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| aspiers | morning | 09:00 |
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| _gryf | hi | 09:01 |
| ddeja | hello | 09:01 |
| bandini | mornin' | 09:01 |
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| aspiers | any NTT guys today? | 09:02 |
| samP | yes | 09:02 |
| samP | Hi | 09:02 |
| aspiers | cool, new people :) | 09:02 |
| samP | This is sampath | 09:02 |
| aspiers | welcome bandini and samP | 09:02 |
| bandini | hi aspiers, samP | 09:02 |
| samP | thx | 09:02 |
| aspiers | I guess we should start | 09:03 |
| aspiers | #startmeeting ha | 09:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Feb 29 09:03:10 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is aspiers. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 09:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ha)" | 09:03 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ha' | 09:03 |
| aspiers | #topic introductions | 09:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "introductions (Meeting topic: ha)" | 09:03 | |
| aspiers | as we have a couple of new people, maybe we should do quick introductions | 09:03 |
| aspiers | bandini, samP: you wanna quickly introduce yourselves? | 09:03 |
| bandini | sure thing | 09:03 |
| aspiers | or if you prefer you can lurk ;-) | 09:04 |
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| aspiers | actually maybe we all should, for your benefits | 09:04 |
| bandini | my name is Michele Baldessari, I live in the alps and I recently joined RH's HA team. Working on Openstack/HA architecture/installer/bugs whatnot | 09:04 |
| bandini | I will come to Austin, so hopefully I will meet some of you ;) | 09:05 |
| samP | My name is Sampath and I am working with masa, and kazu at tokyo. mainly fixing masakari now | 09:05 |
| aspiers | I'm Adam Spiers, working for SUSE on OpenStack (mainly HA) from London, and I usually moderate this session, and also maintain the openstack-resource-agents project | 09:05 |
| beekhof | hey guys | 09:05 |
| aspiers | hi beekhof :) | 09:05 |
| bandini | oh and beekhof is my tech lead ;) | 09:05 |
| aspiers | ahah | 09:05 |
| * bandini waves | 09:05 | |
| aspiers | cool | 09:05 |
| beekhof | this bandini guy sounds sketchy, i suggest we stear clear of him | 09:05 |
| aspiers | great to have you here | 09:05 |
| aspiers | haha :) | 09:05 |
| bandini | lol, that's why you're the lead, clear ;) | 09:06 |
| bandini | *clearly* | 09:06 |
| aspiers | that beekhof guy is *definitely* sketchy ;-) | 09:06 |
| beekhof | doesn't even own any lego sets | 09:06 |
| bandini | rotfl | 09:06 |
| ddeja | I'm Dawid Deja, Wworking for Intel on Openstack from Poland, mainly focusing on instances HA right now | 09:06 |
| aspiers | :) | 09:06 |
| * _gryf is wondering what is happening… | 09:07 | |
| beekhof | hazing the new guy | 09:07 |
| aspiers | _gryf: we're doing introductions for the new people | 09:07 |
| _gryf | anyway, my name is Roman Dobosz, working at Intel, Gdańsk, Polan. I use to work closely on the tenants HA automation | 09:08 |
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| aspiers | #info two first-timers to the meeting: bandini (RH) and samP (NTT) | 09:08 |
| _gryf | aspiers, no no, the other things ;P | 09:08 |
| aspiers | oh :) | 09:08 |
| aspiers | ok | 09:08 |
| aspiers | #topic Current status (progress, issues, roadblocks, further plans) | 09:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Current status (progress, issues, roadblocks, further plans) (Meeting topic: ha)" | 09:09 | |
| aspiers | quick update from my side | 09:09 |
| aspiers | I've been doing some reviews on code submitted to openstack-resource-agents by Norbert Illes | 09:09 |
| aspiers | we're working towards getting bashate passing | 09:09 |
| aspiers | so we can add some basic CI to the repo | 09:10 |
| aspiers | #info work proceeding on https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-resource-agents/+bug/1550203 | 09:10 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1550203 in openstack-resource-agents "Bashate violations in OCF scripts" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Norbert Illes (nilles) | 09:10 |
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| aspiers | also, on Thursday I crashed Fuel's weekly team IRC meeting | 09:10 |
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| aspiers | and asked them about their OCF RA forks | 09:10 |
| aspiers | which started sometime in 2013, I think | 09:11 |
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| aspiers | Basically I asked if they would be interested in reconverging with this new upstream project, and they seemed enthusiastic | 09:11 |
| aspiers | #action aspiers to send an email to openstack-dev about reconvergence of Fuel RAs | 09:11 |
| beekhof | i saw that meeting go past | 09:11 |
| aspiers | we need to form a working group and arrange a meeting | 09:12 |
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| bandini | that is something I am also interested in | 09:12 |
| aspiers | bandini: great! | 09:12 |
| beekhof | i tried to get their rabbit agent to converge, but i dont think it went anywhere | 09:12 |
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| aspiers | ah, well luckily for me, the rabbit RA is out of scope ;-) | 09:12 |
| aspiers | since it's not purely openstack-related | 09:12 |
| aspiers | although that's slightly sad to hear | 09:13 |
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| aspiers | also you RH guys should check recent changes upstream to Nova{Compute,Evacuate} | 09:13 |
| bandini | beekhof: I thought I saw a moderately recent mail from bogdan about rabbitmq RA..I need to dig it up again | 09:13 |
| aspiers | my colleague Vincent Untz made a bunch of fixes for our next release which might help you | 09:13 |
| beekhof | probably not many parallels to draw from that experience. the pure openstack agents are significantly simpier | 09:13 |
