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| loquacities | hi everyone | 00:32 |
| loquacities | who's here for the APAC docs meeting? | 00:33 |
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| * bmoss is here | 00:33 | |
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| katomo | hi | 00:33 |
| Sam-I-Am | yo | 00:33 |
| darrenc | hello | 00:33 |
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| loquacities | hello! | 00:33 |
| loquacities | #startmeeting docteam | 00:33 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 16 00:33:56 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is loquacities. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 00:33 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 00:33 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: docteam)" | 00:34 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'docteam' | 00:34 |
| loquacities | roll call! | 00:34 |
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| Sam-I-Am | yo | 00:35 |
| darrenc | here! | 00:35 |
| loquacities | heya | 00:35 |
| bmoss | present | 00:35 |
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| loquacities | asettle: ? | 00:35 |
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| asettle | SORRY | 00:36 |
| asettle | HERE | 00:36 |
| asettle | Oh no | 00:36 |
| loquacities | damn | 00:36 |
| loquacities | netsplit | 00:36 |
| loquacities | looks like we're all on this side of the split, though | 00:36 |
| asettle | That wasn't *so* bad | 00:36 |
| bmoss | way to scare everyone away asettle | 00:36 |
| asettle | Haha aww :( | 00:36 |
| loquacities | so we can probably carry on | 00:36 |
| loquacities | katomo: you still with us? | 00:36 |
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| katomo | yes | 00:37 |
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| loquacities | yay! | 00:37 |
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| loquacities | alright, let's get started | 00:37 |
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| loquacities | #topic Action items from the last meeting | 00:37 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Action items from the last meeting (Meeting topic: docteam)" | 00:37 | |
| loquacities | from the last US meeting: | 00:37 |
| loquacities | HA Guide team needs to determine whether to start publish RST version | 00:38 |
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| loquacities | i've spoken to them about that, and i believe it's going up very soon | 00:38 |
| loquacities | also from that meeting: | 00:38 |
| loquacities | annegentle to remove PDF of Security Guide from lulu.com | 00:38 |
| loquacities | that has been done | 00:38 |
| Sam-I-Am | lulu? | 00:38 |
| loquacities | yeah | 00:38 |
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| loquacities | i think all of our books have been taken down from there now | 00:39 |
| loquacities | #topic Liberty specs in review | 00:39 |
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| loquacities | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/docs-specs,n,z | 00:39 |
| loquacities | i've been going through a lot of the specs in the past week or so, getting ready for summit | 00:39 |
| loquacities | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/191041/ (Third Party driver docs - please read, will be approved shortly) | 00:39 |
| loquacities | that one is ready to be merged, andreas just wanted me to add it into my newsletter before we give it the final OK | 00:40 |
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| loquacities | so that will happen late this week (or early next week) | 00:40 |
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| loquacities | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/219936/ (Fixing up an existing spec - needs a core to merge) | 00:40 |
| loquacities | that's a simple fix, just need another +2 | 00:40 |
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| loquacities | any questions on specs? | 00:41 |
| loquacities | ok | 00:41 |
| loquacities | #topic Speciality teams | 00:41 |
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| loquacities | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/SpecialityTeams | 00:41 |
| loquacities | #info HA Guide - Reviewing content. Any help appreciated. | 00:41 |
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| loquacities | #info Install Guides - Need help testing against Liberty as packages are released. | 00:41 |
| loquacities | Sam-I-Am: did you want to expand on that? | 00:42 |
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| Sam-I-Am | yeah... although most of the testing needs to wait until the architectural change patch goes in | 00:42 |
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| Sam-I-Am | from there its mainly per-service patches to adjust for liberty config options | 00:42 |
| loquacities | yep | 00:42 |
| Sam-I-Am | deprecations, new stuff, etc | 00:43 |
| loquacities | is that patch close? | 00:43 |
| loquacities | i think you had WIP on it last time i looked | 00:43 |
| Sam-I-Am | it builds... | 00:43 |
| loquacities | good start | 00:43 |
| Sam-I-Am | theres a lot more since the last upload | 00:43 |
| Sam-I-Am | namely the neutron config that i'm working on now | 00:43 |
| loquacities | do you need help on that at this stage? | 00:43 |
| Sam-I-Am | its sort of an interesting exercise seeing what i can make common between two options | 00:43 |
| Sam-I-Am | not really, just need to try stuff and see what works best | 00:44 |
| loquacities | ok, cool | 00:44 |
| loquacities | let's move on | 00:44 |
| Sam-I-Am | sometimes trying to make content common doesnt work | 00:44 |
| loquacities | #info Networking Guide - Test & review for Liberty updates. | 00:44 |
| loquacities | Sam-I-Am: you're up again | 00:44 |
| loquacities | anything to add on networking guide? | 00:44 |
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| Sam-I-Am | not too much. kilo updates and general improvements to the scenarios are done. | 00:45 |
| loquacities | cool | 00:45 |
| Sam-I-Am | edgar is working on a qos patch | 00:45 |
| Sam-I-Am | all of the scenarios will need love for liberty again | 00:45 |
| Sam-I-Am | but probably after release, once the install guide is worked out | 00:45 |
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| loquacities | yep | 00:45 |
| loquacities | ok | 00:46 |
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| Sam-I-Am | still looking for contributors. | 00:46 |
| loquacities | #info Security Guide - RST conversion complete, and live. | 00:46 |
| loquacities | #info User Guides - Cloud Admin Guide reorganisation underway. | 00:46 |
| JRobinson__ | So user guide update | 00:46 |
| loquacities | JRobinson__: anything to add on user guides? | 00:46 |
| JRobinson__ | Yes - I have a a patch up one part of a work item | 00:46 |
| loquacities | cool | 00:46 |
| JRobinson__ | The reorganize user guides work item list needs attention | 00:47 |
| JRobinson__ | #info The reorganize user guides work item list needs attention | 00:47 |
| JRobinson__ | ^better | 00:47 |
| loquacities | :) | 00:47 |
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| JRobinson__ | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/ReorganizeUserGuides#The_List_of_Tasks | 00:47 |
| loquacities | is this still targeted at liberty? | 00:48 |
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| JRobinson__ | I am not certain all of the tasks will be complete for the liberty release | 00:49 |
| darrenc | it's a fair bit of work to complete for liberty | 00:49 |
| loquacities | ok, we might need to consider holding off on this and doing it for mitaka instead | 00:49 |
| JRobinson__ | Updated images and refreshed abstracts would be great if possible for the next four weeks. | 00:49 |
| loquacities | when's the next user guide meeting? | 00:49 |
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| JRobinson__ | User guide meeting is scheduled for tomorrow - I need to email out the reminder | 00:50 |
| loquacities | ok, i'll try and attend and we can chat about this further there | 00:50 |
| loquacities | let's move on | 00:50 |
| loquacities | #info Ops/Arch Guides - Prepping for RST conversion in Mitaka. Please let Shilla or Darren know if you want to be involved in this team. | 00:50 |
| loquacities | darrenc: anything to add on ops/arch guides? | 00:50 |
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| darrenc | yes, we're looking to see who can be actively involved on the Ops/Arch guide team | 00:51 |
| loquacities | make sure you ask at summit. in vancouver plenty of people were interested in the ops guide | 00:51 |
| loquacities | so they're out there | 00:51 |
| darrenc | ok, cool | 00:51 |
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| loquacities | thanks darrenc | 00:52 |
| loquacities | #info API docs - See status update #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-August/072557.html | 00:52 |
| Sam-I-Am | interested, but not interested | 00:52 |
| darrenc | I'll also ask on the ops mailing list | 00:52 |
| loquacities | that's probably an old email now, but it's a good overview | 00:52 |
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| loquacities | #info Config Ref - Contact Guavain #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/ConfigRef | 00:52 |
| loquacities | #info OpenStack Labs - Contact Pranav Salunke #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/openstack-labs | 00:52 |
| loquacities | ok, that's all the speciality teams | 00:52 |
| loquacities | anything further on that before we move on? | 00:52 |
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| loquacities | hi sicarie | 00:53 |
| loquacities | #topic Countdown to Liberty | 00:54 |
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| loquacities | #info 29 Days! #link http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/launch?iso=20151015T00&p0=1440&msg=OpenStack+Liberty+Launch+Date&font=hand | 00:54 |
| loquacities | #info Release notes: #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ReleaseNotes/Liberty | 00:54 |
| Sam-I-Am | somuchtodo | 00:54 |
| loquacities | yup | 00:54 |
| loquacities | and less than a month to go ... | 00:54 |
| loquacities | #topic Mitaka Design Summit | 00:54 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Mitaka Design Summit (Meeting topic: docteam)" | 00:54 | |
| loquacities | #info Mitaka PTL elections next week #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/PTL_Elections_September_2015 | 00:54 |
| loquacities | #info We have session allocations for docs now. I'll be asking you for your suggestions in the next week or so. | 00:55 |
| loquacities | any questions on the summit? | 00:55 |
