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| aspiers | #startmeeting ha | 09:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Mon Dec 7 09:01:23 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is aspiers. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 09:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ha)" | 09:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ha' | 09:01 |
| aspiers | OK hopefully this is the right channel now ;-) | 09:01 |
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| ddeja | yes, hello :-) | 09:01 |
| masahito | o/ | 09:01 |
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| aspiers | Welcome everyone - again :-) | 09:02 |
| kazuIchikawa | o/ | 09:02 |
| aspiers | Maybe I should have mentioned that this meeting time is Monday morning for me, so sometimes my brain will not work ;-) | 09:02 |
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| beekhof | howdy | 09:02 |
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| _gryf | hey | 09:02 |
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| aspiers | #topic Current status (progress, issues, roadblocks, further plans) | 09:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Current status (progress, issues, roadblocks, further plans) (Meeting topic: ha)" | 09:03 | |
| aspiers | _gryf/ddeja: you want to give any updates? | 09:03 |
| ddeja | I have working fix for bug in mistral, but struggle with tests | 09:04 |
| aspiers | ok | 09:04 |
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| ddeja | but other guy from Mistral have proposed another (probably better) fix | 09:04 |
| _gryf | from my side - nothing in the ha area | 09:04 |
| ddeja | so I hope to have it resolved this week | 09:05 |
| aspiers | ok cool | 09:05 |
| ddeja | I'll be making review and start hardening POC solution | 09:05 |
| aspiers | ddeja: sounds good! | 09:05 |
| aspiers | masahito: anything from your side? | 09:05 |
| masahito | I checked 2 things last week. i) whether Masakari works with pacemaker-remote with no change or not? ii) easy to replace sqlalchemy? | 09:06 |
| masahito | i) We need some works for using pacemaker-remote. Changes sources of host's status for hostmonitor process. Masakari parses output of crm_mon command to check which host is online and offline. aspiers suggetted up-to-date crmsh is better. | 09:06 |
| masahito | but I hit a problem in crmsh when I checked it. A remote node appears in 'crm node list', but when pacemaker-remote goes down the command doesn't said the remote node is offline. I used pacemaker 1.1.10 on ubuntu14.04. If the version is wrong for testing, please let me know. | 09:06 |
| masahito | ii) replacing MySQLdb with sqlalchemy isn't difficult but needs some works. | 09:06 |
| aspiers | 1.1.100 is old | 09:07 |
| aspiers | 1.1.10 I mean | 09:07 |
| masahito | above is my update :) | 09:07 |
| beekhof | crmsh wont work for RH | 09:07 |
| masahito | beekhof: which tools should I use? | 09:07 |
| beekhof | well RH would love you to use pcs | 09:08 |
| beekhof | but | 09:08 |
| beekhof | maybe crm_mon --xml ? | 09:08 |
| masahito | ubuntu doesn't have it. | 09:08 |
| ddeja | beekhof: why not pcs? I'm using it and it's OK? | 09:08 |
| aspiers | ddeja: pcs only exists on RH IIUC | 09:08 |
| beekhof | ddeja: because that will make suse just as unhappy | 09:08 |
| ddeja | Oh, OK | 09:09 |
| aspiers | (and Ubuntu) | 09:09 |
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| beekhof | masahito: i'd worry about using pacemaker remote on a version old enough not to have --xml | 09:09 |
| beekhof | sorry, --as-xml | 09:09 |
| aspiers | masahito: you should probably use 1.1.13 at least | 09:09 |
| beekhof | at least | 09:10 |
| masahito | beekhof: ok, I'll try it with latest one. | 09:10 |
| beekhof | lots of work went into it this year | 09:10 |
| beekhof | lots of scary, "how did this ever work" kind of fixes | 09:10 |
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| aspiers | crm_node should work cross-distro, but IIRC it doesn't work on remotes unless they have a node attribute set | 09:11 |
| _gryf | masahito, what operating system do you use? | 09:11 |
| masahito | _gryf: ubuntu | 09:11 |
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| _gryf | masahito, oh, i see, ubuntu lts | 09:11 |
| masahito | _gryf: currently we use ubuntu14.04 because of lts | 09:12 |
| aspiers | I should try to summarise some of this for the minutes | 09:12 |
| aspiers | #action ddeja to review alternate solution to mistral bug | 09:13 |
| aspiers | #action ddeja to continue hardening mistral PoC | 09:13 |
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| aspiers | #info masahito is now working on integrating pacemaker_remote into masakari | 09:13 |
| aspiers | #info masahito is now working on replacing MySQLdb with sqlalchemy | 09:13 |
| beekhof | aspiers: it should work | 09:14 |
| aspiers | #action masahito will see if a newer pacemaker solves some of his issues | 09:14 |
| aspiers | beekhof: it works, but remotes are missing from one part of the CIB until a node attribute is set on them | 09:14 |
| aspiers | beekhof: therefore IIRC, crm_node -l only includes remotes with node attributes | 09:15 |
| aspiers | but I could be remembering the details totally wrong | 09:15 |
| aspiers | since it is still early on Monday | 09:15 |
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| beekhof | i think i encouraged ken to change that | 09:15 |
| aspiers | that would be nice - it did seem a bit inconsistent | 09:15 |
| beekhof | should be reliable in 1.1.14 | 09:15 |
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| aspiers | beekhof: any updates from your side? | 09:16 |
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| beekhof | ha. yeah | 09:16 |
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| beekhof | so remember all my problems last week? yeah, someone pointed fencing at the undercloud instead. | 09:16 |
| aspiers | LOL | 09:17 |
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| beekhof | there are still some fixes to be had, and i'd like to co-ordinate with you on the host/nova name mappings | 09:17 |
| aspiers | yes please | 09:17 |
| aspiers | that was the bit I had the most problems with | 09:17 |
| beekhof | see if we can get something that works for both of us | 09:17 |
| beekhof | yep, i still have your diff open | 09:18 |
| aspiers | I have a whole page of notes from when I was reverse-engineering that | 09:18 |
| aspiers | I should share it | 09:18 |
| beekhof | i should have documented it :) | 09:18 |
| aspiers | that would be nice :) | 09:18 |
| aspiers | but it wasn't just you | 09:19 |
| aspiers | a lot of the mapping stuff is quite sparse on docs | 09:19 |
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| aspiers | e.g. pcmk_host_map, how port gets set for fencing agents etc. | 09:19 |
| beekhof | yeah | 09:19 |
| aspiers | #action beekhof and aspiers to discuss host/nova name mappings | 09:19 |
| beekhof | too little time | 09:20 |
| aspiers | right | 09:20 |
| beekhof | i updated RH on the status here, and someone raised a concern that Congress might be flatlining | 09:20 |
| beekhof | anyone want to comment on that? | 09:20 |
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| aspiers | it doesn't look like that based on the meeting minutes I read last week | 09:20 |
| aspiers | but I wanted to discuss Congress as a separate topic anyway | 09:20 |
| _gryf | beekhof, you mean, Congress would be discontinued? | 09:21 |
| aspiers | so let me first just say I don't have any significant updates from my side since last week was our team meeting | 09:21 |
| aspiers | #topic Congress and potential use in HA | 09:21 |
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| beekhof | someone basically sent this link ( http://stackalytics.com/?module=congress-group&metric=commits&release=liberty ) and said see, vmware isn't interested anymore | 09:21 |
| beekhof | presumably vmware was the original project champion? | 09:21 |
| masahito | hi, I'm also contributing Congress. | 09:22 |
| aspiers | beekhof: are you mentioning Congress due to what I posted on #openstack-ha last week? | 09:22 |
| beekhof | _gryf: that was the suggestion | 09:22 |
| beekhof | aspiers: i dont recall who suggested it | 09:22 |
| aspiers | it was me | 09:22 |
| beekhof | but yeah | 09:22 |
| beekhof | ok | 09:22 |
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| aspiers | they already have a use case for triggering nova evacuation workflows from Congress | 09:22 |
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| aspiers | #info Congress project has documented a use case for triggering nova evacuation workflows from Congress | 09:23 |
| beekhof | use case == reason or use case == code? | 09:23 |
| aspiers | reason IIUC | 09:23 |
| beekhof | link? | 09:23 |
| masahito | I don't know what was happen in ha, but I can explain from Congress side maybe. | 09:23 |
| aspiers | #link https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ExDmT06vDZjzOPePYBqojMRfXodvsk0R8nRkX-zrkSw/edit# | 09:24 |
| beekhof | to be up front, i don't much care who does the triggering. but the division of labor seemed sane | 09:24 |
| aspiers | the use case is missing from the ToC | 09:24 |
| aspiers | but it's just after the "evacuation of tenants for planned outage" section | 09:24 |
| aspiers | I also talked to one of our guys who is following Congress | 09:25 |
| aspiers | and found out that they are talking about integrating it with Mistral | 09:25 |
| aspiers | so it could watch out for the attribute set by fence_compute, and then initiate evacuation via Mistral based on cloud-specific policies | 09:26 |
| aspiers | which sounds really nice because each cloud will have different ideas of how to set SLAs for pets | 09:26 |
| beekhof | would we bother with fence_compute? other than to tell nova that the node is down? | 09:26 |
| beekhof | once we've told nova, then congress should automagically know what to do right? | 09:27 |
| aspiers | beekhof: I guess it depends on the details | 09:27 |
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| beekhof | doesn't everything :) | 09:27 |
| ddeja | From the document that aspiers linked, it seemes that fence_compute should also tell congress | 09:27 |
| aspiers | if congress is too slow to notice for some reason, the compute host could bounce back up without any action taken | 09:28 |
| beekhof | also possible | 09:28 |
| ddeja | but maybe masahito know the details? | 09:28 |
| masahito | yap | 09:28 |
| aspiers | but I really like the idea of allowing flexible policies via Congress, e.g. some might want to do it with availability zones, others per-tenant, etc... | 09:28 |
| beekhof | aspiers: so was the question just "what do you think of including it?" ? | 09:28 |
| aspiers | beekhof: yeah pretty much | 09:29 |
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| aspiers | I think there's still quite a bit of work to do, e.g. the mistral driver for congress | 09:29 |
| beekhof | masahito: how speedy congress would be for this? seconds? minutes? | 09:29 |
| masahito | beekhof: depends on config. | 09:29 |
| masahito | beekhof: currently, congress polls Nova API every 10s in default. but | 09:30 |