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| aspiers | beekhof: I hope you're right | 09:14 |
| beekhof | NovaCompute is gone from ours | 09:14 |
| aspiers | I'm also very happy to see that ... | 09:14 |
| aspiers | #info http://bugs.clusterlabs.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5269 has been fixed | 09:15 |
| openstack | bugs.clusterlabs.org bug 5269 in Core "DoS: valid authkey should be required for takeover of a Pacemaker remote" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] - Assigned to ygao | 09:15 |
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| beekhof | the wait logic is now in a more consistently named agent and we use systemd for starting the compute process | 09:15 |
| aspiers | beekhof: oh? perhaps you can give a status report and briefly summarise? | 09:15 |
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| beekhof | there were issues starting nova-compute from anywhere other than systemd | 09:16 |
| aspiers | beekhof: ok. so you renamed NovaEvacuate to nova-evacuate or something? | 09:16 |
| beekhof | something to do with the way pacemaker does fork+exec | 09:16 |
| beekhof | no, NovaCompute -> nova-compute-wait + systemd:openstack-nova-compute | 09:16 |
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| beekhof | so instead of fighting it, we just switched to systemd | 09:17 |
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| aspiers | hmm | 09:18 |
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| aspiers | worth pushing upstream? | 09:18 |
| beekhof | yes | 09:18 |
| aspiers | ok | 09:18 |
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| aspiers | can you or bandini take an AI to kick that process off?? | 09:19 |
| beekhof | for that start+stop and used OCF for the "wait for evacuations to complete ebfore starting nova | 09:19 |
| beekhof | me | 09:19 |
| aspiers | interested to see how that works | 09:19 |
| beekhof | its not complex | 09:19 |
| aspiers | that's good ;-) | 09:19 |
| beekhof | #action beekhof to upstream the decomposed NovaCompute agent | 09:20 |
| aspiers | #info RH have split NovaCompute into nova-compute-wait + systemd:openstack-nova-compute | 09:20 |
| aspiers | great, thanks! | 09:20 |
| aspiers | ok. bandini, too early for you to have anything to report? | 09:20 |
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| bandini | aspiers: yeah, I guess so | 09:21 |
| aspiers | no problem | 09:21 |
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| aspiers | _gryf? | 09:21 |
| _gryf | i've been involved in other tasks recently | 09:21 |
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| _gryf | so nothing to report | 09:22 |
| aspiers | ok | 09:22 |
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| aspiers | ddeja? | 09:22 |
| ddeja | I have finished working on auto-evacuate Pacemaker agent for mistral https://github.com/gryf/mistral-evacuate/blob/master/fence_evacuate.py | 09:22 |
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| aspiers | cool! | 09:22 |
| ddeja | so I can say that PoC stage is finished | 09:22 |
| aspiers | awesome :) | 09:23 |
| aspiers | #info Mistral PoC has been completed | 09:23 |
| aspiers | will there be any kind of demo to share? | 09:23 |
| beekhof | that would be good | 09:23 |
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| ddeja | I can prepare one, but it's hard for me to imagine, how it should look like.. | 09:24 |
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| beekhof | maybe we can interrupt the regular schedule to have a demo-off between mistral and masakari | 09:24 |
| aspiers | lol | 09:24 |
| beekhof | next week i mean | 09:24 |
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| aspiers | demos are welcome in my book | 09:25 |
| aspiers | although I don't think they need to be done as a competition ;-) | 09:25 |
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| aspiers | ddeja: maybe have a think, and let us know if you have any ideas | 09:25 |
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| aspiers | ddeja: even a 3 min youtube video would be great | 09:25 |
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| ddeja | aspiers: ok | 09:26 |
| aspiers | thanks! | 09:26 |
| beekhof | well at some point we need to decide which approach to throw our collective weight behind | 09:26 |
| aspiers | #action ddeja will have a think if there's an easy way to do demos | 09:26 |
| beekhof | maybe austin is a good time for that | 09:26 |
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| aspiers | beekhof: agreed, and yeah we can definitely discuss more in Austin | 09:26 |
| ddeja | btw. I will not do much work this week, since I'm on medical leave | 09:26 |
| aspiers | ddeja: ok. hope you're alright! | 09:26 |
| aspiers | samP: you want to report anything? it's optional ;-) | 09:27 |
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| samP | still workin on masakari, sqlalchemy and some patches for masakari to work with centos | 09:27 |
| * beekhof has to run, i'll read the scrollback | 09:27 | |
| aspiers | cya beekhof, thanks for joining! | 09:27 |
| aspiers | beekhof, bandini: check for recent changes to NovaEvacuate, I think there have been some you could use | 09:28 |
| bandini | aspiers: ack, thanks | 09:28 |
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| aspiers | samP: sounds good | 09:28 |
| samP | hopefully I can finish them before next meeting | 09:29 |
| aspiers | cool | 09:29 |
| aspiers | ok, I think we're done with status updates? | 09:29 |
| aspiers | anyone have any other topics they wanna raise? | 09:29 |
| aspiers | I think we should talk about Austin briefly | 09:29 |
| aspiers | hopefully most of us will be there | 09:29 |
| * bandini nods | 09:29 | |
| aspiers | I'm still waiting for confirmation, but if any of my talks get accepted I'm definitely going | 09:30 |
| aspiers | #topic Austin summit | 09:30 |
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| _gryf | aspiers, is there any session reserved for ha topics? | 09:30 |
