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sdake | morning | 08:27 |
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ddeja | #startmeeting HA | 08:59 |
openstack | Meeting started Mon Feb 8 08:59:15 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ddeja. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:59 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 08:59 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ha' | 08:59 |
ddeja | Hello all | 08:59 |
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masahito | Hi | 08:59 |
kazuIchikawa | hi | 09:00 |
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bogdando | hi | 09:01 |
ddeja | Ok, lets start with a quick status | 09:01 |
_gryf | hi | 09:01 |
ddeja | #topic Quick status report | 09:01 |
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ddeja | My status: I have prepared two workflows for instance HA, both can be seen on https://github.com/gryf/mistral-evacuate | 09:02 |
ddeja | For one of them, I have hit a bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/mistral/+bug/1535295 | 09:02 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1535295 in Mistral "Task with join runs more than once" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Dawid Deja (dawid-deja-0) | 09:02 |
ddeja | That's all from my side | 09:03 |
ddeja | masahito: are you willing to give a report? | 09:03 |
masahito | The patch for enabling masakari to work on pacemaker-remote was merged. | 09:04 |
ddeja | That's great | 09:04 |
masahito | And some bug fixs were also merged. | 09:04 |
masahito | That's from my side. | 09:05 |
ddeja | #info patch for enabling masakari to work on pacemaker-remote was merged. | 09:05 |
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ddeja | Ok, cool. Anyone else have something to report? | 09:05 |
bogdando | I have one announce | 09:05 |
beekhof | hey guys | 09:06 |
masahito | beekhof: hi | 09:06 |
bogdando | new ha guide docs time was assigned. Next meeting is at Feb 10, 17:00 UTC, don't hesitate to participate and add agenda items https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/HA_Guide_Update#Next_Meeting | 09:06 |
ddeja | hi beekhof :) | 09:06 |
bogdando | hi | 09:06 |
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ddeja | OK, thanks bogdando | 09:07 |
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ddeja | I think we are done in status reports | 09:08 |
ddeja | #topic Mistral Workflow for instance HA | 09:08 |
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bogdando | Should we open a nova-client bug related to the bug 1535295 as well? Like it shall not throw errors on the second evacuate request arrival? | 09:08 |
openstack | bug 1535295 in Mistral "Task with join runs more than once" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1535295 - Assigned to Dawid Deja (dawid-deja-0) | 09:08 |
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ddeja | I think it's an expected behaviour | 09:09 |
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ddeja | I was rather thinkig about catching the exception | 09:09 |
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ddeja | as a workaround | 09:10 |
beekhof | can i ask how this workflow... works :) | 09:10 |
ddeja | yup, sure | 09:11 |
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beekhof | eg. when is filter_vm_action.py called? | 09:11 |
ddeja | beekhof: you are looking at code on master branch, aren't you? | 09:11 |
beekhof | yep | 09:12 |
ddeja | ok, so let me strart with explaining this workflow | 09:12 |
ddeja | It starts with calling nova.servers.list() in nova python client | 09:12 |
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ddeja | nova.servers_list is a wrapper for python client | 09:12 |
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beekhof | oh, i see the yaml now | 09:13 |
ddeja | then it calls filter_vm_action | 09:13 |
beekhof | this is rather neat | 09:13 |
beekhof | i can see the attraction | 09:13 |
ddeja | yup, it's very simple | 09:13 |
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ddeja | Right now I'm thinkig about adding some action that would check if evacuation succeeded | 09:14 |
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ddeja | also, if you change the branch, there is another workflow, that separete filtering and asking nova for flavors | 09:15 |
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beekhof | interesting | 09:16 |
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ddeja | I thinks it's better since in approach no 2, there would be less nova calls | 09:16 |
masahito | the branch looks changing the workflow depending on the extra_spec. | 09:16 |
masahito | looks interesting. | 09:16 |
beekhof | whats the advantage of splitting them up? | 09:16 |
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ddeja | masahito: oh, asking for flavor_extra_spec should also happen in first approach, I'll fix that :) | 09:17 |
ddeja | beekhof: less calls to nova API | 09:17 |
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masahito | I guess it allows admin to define extra_spec attached to evacuated VMs. | 09:18 |
ddeja | masahito: There are two ways of determing if given VM should be evacuated | 09:18 |
ddeja | 1. It has flavor with extra spec 'evacuation:evacuate' set to True | 09:19 |
ddeja | 2. VM itself has a metadata with 'evacuate' flag set to True | 09:19 |
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ddeja | I should've write it in repo... | 09:19 |
bogdando | ddeja, could you please put that to the README as well? | 09:19 |
bogdando | yup, read my minds | 09:20 |
ddeja | bogdando: :) | 09:20 |
ddeja | I'll do it as soon as meeting ends | 09:20 |
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masahito | ddeja: sounds nice! | 09:21 |
bogdando | this looks really simple and neat, indeed. So what do you think about the final solution? | 09:21 |
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bogdando | like that PoC + fence agent? | 09:21 |
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ddeja | So from my side the most simple scenario is: this workflow + really simple fence agent that only calls Mistral API | 09:22 |
bogdando | like to post the YAML? | 09:23 |
ddeja | not really - yaml file should be loaded first and is in DB | 09:23 |
bogdando | ah | 09:23 |
ddeja | you only call it by it's name and provide input argiments | 09:23 |
ddeja | arguments* | 09:23 |
bogdando | I like that idea | 09:24 |
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ddeja | #action ddeja to write simple fence agent that will call mistral API | 09:24 |
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bogdando | and this to be put into the fence topology perhaps | 09:24 |
ddeja | yup | 09:24 |
beekhof | i like it as the mechanism for performing the evacuation, but i can also see scope for some of the masakari pieces for deciding when to trigger it | 09:25 |
ddeja | beekhof: yes, Masakari may call the workflow instead of fence agent | 09:25 |
bogdando | we could use it as a "fallback fence level", if Mistral fails ) | 09:25 |
beekhof | one thing though... i like the concept, but how well does it handle corner cases? | 09:25 |
bogdando | so it may be a topology like that: 1) first try Mistral flow, 2)then try the masakari, 3)fence the node | 09:26 |
beekhof | thats the key thing | 09:26 |
ddeja | bogdando: you need to have node fenced before you call evacuate | 09:26 |
ddeja | It's a post-mortem process, when node is dead | 09:26 |
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bogdando | ddeja, I see, then it probably cannot fit the classic fence topos | 09:27 |
ddeja | and we can be sure that there won't be two VMs writing to same storage | 09:27 |
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ddeja | bogdando: It can, we can have fencing topology like 1) fence node; evacuate VMS (call mistral) | 09:27 |
ddeja | beekhof: Which corner cases do you mean? | 09:28 |
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bogdando | at the one level? yes, that should work | 09:28 |