| aspiers | Congress team were originally planning to add Mistral integration for liberty | 09:30 |
| aspiers | but AFAIK it hasn't started yet | 09:30 |
| aspiers | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/PolicyGuidedFulfillmentLibertyPlanning_Remediation is an example quite similar to the use case we are discussing | 09:30 |
| beekhof | aspiers: i think phase 1 == confirm if mistral is the right path + implement, phase 2 == decide if triggering via congress is the right path | 09:30 |
| masahito | In Mitaka release, I'll implement a new feature that Congress receive notification from other service. | 09:31 |
| aspiers | beekhof: violently agree :) | 09:31 |
| beekhof | masahito: ah, excellent | 09:31 |
| aspiers | masahito: very nice :-D | 09:31 |
| aspiers | #info masahito is planning to enable Congress to receive external notifications in mitaka | 09:31 |
| masahito | there is already a BP. | 09:32 |
| masahito | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/congress/+spec/push-type-datasource-driver | 09:32 |
| aspiers | ah cool | 09:32 |
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| masahito | On the other hand, the usecase aspiers mentioned above is suggested by others, so it's not under discussion now. | 09:34 |
| aspiers | I will try to attend Congress / Mistral IRC meetings when possible | 09:35 |
| aspiers | to stay up to date and represent our interests | 09:35 |
| beekhof | aspiers: did you want to move on to our fun email thread? | 09:35 |
| aspiers | but I'm pretty busy so hopefully others can too | 09:35 |
| ddeja | I'm trying to cover Mistral meetings | 09:35 |
| aspiers | beekhof: yes I was about to suggest that :) | 09:36 |
| aspiers | ddeja: great! | 09:36 |
| beekhof | but i got in first so ,,!,, :) | 09:36 |
| aspiers | #topic future direction of OCF RAs | 09:36 |
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| aspiers | haha :) | 09:36 |
| aspiers | so, I started a discussion with beekhof | 09:36 |
| aspiers | on IRC | 09:36 |
| aspiers | and then it turned into a private mail thread, which we should probably avoid in future :) | 09:36 |
| beekhof | but then i needed to cook dinner | 09:36 |
| beekhof | and you logged off | 09:37 |
| aspiers | right :) | 09:37 |
| ddeja | beekhof: LOL | 09:37 |
| aspiers | I suggested the idea of converting the RAs to wrap around service(8) | 09:37 |
| aspiers | and beekhof doesn't like that at all :) | 09:37 |
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| aspiers | we're currently working towards a consensus | 09:37 |
| beekhof | and everyone agreed it was a terrible idea. the end. good night | 09:37 |
| aspiers | haha ;-) | 09:37 |
| _gryf | aspiers, serviced, or just any other init system? | 09:37 |
| aspiers | _gryf: that's one of the key points | 09:37 |
| aspiers | my main point was that each distro potentially has a different way of managing services | 09:38 |
| aspiers | most are on systemd by now | 09:38 |
| _gryf | s/serviced/systed/ | 09:38 |
| aspiers | but I guess not all | 09:38 |
| aspiers | e.g. Ubuntu LTSS | 09:38 |
| beekhof | i'm no systemd fan, but it won, we should move on | 09:38 |
| _gryf | darn, systemd :) | 09:38 |
| beekhof | well, at least until people start using pacemaker_remoted as pid one | 09:38 |
| _gryf | ubuntu 14.04 have only logind, but still uses upstart | 09:39 |
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| _gryf | ubuntu 16.04 will have systed | 09:39 |
| aspiers | sorry, s/LTSS/LTS/ | 09:39 |
| beekhof | _gryf: so still a few months out | 09:39 |
| aspiers | 14.04 LTS is supported until late 2019 | 09:39 |
| _gryf | beekhof, right, and we have to count existing setups in | 09:40 |
| beekhof | LALALALALAL there is only RHEL | 09:40 |
| aspiers | beekhof: so you are suggesting we should drop support for that? | 09:40 |
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| ddeja | IMHO even after U16.04 we still should assume, that some other OS may come without systemd | 09:40 |
| aspiers | beekhof: in theory you and I should care the same amount about Ubuntu LTS ;-) | 09:40 |
| beekhof | i probably wouldnt base a forward looking solution around not having systemd if thats what you mean | 09:40 |
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| aspiers | ddeja: that's right | 09:41 |
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| beekhof | in any case, we should just use OCF scripts. problem solved | 09:41 |
| _gryf | ddeja, besides slackware and gentoo are there any other significant distribution that does not use systemd? | 09:41 |
| aspiers | now might be a good time to mention the https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Rpm-packaging project | 09:42 |
| beekhof | no comes with useful status monitoring! free with the first 100 orders | 09:42 |
| beekhof | (soory, its late, i get silly) | 09:42 |
| _gryf | beekhof, lol | 09:42 |
| aspiers | the likelihood of converging on the same systemd service descriptions for OpenStack services for rpm-based distros depends on the success of that project | 09:43 |
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| aspiers | but it's actually expanding beyond rpm to deb | 09:43 |
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| aspiers | one of our guys (Dirk Mueller) is the PTL and he was talking to Mirantis etc. in Tokyo | 09:43 |
| aspiers | although it's early stages | 09:43 |
| aspiers | anyway, my point is, even if everybody uses systemd, can we rely on the services having the same names etc.? | 09:44 |
| aspiers | or doing the same things | 09:44 |
| beekhof | nope. do we need to? | 09:44 |
| aspiers | that's the next question | 09:44 |
| aspiers | e.g. if Pacemaker is controlling keystone, should systemctl status openstack-keystone still work reliably? | 09:44 |
| aspiers | I would say yes | 09:45 |
| aspiers | of course systemctl start/stop are a very bad idea in those scenarios | 09:45 |
| beekhof | not necessarily | 09:45 |
| beekhof | its arguably better if it doesnt | 09:45 |
| ddeja | I'll agree with beekhof | 09:45 |
| beekhof | because then people will try start/stop via systemctl too | 09:45 |
| ddeja | with pacemaker we got one point to control all services | 09:45 |
| beekhof | we know this because it already happens :-( | 09:46 |
| aspiers | beekhof: you mean, so deliberately treat HA services as distinct from non-HA ones? | 09:46 |
| beekhof | yes | 09:46 |
| beekhof | absolutely | 09:46 |
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| beekhof | or | 09:46 |
| beekhof | figure out a way to redirect systemctl X to the cluster | 09:46 |
| beekhof | we're close | 09:46 |
| beekhof | but of course lacking the time to implement it | 09:46 |
| aspiers | ok, but then the problem is: how do we ensure that the RAs work cross-distro? | 09:46 |
| beekhof | there are a couple of ways to go | 09:46 |
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| aspiers | which again comes back to packaging | 09:47 |
| beekhof | are the binaries deployed to such different locations? | 09:47 |
| beekhof | running as completely different users? | 09:47 |
| aspiers | beekhof: I would be surprised if everything was identical across all distros | 09:48 |
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| aspiers | IIRC, one difference was whether to prefix binaries/users/groups etc. with "openstack-" | 09:48 |
| beekhof | we handle apache as an RA and the binary names aren't even consistent | 09:48 |
| beekhof | across distros i mean | 09:48 |
| aspiers | that's true | 09:48 |
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| beekhof | httpd vs. apache | 09:49 |
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| aspiers | HTTPDLIST="/sbin/httpd2 /usr/sbin/httpd2 /usr/sbin/apache2 /sbin/httpd /usr/sbin/httpd /usr/sbin/apache $IBMHTTPD" | 09:49 |
| aspiers | wow, that's pretty ugly :-/ | 09:49 |
| aspiers | DEFAULT_IBMCONFIG=/opt/IBMHTTPServer/conf/httpd.conf | 09:50 |
| aspiers | DEFAULT_SUSECONFIG="/etc/apache2/httpd.conf" | 09:50 |
| aspiers | DEFAULT_RHELCONFIG="/etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf" | 09:50 |
| aspiers | this is exactly what I would like to avoid | 09:50 |
| beekhof | i'm not saying the community shouldnt standardize on something | 09:50 |
| aspiers | the differences should be handled by the vendor packages, not by hardcoding them in the upstream RAs | 09:50 |
| beekhof | but a) i dont think we need to drive it and b) i dont think its a requirement | 09:50 |
| aspiers | e.g. the above breaks if a distro changes locations between major versions | 09:50 |
| beekhof | or a reason not to do an OCF RA | 09:51 |
| aspiers | do we really want to go down the road of having 'case "$SUSE_VERSION" in' stuff inside each RA? | 09:51 |
| beekhof | no | 09:51 |
| aspiers | I don't see another way, unless the RA delegates distro-specific decisions to something external | 09:52 |
| beekhof | but i dont think the DEFAULT_ stuff is necessary | 09:52 |
| beekhof | or | 09:52 |
| beekhof | could be done better imho | 09:52 |
| aspiers | OK, would you like to write up a proposal? | 09:52 |
| aspiers | no huge rush, obviously | 09:52 |
| aspiers | but probably doesn't make sense to delve into details here | 09:52 |
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| beekhof | i think the sticking point, is that everyone wants to have their own defaults | 09:53 |
| aspiers | yes, and that's exactly why I proposed delegation | 09:53 |
| beekhof | for all i care, they can be the suse values and our installer can override them | 09:53 |
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| aspiers | that's assuming that everything is parametrized | 09:53 |
| beekhof | or vice versa | 09:53 |
| beekhof | they usually need to be anyway | 09:53 |
| aspiers | so we could make binary/config/pid file locations parametrized | 09:54 |
| beekhof | better idea | 09:54 |
| beekhof | lets decide what they should be | 09:54 |
| aspiers | OCF_RESKEY_binary | 09:54 |
| masahito | It sounds good. | 09:54 |
| beekhof | and anyone that gets it wrong has to rely on their installer | 09:54 |
| beekhof | until they fix their packaging :) | 09:54 |
| aspiers | It's still duplicating a bunch of stuff which exists in systemd service descriptions | 09:55 |
| beekhof | that doesn't help convergance though | 09:56 |
| beekhof | write something that pulls those values out? | 09:56 |
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| beekhof | 3 lines of shell? | 09:56 |
| aspiers | not sure I follow | 09:56 |
| beekhof | grep $field $unit | awk -F= '{print $2}' | 09:57 |
| aspiers | that seems a lot more cumbersome than simply wrapping systemctl | 09:57 |
| beekhof | that would be the default "default default" | 09:57 |
| beekhof | except it has one key advantage | 09:57 |
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| beekhof | i might actually work | 09:58 |
| beekhof | it might actually work | 09:58 |
| beekhof | systemd == nightmare | 09:58 |
| aspiers | OK, I'm beginning to learn you don't like systemd :) | 09:58 |
| aspiers | anyway we're out of time for now | 09:58 |
| aspiers | let's continue this on IRC / openstack-dev@ | 09:58 |
| beekhof | k | 09:58 |
| aspiers | any other topics in the remaining seconds? | 09:58 |
| _gryf | i guess no | 09:59 |
