 |
| cschwede | clayg: exactly | 21:40 |
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| notmyname | anythign else we need to cover on this topic in the meeting? | 21:41 |
| clayg | tdasilva: you think the rolling upgrade impact is covered? | 21:41 |
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| tdasilva | clayg: mmm...now you got me | 21:42 |
| clayg | tdasilva: commit message mentioned snarfing post_as_copy from proxy-app section - which sounded pretty reasonable | 21:42 |
| tdasilva | clayg: right | 21:42 |
| tdasilva | clayg: very quickly thinking about it, I don't think rolling upgrade would be an issue | 21:43 |
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| clayg | i bet it's going to be great - can't wait to look at it! | 21:44 |
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| notmyname | ok, let's move on | 21:45 |
| notmyname | #topic summit prep status | 21:45 |
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| notmyname | mostly just a reminder | 21:46 |
| notmyname | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/swift-newton-summit-planning | 21:46 |
| clayg | tdasilva: acoles: if kota_ or timburke are feeling particuarlly strong about it i'm ok with you one or either of you guys +A'ing - since we're at the start of the cycle - just IMHO | 21:46 |
| notmyname | fill that out. add your ideas | 21:46 |
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| acoles | clayg: ack | 21:46 |
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| notmyname | and if you are giving a conference talk, please add it in the "conflicts" section | 21:46 |
| notmyname | there's some good stuff there, but we've got room for more topics, i think | 21:47 |
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| notmyname | starting next week, I'll be organizing them into a schedule and pushign that to the scheduling system | 21:47 |
| clayg | notmyname: hrou told me he's short on round tuits for sysmlinks work - and matt's still hung out to dry on container sharding ... | 21:47 |
| clayg | ... I'm not sure when/how to deal with "XYZ will save us" only works out if we have infinite patience and people don't have lives/jobs | 21:48 |
| notmyname | clayg: there's nothing (yet) on that etherpad about symlinks. if we have another champion, it should definitely be added | 21:48 |
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| notmyname | "But don't try to force dates or time frames; even if everyone is enthusiastic about a direction, it is unlikely that people can guarantee full-time effort for long enough to finish by a chosen date." | 21:48 |
| notmyname | from the "lessons Learned" on http://www.aosabook.org/en/gdb.html | 21:49 |
| clayg | notmyname: yeah that's my point - i don't think it has a champion - timburke wants it in some nebulous future of amazing super duper data protection wonderment - and I think tiering was counting on it? | 21:49 |
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| kota_ | clayg: yeah | 21:49 |
| clayg | notmyname: well i guess ... hrmm ... you know maybe I need to default to your judgement | 21:50 |
| clayg | I'm thinking "hey no one is working on this we need to talk about that!" - maybe you're thinking "yeah, if someone is working on it - let's talk about it!" | 21:50 |
| tdasilva | at one point I wanted to raise my hand to work on that, but now I'm busy with crypto...maybe after crypto?? | 21:51 |
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| notmyname | it should be added to the etherpad. I don't want to overlook it when figuring out the schedule, but "someone who's working on it is present" is a heavy weighting factor in scheduling | 21:51 |
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| hrou | Hey All, yea I'd love for symlink to make some progress though : ) - I think there are enough folks who care (maybe cared is the right tense as I haven't checked in lately) | 21:51 |
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| notmyname | hrou: yeah, I think we all want it to make progress. just not sure about actual ability to pound out code | 21:52 |
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| hrou | notmyname, yea I think maybe what I could do to help is to put together a bit of status; There was an etherpad floating around a while back but its a bit of date | 21:53 |
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| hrou | it really comes back to the handling of POST for fast-post (now default yey). | 21:53 |
| notmyname | hrou: ok, thanks | 21:53 |
| notmyname | I added a placeholder to the bottom of https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/swift-newton-summit-planning | 21:53 |
| hrou | sure its my pleasure, I'd love to see it land one day. | 21:53 |
| clayg | hrou: I don't think we quite went as far as changing the default FWIW | 21:53 |
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| hrou | Thanks! | 21:53 |
| clayg | hrou: thank you! | 21:54 |
| notmyname | hrou: any details/links you can throw in there would be good | 21:54 |
| notmyname | ok, last topic | 21:54 |