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| loquacities | ok, last item ... | 00:56 |
| loquacities | #topic Spotlight bugs: | 00:56 |
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| loquacities | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1284301 Document Neutron SSL-VPN for cloudadmin | 00:56 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1284301 in openstack-manuals "Document Neutron SSL-VPN for cloudadmin" [Medium,Confirmed] | 00:56 |
| loquacities | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1288044 Add user defined extra capabilities | 00:56 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1288044 in openstack-manuals " Add user defined extra capabilities" [Low,Triaged] | 00:56 |
| loquacities | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1292327 Make cors work better | 00:56 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1292327 in openstack-manuals " Make cors work better." [Medium,Confirmed] | 00:56 |
| loquacities | #topic Open discussion | 00:56 |
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| loquacities | over to you ... | 00:56 |
| Sam-I-Am | not much else here | 00:57 |
| loquacities | cool | 00:57 |
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| asettle | Swell. | 00:57 |
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| loquacities | ok, that's it | 00:57 |
| loquacities | thanks everyone :) | 00:57 |
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| loquacities | #endmeeting | 00:58 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 16 00:58:07 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 00:58 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/docteam/2015/docteam.2015-09-16-00.33.html | 00:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/docteam/2015/docteam.2015-09-16-00.33.txt | 00:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/docteam/2015/docteam.2015-09-16-00.33.log.html | 00:58 |
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| katomo | thanks | 00:58 |
| loquacities | thanks katomo | 00:58 |
| loquacities | congrats on making security docs core, too :) | 00:58 |
| katomo | Ahh :) | 00:59 |
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| sicarie | ahh, too late for the meeting it seems, but yes, congrats katoo, ill add you as soon as i get free time this week | 01:01 |
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| sicarie | katomo, sorry | 01:01 |
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| skraynev | #startmeeting heat | 07:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 16 07:00:16 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is skraynev. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 07:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 07:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: heat)" | 07:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'heat' | 07:00 |
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| stevebaker | skraynev: can you add me to chair? | 07:00 |
| skraynev | #topic rollcall | 07:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "rollcall (Meeting topic: heat)" | 07:00 | |
| asalkeld | o/ | 07:00 |
| skraynev | #chair stevebaker | 07:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: skraynev stevebaker | 07:00 |
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| tspatzier | hi all | 07:00 |
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| skraynev | stevebaker: sure ;) | 07:01 |
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| pas-ha | o/ | 07:01 |
| tiantian | o/ | 07:01 |
| elynn | o/ | 07:01 |
| xek | o/ | 07:01 |
| skraynev | stevebaker: btw, you can continue ;) | 07:01 |
| stevebaker | ok | 07:01 |
| stevebaker | skraynev: wait another 23 hours ;) | 07:01 |
| shardy | o/ | 07:01 |
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| asalkeld | shardy: replied here after ages https://review.openstack.org/#/c/135492/4/doc/source/template_guide/hot_spec.rst (sorry for the delay) | 07:01 |
| stevebaker | #topic Adding items to the agenda | 07:01 |
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| stevebaker | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/HeatAgenda#Agenda_.282015-09-16_0700_UTC.29 | 07:01 |
| skraynev | stevebaker: :) ok | 07:02 |
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| skraynev | wow. so short wiki page ;) | 07:02 |
| shardy | asalkeld: thanks, will check it out, would be good to un-block that work as it could be really useful | 07:02 |
| stevebaker | looks like we have an agenda to merge | 07:02 |
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| stevebaker | fixed it https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/HeatAgenda#Agenda_.282015-09-16_0700_UTC.29 | 07:03 |
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| stevebaker | oki | 07:03 |
| KanagarajM__ | hi | 07:03 |
| stevebaker | #topic rc1 blueprint status | 07:03 |
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| stevebaker | #link https://launchpad.net/heat/+milestone/liberty-rc1 | 07:04 |
| stevebaker | shardy: can you give us an updated on nested-validation? | 07:04 |
| shardy | stevebaker: I posted a revised approach to template-validate yesterday, because jdob ran into issues reworking the existing logic | 07:04 |
| shardy | I made good progress and I hope to post the final recursive part of it today | 07:04 |
| asalkeld | do we have the link to summit session ideas? | 07:04 |
| shardy | so, if we're aiming for rc1 next monday it could still make it | 07:05 |
| stevebaker | asalkeld: not yet | 07:05 |
| skraynev | asalkeld: not yet. | 07:05 |
| asalkeld | lol | 07:05 |
| asalkeld | ok | 07:05 |
| shardy | stevebaker: my approach should have the side-effect of fixing bug #1467573 too | 07:05 |
| openstack | bug 1467573 in heat "template-validate doesn't validate the same as stack-create" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1467573 - Assigned to Steven Hardy (shardy) | 07:05 |
| stevebaker | shardy: ok, lets see how we go for the rest of the week. Sounds like a reasonable chance it will be ready | 07:06 |
| shardy | stevebaker: +1, thanks! | 07:06 |
| ramishra | hi all | 07:06 |
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| stevebaker | skraynev: can you give an update on rich-network-prop? | 07:06 |
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| stevebaker | shardy: btw I reworked this heatclient patch and it is approved https://review.openstack.org/#/c/222325/ | 07:07 |
| shardy | stevebaker: thanks! | 07:07 |
| skraynev | stevebaker: I updated patch and Tripleo job looks green on this new patch | 07:07 |
| skraynev | it's first in series | 07:08 |
| stevebaker | there will be a heatclient release as soon as https://review.openstack.org/#/c/222325/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/205755/ land, and this will be the fork for stable/liberty branch | 07:08 |
| KanagarajM__ | shardy, stevebaker: temlate-validate fails when we use NoneResource, https://review.openstack.org/223528 , it might cross with above bug | 07:08 |
| skraynev | but I need couple days to re-work replace for server (due to additional "external" ports) | 07:08 |
| skraynev | stevebaker: so please review this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/223169/ | 07:09 |
| shardy | KanagarajM__: Yep that should be fixed by the patch I posted yesterday, I think.. | 07:09 |
| shardy | KanagarajM__: thanks, I'll check it out and add it to my functional tests | 07:10 |
| skraynev | Also feedback from TripleO is appreciated | 07:10 |
| stevebaker | skraynev: likely they'll be happy as long as the old behaviour continues | 07:10 |
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| stevebaker | skraynev: it sounds like the important bits will be ready, and anything left over could be an rc bug | 07:11 |
| skraynev | stevebaker: yeah. now we create port only if we have subnet property or port extra_properties ;) | 07:11 |
| shardy | skraynev: thanks, I'll chat with derekh today and one of us can verify all is OK but it's good the check job is green now :) | 07:11 |
| KanagarajM__ | shardy: ok. sure. | 07:11 |
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| stevebaker | #topic rc1 bug status | 07:12 |
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| skraynev | stevebaker: yes | 07:12 |
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| skraynev | shardy: aha. thx. will wait a feedback | 07:12 |
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| stevebaker | I did a big prune, removing a load of bugs from liberty, and tagging some of those as liberty-rc-potential | 07:12 |
| stevebaker | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bugs?field.tag=liberty-rc-potential | 07:13 |
| stevebaker | feel free to tag any bug liberty-rc-potential if you believe it to be a blocker for rc1 | 07:13 |
| stevebaker | the gate is a disaster today, so more is fixed than show up in that list | 07:14 |
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| asalkeld | #link https://goo.gl/igwqqB | 07:14 |
| shardy | stevebaker: anything we need to help through to fix the gate? | 07:14 |
| asalkeld | reviews for above bugs | 07:15 |
| stevebaker | btw the fix I'm suggesting for https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1489548 will require a schema change, which technically requires a FFE | 07:15 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1489548 in heat "max_resources_per_stack causes scaling issues on large stacks" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Steven Hardy (shardy) | 07:15 |
| asalkeld | shardy: https://review.openstack.org/223747 | 07:15 |
| stevebaker | shardy: cross your fingers for this to land https://review.openstack.org/223747 | 07:15 |
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| asalkeld | needs to go in | 07:15 |
| shardy | asalkeld, stevebaker: we could ping infra and get it bumped to the head of the queue if you've not already done that | 07:16 |
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| stevebaker | shardy: its the first heat change at least | 07:16 |
| shardy_ | stevebaker: Ok, cool, will keep an eye on it, thanks | 07:17 |
| stevebaker | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1493906 is High and unassigned | 07:17 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1493906 in heat "heat.tests.engine.test_engine_worker.CheckWorkflowCleanupTest.test_is_cleanup_traversal_raise_update_inprogress gate failure" [High,Confirmed] | 07:17 |
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| stevebaker | is that still happening? I haven't seen it | 07:18 |
| stevebaker | or is it a race? | 07:18 |
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| asalkeld | stevebaker: i have never seen that fail locally | 07:19 |
