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| thinrichs | Hi all. Time for the congress meeting. | 00:01 |
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| ekcs | hi | 00:01 |
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| tsandall | hello | 00:01 |
| bryan_att | hi | 00:01 |
| thinrichs | #startmeeting CongressTeamMeeting | 00:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Feb 11 00:01:34 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is thinrichs. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 00:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 00:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'congressteammeeting' | 00:01 |
| ramineni | hi | 00:01 |
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| thinrichs | masahito, pballand: courtesy ping | 00:02 |
| masahito | hi | 00:02 |
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| thinrichs | Here's my agenda for today… | 00:03 |
| thinrichs | 1. Austin summit | 00:03 |
| thinrichs | 2. Mitaka timelines | 00:03 |
| thinrichs | 3. Distributed arch updates | 00:03 |
| thinrichs | Anything else? | 00:03 |
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| thinrichs | bryan_att: do you have anything specific for us? | 00:03 |
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| bryan_att | I can give an update on testing and install on OPNFV, open issues etc | 00:04 |
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| thinrichs | bryan_att: Sounds good. I'll call on you in a bit. | 00:04 |
| thinrichs | #topic Austin summit | 00:04 |
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| thinrichs | masahito: would you like to tell us a little about the talk you proposed for Austin? | 00:05 |
| masahito | yes | 00:05 |
| masahito | I submitted a presentation about Congress. | 00:05 |
| masahito | Congress in NFV-based Mobile Cellular Network Fault Recovery | 00:06 |
| masahito | https://www.openstack.org/summit/austin-2016/vote-for-speakers/presentation/7199 | 00:06 |
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| masahito | feel free to add +3 on it :) | 00:07 |
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| masahito | sorry, I have to leave here in a min. so please send me a mail if you have any question. | 00:08 |
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| thinrichs | masahito: thanks! The talk looks interesting. I'm hoping it gets accepted! | 00:09 |
| thinrichs | No other announcements from me about Austin. Questions or comments? | 00:10 |
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| thinrichs | #topic OPNFV update | 00:10 |
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| thinrichs | bryan_att: want to give us an update? | 00:10 |
| bryan_att | OK, last time I gave an update was 12-17-15\ | 00:11 |
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| bryan_att | Since then I have been focused on getting to a code freeze for the OPNFV B release, with a Congress installer support. | 00:11 |
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| bryan_att | I didn't make the code freeze, but I will in a service release e.g. April | 00:12 |
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| bryan_att | I still have the list of issues I noted in Dec to send in an email. That's my open item for this team. | 00:12 |
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| thinrichs | Sounds like you're getting the installer problem under control. That's great! | 00:12 |
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| bryan_att | But I do have now a fairly repeatable, scripted install (bash scripts). | 00:12 |
| bryan_att | I need to turn it into Ansible / Puppet etc. | 00:13 |
| bryan_att | No other specific update - just I am plugging away, and developing as a user. | 00:13 |
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| thinrichs | Thanks for the update. Let us know if you need anything from us. | 00:14 |
| bryan_att | I will sne the issue list asap - believe me I haven't forgotten. | 00:14 |
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| thinrichs | bryan_att: that's much appreciated. Thanks. | 00:15 |
| thinrichs | #topic Mitaka | 00:15 |
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| thinrichs | The Mitaka3 deadline is coming up the first week of February. | 00:15 |
| thinrichs | That means feature freeze for the server, which we're basically already in. | 00:15 |
| thinrichs | It also means that the command-line client needs to be released in early Feb. | 00:16 |
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| thinrichs | The CLI is released earlier than the servers so every project using another project's client can iron out problems that arise when the client changes. | 00:16 |
| thinrichs | The only project that I know of that's using Congress today is murano, so we may have some wiggle room there. | 00:17 |
| thinrichs | But let's try to get the client in shape by Feb 1. | 00:17 |
| thinrichs | In particular that means knowing whether we'll still be able to create/delete datasources. | 00:18 |
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| thinrichs | As long as we don't decide to pull that feature out in Mitaka, we could probably release the client today and be fine. | 00:18 |
| thinrichs | Any thoughts? | 00:18 |
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| ramineni | thinrichs: client should wrk as is now with old architecture right | 00:19 |
| thinrichs | ramineni: right | 00:19 |
| thinrichs | It's only if we try to transition entirely to the new arch and we don't support create/delete datasources in the new arch. | 00:20 |
| thinrichs | that the client would need to change. | 00:20 |
| ramineni | thinrichs: ya | 00:20 |
| thinrichs | In my mind, the plan is to keep create/delete datasources whether we're in the new arch or the old arch. | 00:21 |
| ramineni | thinrichs: i think logic for add/delete datasources is in datasource manager right | 00:22 |
| thinrichs | If we do that, the client will work pretty much as is. | 00:22 |
| ekcs | thinrichs: do you mean Mar 1 instead of Feb 1 for client release? | 00:22 |
| thinrichs | ramineni: right | 00:22 |
| thinrichs | March1, not Feb1. Right ekcs | 00:22 |
| bryan_att | thinrichs: a clarification - if you can't create datasources, is there a fixed list that are always available? | 00:22 |
| ramineni | thinrichs: then i think we might need more changes , as currently it doesnt touch datasource-mgr in new arch | 00:23 |
| thinrichs | bryan_att: the idea was that you would control the datasources at configuration time, not at run-time. | 00:23 |
| bryan_att | OK, clear. | 00:23 |
| thinrichs | bryan_att: so if you wanted to restart the datasources, you'd need to restart the system. | 00:23 |
| thinrichs | ramineni: right they're in the datasource manager. | 00:23 |
| thinrichs | ramineni: ekcs has started moving that functionality to DSE2 | 00:23 |
| ramineni | thinrichs: oh, great | 00:24 |
| thinrichs | The idea would be that for Mitaka, we could use DSE2 but just put everything on a single node. | 00:24 |
| thinrichs | That would make creation/deletion of datasources work just like it does today. | 00:24 |
| ramineni | thinrichs: ok | 00:24 |
| thinrichs | Then after Mitaka, we could work on having multiple DSENodes, and creating/deleting services on each o them. | 00:24 |
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| thinrichs | Anyone see any problems with that plan? | 00:25 |
| ramineni | thinrichs: no, sounds good | 00:25 |
| thinrichs | We've naturally fallen into the next topic… | 00:26 |
| thinrichs | #topic distributed arch | 00:26 |
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| thinrichs | There's been a lot of activity on this since last week. | 00:26 |
| thinrichs | Which is great! | 00:26 |
| thinrichs | I took stock of where we are earlier today. | 00:27 |
| thinrichs | I went through the bug list and blueprint list and added a few bugs. | 00:27 |
| thinrichs | What I'm doing now is marking all the DSE2 issues as High importance | 00:27 |
| thinrichs | If it's something that we need to get done before mitaka3, I added mitaka3 as the milestone. | 00:28 |
| thinrichs | If it's something that we can wait on until after Mitaka, I didn't add the mitaka3 milestone. | 00:28 |
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| thinrichs | Generally, we want to focus on functionality and correctness, and leave optimization and code cleanliness to later. | 00:28 |
| thinrichs | Questions on any of that? | 00:29 |
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| thinrichs | Let's hear some status updates on what people have done, what they're stuck on if anything, and what they're hoping to do next. | 00:30 |
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| thinrichs | ramineni: want to start? | 00:30 |
| ramineni | thinrichs: sure | 00:30 |
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| ramineni | thinrichs: iḿ done with migrating api models , and exceptions patch is in progress , once that done i have one more bug assigned of migrating test_congress to dse2 | 00:31 |
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| ramineni | thinrichs: for exceptions patch, i have got all services registered on peers from control bus | 00:32 |
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| thinrichs | ramineni: cool! | 00:32 |
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| thinrichs | Are you going to add a method to DataService that encapsulates that? Or is it not generally useful? | 00:33 |
| ramineni | thinrichs: ill raise a dependent patch to enable all the tests already merged | 00:33 |
| thinrichs | ramineni: sounds good | 00:33 |
| thinrichs | ramineni: nice job on the api models. Very clean. Example… | 00:33 |
| thinrichs | https://github.com/openstack/congress/blob/master/congress/api/status_model.py | 00:34 |
| ramineni | thinrichs: :) thanks | 00:34 |
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| ramineni | thinrichs: currently we have a function in dse node to get the dse status | 00:35 |
| thinrichs | I'm moving the couple of API models I worked on over to your new basecalss. | 00:35 |
| ramineni | thinrichs: but that doesn include services running on current node | 00:35 |
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| ramineni | https://github.com/openstack/congress/blob/master/congress/dse2/control_bus.py#L127 | 00:36 |
| thinrichs | ramineni: I think there were several places we wanted to know if a dataservice existed, so having that functionality as part of the DSE2 makes sense, I'd say. | 00:36 |
| ramineni | thinrichs: yes, but should we status of current node too, to get all the data at one place? | 00:37 |
| ramineni | should we add** | 00:37 |
| thinrichs | I think the operation I saw in the code was: "does service X exist"? | 00:38 |
| thinrichs | But yes I would think we should have an abstraction that combines local and remote services. | 00:38 |
| thinrichs | ramineni: anything else? | 00:39 |