| hrou | clayg, meh one can hope ;) I was being optimistic. But yea we def want it working with both | 21:54 |
| notmyname | #topic swiftclient docs | 21:54 |
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| notmyname | joeljwright: what's up here? | 21:54 |
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| notmyname | I hear you've been making great progress! | 21:54 |
| joeljwright | well, we've made some really good progress | 21:54 |
| joeljwright | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/288566/6 | 21:54 |
| patchbot | joeljwright: patch 288566 - python-swiftclient - WIP: This patch adds a new doc structure for swift... | 21:54 |
| joeljwright | service-api.rst is now 'complete' | 21:55 |
| joeljwright | and has a full complement of examples | 21:55 |
| clayg | notmyname: I was *amazed* at what's there now - phenominal work - so many KUDOS to the people working on that | 21:55 |
| joeljwright | cli.rst just needs examples | 21:55 |
| joeljwright | connection-api.rst needs auth and examples | 21:55 |
| joeljwright | I'm still working on them | 21:55 |
| joeljwright | but would love people to start reviewing | 21:55 |
| notmyname | yeah, that looks great | 21:56 |
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| joeljwright | suggestions/comments are most welcome | 21:56 |
| notmyname | quick question, do you want to keep this all as one big chunk like this? or can/should it be split to land in smaller pieces? | 21:56 |
| acoles | joeljwright: can the sections that are complete be broken out into a review that is ready to merge? | 21:56 |
| clayg | joeljwright: do you really need the feedback or just the merges? | 21:56 |
| joeljwright | I think we can get this one ready soon enough to land in one piece | 21:56 |
| joeljwright | suggestions will probably have to be follow on | 21:56 |
| clayg | joeljwright: we're going from 0 to %^&Uing awesome! How is that not a win? I'll go +A some stuff right now. | 21:56 |
| notmyname | joeljwright: reall? that's great. when are you expecting it to be done, based on current progress? | 21:57 |
| joeljwright | only the listed reviewers have really read it | 21:57 |
| clayg | joeljwright: i know initially you guys were debating structure - but I *love* how things ended up layed out | 21:57 |
| joeljwright | so it'd be good to get eyes on it | 21:57 |
| clayg | you people are smart - asettle is owed beers for sure | 21:57 |
| joeljwright | clayg: thanks :) | 21:57 |
| joeljwright | definitely | 21:57 |
| * asettle appears | 21:57 | |
| asettle | Ya what? | 21:57 |
| notmyname | I'll definitely give this patch set a look | 21:57 |
| joeljwright | once she finally explained what 'active voice' meant | 21:57 |
| joeljwright | :) | 21:57 |
| notmyname | asettle: the client docs patchset is looking great. thanks for your help | 21:58 |
| joeljwright | notmyname: thanks | 21:58 |
| acoles | asettle: you have highlights set for "beer"? ;p | 21:58 |
| notmyname | lol | 21:58 |
| asettle | acoles: you know it. | 21:58 |
| asettle | I appear \o/ | 21:58 |
| clayg | rofl | 21:58 |
| asettle | I'm a lurker. Good meeting guys. | 21:58 |
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| notmyname | joeljwright: anything else on these docs? | 21:59 |
| joeljwright | I would like help with 'interesting' examples for the connection api if possible | 21:59 |
| notmyname | ok | 21:59 |
| joeljwright | if not interesting, then at least useful | 21:59 |
| notmyname | which file is that in? | 21:59 |
| tdasilva | acoles: foster | 21:59 |
| joeljwright | but that's it | 21:59 |
| timburke | joeljwright: they can get even more interesting after https://review.openstack.org/#/c/298968/ lands :) | 21:59 |
| joeljwright | client-api.rst | 21:59 |
| patchbot | timburke: patch 298968 - python-swiftclient - Adding keystoneauth sessions support | 21:59 |
| notmyname | joeljwright: ok | 22:00 |
| joeljwright | yeah, that will be interesting | 22:00 |
| notmyname | bah, look at the time | 22:00 |
| notmyname | #topic other | 22:00 |
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| notmyname | I'll be in san antonio early next week with the intel/rackspace people | 22:00 |
| notmyname | flying out next wednesday, so if travel plans conflict with the meeting, I'll update. for now, the meeting is on | 22:00 |
| notmyname | s/out/home/ | 22:01 |
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| notmyname | thanks for coming, everyone. thanks for working on swift | 22:01 |
| notmyname | #endmeeting | 22:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "npm lint jobs are failing due to a problem with npm registry. The problem is under investigation, and we will update once the issue is solved." | 22:01 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Apr 6 22:01:26 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2016/swift.2016-04-06-21.00.html | 22:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2016/swift.2016-04-06-21.00.txt | 22:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2016/swift.2016-04-06-21.00.log.html | 22:01 |
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