| aspiers | I think we sent everyone else to sleep with our RA talk ;-)) | 09:59 |
| masahito | next week, I want us to start thinking milestone of the HA. | 09:59 |
| aspiers | masahito: good idea, I'll put on the agenda! | 09:59 |
| masahito | aspiers: thanks! | 09:59 |
| aspiers | ok thanks all, and see you next week, or sooner on IRC! | 09:59 |
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| aspiers | #action put roadmap on agenda for next meeting | 10:00 |
| ddeja | thanks, bye | 10:00 |
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| aspiers | #endmeeting | 10:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: storyboard)" | 10:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Dec 7 10:00:24 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 10:00 |
| masahito | bye! | 10:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ha/2015/ha.2015-12-07-09.01.html | 10:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ha/2015/ha.2015-12-07-09.01.txt | 10:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ha/2015/ha.2015-12-07-09.01.log.html | 10:00 |
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| _gryf | thanks, bye! | 10:00 |
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| boris-42_ | #startmeeting Rally | 14:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Dec 7 14:01:45 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is boris-42_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Rally)" | 14:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'rally' | 14:01 |
| ikhudoshyn | o/ | 14:01 |
| oanufriev | hi all | 14:02 |
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| ylobankov | hi | 14:02 |
| boris-42_ | bochi-michael: hi | 14:03 |
| bochi-michael | boris-42_, hi :) | 14:03 |
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| chenli | hi | 14:04 |
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| boris-42_ | chenli: hi | 14:05 |
| boris-42_ | yingjun: hi | 14:05 |
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| yingjun | boris-42_ hi:) | 14:05 |
| boris-42_ | #topic Today's Agenda | 14:05 |
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| boris-42_ | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Rally#Agenda | 14:05 |
| boris-42_ | #topic [ikhudoshyn] Preparation for a Distributed Runner | 14:06 |
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| ikhudoshyn | Hi everybody | 14:06 |
| boris-42_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/251889/ | 14:06 |
| boris-42_ | ikhudoshyn: hi there | 14:06 |
| ikhudoshyn | I'm now working on distributed runner - the addition to Rally that will allow to generate load simultaneously by many nodes | 14:07 |
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| ikhudoshyn | Before implementing distributed runner itself I expect two preparation steps | 14:07 |
| ikhudoshyn | 1. Runner should return chunks (or batches) of TaskResult's rather then individual ones | 14:08 |
| ikhudoshyn | 2. Runner should aggregate SLA data and return SLAChecker instances | 14:08 |
| ikhudoshyn | by the link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/251889/ there is a patch implementing step #1 | 14:09 |
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| ikhudoshyn | While I'mm working on #2 I'd like to encourage everybody to take a look at it (#1) | 14:09 |
| ikhudoshyn | eom | 14:09 |
| ikhudoshyn | any questions? | 14:09 |
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| boris-42_ | ikhudoshyn: so we will need to do SLAChecker instances pickable? | 14:10 |
| ikhudoshyn | yes | 14:10 |
| boris-42_ | ikhudoshyn: we are going to send them via network in case of distributed runner? | 14:10 |
| ikhudoshyn | yes, exactly | 14:10 |
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| chenli | ikhudoshyn: how runners talk with rally ? | 14:11 |
| ikhudoshyn | right now Rally support only local runners | 14:11 |
| boris-42_ | ikhudoshyn: I believe you should send link to your spec | 14:12 |
| ikhudoshyn | Runner communicates with TaskEngine via queue | 14:12 |
| boris-42_ | laurelm: to chenli | 14:12 |
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| ikhudoshyn | boris-42_, sure, I'll find it right now | 14:12 |
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| chenli | ikhudoshyn: queue ? message queue ? RPC like other projects ? | 14:13 |
| ikhudoshyn | https://github.com/openstack/rally/blob/master/doc/specs/in-progress/distributed_runner.rst | 14:13 |
| boris-42_ | chenli: nope | 14:13 |
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| ikhudoshyn | chenli, no just plain multiprocessing.Queue | 14:13 |
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| ikhudoshyn | (or it might be Queue.Queue, I forgot) | 14:13 |
| chenli | ikhudoshyn: o.... thanks for the link. | 14:14 |
| boris-42_ | chenli: it's just Queue | 14:14 |
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| chenli | it is said : communicates with remote RunnerAgents wia message queue (ZeroMQ) | 14:16 |
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| boris-42_ | chenli: yep | 14:16 |
| chenli | so the "ZeroMQ" is not the same as rabbitMQ | 14:16 |
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| boris-42_ | chenli: currently we have only Local case | 14:16 |
| boris-42_ | chenli: it's just few processes | 14:16 |
| chenli | boris-42_: o. | 14:17 |
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| boris-42_ | chenli: that are communicating via shared memory | 14:17 |
| boris-42_ | chenli: using multiprocessing.Queue | 14:17 |
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| boris-42_ | chenli: which you can see from rally.task.engine module | 14:17 |
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| chenli | boris-42_: ok | 14:17 |
| boris-42_ | chenli: so the goal of work that we are working now is to create a distributed Runner | 14:19 |
| boris-42_ | chenli: it means that we will be able to consume many physical hosts to generate load | 14:19 |
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| boris-42_ | so seems like we have only one item in current agenda | 14:21 |
| boris-42_ | #topic OpenDiscussion | 14:21 |
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| boris-42_ | somebody has something to discuss? | 14:22 |
| ikhudoshyn | there is one more item from my side | 14:22 |
| ikhudoshyn | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/253659/ | 14:22 |
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| ikhudoshyn | I'd like other guys join the discussion | 14:22 |
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| ikhudoshyn | it's a rather small issuse about coding style | 14:23 |
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| ikhudoshyn | I expected Tom (the author) to join our meeting but looks like he misunderstood me | 14:23 |
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| ikhudoshyn | putting the issue here is a lil'bit tedious so please come and review | 14:24 |
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| ikhudoshyn | eom | 14:24 |
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| boris-42_ | ikhudoshyn: looking at it | 14:26 |
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| boris-42_ | ikhudoshyn: so we already have such places | 14:27 |
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| boris-42_ | ikhudoshyn: and we need to do such changes in backward compatible way | 14:27 |
| boris-42_ | ikhudoshyn: otherwise we will be break installations | 14:27 |
| boris-42_ | ikhudoshyn: in any case we need to create some guide about how to write plguins | 14:27 |
| boris-42_ | with such rules | 14:27 |
| ikhudoshyn | boris-42_, i see | 14:28 |
| boris-42_ | ikhudoshyn: however why not using kwargs word? | 14:28 |
| boris-42_ | ikhudoshyn: I mean cinder_kwargs, nova_kwargs | 14:28 |
| boris-42_ | ikhudoshyn: seems ok for me | 14:28 |
| ikhudoshyn | well my 'kwargs' point is secondary | 14:28 |
| ikhudoshyn | I was against using cinder_kwargs for cinder and just **kwargs for nova | 14:29 |
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| ikhudoshyn | i.e. call method(cinder_kwargs={'param': 'val'}, nova_kwarg='param') looks ugly for me | 14:30 |
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| ikhudoshyn | i'd like it method(cinder_kwargs={...}, nova_kwargs={..}) | 14:30 |
| chenli | ikhudoshyn: +1 | 14:30 |
| boris-42_ | so you wrote the same=) | 14:30 |
| ikhudoshyn | boris-42_, nope | 14:31 |
| boris-42_ | ah I see nova_kwargs='' | 14:31 |
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| ikhudoshyn | gimme a sec, i'll put it in detail | 14:31 |
| boris-42_ | ikhudoshyn: yep that's ugly | 14:31 |
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| ikhudoshyn | I realize that changing that will break compatibility with possible custom task configs | 14:32 |
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| boris-42_ | ikhudoshyn: no we must not break compatiblity | 14:33 |
| ikhudoshyn | yet it's ugly | 14:33 |
| boris-42_ | ikhudoshyn: so we can add new argument | 14:33 |
| ikhudoshyn | boris-42_, I see | 14:33 |
| ikhudoshyn | ( | 14:33 |
| boris-42_ | ikhudoshyn: write deprecation warnigns | 14:33 |
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| boris-42_ | ikhudoshyn: and after few releases remove it | 14:33 |
| ikhudoshyn | so we should both add nova_kwargs and keep **kwargs for a while | 14:34 |
| ikhudoshyn | and merge the latter two | 14:34 |
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| ikhudoshyn | that sounds reasonable | 14:35 |
| ikhudoshyn | now about '_kwargs' suffix | 14:35 |
| ikhudoshyn | this one should get into task configuration | 14:35 |
| ikhudoshyn | for me it would look unnatural there | 14:36 |
| ikhudoshyn | since it's just python-specific term | 14:36 |
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| ikhudoshyn | _config or _args looks better | 14:36 |
| ikhudoshyn | or _params | 14:36 |
| boris-42_ | ikhudoshyn: we can make args for example | 14:36 |
| ikhudoshyn | like cinder_params | 14:37 |
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| ikhudoshyn | args are just fine | 14:37 |
| ikhudoshyn | cinder_args, nova_args -- look good | 14:37 |
| ikhudoshyn | but.. should we have service-specific names or method-specific | 14:38 |
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| ikhudoshyn | like nova_args or create_vm_args? | 14:38 |
| ikhudoshyn | I mean there could be several nova- calls in scenario | 14:39 |
| boris-42_ | ikhudoshyn: yep params sounds good | 14:39 |
| ikhudoshyn | which could require specific params | 14:39 |
| boris-42_ | ikhudoshyn: we need to standartize this across all plguins in rally | 14:39 |
| ikhudoshyn | yes | 14:39 |
| boris-42_ | ikhudoshyn: could you report a bug? | 14:39 |
| ikhudoshyn | thats what I'm talking about | 14:39 |
| ikhudoshyn | yes | 14:40 |
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| ikhudoshyn | will do | 14:40 |
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| ikhudoshyn | but I guess spec looks more suitable here | 14:41 |
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| ikhudoshyn | or bug+spec :)) | 14:41 |
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| boris-42_ | ikhudoshyn: ok | 14:42 |
| ikhudoshyn | deal | 14:42 |