| ramineni | thinrichs: no, migrting test_congress is pending from my side | 00:39 |
| thinrichs | ramineni: sounds good. | 00:39 |
| thinrichs | ekcs: want to go next? | 00:39 |
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| ekcs | thinrichs: sure. | 00:40 |
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| ekcs | I made a minimal change to managers/datasource to get it working on deepsix2. I also looked at whether we can rely on migrating datasource_model instead, but i’m not I totally understand the vision. | 00:41 |
| thinrichs | I think what we can do is move the creation/deletion of datasources out of the datasource manager and into the DseNode class. | 00:43 |
| thinrichs | I'd think the rest of the functionality in the datasource manager is obsolete with the new API-models. | 00:44 |
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| ramineni | ekcs: ya, migrating to dsenode would be better | 00:45 |
| thinrichs | #link https://github.com/openstack/congress/blob/master/congress/managers/datasource.py | 00:45 |
| thinrichs | I'm perusing the code now… | 00:45 |
| thinrichs | The other way to look at it is that if we look at the API datasource_model, we basically need to migrate that functionality into the DseNode | 00:46 |
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| thinrichs | After perusing, it looks like most of the functions inside the datasource manager are used for creation/deletion. | 00:48 |
| thinrichs | Some definitely aren't, but most seem to be. | 00:49 |
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| thinrichs | ekcs: maybe your existing datasource manager migration makes sense for now. | 00:50 |
| thinrichs | We'll want to move that code out of the manager and into the DSeNode eventually, but that's more cosmeetic than functional. | 00:50 |
| thinrichs | ekcs: what do you think? | 00:50 |
| ekcs | thinrichs: I think either way is fine. Maybe I don’t understand the implications enough to have a strong opinion either way. | 00:51 |
| thinrichs | Anyone else have opinions? | 00:51 |
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| ramineni | thinrichs: but how do we invoke the functionalities? | 00:52 |
| ramineni | thinrichs: rpc is not possible | 00:52 |
| thinrichs | ramineni: for now the API could send an RPC call to the DseNode it is running in (or just have a python reference to the DseNode) | 00:53 |
| thinrichs | Remember that the API will be deployed as a service inside the 1 DseNode. | 00:54 |
| thinrichs | But you're right that we'll need to work that out to figure out the best way. | 00:54 |
| thinrichs | 5 minutes left. | 00:55 |
| ekcs | I’m not following. Will need to catch up in my understanding. | 00:55 |
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| thinrichs | ekcs: okay. Let's move ahead with the migration you already did for the datasource manager. I'll dig into it a little to see if there's anything left to do. | 00:56 |
| thinrichs | #topic open discussion | 00:56 |
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| thinrichs | Before we run out of time, we have a newcomer. | 00:57 |
| thinrichs | tsandall: could you introduce yourself? | 00:57 |
| tsandall | thinrichs: thanks! | 00:57 |
| tsandall | hey all, name is Torin Sandall. I started looking into congress last summer after the Vancouver summit. | 00:58 |
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| tsandall | I'm excited about making more contributions to congress in the future! | 00:58 |
| tsandall | ...and as of recently, I'm working at Styra, Inc. | 00:59 |
| tsandall | that's all for now :) | 00:59 |
| ekcs | tsandall: awesomeness. | 00:59 |
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| ramineni | tsandall: great, welcome :) | 00:59 |
| thinrichs | tsandall: Welcome (officially)! | 00:59 |
| thinrichs | And we're out of time. Let's keep pushing to hit that mitaka3 deadline! | 01:00 |
| thinrichs | #endmeeting | 01:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Feb 11 01:00:22 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 01:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2016/congressteammeeting.2016-02-11-00.01.html | 01:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2016/congressteammeeting.2016-02-11-00.01.txt | 01:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2016/congressteammeeting.2016-02-11-00.01.log.html | 01:00 |
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| dmellado | Hi guys, who's around? ;) | 09:02 |
| jlanoux | o/ | 09:03 |
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| dmellado | Hi jlanoux, is there no moderator today? xD | 09:03 |
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| jlanoux | Hi dmellado - do you mean the meeting chair? :) I don't know. | 09:04 |
| jordanP | hi | 09:05 |
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| jordanP | yes there's no agenda for today | 09:05 |
| dmellado | oh, awesome | 09:05 |
| dmellado | we didn't change the time again, like after Christmas, did we? | 09:06 |
| dmellado | xD | 09:06 |
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| jordanP | no time is correct | 09:06 |
| dmellado | when was the mid-cycle? | 09:06 |
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| jordanP | February 22-24, 2016 | 09:07 |
| dmellado | ack, so still noone there | 09:07 |
| dmellado | so, should we go over the usual topics? | 09:07 |
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| jlanoux | It seems there are only the 3 of us... | 09:07 |
| jordanP | has anyone anything to say ? | 09:08 |
| dmellado | yep, from my side just a comment | 09:08 |
| dmellado | please update the etherpads if you are working on something | 09:08 |
| dmellado | I've gotten an issue where I assigned myself just to see that some work had already been done | 09:08 |
| dmellado | ylobankov's not around, but I'll ping him when he is xD | 09:09 |
| dmellado | from my side I'm working on getting the keystonev3 clients split | 09:09 |
| dmellado | I plan tbd this week | 09:09 |
| jordanP | yeah, and that's good | 09:09 |
| dmellado | so from now this patch is going over jenkins https://review.openstack.org/#/c/277863/ | 09:10 |
| patchbot | dmellado: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/277863/ - tempest - Split users_client from keystone V3 client | 09:10 |
| dmellado | and I plan to submit more on the topic | 09:10 |
| dmellado | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-tempest-service-clients | 09:10 |
| dmellado | that's from me ;) | 09:10 |
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| jordanP | guys I am sorry I have to leave | 09:11 |
| dmellado | has anyone anything more to say? | 09:11 |
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| dmellado | then let's close this off ;) | 09:12 |
| dmellado | jlanoux: lonely guys go back to usual channel, thanks! xD | 09:12 |
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| jlanoux | dmellado: :) | 09:13 |
| jlanoux | see you later! | 09:13 |
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| johnthetubaguy | #startmeeting nova | 14:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Feb 11 14:01:00 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is johnthetubaguy. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:01 |
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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:01 |
| dims | o/ | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:01 | |
| sdague | o/ | 14:01 |
| raildo | \o | 14:01 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova' | 14:01 |
| claudiub | o/ | 14:01 |
| johnthetubaguy | welcome one and all | 14:01 |
| markus_z | o/ | 14:01 |
| bauzas | \o | 14:01 |
| edleafe | \o | 14:01 |
| cdent | o/ | 14:01 |
| jichen | o/ | 14:01 |
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| andrearosa | hi | 14:01 |
| takashin | o/ | 14:01 |
| pkoniszewski | o/ | 14:01 |
| flip214 | hi | 14:01 |
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| johnthetubaguy | #topic Release Status | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Release Status (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:01 | |
| scottda | hi | 14:01 |
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| johnthetubaguy | #info Mar 1-3, Mitaka-3 and feature freeze, Final release for client libraries, Soft String Freeze, etc. | 14:01 |
| alaski | o/ | 14:01 |
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| johnthetubaguy | so not long now till we hit full FF, etc | 14:01 |
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| johnthetubaguy | #link http://docs.openstack.org/releases/schedules/mitaka.html | 14:02 |
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| johnthetubaguy | general libraries have a different deadline, see above | 14:02 |
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| * jroll lurks | 14:02 | |
| johnthetubaguy | so I have had a -2 fest, to try and execute the Feature freeze | 14:02 |
| johnthetubaguy | currently we look like this: | 14:02 |
| johnthetubaguy | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/mitaka | 14:02 |
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| PaulMurray | o/ | 14:03 |
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| johnthetubaguy | or another view: | 14:03 |
| johnthetubaguy | #link http://5885fef486164bb8596d-41634d3e64ee11f37e8658ed1b4d12ec.r44.cf3.rackcdn.com/release_status.html | 14:03 |
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| johnthetubaguy | so I think at this point the aim is: | 14:03 |
| johnthetubaguy | focus our efforts on the priorities | 14:03 |
| johnthetubaguy | review and coding efforts | 14:03 |
| johnthetubaguy | mostly review | 14:03 |
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| johnthetubaguy | #link http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/priorities/mitaka-priorities.html | 14:04 |
| johnthetubaguy | and bug fixes | 14:04 |
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| johnthetubaguy | so lets stop things like python 3.4, mox, etc | 14:04 |
| johnthetubaguy | so we have time to get the priorities in | 14:04 |
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| johnthetubaguy | any questions? | 14:04 |
| sdague | you still wanted the conf changes to move forward? | 14:04 |
| rlrossit | o/ | 14:04 |
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| johnthetubaguy | yeah, good point sdague, I really like the idea of us improving the CONF option docs | 14:05 |
| sdague | it would be good to send out an email to folks about which of the low hanging fruit mass code changes we're stopping and which we're keeping | 14:05 |
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| johnthetubaguy | so I kinda want to keep that going, if we can | 14:05 |
| sdague | I agree to put the pause button on py34 and mox | 14:05 |
| johnthetubaguy | #action johnthetubaguy to send email about which low-hanging fruit things are stopping | 14:05 |
| markus_z | they are very low risk | 14:05 |