| aspiers | I think we should aim to get a more formal platform for HA BoF design sessions | 09:30 |
| aspiers | _gryf: not that I'm aware of | 09:30 |
| _gryf | mhm | 09:30 |
| aspiers | it's been a complaint of mine for every single summit since San Diego | 09:31 |
| aspiers | there was one in San Francisco (Folsom) but that's the last one I can remember | 09:31 |
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| _gryf | it should be some kind of procedure to have a reservation and time on the schedule I think | 09:32 |
| aspiers | any opinions on whether we should aim forr multiple design sessions? | 09:32 |
| aspiers | yeah | 09:32 |
| aspiers | e.g. we could ask the nova guys for a session on compute HA | 09:32 |
| aspiers | and maybe one for neutron too | 09:32 |
| aspiers | could even have a cross-project one | 09:32 |
| aspiers | for topics like reconnections in oslodb | 09:32 |
| _gryf | aspiers, that's what i thinking as well - to have a cross-project session | 09:33 |
| aspiers | ok, I'll raise on openstack-dev@ and cc thingee (Mike Perez, cross-project guy) | 09:33 |
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| _gryf | +1 | 09:34 |
| bandini | aspiers: sounds like a plan | 09:34 |
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| aspiers | we should definitely have demos of masakari and mistral PoC in Austin too :) | 09:34 |
| _gryf | aspiers, you mean - live? | 09:34 |
| _gryf | :> | 09:34 |
| aspiers | sure! :) | 09:35 |
| _gryf | oh my :) | 09:35 |
| aspiers | don't worry it's the design summit, so noone will expect demos to work ;-) | 09:35 |
| aspiers | I don't even expect demos in the keynote sessions to work ;-) | 09:35 |
| bandini | lol | 09:35 |
| _gryf | I'm not sure if I'm going to be in Austin - decission is not taken yet by my boss (this is also true for ddeja) | 09:35 |
| aspiers | same here | 09:36 |
| ddeja | yup | 09:36 |
| aspiers | travel budget, blah blah :( | 09:36 |
| _gryf | right. | 09:36 |
| aspiers | but if I organise some design sessions then it's a lot easier ;-) | 09:36 |
| _gryf | heh :) | 09:36 |
| aspiers | ok, anything else to discuss on Austin? | 09:36 |
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| * _gryf have nothing than that. | 09:38 | |
| bandini | not that I can think of now | 09:38 |
| aspiers | #topic AOB (Any Other Business) | 09:38 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "AOB (Any Other Business) (Meeting topic: ha)" | 09:38 | |
| aspiers | the floor is open :) anything else? | 09:38 |
| aspiers | BTW openstack-ha-guide project seems very active, I guess more reviewers are always welcome there | 09:39 |
| bandini | yes, I try to review there from time to time | 09:40 |
| aspiers | cool | 09:40 |
| aspiers | ok, if nothing else we can finish early. going once ... | 09:41 |
| aspiers | going twice ... | 09:41 |
| aspiers | sold! thanks all for coming, and hope to see you next week :) | 09:41 |
| _gryf | ok, thanks! | 09:41 |
| samP | Thx... | 09:42 |
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| bandini | thanks! | 09:42 |
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| aspiers | #endmeeting | 09:42 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 09:42 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Feb 29 09:42:22 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 09:42 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ha/2016/ha.2016-02-29-09.03.html | 09:42 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ha/2016/ha.2016-02-29-09.03.txt | 09:42 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ha/2016/ha.2016-02-29-09.03.log.html | 09:42 |
| ddeja | bye | 09:42 |
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| ikhudoshyn | #startmeeting Rally | 14:05 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Feb 29 14:05:50 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ikhudoshyn. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:05 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Rally)" | 14:05 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'rally' | 14:05 |
| ikhudoshyn | hi everybody | 14:06 |
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| redixin | sup | 14:06 |
| amaretskiy | hi | 14:06 |
| andreykurilin | o/ | 14:07 |
| rvasilets | o/ | 14:07 |
| ikhudoshyn | we got couple of topics in the agenda | 14:07 |
| ikhudoshyn | the first is from Chris | 14:08 |
| ikhudoshyn | stpierre, around? | 14:08 |
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| ikhudoshyn | my irc client autocompletion tels that he's not | 14:09 |
| ikhudoshyn | so let's start with the 2nd | 14:09 |
| ikhudoshyn | [amaretskiy] Let's discuss Web UI for trends report | 14:09 |
| ikhudoshyn | http://logs.openstack.org/21/276721/4/check/gate-rally-dsvm-rally/0425a53/rally-plot/trends.html.gz | 14:09 |
| ikhudoshyn | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/276721/ | 14:10 |
| ikhudoshyn | #topic [amaretskiy] Let's discuss Web UI for trends report | 14:10 |
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| ikhudoshyn | amaretskiy: pls start | 14:10 |
| amaretskiy | we have new upcomign report "trends" | 14:10 |
| amaretskiy | this report will show trends for many tasks runs | 14:11 |
| amaretskiy | so we have a WIP UI http://logs.openstack.org/21/276721/4/check/gate-rally-dsvm-rally/0425a53/rally-plot/trends.html.gz | 14:11 |
| amaretskiy | I would like to ask feedback, proposals, ideas about this report | 14:11 |
| amaretskiy | the main questions are: | 14:12 |
| amaretskiy | 1. is proposed report OK? | 14:12 |
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| amaretskiy | 2. Main table "Trends overview" - are columns OK? What to add? | 14:12 |
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| ikhudoshyn | amaretskiy: there was a question about scenarios that present in only one task | 14:13 |
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| ikhudoshyn | so they don't get into the report | 14:13 |