beekhof | mistral nodes falling over while a workflow is in progress | 09:28 |
bogdando | though, I may have forget details | 09:28 |
beekhof | services APIs dropping in and out while a workflow is in progress | 09:28 |
beekhof | etc | 09:28 |
ddeja | beekhof: That's a problem with Mistral, unfortunetly | 09:29 |
beekhof | nodes returning while a WFIIP | 09:29 |
beekhof | exactly | 09:29 |
ddeja | there is a blueprint for Mistral HA itself | 09:29 |
ddeja | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/mistral/+spec/mistral-ha-spec | 09:30 |
masahito | ddeja: Does Mistral plan to resolve it in Mitaka? | 09:30 |
ddeja | that should be done for M3 | 09:30 |
beekhof | the design is beautiful, but it comes down to the suitability of mistral itself | 09:30 |
ddeja | so for Mitaka there would be spec for what needs to be done | 09:30 |
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ddeja | and for N release mistral team would be working on resolving it | 09:31 |
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ddeja | beekhof: so asking your question: It is not fully relailable now | 09:32 |
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bogdando | Do we have a spec for this initiative, to reflect alternatives and decisions made here?.. | 09:32 |
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beekhof | so the big question for me is: how long until it is, and can we wait that long? | 09:33 |
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ddeja | bogdando: I'm not sure if I understand correctly. Do you mean if we have a spec for using Mistral Workflow for instance evacuate? | 09:34 |
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bogdando | ddeja just a spec for instance evacuate | 09:34 |
ddeja | so there is this spec | 09:34 |
ddeja | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/mistral/+spec/mistral-ha-spec | 09:35 |
ddeja | not this one... | 09:35 |
ddeja | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/257809/ | 09:35 |
ddeja | sorry | 09:35 |
ddeja | this one | 09:35 |
bogdando | thank you | 09:35 |
ddeja | but I'm not the subbmiter | 09:35 |
ddeja | beekhof: I don't know if we can wait that long | 09:36 |
bogdando | we can make this cionfigurable, how long to wait and to which option failback | 09:36 |
beekhof | ddeja: i somewhat suspect that too | 09:37 |
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ddeja | current scenario is to have Mistral HA for N relase, so it will be like 8 months | 09:37 |
bogdando | assuming 100% reliable things would be a design flaw :) | 09:37 |
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bogdando | that is why they use fence topologies AFAICT | 09:38 |
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beekhof | ddeja: TBH, i'd be surprised if 8 months is all that was needed | 09:38 |
bogdando | so perhaps we should do the like | 09:38 |
bogdando | and think of Mistral flow and masakari as just two fence agents | 09:38 |
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bogdando | to co-exist and help each over to cover more fail modes | 09:39 |
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ddeja | bogdando: The problem is that we can, for exmaple call mistral from fence_agent | 09:40 |
ddeja | and got OK as a reponse | 09:40 |
bogdando | let's make fence agent to verify results before rerutning its own OL | 09:40 |
ddeja | but it only means that Mistral accepted the request | 09:40 |
bogdando | OK | 09:40 |
ddeja | and in fence agents, we can't wait for the result | 09:40 |
bogdando | by a given timeout | 09:40 |
bogdando | Why can't we? | 09:41 |
bogdando | all agents have things like power timeout to wait for results | 09:41 |
bogdando | here is the same | 09:41 |
beekhof | you're blocking recovery | 09:41 |
ddeja | because fencing frezes the whole cloud, if I remember correctly | 09:41 |
bogdando | oh, why?.. | 09:41 |
beekhof | which might be the bit that is needed for the workflow to complete | 09:41 |
beekhof | == deadlock | 09:42 |
bogdando | well, we could run all evacuate options in parallel in the hope of the idempotance and immutability | 09:42 |
bogdando | I mean using both Mistral and masakari based fence agents to ensure results... Makes sense?.. | 09:44 |
bogdando | And leave operators options to decide which agent to go with | 09:44 |
bogdando | It is better to have more options | 09:44 |
ddeja | maybe it's the way to go... | 09:45 |
bogdando | I'm not sure about implementation details, but from design point I see no issues here | 09:45 |
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ddeja | on the other hand, there was a discussion to use Masakari to call Mistral workflows | 09:45 |
bogdando | evacuation request must be idempotent and immutable for any agents acting | 09:45 |
ddeja | since Mistral is not HA, maybe Masakari can look if evacuation ended succesfully, and if not call Mistral API again? | 09:46 |
ddeja | but that's just an idea | 09:46 |
bogdando | good point as well | 09:47 |
masahito | bogdando: you means we make notification interface from monitoring process will be same between mistral workflow and masakari. | 09:47 |
bogdando | masahito, yes, monitoring should understand competing agents | 09:47 |
bogdando | or retries, if agents are kinda "nested" and masakari retries Mistral | 09:48 |
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masahito | ddeja: just question. Can Mistral execute evacuate action in paralell? | 09:48 |
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masahito | bogdando: got it. | 09:49 |
ddeja | masahito: yes. If we have like 5 VMs to evacuate, there would be 5 request running in paralell | 09:49 |
bogdando | that was only my point though, we should think of it and suggest to the spec perhaps... | 09:49 |
masahito | ddeja: thanks. | 09:50 |
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ddeja | masahito: but to be sure - you call mistral only once. The paralelism is done inside the mistral engine :) | 09:51 |
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ddeja | OK, I guess with this topic, we have a few minutes for open discussion | 09:53 |
ddeja | #topic Open discussion | 09:53 |
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masahito | I think we should discuss the detail in some where without IRC meeting. | 09:53 |
masahito | because TL will flow. | 09:54 |
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ddeja | masahito: I agree, but it will be good to wait till aspiers come back from vacation | 09:55 |
masahito | ddeja: right. | 09:55 |
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kazuIchikawa | another topic, we are working on sqlalchemy support of masakari. Is there any database backend you mind to use other than MySQL? | 09:57 |
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ddeja | kazuIchikawa: postgres | 09:57 |
_gryf | kazuIchikawa, postgresql is also a popular choice | 09:57 |
kazuIchikawa | ddeja: got it | 09:57 |
ddeja | most of OpenStack deploments is on postgressql or mysql | 09:57 |
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ddeja | ok, we are running out of time | 09:59 |
ddeja | thanks you all for productive meeting and see you next week :) | 09:59 |
masahito | bye | 09:59 |
ddeja | bye | 09:59 |
_gryf | cu | 09:59 |
kazuIchikawa | bye | 10:00 |
ddeja | #endmeeting | 10:00 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Mon Feb 8 10:00:20 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 10:00 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ha/2016/ha.2016-02-08-08.59.html | 10:00 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ha/2016/ha.2016-02-08-08.59.txt | 10:00 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ha/2016/ha.2016-02-08-08.59.log.html | 10:00 |
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rvasilets_ | #startmeeting Rally | 14:08 |
openstack | Meeting started Mon Feb 8 14:08:24 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rvasilets_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:08 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:08 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Rally)" | 14:08 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'rally' | 14:08 |