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| ikhudoshyn | that's all from my side | 14:42 |
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| chenli | I have a question, about when to use object and when to use dict | 14:42 |
| chenli | I'm just a little confused now. | 14:42 |
| ikhudoshyn | chenli, we need some more context | 14:43 |
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| chenli | We have module objects, but we want all db request return dict. | 14:43 |
| chenli | and also a a Struct class in utils. | 14:43 |
| rvasilets | o/ | 14:43 |
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| boris-42_ | chenli: so objects must work with rally.common.db.api as a with objects | 14:44 |
| boris-42_ | chenli: we must not use there sqla models | 14:44 |
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| chenli | So, objects get return value from rally.common.db.api ==> get dict ? | 14:45 |
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| boris-42_ | chenli: yep | 14:47 |
| boris-42_ | chenli: that was the goal of your task | 14:47 |
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| chenli | I can understand the usage of objects, because other projects do that too, such as nova and so on. but they would convert return value from db into the objects, and then use objects in other place. | 14:47 |
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| chenli | I don't really understand how we call objects.xx then get a dict. | 14:48 |
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| chenli | looks weird. | 14:48 |
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| boris-42_ | chenli: it's not nova objects | 14:48 |
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| boris-42_ | chenli: it's not even close to nova objects | 14:49 |
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| chenli | boris-42_: o ? | 14:49 |
| boris-42_ | chenli: did you look at code of nova objects? | 14:49 |
| boris-42_ | chenli: did you look at code of rally objects? | 14:50 |
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| boris-42_ | chenli: no matching at all | 14:50 |
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| chenli | boris-42_: a little, it just call db api, and do nothing else. | 14:50 |
| boris-42_ | chenli: even in use cases | 14:50 |
| boris-42_ | chenli: in case of rally objects you are doing extra work (called business logic) in objects | 14:50 |
| boris-42_ | chenli: that doesn't belong to DB layer but that is used many time across the code | 14:51 |
| boris-42_ | chenli: that is why we have rally.objects | 14:51 |
| boris-42_ | chenli: rally.common.db.api should execute the DB queries | 14:52 |
| boris-42_ | chenli: and return dicts | 14:52 |
| boris-42_ | chenli: rally.objects will work with this dicts | 14:52 |
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| chenli | boris-42_: it should return dict too ? | 14:52 |
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| boris-42_ | chenli: nope | 14:53 |
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| boris-42_ | chenli: it should return what it returns | 14:53 |
| boris-42_ | chenli: so there are just few places in code where "sqla" models are used outside of db.api and we should remove it | 14:54 |
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| boris-42_ | chenli: I am not sure what is unclear here? | 14:54 |
| chenli | boris-42_: o, this is link to another question. cli module call api module, api call objects | 14:55 |
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| chenli | so if objects return a class created by objects, then cli module should not use it | 14:56 |
| chenli | boris-42_: right ? | 14:56 |
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| boris-42_ | chenli: it the same topic | 14:57 |
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| boris-42_ | chenli: I said that rally.cli module shouldn't use rally.common.db.api directly and should use rally.common.objects insetad | 14:57 |
| boris-42_ | chenli: the another thing is rally.common.db.api should return plain dicts instead of sqlamodels | 14:57 |
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| boris-42_ | oh no objects | 14:58 |
| boris-42_ | sorry | 14:58 |
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| boris-42_ | rally.cli -> rally.api -> rally.bojects | 14:58 |
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| boris-42_ | where rally.cli is on one host | 14:58 |
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| boris-42_ | rally.api and rally.boject and rally.db on another | 14:59 |
| boris-42_ | this is required to create rally as a service | 14:59 |
| boris-42_ | okay we have to end meeting | 14:59 |
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| boris-42_ | #endmeeting | 14:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Dec 7 14:59:29 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rally/2015/rally.2015-12-07-14.01.html | 14:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rally/2015/rally.2015-12-07-14.01.txt | 14:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rally/2015/rally.2015-12-07-14.01.log.html | 14:59 |
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| anteaya | #startmeeting third-party | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Dec 7 15:00:50 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is anteaya. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'third_party' | 15:00 |
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| anteaya | hello | 15:01 |
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| redixin | annyong haseyo | 15:01 |
| anteaya | are you here for the third party meeting redixin? | 15:02 |
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| redixin | anteaya: I just want to read. Sorry for bothering | 15:02 |
| anteaya | no worries | 15:03 |
| mmedvede | hi | 15:03 |
| anteaya | hi mmedvede | 15:03 |
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| anteaya | mmedvede: how are you today? | 15:03 |
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| mmedvede | anteaya: good, thanks. Yourself? | 15:04 |
| anteaya | mmedvede: good thank you | 15:04 |
| anteaya | so let's proceed | 15:04 |
| anteaya | the docs ptl has posted to -dev about neutron driver documentation | 15:05 |
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| lennyb_ | Hi | 15:05 |
| anteaya | #link neutron driver documentation change http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-December/081527.html | 15:05 |
| anteaya | hi lennyb_ | 15:05 |
| anteaya | so read that email and reply if need be if you are affected by the neutron driver documentation change | 15:05 |
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| anteaya | well actually it would probably be best to ask in neutron if you need clarification first | 15:06 |
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| anteaya | then reply on the thread if need by | 15:06 |
| anteaya | need be | 15:06 |
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| anteaya | aslo for ironic third party operators | 15:07 |
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| anteaya | #link list of deadlines and resources for ironic third party operators: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-December/080867.html | 15:07 |
| anteaya | if you are talking to anyone involved with ironic third party things please point them at that thread | 15:07 |
| anteaya | thanks | 15:07 |
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| anteaya | does anyone have anything they would like to discuss today? | 15:08 |
| lennyb_ | anteaya: no. | 15:08 |
| anteaya | lennyb_: thanks | 15:09 |
| anteaya | mmedvede: anything on your mind today? | 15:09 |
| mmedvede | I have nothing to add. Although I did have to turn our CI off because stability problems :( | 15:09 |
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| anteaya | oh? | 15:10 |
| mmedvede | but that is specific to our platform, so no point of discussing it | 15:10 |
| anteaya | :( | 15:10 |
| anteaya | okay | 15:10 |
| anteaya | did you update your system wikipage? | 15:10 |
| anteaya | so folks who are curious are appraised of your status? | 15:10 |
| mmedvede | yes, I did | 15:10 |
| anteaya | thanks | 15:10 |
| anteaya | okay anything else from anyone? | 15:10 |
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| anteaya | any objection to me closing the meeting? | 15:11 |
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| mmedvede | none from me | 15:11 |
| anteaya | thanks | 15:11 |
| anteaya | okay thanks for being here today folks | 15:12 |
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| anteaya | enjoy the rest of your day/evening | 15:12 |
| anteaya | see you next week | 15:12 |
| lennyb_ | anteaya: u2 | 15:12 |
| anteaya | #endmeeting | 15:12 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Dec 7 15:12:17 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:12 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2015/third_party.2015-12-07-15.00.html | 15:12 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2015/third_party.2015-12-07-15.00.txt | 15:12 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2015/third_party.2015-12-07-15.00.log.html | 15:12 |
| anteaya | lennyb_: thanks | 15:12 |
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| nmakhotkin | #startmeeting Mistral | 15:59 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Dec 7 15:59:46 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is nmakhotkin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:59 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Mistral)" | 15:59 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'mistral' | 15:59 |
| nmakhotkin | hi everyone! | 15:59 |
| ^Gal^ | hi | 16:00 |
| nmakhotkin | glad to see you on our community meeting! :) | 16:00 |
| nmakhotkin | hi, ^Gal^ | 16:00 |
| akuznetsova | hi | 16:00 |
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| LimorStotland | hi all | 16:02 |
| dzimine | Hello! | 16:02 |
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| nmakhotkin | hi, LimorStotland, dzimine! | 16:04 |
| nmakhotkin | let's start | 16:04 |
| nmakhotkin | #topic Review action items | 16:04 |
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| nmakhotkin | 1. rakhmerov, melisha: design "Mistral HA" and "Multi-region support" during M-2 | 16:05 |
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| melisha | Still need to be done. I will schedule a meeting with Renat | 16:06 |
| nmakhotkin | ooh, ok | 16:06 |
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| nmakhotkin | I'll move it to next meeting | 16:06 |
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| melisha | Thanks! | 16:06 |
| nmakhotkin | #action rakhmerov, melisha: design "Mistral HA" and "Multi-region support" during M-2 | 16:06 |
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| nmakhotkin | 2. nikolaym: move incomplete bps to m-2 | 16:07 |
| nmakhotkin | it's done | 16:07 |
| nmakhotkin | 3. mark https://blueprints.launchpad.net/mistral/+spec/mistral-ceilometer-actions as 'implemented' | 16:08 |
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| nmakhotkin | done | 16:08 |
| nmakhotkin | 4. mark https://blueprints.launchpad.net/mistral/+spec/mistral-osc-plugin as 'implemented' | 16:08 |