| amaretskiy | 3. There is a good proposal from ikhudoshyn regarding missed runs (will explain later in details) - I believe we discuaa it here and confirm | 14:13 |
| ikhudoshyn | did you have a chance to think on it and/or discuss w/Bdfl | 14:14 |
| ikhudoshyn | oops_) | 14:14 |
| amaretskiy | so, let's start with 1) is proposed report OK in general? Maybe some parts should be removed/changed? | 14:14 |
| ikhudoshyn | the report looks great for me) | 14:14 |
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| ikhudoshyn | (except TBD) | 14:15 |
| amaretskiy | yes, TBD is just to ask ideas :) | 14:15 |
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| rvasilets | I'd like to for atomic drop down menu http://logs.openstack.org/21/276721/4/check/gate-rally-dsvm-rally/0425a53/rally-plot/trends.html.gz#/Dummy.dummy_random_atomic-2/atomic | 14:16 |
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| rvasilets | and possibly with some search | 14:16 |
| amaretskiy | okay, let's discuss dropdown for atomics | 14:16 |
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| amaretskiy | we do not have a lot of atomics, probably search is not required :) | 14:17 |
| ikhudoshyn | ctrl-f is good enough for me | 14:17 |
| boris-42 | hi everydbody | 14:17 |
| ikhudoshyn | at least for now | 14:17 |
| ikhudoshyn | hi boris-42 | 14:17 |
| boris-42 | amaretskiy: you are talking about utils refactoring? | 14:18 |
| ikhudoshyn | nope, trends | 14:18 |
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| ikhudoshyn | trends report UI, to be exact | 14:18 |
| amaretskiy | boris-42: no, no refactoring | 14:18 |
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| amaretskiy | boris-42: I'm about UI :) | 14:18 |
| boris-42 | amaretskiy: ok ok | 14:19 |
| amaretskiy | boris-42: trends report UI :) | 14:19 |
| rvasilets | Also in what order they are printed? | 14:19 |
| rvasilets | maybe there good to have sorting by key | 14:19 |
| rvasilets | by name | 14:19 |
| amaretskiy | atomic actions order is in their original order how they are stored in results | 14:20 |
| rvasilets | and by the oeder of execution | 14:20 |
| amaretskiy | they can be sorted by name but this looks not reasonable for me | 14:20 |
| boris-42 | amaretskiy: rvasilets let's just refactor atomic actions | 14:20 |
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| boris-42 | amaretskiy: rvasilets instead of adding hacks about order | 14:20 |
| rvasilets | okey=) | 14:21 |
| amaretskiy | agreed | 14:21 |
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| rvasilets | agreed | 14:21 |
| amaretskiy | so, there is a proposal from rvasilets | 14:21 |
| boris-42 | rvasilets: and adding sorting by keys will mess it up | 14:21 |
| amaretskiy | to show dropdown-list for choosing atomic action | 14:21 |
| ikhudoshyn | #agreed Proposed UI for trends report is OK | 14:21 |
| amaretskiy | and show only single charts for selected atomic | 14:21 |
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| amaretskiy | boris-42 andreykurilin ikhudoshin what do you thisnk? | 14:22 |
| amaretskiy | *think | 14:22 |
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| amaretskiy | this is about http://logs.openstack.org/21/276721/4/check/gate-rally-dsvm-rally/0425a53/rally-plot/trends.html.gz#/Dummy.dummy_random_atomic-2/atomic | 14:22 |
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| amaretskiy | display all atomics (as this is now) or select specific atomic by dropdown list? | 14:23 |
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| ikhudoshyn | since I truly believe that the best code is the one that does not exist, I would not add it before we do have a demand for the latter | 14:23 |
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| ikhudoshyn | lets just display all of them | 14:24 |
| ikhudoshyn | as it is | 14:24 |
| amaretskiy | actually changing this to dropdown (later) will not require significant efforts so this is absolutely safe to choose any variant | 14:24 |
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| rvasilets | okey | 14:25 |
| amaretskiy | ok, let;s proceed | 14:25 |
| amaretskiy | with option 2 | 14:25 |
| amaretskiy | 2. Main table "Trends overview" - are columns OK? What to add? | 14:25 |
| amaretskiy | maybe add some extra column? | 14:26 |
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| amaretskiy | we can use status marks like in TBD | 14:26 |
| amaretskiy | any ideas? | 14:26 |
| amaretskiy | Actually we can keep only given columns and add another later | 14:26 |
| amaretskiy | so if no ideas, then we can proceed :) | 14:27 |
| ikhudoshyn | amaretskiy: +1 | 14:27 |
| rvasilets | Myabe just as in our reports passed or failed | 14:28 |
| rvasilets | that is all ideas from my side) | 14:28 |
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| ikhudoshyn | rvasilets: that's what TBD is )) | 14:28 |
| ikhudoshyn | amaretskiy: am I right? | 14:28 |
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| amaretskiy | rvasilets: consider that this is about N runs of report so we can probably mark "failure" for a set of runs that have at least one failed SLA | 14:29 |
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| ikhudoshyn | amaretskiy: that's what i'd expect | 14:29 |
| rvasilets | Red - if SLA failed(or at least one SLA) | 14:30 |
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| amaretskiy | okay, so we have proposal | 14:30 |
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| amaretskiy | add a column (in place of TBD) with name "SLA" | 14:30 |
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| amaretskiy | and status marker - failure if at least one run has failed SLA | 14:31 |
| amaretskiy | correct? | 14:31 |
| rvasilets | yes, for example | 14:31 |
| amaretskiy | okay | 14:31 |
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| amaretskiy | ikhudoshyn boris-42 please give your votes :) | 14:32 |
| ikhudoshyn | + | 14:32 |
| amaretskiy | great, I will add SLA | 14:32 |
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| amaretskiy | I guess we can proceed to 3) | 14:32 |