ikhudoshyn | o/ | 14:08 |
rvasilets_ | Hi there | 14:08 |
redixin | sup | 14:09 |
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rvasilets_ | I see that there is not s lot of topics in Rally agenda | 14:09 |
ikhudoshyn | ф сщгзду фе дуфые | 14:09 |
rvasilets_ | okey lets start | 14:10 |
andreykurilin | o/ | 14:10 |
ikhudoshyn | a couple at least | 14:10 |
ikhudoshyn | sry | 14:10 |
rvasilets_ | #topic Current state of Rally gate jobs -- testing against Keystone API v2.0 and v3 | 14:10 |
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andreykurilin | ikhudoshyn: ^ | 14:10 |
andreykurilin | :) | 14:10 |
rvasilets_ | So ikhudoshyn, share with us | 14:10 |
ikhudoshyn | So I'd like to officially notify everybody that our gate tests that involve devstack.. | 14:11 |
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ikhudoshyn | all run against Keystone API v3 (the job file is located @ rally-jobs/rally.yaml) except one dedicated job gate-rally-dsvm-keystone-v2api-rally | 14:12 |
ikhudoshyn | The latter runs against v2 api and it runs a task from rally-jobs/rally-keystone-api-v2.yaml | 14:13 |
ikhudoshyn | Rally-CI is yet untouched | 14:14 |
rvasilets_ | Will we have the problems if devstack default keystone version would be switched? | 14:14 |
ikhudoshyn | we should agree on whether we'd move it to v3 as well (I beleiwe we should) | 14:14 |
ikhudoshyn | *believe* | 14:14 |
rvasilets_ | redixin, previously told that he want to move to v3 | 14:15 |
rvasilets_ | if i'm right | 14:15 |
rvasilets_ | redixin, ^ any comments) | 14:15 |
andreykurilin | it is not possible for all jobs of rally-ci | 14:15 |
ikhudoshyn | rvasilets_: not really. Default Keystone API version is selected via corresponfding env variable -- exactly what is used on gates | 14:15 |
ikhudoshyn | andreykurilin: y? | 14:16 |
andreykurilin | mos job can be broken due to keystone v3 | 14:16 |
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andreykurilin | but this is just a guess | 14:17 |
ikhudoshyn | andreykurilin: that's ok -- with mos job we should use what mos uses | 14:17 |
redixin | I told? o_O | 14:17 |
ikhudoshyn | andreykurilin: it is still v2.0 api, right? | 14:17 |
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andreykurilin | ikhudishyn: as far as I remember - yes | 14:18 |
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ikhudoshyn | so for that job we'd keep 2.0 | 14:18 |
ikhudoshyn | I actually mean devstack-related jobs | 14:19 |
andreykurilin | :) | 14:19 |
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ikhudoshyn | rvasilets_: could we action-item this? | 14:20 |
ikhudoshyn | what's the command | 14:20 |
ikhudoshyn | ? | 14:20 |
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rvasilets_ | #agreed Leaft mos jobs in rally-ci against v2.0 | 14:21 |
rvasilets_ | #agreed Left mos jobs in rally-ci against v2.0 | 14:21 |
ikhudoshyn | #agreed Move devstack-based jobs in rally-ci to v3 | 14:21 |
rvasilets_ | Yes, great | 14:22 |
rvasilets_ | Anything else? | 14:22 |
ikhudoshyn | that's all from my side | 14:22 |
rvasilets_ | okey | 14:22 |
ikhudoshyn | yr turn | 14:22 |
rvasilets_ | #topic About changing coverage script behaviour | 14:22 |
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rvasilets_ | Currently our coverage script unstash stashed files and this is annoying to me | 14:23 |
rvasilets_ | If I finished to work on patch and want just to check coverage and quickly send it to review | 14:24 |
rvasilets_ | trough tox add -u; tox commit --amend; tox review; | 14:24 |
ikhudoshyn | s/tox/git/ | 14:25 |
rvasilets_ | I could send to review accidentally stashed files | 14:25 |
rvasilets_ | that is not what I expect | 14:25 |
rvasilets_ | oh yes | 14:25 |
redixin | it should check diff between your patch and master | 14:25 |
rvasilets_ | git | 14:25 |
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rvasilets_ | we have some magoc in script with stash https://github.com/openstack/rally/blob/master/tests/ci/cover.sh#L25 | 14:26 |
rvasilets_ | could we avoid it? | 14:26 |
rvasilets_ | For Example not to гыу stash фе ше? | 14:27 |
redixin | it can refuse to do anything if there is uncommitted changes | 14:27 |
rvasilets_ | *at it | 14:27 |
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ikhudoshyn | redixin: +1 that would be nice | 14:27 |
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rvasilets_ | Why we can't just to checkout to previous patch and check difference | 14:28 |
redixin | I just wonder why do you have uncommited changes when calling tox -ecover | 14:28 |
rvasilets_ | because I want | 14:28 |
ikhudoshyn | oh, wait | 14:28 |
rvasilets_ | this is my decision at other patch | 14:28 |
ikhudoshyn | stash - is exactly the place to put uncommitted stuff | 14:29 |
redixin | we can't just checkout to master without stashing uncommited changes | 14:29 |
redixin | because it may affect coverage results | 14:29 |
redixin | and it will | 14:29 |
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rvasilets_ | we could have invariant that you need to run cover only if you commit all changes to this patch | 14:30 |
rvasilets_ | It is more obvious | 14:30 |
rvasilets_ | than current version | 14:31 |
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redixin | so script should show error instead of stashing? | 14:31 |
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rvasilets_ | for example | 14:31 |
rvasilets_ | or warning before | 14:31 |
stpierre | i like that -- the stashing functionality seems like hidden magic | 14:31 |
ikhudoshyn | not sure | 14:31 |
ikhudoshyn | the right algo would be.. | 14:31 |
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rvasilets_ | I suggest to run cover agains patches that don't have stash as invariant | 14:32 |
ikhudoshyn | stash - checkout base - run -checkout yr commit- run - compare - unstash | 14:32 |
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rvasilets_ | and not to touch stash at the script | 14:32 |
rvasilets_ | hi stpierre | 14:32 |
rvasilets_ | Current;y we hacve following invariant that if we have stash that its files from current patch | 14:33 |
rvasilets_ | I suggest to change it | 14:33 |
ikhudoshyn | rvasilets_: that'd be very tough restriction to work process | 14:34 |
rvasilets_ | If we have stash | 14:34 |
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ikhudoshyn | rvasilets_: let's rephrase | 14:34 |
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rvasilets_ | that this is files from not necessarily сгккуте зфеср | 14:34 |
rvasilets_ | *current patch | 14:34 |
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ikhudoshyn | I propose: we don't run cover if there are uncommitted AND unstashed files. And we remove stashing from cover | 14:35 |
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ikhudoshyn | so if you have files you dont want to commit -- you stash it yourself manually and then run cover | 14:36 |
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stpierre | agree | 14:36 |
redixin | I can't see any problems here. This script doe's not any stashing if there is no uncommitted changes. If you don't want it to stash, so just stash all by yourself | 14:37 |
stpierre | less magic, more explicit. i think it's reasonable to expect that precondition to run cover | 14:37 |
ikhudoshyn | redixin: on the contrary. If there are uncommitted changes -- cover stashes them | 14:37 |
ikhudoshyn | that's the problem | 14:37 |
rvasilets_ | But what I need to do If I have stash from other patch and want to run cover? | 14:38 |
ikhudoshyn | you can have several stashes. it's ok | 14:38 |
rvasilets_ | I can't finish my work on other patch immediately | 14:38 |
redixin | this script will unstash all for you | 14:39 |
ikhudoshyn | redixin: that's exactly what we try to avoid | 14:39 |
ikhudoshyn | like, we don't want automagic -- we'd better controll it manually | 14:40 |
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redixin | it will not unstash all, but only what has been stashed | 14:40 |