| edleafe | It seems that review bandwidth is the problem with the conf stuff | 14:05 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, same for objects changes, etc, I think we pause those now | 14:05 |
| johnthetubaguy | edleafe: yeah, there are lots of changes, but its worth it for the docs | 14:06 |
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| johnthetubaguy | I would rather we got those, than removed [] calls, I mean I would like both, but thats not possible | 14:06 |
| johnthetubaguy | cools, lets keep moving | 14:06 |
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| johnthetubaguy | #topic Regular Reminders | 14:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Regular Reminders (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:06 | |
| johnthetubaguy | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-nova-priorities-tracking | 14:06 |
| johnthetubaguy | you know what to do. | 14:06 |
| johnthetubaguy | #topic Bugs | 14:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:06 | |
| markus_z | no criticals I know of | 14:07 |
| auggy | ^^ | 14:07 |
| markus_z | but a lot of open bugs which don't have a further triage how important they are | 14:07 |
| johnthetubaguy | so I know dansmith had something on here about reducing our CI load | 14:07 |
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| johnthetubaguy | markus_z: oh thats good feedback, thats important at this point in time | 14:07 |
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| johnthetubaguy | #help please help with bug triage, lots of Open bugs without triage at this point | 14:08 |
| johnthetubaguy | I am thinking we consider the mitaka-rc-potential tag again, for possible release blockers | 14:08 |
| johnthetubaguy | but we are a little away from needing that I hope | 14:08 |
| johnthetubaguy | so back to the gate | 14:08 |
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| sdague | johnthetubaguy: right, nova was using 21 nodes on every check result. There are ~600 nodes available in the system. A 3 patch series consumes 10% of all test resources. a 10 patch series 1/3. | 14:09 |
| johnthetubaguy | sdague: I think there is a question about the v2.0 API jobs, I wonder if we can combine them with postres or something, or did we do that already? | 14:09 |
| sdague | johnthetubaguy: honestly, I just had them moved to experimental | 14:09 |
| sdague | because they did not seem to be finding anything beyond our functional tests | 14:09 |
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| johnthetubaguy | OK, thats fair enough | 14:09 |
| sdague | that takes us down to 19 | 14:10 |
| johnthetubaguy | I mean we can always run them on API patches we are worried about, so thats cool | 14:10 |
| johnthetubaguy | hmm, 19 still feels bad | 14:10 |
| sdague | they only test for legacy v2 regressions really | 14:10 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah | 14:10 |
| sdague | I proposed on the list to get rid of large-ops entirely (for reasons explained on mailing list) | 14:10 |
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| johnthetubaguy | is there a point where we get the foundation to help pay for more capacity for our CI, although I am sure we can be more efficient | 14:11 |
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| HenryG | Run it only on Sundays? | 14:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | OK, so I think this is an important topic, but lets take this offline | 14:12 |
| sdague | yep | 14:12 |
| sdague | that's fine | 14:12 |
| jroll | fwiw, foundation doesn't pay for CI capacity, it's donated | 14:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | #help need help reducing the number of nodes we use | 14:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | jroll: at the moment, yes | 14:12 |
| jroll | aha :) | 14:13 |
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| johnthetubaguy | jroll: I am thinking about doing both, but then I would said that :) | 14:13 |
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| jroll | yeah, I see you now | 14:13 |
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| johnthetubaguy | #topic Stuck Reviews | 14:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Stuck Reviews (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:13 | |
| johnthetubaguy | flip214: DRBD process question I think? | 14:14 |
| flip214 | johnthetubaguy: yes, but I guess we don't need to discuss that here | 14:14 |
| flip214 | with all the audience waiting. | 14:14 |
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| johnthetubaguy | flip214: to get DRBD merged, you need an approved blueprint, basically | 14:14 |
| flip214 | after the meeting in #-nova is good enough | 14:14 |
| johnthetubaguy | blueprint approval only lasts one release | 14:14 |
| johnthetubaguy | #link http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/process.html | 14:14 |
| johnthetubaguy | but yeah, lets talk specific in channel | 14:15 |
| flip214 | thanks | 14:15 |
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| flip214 | I'm done then | 14:15 |
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| johnthetubaguy | ping me there anytime I am around if there is a process question, happy to answer those quickly rather than waiting | 14:15 |
| johnthetubaguy | #topic Open | 14:15 |
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| johnthetubaguy | so there is a note about the get-me-a-network work neutron have been doing | 14:16 |
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| johnthetubaguy | jaypipes I think was saying he would find someone to work on the Nova side of this, now Neutron have an API ready for us | 14:16 |
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| johnthetubaguy | unless anyone else is keen | 14:16 |
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| johnthetubaguy | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/get-me-a-network | 14:17 |
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| johnthetubaguy | #help need folks to work on the Nova side of get-me-a-network | 14:17 |
| johnthetubaguy | so thats the end of the agenda | 14:17 |
| markus_z | I forgot to ask for help with the general bug skimming | 14:17 |
| markus_z | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/BugTriage#Weekly_bug_skimming_duty | 14:17 |
| markus_z | auggy did it already for 3 weeks and I'm in the hospital next week | 14:18 |
| dims | sdague : did we get relief from all the dhcp lease issues? | 14:18 |
| johnthetubaguy | markus_z: ah oops, I missed out the link before | 14:18 |
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| dims | i had stopped tracking :) | 14:18 |
| sdague | dims: I think we're under control there, I proposed backports today | 14:18 |
| bauzas | is the LRU thing fixed that ? I thought yes | 14:18 |
| sdague | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/278992/ | 14:18 |
| patchbot | sdague: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/278992/ - nova (stable/kilo) - Spread allocations of fixed ips | 14:18 |
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| dims | sdague : awesome thanks | 14:18 |
| cdent | johnthetubaguy: at the cross project meeting this week there was some discussion of getting nova involved in the general quota discussions that cinder and others are having | 14:19 |
| johnthetubaguy | sdague: we are still seeing a few ssh things? | 14:19 |
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| cdent | I was insufficiently informed to provided much but said I would relay the concern | 14:19 |
| sdague | johnthetubaguy: we are, it's massively reduced | 14:19 |
| johnthetubaguy | cdent: we did debate that quite a bit at the last summit | 14:19 |
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| sdague | and a bunch is on grenade, where we don't have these patches in stable yet | 14:19 |
| auggy | I don't mind continuing to help out bug skimming but as we still have 80+ bugs in new status it'd be great to have more eyes on things | 14:19 |
| johnthetubaguy | sdague: ah, nice, hence the backport, gotcha | 14:19 |
| bauzas | sdague: so the kilo patch is about helping the kilo jobs, right? | 14:20 |
| johnthetubaguy | auggy: +1 for more eyes | 14:20 |
| mriedem | bauzas: and liberty grenade | 14:20 |
| sdague | bauzas: it will help kilo and liberty (because grenade) | 14:20 |
| bauzas | oh right | 14:20 |
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| sdague | and liberty ... same thing | 14:20 |
| mriedem | sdague: i'll look at those backports this morning | 14:20 |
| sdague | mriedem: thanks | 14:20 |
| alaski | cdent: what is the thrust of those convos? | 14:20 |
| bauzas | for liberty, got it | 14:20 |
| johnthetubaguy | cdent: so I was super worried we were excluding the use case I cared about, but it seemed like its one I was making up | 14:20 |
| johnthetubaguy | cdent: I know cinder has some issues with their implementation, but was there other things | 14:20 |
| johnthetubaguy | ah, yeah, alaski's question basically | 14:21 |
| cdent | alaski: I don't know, it was a passing reference to long terms plans for quota a global thing | 14:21 |
| johnthetubaguy | oh, that... | 14:21 |
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| johnthetubaguy | cdent: if someone creates a quota system that actually works, then cool | 14:21 |
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| jroll | it's more about beginning the discussions about doing (nested) quotas well cross-project | 14:22 |
| johnthetubaguy | cdent: my current bet is on the resource claim logic basically doing the same thing | 14:22 |
| jroll | whether that turns into a library or "best practices" or a service is to be seen | 14:22 |
| alaski | I have an interest and would like to at least eavesdrop on the conversations, but I can't guarantee enough bandwidth to be useful there | 14:22 |
| cdent | Is there anyone in nova who wants to be a part of those discussions so that they proceed with effective inclusion of nova concerns? | 14:22 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, I am interested, but my bandwidth is was over full | 14:22 |
| jroll | here's the meeting logs if you want to catch up http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/crossproject/2016/crossproject.2016-02-09-21.01.log.html | 14:22 |
| alaski | jroll: thanks | 14:23 |
| johnthetubaguy | alaski that would be awesome, do you want to bring stuff back into this meeting I guess? | 14:23 |
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| alaski | sure, I can at least attempt that | 14:23 |
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| cdent | alaski I can keep you up to date on when/if it is on the cp agenda | 14:23 |
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| alaski | cdent: thanks | 14:23 |
| mriedem | in the cinder meeting yesterday they were talking about 4-byte unicode for volume names in their db, | 14:24 |
| mriedem | jaypipes brought that up in conversation at the midcycle | 14:24 |