| boris-42 | ok | 14:33 |
| amaretskiy | 3. There is a good proposal from ikhudoshyn regarding missed runs | 14:33 |
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| ikhudoshyn | amaretskiy: whould you remind it? | 14:35 |
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| amaretskiy | explanation: we expect from users to specify tasks with same scenarios, however user can actually specify arbitrary or different scenarios, so we can have a user case with tasks: (A, B, C, D), (A, B, C, D), (A, B, C, E), | 14:35 |
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| amaretskiy | you see that we have scenario "E" | 14:35 |
| amaretskiy | which appears single time | 14:36 |
| amaretskiy | so trends report will even does not show it in menu - just kick it off silently | 14:36 |
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| amaretskiy | the idea is to show it in menu just to inform user that this scenario appeared in input data, but do not show charts (of course) because we can not build chart from single point | 14:37 |
| ikhudoshyn | we have to show something when user selects it in the menu | 14:38 |
| amaretskiy | so, let's approve/disapprove this: should I add single-appeared scenarios to left-side menu (and overview table with "n/a" results or smth like this) to report? | 14:38 |
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| amaretskiy | boris-42 ^ | 14:38 |
| amaretskiy | rvasilets & | 14:38 |
| amaretskiy | rvasilets ^ | 14:38 |
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| amaretskiy | andreykurilin ^ | 14:39 |
| ikhudoshyn | you dont even need 'n/a' -- just show '1' number of runs in overview | 14:39 |
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| ikhudoshyn | min max and avg will be valid | 14:39 |
| amaretskiy | ikhudoshyn: agreed | 14:39 |
| rvasilets | I think that we need | 14:40 |
| rvasilets | if its not hard to us | 14:40 |
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| amaretskiy | great, so decided to show this data (personally me agreed too) | 14:40 |
| amaretskiy | Any other ideas about trends report& | 14:41 |
| rvasilets | because we don't know what the strange yamls user will run. And such displaying is a good bonus | 14:41 |
| amaretskiy | agreed | 14:41 |
| ikhudoshyn | looks like no objections | 14:41 |
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| amaretskiy | okay, so let's complete topic about trends report | 14:42 |
| ikhudoshyn | anything else to discuss on the topic? | 14:42 |
| ikhudoshyn | ok | 14:42 |
| ikhudoshyn | we actually have another one in the agenda | 14:42 |
| ikhudoshyn | but since stpierre is not around I believe we'd skip it for now | 14:43 |
| ikhudoshyn | ok? | 14:43 |
| stpierre | i am now | 14:43 |
| stpierre | i was a little late arriving, sorry | 14:43 |
| ikhudoshyn | great) | 14:43 |
| ikhudoshyn | #topic [stpierre] How to test complex functional cases (e.g., https://review.openstack.org/#/c/282918/) | 14:43 |
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| stpierre | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/282918/ | 14:43 |
| ikhudoshyn | stpierre: your turn | 14:43 |
| stpierre | that's the second attempt at a patch that caused a lot of problems with 0.3.0 | 14:44 |
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| stpierre | as you can see from the description there are three bugs linked, and at least one more mentioned in the discussion | 14:44 |
| stpierre | most of those bugs have fairly trivial test cases against a running openstack | 14:44 |
| stpierre | but we don't currently have a good way of executing those in gates, that i'm aware of | 14:44 |
| stpierre | so, given the discussion last week around improving test coverage: 1) do we want to be adding arbitrary, potentially complex tests against a running openstack to gate? 2) if so, how? | 14:45 |
| stpierre | no one has any opinions? :) | 14:46 |
| ikhudoshyn | well, I believe 1) has an easy answer -- yes | 14:47 |
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| ikhudoshyn | the issue is that amount of such tests could be enormous | 14:47 |
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| stpierre | yeah. and devstack and gate are really fragile already | 14:48 |
| amaretskiy | +1 for "yes" from me | 14:48 |
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| stpierre | "yes" seems like the obvious answer, but i'm worried that the devil is in the details. but certainly if we can make it happen without creating excessively many gate jobs (and excessively many devstacks) then it seems more reasonable | 14:49 |
| ikhudoshyn | sometimes I think we miss an oldschool manual QA ) | 14:49 |
| andreykurilin | stpierre: there is one more bug appeared after that patch:) | 14:49 |
| stpierre | hah | 14:49 |
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| andreykurilin | stpierre: I had a talk with redixin and he will try to add new job to rally-ci with "devstack+ssl+keystone_v3" | 14:50 |
| stpierre | cool | 14:50 |
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| rvasilets__ | We could try to build our corrent functional tests on the real db:-) | 14:50 |
| stpierre | how many devstack deployment scenarios can we reasonably cover? that seems like a real concern | 14:50 |
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| andreykurilin | stpierre: also, I want to make one of jobs(we have 2 of them) for "rally verify" with keystone v3 | 14:51 |
| amaretskiy | stpierre: the main reason (afaik) why we have many dsvm is different devstack configuration (neutron vs nova-network and so on) | 14:51 |
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| stpierre | yeah | 14:51 |
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| stpierre | and i'm sure we could easily come up with reasons to have twice as many | 14:51 |
| ikhudoshyn | what stops us from that actually& | 14:52 |
| ikhudoshyn | ? | 14:52 |