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redixin | ok just file the bug | 14:41 |
ikhudoshyn | I change my mind ) | 14:42 |
rvasilets_ | uh, okey. redixin looks like this is the most compromise way | 14:42 |
ikhudoshyn | for me it works fine) | 14:42 |
ikhudoshyn | rvasilets_: just "don't hold it that way" | 14:42 |
ikhudoshyn | )) | 14:42 |
rvasilets_ | Okey | 14:43 |
rvasilets_ | #agreed I will file the bug about coverage | 14:43 |
rvasilets_ | Lets move further? | 14:43 |
rvasilets_ | Anything to add7 | 14:44 |
ikhudoshyn | rvasilets_: while filing the bug pls add details, so we be sure to get yr point right | 14:44 |
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ikhudoshyn | do we have any "further" ? | 14:44 |
rvasilets_ | #topic Open Discussion | 14:44 |
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rvasilets_ | Do we have something to discuss? | 14:45 |
redixin | yes | 14:45 |
redixin | heat siege workload ) | 14:45 |
redixin | can it be merged? | 14:46 |
rvasilets_ | ) | 14:46 |
rvasilets_ | I was working at weekend at the unit tests magic. I should be green now | 14:46 |
rvasilets_ | yep its green | 14:47 |
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redixin | great | 14:47 |
rvasilets_ | I'll review it more detailed now I think that the finale vote would be from Boris) | 14:48 |
rvasilets_ | am I right?) | 14:48 |
rvasilets_ | I was needed to add some ceilo tests to pass coverage( | 14:49 |
rvasilets_ | Because All added code was covered at 100% | 14:49 |
rvasilets_ | but coverage was red | 14:49 |
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rvasilets_ | Is it normal that directory work load at the top of plugins? | 14:50 |
rvasilets_ | redixin, ^ | 14:50 |
rvasilets_ | at the same level as opensatck and common | 14:51 |
rvasilets_ | Also I noticed that in 62 and 74 heat called from different sources https://review.openstack.org/#/c/272510/30/rally/plugins/openstack/services/heat/main.py | 14:51 |
rvasilets_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/272510/30/rally/plugins/openstack/services/heat/main.py | 14:51 |
rvasilets_ | This is shouldn't be the problem | 14:52 |
rvasilets_ | Okey | 14:52 |
rvasilets_ | So I think we could finish meeting? | 14:52 |
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andreykurilin | yeah | 14:53 |
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rvasilets_ | #endmeeting | 14:53 |
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anteaya | oh goodness | 15:16 |
anteaya | #startmeeting third-party | 15:16 |
openstack | Meeting started Mon Feb 8 15:16:09 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is anteaya. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:16 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:16 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'third_party' | 15:16 |
anteaya | I'm late | 15:16 |
anteaya | so sorry | 15:16 |
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anteaya | hello if you are here for the third-party meeting | 15:16 |
anteaya | eantyshev: did you want to mention your patch that you are looking for reviews on? | 15:17 |
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eantyshev | Hello! Yes, exactly! | 15:18 |
anteaya | thank you | 15:18 |
anteaya | sorry for being late | 15:18 |
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eantyshev | anteaya: nothing more from me today | 15:20 |
anteaya | eantyshev: looks like the patch you were looking to get reviews on got approved | 15:21 |
anteaya | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/272123/ | 15:21 |
anteaya | congratulations | 15:21 |
anteaya | since I was late I'm guessing other folks moved onto other things | 15:21 |
anteaya | if anyone has anything they want to discuss, do speak up | 15:21 |
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lennyb_ | hi, nothing frmo me either | 15:22 |
anteaya | hey lennyb_ | 15:23 |
anteaya | okay thank you for speaking up | 15:23 |
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anteaya | lennyb_: sorry I was late today | 15:23 |
lennyb_ | I've started to worry :) | 15:23 |
anteaya | you are welcome to ping me in that case | 15:23 |
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anteaya | rather than waste time worrying | 15:24 |
anteaya | I just got distracted | 15:24 |
anteaya | on Monday's this meeting is usually my first thing | 15:24 |
anteaya | but I was up earlier than usual and got reading the mailing list | 15:24 |
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anteaya | so much to read | 15:25 |
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anteaya | well if noone has anything | 15:25 |
anteaya | does anyone object to me closing the meeting? | 15:26 |
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anteaya | oh btw, next week I am at the ops meetup in manchester | 15:27 |
anteaya | eantyshev lennyb_ are either of you willing to chair next week's meeting? | 15:27 |
eantyshev | nope | 15:27 |
anteaya | okay thank you | 15:27 |
anteaya | lennyb_? | 15:27 |
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anteaya | you can let me know later if you are willing | 15:28 |
anteaya | thank you | 15:28 |
anteaya | see you later | 15:28 |
anteaya | #endmeeting | 15:29 |
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rakhmerov | #startmeeting Mistral | 16:00 |
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openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
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rakhmerov | hi | 16:01 |
akuznetsova | hi | 16:01 |
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rakhmerov | anyone else here? | 16:02 |
NikolayM | hi! | 16:02 |
rakhmerov | hi | 16:02 |
rakhmerov | guys, I might not see anyone else because I forgot to send out an email | 16:03 |
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rakhmerov | but let's wait a few mins | 16:03 |
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rakhmerov | StackStorm guys are not coming as far as I know | 16:05 |
rakhmerov | Winson is on vacation | 16:05 |
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rakhmerov | trying to figure out if anyone else is coming | 16:05 |
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rakhmerov | NikolayM, akuznetsova, do you have anything to discuss? | 16:07 |
rakhmerov | seems like nobody else is coming | 16:07 |
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NikolayM | no, nothing from me | 16:09 |
akuznetsova | rakhmerov, we had to discuss HA gate, let's do it on this week | 16:09 |
rakhmerov | akuznetsova: ? | 16:09 |
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rakhmerov | yes, I remember that | 16:09 |
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rakhmerov | are you willing to start working on it? | 16:09 |
rakhmerov | and do you have time? | 16:09 |
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akuznetsova | rakhmerov, firstly I need to understand what we want to have | 16:11 |
akuznetsova | without it I cann't estimate my time | 16:12 |
rakhmerov | ok, no problem | 16:12 |
rakhmerov | I'll schedule a conversation | 16:12 |
rakhmerov | #action rakhmerov: schedule a meeting to discuss HA gate with akuznetsova | 16:12 |
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rakhmerov | ok, let's end the meeting | 16:12 |
rakhmerov | thanks guys | 16:12 |
rakhmerov | #endmeeting | 16:12 |
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matjazp | #startmeeting training-guides | 17:01 |
openstack | Meeting started Mon Feb 8 17:01:49 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is matjazp. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:01 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:01 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'training_guides' | 17:01 |
matjazp | hey all | 17:01 |
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matjazp | anyone here for the meting? | 17:02 |
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matjazp | standard meeting agenda, as it seems | 17:02 |