| mriedem | so that's another cross-project thing that might be coming up | 14:24 |
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| sdague | I thought we supported that for names already, I even think there are tests | 14:24 |
| johnthetubaguy | are we just 2-byte or something? | 14:25 |
| mriedem | sdague: i don't think so, they said today cinder api returns a 500 b/c mysql doesn't handle it | 14:25 |
| sdague | mriedem: right, not by default | 14:25 |
| sdague | anyway, we can take it offline | 14:26 |
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| johnthetubaguy | yeah, lets take that offline | 14:26 |
| johnthetubaguy | it sounds like we are done now? | 14:26 |
| cdent | old-ish mysql can't do 4byte wide unicode without conf changes | 14:26 |
| johnthetubaguy | I think there were issues around glance migrations, if I remember, for similar things, not sure if that got fixed up | 14:27 |
| johnthetubaguy | but yes, I think we are done | 14:27 |
| johnthetubaguy | thanks all | 14:27 |
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| johnthetubaguy | you have half an hour extra for some reviews | 14:27 |
| johnthetubaguy | #endmeeting | 14:27 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Feb 11 14:27:44 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:27 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2016/nova.2016-02-11-14.01.html | 14:27 |
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| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2016/nova.2016-02-11-14.01.txt | 14:27 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2016/nova.2016-02-11-14.01.log.html | 14:27 |
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| jaypipes | sdague, mriedem, johnthetubaguy: honestly I don't care about 4-byte utf8. it's an edge case that is really unimportant to me. | 14:42 |
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| johnthetubaguy | jaypipes: is that like two piles of poo with extra stink lines? | 14:42 |
| jaypipes | johnthetubaguy: no, that's actually supported by utf-8 3-byte. | 14:43 |
| sdague | right, but chunks of CJK are not | 14:44 |
| sdague | which is why people do care about it for names | 14:45 |
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| johnthetubaguy | jaypipes: heh | 14:51 |
| johnthetubaguy | sdague: so needing it for CJK seems totally valid | 14:52 |
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| jaypipes | sdague: I don't doubt that. I just don't care much about it. just being honest. | 14:52 |
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| ildikov | #startmeeting ceilometer | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Feb 11 15:00:32 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ildikov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ceilometer' | 15:00 |
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| liusheng | hi | 15:01 |
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| ljxiash | hi | 15:02 |
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| sileht | o/ | 15:02 |
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| Guest65333 | \o/ | 15:02 |
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| cdent | /o\ | 15:02 |
| ildikov | _o_ | 15:03 |
| ljxiash | lol | 15:03 |
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| jd__ | O_- | 15:03 |
| cdent | orz | 15:03 |
| ildikov | ok, I guess we can start then :) | 15:04 |
| ildikov | #topic recurring: roadmap items (new/old/blockers) https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Telemetry/RoadMap | 15:04 |
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| ildikov | we have three weeks left until the freeze | 15:05 |
| liamji | o/ | 15:05 |
| _nadya_ | I'm doing POC about Redis for transformers cache. It's quite ready, I need someone to take a look | 15:06 |
| ildikov | does anyone have any new items we should dicuss? | 15:06 |
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| _nadya_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/276714/2 | 15:06 |
| patchbot | _nadya_: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/276714/ - ceilometer - [WIP] Add cache abstraction | 15:06 |
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| _nadya_ | also, I'd like to ask Rohit regarding https://review.openstack.org/#/c/218155/ | 15:07 |
| patchbot | _nadya_: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/218155/ - ceilometer-specs - Propose the removal of WSME from ceilometer and aodh | 15:07 |
| ildikov | _nadya_: I saw Gordon's comment on it | 15:07 |
| ljxiash | I have a spec. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/273475/ support collect instance port meters. | 15:07 |
| patchbot | ljxiash: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/273475/ - ceilometer-specs - Support collect neutron port meters | 15:07 |
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| ljxiash | patchbot: thanks. | 15:08 |
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| ildikov | _nadya_: do you want to have a discussion about the cache here or let's do that in the review? | 15:08 |
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| _nadya_ | ljxiash: we need +1 from neutron folks first, could you please ping the to review the new version? | 15:09 |
| _nadya_ | ildikov: I think, it would be better to do in review | 15:09 |
| ljxiash | _nadya_: yes, I can. | 15:09 |
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| ildikov | _nadya_: ok, cool | 15:10 |
| ildikov | _nadya_: reagrding the spec you linked, is the timing you wanted to discuss? | 15:10 |
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| _nadya_ | ildikov: what spec :)? | 15:12 |
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| _nadya_ | ildikov: ah, cdent's, yes | 15:12 |
| ildikov | ljxiash: do you plan this for Mitaka? | 15:12 |
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| ildikov | _nadya_: that one :) | 15:12 |
| _nadya_ | ildikov: I cannot imagine how much time it may require | 15:13 |
| ildikov | _nadya_: well, I'm not sure either, I think jd__ had dreams about removing WSME a while ago, maybe he has ideas :) | 15:14 |
| ildikov | cdent: any idea about how much time/effort would be that change? | 15:15 |
| jd__ | I think it's mostly cdent dream, but I still agree | 15:15 |
| ljxiash | ildikov: We plan to have this spec merged in Mitaka, then we upload the poc code, and finish it in N release. | 15:15 |
| cdent | I dream of it, but won't have any chance to do the work. I think rohit was getting interested in doing at least the aodh part. | 15:15 |
| cdent | It is probably quite a chunk of work. | 15:15 |
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| jd__ | yup | 15:15 |
| ildikov | jd__: ah, ok I didn't remember well then | 15:15 |
| cdent | I would guess that it would be a bit foolhardy to make it mitaka unless there is a devoted person. | 15:16 |
| ildikov | cdent: yeah, I got that part | 15:16 |
| jd__ | it might also be a good occasion to define a new version of the API though | 15:16 |
| ljxiash | ildikov: does this way work? | 15:16 |
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| jd__ | not sure porting for porting is worth it | 15:16 |
| ildikov | jd__: yeah, I had that thought as well | 15:16 |
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| ildikov | ljxiash: it's fine to finish it in the N-release | 15:17 |
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| ildikov | ljxiash: I wonder whether we opened the specs for Newton already, I will check | 15:17 |
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| ildikov | jd__: yeah, it might worth a design session if we consider API change as well | 15:18 |
| ildikov | especially as it seems to be a bit in risk for Mitaka from timing perspective | 15:18 |
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| ildikov | _nadya_: I think we will need to wait for Rohit's answer on the review, I'm a bit skeptic based on the brief discussion above | 15:20 |
| _nadya_ | ildikov: sure | 15:20 |
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| ildikov | anything else for blueprints? | 15:21 |
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| jd__ | a design session to define an API? I envy your optimism ildikov | 15:21 |
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| _nadya_ | jd__: +1 | 15:22 |
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| _nadya_ | jd__: Monasca+Ceilo ? | 15:22 |
| ildikov | jd__: at least to see whether we can use this WSME removal opportunity to smth else, than proting | 15:22 |
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| ildikov | jd__: but maybe I'm just too optimist :) | 15:23 |
| jd__ | _nadya_: what's the question? | 15:23 |
| ildikov | _nadya_: as a design session or new API? | 15:23 |
| jd__ | ildikov: yeah, I'm still waiting for someone to propose a new design :) | 15:23 |
| _nadya_ | I'm talking about Jay Pipes proposal | 15:24 |
| ildikov | jd__: :) | 15:24 |
| _nadya_ | Ceilometer and Monasca are both type:service projects that are both | 15:24 |
| _nadya_ | performing telemetry functionality in their REST APIs. The API WG should | 15:24 |
| _nadya_ | work with both communities to come up with a 6-12 month plan for | 15:24 |
| _nadya_ | creating a *single* OpenStack Telemetry REST API that both communities | 15:24 |
| _nadya_ | would be able to implement separately as they see fit. | 15:24 |
| jd__ | _nadya_: joker | 15:24 |
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| _nadya_ | :) | 15:25 |
| ildikov | _nadya_: a-ha, I missed it I think, although I would be surprised if there wasn't any proposal like this... | 15:25 |
| jd__ | we can nominate cdent, he is both in Telemetry and API-WG | 15:25 |
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| cdent | yeah, I'm also part of service catalog tng and the general consensus there is that overlapping implemenation of the same service is totally bonkers | 15:26 |
| ildikov | _nadya_: when did Jay propose this? | 15:26 |
| ildikov | _nadya_: just to see how much time we have left :) | 15:26 |
| _nadya_ | ildikov: subj is Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Proposal for having a service type registry and curated OpenStack REST API | 15:26 |
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| jaypipes | _nadya_: I need to write an email to gordon and roland to see what concrete steps we can take towards alignment of the REST API. | 15:27 |
| ildikov | _nadya_: cool, tnx, will check | 15:27 |
| jd__ | this is gonna be epic | 15:27 |
| jaypipes | _nadya_: nothing is gonna be done in a short time frame, don't worry ;) | 15:27 |
| jaypipes | jd__: drama queen :P | 15:27 |
| ildikov | jaypipes: I don't think either of us started worrying here :) | 15:27 |
| jd__ | lol | 15:27 |
| jaypipes | ildikov: :) | 15:28 |
| _nadya_ | jaypipes: I understand, just wanted to let Ceilo team about this :) | 15:28 |
| _nadya_ | know | 15:28 |
| ildikov | jd__: then it seems we will even have a joint session about API with Monasca :) | 15:28 |