| stpierre | so maybe the current process, where it's fairly time consuming to add a new gate job, is the right process | 14:52 |
| ikhudoshyn | just curious | 14:52 |
| andreykurilin | btw, it will be easier to increase quality of our ci by moving all job hooks to our repo. It will provide an easy way to experiment with job opts | 14:52 |
| stpierre | we have to really want to test something new in order to add a job | 14:52 |
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| stpierre | ikhudoshyn: my concerns would be a) the time it takes to run everything; and b) the fragility of gate. with enough jobs, you'd be practically guaranteed that at least one would experience a random transient failure | 14:53 |
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| ikhudoshyn | stpierre: looks like it's because the product is complex | 14:53 |
| ikhudoshyn | we still have to test it | 14:53 |
| stpierre | also, devstack is awful. but that's not gonna change either | 14:53 |
| ikhudoshyn | true^^ | 14:54 |
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| andreykurilin | stpierre: Is there an alternative to devstack? | 14:54 |
| stpierre | i don't think there's a reasonable one for this use case | 14:54 |
| ikhudoshyn | yet i think we can not afford only running tests during release preparation | 14:54 |
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| stpierre | no, i agree | 14:55 |
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| ikhudoshyn | that's the idea of CI -- always working, always green | 14:55 |
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| ikhudoshyn | i we have to test -- we should do | 14:55 |
| ikhudoshyn | if it takes too long -- so it's big | 14:55 |
| stpierre | andreykurilin: can you talk a little more about what moving job hooks to our repo would involve and how that would work? | 14:56 |
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| ikhudoshyn | guys, we're running out of time. let's continue on our channel | 14:57 |
| stpierre | ok | 14:57 |
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| andreykurilin | stpierre: it should allow us to select keystone v2/v3 for each job locally. Just additional checks here https://github.com/openstack-infra/project-config/blob/master/jenkins/jobs/rally.yaml#L174-L176 | 14:57 |
| stpierre | for the sake of the logs, let's get the keystone v3 checks andreykurilin described earlier implemented, and we can continue to think on how to best approach this | 14:58 |
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| andreykurilin | also, we can try to launch partial jobs in venv and some of them system-wide | 14:58 |
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| ikhudoshyn | thanks everybody | 14:59 |
| ikhudoshyn | #endmeeting | 14:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Feb 29 14:59:51 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rally/2016/rally.2016-02-29-14.05.html | 14:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rally/2016/rally.2016-02-29-14.05.txt | 14:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rally/2016/rally.2016-02-29-14.05.log.html | 14:59 |
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| anteaya | #startmeeting third-party | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Feb 29 15:00:19 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is anteaya. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'third_party' | 15:00 |
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| anteaya | hello | 15:00 |
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| asselin | good morning | 15:00 |
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| mmedvede | morning everyone | 15:01 |
| anteaya | morning | 15:01 |
| lennyb__ | hi | 15:01 |
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| anteaya | beautiful day where I am, back home again | 15:01 |
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| anteaya | \o/ | 15:01 |
| anteaya | how is everyone else? | 15:01 |
| mmedvede | can't complain myself, birds are chirping outside | 15:01 |
| anteaya | mmedvede: nice | 15:01 |
| anteaya | what shall we discuss today? | 15:02 |
| lennyb__ | my working day is almost gone :) | 15:02 |
| anteaya | lennyb__: that can be good too | 15:02 |
| anteaya | does anyone have any item they wish to discuss? | 15:02 |
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| anteaya | nothing? | 15:03 |
| lennyb | nope | 15:04 |
| anteaya | okay well I won't keep you if you have other things | 15:04 |
| anteaya | I'll hang out for a bit in case anyone shows up late | 15:04 |
| anteaya | thanks for being here today :) | 15:04 |
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| mmedvede | yay for short meetings :) | 15:05 |
| asselin | ++ | 15:06 |
| anteaya | :) | 15:06 |
| anteaya | I like to keep meetings open for at least 10 minutes in case a first timer is late or something | 15:06 |
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| mmedvede | that is reasonable | 15:07 |
| anteaya | thanks | 15:07 |
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| anteaya | at it is 10 after | 15:10 |
| anteaya | any objection to me closing the meeting? | 15:10 |
| asselin | no objections | 15:10 |
| anteaya | thanks | 15:10 |
| anteaya | thanks all for your kind attendance and participation | 15:11 |
| anteaya | see you all next week | 15:11 |
| anteaya | #endmeeting | 15:11 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Feb 29 15:11:09 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:11 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2016/third_party.2016-02-29-15.00.html | 15:11 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2016/third_party.2016-02-29-15.00.txt | 15:11 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2016/third_party.2016-02-29-15.00.log.html | 15:11 |
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| rakhmerov | #startmeeting Mistral | 16:04 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Feb 29 16:04:50 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rakhmerov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:04 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:04 |