| stevebaker | ramishra: ah, you raised that one | 07:19 |
| ramishra | stevebaker: yes, its happening but intermintly | 07:19 |
| ramishra | I've seen it locally too | 07:19 |
| skraynev | I have met similar for test_is_cleanup_traversal_raise_update_(replace or something like that) | 07:20 |
| skraynev | it's some strange py34 sporadic errors... | 07:20 |
| stevebaker | any takers to look at that? I could just put it in heat-ongoing, liberty-rc-potential | 07:20 |
| asalkeld | maybe, i'll see if no one has taken it tomorrow | 07:21 |
| stevebaker | ok, I'll leave it in rc1 for now | 07:21 |
| pas-ha | it's hard to debug a thing that does not break for you | 07:21 |
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| stevebaker | indeed | 07:22 |
| stevebaker | #topic Liberty release notes | 07:22 |
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| stevebaker | I've created an empty etherpad here | 07:22 |
| stevebaker | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/heat-liberty-release-notes | 07:22 |
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| stevebaker | if you have a favourite feature then feel free to write something, otherwise I'll start populating with notable blueprints | 07:23 |
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| pas-ha | should everyone fill in big features (s)he implemented? | 07:23 |
| pas-ha | ok | 07:23 |
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| stevebaker | pas-ha: ideally yes, I'll be going through it all too though | 07:23 |
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| stevebaker | Some detailed Upgrade Notes will be needed (new config options, etc) | 07:24 |
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| stevebaker | wha? | 07:25 |
| stevebaker | #topic Liberty release notes | 07:25 |
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| stevebaker | btw they will end up here, but lets iterate on the etherpad for a bit | 07:26 |
| stevebaker | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ReleaseNotes/Liberty | 07:26 |
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| stevebaker | #topic gate for heat-templates seems broken | 07:27 |
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| pas-ha | that's mine | 07:27 |
| stevebaker | pas-ha: go | 07:27 |
| pas-ha | due to service based resource exposure the gate is broken | 07:27 |
| stevebaker | oh, yeah | 07:27 |
| pas-ha | we do not install anything besides Heat and keystone there | 07:27 |
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| pas-ha | so validation fails on most of resources | 07:28 |
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| pas-ha | what I suggest is to register some fake Keystone endpoints for all the services - might that be an option? | 07:28 |
| stevebaker | pas-ha: How about we fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1495914 then have an environment which swaps out these resources with None? | 07:29 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1495914 in heat "template-validate fails when resources are swaped with None resource" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Kanagaraj Manickam (kanagaraj-manickam) | 07:29 |
| shardy | stevebaker: +1 that sounds good | 07:29 |
| stevebaker | because mostly we just want syntax validation | 07:30 |
| pas-ha | that sounds good. does None resource supports arbitrary schema? | 07:30 |
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| KanagarajM__ | we may need to swap all the resources in env? | 07:30 |
| pas-ha | KanagarajM__, yes, in the global one | 07:30 |
| shardy | KanagarajM__: the resource registry supports globbing | 07:31 |
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| shardy | pas-ha: it does, but it basically accepts any properties and provides any attribute | 07:31 |
| stevebaker | we could have an env file in heat-templates which is invoked by the validate call, rather than a system global one | 07:31 |
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| KanagarajM__ | pas-ha, shardy : sure. would be nice choice :) | 07:31 |
| shardy | pas-ha: so it's not really testing the resource schema against the templates, only the structural correctness of the template | 07:31 |
| pas-ha | ok, seems we have a plan | 07:32 |
| stevebaker | pas-ha: is the job non-voting for now? | 07:32 |
| pas-ha | voting :( | 07:32 |
| pas-ha | example https://review.openstack.org/#/c/217654/ | 07:33 |
| stevebaker | it may need to be made non-voting while we sort this out | 07:33 |
| stevebaker | oh, look https://review.openstack.org/#/c/217654/5/hot/monasca/autoscale_env.yaml,cm | 07:34 |
| stevebaker | maybe a per-template env like ^ is best | 07:34 |
| stevebaker | to specify the None resources | 07:34 |
| pas-ha | that would be a big commit :) | 07:35 |
| KanagarajM__ | currently the tools could be updated in the template repo, to consider the global env | 07:35 |
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| * stevebaker actually sees how many errors there are | 07:36 | |
| KanagarajM__ | and in global env, we may use globbing, | 07:36 |
| stevebaker | global env ftw | 07:36 |
| stevebaker | OS::* ;) | 07:36 |
| KanagarajM__ | yes | 07:36 |
| stevebaker | #topic Open Discussion | 07:36 |
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| skraynev | stevebaker: AWS:: ? | 07:36 |
| pas-ha | https://github.com/openstack/heat-templates/blob/master/tools/validate-templates#L32 | 07:37 |
| pas-ha | plug it there | 07:37 |
| shardy | skraynev: *::*::* ;) | 07:37 |
| KanagarajM__ | pas-ha: yes | 07:37 |
| skraynev | shardy: lol. exactly! | 07:37 |
| tiantian | shardy, +1 | 07:37 |
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| skraynev | shardy: what about bug with re-authentication ? | 07:38 |
| shardy | skraynev: I'm running out of time for rc1 but I'm still planning to look at it, it may end up having to be a stable backport | 07:39 |
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| shardy | skraynev: If I can get the nested validation stuff done today I'll look at it later this week | 07:40 |
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| * asalkeld having supper ... | 07:40 | |
| shardy | skraynev: you're welcome to pick it up if you have time to do it now | 07:40 |
| shardy | it should be easier now we have the auth plugin stuff landed for trusts that miguelgrinberg posted | 07:40 |
| skraynev | shardy: do you have time for it ? I told with ochuprykov - He may help with it (but he have not experience in this part of code yet ) | 07:40 |
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| skraynev | shardy: I wanted to help with it, but now looks like rich-network chews all my free time :) | 07:41 |
| shardy | skraynev: evidently I don't have time for it, but I'm trying to make some ;) | 07:41 |
| pas-ha | shardy: time for possible stupid questions that is ;) | 07:41 |
| stevebaker | skraynev: and it will be awesome :) | 07:41 |
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| shardy | pas-ha: haha ;) | 07:42 |
| shardy | skraynev: I will try to look at it this week, I just want to get nested-validation working first | 07:42 |
| shardy | skraynev: the quickest fix will be to have a config option which says always use the trust plugin when the stack timeout exceeds the token expiry | 07:43 |
| skraynev | shardy; ok. thank you. I will say ochuprykov to ping you ;) if he meet some blockers. | 07:43 |
| stevebaker | looks like all the heatclient changes have landed, no more features for liberty heatclient | 07:44 |
| skraynev | shardy: aha. got it | 07:44 |
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| skraynev | stevebaker: +1. | 07:44 |
| shardy | skraynev: ideally, we'd do something a bit more clever and switch tokens just before expiry, but that may be harder to get right | 07:44 |
| tiantian | stevebaker, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/220921/ hope to land | 07:45 |
| tiantian | :) | 07:45 |
| shardy | skraynev: anyway, I can chat to ochuprykov about it | 07:45 |
| skraynev | shardy: In mind the most part of approaches look awesome - reality puts us on the ground :) | 07:46 |
| skraynev | shardy: agreed | 07:46 |
| stevebaker | tiantian: its a bug fix, so we can backport it to stable/liberty | 07:47 |
| shardy | stevebaker: how do pypi releases work for multiple client branches? | 07:47 |
| tiantian | stevebaker, ok | 07:47 |
| stevebaker | tiantian: although this stable branch thing is just for gate testing. Downstream are free to distribute later client releases however they choose | 07:47 |
| * shardy still doesn't get the stable client branches thing at all | 07:47 | |
| shardy | aha | 07:48 |
| stevebaker | shardy: its really just a tool to reduce stable gate breakage | 07:48 |
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| shardy | So the gate always works and everyone downstream gets to discover the breakage | 07:48 |
| shardy | awesome ;) | 07:48 |
| pas-ha | I would think on bumping a Y or X in X.Y.Z after stable cut | 07:48 |
| pas-ha | so that stable backports/fixes goes to Z | 07:49 |
| skraynev | shardy: anyway, sorry if I ask you about it persistently... :) my apologize. I just wanted to be sure, that we do not do the same in parallel. | 07:49 |
| stevebaker | pas-ha: yep, only Z changes can go to stable. I increment Y whenever any new feature lands | 07:49 |
| shardy | skraynev: sure, I probably won't get to it until Friday, and I'll ping you/ochuprykov before I start to ensure we don't duplicate effort | 07:50 |
| shardy | skraynev: thanks for your patience! ;) | 07:50 |
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| stevebaker | shall we finish up? | 07:50 |
| pas-ha | +1, nothing from me | 07:51 |
| shardy | +1 | 07:51 |
| skraynev | +1 | 07:51 |
| stevebaker | #endmeeting | 07:51 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 16 07:51:46 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 07:51 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/heat/2015/heat.2015-09-16-07.00.html | 07:51 |
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| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/heat/2015/heat.2015-09-16-07.00.txt | 07:51 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/heat/2015/heat.2015-09-16-07.00.log.html | 07:51 |
| stevebaker | thanks all | 07:51 |
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| KanagarajM__ | bye | 07:52 |
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| lennyb | for all 3rd parties with recent failures in keystone, there is a fix proposal https://review.openstack.org/#/c/223957/ | 08:49 |