| jd__ | why not | 15:29 |
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| _nadya_ | one more plea regarding specs: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/162167/ . JFYI, I think we will wait for POC from Igor first and I will merge this spec (if everything ok) | 15:29 |
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| ildikov | _nadya_: cool, sounds good | 15:30 |
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| ildikov | _nadya_: you can link the POC to the spec, when it's up to address concerns there if there is still any | 15:32 |
| _nadya_ | ildikov: ok | 15:32 |
| ildikov | cool | 15:32 |
| ildikov | anything else for specs or APIs? | 15:32 |
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| ildikov | ok, let's move to the next topic then | 15:33 |
| ildikov | #topic aodh topics | 15:33 |
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| ildikov | liusheng: do you have any updates or heads ups here? | 15:34 |
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| liusheng | hi ildikov, about the composite alarm, I will upload new patchset | 15:35 |
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| ildikov | liusheng: ok, cool | 15:35 |
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| liusheng | sorry, I am almost AFK of community works this week, because of Chinese new year :( | 15:35 |
| ildikov | liusheng: do you have any issues with it to raise or it goes well? | 15:35 |
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| liusheng | I need to address sileht's suggesion | 15:36 |
| ildikov | liusheng: yeah, I know, no problem | 15:36 |
| ildikov | liusheng: tnx for joining the meeting :) | 15:36 |
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| jd__ | liusheng: happy new year then :) | 15:37 |
| _nadya_ | happy new year! | 15:37 |
| liusheng | thanks :) | 15:37 |
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| ildikov | liusheng: and also happy new year :) | 15:38 |
| liusheng | and also, hope we can help to review the aodhclient's patches | 15:38 |
| liusheng | thanks | 15:38 |
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| ildikov | right, aodhclient patches: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/python-aodhclient+status:open | 15:40 |
| ildikov | anyone who has time please take a look ^^ | 15:40 |
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| ildikov | anything else for Aodh? | 15:40 |
| ildikov | #topic ceilometer topics | 15:41 |
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| ildikov | anything else for Ceilometer than what we discussed above? | 15:42 |
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| _nadya_ | yep, 1 sec | 15:42 |
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| _nadya_ | need more eyes for metadata caching patch #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/267078/10 | 15:43 |
| _nadya_ | ityaptin_ uses oslo cache there, I'm not an expert | 15:43 |
| ildikov | _nadya_: are there open questions regarding that one? | 15:44 |
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| ildikov | _nadya_: I mean what we would need to discuss explicitely | 15:45 |
| _nadya_ | ildikov: hmm...don't think so, may do it in review | 15:45 |
| ityaptin_ | ildikov: No questions from my side) it's under development now. But I will be grateful for review ) | 15:45 |
| liusheng | _nadya_: thanks for the change, I wonder whether that functionality can be easily disable/enable ? :-) | 15:45 |
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| ityaptin_ | liusheng: Yes | 15:46 |
| _nadya_ | liusheng: yep, it should be able to disable it | 15:46 |
| ildikov | ityaptin_: ok, cool, I saw it's in WIP I was just wondering whether there's anything we could move forward here | 15:46 |
| liusheng | _nadya_: cool | 15:46 |
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| ildikov | any other items to Ceilo? | 15:48 |
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| ildikov | #topic gnocchi topics | 15:49 |
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| _nadya_ | jfyi https://review.openstack.org/#/c/272644/2 | 15:49 |
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| ildikov | _nadya_: tnx | 15:50 |
| ildikov | jd__: sileht: have you seen the patch _nadya_ linked? ^^ | 15:51 |
| sileht | ildikov, +1 | 15:52 |
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| ildikov | sileht: cool | 15:53 |
| ildikov | jd__: sileht: any news about Gnocchi? | 15:53 |
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| ildikov | ok, I take it as a no, let's move on then :) | 15:55 |
| ildikov | #topic Open discussion | 15:56 |
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| ildikov | anything else we would need to discuss? | 15:56 |
| ildikov | you can advertise session proposals to vote on for instance ;) | 15:56 |
| cdent | boycot voting, it's marketing bullshit | 15:57 |
| ildikov | cdent: I know, we can vote on that too, I'm with you :) | 15:57 |
| ildikov | and with jd__ :) | 15:57 |
| ildikov | allright, it seems we're finished for today | 15:58 |
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| jd__ | ildikov: sorry, was afk :) | 15:58 |
| jd__ | Gnocchi 2.0 coming soon! | 15:59 |
| ildikov | jd__: \o/ :) | 15:59 |
| ildikov | jd__: you have half minute for more news if you have | 15:59 |
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| jd__ | I'll keep it for next week ;) | 16:00 |
| ildikov | ok, thanks for joining the meeting everyone | 16:00 |
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| ildikov | C U next week! :) | 16:00 |
| ildikov | jd__: cool ;) | 16:00 |
| ildikov | #endmeeting | 16:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Feb 11 16:00:42 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ceilometer/2016/ceilometer.2016-02-11-15.00.html | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ceilometer/2016/ceilometer.2016-02-11-15.00.txt | 16:00 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ceilometer/2016/ceilometer.2016-02-11-15.00.log.html | 16:00 |
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| dtroyer | #startmeeting openstackclient | 19:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Feb 11 19:01:12 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dtroyer. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstackclient' | 19:01 |
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| dtroyer | anyone here today? | 19:01 |
| stevemar | dtroyer: o/ | 19:01 |
| rtheis | o/ | 19:01 |
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| MeganR | o/ | 19:01 |
| MeganR | Hi, I would like to introduce Tom and Satheesh from the Walmart team! | 19:01 |
| dtroyer | courtesy ping: dhellmann, terrylhowe, lhcheng, dstanek | 19:01 |
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| brad_behle | o/ | 19:02 |
| dstanek | o/ | 19:02 |
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| dtroyer | Hi Tom and Satheesh! Say hi so we get your nicks | 19:02 |
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| tomjosekal | Hi All | 19:02 |
| Satheesh | Hi All.. | 19:02 |
| terrylhowe | o/ | 19:03 |
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| dtroyer | cool, a full house today! | 19:03 |
| dtroyer | #topic cliff | 19:03 |
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| stevemar | great to have more people :) | 19:04 |
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| dtroyer | I wanted to give a quick update on where cliff is ATM... | 19:04 |
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| dhellmann | o/ | 19:04 |
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| dtroyer | release 1.16.0 broke some things due to a change in argparse's allow_abbrev value | 19:04 |
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| dtroyer | besides changes in other places like DevStack, we reverted the default change in https://review.openstack.org/278781 | 19:05 |
| dtroyer | and I just added a simple test in https://review.openstack.org/279229 | 19:05 |
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| dtroyer | dhellmann: (I asked this in -release a few minutes ago)… so I am sure I understand semver, fixing a break like that is a point release, correct? | 19:06 |
| dtroyer | ie 1.16.1 | 19:06 |
| dhellmann | dtroyer : right, if the release only includes bug fixes it could be a point release. there's already a 1.17 release request up with a feature, I think | 19:06 |
| dhellmann | sorry, I've been on/off line today traveling so I didn't see your query earlier | 19:07 |
| dtroyer | ok, I didn't look for that | 19:07 |
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| dtroyer | np | 19:07 |
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| dtroyer | I'll go look at the 1.17 review and make sure the revert is included | 19:07 |
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| dtroyer | anything else on cliff? | 19:08 |
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| dtroyer | #topic openstackclient reviews | 19:08 |
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| dtroyer | I am guessing someone wants to talk about Jamie's namespace spec… | 19:09 |
| stevemar | dtroyer: sure :) | 19:09 |
| dtroyer | https://review.openstack.org/278782 | 19:09 |
| dtroyer | I just added my comments about 30 min ago | 19:09 |
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| dtroyer | tl;dr, I still don't like global namespacing, but want to change the idea a bit to lessen the impact on users | 19:10 |
| dtroyer | I left aliases out because I think they're a decent idea on their own and shouldn't get dragged into the namespace discussion | 19:11 |
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| stevemar | (back) | 19:11 |
| stevemar | yeah, i was a bit confused about why aliases were brought into the discussion | 19:12 |
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| dtroyer | it was for compatability | 19:12 |
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| dtroyer | I'm not fond of the idea of shipping aliases in the box though | 19:13 |
| stevemar | i don't like namespaces for the core services | 19:14 |
| stevemar | i think we can creatively work around that | 19:14 |
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| dtroyer | honestly I think spending some time naming resources makes a lot of this problem manageable | 19:15 |
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| stevemar | the extensions/plugins can create namespaces if they want | 19:15 |
| stevemar | yeah, i agree | 19:15 |
| stevemar | that goes back to the ML thread that sdague talked about | 19:16 |
| stevemar | we really need a central source of proejcts & resources | 19:16 |
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| dtroyer | are you talking about beyond what we do in OSC? | 19:16 |
| dtroyer | like the proposed service-type registry? | 19:16 |
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| dtroyer | ok, I expected more on this one ;) | 19:19 |