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| rakhmerov | hi | 16:04 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'mistral' | 16:04 |
| nmakhotkin_ | hi everyone! | 16:05 |
| ddeja | hello | 16:05 |
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| rakhmerov | 1 sec | 16:06 |
| rakhmerov | #topic Review Action Items | 16:07 |
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| rakhmerov | just one item | 16:07 |
| rakhmerov | 1. rakhmerov: propose time slots for 2 different meetings (for 2 groups of people from completely different time zones) | 16:07 |
| rakhmerov | not done | 16:07 |
| rakhmerov | #action rakhmerov: propose time slots for 2 different meetings (for 2 groups of people from completely different time zones) | 16:07 |
| rakhmerov | #topic Current status (progress, issues, roadblocks, further plans) | 16:08 |
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| rakhmerov | my status: still working on bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/mistral/+bug/1524477, reviewing patches (just a few), emails | 16:09 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1524477 in Mistral "After-task logic runs multiple times if tasks run in parallel" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Renat Akhmerov (rakhmerov) | 16:09 |
| rakhmerov | ^Gal^: you here? | 16:09 |
| nmakhotkin_ | my status: discussed with rakhmerov and akuznetsova steps for creating HA gate; revewing patches | 16:09 |
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| akuznetsova | hi there | 16:10 |
| rakhmerov | nmakhotkin_: is there a way to finish you RPC patch before M-3 is over? | 16:10 |
| rakhmerov | I know you want to create a functional test but maybe we could mock things up in order to have just unit tests? | 16:10 |
| akuznetsova | my status is the same as nmakhotkin_ | 16:11 |
| nmakhotkin_ | rakhmerov: the patch itself is ready | 16:11 |
| rakhmerov | yes | 16:11 |
| rakhmerov | I know | 16:11 |
| nmakhotkin_ | but it requires a test | 16:11 |
| rakhmerov | right | 16:11 |
| nmakhotkin_ | and it should be a functional test | 16:11 |
| rakhmerov | agree | 16:11 |
| nmakhotkin_ | to do this we need HA-gate :) | 16:11 |
| ddeja | maybe merge before M-3 and launch lack of tests as a bug? | 16:11 |
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| rakhmerov | what I'm trying to say is: we may want to merge the patch with just a unit tests | 16:11 |
| rakhmerov | if we can emulate multiple executors somehow | 16:12 |
| nmakhotkin_ | hmm | 16:12 |
| rakhmerov | ddeja: that's an option too | 16:12 |
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| rakhmerov | here's my concern: that story with HA-gate may take long | 16:12 |
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| rakhmerov | but folks need that patch | 16:13 |
| nmakhotkin_ | yes, I try to create a unit-test for that | 16:13 |
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| akuznetsova | rakhmerov, we have a bp for HA gate, i am not sure that we need bug too | 16:13 |
| akuznetsova | and yes, it will need time | 16:14 |
| rakhmerov | akuznetsova: no, we are talking about a particular bug | 16:14 |
| rakhmerov | that message acknowledgement thing | 16:14 |
| akuznetsova | lack of HA tests? | 16:14 |
| rakhmerov | for a particular issue | 16:14 |
| rakhmerov | not in general | 16:14 |
| akuznetsova | i see | 16:15 |
| akuznetsova | ok | 16:15 |
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| ddeja | rakhmerov: Can this patch be merged after M-3, or it must be done in upcoming 3 days? | 16:16 |
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| rakhmerov | ddeja: since this is a bug it can be merged after M-3 | 16:16 |
| ddeja | that's a good thing | 16:16 |
| rakhmerov | but I just don't want to have another excuse for deffering it | 16:16 |
| ddeja | ok | 16:16 |
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| rakhmerov | ok | 16:18 |
| rakhmerov | I wonder if we have anyone else on the meeting | 16:18 |
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| rakhmerov | Lingxian is not here | 16:18 |
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| rakhmerov | I wanted to review M-3 BPs and bugs but looks like it doesn't make a lot of sense now | 16:19 |
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| rakhmerov | about a half of our BPs will be done | 16:20 |
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| rakhmerov | a little bit better with bugs | 16:21 |
| rakhmerov | ok, let's skip a detailed review | 16:21 |
| rakhmerov | I was hoping that some of ALU folks would be here | 16:22 |
| rakhmerov | we have some UI patches and they need to be rebased | 16:22 |
| rakhmerov | I'll contact them separately | 16:22 |
| rakhmerov | #action rakhmerov: ask ALU folks to rebase patches | 16:23 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 16:23 |
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| rakhmerov | #topic Open Discussion | 16:23 |
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| rakhmerov | any specific questions? | 16:23 |
| rakhmerov | I'd ask you to review patches actively this week | 16:23 |
| nmakhotkin_ | ok | 16:23 |
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| rakhmerov | we need to put as many patches as possible | 16:23 |
| rakhmerov | yes | 16:23 |
| rakhmerov | there's a few patches now with 1 +2 vote on review | 16:24 |
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| rakhmerov | so, if that's all then let's end the meeting | 16:24 |
| rakhmerov | not many people today here | 16:24 |
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| rakhmerov | counting to 10 and finish | 16:25 |
| rakhmerov | 1 | 16:25 |
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| rakhmerov | thanks, I'll see you online | 16:26 |
| rakhmerov | bye | 16:26 |