matjazp | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/training-guides-meeting-agenda | 17:02 |
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matjazp | ok, looks like we'll have to reschedule | 17:08 |
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matjazp | there's nothing special to report or discuss | 17:10 |
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matjazp | #info meeting postponed till next week | 17:14 |
matjazp | #endmeeting | 17:14 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Mon Feb 8 17:14:26 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:14 |
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openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_guides/2016/training_guides.2016-02-08-17.01.html | 17:14 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_guides/2016/training_guides.2016-02-08-17.01.txt | 17:14 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_guides/2016/training_guides.2016-02-08-17.01.log.html | 17:14 |
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adam_g | #startmeeting astara | 18:02 |
openstack | Meeting started Mon Feb 8 18:02:20 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is adam_g. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:02 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:02 |
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adam_g | o/ all | 18:02 |
markmcclain | o/ | 18:02 |
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elopez | hola.. | 18:03 |
adam_g | hey guys | 18:04 |
adam_g | #topic mitaka development | 18:04 |
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rods | o/ | 18:05 |
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adam_g | so we're quickly coming up on mitaka-3 | 18:05 |
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adam_g | hoping that we can have any feature work we want in at least up for review this week | 18:06 |
adam_g | ive been busy hackng away on the first of a few patches to add HA appliances, which i'll clean up and untag as WIP today or tomorrow | 18:06 |
markmcclain | awesome | 18:06 |
adam_g | #link https://review.openstack.org/267263 | 18:06 |
markmcclain | I've been bit a bit sidetracked running down l2pop interaction issues | 18:07 |
adam_g | on top of that i think we can start layering the appliance configuration components and clustering intelligence | 18:07 |
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markmcclain | nice | 18:07 |
adam_g | markmcclain, is the BYONF stuff in a state where it can be thrown up onto gerrit? | 18:07 |
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markmcclain | no.. it's based on old forks... I've got to rebase and cleanup | 18:08 |
adam_g | ah ok | 18:08 |
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adam_g | rods and i chatted last week about posisbly adding some hooks into the management API for viewing worker stats from the outside | 18:09 |
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adam_g | rods, any chance you can file a quick BP just so we have something to track its work toward the release? | 18:09 |
rods | adam_g sure | 18:09 |
adam_g | thanks | 18:10 |
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elopez | markmcclain: what can I do to help with the l2pop issue as I've run into this | 18:11 |
adam_g | anyone else have anything to report feature-wise? any updates on VPNaaS? | 18:11 |
markmcclain | elopez: we've got 2 issues | 18:11 |
markmcclain | once is how to address for <= liberty and the other is how to fix to mitaka forward | 18:11 |
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phil_h | I also have l2pop issues running Linux bridge | 18:12 |
adam_g | okay lets move this to next topic | 18:12 |
adam_g | #topic bugs | 18:12 |
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markmcclain | I'm not certain we can properly fix <=liberty without making backward incompatible changes to appliance | 18:12 |
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elopez | this will affect Fuel and RDO since they are behind current | 18:13 |
adam_g | i assume we're talking about https://bugs.launchpad.net/astara/+bug/1541864 here ? | 18:14 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1541864 in Astara "astara build router using wrong ports" [Undecided,New] | 18:14 |
adam_g | or is this another issue/ | 18:14 |
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elopez | yes, part of the problem. I ran into a multicast issue as well with vxlan. I think phil_h also hit this issue as well | 18:15 |
phil_h | That one seems to be realeted to the neutron address pair bug | 18:15 |
adam_g | phil_h, bug #? | 18:16 |
markmcclain | yeah... so that's the bug that kicked off the exploration | 18:16 |
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phil_h | I believe I may have found a kernel bug relating to vxlan multicasting | 18:16 |
markmcclain | I've been leaning towards dividing the bug into small portions | 18:17 |
phil_h | I will send details off line to eric | 18:17 |
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adam_g | ok. right now we only have 1541864 tracking this in LP. it would be good to at least update that with some triage notes | 18:18 |
phil_h | check out https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1445089 | 18:18 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1445089 in neutron "allowed-address-pairs broken with l2pop/arp responder and LinuxBridge/VXLAN" [Undecided,Confirmed] - Assigned to yalei wang (yalei-wang) | 18:18 |
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adam_g | rods, did you guys have any luck testng https://review.openstack.org/#/c/276875/ ? | 18:18 |
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markmcclain | phil_h: I'm thinking of submitting a fix for that to address one of the >=mitaka issue | 18:20 |
phil_h | the would be good - othewise I cannot get linux bridge to work | 18:20 |
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adam_g | markmcclain, which repos dose this affect? astara, astara-neutron, and neutron? | 18:25 |
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markmcclain | for mitaka would impact neutron and release notes for astara | 18:25 |
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markmcclain | for liberty and earlier astara-neutron and astara-appliance | 18:26 |
adam_g | ok | 18:26 |
adam_g | is the bug more than whats captured in https://bugs.launchpad.net/astara/+bug/1541864 or do we need others filed elsewhere? | 18:26 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1541864 in Astara "astara build router using wrong ports" [Undecided,New] | 18:26 |
adam_g | or is there a neutron bug already for it? | 18:26 |
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markmcclain | adam_g: yeah need to update and likely why I want to split the bug because it is a series of things | 18:28 |
adam_g | ok, thanks | 18:28 |
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markmcclain | some on unique to l2pop and don't impact say vxfld based deployments | 18:28 |
adam_g | #action markmcclain to add info and split up bug 1541864 | 18:29 |
openstack | bug 1541864 in Astara "astara build router using wrong ports" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1541864 | 18:29 |
adam_g | thanks. that'd make it easier to track whats going on | 18:29 |
adam_g | ryanpetrello, rods did you guys have a chance to test https://review.openstack.org/#/c/276875/ and see if it addresses the blocking thread issue you saw? | 18:30 |
rods | adam_g we deployed a new package with the fix today in the morning | 18:31 |
rods | looks good so far | 18:31 |
adam_g | oh, cool | 18:31 |
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adam_g | ill ping you later/tomorrow to see if it solved it. thanks | 18:31 |
adam_g | #topic open discussion | 18:31 |
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adam_g | anyone with anything else to bring up? | 18:32 |
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elopez | not off hand | 18:32 |