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| dtroyer | any other reviews that need attention? | 19:19 |
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| stevemar | there are a few nice ones out there that add network functionality | 19:20 |
| stevemar | tangchen and rtheis have been crushing it in that regard | 19:21 |
| dtroyer | I do wish they were a bit more aggregated ;) but yes, good stuff | 19:21 |
| stevemar | rtheis: i really liked your metaclass that handles the neutron and nova-net bits | 19:22 |
| rtheis | stevemar: thanks | 19:22 |
| rtheis | Things are a bit slow in check, so https://review.openstack.org/#/c/279058/ is still spinning | 19:22 |
| rtheis | hopefully that can close soon to unblock function test issue | 19:23 |
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| dtroyer | heh, I had not seen that one yet | 19:24 |
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| dtroyer | ok, this is going quietly… | 19:25 |
| dtroyer | #topic bugs | 19:25 |
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| dtroyer | how about bugs on anyone's mind? | 19:25 |
| Satheesh | Openstack Client Version: openstack 2.1.0 openstack quota show <project-id> ==> shows the nova ram/cores and neutron secgroup quota openstack limits show --project <project-id> --absolute ==> limits showing-up with the nova ram/cores usage/limits properly but not giving the exact usage/limits of neutron secgroup | 19:25 |
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| Satheesh | Probably the above comment came in single-line.. for clarity sending it again.. | 19:26 |
| Satheesh | Openstack Client Version: openstack 2.1.0 | 19:26 |
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| Satheesh | openstack quota show <project-id> ==> shows the nova ram/cores and neutron secgroup quota | 19:26 |
| Satheesh | openstack limits show --project <project-id> --absolute ==> limits showing-up with the nova ram/cores usage/limits properly but not giving the exact usage/limits of neutron secgroup | 19:26 |
| dtroyer | Satheesh: is that from an open bug? | 19:27 |
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| rtheis | openstack limits doesn't talk to neutron | 19:27 |
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| Satheesh | not seen any bug for it.. will double-check once again.. if there's no bug - will file one for it.. | 19:27 |
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| Satheesh | ok.. openstack quota - was getting the data from neutron... can't we try similar way for limits also? | 19:28 |
| dtroyer | ok. that is known, in that the common resources like quota and limits may not be wired up to Neutron yet as rthsaid | 19:28 |
| dtroyer | yes, it should do that | 19:29 |
| rtheis | searching for neutron limits API but not finding one... | 19:29 |
| Satheesh | yes.. neutron we don't have absolute-limits API.. | 19:30 |
| Satheesh | dtroyer, rtheis - can we file this as bug and work as an improvement for "openstack limits" ? | 19:31 |
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| dtroyer | yes, please do. | 19:32 |
| stevemar | Satheesh: absolutely, do you know how to open bugs in launchpad? | 19:32 |
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| stevemar | (that wasn't meant as sarcasm) | 19:32 |
| Satheesh | yes stevemar.. will open a bug for it today | 19:32 |
| stevemar | awesome :) | 19:32 |
| * dtroyer throws stevemar a towel | 19:33 | |
| dtroyer | any other bugs? | 19:33 |
| dtroyer | I do see a bunch for new commands that we generally track in blueprints... | 19:33 |
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| dtroyer | but, <shrug/> | 19:34 |
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| stevemar | dtroyer: i think tangchen and rtheis did that so they can more logically split things up | 19:34 |
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| rtheis | subnet pools was me ... I was following suit on other network stuff | 19:34 |
| rtheis | dtroyer: would you prefer just to use neutron-client blueprint? | 19:34 |
| dtroyer | that's fine. I find it easier to track command work with them all in one blueprint per resource | 19:35 |
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| dtroyer | but I'm not doing that much now, either | 19:35 |
| stevemar | rtheis: whatever is easier for you | 19:35 |
| dtroyer | in the beginning we did entire APIs in a single blueprint. for Network I don't think that's tenable, one per resource is where I would divide it | 19:35 |
| dtroyer | but, yeah, whatever you can manage best | 19:35 |
| rtheis | ok | 19:36 |
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| dtroyer | ok, if no other bugs… | 19:36 |
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| dtroyer | #topic open discussion | 19:36 |
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| dtroyer | what else is on our collective mind today? | 19:37 |
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| stevemar | we'll have to do one more release before we close shop for mitaka | 19:37 |
| dtroyer | said another way, we'll probably designate the next release as the token stable/mitaka branch ;) | 19:38 |
| rtheis | stevemar: do you have a timeline for this release | 19:38 |
| stevemar | i'd love to get a view on what percentage of projects are using OSC (and only OSC) | 19:38 |
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| stevemar | rtheis: http://releases.openstack.org/mitaka/schedule.html Feb 29-March4 (Final release for client libraries) | 19:38 |
| rtheis | stevemar: thanks | 19:39 |
| stevemar | rtheis: we're normally the last, since we depend on releases of all the other libraries :) | 19:39 |
| dtroyer | so there may actually be more than one release between now and then | 19:39 |
| rtheis | ok | 19:39 |
| stevemar | dtroyer: really? | 19:40 |
| stevemar | why? | 19:40 |
| dtroyer | why not? we decided to release more often last fall, then sat while the SDK work was completed | 19:40 |
| dtroyer | I liked the idea of releasing every other week or so | 19:40 |
| stevemar | dtroyer rtheis oh yeah -- thingee mentioned something earlier in the week, he's keen on getting cinder entirely moved over | 19:40 |
| stevemar | dtroyer: i tried to keep that up :[ | 19:40 |
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| dtroyer | the other extreme was cliff, sep 2015-feb 2016 is a long time ;) | 19:41 |
| thingee | yeah, I brought it up in the last cinder meeting. there is no one else stepping in to help me, yet | 19:41 |
| dtroyer | re cinder… have they scoped the amount of work there yet? | 19:41 |
| dtroyer | even just how many commands are missing or need new options? | 19:42 |
| * dtroyer is just curious | 19:42 | |
| thingee | dtroyer: not yet. That'll be the first thing I do | 19:42 |
| dtroyer | cool | 19:42 |
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| stevemar | dtroyer: in the "deprecate all clis" x-project spec, someone had it listed out | 19:42 |
| * thingee checks | 19:42 | |
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| thingee | http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/openstack-specs/specs/deprecate-cli.html | 19:43 |
| stevemar | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/243348/ | 19:43 |
| dtroyer | that's always going to be a moving target, but we can get close | 19:43 |
| stevemar | Walter A. Boring IV (hemna) Jan 13 11:59 AM | 19:43 |
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| dtroyer | oh, right, in the comments | 19:44 |
| thingee | stevemar: thanks | 19:44 |
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| stevemar | thingee: np | 19:44 |
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| dtroyer | anything else? | 19:45 |
| rtheis | nothing else here | 19:45 |
| stevemar | nada | 19:46 |
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| dtroyer | well alrighty then… | 19:47 |
| dtroyer | thanks everyone! | 19:47 |
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| dtroyer | #endmeeting | 19:47 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Feb 11 19:47:23 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:47 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstackclient/2016/openstackclient.2016-02-11-19.01.html | 19:47 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstackclient/2016/openstackclient.2016-02-11-19.01.txt | 19:47 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstackclient/2016/openstackclient.2016-02-11-19.01.log.html | 19:47 |
| stevemar | thanks dtroyer | 19:47 |
| rtheis | bye | 19:47 |
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| armax | ping | 21:59 |
| HenryG | o/ | 21:59 |
| armax | mestery, dougwig, carl_baldwin, HenryG, amotoki, kevinbenton | 22:00 |
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| armax | kevinbenton won’t be joining us | 22:00 |
| carl_baldwin | o/ | 22:00 |
| armax | though | 22:00 |
| mestery | o/ | 22:00 |
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| ihrachys | o/ | 22:00 |
| armax | #startmeeting neutron_drivers | 22:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Feb 11 22:00:22 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is armax. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 22:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 22:00 |
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| armax | ihrachys: rock on | 22:00 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_drivers' | 22:00 |
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| ihrachys | sleeping for the most part | 22:00 |
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| armax | ihrachys: have a redbull | 22:00 |
| mhickey | Hello | 22:00 |
| armax | mhickey: hello | 22:00 |
| armax | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/NeutronDrivers | 22:01 |
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| mestery | ihrachys: How can you sleep with excitement like this! | 22:01 |
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| armax | last two times we went over the list of approved RFE's | 22:01 |
| armax | we completed the list | 22:01 |
| armax | some are still in progress | 22:01 |
| armax | some were turned incomplete | 22:01 |
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| armax | no completed nor released | 22:02 |
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| armax | as members of this team we have three lists of bugs to go through | 22:04 |
| armax | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.tag=rfe | 22:04 |
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| armax | a list of RFE’s to get an initial screening and sanity check | 22:04 |
| carl_baldwin | Empty now, right? | 22:04 |
| armax | yes, I cleaned that up | 22:04 |
| armax | once you think the RFE is not asking for insanity and it’s well formulated | 22:04 |
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| armax | then move the bug to CONFIRMED | 22:04 |
| armax | the second list is | 22:05 |