| rakhmerov | #endmeeting | 16:26 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Feb 29 16:26:22 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:26 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2016/mistral.2016-02-29-16.04.html | 16:26 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2016/mistral.2016-02-29-16.04.txt | 16:26 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2016/mistral.2016-02-29-16.04.log.html | 16:26 |
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| adam_g | #startmeeting astara | 18:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Feb 29 18:00:36 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is adam_g. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'astara' | 18:00 |
| adam_g | o/ | 18:00 |
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| adam_g | anyone around? markmcclain ryanpetrello rods elo | 18:02 |
| ryanpetrello | in a standup o/ | 18:02 |
| rods | o/ | 18:02 |
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| eric_lopez | hello | 18:03 |
| phil_h | hello | 18:03 |
| adam_g | hey all | 18:04 |
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| adam_g | #topic mitaka development | 18:04 |
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| adam_g | so we're quickly approaching our RC1 | 18:05 |
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| adam_g | xiayu has finished up work on the olso.rootwrap blueprint at https://review.openstack.org/281034 so any review eyes on that would be great, it looks LGTM | 18:05 |
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| adam_g | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/astara/+spec/astara-rootwrap | 18:05 |
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| adam_g | ive been busy working on the appliance HA blueprint, and it should be ready for testing + review | 18:07 |
| adam_g | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/astara/+spec/appliance-ha | 18:07 |
| adam_g | that includes patches across the astara and astara-appliance repos | 18:07 |
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| adam_g | not sure if markmcclain is around so im not sure the status of the stuff he's been workin on | 18:08 |
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| adam_g | #topic bugs | 18:09 |
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| adam_g | phil_h, eric_lopez mark put up https://review.openstack.org/#/c/285566/ to hopefully straighten out the northbound issues you were seeing, right? has anyone confirmed its the fix? | 18:09 |
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| phil_h | I will check it out later today or in the morning | 18:10 |
| eric_lopez | I've not tested this patch, yet. will do it later today | 18:10 |
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| adam_g | cool | 18:11 |
| adam_g | rods, ryanpetrello and the kilo thread lockup you guys were wrestling with has bene solved with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/282054/ ? | 18:12 |
| ryanpetrello | yep, looks that way | 18:12 |
| ryanpetrello | we haven't had the issue since deploying that change about a week and a half ago | 18:12 |
| adam_g | nice | 18:12 |
| adam_g | thanks for driving that | 18:12 |
| ryanpetrello | re: the northbound fix Mark put up | 18:13 |
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| ryanpetrello | it was originally to fix a bug we were seeing: https://github.com/openstack/astara-appliance/commit/047702d740145836ab8f09a111334b41717b6351 | 18:13 |
| ryanpetrello | but I've tested his changeset in 285566 and it doesn't seem to introduce a regression for us | 18:14 |
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| adam_g | cool | 18:15 |
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| adam_g | any other bugs to mention here? | 18:16 |
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| adam_g | heya mark | 18:16 |
| markmcclain | none from me | 18:17 |
| adam_g | ok moving on | 18:18 |
| adam_g | #topic open discussion | 18:18 |
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| adam_g | so summit planning.. we have the option of requesting a full fishbowl style room, a smaller working room, or just using the friday contributor meetup time to do our work | 18:19 |
| markmcclain | I'd vote for smaller room or contributor meetup | 18:19 |
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| phil_h | I am starting to loadbalancer docs. If things go weel I should havesomething by Wed. | 18:19 |
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| adam_g | i think it'd be overkill for our small team to ask for a bigger room, so im thinking we just do what we have been doing and use the contributor meetup on friday to get together and dig into stuff | 18:20 |
| phil_h | I agree, the smaller room would be better | 18:20 |
| adam_g | i'll actually reach out to astara contributors this week and see if i can get a headcount for how many will be there | 18:20 |
| adam_g | #action adam_g send out email to astara contributors to determine headcount for austin and room needs | 18:20 |
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| adam_g | if we end up with a dozen or so people planning on being there and involved, i'd ask for the working room | 18:21 |
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| adam_g | phil_h, sounds greate, re lbaas docs | 18:21 |
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| adam_g | anyone have anything else they'd like to bring up or shall we get back to it? | 18:22 |
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| adam_g | ok guess not, tty guys later | 18:25 |
| adam_g | #endmeeting | 18:25 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Feb 29 18:25:39 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:25 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/astara/2016/astara.2016-02-29-18.00.html | 18:25 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/astara/2016/astara.2016-02-29-18.00.txt | 18:25 |
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