| nmakhotkin | done also | 16:09 |
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| nmakhotkin | 5. move https://blueprints.launchpad.net/mistral/+spec/mistral-alternative-rpc to m-2 | 16:09 |
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| nmakhotkin | done too | 16:09 |
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| nmakhotkin | #topic Current status | 16:09 |
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| nmakhotkin | guys, let's share our statuses :) | 16:10 |
| melisha | Working on bugfix https://review.openstack.org/#/c/253819/ | 16:10 |
| LimorStotland | my status: reviewing code and working on internal alcatel issues | 16:10 |
| nmakhotkin | my status: reviewing patches, all last week was busy with another activities not related to mistral | 16:11 |
| ^Gal^ | I'm on execution screen auto refresh (UI side) | 16:11 |
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| nmakhotkin | melisha, does it really fix the problem? have you tested it somehow? | 16:12 |
| mgershen | Working on bugfix https://review.openstack.org/#/c/252110/ | 16:13 |
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| nmakhotkin | if it fixes affected env that will be very cool :) | 16:13 |
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| ddeja | nmakhotkin: I've applied melishas patches on my env and it fixed my problems (task stuck in running state) | 16:14 |
| melisha | nmakhotkin: :-) I have tested it. I added some unit tests that reproduce the issue without the fix + I applied this patch on our prod like env and the issue did not reproduce | 16:14 |
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| melisha | ddeja: Thanks for the confirmation. | 16:14 |
| nmakhotkin | melisha, ddeja, fine | 16:14 |
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| nmakhotkin | ok, let's move to the next topic | 16:15 |
| nmakhotkin | #topic M-1 release | 16:16 |
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| nmakhotkin | Mistral M-1 (2.0.0.0b1) is released: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/253609/ | 16:16 |
| nmakhotkin | and mistralclient v1.2.0: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/252987, | 16:17 |
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| nmakhotkin | AFAIK, need to do a planning for the next dev cycle - M-2 | 16:19 |
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| melisha | nmakhotkin: You want to do that now or a dedicated meeting? | 16:21 |
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| nmakhotkin | I think we'll do it on a separate meeting | 16:22 |
| melisha | nmakhotkin: OK | 16:22 |
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| nmakhotkin | I need to discuss that with rakhmerov | 16:22 |
| nmakhotkin | #action nmakhotkin: discuss with rakhmerov about M-2 planning and do planning | 16:23 |
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| nmakhotkin | I'll share the date and time on our regular channel | 16:23 |
| nmakhotkin | move to open discussion | 16:24 |
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| nmakhotkin | #topic Open Discussion | 16:24 |
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| nmakhotkin | melisha, I have a question for you | 16:24 |
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| melisha | nmakhotkin: Sure | 16:24 |
| nmakhotkin | you told about a new bug created by that fix | 16:25 |
| melisha | nmakhotkin: I think it is an existing bug that my fix increases the changes to reproduce it | 16:25 |
| nmakhotkin | could you describe what happen there? | 16:25 |
| nmakhotkin | ooh | 16:25 |
| melisha | nmakhotkin: Sure. I have sent Renat and you a detailed email about this. | 16:26 |
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| melisha | nmakhotkin: I can send it to the mailing list | 16:26 |
| nmakhotkin | yes, please send :) | 16:28 |
| nmakhotkin | also I'll review your patch again | 16:29 |
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| melisha | nmakhotkin: I just now sent it to the mailing list. | 16:29 |
| melisha | Thanks | 16:29 |
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| melisha | nmakhotkin: Can I ask you something regarding pep8? | 16:30 |
| nmakhotkin | yes, sure | 16:30 |
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| nmakhotkin | btw, I've received your email about this | 16:31 |
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| nmakhotkin | I try to reproduce and see what the reason is | 16:31 |
| melisha | When we run "cd /opt/stack/mistral ; tox -e pep8" on our DevStacks - we get a lot of errors (like D100 Missing docstring in public module, D102 Missing docstring in public method, …) | 16:31 |
| melisha | nmakhotkin: Oh. OK. Thanks. | 16:32 |
| nmakhotkin | akuznetsova, could you help us? :) | 16:32 |
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| akuznetsova | nmakhotkin, I missed context | 16:32 |
| nmakhotkin | a lot of errors with pep8 when running tox -epep8 | 16:33 |
| nmakhotkin | I'll send you an email | 16:33 |
| melisha | nmakhotkin, akuznetsova: When we run pep8 on DevStack we get a lot of errors that are skipped / ignored in the gate-mistral-pep8 | 16:33 |
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| melisha | nmakhotkin> akuznetsova: Thank you both | 16:33 |
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| melisha | nmakhotkin> akuznetsova: It seems that somehow I have a wrong rules file for pep8 | 16:34 |
| ddeja | melisha: I've got same on my devstack. It's due to flake8-docstrings package beeing installed | 16:34 |
| akuznetsova | melisha, actually it is strange... | 16:34 |
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| ddeja | but I don't know why it is installed... | 16:34 |
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| melisha | ddeja: Did you resolve the issue? | 16:35 |
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| melisha | Can I simply remove that package? | 16:35 |
| ddeja | melisha: i didn't try that | 16:35 |
| ddeja | I've only checked that on other VM I don't have that package and pep8 test is OK | 16:36 |
| nmakhotkin | melisha, you could try | 16:36 |
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| melisha | Trying now... | 16:37 |
| nmakhotkin | melisha, pep8 could be run in venv and there should not be some additional packages | 16:37 |
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| melisha | Works! | 16:37 |
| melisha | Interesting... | 16:37 |
| nmakhotkin | cool | 16:37 |
| melisha | ddeja: Thanks for the tip! | 16:37 |
| ddeja | melisha: no problem | 16:38 |
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| ddeja | nmakhotkin: Whats interesting, I've run my tests in venv, but this package was still present | 16:38 |
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| nmakhotkin | ddeja, it seems some other package installs it | 16:39 |
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| nmakhotkin | need to add a bug in LP about that | 16:39 |
| LimorStotland | I will open | 16:41 |
| nmakhotkin | ok, thanks | 16:42 |
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| nmakhotkin | #action: LimorStotland: create the bug related to pep8 fails | 16:43 |
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| nmakhotkin | guys, do you have anything to discuss? | 16:44 |
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| nmakhotkin | otherwise I end the meeting | 16:44 |
| nmakhotkin | 5 | 16:44 |
| nmakhotkin | 4 | 16:44 |
| nmakhotkin | 3 | 16:45 |
| nmakhotkin | 2 | 16:45 |
| nmakhotkin | 1 | 16:45 |
| LimorStotland | https://bugs.launchpad.net/mistral/+bug/1523590 | 16:45 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1523590 in Mistral "pep8 failed because flake8-docstrings" [Undecided,New] | 16:45 |
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| melisha | :-) | 16:45 |
| nmakhotkin | you're fast :) | 16:45 |
| LimorStotland | That me speedy :-) | 16:45 |
| nmakhotkin | so, I end the meeting | 16:45 |
| nmakhotkin | thanks guys for attending! | 16:45 |
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| melisha | Thanks! Bye | 16:46 |
| nmakhotkin | bye! | 16:46 |
| LimorStotland | Thanks Bey | 16:46 |
| ddeja | bye | 16:46 |
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| nmakhotkin | #endmeeting | 16:46 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Dec 7 16:46:34 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:46 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2015/mistral.2015-12-07-15.59.html | 16:46 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2015/mistral.2015-12-07-15.59.txt | 16:46 |
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| matjazp | #startmeeting training-guides | 17:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Dec 7 17:01:37 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is matjazp. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'training_guides' | 17:01 |
| matjazp | hi all | 17:01 |
| matjazp | anyone here for the meeting? | 17:01 |
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| matjazp | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/training-guides-meeting-agenda | 17:02 |
| matjazp | #info meeting agenda is in Etherpad at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/training-guides-meeting-agenda | 17:02 |
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| matjazp | #action matjazp sends a reminder for the meeting on the Docs ML | 17:07 |
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| matjazp | let's do some status updates and end the meeting | 17:08 |
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| matjazp | #info a complete Korean translation of the Upstream training is officially published at http://docs.openstack.org/ko_KR/upstream-training/ (big thanks to Ian Y. Choi and KATO Tomoyuki) | 17:09 |
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| matjazp | #action matjazp updates eavesdrop meeting info with new link for the meeting agenda | 17:10 |
| matjazp | #endmeeting | 17:11 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Dec 7 17:11:54 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:11 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_guides/2015/training_guides.2015-12-07-17.01.html | 17:11 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_guides/2015/training_guides.2015-12-07-17.01.txt | 17:11 |
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| adam_g | #startmeeting astara | 18:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Dec 7 18:02:22 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is adam_g. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:02 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'astara' | 18:02 |
| adam_g | o/ markmcclain elo markmcclain ryanpetrello | 18:02 |
| markmcclain | o/ | 18:02 |
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| markmcclain | elo is in transit and won't make it today | 18:03 |
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| adam_g | ah ok | 18:04 |
| ryanpetrello | o/ in another meeting | 18:04 |
| adam_g | last week's notes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/astara/2015/astara.2015-11-30-18.00.html | 18:05 |