| armax | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?field.status%3Alist=Confirmed&field.tag=rfe | 22:05 |
| HenryG | I see 18 there | 22:05 |
| armax | that’s a list of RFEs that need deeper screening, some prelimar discussion | 22:05 |
| armax | yup | 22:05 |
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| armax | when we feel like it’s ready for discussion during the meeting | 22:05 |
| armax | we can move those to TRIAGED | 22:06 |
| armax | then there’s the final list | 22:06 |
| armax | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?field.status%3Alist=Triaged&field.tag=rfe | 22:06 |
| armax | the one we usually go through the meeting, bike shed and rant on | 22:06 |
| armax | typically a bug can either go from rfe-approved or WONTFIX | 22:06 |
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| * armax figured I’d remind my buddies of the redtape from time to time | 22:07 | |
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| njohnston | I appreciate the review | 22:08 |
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| mhickey | me too | 22:08 |
| armax | you guys with me or are you already bored out of your mind? | 22:08 |
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| ihrachys | I actually even learned something new | 22:08 |
| carl_baldwin | With you. | 22:08 |
| armax | njohnston, mhickey this stuff should be captured in here: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/neutron/policies/blueprints.html | 22:08 |
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| carl_baldwin | Just tweaking book marks and taking copious notes. | 22:08 |
| mhickey | armax: ok, thanks | 22:08 |
| armax | mhickey: it may not exactly match word by word | 22:09 |
| armax | but mine is just the gist | 22:09 |
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| HenryG | I am looking starting with the oldest | 22:09 |
| HenryG | bug 1370033 | 22:09 |
| openstack | bug 1370033 in neutron "Admin should be able to manually select the active instance of a HA router" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1370033 - Assigned to Hong Hui Xiao (xiaohhui) | 22:09 |
| armax | yes, one more thing before we jump in | 22:09 |
| armax | #undo | 22:09 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: <ircmeeting.items.Link object at 0x982eb50> | 22:09 |
| mhickey | armax: fyi i have set some bugs to wishlist during the week | 22:09 |
| armax | #redo | 22:09 |
| armax | whatever | 22:09 |
| armax | mhickey: ack | 22:10 |
| mhickey | armax: I may have got it wrong! :) | 22:10 |
| armax | there’s a list of pending specs | 22:10 |
| armax | mhickey: that’s fine we’re here to help | 22:10 |
| armax | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/neutron-specs,n,z | 22:10 |
| armax | this list of the pending specs | 22:10 |
| armax | some of these may be associated to blueprints or RFE's | 22:10 |
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| armax | as members of this team we’re tasked to move these along | 22:10 |
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| armax | just as we move and shake and twist and scrub and squash the other lists | 22:11 |
| armax | you guys still with me? | 22:11 |
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| * carl_baldwin is | 22:11 | |
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| * HenryG too | 22:11 | |
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| armax | so, pretty please, take 30 to 60 mins out of working week to curate these lists | 22:12 |
| armax | it’s your duty as a driver | 22:12 |
| armax | if you can’t | 22:12 |
| * carl_baldwin was just pondering the difficulty in coordinating between launchpad and specs repo. | 22:12 | |
| armax | talk to me and we’ll figure something out | 22:12 |
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| * carl_baldwin has added it to L3 meeting to help curate. | 22:12 | |
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| armax | carl_baldwin: thanks | 22:12 |
| * carl_baldwin saying everything on his mind so armax knows he's here | 22:13 | |
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| armax | so this is the part where I either here: ‘lets’ blow the drivers team up’ or ‘armax I promise I’ll do better' | 22:13 |
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| armax | *hear | 22:13 |
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| ihrachys | blowing things is a always a great idea | 22:13 |
| armax | or the usual silence is the 3rd option :) | 22:13 |
| armax | I was not looking forward to | 22:13 |
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| armax | aaaaanyhow | 22:14 |
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| njohnston | I'm auditing the class, and my history is short, so I don't feel qualified to give an opinion. | 22:14 |
| njohnston | (just breaking the silence) | 22:15 |
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| armax | njohnston: thanks, I appreciate it | 22:15 |
| armax | ok, let’s dive in then | 22:15 |
| armax | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?field.status%3Alist=Triaged&field.tag=rfe | 22:15 |
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| HenryG | why is bug 1370033 stalled? | 22:16 |
| openstack | bug 1370033 in neutron "Admin should be able to manually select the active instance of a HA router" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1370033 - Assigned to Hong Hui Xiao (xiaohhui) | 22:17 |
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| armax | HenryG: it seems we’re unable to reach a consensus | 22:17 |
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| carl_baldwin | +1 | 22:17 |
| armax | I recall amuller rejected the design proposal | 22:17 |
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| armax | and albeit suboptimal, this use case can be tackled with external orchetration | 22:17 |
| armax | so it turned out to be deprioritieze | 22:18 |
| carl_baldwin | Yes, he questioned the need and that there were other, more user friendly, ways to accomplish what we needed. | 22:18 |
| armax | deprioritazed | 22:18 |
| carl_baldwin | *deprioritized | 22:18 |
| carl_baldwin | :) | 22:18 |
| HenryG | OK, so at this point in the cycle we say "punted to N" and move on to the next? | 22:18 |
| armax | carl_baldwin: thanks! | 22:18 |
| carl_baldwin | Are any of these up for Mitaka? | 22:19 |
| armax | HenryG: well, I’d argue this should be canned at this point | 22:19 |
| HenryG | carl_baldwin: that was my question too | 22:19 |
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| armax | if we don’t seem to agree or have the desire to reach closure, it’s best to mark it wontfix until priorities change | 22:19 |
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| armax | at that point the RFE can be resubmitted | 22:19 |
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| armax | and we can reassess should a strong operator push come from the field | 22:20 |
| HenryG | armax: ok, I think you, carl_baldwin and amuller are better to make that decision | 22:20 |
| carl_baldwin | armax: I agree. Won't fix. | 22:20 |
| armax | I am ready to finalize this | 22:20 |
| armax | this has been in the queue for a while | 22:20 |
| armax | next one | 22:20 |
| armax | bug 1507499 | 22:20 |
| openstack | bug 1507499 in neutron "Centralized Management System for testing the environment" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1507499 | 22:20 |
| armax | this has showed up in various shapes or forms | 22:21 |
| armax | there was another one that popped up recently | 22:21 |
| HenryG | That one is ongoing and it keeps getting bigger and bigger | 22:21 |
| armax | bug #1537686 | 22:21 |
| openstack | bug 1507499 in neutron "duplicate for #1537686 Centralized Management System for testing the environment" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1507499 | 22:21 |
| armax | so I decided to put it on the mid-cycle agenda | 22:21 |
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| armax | perhaps the f2f discussion may help us to get to the bottom of this | 22:21 |
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| armax | we can’t afford to ignore this for much longer | 22:21 |
| armax | something has to be done | 22:21 |
| armax | but at the same time we need to be realistic of what we can achieve given the circumstances | 22:22 |
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| carl_baldwin | Do we have people who want to work on this? | 22:23 |
| ihrachys | carl_baldwin: we have one in our team who is looking closely at the use case | 22:23 |
| armax | carl_baldwin: not sure yet, I recall assaf wanted to work on this area | 22:24 |
| ihrachys | carl_baldwin: our team == RH team | 22:24 |
| armax | not him directly | 22:24 |
| armax | but before we find volunteer we need to agree on a direction to be taken | 22:24 |
| armax | we can’t wind people around | 22:24 |
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| carl_baldwin | Right, we don't yet seem to agree on the direction. | 22:25 |
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| carl_baldwin | Do we need a spec? | 22:25 |
| ihrachys | I think yes | 22:25 |
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| armax | we’d need someone leading this obviously | 22:26 |
| armax | but at least we’d need some degree of consensus amongst ourselves that we have an handle on this | 22:27 |
| armax | before we set someone off the wrong path | 22:27 |
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| HenryG | There is a very long list of varying wishes in all the bugs that are duped to that. | 22:28 |
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| * carl_baldwin noticing the same thing | 22:28 | |
| armax | so formalizing that would be the first step | 22:29 |
| armax | and I think only a seasoned dude can do that | 22:29 |
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| carl_baldwin | Worth discussing at the mid-cycle? | 22:30 |
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| armax | I would think so | 22:30 |
| ihrachys | will there be any online access for mid-cycle discussions? | 22:30 |
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| armax | ihrachys: most of us will be on irc and we’ll have etherpads | 22:31 |
| ihrachys | ok, that's at least something | 22:31 |
| armax | we should be able to relay this stuff online | 22:31 |
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| armax | ok, let’s defer this to the mid-cycle with the objective to get closure on it at least from a direction point of view | 22:32 |
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| armax | dougwig, mestery: what do you reckon? | 22:32 |
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| mestery | That's a pretty big thing, do we really want to spend time on it at the mid-cycle? Or is it just making a decision on whether to move forward with it or not? | 22:33 |
| mestery | But yes | 22:33 |
| mestery | F2F would likely be the best way to move it forward as long as you have someone lined up for it armax | 22:34 |