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| BobBall | #startmeeting XenAPI | 09:29 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 16 09:29:57 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is BobBall. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 09:29 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:29 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: XenAPI)" | 09:30 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'xenapi' | 09:30 |
| BobBall | johnthetubaguy: ping! | 09:30 |
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| BobBall | Afternoon jianghuaw, huazhihao huanxie | 09:30 |
| jianghuaw | @bob: good morning | 09:30 |
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| huanxie | hello Bob | 09:30 |
| huazhihao | :bobball Good morning. | 09:31 |
| BobBall | Agenda at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/XenAPI | 09:31 |
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| BobBall | So - I don't think there were any actions from the last meeting | 09:31 |
| BobBall | #topic Blueprints and reviews | 09:31 |
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| BobBall | First thing to talk about is the vGPU support - jianghuaw Could you give an update on that? | 09:32 |
| jianghuaw | yes. | 09:32 |
| johnthetubaguy | hey, I am around, sorry, just lurking | 09:32 |
| jianghuaw | the prototype work is in progress. | 09:32 |
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| BobBall | Can we have the gerrit link jianghuaw? | 09:33 |
| BobBall | johnthetubaguy: If you have any feedback on the WIP code, feel free to contribute, but we do intend to submit a spec for M | 09:33 |
| jianghuaw | we are able to populate the vgpu info to the compute-node info and it's able to sue the extra_spec to filter out host which support the specific vGPUs. | 09:34 |
| jianghuaw | yes. the link is: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/223426/ | 09:34 |
| BobBall | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/223426/ | 09:35 |
| johnthetubaguy | BobBall: can't look at that right now, focusing on reviewing all the bug fixes | 09:35 |
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| johnthetubaguy | thats sucks, I know :( | 09:35 |
| BobBall | no worries - look forward to discussing the spec with you | 09:36 |
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| BobBall | So the next step is to prototype the code that connects the vGPU to the instance when spawning, is that right jianghuaw? | 09:36 |
| jianghuaw | exactly | 09:36 |
| BobBall | Great, thanks. | 09:36 |
| BobBall | Next topic - huanxie - could you give an update on the Neutron integration / fixes you've been working on? | 09:37 |
| huanxie | Sure | 09:37 |
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| huanxie | With devstack we can install xenserver + neutron successfully, with ML2 as plugin, OVS driver, VLAN type | 09:38 |
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| BobBall | That needs an new devstack fix, right? Do you have the link for that? | 09:38 |
| huanxie | yes | 09:38 |
| huanxie | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/217651/ | 09:39 |
| BobBall | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/217651/ | 09:39 |
| huanxie | This is devstack script changes | 09:39 |
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| BobBall | (If you prefix things with #link then the bot which logs the meetings will include it as a link in the minutes) | 09:39 |
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| BobBall | Great news - so the next steps we're going to look into for this support are the tempest tests, on the route to setting up a Neutron CI | 09:40 |
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| huanxie | And we also found a problem of netwrap which resides in dom0, we use this to talk to dom0 for OVSDB monitor | 09:40 |
| BobBall | Link to the bug report? | 09:40 |
| huanxie | Yes, currently I can use #link https://github.com/citrix-openstack/qa/blob/master/install-devstack-xen.sh to install Xenserver + Neutron successfully | 09:41 |
| huanxie | Sure, hang on | 09:41 |
| BobBall | huanxie has also written a document detailing her debugging experience on this problem. | 09:41 |
| johnthetubaguy | I am curious hows that going | 09:42 |
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| BobBall | huanxie: Could you add this to https://github.com/citrix-openstack/blogentries so we can review it there and eventually publish to blogs.citrix.com ? | 09:42 |
| johnthetubaguy | are we basically restoring the old method to make this work? | 09:42 |
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| huanxie | BobBall: Sure | 09:42 |
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| BobBall | Yes johnthetubaguy: Daemon mode can't work without major changes to the daemon since it doesn't have the concept of ssh'ing to a remote host to run the command | 09:42 |
| BobBall | The second issue is that that the optimisation to minimize polling by using ovsdb monitoring again cannot work in the current architecture because the command is being run over XenAPI which doesn't support streaming stdout; it will collect stdout and return it from the plugin once the process is complete | 09:43 |
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| johnthetubaguy | true, you would have to have your own deamon that ssh-ed into dom0, which sounds scary | 09:44 |
| BobBall | There are some neutron configuration options that huanxie has found that will mean we can get support working again so we can set up a CI and then work on improving the integration to support daemon mode or the ovsdb monitor commands | 09:44 |
| huanxie | Yes, thanks for Bob's explaination | 09:44 |
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| BobBall | Daemon mode rootwrap is in oslo as well - so it's not even neutron specific, so getting some custom code in there to support the SSH concept will be fun. | 09:45 |
| BobBall | But something we can look at soon I hope :) | 09:45 |
| huanxie | Hi, #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1495423 | 09:46 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1495423 in neutron "Cannot get dom0's ovsdb monitor result" [Undecided,New] | 09:46 |
| BobBall | OK, great. Thanks for the update huanxie | 09:46 |
| johnthetubaguy | BobBall: yup, Nova has just added deamon mode support | 09:47 |
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| johnthetubaguy | sounds like a good plan forward, from where I am standing | 09:47 |
| BobBall | I don't think we need to rootwrap anything from Nova though do we ? | 09:47 |
| BobBall | I mean for XenAPI into dom0 | 09:47 |
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| johnthetubaguy | nope, not that I know of | 09:47 |
| huanxie | For Neutron, there is also daemon mode, and the q-domu agent can use daemon mode | 09:48 |
| BobBall | OK, good. Then it's just Neutron we need to worry about too much for now | 09:48 |
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| huanxie | But q-agt which talks to dom0 cannot use it in our case now | 09:48 |
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| BobBall | Anyway - So huanxie is also going to be looking at verifying Neutron support in a non-devstack environment so we don't just rely on devstack's documentation | 09:49 |
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| huanxie | Yes, Bob | 09:49 |
| BobBall | #topic Bugs & QA | 09:49 |
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| BobBall | huanxie has already mentioned a couple of the recently discovered bugs in Neutron support | 09:49 |
| BobBall | but jianghuaw has also discovered some bugs relating to the next release of XenServer | 09:50 |
| BobBall | We've shifted to a CentOS-7 based release for the alphas that are available from xenserver.org | 09:50 |
| johnthetubaguy | so big ask from me, any release blockers that you can see? | 09:50 |
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| BobBall | No blockers johnthetubaguy. | 09:51 |
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| BobBall | It would be good to get https://review.openstack.org/#/c/213112/ in if we can | 09:51 |
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| BobBall | It's the closest thing to a blocker for us in my mind | 09:51 |
| BobBall | but probably wouldn't be considered a blocker by most in nova core :D | 09:52 |
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| johnthetubaguy | yeah, I should take another peak at that | 09:52 |
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| BobBall | The impact is that more people will be using HVM guests to run their compute going forward (for various reasons) and if they are using older versions of XS they will definitely be hitting the bug that huanxie fixed here | 09:52 |
| johnthetubaguy | I think it was just some issues with the tests | 09:53 |
| BobBall | huanxie: Are all comments addressed on that issue? | 09:53 |
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| huanxie | Bob: yes, I have modified with these comments | 09:55 |
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| johnthetubaguy | huanxie: the only reason I knew to look for that sleep bug is I made the same mistake myself testing similar code loops, a few times! | 09:55 |
| BobBall | OK, great, so I will have another look today and then johnthetubaguy if you can look at it then it'd be great. | 09:55 |
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| BobBall | #topic Open Discussion | 09:55 |
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| BobBall | Time for an update huazhihao! :) | 09:55 |
| BobBall | Could you let us know the status of the Mirantis Fuel plugin development? | 09:56 |
| huazhihao | We are gonna submit the plugin to Mirantis for review this weekend. | 09:57 |
| huazhihao | We are doing some health checks. | 09:57 |
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| BobBall | So we have a fully developed plugin now, and a separate XenCenter plugin to add the host internal management network to VMs in a nice way | 09:58 |
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| BobBall | As well as the health checks, we're just updating some more of the docs, right? | 09:58 |
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| huazhihao | Yes | 09:59 |
| BobBall | Could we have a link to the automated runbook in case anyone wanted to try the early docs that you wrote? | 09:59 |
| BobBall | Of course, there have been some improvements and modifications to the plugins since those docs were written, so use them at your own risk :) | 09:59 |
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| huazhihao | https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dwy0q04KndLUi-HXEr2enfl1EovBvzgc7NmOHCWWuO8/ | 10:00 |