markmcclain | I'm still working on the patch to remove auto address resources | 18:32 |
markmcclain | functional testing is the last hurdle | 18:33 |
adam_g | oh ya | 18:33 |
markmcclain | the routers are going into error state, but I think that might a real bug introduced by the change | 18:33 |
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adam_g | i messed with that a bit locally on thurs or fri | 18:33 |
markmcclain | so have to go back and triage it a bit more | 18:34 |
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adam_g | markmcclain, i was seeing issues with our router model, specifically router.ports, with your patch applied + how we create the router in the test suite | 18:34 |
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adam_g | IIRC it looked liek the make_ports_callback was blowing up when router.ports=[None, None] or something similar | 18:34 |
markmcclain | ok.. I hadn't seen that yet | 18:35 |
adam_g | i just pulled the patch down and ran the tests, tests failed and saw the tracebacks in the astara logs | 18:36 |
adam_g | ill see if i can reproduce it in the gate | 18:36 |
markmcclain | ah cool | 18:36 |
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adam_g | ok unless anyone else has anything, we can wrap it up | 18:37 |
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adam_g | ok tty later | 18:38 |
adam_g | #endmeeting | 18:38 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Mon Feb 8 18:38:28 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:38 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/astara/2016/astara.2016-02-08-18.02.html | 18:38 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/astara/2016/astara.2016-02-08-18.02.txt | 18:38 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/astara/2016/astara.2016-02-08-18.02.log.html | 18:38 |
markmcclain | bye | 18:38 |
phil_h | bye | 18:38 |
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xgerman | o/ | 20:59 |
mestery | o/ | 21:00 |
njohnston | o/ | 21:00 |
hichihara | hi | 21:00 |
dasm | \o | 21:00 |
mlavalle | o/ | 21:00 |
mhickey | Hi | 21:00 |
neiljerram | o/ | 21:00 |
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rossella_s1 | Hi | 21:00 |
ZZelle_ | Avé! | 21:00 |
haleyb | hi | 21:00 |
jckasper | hi | 21:00 |
tidwellr | hi | 21:00 |
regXboi | o\ | 21:00 |
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Sam-I-Am | hello | 21:01 |
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armax | hello | 21:01 |
armax | #startmeeting networking | 21:01 |
openstack | Meeting started Mon Feb 8 21:01:33 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is armax. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:01 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:01 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking' | 21:01 |
johnsom | o/ | 21:01 |
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ihrachys | o/ | 21:01 |
njohnston | o/ | 21:01 |
HenryG | o/ | 21:01 |
dougwig | o/ | 21:01 |
mestery | o/ | 21:01 |
mhickey | o/ | 21:01 |
neiljerram | hi | 21:01 |
hichihara | o/ | 21:01 |
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salv-orlando | aloha | 21:02 |
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ihrachys | mestery: we are doing it wrong if we count | 21:02 |
* njohnston just likes little ASCII people. It reminds me of IRC in 1995. | 21:02 | |
dasm | mestery: ihrachys: stats... stats everywhere | 21:02 |
Sam-I-Am | hi | 21:02 |
armax | there’s not much on the agenda this week | 21:02 |
armax | by the looks of it | 21:02 |
russellb | hi | 21:02 |
dougwig | we could bikeshed the stadium for at least an hour. | 21:03 |
johnsom | It is the irc of the 90's.... | 21:03 |
russellb | dougwig: :/ | 21:03 |
armax | #topic Announcements | 21:03 |
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armax | We | 21:04 |
armax | are well in the M3 window | 21:04 |
armax | as you guys are fully aware | 21:04 |
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armax | during the past two weeks we did a checkpoint on blueprints and RFEs | 21:04 |
armax | as it pains me to say, some stuff will have to be removed from Mitaka | 21:05 |
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russellb | S.O.P. | 21:05 |
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armax | I’ll be going over the list this week to see what can reasonably make Mitaka and what can’t | 21:05 |
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armax | I would like to remind you that if you are an approver/assignee of a blueprint/rfe | 21:06 |
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armax | to work with your peer to get things moving as much as you can | 21:06 |
armax | be proactive | 21:07 |
dougwig | https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/mitaka-3 | 21:07 |
armax | bear in mind | 21:07 |
armax | should stuff gets out of Mitaka, we’ll still allow progress for now | 21:08 |
armax | but any patch that includes a release note will be blocked | 21:09 |
russellb | so just don't add a release note for your feature? | 21:09 |
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dasm | russellb: ++ | 21:09 |
armax | that’s funny ah ah | 21:09 |
salv-orlando | russellb: if you do that it's not the patch that gets blocked, but the authro | 21:09 |
salv-orlando | blocked forever | 21:10 |
russellb | harsh | 21:10 |
salv-orlando | physically blocked | 21:10 |
mestery | super harsh | 21:10 |
xgerman | send to MN | 21:10 |
salv-orlando | texas chainsaw style | 21:10 |
xgerman | and put in an igloo | 21:10 |
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mestery | harsh | 21:11 |
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dougwig | sheesh, dark meeting today. | 21:12 |
russellb | (sorry for the interruption) | 21:12 |
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mhickey | I thought this meeting was supposed to be "light entertainment"?! | 21:12 |
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armax | ok | 21:13 |
armax | minute up | 21:13 |
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armax | #topic bugs | 21:13 |
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armax | mhickey: we had a discussion on gate stability this week | 21:14 |
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armax | on the ML | 21:14 |
mhickey | armax: ok; do you have the thread? | 21:14 |
armax | there are a few gate failure offenderes | 21:14 |
armax | *offenderes | 21:14 |
armax | offenders! | 21:15 |
armax | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-February/085631.html | 21:15 |
mhickey | thanks | 21:15 |
* njohnston thanks everyone for helping him bug deputy last week, especially sc68cal, ajo, and blogan. | 21:15 | |
armax | so IPv6 is not behaving well in the gate | 21:15 |
armax | haleyb had a patch up to move some of tests to the periodic queue | 21:16 |
armax | that helped | 21:16 |
armax | but I still see failures | 21:16 |
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Sam-I-Am | njohnston: you got the fun mtu bugs :) | 21:16 |
armax | as a team | 21:16 |
armax | we gotta figure out to keep this list to 0 | 21:16 |
armax | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&field.tag=gate-failure | 21:16 |
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armax | especially now that we’re going into the busy period of the release | 21:17 |
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armax | linuxbridge has been flaky recently too, and kevinbenton helped on that front too | 21:18 |
armax | so I am calling for arms here…anyone interested in IPv6 as well as Linux Bridge, please make sure stability issues are given priority | 21:18 |
sc68cal | I think kevin's patch may have fixed the flakyness. We're at 0% failure for today | 21:18 |
armax | otherwise we’ll have to demote this stuff from the gate and let it rot | 21:18 |
armax | sc68cal: super kevinbenton strikes again | 21:18 |
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sc68cal | re dropping stuff and letting it rot - then my joke about nobody caring about IPv6 will be shown to be not a joke | 21:19 |