| armax | we can carve out some time out of the agenda | 22:34 |
| mestery | ++ | 22:34 |
| carl_baldwin | How much time could we box it with at the mid-cycle? | 22:34 |
| armax | if we do some homework ahead of time | 22:34 |
| armax | a couple of hours should be enough to have at least something solid to present to the rest of the folks | 22:35 |
| armax | via ML or bug report or whatever | 22:35 |
| HenryG | it needs a passionate owner | 22:35 |
| mestery | HenryG: ++ | 22:35 |
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| ihrachys | HenryG: owner == implementer? | 22:35 |
| armax | HenryG: they don’t come that easily these days | 22:35 |
| armax | ihrachys: not necesserily | 22:35 |
| HenryG | armax: I know :( | 22:36 |
| armax | ihrachys: a capable implemeter and a wise advisor | 22:36 |
| armax | two owners | 22:36 |
| armax | anyhoo, time check | 22:36 |
| armax | bug 1521194 | 22:36 |
| openstack | bug 1521194 in neutron "Qos Aggregated Bandwidth Rate Limiting" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1521194 | 22:36 |
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| armax | I think this turned out to be a nonissue | 22:37 |
| ihrachys | IIRC it's a feature that depends on nova scheduler work | 22:37 |
| ihrachys | and the premise that qos currently misbehaves is wrong | 22:37 |
| ihrachys | so I would say, nothing we can do with it right now | 22:38 |
| armax | yes, that’s one way to put it | 22:38 |
| ihrachys | blocked by nova, and the new scheduler probably won't happen in a day | 22:38 |
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| armax | I suppose the resource allocation effort in Nova may help at some point | 22:39 |
| ihrachys | there's a hope, yes. | 22:39 |
| armax | to allow for a fairer b/w allocation, fairer as assumed by the submitter | 22:39 |
| armax | but as of now, we may just have to document the side effect of the existing implementation | 22:39 |
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| ihrachys | for now, we should table the proposal. on QoS front, we have a lot of passionate proposals but few passionate implementers. it may wait. | 22:39 |
| armax | or take this bug as a witness of that documentaiton | 22:40 |
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| armax | bug 1523222 | 22:40 |
| openstack | bug 1523222 in neutron "[RFE] Add LBaaSv2 TLS re-encryption to backend members" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1523222 - Assigned to Kobi Samoray (ksamoray) | 22:40 |
| armax | this may need dougwig guidance | 22:40 |
| armax | but it doesn’t look like dougwig is listening | 22:40 |
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| armax | the submitter is also MIA on other RFE's | 22:41 |
| armax | I’d mark incomple a move on | 22:41 |
| armax | if and when they want to revive they can do so | 22:41 |
| HenryG | sounds good to me | 22:41 |
| armax | too bad, but meh | 22:41 |
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| ihrachys | relax, you ain't a magician to make everything happen :) | 22:42 |
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| armax | ihrachys: I am super relaxed | 22:42 |
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| armax | :) | 22:42 |
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| armax | bug 1525059 | 22:43 |
| openstack | bug 1525059 in neutron "Add support for external vxlan encapsulation to neutron router" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1525059 | 22:43 |
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| dougwig | shit, calendar mismatch again. | 22:45 |
| armax | dougwig: here you are! | 22:45 |
| dougwig | 1523222 can be kicked out of mitaka. | 22:45 |
| armax | ack | 22:45 |
| armax | as for 1525059 it looks like the submitter has got an handle on things | 22:46 |
| armax | mestery: these guys work for you, correct? | 22:46 |
| carl_baldwin | Sounds like we want 1525059 we just need to know the details of how to make it happen. | 22:46 |
| ihrachys | re bug *059: makes sense. needs a spec. we seem to have a candidate for implementation in the comments. | 22:46 |
| armax | carl_baldwin: that’s right | 22:46 |
| mestery | armax: Aye | 22:46 |
| armax | we need to figure out how l3 and l3 get tied togetehr though | 22:46 |
| armax | so perhaps a full blown spec is indeed necessary | 22:46 |
| ihrachys | not sure I like the idea of l2 agent wiring interfaces for routers, but I may miss something. could be discussed in spec. | 22:46 |
| armax | ihrachys: that’s my concern | 22:47 |
| carl_baldwin | armax: Maybe a light spec will suffice | 22:47 |
| armax | carl_baldwin: indeed | 22:47 |
| mestery | Mostly I think the limitation of external networks requiring VLAN seems unnecessary | 22:47 |
| armax | we need to make sure that, at least from a modelling point of view, this can work with or withour agents | 22:47 |
| carl_baldwin | armax: ++ | 22:47 |
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| armax | mestery: would your dudes still push for the agent-based solutions? | 22:47 |
| armax | or have they abandoned that route? | 22:48 |
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| mestery | armax: For the L3 agent? We'd have to, right? | 22:48 |
| armax | mestery: ack | 22:48 |
| armax | ok, let’s get this nudged in | 22:48 |
| armax | all in favor? | 22:48 |
| mestery | coolio | 22:48 |
| mestery | ++ | 22:48 |
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| ihrachys | + | 22:48 |
| armax | bug 1527671 | 22:49 |
| openstack | bug 1527671 in neutron "[RFE]Neutron QoS Priority Queuing rule" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1527671 | 22:49 |
| armax | has anyone given this any thought? | 22:49 |
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| armax | ihrachys, ajo perhaps? | 22:49 |
| njohnston | I am not really clear on how this differs from the Assured Forwarding use case built in to DSCP | 22:49 |
| armax | or shall this bake a teeny tad longer? | 22:49 |
| njohnston | I will ask davidsha tomorrow | 22:49 |
| armax | njohnston: that’s a good point | 22:49 |
| armax | you should do so on teh bug report | 22:50 |
| njohnston | will do | 22:50 |
| armax | njohnston: thanks | 22:50 |
| armax | bug 1529109 | 22:50 |
| openstack | bug 1529109 in neutron "[RFE] Security groups resources are not extendable" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1529109 - Assigned to Roey Chen (roeyc) | 22:50 |
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| armax | the fix for this looks incredibly trivial | 22:50 |
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| armax | but the implications are nonetheless remarkable | 22:50 |
| armax | sc68cal, kevinbenton and I had reserves on how the proposal was made | 22:51 |
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| armax | the implication is that, if we allow this in, we can extend the secgroup extension freely | 22:52 |
| armax | and that’s been an area of contention and lack of consensus ever since the inception of this work | 22:52 |
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| dougwig | why would we not want to allow it to be extended? | 22:53 |
| armax | because pontentially vendors can come in and add properties to the API to do security stuff their own way without following the path of fwaas or a more community driven approach | 22:53 |
| dougwig | ahh, so it's about common abstraction across backends? | 22:54 |
| armax | on the other end, secgroups has always been an amazon thing which we wanted to stay as close as possible | 22:54 |
| armax | dougwig: yup | 22:54 |
| armax | having said that | 22:54 |
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| ihrachys | armax: but we allow it for other resource types? | 22:54 |
| armax | if we do prevent such extension mechanism to go in | 22:54 |
| armax | ihrachys: yes we do | 22:54 |
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| armax | then we’d have difficulty having a consistent experience for things like tags or timestamps or notational attributes that should apply to all resourecs | 22:55 |
| armax | these overlay pretty orthogonally on the API and are innocuous because are really backend agnostic | 22:56 |
| armax | my suggestion would be to figure out a way to allow this in a controlled fashion | 22:56 |
| armax | thoughts? | 22:56 |
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| ihrachys | I believe since we already have extensions for all resources, we should at least be consistent in having them for all resources. | 22:57 |
| armax | I’ll leave you guys a few minutes to formulate your opinion | 22:57 |
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| ihrachys | not that I like extensions too much, but hey, closing a single hole in your API consistency does not help if you have a hundred others. | 22:57 |
| armax | perhaps you can express it on the bug reprt | 22:57 |
| armax | ihrachys: I hear you | 22:58 |
| armax | last one in the list | 22:58 |
| armax | bug 1539717 | 22:58 |
| openstack | bug 1539717 in neutron "Add F5 plugin driver to neutron-lbaas" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1539717 - Assigned to Jeffrey Longstaff (j-longstaff) | 22:58 |
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| armax | this seems straightforward enough | 22:58 |
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| dougwig | has to reference an open source package, have a third party ci, and be a shim. should be straightforward. | 22:58 |
| armax | dougwig: cool | 22:58 |
| armax | so it’s a matter to provide design guidelines | 22:59 |
| armax | to how to contribute the code | 22:59 |
| armax | but it’s ready to roll | 22:59 |
| armax | ok! | 22:59 |
| armax | I’ll clean this list according to this discussion | 22:59 |
| armax | please help feeding the triaged list for next week’s discusision | 23:00 |
| armax | #endmeeting | 23:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Feb 11 23:00:04 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 23:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2016/neutron_drivers.2016-02-11-22.00.html | 23:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2016/neutron_drivers.2016-02-11-22.00.txt | 23:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2016/neutron_drivers.2016-02-11-22.00.log.html | 23:00 |
| armax | thanks and have a good one | 23:00 |
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| armax | ihrachys: you did well | 23:00 |
| carl_baldwin | armax: Thanks. | 23:00 |
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| armax | ihrachys: enjoy your deserved sleep | 23:01 |
| armax | ihrachys: btw ping me tomorrow morning | 23:01 |
| armax | ihrachys: I want to talk to you about -plus | 23:01 |
| ihrachys | armax: whose morning | 23:01 |
| armax | or pus | 23:01 |
| armax | or whatever | 23:01 |
| armax | mine | 23:01 |
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| armax | I shall be early tomorrow | 23:01 |
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