| huazhihao | Thank you for reminding me of that ;) | 10:00 |
| BobBall | Great - thanks for the update! | 10:00 |
| johnthetubaguy | cool stuff | 10:00 |
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| huazhihao | But we find a critical problem. guest instance cannot obtain ip from br100. | 10:00 |
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| johnthetubaguy | you got a link to the repo with the plugin in? | 10:00 |
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| BobBall | huazhihao: Probably just a configuration issue; we will have a look at fixing that | 10:01 |
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| BobBall | #link http://ca.downloads.xensource.com/OpenStack/Plugins/ <-- binaries | 10:01 |
| huazhihao | github.com/citrix-openstack/xenserver-fuel-plugin | 10:01 |
| BobBall | huazhihao's link is the source for the Fuel plugin yes | 10:01 |
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| BobBall | #link https://github.com/citrix-openstack/xencenter-himn-plugin <-- source code for management network XenCenter plugin | 10:01 |
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| huazhihao | github.com/citrix-openstack/xencenter-himn-plugin that is for the xc plugin that adds host internal management network | 10:02 |
| BobBall | Sorry huazhihao - I just beat you to it! :) | 10:02 |
| huazhihao | Haha | 10:02 |
| BobBall | OK - we're running over time, so we'll have to close it there unless there are other urgent items to raise? | 10:02 |
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| huazhihao | That is all from me. | 10:03 |
| BobBall | As a final note, we've all got approval to travel to Tokyo, so we can introduce you to the whole team there johnthetubaguy :) | 10:03 |
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| BobBall | OK great, thanks all :) | 10:03 |
| BobBall | #endmeeting | 10:03 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 16 10:03:45 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 10:03 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/xenapi/2015/xenapi.2015-09-16-09.29.html | 10:03 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/xenapi/2015/xenapi.2015-09-16-09.29.txt | 10:03 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/xenapi/2015/xenapi.2015-09-16-09.29.log.html | 10:03 |
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| johnthetubaguy | BobBall: :) | 10:05 |
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| zhiyuan_ | hi, all | 13:06 |
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| gampel1 | hi | 13:07 |
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| zhiyuan_ | is saggi or zhipeng in the meeting? | 13:10 |
| saggi | here | 13:10 |
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| zhiyuan_ | shall we start or wait zhipeng for a while? | 13:12 |
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| zhiyuan_ | One thing I would like to make sure is that we have a "register site with AZ" phase when creating site, will a site has more than one AZ? | 13:22 |
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| SotK | Anyone here for the StoryBoard meeting? | 15:00 |
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| Zara | I am! | 15:00 |
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| Zara | quelle surprise! | 15:01 |
| SotK | #startmeeting storyboard | 15:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 16 15:01:23 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SotK. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'storyboard' | 15:01 |
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| SotK | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/StoryBoard Agenda | 15:01 |
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| SotK | I don't believe there are any announcements or urgent items, beyond the usual lack of reviews | 15:02 |
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| Zara | no, I'd like to add a quick note that I tried rebasing a couple of old patches earlier | 15:02 |
| Zara | and both failed to pass | 15:02 |
| Zara | but in one the code hasn't changed at all from the earlier version | 15:02 |
| Zara | so I'm concerned there's something strange elsewhere | 15:02 |
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| Zara | other than that, nothing urgent. | 15:03 |
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| SotK | I guess it was some weird npm problem seeing as how different tests failed in what looked like a similar way on each change | 15:04 |
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| Zara | yeah. I'll probably try a recheck in a bit; haven't seen anyone else in infra mention it | 15:04 |
| SotK | recheck is probably a good plan | 15:04 |
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| Zara | cool. | 15:05 |
| SotK | I guess we'll move on to in-progress work | 15:05 |
| SotK | #topic In-Progress Work | 15:05 |
| SotK | #info SotK is still working on worklists and boards | 15:05 |
| SotK | I'm making good progress! I sent patches for the API side of things last week, though I think a few changes to them might still be required. | 15:05 |
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| SotK | The webclient side of things is getting there too, tidying up a bunch of things and putting views for worklists and boards in sensible places. | 15:05 |
| Zara | \o/ | 15:06 |
| SotK | I also sent a patch for markdown descriptions and comments! | 15:06 |
| SotK | #info A patch was also sent implementing the markdown descriptions and comments decision from last week | 15:06 |
| Zara | oh yeah, I couldn't find it but just realised why | 15:06 |
| Zara | (my view was only displaying patches I'd already reviewed or sent...) | 15:06 |
| SotK | aha! | 15:06 |
| SotK | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/222709/ Markdown patch | 15:07 |
| Zara | was going to ask if you'd sent it, but nevermind, haha | 15:07 |
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| Zara | there may be a few more like that, heh | 15:07 |
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| Zara | will look after meeting. | 15:07 |
| SotK | I need to push a fix to it though, after I realised that no-undefined in .eslintrc is different to no-undef | 15:07 |
| Zara | heh, I can wait a bit if you want | 15:07 |
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| Zara | no pressure either wya. | 15:08 |
| Zara | er, way. | 15:08 |
| Zara | I also have good news! | 15:08 |
| * SotK will send the fix after the meeting too | 15:08 | |
| SotK | \o/ | 15:08 |
| Zara | I finally sent the subscriptions patch! | 15:08 |
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| Zara | it's... messy, to say the least. bits are cannibalized from other directives and things atm, and it adds a fair chunk of code to various controllers | 15:08 |
| Zara | I'd eventually like to abstract it. | 15:08 |
| Zara | or reorganise it, at leastt | 15:09 |
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| Zara | in the meantime, will be tidying | 15:09 |
| SotK | I can review it if you'd like, or alternatively I can wait for you to clean it up if you'd prefer? | 15:09 |
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| Zara | there might be some overlap, but I'm fine either way | 15:09 |
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| Zara | if it'll be quicker for you to look at it now then that's fine. | 15:10 |
| Zara | if it's worth waiting for me to sort some aesthetic stuff out, that's also fine, haha | 15:10 |
| SotK | its probably worth waiting I guess | 15:10 |
| Zara | okay, I'll get on it then. | 15:10 |
| SotK | if I learn anything I think will be helpful in my own cleaning up then I'll let you know xD | 15:10 |
| Zara | heh | 15:11 |
| Zara | thanks | 15:11 |
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| SotK | #info Zara has sent a patch to speed up subscriptions and is working on tidying up its contents | 15:12 |
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| SotK | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/223562/ Subscriptions patch | 15:12 |
| SotK | Is there any other in-progress work? | 15:12 |
| Zara | just misc rebasing and reviewing for me, I think | 15:13 |
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| Zara | may move onto tags after this, but not just yet. | 15:13 |
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| SotK | OK then, there are no discussion topics on the agenda so on to open discussion | 15:13 |
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| SotK | #topic Open Discussion | 15:13 |
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| Zara | anything you wanna discuss? | 15:14 |
| SotK | I don't think so, you? | 15:15 |
| Zara | not really. well, I'm going to Tokyo! \o/ | 15:15 |
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| Zara | I'm not sure how much discussion that warrants but hey. | 15:15 |
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| SotK | excellent! | 15:16 |
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| * SotK isn't | 15:16 | |
| * Zara will try to learn juggling tricks beforehand | 15:16 | |
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| Zara | that way we can attract people to storyboard with promises of circus skills | 15:16 |
| Zara | then just give them patches to review | 15:16 |
| Zara | flawless plan. | 15:17 |
| Zara | also, :(. | 15:17 |
| SotK | :D | 15:17 |
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| Zara | anyway, nothing of substance to discuss. :) | 15:18 |
| SotK | In that case I guess we can end the meeting... | 15:18 |
| SotK | .. | 15:18 |
| SotK | . | 15:18 |
| SotK | #endmeeting | 15:18 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 16 15:18:39 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:18 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/2015/storyboard.2015-09-16-15.01.html | 15:18 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/2015/storyboard.2015-09-16-15.01.txt | 15:18 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/2015/storyboard.2015-09-16-15.01.log.html | 15:18 |
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| Zara | what a wonderful meeting! | 15:19 |
| Zara | thanks | 15:19 |
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| thingee | #startmeeting cinder | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 16 16:00:02 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is thingee. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: cinder)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'cinder' | 16:00 |
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| thingee | hello all! | 16:00 |
| eharney | hi | 16:00 |
| dulek | Hi! | 16:00 |
| e0ne | hi | 16:00 |
| hemna | doink | 16:00 |