sc68cal | so yeah let's not make my joke come true | 21:19 |
armax | mhickey: care to add anything? | 21:19 |
ihrachys | armax: what's the linuxbridge one? I miss details. and can work with Andreas on looking into that one. is that the one breaking stable for a while in the past? | 21:19 |
mhickey | its njohnston that was the weeks deputy | 21:19 |
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mhickey | I am only starting | 21:20 |
sc68cal | ihrachys: it was https://review.openstack.org/#/c/276519/ | 21:20 |
sc68cal | to get context | 21:20 |
armax | ihrachys: we saw a surge of failures on the linuxbridge job | 21:20 |
armax | ihrachys: are you saying that the job is persistently broken on stable branches? | 21:20 |
ihrachys | armax: ok I thought that was stable only (haven't seen any on master myself) | 21:21 |
ihrachys | armax: no it was actually cured lately I think. not sure how (was traveling the whole week before) | 21:21 |
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armax | ok | 21:21 |
armax | njohnston: anything you would like to add? | 21:23 |
njohnston | armax: The main LB bug that came was to track to MTU issues (https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1542108), the other LB bugs (https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1542923, https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1542972), while notable, didn't strike me as gate-busters | 21:23 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1542108 in neutron "MTU concerns for the Linux bridge agent" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Sean M. Collins (scollins) | 21:23 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1542923 in neutron "Linuxbridge agent failed to start when bridge_mappings is given" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq) | 21:23 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1542972 in neutron "linux bridge device processing loop breaks on removals" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Kevin Benton (kevinbenton) | 21:23 |
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armax | ok thanks | 21:25 |
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mhickey | armax: I have 2 to add for today.. | 21:25 |
armax | mhickey: go for it | 21:25 |
mhickey | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1543040 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1543094 | 21:25 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1543040 in neutron "neutron.tests.unit.agent.linux.test_async_process.TestFailingAsyncProcess.test_failing_async_process_handle_error_once failed in Liberty periodic job" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Nir Magnezi (nmagnezi) | 21:25 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1543094 in neutron "[Pluggable IPAM] DB exceeded retry limit (RetryRequest) on create_router call" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Salvatore Orlando (salvatore-orlando) | 21:25 |
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ihrachys | the 1st is a test only issue and liberty only; just need a backport of an existing fix. | 21:26 |
mhickey | ihracchys: thanks | 21:26 |
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mhickey | the other salv-orlando is looking at | 21:26 |
armax | mhickey: thanks | 21:27 |
armax | from now on let’s be conscious as to what bug fix needs to target M3 | 21:28 |
ihrachys | should we stop merging untargeted fixes? or should we just be informally mindful? | 21:28 |
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armax | ihrachys: both? | 21:29 |
armax | :) | 21:29 |
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armax | ideally we target stuff that we know is gonna hurt the release if it doesn’t merge | 21:29 |
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armax | I wonder if rossella_s1’s script is widely used amongst team members? | 21:30 |
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dougwig | what script/where? | 21:31 |
ihrachys | not by me, sorry. | 21:31 |
armax | dougwig: it’s a script in the repo | 21:31 |
armax | under tools | 21:31 |
armax | it generates a gerrit dashboard | 21:31 |
hichihara | https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/tools/milestone-review-dash.py | 21:31 |
armax | that contains patches targeting release items and high priorities fixes | 21:32 |
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armax | hichihara: that’s the one! | 21:32 |
armax | hichihara: thanks | 21:32 |
hichihara | armax: :) | 21:32 |
armax | any taker for next week deputy duty? | 21:33 |
regXboi | I thought that was covered last week?!?! | 21:33 |
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armax | we got this week covered | 21:33 |
armax | not the next, I am being proactive! | 21:33 |
regXboi | ah .... I get it now | 21:33 |
armax | I drink my own kool-aid you know? | 21:34 |
dasm | i volunteer | 21:34 |
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armax | dasm: cool | 21:34 |
mhickey | btw, kudos to njohnston for great steps on starting out as a "green" deputy: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-bug-deputy | 21:34 |
armax | dasm: thanks | 21:34 |
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mhickey | dasm: ++ | 21:35 |
dasm | mhickey: exactly. njohnston ++ | 21:35 |
ihrachys | armax: I thought rossella_s1 was to cover it? | 21:35 |
ihrachys | armax: as per prev meeting. | 21:35 |
armax | mhickey, njohnston you may want to turn that into a diff to the devref version of it | 21:35 |
armax | http://docs.openstack.org/developer/neutron/policies/bugs.html#bug-screening-best-practices | 21:35 |
armax | I see no reason why we should keep this in two separate sources | 21:35 |
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mhickey | armax: ok, can sync with njohnston biut he did all the good work :) | 21:36 |
mhickey | *but | 21:36 |
njohnston | armax: Yes sir. | 21:36 |
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mhickey | njohnston: :) | 21:36 |
armax | thanks folks | 21:36 |
armax | ihrachys: um, that might have slipped through the cracks, I’ll double check | 21:37 |
armax | #topic Docs | 21:38 |
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armax | before I had over to Sam-I-Am | 21:38 |
Sam-I-Am | howdy | 21:38 |
armax | I would like to state the obvious | 21:38 |
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armax | but a feature is not complete without docs | 21:39 |
armax | so if you have something targeted to you | 21:39 |
armax | either as approver or submitter | 21:39 |
armax | look for Docs patches | 21:39 |
armax | or don’t forget to submit them/provide support to docs folks | 21:39 |
Sam-I-Am | and if you don't, you have to deal with me :) | 21:39 |
armax | our users will love you for it | 21:39 |
russellb | or hate you, depending | 21:40 |
armax | to this aim, any feature without at least a barebone doc reference will not be signed off as complete for Mitakta | 21:40 |
mlavalle | Sam-I-Am: that's a strong incentive ;-) | 21:40 |
Sam-I-Am | no docs, no release? :) | 21:40 |
njohnston | What is the best way to tie those together, given that the changes may be in openstack-manuals or api-guide or cli guide etc? You can use Depends-On tag to make sure that they don't merge before the primary patch, but there's no way to reverse that association, i.e. see all the docs patches depending on this primary code patch. | 21:40 |
armax | Mitaka | 21:40 |
armax | I’d say we can be lax about this | 21:41 |
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armax | because tying commis like this can be a bit of a pain | 21:41 |
armax | commits | 21:41 |
ihrachys | :D | 21:41 |
njohnston | ok, making sure there wasn't a customary way to do that | 21:41 |
Sam-I-Am | some of this might need to be managed in a less mechanical way | 21:42 |
armax | but I’d say before we mark a BP Implemeted or a RFE release we should at least have a doc reference | 21:42 |
armax | and we should paste it either on the whiteboard or the bug report page | 21:42 |
armax | bear in mind that toda | 21:42 |