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| adam_g | #topic Outstanding project rename tasks | 18:05 |
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| adam_g | i think we've finished off all the repo/modules/code renaming | 18:05 |
| adam_g | one final trivial is here and then we can cut the mitaka-1 tags | 18:05 |
| adam_g | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/253848/ | 18:06 |
| adam_g | also, it would be nice to get this in before tagging as well, just trivial doc update that needs a quick rebase (ill do just after the meeting) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/252699/ | 18:06 |
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| adam_g | then i will tag mitaka-1 this AM | 18:07 |
| markmcclain | adam_g: should we also rev that one to update akanda.neutron to astara_neutron in line 104-5? | 18:07 |
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| adam_g | markmcclain, which? i dont see that | 18:07 |
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| markmcclain | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/253848/1/devstack/plugin.sh | 18:08 |
| markmcclain | Line 104 | 18:08 |
| adam_g | markmcclain, oh, i see. sure | 18:08 |
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| adam_g | one sec | 18:09 |
| markmcclain | want me to rev that? | 18:09 |
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| adam_g | done | 18:09 |
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| markmcclain | adam_g: line 105 too | 18:10 |
| markmcclain | there's a couple of references.. I can clean it up while we keep going with the meeting | 18:10 |
| adam_g | ya | 18:10 |
| adam_g | lets look at it then | 18:10 |
| adam_g | so http://astara.readthedocs.org/en/latest/ publishes docs from the right place, but they are still mostly out of dates WRT akanda vs astara | 18:10 |
| adam_g | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/252699/ addresses that, ill rebase it after meeting | 18:11 |
| adam_g | #action merge doc changes at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/252699/ (adam_g) | 18:11 |
| adam_g | #topic Mitaka Development | 18:11 |
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| adam_g | the renaming has occupied most of our cycles for mitaka-1. with that behind on we should be cracking on mitaka features/changes now | 18:12 |
| adam_g | markmcclain, did you have any spec/POC going yet for the BYONF thing? | 18:12 |
| markmcclain | I was occupied with the rename | 18:12 |
| markmcclain | so have have working on the BYO stuff this morning | 18:12 |
| adam_g | neat | 18:13 |
| adam_g | davidlenwell, where are you at with the CI updates? | 18:13 |
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| adam_g | ... not sure he's around | 18:14 |
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| adam_g | anyway.. hopefully we'll get some movement on new mitaka stuff before the xmas slowdown | 18:14 |
| adam_g | #action markmclain to get poc/spec up this week for BYO NF feature | 18:15 |
| adam_g | #topic open discussion | 18:15 |
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| adam_g | anyone have anything? | 18:15 |
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| markmcclain | nothing else from me | 18:15 |
| adam_g | ok. short and sweet. tty later | 18:16 |
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| adam_g | #endmeeting | 18:16 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/astara/2015/astara.2015-12-07-18.02.html | 18:16 |
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| armax | hi | 20:59 |
| salv-orlando | aloha | 20:59 |
| xgerman | hi | 20:59 |
| hichihara | hi | 20:59 |
| yamamoto | hi | 20:59 |
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| annp | Hi | 20:59 |
| hoangcx | hi | 20:59 |
| pchadwick | hello everyone | 20:59 |
| kevinbenton | Hi everybody! | 20:59 |
| HenryG | o/ | 20:59 |
| amuller | hiya | 20:59 |
| rtheis | hi | 20:59 |
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| mlavalle | o/ | 21:00 |
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| haleyb | hi | 21:00 |
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| armax | @startmeeting networking | 21:00 |
| boden | howdy | 21:00 |
| Swami | hi | 21:00 |
| rkukura | hi | 21:00 |
| mhickey | Hello | 21:00 |
| armax | #startmeeting networking | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Dec 7 21:00:23 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is armax. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
| miyagishi_t | hi | 21:00 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: networking)" | 21:00 | |
| dasm_ | hey all | 21:00 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking' | 21:00 |
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| dougwig | o/ | 21:00 |
| yamahata | hello | 21:00 |
| emagana | hello all! | 21:00 |
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| mestery | o/ | 21:00 |
| Sukhdev | hello | 21:00 |
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| armax | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/Meetings | 21:00 |
| Sam-I-Am | yo | 21:01 |
| armax | hi folks | 21:01 |
| dpk_ | Hello | 21:01 |
| mlavalle | emagana: back to your original nickname :-) | 21:01 |
| johnbelamaric | hello | 21:01 |
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| emagana | mlavalle: yeap.. laptop all receoved | 21:01 |
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| emagana | recovered* | 21:01 |
| armax | mestery: he’ll have to supply one after he’s fully recovered, I suppose | 21:01 |
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| mestery | armax: Damn straight :) | 21:01 |
| mlavalle | mestery: garyk is celebrating Hanukah | 21:01 |
| armax | Mitaka 1 is past us | 21:01 |
| blogan | o/ | 21:02 |
| johnsom | o/ | 21:02 |
| markmcclain | o/ | 21:02 |
| Sukhdev | armax : congratulations for M1 | 21:02 |
| armax | I suggested that we take this week’s meeting to talk mostly about blueprints | 21:02 |
| armax | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-December/081468.html | 21:02 |
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| armax | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-December/081468.html | 21:02 |
| njohnston | o/ | 21:02 |
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| armax | so I’ll go over the next section really quick | 21:03 |
| armax | #topic Announcements | 21:03 |
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| armax | Mitaka-1 is out | 21:03 |
| armax | #link https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/mitaka-1 | 21:03 |
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| armax | now the release schedule is captured here: | 21:03 |
| armax | #link http://docs.openstack.org/releases/schedules/mitaka.html | 21:03 |
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| carl_baldwin | o/ | 21:04 |
| john-davidge | o/ | 21:04 |
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| armax | another news worth sharing a global pep8 validation https://review.openstack.org/#/c/253676 | 21:04 |
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| dougwig | armax: that's good news. | 21:05 |
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| armax | this means that the execution of your local pep8 job may pass | 21:05 |
| armax | but the global one may fail | 21:05 |
| dasm_ | armax: how is it? why? | 21:05 |
| dasm_ | are there any differences? | 21:05 |
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| armax | dasm_: yes, look at that link | 21:05 |
| dougwig | armax: how so? cached sdist? | 21:05 |
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| armax | dougwig: because the extra check is done in the gate | 21:06 |
| armax | job that calls the pep8 | 21:06 |
| armax | tox target | 21:06 |
| dougwig | we could detect the gate, and run the same check locally. | 21:06 |
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| armax | dougwig: we could, but we painted a while when the patch was posted | 21:07 |
| armax | dougwig: you’re welcome to continue to paint if you like, but not now :) | 21:07 |
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| Sam-I-Am | we are artists | 21:07 |
| dougwig | armax: indeed. | 21:07 |
| salv-orlando | armax: what did you paint? | 21:07 |
| salv-orlando | a bikeshed? | 21:07 |
| armax | salv-orlando: yes | 21:07 |
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| armax | #topic Bugs | 21:08 |
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| armax | dougwig: anything worth sharing? | 21:08 |
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| armax | for the first time we reversed the trend | 21:08 |
| dougwig | not a crazy week. lots of rfe's, one gate meltdown due to pylint requirements, since fixed, and one intermittent failure in the lbaas gate. | 21:08 |
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| dougwig | one item of news, linuxbridge is now voting and in our gate. | 21:08 |
| Sam-I-Am | woohoo | 21:08 |
| mestery | yay for linuxbridge | 21:08 |
| * sc68cal hides | 21:09 | |
| armax | we went from 350+ bugs active to 250+ | 21:09 |
| mestery | Nice work sc68cal and dougwig :) | 21:09 |
| dougwig | it's all sc68cal | 21:09 |
| mestery | boo for dougwig | 21:09 |
| mestery | ;) | 21:09 |
| Sam-I-Am | sc68cal: get back here | 21:09 |
| regXboi | I guess I should say that I believe oslo-utils is rather sick right now | 21:09 |
| amuller | regXboi: but the fix is already merged | 21:09 |
| armax | dougwig: was the decision already made? | 21:09 |
| regXboi | amuller: cool - I missed that | 21:09 |
| amuller | regXboi: or approved rather, anyway nothing we can do but wait | 21:09 |
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| dougwig | armax: the review merged in about 3 nanoseconds; i had wanted to discuss it here first. | 21:09 |
| HenryG | A bunch of bugs expired recently. I think Cedric can get the kudos for that, from what he did 2 months ago. | 21:10 |
| regXboi | amuller: ack - I have a recheck queued and waiting :) | 21:10 |
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| armax | dougwig: I noticed the on demand agenda item, yes | 21:10 |
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| dougwig | armax: we can still discuss that, and revert based on the result. but as of *right now*, it's voting/gating. | 21:10 |
| regXboi | I'd like to talk about making multinode-full voting again when we get there :) | 21:10 |
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| armax | dougwig: ok | 21:11 |
| dougwig | regXboi: i'd want to retire single node if so. | 21:11 |
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| amuller | dougwig++ | 21:11 |
| armax | dougwig: we can’t retire the single node, no | 21:11 |
| mestery | dougwig: ++ | 21:11 |
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| regXboi | armax: what's your conditions for retiring singlenode-full for multinode-full? | 21:11 |
| armax | if other integrated projects still rely on it | 21:11 |
| Sam-I-Am | too bad we cant use containers to emulate multi-node on a single vm | 21:11 |
| sc68cal | Sam-I-Am: that's .... sort of what functional does | 21:12 |
| sc68cal | Sam-I-Am: I think just net namespaces though | 21:12 |
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| armax | dougwig: anything else for bugs? | 21:12 |