| cFouts | hi | 16:00 |
| kmartin | o/ | 16:00 |
| mriedem | o/ | 16:00 |
| jgregor | Hello! | 16:00 |
| scottda | hi | 16:00 |
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| jseiler_ | hi | 16:00 |
| xyang | hi | 16:00 |
| thingee | #topic announcements | 16:00 |
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| rhedlind | hi | 16:00 |
| thingee | #info we have blockers for liberty release | 16:00 |
| diablo_rojo | hello :) | 16:00 |
| thingee | #link https://launchpad.net/cinder/+milestone/liberty-rc1 | 16:00 |
| hodos|2 | hi | 16:00 |
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| thingee | Lets get these pushed through today | 16:01 |
| DuncanT | Hi | 16:01 |
| tbarron | hi | 16:01 |
| smcginnis | o/ | 16:01 |
| thingee | if there's anything missing from that list, please ping me in #openstack-cinder to discuss | 16:01 |
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| thingee | otherwise I'll give the OK | 16:01 |
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| hemna | I'll work with e0ne on the cinder-all binary. I was helping him test that last night | 16:01 |
| e0ne | hemna: thanks | 16:01 |
| thingee | hemna: I believe that patch has one +2 now | 16:02 |
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| erlon | hey! | 16:02 |
| xyang | thingee: when are you planning to cut RC1 | 16:02 |
| jungleboyj | Happy Wednesday! | 16:02 |
| thingee | xyang: asap | 16:02 |
| dulek | thingee: Is this worth to get into RC1 - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/223602/ ? | 16:02 |
| hemna | thingee, ok. I had seen problems with it last night before I left. I'll follow up. | 16:02 |
| thingee | dulek: taking note, will discuss after meeting in #openstack-cinder | 16:02 |
| thingee | hemna: thanks | 16:02 |
| DuncanT | thingee: the fact that quota-get for a normal user is broken with the default keystone policy is a bug that should be on that list IMO | 16:03 |
| dulek | thingee: Got it. | 16:03 |
| thingee | DuncanT: ack, can you ping me on #openstack-cinder with the bug link, please? | 16:03 |
| e0ne | thingee: I've verified dulek's patch with devstack | 16:03 |
| DuncanT | Aye | 16:03 |
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| e0ne | DuncanT: +1. do we have filed bug? | 16:04 |
| thingee | #info Cinder PTL nominations/elections happening | 16:04 |
| thingee | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/PTL_Elections_September_2015 | 16:04 |
| thingee | just a reminder to folks that nominations are being accepted now | 16:04 |
| thingee | we have smcginnis stepping up for the position in mitaka! | 16:04 |
| DuncanT | So far Sean and myself have announced candidacy | 16:04 |
| e0ne | DuncanT: https://launchpad.net/bugs/1491495 | 16:04 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1491495 in Cinder "cinderclient.quotas.get() fails against Cinder service in a Devstack" [Undecided,Fix committed] - Assigned to Ivan Kolodyazhny (e0ne) | 16:04 |
| thingee | oh and DuncanT ! | 16:04 |
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| asselin | o/ | 16:05 |
| e0ne | I created a patch with nomination too | 16:05 |
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| thingee | any other announcements? | 16:05 |
| smcginnis | DuncanT: Awesome! | 16:05 |
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| smcginnis | e0ne: Cool! | 16:05 |
| hemna | I'm going to post mine here in a bit. | 16:06 |
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| thingee | looks like we got a healthy election coming | 16:06 |
| thingee | alright lets get started | 16:06 |
| jungleboyj | Wow! | 16:06 |
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| xyang | Nice! I'm going to throw a dice to decide:) | 16:06 |
| thingee | agenda for today: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CinderMeetings#Next_meeting | 16:07 |
| ShamailT | :) | 16:07 |
| jungleboyj | xyang: :-) | 16:07 |
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| thingee | going to switch the order | 16:07 |
| thingee | #topic Nova summit session for Cinder issues | 16:07 |
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| thingee | scottda: hi | 16:07 |
| scottda | hi | 16:07 |
| thingee | #info Etherpad for session | 16:07 |
| thingee | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/NovaCinderMitakaSession | 16:07 |
| scottda | I wanted to setup a session with Nova to discuss Cinder issues | 16:07 |
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| scottda | I figured we could put all things Cinder <-> Nova in one session. | 16:08 |
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| hemna | scottda, that's a lot :) | 16:08 |
| scottda | multi-attach, brick (rootwrap), api changes, bugs | 16:08 |
| scottda | well, it might be too much | 16:08 |
| mriedem | 40 minutes | 16:08 |
| scottda | And I haven't submitted the request for a Nova session yet. | 16:08 |
| mriedem | scotttda: the rootwrap thing might be covered in a session with oslo | 16:08 |
| scottda | mriedem: roger that | 16:09 |
| mriedem | i posted for nova to do the rootwrap thing already | 16:09 |
| hemna | mriedem, yah that's going to require oslo participation, so we should just do that there. | 16:09 |
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| mriedem | so probably focus on features/api changes in a nova session | 16:09 |
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| scottda | so, if folks think differently, I could avoid doing a 0ne-session-for-all, but johnthetubaguy like that idea. It's a matter of topic scope | 16:09 |
| hemna | e0ne, if cinder-baremetal is going to use os-brick, then it's going to need rootwrap fun as well. | 16:09 |
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| scottda | does multi-attach need it's own session? | 16:10 |
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| mriedem | keep in mind the amount of bikeshedding that will happen in a design session | 16:10 |
| e0ne | hemna: you're right | 16:10 |
| hemna | mriedem, +1 | 16:10 |
| mriedem | so make sure this is focused | 16:10 |
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| mriedem | with homework assigned before hand | 16:10 |
| hemna | mriedem, scottda should we do the multi-attach session in nova ? | 16:10 |
| scottda | perhaps a separate session just for the bikeshedding? | 16:10 |
| hemna | :) | 16:10 |
| johnthetubaguy | so the sessions with lots of topic do tend to fail | 16:10 |
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| scottda | hemna: This is about a NOva session, not a cinder session. | 16:11 |
| jungleboyj | scottda: ++ | 16:11 |
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| hemna | johnthetubaguy, +1 | 16:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | now if there is a full story around improving integration that could be reviewed, maybe thats a good single session, at least thats where I was thinking | 16:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | I was hoping once we have the list of things we want to talk about, it should become much clearer about what the best way forward is | 16:12 |
| scottda | ok, so maybe a single session about improving integration and any API changes being proposed.... | 16:12 |
| scottda | johnthetubaguy: fair enough. | 16:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | I suspect a combination of already agreeing stuff in specs, and a session to cover some loose ends, might be a good approach | 16:12 |
| scottda | so perhaps cinder folk can put any additional ideas on that etherpad, and we can go from there? | 16:12 |
| hemna | scottda, url | 16:13 |
| mriedem | yeah, provide any and all education/background up front | 16:13 |
| scottda | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/NovaCinderMitakaSession | 16:13 |
| mriedem | otherwise you're going to be explaining the cinder use cases to the nova people for half the session | 16:13 |
| johnthetubaguy | I am good with that, a Nova-cinder topics, and we can work out what needs doing to make that work | 16:13 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: +1 | 16:13 |
| thingee | scottda: Initially when this was discussed at the Cinder midcycle sprint, we wanted to have our API defined properly so others can consume it properly. Maybe appropriate for this session. | 16:13 |
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| scottda | thingee: yes, including a spec for that. | 16:13 |
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| scottda | OK, if you are interested, add to that etherpad and let me know. | 16:14 |
| scottda | johnthetubaguy: What's the time frame for requesting a NOva session? | 16:14 |
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| johnthetubaguy | yeah, discussing spec disagreements tends to be more productive, focused bikeshedding, a shed for only one bike (waffle waffle) | 16:15 |
| johnthetubaguy | scottda: we don't have one right now | 16:15 |
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| johnthetubaguy | scottda: maybe point to your etherpad, and submit one now? | 16:15 |
| scottda | ok. I'll do that today. | 16:15 |
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| thingee | #action scottda to propose nova session with etherpad | 16:15 |
| scottda | I think that's it for me | 16:15 |
| johnthetubaguy | awesome, that will stop me forgetting about it at the last moment | 16:15 |
| thingee | #action scottda to follow up with spec on proper Cinder API usage | 16:16 |
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| thingee | scottda: got a lot to do | 16:16 |
| scottda | yeah, I think hemna will also help with the api spec | 16:16 |
| * scottda volunteers hemna | 16:16 | |
| jungleboyj | :-) | 16:16 |
| thingee | scottda: thanks, anything else? | 16:16 |
| scottda | nope. Thanks | 16:17 |
| hemna | :) | 16:17 |
| thingee | #topic Design summit topics | 16:17 |
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| thingee | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-mitaka-summit-topics | 16:17 |
| hemna | scottda, I have it on my plate to rework the volume manager locks -> ING checks spec | 16:17 |
| thingee | Not much notice to get proposals added here, but we can take another look next week | 16:17 |
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| scottda | hemna: OK, I guess this is separate. We'll talk.... | 16:17 |
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| dulek | thingee: +1, it seems people need time to come up with the topics. | 16:18 |
| dulek | thingee: Last time it was harder to get this scheduled. | 16:18 |
| * thingee is noticing people adding things now :) | 16:18 | |
| e0ne | thingee: +1 | 16:18 |
| thingee | patrickeast: hi | 16:19 |
| patrickeast | hey | 16:19 |