armax | y | 21:42 |
Sam-I-Am | whomever is managing the bp/spec should be able to track completion of all the bits, and feel free to drag me into it if you're not sure what constitutes as usable docs. | 21:42 |
Sam-I-Am | 'how to run this in a devstack all-in-one' is not docs. | 21:43 |
armax | patches that have a DocImpact in the message | 21:43 |
armax | will generate a bug in this list: | 21:43 |
armax | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?field.tag=doc | 21:43 |
sc68cal | no docs < some docs < good docs | 21:43 |
armax | these bugs can have multiple fixes | 21:44 |
sc68cal | so, even some docs is a start | 21:44 |
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armax | either neutron iself, openstack-manuals, api-site or all of them | 21:44 |
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Sam-I-Am | woo | 21:44 |
Sam-I-Am | if its developer-oriented docs, it goes into the devref | 21:44 |
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Sam-I-Am | if an operator would use it, it goes into openstack-manuals in the networking guide at a minimum... possibly api or config-ref if it impacts those things | 21:45 |
Sam-I-Am | thats more or less the separation between those places | 21:45 |
Sam-I-Am | tl;dr ... if it involves deployment or how-to-use feature X, throw it in the networking guide | 21:45 |
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armax | Sam-I-Am: and if you don’t know, ask | 21:46 |
Sam-I-Am | yeah, pretty much | 21:46 |
Sam-I-Am | y'all know how to find me | 21:46 |
armax | and we’ll happily you wind you up in circle | 21:46 |
armax | until you get frustrated and move on | 21:46 |
dasm | one more thing about docs. i asked Anne Gentle about it: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-February/085890.html | 21:46 |
Sam-I-Am | decent docs = more adoption of X and less frustration with X | 21:47 |
armax | dasm: ok | 21:47 |
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Sam-I-Am | api docs will hopefully be easier soon-ish | 21:47 |
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Sam-I-Am | other than adding to armax's comments, not much from the docs side. still trying to contribute to the networking guide. | 21:48 |
armax | Sam-I-Am: thanks | 21:49 |
Sam-I-Am | i know mhickey has something in flight in openstack-manuals | 21:49 |
Sam-I-Am | i'll try to help out with those things when i can | 21:49 |
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mlavalle | Sam-I-Am: I am also writing a chapter about DNS integration for the networking guide | 21:49 |
mhickey | Sam-I-Am: sure; have review comments to get to thids week | 21:49 |
mhickey | *this | 21:50 |
Sam-I-Am | mlavalle: cool | 21:50 |
armax | ok | 21:50 |
armax | #topic Open Discussion | 21:50 |
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mlavalle | dougwig: lol | 21:51 |
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armax | MTU issues was discussed during last meeting, was it not? | 21:51 |
ihrachys | not really? | 21:52 |
armax | there’s nothing flagged on the agenda for today’s meeting | 21:52 |
russellb | i think Sam-I-Am is scarred | 21:52 |
Sam-I-Am | armax: bugs are filed now as you asked me to do | 21:52 |
salv-orlando | armax: yeah but dougwig's paint will dry out, and I have my paintbrush ready | 21:52 |
Sam-I-Am | it'd be really nice to fix it for mitaka | 21:52 |
armax | 8 minutes in not nearly enough to paint anything serious | 21:52 |
russellb | salv-orlando: dougwig guys, bikeshedding is debating the color, not actually *doing* the paining. that's far too productive. | 21:52 |
armax | russellb has a point | 21:53 |
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sc68cal | lol | 21:53 |
salv-orlando | we are practical bike shedders | 21:53 |
armax | on that note, I’d rather give you 7 minutes back so that you can go and do something productive | 21:53 |
john-davidge | Can we mention #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/265041 quickly? | 21:53 |
russellb | looks like you just did :) | 21:53 |
john-davidge | I’d rather not expand the bodged together initiate_gmr() call to every cmd file unless really necessary | 21:54 |
armax | john-davidge: agreed | 21:54 |
ihrachys | john-davidge: so instead you propose to drop oslo.reports? that's gross. | 21:54 |
john-davidge | Would it be teriible to pull out GMR completely and put the burden on the original submitter to fix the problem before we merge it again? | 21:54 |
russellb | i'd certainly rather not | 21:54 |
salv-orlando | I mean is the problem a warning line on the console? | 21:54 |
ihrachys | yes. | 21:55 |
john-davidge | salv-orlando: yes | 21:55 |
russellb | having first hand seeing *HUGE* benefits that the report can provide when trying to debug a bizarre lockup | 21:55 |
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ihrachys | apparently dibbler relies on scripts not writing anything there | 21:55 |
armax | john-davidge: is it possible to catch it in the neutron-pd-notify | 21:55 |
salv-orlando | ah so john-davidge was ironic when suggesting of pulling the whole feature because of this ;) | 21:55 |
armax | I mean is there a chance to neutralize the effect of the warning on the client that’s affected? | 21:55 |
salv-orlando | sorry I thought he was serious for a second | 21:55 |
ihrachys | john-davidge: so, what's the actual deal of having it in each cmd module? yes, it's not ideal, but we failed to find a better way. | 21:56 |
russellb | same.. | 21:56 |
armax | I must admit I am not 100% up to speed to come up with a good answer | 21:56 |
john-davidge | armax: Posiibly. I havent found one so far but I could trying digging again | 21:56 |
armax | I’d personally rather avoid the sprinkling of method calls the way you did | 21:57 |
armax | it’s obviously prone to error | 21:57 |
john-davidge | ihrachys: It seems to me that there must be a better, single place that we can initiate the logging for GMR iwthout needing to call a function in every single cmd file. But as we both discovered if there is one it isnt obvious :( | 21:57 |
armax | can we ask the guru folks? | 21:58 |
ihrachys | john-davidge: yeah, because for that you need to parse config files and initialize logging | 21:58 |
armax | perhaps they have an answer on how to address this No handlers could be found for logger "oslo_reports.guru_meditation_report" error | 21:58 |
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armax | that gets thrown | 21:58 |
john-davidge | armax: That would be a great idea, who can we ping about that? | 21:58 |
ihrachys | armax: that's a good idea. we can try someone from nova. | 21:58 |
armax | someone must have stumbled upon it before | 21:58 |
armax | dunno | 21:58 |
ihrachys | john-davidge: let's say we start from oslo.reports core folks | 21:59 |
armax | going in the oslo_reports repo should give you a lead | 21:59 |
armax | ok time is up | 21:59 |
armax | #endmeeting | 21:59 |
Sam-I-Am | yep. thanks everyone. | 21:59 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Mon Feb 8 21:59:32 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:59 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2016/networking.2016-02-08-21.01.html | 21:59 |
john-davidge | Ok, sounds like a plan. Will start a thread on the ML | 21:59 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2016/networking.2016-02-08-21.01.txt | 21:59 |
armax | thanks for joining | 21:59 |
mlavalle | bye | 21:59 |
salv-orlando | I had the same error for the quota engine. It was just a race in initialization. | 21:59 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2016/networking.2016-02-08-21.01.log.html | 21:59 |
armax | next week | 21:59 |
armax | it’s ihar’s turn | 21:59 |
mhickey | thanks, bye | 21:59 |
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hichihara | bye | 21:59 |
armax | I am gonna sleep | 21:59 |
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salv-orlando | adieuuuu | 21:59 |
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dasm | thanks, bye | 21:59 |
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