| amuller | We could use Kolla eventually to deploy and run tests on that | 21:12 |
| dougwig | armax: no, that's it. | 21:12 |
| dougwig | actually, one bit. | 21:13 |
| Sam-I-Am | amuller: or openstack-ansible :) | 21:13 |
| amuller | Sam-I-Am: or that yeah | 21:13 |
| mestery | lol | 21:13 |
| dougwig | bug deputy was incredibly educational. i recommend that everyone try it. | 21:13 |
| Sam-I-Am | either way we can have much more thorough testing using containers | 21:13 |
| regXboi | I'd really like to explore that multinode/singlenode topic more thoroughly later this week | 21:13 |
| armax | dougwig: kudos to you for stepping up | 21:13 |
| Sam-I-Am | dougwig: maybe someday i'll grow up enough for it :) | 21:13 |
| armax | regXboi: sure, let’s take this offline | 21:13 |
| regXboi | armax: ack | 21:14 |
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| armax | #topic Blueprints | 21:14 |
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| armax | we are now in M-2 | 21:14 |
| armax | #link https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/mitaka-2 | 21:14 |
| armax | which ends the week of Jan-16 | 21:14 |
| armax | we have a huge backlog | 21:15 |
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| armax | of 20+ blueprints | 21:15 |
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| armax | and a number of RFE’s | 21:15 |
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| dougwig | in other words, they won't all land, so can we nuke some, to focus review resources? | 21:16 |
| armax | that’s not necessarily true, if we stay focussed | 21:16 |
| regXboi | O | 21:16 |
| armax | looking at assignments | 21:16 |
| armax | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/mitaka/+assignments | 21:16 |
| armax | we are relatively balanced right now | 21:16 |
| armax | but there’s always more that meets in the eye | 21:17 |
| regXboi | armax: who is the approver for keystone v3? | 21:17 |
| Sam-I-Am | focus = psychological conditioning a la a clockwork orange? | 21:17 |
| sc68cal | do we have criteria for BPs that we think aren't going to make mitaka and can be moved out? | 21:17 |
| dasm__ | regXboi: there is no one | 21:17 |
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| regXboi | dasm__: that was my point | 21:17 |
| armax | regXboi: good question | 21:17 |
| john-davidge | amrax: I have a question about RFE #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1511574 - Have we reached enough of a consensus that I can go ahaead with a WIP patch, or would you like me to write a spec first? | 21:17 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1511574 in neutron "[RFE] Support cleanup of all resources associated with a given tenant with a single API call" [Wishlist,Triaged] - Assigned to John Davidge (john-davidge) | 21:17 |
| armax | regXboi: let’s go in order thoug | 21:17 |
| armax | though | 21:18 |
| john-davidge | armax: ^ | 21:18 |
| mestery | I think some keystone v3 patches landed over the weekend, right? | 21:18 |
| regXboi | armax: ok | 21:18 |
| mestery | Maybe some small initial ones | 21:18 |
| mestery | Sorry, back on track | 21:18 |
| armax | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/l2-api-extensions | 21:18 |
| xgerman | mystery it broke devstack... | 21:18 |
| armax | rossella and ihar are not here | 21:18 |
| xgerman | mestery | 21:18 |
| armax | so that’s easy | 21:18 |
| armax | ajo: you there? | 21:18 |
| mestery | What broke devstack xgerman? | 21:18 |
| mestery | xgerman: The v3 changes? | 21:19 |
| armax | I’ll have to reach out to them offline | 21:19 |
| xgerman | yep, but I think it’s fluid | 21:19 |
| armax | kevinbenton: ping | 21:19 |
| mestery | xgerman: nice | 21:19 |
| amuller | john-davidge: Sorry I didn't respond on that bug. Did you consider the idea of doing this with a client side script so that we wouldn't have to commit to an API, provided I push the cross project spec? | 21:19 |
| armax | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/port-scheduler | 21:19 |
| amuller | john-davidge: or we can take this offline after the meeting | 21:19 |
| armax | carl_baldwin: ping | 21:20 |
| kevinbenton | armax: here | 21:20 |
| regXboi | john-davidge, amuller: I thought there was a blueprint to do something similar as part of mistral | 21:20 |
| carl_baldwin | armax: hi | 21:20 |
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| armax | it looks like this is missing code, specs, etc | 21:20 |
| amuller | regXboi: I'll check that out thanks | 21:20 |
| armax | what’s the latest? | 21:20 |
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| regXboi | amuller: ack | 21:21 |
| john-davidge | amuller: I’d prefer to expose it via the API from the beginning, but I’m open to discusion. We can take it offline | 21:21 |
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| kevinbenton | Yes, it won't really go anywhere until we get the routed networks figured out I think | 21:21 |
| armax | kevinbenton: so there’s a strict depedency between the two? | 21:21 |
| john-davidge | regXboi: Do you have a link to the BP? | 21:21 |
| sc68cal | I think that's how RAX was solving their issue - segment aware scheduler | 21:21 |
| carl_baldwin | armax: I think the port scheduler is a piece that routed networks needs. I'm not sure about the other way around. | 21:21 |
| kevinbenton | armax: my original hope was that it would be useful for get me a network too | 21:21 |
| regXboi | john-davidge: not handy, 'll have to look offline | 21:22 |
| regXboi | er *I'll* | 21:22 |
| john-davidge | regXboi: Ok, thanks | 21:22 |
| kevinbenton | armax: but that is taking a different route than I envisioned | 21:22 |
| sc68cal | since work for l3 networks is still in progress | 21:22 |
| armax | ok. Sounds good if you guys put something in writing to shed some light on it? | 21:22 |
| kevinbenton | armax: I can do that | 21:22 |
| carl_baldwin | armax: I'll help. | 21:22 |
| Sam-I-Am | i need to split a bit early today... there's no docs stuff anyway | 21:22 |
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| armax | even something in the whiteboard would suffice to start with | 21:23 |
| carl_baldwin | armax: There is some stuff that should be vetted with Nova. Having it in writing would help. | 21:23 |
| armax | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/multi-l3-backends | 21:23 |
| armax | kevinbenton: you’re tagged again | 21:23 |
| kevinbenton | Working on the spec for that now | 21:24 |
| armax | kevinbenton: ok cool | 21:24 |
| kevinbenton | Hoping to get it up this week | 21:24 |
| armax | kevinbenton you’re not oversubscribed are you? | 21:24 |
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| armax | kevinbenton: currently you have 4 bp’s you’re playing a major role on | 21:24 |
| kevinbenton | Well several are blocked pending other stuff | 21:25 |
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| kevinbenton | The agent notification refactor can't move forward until objects are done | 21:25 |
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| armax | kevinbenton: ok | 21:26 |
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| armax | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/get-me-a-network | 21:26 |
| armax | HenryG, haleyb: ping | 21:26 |
| HenryG | armax: yo | 21:26 |
| armax | any news on this one? | 21:26 |
| armax | did we move an inch? | 21:26 |
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| HenryG | I am playing with the patch, but still need to sync up with haleyb | 21:27 |
| haleyb | i continue to work on the code, didn't talk to henry last week | 21:27 |
| HenryG | haleyb: we'll talk tomorrow | 21:27 |
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| haleyb | HenryG: ack | 21:27 |
| armax | once you chat, can you guys share your notes on the ML? | 21:27 |
| armax | to keep the team in the loop? | 21:28 |
| HenryG | armax: will do | 21:28 |
| armax | HenryG: thanks! | 21:28 |
| armax | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/external-dns-resolution | 21:28 |
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| armax | carl_baldwin, mlavalle: ping | 21:28 |
| mlavalle | armax: hi | 21:28 |
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| armax | this must be pretty close, no? | 21:28 |
| armax | what’s missing? | 21:29 |
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| mlavalle | functionality is complete. Last night I finished debugging all the code | 21:29 |
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| mlavalle | right now I am cleaning up the Jenkins tests and after that I think it is very close | 21:29 |
| mlavalle | expect Jenkins tests to be clean tomorrow night | 21:29 |
| armax | mlavalle: so we’re feature complete, but we miss tests and docs? | 21:29 |
| armax | feature complete both server and client side? | 21:30 |
| mlavalle | armax: feature complete both sides | 21:30 |
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| mlavalle | I am adding doc in dervref as I am pushing patchsets | 21:30 |
| mlavalle | I added a doc to devref last night | 21:30 |
| armax | ok, so tests and docs missing then? | 21:30 |
| carl_baldwin | mlavalle: I'm on tap for reviews. :) | 21:31 |
| mlavalle | and I have to add some unit tests | 21:31 |
| armax | carl_baldwin: the hose is better? | 21:31 |
| armax | : | 21:31 |
| armax | :) | 21:31 |
| carl_baldwin | lol | 21:31 |
| armax | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/modular-l2-agent | 21:31 |
| mlavalle | also thanks fto garyk... he's been providing instantaneous reviews over the past 3 weeks, providing excellent guidance | 21:31 |
| armax | garyk kudos | 21:32 |
| armax | ihar is not here | 21:32 |
| sc68cal | armax: I think I can comment on this spec | 21:32 |
| armax | sc68cal: go for it | 21:32 |
| mlavalle | I push in the evening and by the following morning I have a complete review from him | 21:32 |
| armax | sc68cal: link please? | 21:32 |
| armax | sc68cal: ? | 21:33 |
| sc68cal | armax: for the spec or code? I think it is just an rfe - https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1468803 | 21:33 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1468803 in neutron "[RFE] Create a modular L2 agent framework for linuxbridge, sriov and macvtap agents" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Andreas Scheuring (andreas-scheuring) | 21:33 |
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| armax | sc68cal: on anything you were going to comment on :) | 21:33 |
| sc68cal | I think Andreas is making good progress, he has a couple patches up that breaks the LB agent into pieces so that the main agent can be re-used | 21:34 |
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| sc68cal | the main target is having a macvtap piece that re-uses like 90% of the LB agent code | 21:34 |
| armax | sc68cal: some stuff got caught in the cleaunup tool that abandons patches | 21:34 |
| armax | btw | 21:34 |
| sc68cal | armax: yeah I think those patches were mine and they were correct to be gc'd | 21:34 |
| armax | sc68cal: ok cool | 21:34 |
| sc68cal | since we ended up going in another direction. Anyway progress is good. | 21:34 |
| * sc68cal yields his time | 21:35 | |
| armax | sc68cal: tahnks! | 21:35 |