| thingee | Expermental/api features I think is a great topic | 16:19 |
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| thingee | for the user input, what were you interested in | 16:19 |
| dulek | When I was looking in the morning all the sessions proposed for Friday would fit to the two other categories. I thought we will go for a beer at Friday then. ;) | 16:19 |
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| patrickeast | mostly looking for feedback on if we did it, would operators want them | 16:20 |
| patrickeast | or maybe they prefer not to be exposed at all to that sort of thing | 16:20 |
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| patrickeast | and if we do implement them, maybe they have suggestions/requirements for the how | 16:20 |
| jgriffith | patrickeast: we sould have a summit session, I have a proposal for a "different" model | 16:20 |
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| jgriffith | patrickeast: using a contrib directory | 16:20 |
| jungleboyj | jgriffith: The next ViPR !?! | 16:20 |
| jgriffith | jungleboyj: :) | 16:21 |
| thingee | o_o | 16:21 |
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| xyang | :) | 16:21 |
| thingee | to both of those things | 16:21 |
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| jungleboyj | jgriffith: What has come over you man!?! | 16:21 |
| jungleboyj | ;-) | 16:21 |
| thingee | contrib/vipr.py solved | 16:21 |
| xyang | manila just implemented experimental API. we can take a look of that | 16:21 |
| tbarron | xyang: +1 | 16:22 |
| * thingee takes note | 16:22 | |
| thingee | patrickeast: I have took notes on things mentioned. would be good to research manila and jgriffith's different approach | 16:22 |
| jungleboyj | thingee: +1 Sounds like experimental API is working into. | 16:23 |
| patrickeast | yea i'll take a look | 16:23 |
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| scottda | I've already linked manila's patch in the etherpad | 16:23 |
| thingee | patrickeast: please post an etherpad on your findings and link to your topic | 16:23 |
| tbarron | manila experimental is built on microversions | 16:23 |
| xyang | need micro versions too | 16:23 |
| patrickeast | thingee: will do | 16:23 |
| xyang | tbarron: +1 | 16:23 |
| scottda | I'm working on microversions ATM | 16:23 |
| thingee | #action patrickeast to make etherpad on expermental API research | 16:23 |
| xyang | scottda: I saw you have a spec | 16:24 |
| tbarron | scottda: great | 16:24 |
| thingee | not sure if we need micro versions in fishbowl | 16:24 |
| scottda | xyang: Yes, and I'm porting code from Manila this morning | 16:24 |
| thingee | I'd recommend working session | 16:24 |
| thingee | scottda: ^ | 16:24 |
| xyang | scottda: nice | 16:24 |
| scottda | ok | 16:24 |
| smcginnis | +1 | 16:24 |
| xyang | scottda: then you will get experimental too | 16:24 |
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| jungleboyj | scottda: Rocks! | 16:24 |
| scottda | Well, I didn't port the experimental bits. | 16:25 |
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| scottda | I thought that should wait | 16:25 |
| thingee | I'm not sure how we solve the dependency problem of patrickeast's fishbowl happening first then working session on micro versions | 16:25 |
| hemna | scottda, awesome | 16:25 |
| xyang | thingee: they should be one session | 16:25 |
| thingee | xyang: good idea | 16:25 |
| xyang | especially if you are using experimental from manila that needs microversions | 16:26 |
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| thingee | #info Proposal Availability Zones in Cinder | 16:26 |
| thingee | dulek: DuncanT hi | 16:27 |
| dulek | hi | 16:27 |
| DuncanT | Hi | 16:27 |
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| thingee | I definitely think this is good for fishbowl | 16:27 |
| thingee | for getting user feedback | 16:27 |
| thingee | operator rather | 16:27 |
| tbarron | ++ | 16:27 |
| dulek | So basically we were talking about that multiple times on IRC, always the conclusion was - what do operators expect from Cinder. | 16:27 |
| jgriffith | thingee: +1 | 16:27 |
| DuncanT | So this has come up on the mailing list recently, and of the two modes we defacto supported, one is currently broken (though the bug is a blocker). I've pinged a few operators | 16:27 |
| dulek | We don't know that, let's gather feedback. | 16:27 |
| e0ne | thingee: can we do it after operators session? | 16:28 |
| jungleboyj | thingee: ++ | 16:28 |
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| DuncanT | I've three replies so far, all saying the same thing, plus the HP answers | 16:28 |
| DuncanT | I'll write them up soon | 16:28 |
| ShamailT | thingee: is the cinder team thinking about possibly getting a session at the ops track to get feedback or is this cinder design summit fishbowl session? | 16:28 |
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| DuncanT | That should give us a starting point for discussion | 16:28 |
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| thingee | e0ne: might be difficult to schedule this around ops sessions. Fishbowl will be taking place tuesday and ops happens tuesday-wednesday | 16:28 |
| ShamailT | If there is a list of questions that need feedback, I'll be glad to pass them to the Product WG too. | 16:29 |
| thingee | ShamailT: we've done it in the past and it was a flop ... although with discussions with the foundation, might've been a schedule issue | 16:29 |
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| hemna | that's a bummer they are done on the same days. It would be nice if the ops stuff happened first, so we could bring some of the feedback into the fishbowl and sprint sessions. | 16:29 |
| jgriffith | thingee: IIRC we were the only ones there :( | 16:29 |
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| mriedem | if cinder does AZ's, don't repeat the issues that nova has had | 16:29 |
| thingee | jgriffith: yup | 16:29 |
| ShamailT | thingee: gotcha | 16:29 |
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| hemna | we tried in Vancouver and almost no one showed :( | 16:30 |
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| dulek | mriedem: ? | 16:30 |
| thingee | dulek, DuncanT would appreciate an etherpad with what Nova has done ... maybe connect with mriedem | 16:30 |
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| jungleboyj | hemna: That was a bummer. | 16:30 |
| mriedem | dulek: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/223802/ | 16:30 |
| scottda | Yeah, Vancouver ops sync up was a dissapointing turn out | 16:30 |
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| DuncanT | mriedem: Cinder already does AZs, with two different configs 'supported' | 16:30 |
| mriedem | dulek: speak with bauzas in the nova channel | 16:30 |
| mriedem | we've just had some really gross bugs with AZs | 16:30 |
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| dulek | thingee: I've got the problem described in the spec linked in description, getting the info into the etherpad isn't a problem. | 16:31 |
| mriedem | ultimately user error, but really not good usability | 16:31 |
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| mriedem | scottda: nova ops sessions at summit are also very sparse, it's mostly nova people talking to each other | 16:31 |
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| hemna | :( | 16:31 |
| thingee | #action dulek to post an etherpad link under the topic proposal with previous nova AZ issues in mind | 16:32 |
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| dulek | Okay, that's probably all. | 16:32 |
| thingee | dulek DuncanT thanks | 16:33 |
| thingee | that leaves us two more slots for fishbowl | 16:33 |
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| thingee | #info two more slots available for fishbowl | 16:33 |
| thingee | working session | 16:33 |
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| thingee | cinder<->driver interface | 16:34 |
| thingee | eharney: hi | 16:34 |
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| eharney | hey | 16:34 |
| thingee | glad to see this up and seems appropriate for working session | 16:34 |
| hemna | thingee, +1 | 16:34 |
| eharney | i don't have a lot of specifics on this yet, but based on various chatter over the last cycle, it seems like something that needs some work and definition | 16:34 |
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| thingee | eharney: makes sense to just document the driver api now and have the review or merged doc be included with your session | 16:35 |
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| thingee | don't think things need to wait | 16:35 |
| xyang | hemna: I'll submit a patch to fix the CG interfaces before the summit | 16:35 |
| thingee | if things need to be decided, they don't need to be documented right away | 16:35 |
| eharney | sounds good | 16:36 |
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| thingee | eharney: do you have bandwidth for proposing that to the cinder dev docs? | 16:36 |
| hemna | xyang, :) | 16:36 |
| thingee | before the summit | 16:36 |
| xyang | hemna: :) | 16:36 |
| DuncanT | It would be good to talk about the worts on out interface | 16:36 |
| eharney | thingee: hard to say at this point | 16:36 |
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| hemna | xyang, that would be awesome. we'll need to file bugs against drivers after that lands to get them fixed. I can help with documenting which drivers are doing it because of CG. | 16:36 |
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| thingee | can anyone collaborate with eharney to get a doc patch going? | 16:37 |
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| eharney | part of this is collecting up knowledge on some of the things like drivers that don't use interfaces exactly in the intended way, etc | 16:37 |
| xyang | hemna: sure | 16:37 |
| eharney | and i'm not sure how big the scope of that kind of thing is yet | 16:37 |
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| rhedlind | I can help | 16:38 |
| thingee | #info cinder<->driver interface working session | 16:38 |
| thingee | rhedlind: thanks | 16:38 |
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| thingee | #action rhedlind and eharney to collaborate on a driver api doc for cinder dev docs | 16:39 |
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| thingee | #info proposal for c-vol A/a working session | 16:40 |
| thingee | dulek: hi | 16:40 |
| dulek | hello again | 16:40 |
| thingee | so cross project distributed lock topic should be happening before this, yay | 16:40 |
| dulek | Ah, definitely. | 16:40 |