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| armax | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/restructure-l2-agent | 21:35 |
| armax | yamamoto, rossella_s: ping | 21:35 |
| armax | ok, I’ll take this offline | 21:36 |
| kevinbenton | If rossella_s isn't here, I know she was close to done | 21:36 |
| armax | kevinbenton: there was a setback | 21:36 |
| armax | where we reverted one of her change | 21:36 |
| kevinbenton | Just testing IIRC at this point to make sure the patch doesn't cause a regression again | 21:36 |
| armax | I am not sure if that got resubmitted though | 21:36 |
| kevinbenton | I know, I mean close to that being fixed | 21:37 |
| armax | I’ll touch base with her anyhow, thanks for the update | 21:37 |
| armax | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/neutron-lib | 21:37 |
| salv-orlando | kevinbenton, armax: it's public holiday in rossella_s town, so I think she's not online today | 21:37 |
| armax | salv-orlando: ok | 21:37 |
| armax | dougwig, mestery: how’s it this going? | 21:37 |
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| dougwig | armax: in progress, i need to write the current plan down, and next big hurdle is coming up with a plan of attack for parts of neutron.db. no way will it be finished in m-2. | 21:38 |
| mestery | Some small things are merging at least, but yeah, the bigger stuff not yet | 21:38 |
| armax | ok cool, let’s keep at chewing at this one | 21:39 |
| armax | small progress is better than no progress | 21:39 |
| armax | kudos | 21:39 |
| armax | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/routed-networks | 21:39 |
| armax | carl_baldwin, kevinbenton: you’re up | 21:39 |
| dougwig | it'll go quick once the db stuff is sorted, but that'll be a big rat to swallow. | 21:39 |
| armax | dougwig: ack | 21:39 |
| armax | carl_baldwin, kevinbenton: it looks like we’re still going over the spec phase | 21:39 |
| carl_baldwin | armax: still iterating the spec. | 21:40 |
| kevinbenton | Yes, the current state is something that will work but will require a ton of work | 21:40 |
| carl_baldwin | Some code is in progress as poc | 21:40 |
| armax | carl_baldwin: do you need anyone/anything to get to a final consensus? | 21:40 |
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| carl_baldwin | armax: Let me check the state of the spec since the weekend and see where it is at. | 21:41 |
| armax | carl_baldwin: ok | 21:41 |
| armax | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/add-tags-to-core-resources | 21:42 |
| armax | gsagie isn’t ehre | 21:42 |
| armax | and neither is gary | 21:42 |
| armax | I’ll take this offline | 21:42 |
| armax | #link | 21:42 |
| armax | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/dhcp-options-per-subnet | 21:42 |
| armax | sambetts-afk, amotoki: ping? | 21:42 |
| armax | I’ll take this offline | 21:43 |
| armax | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/fwaas-api-2.0 | 21:43 |
| armax | sc68cal, xgerman: ping | 21:43 |
| sc68cal | armax: pong | 21:43 |
| armax | where are at herE? | 21:43 |
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| armax | still iterating on the spec? | 21:43 |
| xgerman | yes, but we also divvied up the coding work | 21:44 |
| sc68cal | We are close, there is a couple small API details to work out but strong consensus is present | 21:44 |
| armax | sc68cal: that’s nice | 21:44 |
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| xgerman | so I expect us to start work on the non controversial stuff in the meantime | 21:44 |
| armax | xgerman: cool | 21:44 |
| xgerman | likely will miss M2 | 21:45 |
| sc68cal | xgerman: +1 | 21:45 |
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| xgerman | though | 21:45 |
| sc68cal | not for the API | 21:45 |
| xgerman | ok, that’s your piece — just being cautious ;-) | 21:45 |
| sc68cal | I mean the API spec finished probably end of this week | 21:45 |
| armax | xgerman: so long as we make small tangible progress that doesn’t matter | 21:45 |
| xgerman | k, will have API in M | 21:46 |
| armax | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/improve-dvr-l3-agent-binding | 21:46 |
| armax | carl_baldwin, obondarev: ping | 21:46 |
| * carl_baldwin will defer to obondarev | 21:46 | |
| armax | carl_baldwin: this doesn’t have anything on the whiteboard and no RFE bug attached | 21:46 |
| armax | so it looks like there’s nothing tracking this effort? | 21:47 |
| carl_baldwin | armax: Yikes. I can create something. How would you prefer it? | 21:47 |
| kevinbenton | Over easy | 21:47 |
| armax | carl_baldwin: if you know of bugs, patches that are related to it | 21:47 |
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| armax | carl_baldwin: it’d be nice to capture this information on the whiteboard | 21:47 |
| armax | carl_baldwin: even if this meant chaning the patche’s commit messages to reference the bleprint | 21:48 |
| armax | carl_baldwin: thanks | 21:48 |
| carl_baldwin | armax: ok | 21:48 |
| armax | obondarev: ^? | 21:48 |
| armax | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/rename-tenant-to-project | 21:48 |
| armax | dasm_: ping | 21:49 |
| dasm_ | here | 21:49 |
| dasm_ | mordred started with few patches | 21:49 |
| armax | it looks like we’re making small progress here | 21:49 |
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| HenryG | one tweak left and then it's done | 21:49 |
| dasm_ | indeed | 21:49 |
| armax | HenryG: link? | 21:49 |
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| armax | done, is a bold statement | 21:49 |
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| armax | :) | 21:49 |
| armax | we need an approver here | 21:49 |
| armax | any volnteers? | 21:49 |
| armax | it looks like we want to make some headways in this releae | 21:50 |
| armax | release | 21:50 |
| HenryG | well, the api part | 21:50 |
| HenryG | https://review.openstack.org/253782 | 21:50 |
| armax | HenryG: oh right | 21:50 |
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| mordred | woot | 21:50 |
| dougwig | armax: i can review. | 21:50 |
| salv-orlando | armax: what sort of headways? | 21:50 |
| njohnston | 782 | 21:50 |
| armax | HenryG: wanna be the approver? | 21:50 |
| armax | dougwig: no, I want you to be fully focused on neutronlibs | 21:51 |
| HenryG | sure, or amotoki | 21:51 |
| armax | njohnston: what’s 782? | 21:51 |
| * dougwig crawls back into his lib hole. | 21:51 | |
| armax | ok | 21:51 |
| armax | dougwig: :) | 21:51 |
| regXboi | i think that was the ending of the patchset | 21:51 |
| njohnston | apologies, some line noise with my IRC client | 21:51 |
| armax | njohnston: no problemo | 21:51 |
| dasm_ | do we need extra spec for this or ML discussion is enough? http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-December/081304.html | 21:51 |
| armax | dougwig: don’t worry I have something else for you | 21:51 |
| * regXboi shouts "run, dougwig, run!" | 21:52 | |
| armax | dasm_: if we want to be polished we’d take the ML conversation and put into spec format | 21:52 |
| dasm_ | armax: ack | 21:52 |
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| armax | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/performance-counters | 21:52 |
| armax | regXboi, mestery: ping | 21:52 |
| regXboi | yo | 21:52 |
| armax | yo | 21:52 |
| regXboi | part I of devref merged, collector PoC is open for reviews, starting to work on how to store | 21:53 |
| regXboi | (part II of devref) | 21:53 |
| regXboi | I'm almost ready to change status to good progress | 21:53 |
| regXboi | but hadn't yet | 21:53 |
| armax | ok | 21:54 |
| regXboi | that's all I have | 21:54 |
| armax | there’s a part III too is there not? | 21:54 |
| regXboi | there will be | 21:54 |
| armax | ok | 21:54 |
| regXboi | but I'm planning that for after the PoC that codes part II | 21:54 |
| regXboi | M-2 deadline is up in the air | 21:54 |
| armax | regXboi: as I mentioned | 21:55 |
| armax | there’s really no milestone planning | 21:55 |
| armax | everything targets the release and we roll over stuff as it goes | 21:55 |
| regXboi | that was just my guessing progress vs time | 21:55 |
| armax | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/vm-without-l3-address | 21:55 |
| armax | ajo: ping? | 21:55 |
| armax | I’ll take this offline | 21:56 |
| armax | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/security-group-logging | 21:56 |
| mlavalle | a little late for ajo | 21:56 |
| armax | sc68cal, yushiro: ping | 21:56 |
| hoangcx | hi. i am behaft of yushiro | 21:57 |
| hoangcx | we re still on progres of making spec | 21:57 |
| hoangcx | s/re/are | 21:58 |
| armax | ok | 21:58 |
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| armax | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/autogen-neutron-conf-file | 21:58 |
| armax | mhickey: ping | 21:58 |
| mhickey | pong | 21:58 |
| armax | mhickey: what’s left for this to be complete? | 21:58 |
| armax | bulk of the code merged, hasn’t it? | 21:58 |
| mhickey | AFIK just the *aas parts; will need to sync with ihrachys then | 21:58 |
| armax | ok | 21:58 |
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| mhickey | yes, the core parts; even the file removals! :) | 21:59 |
| mhickey | small call out.. | 21:59 |
| sc68cal | timecheck | 21:59 |
| armax | mhickey: *-aas people please help with the reviews | 21:59 |
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| armax | 1 mins | 21:59 |
| regXboi | actually 22 seconds | 21:59 |
| armax | we managed to do only half | 21:59 |
| sc68cal | mhickey: just +2'd the fwaas one | 21:59 |
| mhickey | yes;read my mind! :) thanks armax | 21:59 |
| armax | you guys want to continue this next week? | 21:59 |
| armax | or shall try and continue offline? | 21:59 |
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| mhickey | sc68cal: thanks! :) | 22:00 |
| armax | #endmeeting | 22:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: storyboard)" | 22:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Dec 7 22:00:06 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:00 |
| emagana | armax: Thanks! | 22:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2015/networking.2015-12-07-21.00.html | 22:00 |
| dasm_ | armax: i'd prefer next week | 22:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2015/networking.2015-12-07-21.00.txt | 22:00 |
| yamamoto | bye | 22:00 |
| regXboi | bye | 22:00 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2015/networking.2015-12-07-21.00.log.html | 22:00 |
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| dasm_ | thanks all. bye | 22:00 |
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| hichihara | bye | 22:00 |
| mlavalle | armax: good review any way... focused on the target | 22:00 |
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| kevinbenton | Bye | 22:00 |
| mhickey | bye | 22:00 |
| armax | I’ll follow up on the ML | 22:00 |
| emagana | ciao all | 22:00 |
| sc68cal | over and out | 22:00 |
| hoangcx | bye | 22:00 |
| armax | and gather input | 22:00 |
| carl_baldwin | bye | 22:00 |
| armax | bye everyone | 22:00 |
| xgerman | bye | 22:00 |
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| armax | thanks for joining | 22:00 |
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