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| thingee | #info cross project distributed lock topic will happen before this | 16:40 |
| dulek | I think we all know what's this about. | 16:40 |
| dulek | And I don't think there's a clear action plan for Mitaka. | 16:41 |
| dulek | So I would expect that to be the aim of the session. | 16:41 |
| thingee | Based on discussions in the cinder midcycle sprint, I think work can just begin with for -ing state work, no need to discuss things more | 16:41 |
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| hemna | thingee, +1 | 16:41 |
| thingee | it would be great if those patches were ready and linked with the etherpad topic | 16:41 |
| hemna | thingee, do we need a spec for the -ing checking, or a bug ? | 16:42 |
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| hemna | thingee, we have this old one that started talking about it...https://review.openstack.org/#/c/149894 | 16:42 |
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| dulek | Isn't -ing checking changing the behavior of the API and therefore invalidates API contract? | 16:43 |
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| hemna | dulek, yes. I think we need microversioning in place prior | 16:43 |
| hemna | we'll be returning VolumeIsBusy in many places, and nova doesn't really expect that currently. | 16:43 |
| dulek | hemna: Okay! :) | 16:43 |
| thingee | hemna: yeah lets just renew that spec | 16:43 |
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| * scottda types microversioning code faster.... | 16:43 | |
| hemna | thingee, ok I'll post up a new version of that spec and add the deps for microversioning and we can churn on it. | 16:44 |
| dulek | So I would say - let's move that as a backup for the sprint and we'll discuss things there if needed. | 16:44 |
| hemna | scottda, is it passing jenkins yet? | 16:44 |
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| scottda | I've not finished the port, but I should be done later today. | 16:44 |
| thingee | hemna, dulek I need some to spearhead renewing that spec and have our nova liason present this to the nova folks so there are no surprises | 16:44 |
| thingee | someone* | 16:44 |
| hemna | thingee, scottda and I will work on that asap. | 16:45 |
| scottda | Yes, when spec is ready I'll take it to Nova (meeting or IRC ) | 16:45 |
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| dulek | thingee: I see hemna's volunteering, but I can also help to work on the spec. I think geguileo will be also interested. | 16:45 |
| thingee | #action hemna to renew spec on return VolumeIsBusy on ing states | 16:45 |
| thingee | #action scottda will present spec to Nova meeting | 16:46 |
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| thingee | dulek: I'm sure hemna will be happy to delegate since he's a busy guy and all | 16:46 |
| e0ne | :) | 16:46 |
| dulek | hemna: Just tell me what to do if you need. ;) | 16:46 |
| dulek | Okay, so I'm moving that to the sprint, right? | 16:47 |
| thingee | #info proposal for continuing abc work working session | 16:47 |
| thingee | jgriffith: hi | 16:47 |
| jgriffith | thingee: hola | 16:47 |
| thingee | I agree this is a good working session topic. | 16:47 |
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| jgriffith | thingee: which one :) I added two :) | 16:47 |
| jungleboyj | thingee ++ | 16:47 |
| jgriffith | thingee: OHH | 16:48 |
| jgriffith | never mind :) | 16:48 |
| jgriffith | my bad | 16:48 |
| thingee | jgriffith: one at a time :D | 16:48 |
| e0ne | jgriffith: all of them:) | 16:48 |
| hemna | dulek, ok I'll post up a new patchset on that review and we can all go at it. | 16:48 |
| jgriffith | thingee: got ya... sorry | 16:48 |
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| eharney | i'll continue to be involved in the abc work, seems like a good session | 16:48 |
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| thingee | jgriffith: we should probably take a different approach from the cinder midcycle sprint to make headway | 16:49 |
| jgriffith | eharney: I'd like to run some ideas / POC's by you in the coming weeks if you're intrested | 16:49 |
| eharney | jgriffith: for sure | 16:49 |
| jgriffith | thingee: agreed | 16:49 |
| jgriffith | thingee: I'll have POC's, if nobody likes them we can swap something else into the slot :) | 16:49 |
| jgriffith | thingee: and I will not raise it again afte r this :) | 16:50 |
| thingee | #action jgriffith to propose more POC's | 16:50 |
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| thingee | jgriffith: you have already done a poc :P ... but always welcomed | 16:50 |
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| thingee | #action eharney and jgriffith will have discussion on pocs in the coming weeks | 16:50 |
| thingee | eharney jgriffith We'll still check back next week on progress if that's fine ^ | 16:51 |
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| eharney | sure | 16:51 |
| eharney | note that there are still some pending patches cleaning up the current state of abc things out there, too | 16:51 |
| thingee | ok enough time for one more working session | 16:51 |
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| thingee | #info Proposal for why fight it, cinder could should be the next vipr | 16:52 |
| thingee | jgriffith: hi again | 16:52 |
| jgriffith | thingee: :) | 16:52 |
| thingee | maybe appropriate for fishbowl? | 16:52 |
| hemna | lol | 16:52 |
| xyang | :) | 16:52 |
| hemna | jgriffith, are you feeling ok today? :P | 16:52 |
| jungleboyj | hemna: ++ | 16:52 |
| jgriffith | thingee: so honestly I don't know/care necessarily where they land | 16:52 |
| tbarron | :) | 16:53 |
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| * thingee doesn't care either... it's the next ptl's problem j/k | 16:53 | |
| patrickeast | lol | 16:53 |
| hemna | hehe | 16:53 |
| eharney | i'm not sure i really see the whole picture for this one, but part of my driver interface proposal may be asking some related questions from a different direction | 16:53 |
| hemna | eharney, yah seems like it might be related | 16:53 |
| jgriffith | hemna: jungleboyj :) So maybe a better title, but the point being there's no reason we souldn't be offering the same sort of functionality to make those things osbolete | 16:53 |
| jgriffith | if we're not already | 16:53 |
| hemna | jgriffith, +1 | 16:54 |
| jgriffith | eharney: could be for sure | 16:54 |
| kmartin | And the PTL nominations just went from five down to one | 16:54 |
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| jgriffith | eharney: I'm fine with covering it ad-hoc in other discussions | 16:54 |
| jungleboyj | jgriffith: I think it is actually an important discussion. | 16:54 |
| hemna | kmartin, lol | 16:54 |
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| jgriffith | kmartin: huh? | 16:54 |
| hemna | jgriffith, </sarcasm> | 16:54 |
| thingee | jgriffith: I think he was replying to my remark of me making the next ptl's job harder | 16:54 |
| jgriffith | hemna: oh... :) | 16:54 |
| jgriffith | Ahhhh!!! | 16:55 |
| jgriffith | got it! | 16:55 |
| jgriffith | sorry | 16:55 |
| kmartin | :) | 16:55 |
| jungleboyj | kmartin: You and your sarcasm. ;-) | 16:55 |
| jungleboyj | 5 minute warning, BTW. | 16:55 |
| jgriffith | jungleboyj: I agree... I don't know if it needs to be its own session or not, but I'll let others decide based on available time | 16:55 |
| jgriffith | but I certainly plan on discussing it | 16:55 |
| jgriffith | even if I hijack somebody elses talk :) | 16:56 |
| jgriffith | just kidding | 16:56 |
| jungleboyj | jgriffith: I think that is great. It has a lot to do with keeping Cinder relevant. | 16:56 |
| thingee | jgriffith: can you work with eharney and decide next week if it can be merged in with the driver interface session | 16:56 |
| jgriffith | thingee: certainly | 16:56 |
| jgriffith | thingee: I can also fold it into one of my other proposals.. like "future of cinder" | 16:56 |
| jgriffith | it fits there as well and has some overlap IMO | 16:56 |
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| jungleboyj | The future is bright man! | 16:57 |
| thingee | #action jgriffith and eharney to discuss if the cinder should be the next vipr session should be folded in the cinder<->driver api session | 16:57 |
| thingee | jgriffith: If it's about what I think we've discussed in the past, that would be a great discussion. | 16:57 |
| thingee | jgriffith: might need more planning of making sure key people are there | 16:57 |
| e0ne | jgriffith: did you see DuncanT's coment in the etherpad? | 16:58 |
| jgriffith | thingee: I think it is, yes | 16:58 |
| thingee | jgriffith: excellent | 16:58 |
| thingee | #topic open discussion | 16:58 |
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| thingee | 2 mins left | 16:58 |
| thingee | we'll return back to summit topics next week | 16:58 |
| thingee | this was good though | 16:58 |
| jungleboyj | Good stuff. | 16:58 |
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| jungleboyj | So, how much longer do we have to approve and merge bug fixes? | 16:59 |
| eharney | can someone add to the summit topics etherpad how long these sessions are? | 16:59 |
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| thingee | jungleboyj: at some point this week I'll make a cut. Ideally I'll give the word for tomorrow | 16:59 |
| thingee | I also removed some stuff from rc-1... | 17:00 |
| thingee | #endmeeting | 17:00 |
| jungleboyj | thingee: So, no more bug fixes after that? | 17:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 16 17:00:05 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2015/cinder.2015-09-16-16.00.html | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2015/cinder.2015-09-16-16.00.txt | 17:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2015/cinder.2015-09-16-16.00.log.html | 17:00 |
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| thingee | jungleboyj: that's right. if something is important block, ping me the bug link on #openstack-cinder | 17:00 |
| thingee | thanks everyone | 17:00 |
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| jungleboyj | thingee: Thanks! | 17:00 |
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| jgriffith | thingee: thanks! | 17:00 |
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| torgomatic | is there a Swift meeting this week? | 21:05 |
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| hurricanerix | torgomatic: I was wondering the same thing. | 21:07 |
| torgomatic | hurricanerix: heh, apparently not, then, since it's just us two standing around wondering :) | 21:07 |
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| hurricanerix | lol yeah | 21:09 |
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